Exposing Islam & Reaching Muslims: Session 2 of 3 (Tony Gurule)

0:00As you have seen, as you see on this particular slide here, Pastor Ray did a great job as far as saying, okay, like here's the three sessions. Let's have this well-rounded teaching. So we've moved on from what Islam teaches, what Muslims should believe if they're good, Muslims quote-unquote, and if they know Islam according to Muhammad. So now we have Islam in America, Sharia versus freedom. I want to though now go to Amjam Chaudhry in London. You have said that you think there should be Islamic domination. Why shouldn't people be afraid of that? Well, let me just say that Islam has a solution for all of the problems that mankind faces. If you want to live at peace with Muslims, we are quite willing to live at peace with you. But let us remember that history did not begin on 9-11. Before 9-11, the Americans, the American government bombed Sudan and Afghanistan. They were supporting the Pirates State of Israel. So 9-11 was a reaction. You know, I think that we need to get away from the stereotyping.

1:00And this idea that you have moderate Muslims and you have radical Muslims is complete nonsense. A Muslim is the one who submits to the command of the creator. If he submits, he is a practicing Muslim. If he is not, then he should be practicing. I have to disagree with him. Because Islam is a religion of pluralism that embraces all religions and it also embraces different interpretations. This is why we have so many schools of thought. What Anjum is talking about is an exclusivist view of Islam, which is my way or the highway. And my interpretation is only interpretation. You know, it's very easy for people to justify the fact that they're not practicing. I mean, this lady in your studio, she should be covering with the Khmer in Jilbab. She's obviously not practicing. So many people who are justifying, there are many people who are justifying the inability to practice the Sharia to say, well, I have a different form of religion. You know, people want to claim that the vegetarians and they're eating big beef burgers. You know, you cannot be a non-practicing vegetarian. Therefore, similarly, if you're a Muslim, you submit to the Sharia. He's telling the truth. You see, Reverend Graham says you're telling the truth.

2:03So do you agree with Reverend Graham and our panelists on this side that Americans should fear Islam? We do believe as Muslims, the East and the West would one day be governed by the Sharia. Indeed, we believe that one day, the flag of Islam will fly over the White House. Indeed, there's even a narration of the prophet where he said that they have just mononokam and said a group of biomew, conquered the White House. Okay. So that's Anjum Shoudari, a British Islamist and political activist. He was a spokesman for Islam for UK, and he and Omar Bakr-i-Mahamed co-founded in his Lomest Organization, known as Al-Mahazirun, which has many aliases and offshoots. Now, if you wonder why you have to take your shoes off at the airport nowadays, or you're only allowed to take a week's worth of liquid on a month-long trip, it's because of the actions of some of Anjum's disciples. They carried out the London Bridge attack, the seven seven bombings, and the murder of Lee Rigby, while others fought for ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and the Taliban abroad. It's been said that a quarter of all individuals

3:05of Islam inspired terrorism and terrorism-related offenses in the UK since 1999 had direct links with Al-Mahazirun, or its aliases. So Anjum was sentenced to life in prison in 2025, and this British Muslim says Anjum does not represent me, and that's understandable, because as we talked about in the last session, there are many nominal Muslims in the world, there are moderate Muslims. But the question is, does Anjum represent Islam, according to Mohammed? And we already saw that map of the spread of Islam from 622 to 750 under Mohammed, the first four caliphs and the Umayyad caliphs as well. And it's been said that it is preferable not to begin hostilities with the enemy before having invited the latter to embrace the religion of the law, except where the enemy attacks first. They have the alternative of either converting to Islam, or paying the poll tax,

4:05short of which war will be declared against them. So as Islam spread, and you see these maps of Islam spreading throughout that part of the world, there were options for non-Muslims. If you were a non-Muslim and not a Jew or a Christian, it was just converter die, become Muslim or basically fight, and then obviously you're gonna die fighting. But it was the third choice for the people of the book. Again, people of the book is Jews and Christians. They had a third choice to become a demi and pay the Jizya. Now, one of the books that we have back there is by Dr. Mark Dury called the third choice, Islam, demitude, and freedom. So this is a scholar from Australia. He has a PhD in Islamic studies, a PhD in linguistics, and this book is all about the history of the third choice for Jews and Christians living under Islam. I believe only have maybe five copies or so back there,

5:06but that's one of our resources. And demitude is exactly that. That's the choice that Jews and Christians get because they're people of the book, quote unquote, which sounds like a honorable title, which I guess it is insofar as they're given a choice other than converter die, but it's not like Jews and Christians are highly esteemed or anything like that. In his book, The Caliphs and their non-Muslim subjects, it was written that the demi had to be made to feel that he is an inferior person when he pays, is not to be treated with honor. Under the rule of the Caliphs, those who did not confess the Muslim faith were under certain restrictions, both in public and private life. This was the price they paid for the privilege of living under Muslim government. And the restrictions were relating to conversion, marriage, worship and practice of faith, opposition to Muslims, critiquing Islam, exercise of authority, housing and public appearance, and status and behavior. A demi had to agree to vulnerability and legal disability,

6:07render assistance to Muslims, and render loyalty to Muslims. And of course, who who breaks these conditions may be slain in his women and children made slaves. Now, this is if Muslims want to go by the book and they want to go by the teachings of Muhammad, and if they're looking at those verses and Islamic law that talk about demitude and making Jews and Christians pay that poll tax, other Muslims are just aggressive and just slaughter Jews and Christians. As we see here, human rights activists Islamists murdered 70,000 Christians in Nigeria over the last 20 years. Now, you may be thinking, oh yeah, I just saw this in the news last week. This news story is from 2019. So this is not including the murder of Christians in Nigeria, the last seven years, which is continuing. Now, why does this happen in general? Again, we look at the Hadith, the things that Muhammad said, did and approved of,

7:09volume four, book 52, number 220. Muhammad said, I've been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings. And I've been made victorious with terror. So if the perfect man and perfect Muslim was victorious through terror, why should we be surprised that we see devout Muslims involved in terrorist activities today? Because he was the perfect man in the perfect Muslim who Muslims strive to emulate if they're a good Muslim, quote unquote. And knowing this goal and these facts that are found in Islamic history, Islamic sources, and so on, we need to know this, especially with the Islamists, the sneaky slighers who know the political aspects of Islam in addition to the religious aspects and are trying to work for the Islamization of the West and these common terms that are used in the West and they're used by Islamists as well. And these terms are peace, justice, freedom,

8:09and human rights. What's one of the reasons why Islam has gotten so far in the West? Because they like peace, they like justice, they're all about freedom and human rights, but the thing is that we're using different dictionaries. Because in the West, peace is a state of tranquility. How about for an Islamist or again a devout Muslim? No, that's all the word saying this is just for Muslims. It's just for Muslims. Not allowed to... Jews are not allowed to pray up here. They pray in their church. They can pray in their church, not here. Yeah. Okay, what happened to peace and tolerance though? Peace, nothing is religion. Peace, nothing is religion. Islam is a religion of peace, isn't it? Yes, if you know what they mean by peace. Because peace in Islam is Asylum Tostlem, which means submit and you will have peace. In other words, peace isn't freedom,

9:11it's lack of opposition. Islam being a religion of peace means that when the whole world's under Islamic law, then they'll be peace, quote unquote. So, if a Muslim says, hey, I like peace, Westerners says I like peace. You gotta know, we're using different dictionaries here. Because Islam defines these terms differently. Now, that guy was an imam at the al-Aqsa mosque. Can you even know where that is? Yeah, that's a temple mount in Jerusalem. Saying peace, not in the religion. Guess what? He meant the Western definition of peace. But he'll also say, oh yeah, Islam is a religion of peace because he's defining peace differently. How about justice in the West's fair treatment? In Islam, check out this new story. American woman loses custody battle for daughter in Saudi Arabia. It says, under Saudi law, which is based on Islamic law or Sharia, mothers generally retain day-to-day custody of sons until they turn nine and daughters until they turn seven.

10:12While fathers remain their legal guardians. But Saudi courts prioritize ensuring that children are raised in accordance with Islam. According to court documents, the Judd accepted misbears, ex-husband's arguments that she was unfit to re-Zina because she was a westerner, quote unquote. So when Islam, justice is based on Sharia. And when you know that, it's better spelled just us or just Muslims. How about freedom? We would think of that as liberty. How about when it comes to Islam? And Jim Chattery, who you heard earlier, said contrary to popular misconception, Islam does not mean peace, but rather means submission to the commands of a law alone. And actually, that's what the word Islam means. Submission. Salam is peace. Islam is submission. And a Muslim is one who submits. Therefore, Muslims do not believe in the concept of freedom of expression as their speech and actions

11:15are determined by divine revelation and not based on people's desires. So when Islam is freedom from man-made laws, what you're below a law is law. So when they say, Allahu Akbar, it doesn't mean God is great. Allahu Kabir means God is great. Allahu Akbar means God is great-tour, or great-tist. Greater than what? Greater than the west. Greater than the constitution. Greater than the Bill of Rights. Allahu Akbar is God is great-tour. And it's greater than everything if they're fighting against. So human rights, we think of the universal declaration of human rights. In Islam, they have here Ayatollah Javadi Umali as religion of humanity, Islam guarantees human rights. But in Islam, human rights are again based on Sharia. So Islam's human rights are based on the Cairo declaration of human rights, not the universal declaration.

12:19Check out this new story from 2019. UN poised to launch global ban on all criticism of Islam. OIC urges UN to tackle Islamophobia and declare it a form of racism. OIC is the organization of Islamic cooperation, which is 57 Muslim majority countries or countries that are just part of the OIC, plus the Palestinian Authority. And they're saying it's a form of racism, but have you ever seen white, black, Muslim? No, it's long time to race. It's a religion. So it means no sense whatsoever to call someone racist for critiquing a religion, which this, of course, is Islam, a man-made religion. OIC warns of hate speech against Muslims in Sri Lanka. Denmark threatens woman critical of Islam with removal of foster child. Turkish dissident faces 10 years in prison for blasphemy against Islam, not against a person,

13:23against a religious political system, which has no feelings. And yet 10 years, Kaup de Christian arrested for allegedly insulting Islam on Facebook and Egypt. Pakistani man jailed for blasphemous Facebook post. Malaysian man gets 10 years in prison for insulting Islam on Facebook. Now, someone came in and helped him out and they actually had that downgraded to six years in prison for insulting Islam on Facebook. So what else does Sharia include? It includes, as you saw, criticism of Islam, criticism of Muhammad. In Islam, hate speech doesn't have to be against a person. It could be anything that a Muslim finds offensive. As you can see here, based on the color, this is the punishment in different countries for criticizing Islam, the Quran, or Muhammad. The dark red is death. The light red is prison. Orange is fines.

14:24Yellow is restrictions on that kind of speech. And the gray, that's really easy. If you're living in the gray area, you're called an Islamophob, because that's the way that they try to shut you up. Because if they can't have Islamic law, the next best thing in their mind is Sharia compliance. And so far as Western countries changing their laws to cater to Muslims and make it harder for Muslims to be offended. And again, if you can't get Sharia, get Sharia compliance. And it was President Obama who said, the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Now, how did this Sharia come about? Well, this is, we had the Hadith collections that we talked about, the Syrah collections, the history and so on. And we have the death of Muhammad in 632, which I talked about earlier. We have Islam's primary sources in the dates of death for these different people here, who were historians, jurists, Hadith collectors, and so on.

15:28Because these are the men who wrote down what we now know as the Sharia books, Islamic law. And also the Hadith collections of the things that Muhammad said. And just historians in general. Now, here, this map is showing different countries throughout the world, of course. But this is colored on the school of Sharia that they follow. Because different schools have different strictness for different laws that are broken, of course. But the Hanifah, Maliki, Shafah, and Homboli schools are the four major schools, according to Sunni Muslims. Shia or Shiite Muslims have other schools of Sharia that they follow. And there's a couple of minor ones as well. But this is basically the school of Sharia, or Islamic law that a particular country focuses on. And again, the punishment for committing crimes is different under different schools of Sharia. Now, this one here shows the country and the colors are based on how much Sharia they actually implement. Like the green is a Muslim majority country

16:30and members of the OIC where Sharia plays no role in the judicial system. The yellow are countries where Sharia applies in personal status issues, such as marriage, divorce, and hair, tents, and child custody. But otherwise has a secular legal system. The purple are countries where Sharia applies in full. And this is applying to non-Muslims as well as Muslims. And the orange is countries with regional variations in application of Sharia. So you have different schools of Sharia and then you have different percentages of Sharia being implemented in percentage of daily life, so to speak. How about other aspects of Sharia? What else else is it entailed? Well, the bill proposed in Lansing, would ban Islamic law known as Sharia law here in Michigan, as St. Lawmaker says, is aimed at protecting women and children. But Muslim advocates say it would violate religious freedom. Seven investigators, Jonathan Carlson joins us live now

17:30with much more on this debate, Jonathan. Carolyn Good evening. She tells me she has a number of co-sponsors and other lawmakers who say they'll support the bill. State Representative Michelle Huytenga of Wexford County proposing a bill that would ban Michiganders from using a foreign country's laws in the courtroom. Sharia law included a cornerstone of the Islamic tradition. We believe that the proposed bill is not only anti-Islam, but unnecessary. The council on American Islamic relations weighed in. We have the establishment clause of the Constitution that no one religion can be singled out. The law of the land is the Constitution that any foreign law trumping. The bill appears to be in response to a Detroit doctor who was recently charged with running a clinic engaged in general mutilation. What some say is an extreme form of Sharia law. A handful of Democrats at the State House are joining area Muslims in opposition. Saying linking the duck and alleged crimes and Sharia law are a stretch and they worry it'll limit religious freedoms. Huytenga talked to action news by phone.

18:31I just want to make sure that we're abiding by on federal and state laws and send a message that any main actions against them and the children will be tolerated in Michiganders. 10 other states have done this. A number of others are considering it. We're live in the Metro tonight. I'm Jonathan Carlson, seven action news. All right, thank you so many of you who saw that on the news years ago saw the charges were dropped in that first federal genital mutilation case in the US. Now there's a US code which declares that female circumcision or cutting is a federal crime punishable by five years in prison. So what is female genital mutilation? Well, there are different types that are practiced throughout the world but they all involve shaving or actually cutting off different areas of female genitals which can even include sowing its shut. It's heartbreaking to see the reactions of the girls who are forced to experience this. Thankfully, over half of US states have banned FGM

19:35and a growing list of states are also banning foreign and international law as a whole. Now there are Muslims who say, oh, this isn't part of Islamic law but that's not the case when it's talked about in Islamic law books. It's actually found in numerous schools of law in that this is Sunnah. Sunnah is again the life of Muhammad and what Muhammad approved of and so on. So we find technically female circumcision which results in mutilation many times. And what's the Islamic justification for this? In 1981, Sheikh Ghatil Hock of Al-Azari University, a Supreme Authority in Sunni Islam, issued a thought to us stating that circumcision of girls was a religious obligation. Now every two hours a case of FGM is reported in England and we see the immigration of Muslims into England and Europe.

20:35Over 5,000 new FGM cases in England last year still no prosecutions and that was in 2017. Many African countries over 90% of girls face female genital mutilation. And again, technically it's circumcision but when a Muslim doctor does what they do, then again, the other is the result. And here you can see the percentage of girls in these countries who go through this. And I talked about Indonesia a little bit earlier as far as how only the most northwestern part of the country is under Fulsharia. But yet here's the 49% of the girls throughout Indonesia age zero from birth to 11 years old who have undergone FGM or circumcision. Now we see this news story of Abbott, Texas and Axe anti-Sharia law and this was in 2017. At the same time Montana Democrats voted against

21:36a bill banning Sharia and they called it repugnant. Now here's a women's rights conference in Saudi Arabia as you can tell there's no women there. And as I said, that under different schools of law you have different punishments. Let's take homosexuality. Under the Hanuffy school, the punishments up to the ruler. Under the Shaffee, a hundred lashes. Under the Maliki and Humbley, it's death. Indonesia's Ache, which I've mentioned a number of times here, right? Most northwestern part under Fulsharia. Two gay men sentenced to 85 lashes. So it's important to know that Sharia or Islamic law is not compatible with the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. Sharia deals with all aspects of daily life and what's the Dawah tactic that Muslims will do or say, oh, praying five times a day is Sharia. Yeah, that's true. But it's not all of Sharia. Some Muslims will say, oh, wouldn't you like your loans and credit cards be interest free?

22:38That's Sharia. Well, 99% of other parts of Sharia isn't worth getting interest free credit cards and loans. Sharia includes politics, economics, banking, business law, contract law, marriage, divorce, child rearing, and custody, sexuality, sin, crime, and social issues. Again, the country's under Fulsharia. It's every aspect of life for both Muslims and non-Muslims. If you're in one of those other countries where it's a percentage of Sharia or a particular school of Sharia, that determines how much it impacts your life. When a person converts to Islam, they're not only submitting to a religion. They're also submitting to a political system. As I said, Islam is a religious political system. Or in other words, an Islamic state. Therefore, when a person leaves Islam, they're also committing treason. And that's why the penalty for leaving Islam is death, if you're living in a Muslim country, or a country under Sharia.

23:39In a country under Fulsharia, this is what is denied. Freedom of speech, the equality of rights of women, the rights of non-Muslims, freedom of thoughts, freedom of artistic expression, non-Muslims cannot bear arms, democracy, any laws other than Sharia, any change of laws, because then you're changing a law's law, which is supposedly eternal. You can't change a law's law, remember? They say a law who walk bar is a law's greater. Also, Islam under Fulsharia denies freedom of the press. In cases of divorce, any children over the age of seven years old automatically go to the man, in cases of divorce as a result of apostasy of either the husband or the wife, the children automatically go to the Muslim. So what are the punishments under Sharia? For example, in a under Sharia, you leave Islam three days to repent and come back or you die. In America, we have freedom of religion.

24:40Adultery ranges from beating with 100 lashes to being stoned to death. In America, unfortunately, people commit adultery here and there whenever they decide to. Alcohol beating with 40 to 80 lashes, stealing right hand, cut off at the wrist. In America, of course, you have jail or fines, slander is beating with 80 lashes. Remember, that is not just lying, but hurting a reputation or saying anything that a Muslim finds offensive. And murder does not apply to Muslims who kill non-Muslims. That's not murder. And if a Muslim murder is a woman or a slave, I shouldn't say murder, they killed them. It's not murder because it was a woman or was a slave. If a woman claims she's been raped, she has to provide four male witnesses who kind of sounds like, you know, the perpetrators want to turn themselves in. Other than that, nothing's going to happen. If she cannot do that, she's usually accused of adultery, which again ranges from beating with 100 lashes to being stoned to death.

25:40That's why you have women who were raped in other countries and then they are punished because they were raped. It's their fault, according to Islam. So the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights are not compatible with Islamic law. And people need to realize this. And yet, again, the next best thing for Muslims is to have Sharia compliance. Canada is a far ahead of the US, and it was back in 2017. M103, it's talked about prosecuting and censorship of speech offensive to Islam and Muslims up in Canada. OIC chief, again, OIC is the organization of Islamic cooperation. Freedom of speech does not allow insulting Islam. And again, it's because Islam is a religious political system. A religion, political ideology combined, but it's the religion that drives the politics. It's not the politics that drive the religion. And if we look to political violence, how much do we find in the New Testament? Zero. Hebrew Bible, little bit. And the Islamic trilogy, 328,000 words

26:43of his political violence. And we also have, when you have that spread of Sharia and you have the spread of Islam under those maps that I showed you, the caliphates that was set up under Muhammad, which had successors after successors, and the Umayyad Empire, the Abbasid Empire, and so on, the Islamic caliphate that began with Muhammad fell finally in 1924. It was in place since the time of Muhammad. What fell in 1924? What am I referring to? The Ottoman Empire. That was the end of the caliphate that began with Muhammad. Four years later, in 1928, Hassan Al-Bana created the Al-Quan al-Muslimine. This is the Muslim Brotherhood. And they had the same goal of a worldwide caliphate, but a new methodology in that rather than just outward

27:44physical fighting jihad for the cause of a law, let's go about it in a slow, methodical 100-year plan for Islamization. That was 98 years ago, 1928. We're now 2026. 100-year plan, we're not too far away. And this is the same goal as the jihadists, but patient. The Muslim Brotherhood's plan, number one, establishment of an elite Muslim leadership while raising TAKWA or Islamic consciousness in the Muslim community. Phase two, creation of Islamic institutions, the leadership can control along with the formation of autonomous Muslim enclaves. Phase three, infiltration and Islamization of America's political, social, economic, and educational systems, forming a shadow state within the state, escalation of religious conversions to Islam,

28:45the manipulation of mass media and sanitization of language offensive to Islam. That sound like where we're at? Stage four, openly hostile public confrontation over US policies, including rioting and militant demands for special rights and accommodations for Muslims. Phase five, final conflict and overthrow, jihad. Siraj Wahaz is an advocate for the replacement of the US government within Islamic caliphates. He said, remember that if you get involved in politics, you have to be very careful that your leader is for a law. You don't get involved in politics because it's the American thing to do. You get involved in politics because politics or a weapon to use in the cause of Islam. And I'm sure all of you noticed that about six years ago, you had this influx of more Muslims running for office than ever before. And today you have Muslims becoming mayors,

29:48city councils, all Muslim now, and so on. It's the political, slow, methodical agenda, a slow takeover of Islamization rather than a physical fighting which is taking place in other countries. And that's why I said, jihad is physical fighting. And that's the, every reference to jihad in the Quran is reference to physical fighting. But jihad is struggle or striving. And Muslims say, oh, say inward struggle, yes, although it's not the primary form of jihad that we find in the Quran. And it's also outward fighting. But it's not just outward fighting, it's anything that furthers the cause of Islam. In law, according to General doctrine and in historical tradition, the jihad consists of military action with the object of the expansion of Islam. And if need be, it's defense.

30:49Batiors said jihad is efforts by military means or peaceful methods for the establishment of Islamic law or its spread, mission, or sovereignty over infidel lands. Until through jihad, they come under Islamic rule. Jihad must continue as long as unbelief exists. So when I made lights out when Islam rules America, which is available on DVD back there, that's our lights out trilogy we call it, because it has the Muslim Brotherhood orgian identity in agenda, which is a visual 45 minute, one hour presentation just on the Muslim Brotherhood. It has unveiling the faxas Sharia, which is even more about Sharia than I gave today. And it has lights out all on one DVD. I talk about in lights out, which was the newest of those three, the four areas of American society that are being Islamized. And I made lights out in 2019. Those four areas of American society being Islamized

31:49were education, immigration, government, and churches. Education is one of the most important areas that Muslims have to address. And while our objective, our final objective is not just to become part of the system that we experience now and that we see, our objective, our final objective is to create our own Islamic systems and not only create Islamic systems for Muslims, but to look at all the other people who are sharing this country with us as potential Muslims. And if we look at them as potential Muslims and feel that we have the obligation, which Allah has told us, to try to bring them into the same style of thinking, into the same way of behaving, into the same objectives that we have, then we have to have some way that we can communicate with them and some way we can work with them. And in that long range process of making America Muslim, all of America Muslim,

32:50then we have to have some actual short range goals. We have to have some way of dealing with them and know how we're gonna deal with them in which ways and be very calculated about it or else we will not accomplish our goals. How many of you were watching that on C-SPAN in 1989? It's not good to be nuts on the same page as an Islamist. Well, I've always brought my children up at Hamdada to think of themselves first, last and always as Muslim. My little daughter, who's in second grade, kept saying to her teacher, I'm not American, I'm Muslim. And after a while, I started getting notes coming home saying, what does she mean? And I got the same sort of notes from the school where we were overseas in a Muslim country, so-called Muslim country, the principal said, what does she mean? And she was in a Muslim country. And they would say, well, you're American, right? She said, no, I'm Muslim. And the principal here said the same thing.

33:50That shows that we have similar kinds of problems in approaching the field of education, whether we're living in a so-called Muslim country, or whether we're living here in the United States. We should be involved. We should be involved at every level, the local level, the county level, the state level, the national level, and the international level. How are we going to be involved? We want to be involved as a distinct Islamic entity, and I'd say Islamic and not Muslim, because there are lots of Muslims running around who don't even know what their agenda is, and who start defining their agenda through the eyes of non-Muslims, so that I want to say Islamic. And if we are Islamic individuals, and we come to our relationship and our connection with the public school system as Islamic individuals, then we will not be part of the great, what they call, American melting pot. We do not want to melt into American society and disappear. We want to go into American society with Islamic ideals and revamp their thinking. We want to revamp them.

34:51We want to turn them into Muslim individuals. In other words, don't assimilate. So in California, under the guise of teaching world history and geography, Muslim activists are infiltrating the American educational system. The impressionable young minds of our boys and girls are being indoctrinated to potentially accept and embrace the religion of Islam. This is the goal behind the course on Islam that is currently being taught to the seventh graders and the California public school system and other schools around the country. San Diego, this came out years ago, unified school district, administrators and teachers, will have calendars showing Islamic holidays. Students will learn more about the religion and social studies classes, and safe places will be created on campuses for Muslim students as part of a multi-tiered approach to combating Islamophobia, which again is just a routes to Sharia compliance.

35:52US school let Muslims interrupt classes to convert students as 2019. US school urging teachers to bless Muslim students in Arabic. That was 2019. Have you see taking a field trip to a mosque and it's not just elementary level or junior high? First Muslim college in US takes place of Lutheran seminary, Islamist infiltration of American universities. This has been taking place for a long time. Look at this list of schools, very well known ones. Throughout America, the middle column is the money that they get from US taxpayers. The money in the right is from Muslim nations. So when a university in America is getting 10 to 20 times the amount of money from Muslim nations as they are from US taxpayers, who's gonna have the say at the end of the day

36:52of what is included in that curriculum, what is sugar-coded and so on. Just like this Wayne State's professor in Michigan who peddles fake Islamic history. Middle East studies at UT Austin, biased professors and politicized classrooms. So if you want your child or grandchild to get a degree in anti-Semitism, you know where to send them. But in addition to those things being jihad because they're furthering the cause of Islam, how about printing an ad about printing an ad? In other words, printing an ad letting people know how they can print an ad to shed a good light on Islam. This is an ad about printing an ad. It's telling Muslims to go out and print ads wherever you can, pointing people to Islam. It's a religion of inclusion, didn't you know? Muslims believe in all the prophets of the old and new testaments. Read the Quran, the original unchanged word of God

37:54as his last and final testament to humankind. And then it points people to Muslim websites. Now in addition to an ad about printing an ad, you have ads along the roadway. When you're driving, when you're children or grandchildren are driving, one God, one message, Abraham Moses, Jesus, Muhammad. Why? Because Islam teaches that all of them were Muslims, just like Jesus was a Muslim, but really Issa. Remember, Muhammad believed in peace, social justice and women's rights. Good thing you know what peace means in Islam. Good thing you know what social justice means in Islam. Bottom left find Jesus in the Quran, Muhammad in the Bible. They're referring to Issa and they're referring to the Bible because they interpret Deuteronomy as Moses talking about the coming of Muhammad. And they take the gospel of John and they interpret it as Jesus talking about the coming of Muhammad. Rather than Moses talking about Jesus

38:55and Jesus talking about the Holy Spirit. And of course, bottom right, Islam, the message of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. Muhammad was that final prophet. When you accept Islam, you don't lose Jesus. You just learn the truth about him. This is a Dawah table where Muslims are giving out free Quran's, wanting people to say the Shahada and become Muslim. I love Jesus because I'm a Muslim. We saw that sweatshirt earlier. Muslim saying, yeah, we believe in Jesus. You can be a Muslim and still believe in Jesus. It's a different Jesus, a false, unhistorical revisionist, Islamized Jesus. Yet little public events, the one on the right is a school campus in Florida, is Dawah tables calling people to Islam. This one's popular on social media, Abraham worshiped this way. Moses worshiped this way. Jesus worshiped this way. Muslims worshiped this way. Like, oh, they bowed their heads to the ground.

39:56Therefore, they were Muslims. Well, as well say that Muslims are actually Buddhists because Buddhists pray that way. So, no Muslims gonna agree with that, right? It's because they're trying to point to Islam and nothing else. Now, you all know, being in Texas, new stories have come out in the last two weeks. Democrat activist, Texas judge rules that state agency must green light, 400 acres, Islamic city near Dallas. This came out May 1st. Taxpayer funded Texas Water Park announces Muslims only day. Will require dress and accordance with Islamic values and serve only halal slaughtered meat. That came out May 4th. But, latest news, that was canceled. And reason, it says, Muslim only quote unquote, event at taxpayer funded Texas Water Park canceled after abit threatens to withhold state grants. So anyway, that's the latest on that new story.

40:57But look at this one. Texas American Muslim University opens in Dallas. That was May 6th. So we got three steps forward, one step back with the Water Park. Who can guess where this Costco is? That's in Texas. Now, anyone guess what that country is? You ever seen so many people praying in the street before? No. That's in Asia. That's in Asia. That's Russia. That's Bangladesh, I believe. That's the UK. Syria will dominate the world. Islam will dominate the world. And the UK, you have Syria controlled zones where they're trying to make this neighborhood under Syria. There's over 80 Syria courts in Britain now. In the UK, over 2,000 churches closed in the last 10 years. And that's 2021 new story.

42:00Crosses and Italian cemetery covered to avoid offense to other religions. 2019. Durham Church criticized for offering to cover crosses and host Muslim prayers. 2019. Church allowed to remove pews to allow Muslim events, court rules. 2018. Should be no surprise at all that Richard Dawkins, you know, Richard Dawkins is, raise your hand. Famous atheist, right? He has mixed feelings about the decline of Christianity now. Insofar as Christianity might be a bulwark against something worse. And he's from the UK. So what's another form of jihad? Because it furthers the cause of Islam. Mass immigration. Because you can't vet all these people. And who are they going to vote for? They're going to vote for the person who offers them the most free stuff. This is how you change a country financially. This is how you change a country politically.

43:03Because every time you import a person, you're importing a world view. If they're a Muslim, you just imported the Islamic world view into your country. And who's going to influence whom? If Muslims are more devout for a lie, then Christians are for the truth. Who's going to influence who? Do we as Christians realize the evangelistic angle of mass immigration? In America, you can legally share the gospel with a Muslim and not get in trouble for it. A Muslim can legally leave Islam and not be killed for it. And they're coming from countries where it would be illegal to share the gospel with them. You'd be in prison for sharing the gospel. Which means take advantage of it here while you still have time. And here's a question to ask yourself. Tomorrow, America came under full communism and it became illegal to share the gospel. Would you share the gospel just as much as you do now?

44:08Less than you do now or more than you do now. And the second question is, what are you going to do in the meantime? Because you have an Islamization of the West taking place. You also have a ungodliness taking place in the West. And people just becoming non-religious in general. And all you have to do is watch that, I think, 2018 movie and what is free on YouTube. The movie about Richard Wormbrand, the founder of Voice of the Martyrs, called Tortured for Christ. And you see what happens to Christians when atheism teams up with bad theology. Now, when you have a mass immigration coming into countries and therefore you're importing a worldview on a mass scale, Muhammad, number one name for baby boys in Berlin. This is 2019.

45:09Muhammad is top English baby name for fifth year running, 2017. Muslim babies likely to outnumber others by 2035 reports as 2017. Europe's Christian population falls amid rise of atheists and Muslims, 2017. Here in America, Census Bureau says the US birth rate continues dropping in 42 states. That was 2020. And 2019, Muhammad makes list of 10 most popular baby names in the US for the first time. So just as you saw, there's other countries. That's America. And that happened a number of years ago. So like I said, lights out when Islam rules America is more relevant today than it was in 2019 when I released it. When people said, oh, it'll never happen here. Oh, Trump will save us. Oh, this, oh, that. It's available back there on DVD. And to give you an update, here is the official UK Census

46:13numbers for 2001, 2011, and 2021 of Christians, Muslims, and no religion, which means they were a nominal Christian, now nothing, Muslim, now nothing, or just they don't believe in God or whatever else. 2001, Christians, 41 million, 2011, 33.2, 2021, 27.5. Muslims in the UK, 2001, 1.6 million, 2011, 2.7, 2021, 3.9. No religion, UK, 2001, 8.5 million, 2011, 14.1 million, 2021, 22.2 million. Again, he got his lamization, and he got no religion, no religion, plus bad theology, communism, North America.

47:19So we got Canada here, too. Christians in the year 2000, 338.9 million, 2010, 266.5 million, 2020, 237.6 million. Remember, every census in America that says Christian also includes J.Dubs, also includes Mormons, also includes every theological cult that claims to be Christian. Muslims in America, 2000, 3 million, 2010, 3.9, six years ago, 5.9 million, no religion in America, year 2000, 56.4 million, 2010, 59, 6 years ago, 114 million. So America is just as much of a mission field as every other country.

48:19To be a missionary, you don't have to cross the sea, you have to see the cross, and go across your street. And America is going to become a mission field as immigration continues, whereas in Iran, that is one of the hot topics in the news, Iran has the fastest growing underground church in the world, and has been that way for a long time. How about mosques in the United States? Year 2000, 1,209, one year before 9, 11, 2010, 2,106. Six years ago, 2,796. Now look at that, folks. The entire US. How many? 2,796. Germany alone, over 3,000 mosques.

49:24Germany alone, with over 3,000 mosques, is smaller than California. Germany is like the Sacramento Valley to Los Angeles County. That's the size of Germany. Imagine 3,000 mosques in 2,3rds of California. That's what Germany is like. So what's life like in Germany? For one Christian pastor, who should be a role model for Christians throughout America. This is a pastor who knows there is a cost for speaking out boldly, especially in today's Germany. We're standing on the Bible without compromise is viewed by many as bigoted, hateful, and even un-Christian. Pastor Olaf Lotzel has been attacked in the media, investigated by the local government, and even condemned by fellow pastors. His crime? Refusing to bend a knee to political correctness.

50:27I'm only preaching the gospel in a clear way. This is my duty to do this preaching in this way for our Lord. In his sermons, Lotzel cuts no corners and soft pedals nothing. To some, he might sound mean when he attacks other religions. But Lotzel is standing against what he sees as a spirit of compromise, that seems to have swallowed Germany and the German state church. In the process, he has angered the German establishment and a lot of other German pastors. Mix one very politically correct European nation with a pastor who refuses to compromise on the word of God, and you have the perfect storm. Lotzel says the battle in Germany today is over who God is. They sat, tala, and our God, the Christian God, Jesus Christ is the same God. If you tell a Muslim, has your God a son? He would say so. No. Our God has a son. His name is Jesus Christ.

51:28So they are not the same. If you speak out loud and clearly the truth of the Bible, that there's only one way to heaven. This way is Jesus Christ. There's only one God, Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. And there's no other God beside him. Then you have problem, not only today in Germany. 70 German pastors gathered in Bremen this year to denounce Lotzel behind a banner calling for diversity. The public prosecutor investigated him for hate speech, then cleared him. And the Bremen Parliament passed a resolution against him. It reportedly is the first time a German pastor has been condemned by a German parliament since World War II. But far from backing down, Lotzel says the real problem is that in his estimation, most pastors in Germany's state church have not been born again. I think that over 80% from the pastors inside the national church in Germany are not reborn.

52:34And that's a great problem. And because of this, they make their own doctrine. The Bible is the Word of God, is our law. Chapter by chapter, book by book, sentence by sentence, letter by letter. Lotzel pastors at the historic St. Martin's church in Bremen, where around 1679, the church's pastor, Joachim Neander, wrote the great hymn, Praise to the Lord, the Almighty. Lotzel enjoys saying that Pastor Neander also got in trouble for preaching the gospel boldly. Some pastors would have been rattled by so many attacks against them. But Lotzel, who comes from a family with a long military tradition, says he is in a war between Christ and the devil, and the attacks reassure him. This is one sign that you are on the right way in your preaching when you get problems. If you preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and everyone is clapping in his hand,

53:35then you have a problem. Because if you're telling the truth from the Bible, the devil will come and he will fight against you in several ways. But he will not accept it. He will fight against the Word of God. In fact, Lotzel admits his concern is not becoming discouraged, but getting a big head. I get over 10,000 emails. So many persons came to me and said, You are a great pastor. And the more persons came and told me this, inside me, something happened, so I said, Oh, I am really this great pastor. And something happens, the devil could come here and say, Yes, yes, you are good. And that's not good. I am nothing. I am only a sinner. I am only a tool for Jesus Christ. And when Jesus can use this tool, give any honor to Jesus Christ. I am nothing. The great hymn of this church says, Let the amen sound from his people again. Lotzel believes revival is coming and he asks Christians to pray for Germany.

54:41I ask you brothers and sisters in America, please pray for Germany, pray for awakening, pray that the Word of Jesus Christ will go out and reach persons who are lost. So that Jesus can save them. Dale heard CBN news in brain Germany. So whether all of your non-Christian friends and relatives and neighbors and co-workers and so on, realize that or not, Christianity in the gospel of Jesus Christ was the only thing that stands between you and Islamism or you and Islam. So the gospel is a solution to all of this. The first session we talked about what Islam is, what Muslims believe, or what they should believe if they're good Muslims, more specifically what Islam teaches. The history of Islam, this one we talked about, the threat of Islam,

55:42and then the third session, the next and last session, will be on our response as Christians and how we respond to the lives of Islam and all of that. So any questions based on this session's material? Yes? Hmm? Well, there's no equality. Or as a Westerner, as a non-Muslim, there isn't equality for women under Islam. But in Islam, women aren't highly esteemed. You see videos online of the way that many Muslim men treat their wives. And again, this isn't painting all Muslims with a brush in that just because someone's a Muslim, they treat their wife bad and so on.

56:44It's just that if a Muslim follows Islam according to Muhammad, they're not going to be as honored as a Western Muslim, might honor his wife because he actually loves her and so on. So just as we want to separate, just even though you know what Islam teaches, if you go out and talk with 10 Muslims tomorrow, none of them may believe what Islam teaches, but then why be a Muslim? It's like, you're not even following Islam according to Muhammad. Not that we want to point him to it, we want to point him to the gospel. But just as a true Christian does what Jesus said to do, a true devout Muslim does what Muhammad said to do. So if many Muslim men don't treat their wives bad, great. That's a good thing. It's a good thing they don't treat them the way that Muhammad would because it wasn't very high at all. And you see that in Islamic sources, again, the way that women in general, are much as wives are treated in Islamic countries. Yeah. Yes, it's not good.

57:46And Muslims will say, oh, Islam and nobles women, a woman putting on a hijab makes her a nobled, more beautiful, whatever. The hijab is a sign of Sharia compliance. It's like Ilhan Omar. She's living in America where she's not living under Sharia, but she's Sharia compliance because she's wearing that. So here's the thing, too, is that I saw three Muslim women in the last 24 hours. How do I know that they were Muslims? So they were in a hijab, a head covering. Now, for all I know, I saw 15 Muslim men in the last 24 hours. But how do I know? They're not wearing a head covering, right? And also, too, a Muslim woman is in America, or in the West. She's not living under Sharia, and she's choosing to wear that. Unless you know she's pretty devout Muslim, or her residence pretty strict, or whatever. And she's not really going to want to talk with a man who she's not related to. And that's why you women have an opportunity that us men don't have,

58:49and that you can walk up to a Muslim woman in a store and talk with her, and her husband won't think nothing about it because you're a woman. And that's why we have another resource over there called woman to woman, sharing Jesus with a Muslim friend. We need many Christian women to get equipped to reach Muslim women with the gospel. And you can do it, and I can't, and your husband can't, but you can't. So another resource we have back there is the gospel of John in English and Arabic. And this is free for you to take. I think we have a small stack at least. This is something you can have with you, because I'm going to tell you why in the next session. Any other questions about this one? Okay, we'll take a little bit early break for 10, 15 minutes, whatever we want to do it. And we'll come back for session three, which is called reaching Muslims

59:49with grace and truth, answering objections, and sharing the gospel. Also, too, another thing we have, this is a 20-hour apologetics to Islam training course, starring the founder of our ministry, Joe Kerry, and Christine back there. She has these available on six discs in here, and the six ones are resource discs with a lot of hard-to-find material. But we have these in DVD form, and the flash drive back there is all of this on a flash drive. Because there's people say, I don't have a DVD player anymore. The flash drive has all the same content. 20 hours apologetics to Islam, covering introduction to apologetics to Islam, the Christian and the Great Commission, Islam 101, basic beliefs and practices, Christianity and Islam theological differences, two hours on jihad, two hours on Muhammad, the authority of the Bible, two hours on the Quran, two hours on women in Islam, two hours on answering objections, three hours on sharing the gospel with Muslims,

1:00:52and do's and don'ts of Muslim evangelism, all in here, all in the flash drive as well.