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Terri, thanks for doing this. What do you know about fatherhood?

Well, my wife and I just had number eight, right? So I look, I will tell you this.

When you say just, well, we might go, well, no, but I mean, when did you have number eight?

Oh, last week. And you know, she, I was like, I just want to convey the eminence of it.

To be fair to me, I'm a good husband and father. I did ask her if she wanted us to reschedule

this. And she's such a huge fan of your show. And everything you do, she was like, no,

you have to do it. Don't miss out on this. Thank you. Well, that's, uh, that's amazing.

So it was the father of eight. Yes. Why are you the father of eight?

Well, I would say that, you know, I'm the else of 10 kids. I grew up working with my dad in our

piece of shop. I had an amazing relationship with him. And I got to see what being a father is

firsthand. And I had amazing grandparents and amazing great grandparents. But even more so,

I just, I love my wife. Yes. I met her when I was 20, 20 years old. We started dating. That's

we were on a presidential campaign out in Iowa. And I feel madly in love with her. And it hasn't

stopped. And so, you know, I love being a dad because these kids are all unique and different. They

make the world more beautiful. They're funny. They're bad. Uh, I, it strengthens me as a person.

But I just, I love my wife. I love my kids. Uh, I love finding out who they are, right? Because when

you're raising them, you learn who your children are and who they're going to become. And each one of

them is so different. It's funny. You, you said in that district, I agree with everything that you

said. But the one thing you said twice was I love my wife. So it sounds like your marriage is at the

center of your, of your thinking of yourself as a father. Yeah. And I look back at at, you know,

because marriage is ups and downs, right? And you fight and you have disagreements and you move

forward. But anytime, the only regrets that I'm going to have on my deathbed is when I wasn't

as charitable to my wife or I wasn't as kind and caring patient. Yeah, or patient or dismissive,

right? Those are the embarrassing moments of my life. And I, I, the only thing I'm going to regret

is not spending more time with her, not getting to know her better. But I, I can fix that I think

over the next 40 years. So I have a million questions for you just based on this two-minute exchange.

But can we just go back to the beginning? If you do mind just summarizing it like you said,

I'm one of 10. I work with my dad at our pizza shop. Yeah. So already I know you had an unusual

childhood. Can you just explain it? Well, I grew up in the Quad Cities. It's a Western Illinois

in Eastern Iowa. It's on the Mississippi River hometown of John Deere tractors. We have our own

pizza styles called Quad City style pizza. And I was different. Okay. So it's a barley malt crust,

which is the number one most different thing about it. And it gives it a more caramelization. So

it's a little bit, I don't know, it's, it's a complex flavor. But then it's crisper and we,

it's a medium crust. So the inside is kind of thinner. And then the outside, the crust is thicker.

It's cut into strips. So if you like crust, you get the corner pieces. If you don't like crust,

you get the middle pieces because there's thinner. But the, the sauce is more robust. You know,

I like all different types of pizzas. I don't like sweet pizza sauce for some reason.

But it's got red pepper and it's just a little bit spicy. The sausage is actually the most

important thing that we have. The thing that makes it most unique is it's a fennel sausage.

It's spicier. So if you don't like spicy food, you wouldn't like it. The toppings are underneath

the cheese. So it gives it a steamed effect instead of a fried effect. It's the best thing ever.

I miss it every day. I've never heard pizza describe so precisely or lovingly.

Yeah. Well, it's, it's a passion of mine. And I, I am not a believer in there being just one

pizza place or one pizza that is better than everything else. There are all these different types

of pizza flavors. There's new Haven style. There's New York style. There's St. Louis,

Chicago. There's two types of Chicago style pizza. There's a tavern style. That's also cut into

strips, but it's a thinner crust. And then there's obviously the Lou Maldonadi type, which is my

favorite Chicago style pizza. But there's a, there's me a pollen pizza. I know a lot about pizza.

It's one of my passions. Interesting. I've eaten a lot of pizza more than my share, but I don't know

as much. So I need to bone up. But your family owned a pizza place. Yeah. That was where all of us

kids started working. We started working. I started working at 10. 1996 is when we opened. I was the

head dishwasher. What was it called? St. Giuseppe's Heavenly Pizza. And there's an interesting

story about my dad in this in that it's called St. Giuseppe's Heavenly Pizza. Giuseppe is Joseph

in Italian. And St. Joseph is the patron saint of our family. He's the, he's the foster father of

Jesus, right? So he's the patron saint of fathers. He's a patron saint of workers. He's an amazing,

he's the greatest non divine figure that ever existed. I would say besides Virgin Mary obviously.

But my dad started this pizza place to make more money to provide for the family. I think they

just had number five at the time, which when you become a father, you really feel the economic

pressures and the stress. But before he opened the pizza restaurant, he was an insurance salesman.

And he worked a potential insurance. And in the 80s, his parents got divorced. He was a senior

in high school. And he became a party guy. His dad was a bartender. His mom also worked at bars.

They got divorced. And it really adversely impacted us. Yeah. And he experienced terrible things.

I don't want to get into that stuff because it's just it's actually kind of painful. But he got

way off track. He got way off track. And this is during the 80s at the height of the crack

epidemic. Yeah. And you know, they didn't they didn't really have to sell crack that much. They

basically just said, you know, he smoked pot, right? And so he was leaving a liquor store. This is

when you could buy alcohol at 18. But he's leaving a liquor store in the the crack dealer said,

hey, you guys smoke weed. And they're like, yeah, thinking he's going to sell weed. He goes,

you want something better? And he gave him crack. And crack is obviously one of the worst substances

you can get addicted to. People ruin their lives over it. Only 5% of people that get addicted to

crack end up ever getting clean. So my dad developed a crack addiction at the height of the crack

epidemic. And he was able to keep it at bay or at least keep it under control. But as part of

the filming of this, I sat down with my mom to talk about the her experience as the wife of a guy

with a crack addict and of a crack addict. And one thing that blew me away that I didn't remember

for my childhood really. I knew he had a drug addiction when I was a kid and I knew it was a

problem. I knew he got clean. But she told me that there were days where he would go three days

without ever coming home. He would go to work. They'd go out drinking afterwards and then they'd

go smoke crack and do drugs and they stay out all night. And then he knew he was in trouble. So he

wouldn't go home and he'd go right into work and he'd work. And by the way, he was very successful

at selling insurance. He, I think he was ranked 225 out of 5,000 prudential agents nationwide.

So he's very effective, very productive. But he'd keep going on drinking and he wouldn't come

home until the third night. It really made me think about how these corporations in America,

like my mom noticed when he wasn't home for three nights, but prudential insurance didn't care.

Why would they care? They don't because he's selling, he's selling their product. He's producing

value for them. And they probably were okay with him smoking crack because they probably made

him more effective and efficient. He could get back on the job. And so I've had this

revelation over the last few years that the government's bad. Now it's corrupted. But also

the industries are bad. The industries will show you up and spit you out. And the irony is that

there's this false notion of a work life balance. It's total garbage. It's a total lie. And

it's meant the entire framing of the work life balance is meant to go to war with life.

It is a false dichotomy set up by industries and corporations so that you have to make a choice

between your work and your private life. We'll let you take more vacation time. We'll let you

have some paternity leave. But you got to come back to work and produce value for the company.

Otherwise, you're of no value to us. And it is a way that they have monopolized our actual

lives. And in my opinion, and basically experience with my dad, his life turned around when he

integrated his work in his life. When the pizza shop came around, he was working with his sons.

He was working with his wife. That was the center of our life was the pizza shop. And my

dad absolutely got clean. I want to be very clear about that. So the breaking point was when

my mom was pregnant with number four, right? And Joseph is his name. He's the one that runs

the piece of restaurants now. But she filed for divorce when she was pregnant with number four

after another three day bender. And there was something really beautiful in all this that happened,

which is if you go back, I mentioned I quit drinking during my wife's fourth pregnancy.

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it's America's coffee. Well that there's something transformational about becoming a father,

especially for the fourth time. That's like I really got a girl. The slower among us take a

few kids to figure it out. But yeah, that's but it's amazing. She filed for divorce. He didn't know

where to go. So we went to his mom's house. Mom had divorced his dad. So we thought, you know,

that's where you should go and get a device. She found my grandmother finds out that my mom's

divorcing him. She calls my mom and confronts her, which is interesting, right? Because

this is a woman who absolutely participated in the no fault divorce culture. Yes.

But she said, why are you divorcing my my son? And my mom said her name was Pat. And she said,

Pat, he's not getting clean. He doesn't want to be married to me. He doesn't want a family.

And grandma Pat hung up the phone. She said, I'll handle this. And she sat down with my dad and

said, I just want you to know, I'll always love you. I'll always support you. But I never would

have divorced your father if he asked me not to. And that was the moment where my dad called my mom

and said, I don't want to get divorced. I want to get clean. And I think at a deep level,

he knew that his problems weren't just because he was a wild and crazy guy. He was filling a

major hole in his heart from his parents divorce. And so I, you know, I'm actually grateful

that he developed that crack addiction. Oh, yeah. Because it made him a better person.

I totally agree with that. And he chose us, right? He chose us over the crack addiction. He chose

to break the cycle and the dysfunction and the chaos that result from breaking up families.

He didn't want that trust to man who said to face that about himself. Yes. He got lying

into himself. It's so humiliating. It's humbling. Right? You have to admit, you know, when you go

through these narcotics anonymous programs or any anonymous programs, you have to say, I'm helpless

against this. I rely on a power greater than myself. You have to accuse yourself, right? You have

to go and apologize to everyone that you caused damage to. It's, it's such a beautiful program.

And the people that really take it seriously and go through it and end up absolutely transforming

their life. That's like the humiliating a man can break him or make him. I mean, Jesus humiliates

Peter right at the end. It's like, I'm never leaving you. Yeah, you're going to deny me three times.

Humiliates him. Yes. And then builds the church on him because he's been humiliated.

Yeah. I mean, I feel like that's those are the people I trust. Don't you? People who face that?

The people that are reflect, they reflect on their own behavior. Yes.

Those are the best people in the world. I totally agree. Rather than the people that blame

everyone else for their problems, like I think a major problem in our world is that

there's obviously narcissism and people obsessed with themselves. There's narcissism.

But they blame everyone else for their problems. And the reality is you have no control over. Oh,

this is an interesting. You have no control over what other people do. So a lot of people don't

know this unless you've been in these anonymous programs. But my dad was in narcotics anonymous.

My mom, so there's a whole support system for the families of these people. It's called

Alonon. And my mom told this story about how her first meeting she comes in. And there's all these

experienced women that have been dealing with alcoholic husbands or drug addict addicted husbands.

She comes in and they go around the room. It's just like an anonymous meeting. And she's like,

I just want to get my husband clean. I'm willing to do whatever I have to do to get him clean.

And they kind of like padded her on the head. Oh, that's very cute. That you think you can

change your husband. You can't. He's not going to get clean unless he wants to get clean. And

that was when I learned that from my mom, it was a major life lesson that you're better off

doing self-reflection about where you come short. And if you really want to change things and

make the world a better place, you have to start with yourself. I think it's all you can do.

Take the plank out of your own eye. I totally agree with that. What's interesting,

though, is that for a man with four kids to admit that he's addicted to crack,

I do think for most men, that kind of breaks them at that point. It's too much. They can't

sort of pick up the mantle of father, head of household again. But your dad goes on to be successful

and have six more kids. Six more kids answer, return in Congress. It's not believable.

Well, and there was something really beautiful about my dad's life. First of all, he got cancer

in 2020. And he was 57. No, 56 when he was diagnosed, he passed away the next year when he was 57.

And it was an advanced stage intestinal cancer. And they wouldn't have been able to pick it up,

even if they did colonoscopies or endoscopies or anything like that, because it was on the outside

of his intestines. But the thing that was beautiful about it was, I went out, I have a great

organization, great chairman and a great president at the time, and they let me go take care of him

the last month and a half. So I'm out there with all my siblings, and you know, you just want to

get out of the house and get clean your head, you know, from everything that's going on. So I

took them all to target and we're just getting snacks and stuff. And I tell them like, you know,

you guys should just be really grateful that he he's even alive now, because he was he had a

real bad drug addiction. And my younger siblings, and these is these are numbers five, six, seven,

and eight. And they're like, what are you talking about? Like, that was addicted crack. They had

no clue, because he had transformed his life so much. And the thing is he was a public figure,

right? So he's a member of Congress. I started speaking about his crack addiction as a way to

bring people over. And he gave me permission on his deathbed to talk about it at the funeral.

And the political reporters from back home were astounded. And there's actually a really

interesting article where they're trying to call BS on me saying that he had a crack addiction,

because they had never heard of anything like this about him. But that's how much

fatherhood and faith transformed his life. Was my siblings didn't even know about it? I mean,

I knew there would be times I have very vague memories of my mom when I'm three putting me in the

back of the car and going and driving to the different bars in our area to try and find him. But

it's very vague. My siblings have no records. Where are you in birth order? I'm the oldest.

How old's your youngest? My youngest sibling is just turned 16. Wow.

My mom was pregnant as she walked down the aisle with me. That's actually? Yes,

yeah, it's very cute. I love it. I absolutely love it. I actually, two of my oldest daughter,

Grace, who just got engaged, is wonderful. She is older than the youngest brother of mine.

Our youngest two siblings of mine. That's amazing.

The nightmare I think for any child and maybe especially the oldest son is his father's death.

I think it's something in the back of your head. You always worry about it or I always did.

How do you view it now? Your father's death. It's always going to be painful. But

there was this moment when he's literally taking his last breaths. Let me go back,

actually. Earlier in the day, you could tell. When someone's about to die that day, there's always

like a big shift in them. They actually get anxious. They want to get up and move around. I

don't know what it is, but he started doing that. We got him back into bed. He was in a lot of pain.

My mom asked him, what can we do? What can we do to help? He said, I just want my family

and I want Jesus. That was his call to us to say I want last rights and he wanted to receive

communion. We got that and we got the whole family in there. Tucker, I looked back on that day

and he died with all 10 of us at his side. That's incredible. Praying for him, thank you, thank you,

God for Bobby. That is a beautiful life and it wouldn't have happened if he hadn't gotten clean.

If he had stayed a crack addict and allowed the divorce to go on, what a max out of four kids.

Maybe he got some other woman on the side or whatever. But he died with all 10 of us.

Great fold of God for his existence and for what he did in our life. It was a beautiful death.

I mentioned earlier that St Joseph is the patron saint of fathers and workers. He's also the

patron saint of a happy death. The story is that he's the first guy to have a happy death because he

died in the arms of Jesus and Mary. I can't help but get that image out of my head. I don't

think the concept of happy death even exists in the West at this point. Hopefully we'll bring it back.

But I feel like what you're describing so unfortunately is not even comprehensible to a lot of

people that don't even know what that means. They're very fearful of death and it's because we've

lost faith. I think in our society, I think that we rely on ourselves a lot. I think a lot of

those were so capable. That's the irony. Human beings are so flawed. You've basically got a

really corrupt system in America, which is on the left you have people that just want anarchy.

They want to give kids sex changes. They want the government to pay for it. They want to put you in

prison for having the wrong political beliefs. They want you canceled. But then on the right,

you have some of that stuff actually. But even worse, there's slaves to corporate America. There's

slaves to the industries and the institutions. It needs to change. One thing I wanted to share with

you, I was a 2021 Lincoln fellow at Claremont with Charlie Kirk. I got to know him a little bit.

There was it's like 12 people total. It's 10 days. We're in Las Vegas. Charlie didn't gamble or

drink and I lost all my money on the first day. I got to talk to him quite a bit. But there was

a fascinating discussion where he was debating with another girl, a woman named Robbie Smith,

who's one of the best people I've ever met. They were arguing about the lack of marriage and

family formation in America. Who was the blame? Men are women. And Robbie was saying it's obviously

the men. They're smoking pot. They're watching porn. They're all distracted. They don't want to get

married. I've got all these good girlfriends that want to get married. They can't find a guy.

Charlie said, no, no, no, it's the girl bosses. It's it's the women wanted to get college degrees

and putting off getting marriage. They don't want to get married. And Charlie turns to me and he says,

Terry, you're the guy that works on family policy. What do you think? And I have a bad answer.

And I hate the answer I gave him. But I said, you know, I think it's the men because,

biblically, men are the head of the household. So it's our job to win women over and to form our

households. The reality talker is that who's the blame in our society is our elites. Of course,

it's all of them. I mean, it's the elites in corporate America that set the HR policies that

after dobs pass or after dobs decision came down. Corporate America was tripping over itself

for abortion tourism. We'll pay for you in flight to go and your accommodations to go to

California to secure abortion. Well, freeze your eggs. What is that? Well, I'll tell you what it is.

It is corporate America saying, if these women have babies, they'll leave the workforce.

And there'll be fewer people. We'll have to pay people more money because there are fewer workers

in the workforce because if these women have babies, they'll become moms. And then they'll maybe

have another one. Then they'll have less time to be efficient and effective. And it's so

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the workforce, then men will once again make more than women and then people will get married.

And the cycle will harden because when women make more than men, they don't get married because

women don't want to marry men who make less than they do. Sorry. That's not an attack on women.

That's what women self-report in survey after survey after survey. So when women make more than

men, the marriage rate collapses, duh. That's what happened in black America. Now it's happened

in rural white America, but it's the same thing. Well, there's this interesting thing where

you look at communist China, right? In the 1950s, they instituted the one child policy and a bunch

of different programs that incentivize sterilization. Their birth rate in 1960, I think was 4.45 per

woman. By 1997, they got it down to 1.53 after coercive and harsh tyrannical policies that really

hurt and killed a lot of people. When the Brits gave up control of Hong Kong in 1987, the same year,

their fertility rate under the loving gazing eyes of the Western world, Hong Kong's birth rate

was at 1.13. With all the prosperity, right? That's that thing. And over that time, we have increased

efficiency by 90% across our industries. We're almost double as effective and efficient as we are,

as we were back in 1960. But more of our money goes towards the existential sub. It was 50% of your

income in the 1960s, went to your mortgage, your car, your insurance, all the things you need to

go low. Today, it's 80%. So we're more efficient. We're producing way more goods than we've ever

produced ever. But we're making less money. We need two incomes to make it in America today.

And people are buying homes with two incomes. So when you lose your job, you go into foreclosure.

This is all industry driven. Why do we allow people to buy homes with two with two incomes?

Why do you let it get a mortgage with two incomes? I don't. All that's done is it's jacked up the

price of housing in the good school district. Because there's only a few good school districts in

the country. And if there's, if the incomes have doubled, you're in a bidding war now. And we have

sacrificed our lives for business, for industry, for efficiency. And we're more miserable than ever.

But they love us back, don't you think? You know, I, we were talking about this in the car.

How committed is Apple to you and your family? Oh, they hate you. First of all,

yeah. Oh my gosh. The iPhone should be free. The iPhone should absolutely, they need the iPhone

to deliver all of their ads and their propaganda to you and to subvert everything you believe in.

Why do we have to pay $2,000 for an iPhone? That doesn't make any sense to me.

Two humilianists maybe? I'm just guessing. Yes. Yes. Is that what it costs?

That's $1,516 or something. For an iPhone? For the, for the most, the, the highest level one. Yeah,

I think so. I don't know. I don't buy them. I don't either. They sent them to me. I didn't know

that my office. I didn't, wow, is that really what they cost? I'm so out of it. Gosh, I wish I

didn't have one. So you're one of 10. You now are the father of eight. So I think you're in a

pretty good spot to describe what makes a good father. I think if you boil what becoming a father

is and what it means, it's self-sacrifice, which is love. Yeah, right? The Victor Hugo, author of

Les Mis, he said that you can give without loving, but you can't love without giving.

And I think the ultimate example of what a man is is priced on the cross.

Here's a guy that is literally giving up everything. And if you actually read the passion,

he's fighting all the way up until the final moment, right? These people are kicking him.

He's falling. He's been beaten and scorched. He's bleeding profusely. They ripped out. I mean,

I saw the episode where you were talking about that. And it had, it was way more impactful

than the passion. I'll tell you that. But you look at the passion of Christ. He was fighting and

struggling to get to Calvary the whole time. It was not a, it was a submission to God's will,

but he had to work for it. He had to push himself to get up every time and he did it for us.

That is what we're called to be as fathers, self-sacrificial. You never, I also think the

fathers are merciful, but they're just, right? So they are, they're, someone described this to me,

Pat Fagan, amazing guy who does a lot of pro-family policy. But he told me the difference between

the devil and Jesus, which is amazing. He said, you know, the devil always deviates from the law,

but he shows no mercy when you break the law. Christ never deviates from the law, but shows infinite

mercy when you apologize. And I think that's the rule of a father is to not stray from the law,

not stray from the rules, but be merciful to your gender, right? I think that they're,

you know, you hear horror stories about how some fathers behave, but I think if you're really

doing it right, you're spending a lot of one on one time with each other. I believe you're not,

even though I make kids, I make time for each one of them individually. And it doesn't have to be

hours at a time, but you can do a five, ten minute trip to seven, eleven, get some snacks,

your kids will open up to you. You get to, you have to have that one on one time with your kids,

but I would say that if you were to boil all down, it's sacrificing yourself for your children,

your wife. It is being merciful and it's also making sure your kids know the rules and don't make

these mistakes. Discipline, right? These are, these are the things that are the most important

thing when it comes to being a father. Well, you often hear people compare the West, America, Europe,

to Rome, clearly Western civilizations in decline. And at the same time, you hear another set of people

tell you that masculinity is the problem, toxic masculinity. And young people hear both of these

things and a lot of them become consumed by despair. Men are not irredeemable. Men can be stronger,

but you got to fix one thing before that happens, and that's fatherhood. No society without fathers

can continue. And that's why we made a new documentary on the topic, it's called Father's Wanted.

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time only on Tucker Carlson.com. How do you keep fathers from not breaking? I've seen it many,

many times where a father loses his job, he feels like a loser and then he starts behaving like a

loser. And then his wife and children are unimpressed and so he becomes even less impressive and

just like cycles out of life. Either literally or just falls apart with booze or other assorted

self-destructive activities. Well, I think we're seeing more and more of that too. Oh, yeah.

Embarrassing level actually. But the point of a system is what it produces, not what it says it

produces. And our system today is attacking men. You know, I work all the time in DC. We all we

do is pass laws and get people elected to help protect the family. That's what we do. And you

talk to people on Capitol Hill. You can't bring up all of the attacks on young boys in schools.

You can't bring up the attacks on young men and how difficult is because women have it worse.

Still they say that? Well, it's starting to change. No, it's absolutely starting to change. But

you're not, you really can't. There's no, the irony is is that there's a huge constituency

with the American people on this. But when you go to Washington DC, the politicians don't want to

hear about it. They definitely don't want to talk about it. Is that true? Name one now? Name,

name five politicians. Well, they used to say that women were just sure made grocers

screaming against in schools. Well, of course, women dominate schools completely from top to bottom.

They graduated a far higher rate at every level than boys do. They used to say, well,

women are paid a percentage of the male wage will women make more than men now. Nationally adjusted

as you know. And like so the data are in. Like this is not an argument we have to have. Boys

are falling behind not girls. And I've just been amazed that people in DC won't admit that.

It's, it's one of the last acceptable bigotries is against men. And it's because the news,

politicians everywhere in our culture, the, the movies, we just saw Paul Ehrlich just died.

Right? I was actually in the delivery room. It was a lot of fun. Oh, actually,

I was in the delivery room with the eighth child. When I found Paul Ehrlich when he passed. Yeah.

And you explained who Paul Ehrlich was for those who don't know. So Paul Ehrlich wrote this book

in 1968 called The Population Pomp. And he basically said that the whole world was going to collapse

if we didn't stop people from having kids. He was incredibly evil. China's one child policies.

He didn't go over and advise them. But they read his books. They use his course. He wanted to

sterilize people forcibly. He wanted to have paid tax incentives for people that did sterilize

themselves. He wanted to have limits on how many kids he supported forcing people to get licenses

before they could have children. Right? These, these are crazy ideas that I don't know why they

took off. But the irony about Paul Ehrlich is that he made all these predictions about devastation

and chaos in the world. If we didn't address the population, bomb, none of them came true.

Literally none of his ideas came true. The only one that got close to coming true actually was

he predicted that in 2000, the year 2000 that the UK would fall. That's like the closest he's

gotten. The UK is falling, by the way, but not because Britons are having too many kids. No,

no, it's the opposite. Right, of course. But Paul Ehrlich was an atrocious man. But one of the things

that he was very passionate about was his guidance for television and movies. If you depict a

family, they should be small. No big families and movies. How did Paul Ehrlich have the right to

advise filmmakers and TV producers on what their art should be? Everyone was scared of death.

They really bought it hookline and sinker and it's not new, Tucker. It's all so old. The idea that

people are pollution is so old. It's like kind of boring if you look throughout history. Sacrifice

your children to the gods in order to become happy and prosperous. That's a pretty old concept.

Well, there's one group. I actually, I have a joke for you. I'll try it out anyway. It's

two priests walk into a bar. One's a Jesuit. The other's a Dominican. They're debating about who

the best order is in terms of Catholic priests. The Jesuit says, well, we were founded by St.

Ignatius of Leola. We are the most academic, we're the smartest, and we were founded to combat

the Protestants. The Dominican priest says, well, I think we have you beat. We were founded by

St. Dominic who founded us to destroy the Alba Gensians. Who are the Alba Gensians?

When's the last time you heard of an Alba Gensian? They're like the Houthis. They've never

personally threatened many of them. Well, you would think so because you haven't heard of them,

but their ideas are everywhere. The Alba Gensians were a 12th century heretical cult of Christianity.

They basically believe that the soul was perfect and pure, but that the body and the physical

world were corrupted. They started punishing people for getting married. They started encouraging

people not to have children. The worst thing, anything pleasurable, if you enjoyed good food,

that was a sin for the Alba Gensians if you had sex with your wife. Having a baby was like the

biggest sin you could commit for the Alba Gensians because they were against marbles and SUVs too.

Yes. I know these people. They're worried about climate. Yes. Yes. But they thought the worst

thing you could do is trap a pure soul into a corrupted body like you're actually doing this.

And those ideas are still here. I see Alba Gensians everywhere in our society. Their ideas

have not died out. They've just taken different shapes. It's why these corporations are promoting

abortion and egg freezing. It's why states like California will take children from their parents

if the parents sort of firm their gender identity. The family precedes the state.

The family is the original community. It's the original society. There is no right to take

children away from from their parents unless there's actual serious abuse. But we see these ideas

everywhere and they've taken home. They've got obviously Thomas Malthus who believe that people

were pollution, Paul Ehrlich. These guys, their policies have been very, have been failures.

They've caused misery and chaos and suffering, but they've taken hold. All of our elite institutions,

all of our elite institutions have been pushing these policies on us. So these ideas shapeshift.

This is my read. All of these anti-human, anti-god ideas manifest as some slightly different

ideology depending on the period, whether it's the Alba Gensians or the Marxists or the green party.

All of those look anti kind of now, especially even the climate people sort of gave up on that

in exchange for building data centers. So data centers are incompatible with green politics

because they're such a massive energy draw. So you need all forms of like electrical generation

in order to power these data centers. But what's the point of the data centers? It's to create

something called artificial intelligence, which I'm beginning to wonder. I'm not against all I guess,

but I'm beginning to wonder if the agenda there is very different. I mean, it does seem like

replacing thinking with the judgment of a machine. How is that different from what you're describing?

I think it's very similar. At the heart of the entire AI industry is the belief that human beings

need AI. That they need some type of overlord above that way smarter that can process data.

Tucker, that is, that's I think the worst thing. So Francis Bacon was another guy that we've

discovered. And he basically believed he was the art of modern science or father of modern science.

But he basically believed that human beings could solve anything. That nature was actually meant for

us to completely alter and mess with. I think you're with me. I think nature exists. I think it

should be respected. There are there are rules. You shouldn't have sex outside of marriage. You

should be open to life. You you shouldn't steal. You shouldn't cheat. You shouldn't lie. But these

these guys want to change. You can't kill innocent. You can't sterilize innocent, right? The

they believe that they are their own gods. I had a Dominican priest to go back to the Dominicans.

When the whole sex changes for kids thing took off, I went to a very dark place. I just couldn't

believe that it was happening. And I kept seeing these pictures. And these stories are all horrific.

So I call my friend Tim from Francis University. He's a Dominican priest now. And I'm lamenting

all this. I can't believe they're sterilizing kids and they're meddling their bodies.

And he broke it down. He said, what we're dealing with right now with this issue is two things.

One, it's very, very old. And two, it's very, very new. The old is the garden of Eden. It is us

trying to become our own gods and shape all of, all of everything about us, even reject the,

the biological sex that God assigned to you, you know, that God gave you. But he said that the

new is the technology. You know, previous societies did not even understand hormone levels.

So we have these new technologies. And that is the Francis Bacon effect is the new technologies

in conquering nature and reshaping it to something darker, something that they can control and manipulate.

I don't think you can beat nature, can you? No, nature always wins. That's because God is real,

right? Like he, there was a designer for our universe and for our world and for humanity.

And he made these rules. And if you reject them, you're going to have a bad time.

Yeah, that's why I like bad weather because it reminds you of that.

Really, I mean, sort of doesn't matter what your ideology is. If you go out naked in a snow storm,

you're going to die because nature is more powerful than you. That's just a fact.

Yes. And you can, you know, change your sex, I guess, but you can't change the need to be

at 98.6 at all times before you die. So it's like it's such a great reminder. I wonder though

as it relates to fatherhood, like the description of a good father because fatherhood is part of

nature can't be that different from era to era, right? No matter what we, in the moment we're

living in, describe as a good father, there is a kind of absolute standard for good fatherhood.

There has to be because there is in the, in the natural world.

Yeah. And it hasn't changed. I mean, there are eternal truths. A good father has always provided

for his family. He's always protected them. And he's procreated. That's like a, you have to

procreate it, provide, become a father, protect, procreate and procreate and discipline and teach

rules, be merciful, teach your kids. You know, there's, there's a lot of new studies that have been

coming out for the last 10 years about fatherhood and how it impacts and shapes the individual

and how it impacts and shapes the kids. One thing that was very interesting to me was, it was

I think it was in a reason magazine of all places. They, they wrote about how fathers are actually

the ones that instill empathy in their children. And how they explain it was that fathers and men

are naturally concerned about themselves, like we're kind of in our own heads and we're always

thinking about what we need to do for our lives. And so like when your kid breaks your $400

drill, you're going down a lecturing them and saying, you know, hard ahead to work for that $400

drill, I can't believe you use it without buying permission. You know you're not supposed to do this.

We get kids to think about other people, whereas like the moms are always going to be like,

oh, don't worry about it. Your dad will just get another one. Don't feel that bad. So moms,

now moms build self esteem. Mom still play a pill to roll. There's a there's a use to

teaching your kids not to be suicidal. We're breaking a drill, right? But dads are the ones

instilling. It's so obvious. Women are more empathetic, of course. We think of them that way,

but societies in which there are very few fathers, matriarchal societies are far less empathetic,

far less empathetic than patriarchal societies. And you know that because they're like massively

high crime rates in all societies run by women. And those are way less empathetic societies.

Like that's the proof. Yes. And you know, I think largely of a friend that we lament women because

they're hard to understand. They're complicated. And he tells us funny joke. He said, you know

what the difference between complex and complicated is. And complex, a jet engine is complex. There's

all these intricate parts that all logically make sense and then work together, but it's complex.

So Rube Goldberg machine is complex. Yes. Yes. Women are complicated. Yes. That's right.

They're hard to understand, especially if you're a guy. But there's a whole nature that. And

I think that one of the ways that our elites have really screwed us over is convincing women that

having a career, having a good job is the basis of a good life and not becoming a mother.

Do women believe that, do you think? Yes. And actually just, you know, people who believe that?

I, yes. Oh, I mean, ask any woman who actually believe that, though, that that think that a

career is is the most important thing for a good life. Yes. A hundred percent. They don't

young people. A woman who believes that, who believes a career working at the bank.

Well, the elite AI start up. They'll at least say this is actually preferable to having a husband

who loves you, takes care of you and provides you children. I don't think there's a woman alive who

actually believes that. Well, a lot of people, there's a lot of lies in our society and people

that will stay alive themselves are the most powerful. Right. Right. And women today, I think they

all know deep down. They really would do better with a husband. They really would be happier

with the kid. Right. I think you know biologically with a husband that could provide.

Why do you want to go help Jeff Bezos make more money? Why do you want to go help Bill Gates make

more money? Why do you want to help all these super wealthy white billionaires make more money?

So you can be quote independent as you become totally dependent on a company that has no regard

for you at all as a person. Yes. Exactly. I'm so independent. I work at JP Morgan. I'm so

independent. Yes. Talker. The thing is so sad because these women are missing out. No, I don't

know. I don't know. I'm laughing. I'm laughing at the irony because everything is irony. But yeah,

no, if it's the tragedy of America, really. And you know, the egg freezing and the abortion

tourism, it's so evil because these women, my dad died with ten of us surrounding him.

That's beautiful. Right. You're going to have a lonely death. And how things are heading?

Tell you that. Are your orientation and investment banking now? Do they? No. I don't think there's

any encouragement to think through to the end. How does this end exactly by myself? No. In an assisted

living community where there's some, you know, foreign-born nurse, it doesn't know my name.

That's the end. That is the end, actually, for a lot of people. And we should tell them that

at the start. Like, how do you want this to end? That's a totally fair question, whether you're talking

about war or your own life. Like, what does this look like in the final stage? Well, I think if you

go back to the AI situation, a lot of speculation that AI is going to eliminate every single job and

will all be prospered. That's the lie they're telling us. We won't need to make money. We won't

need to work. Every machine will run our lives. Okay. Fine. Whatever. But we'll need to work. Oh,

that sounds fun. But let's imagine this scenario, though, where you don't have to work. Where you

you are living in heaven. You're going to have a family. You're going to have children. That is

the ideal. If you don't have all this noise around you. Well, I don't have to imagine how it works

because I grew up in trust fund world. So no exactly how it works. And it works where, you know,

you become an alcoholic sleep with the opair. You're reviled by your children and then you

shoot yourself. That's what a life of no working looks like. And then on the bottom end, the welfare

world, which is the mirror image of the trust fund world, it's the same. It's true despair because

a man needs work for meaning in his life. He protects and provides. That's where his sense of

himself comes. That's his duty. And if he doesn't achieve it, he hates himself. So like a world

without work is hell. It's not it's not advisable. I've seen it. But the the people that put

their careers first and that, you know, are going along with this lie because like, look,

they might not believe it, but they're doing it. Right. And they're living it. And what they're

missing out on the the work is the what? Right. It's what you do. The family is the why you get a job

and you work hard at it so that you can provide for your family. That the idea that you have a job

so that you can build a legacy for yourself is not right, not correct. It's not going to happen.

No one will remember you, especially the company you work for. The company that you work for,

if you're a woman that's is playing to never get married, that company is the day you die,

the day you leave the company, they are going to immediately start preparing to replace you.

Your children can't do that. Your children won't do that unless you're a bad mom or a bad dad.

No, but you're missing out on the eternal. You're missing out on the why when you say I need to

get a college degree and advanced college degree or I need to get a job. I need to put everything in my

life ahead of my family, family's not even advisable. It's a disaster. It's an absolute disaster.

Yeah. I mean, for sure, you work, see your way. If we'll be proud of you, just put it in one.

Your father works so hard. That's right. That's why I say grace at the table because I work so,

no, I mean, that's like, this is actually nature. I just feel like the program that we have sold

to young people in our country is so unnatural and bizarre and would make no sense to any so-called

backward country. They'd look at this and be like, what? I spent a lot of time in backward countries

and they do look at it like, what? Did it can't persist? You can't. We're fighting gravity here,

kind of. This is not the natural order at all. Well, so it's doomed. Well, I don't think it's

doomed. I don't think anything's ever doomed. No, but I mean, the lies that we're telling ourselves

currently, men and women are exactly the same. They occupy no unique role in the universe. They

just can sort of choose it. Working for Microsoft is more meaningful than having five children.

These are such obvious lies that don't they have to just crumble at some point?

I do think they're going to be crumbling here soon. It can't go on in much longer.

Now, even that you're saying this out loud, you couldn't, if you said this 10 years ago,

right? Yeah. Well, you weren't really, I don't think the crisis was as big of a deal or it wasn't

as apparent how urgent the family formation crisis was or that we were prioritizing putting women

in the workforce over family. I mean, I went to high, I was in high school from 2001 to 2005 and

family was a center of everyone's life. And maybe it was the part of the country I grew up. And

maybe the Quad Cities is just better than all these major cities or East Coast or West Coast stuff.

But family was very much the center of everyone's life. Like you and you learn that from talking

to people at the pizza shop. But one thing, one big change that I've noticed in our society is

public parks. Public parks are interesting because they're in major cities and spaces finite.

So when you decide to put an area up as a public park, you're basically telling people what your

top priorities are. 50, 60s, all that, when we had the massive expansion of parks

throughout our country over the last century up until recently, there were all kids parks.

When you say I'm going to go to the park, you immediately envision playgrounds and swings and

marrying around all of that. But today, if you go to the inner cities, dog parks are outranking

kid parks. The kid parks are empty. I went to a dog park and I talked to some of the people there.

And one girl I asked her, you know, how many dogs she has, she had two, but she's a dog walker.

I love dogs. By the way, I don't want to attack dogs. But the I talked to another guy. He said,

I asked him if he was ever planning to get married and having kids. He said, well, I've got all

these international weddings. I have to go to and that's not the main point. We're developing

all of these resources to dog runs and dog parks and not kid parks in Hong Kong. It's actually

a bit worse. In a way, the parks are actually for senior citizens. They're low impact exercise

machines like hip twisters and all that. And they don't have children. Their birth rate is like under,

I think it's under one, it's like 1.09 or something. It's devastating. But these people

either direct the money and the resources towards dogs or the elderly. If you look at federal

spending on welfare and entitlements, it's five to one welfare benefits going to people 65 and

up. We need to start reversing that back to young people and families to get them a more stable

life. We're setting, we're telling the world and our citizens what our priorities are every time

we build a dog park. I got to think so that your breakdown of federal spending, I do think it's

an indictment of a specific generation. I'm not going to name them boobers, but I think

that generation and the last year it was 1964 that you're after the Kennedy assassination,

they're on their way out. They're the youngest or 62, the oldest or 80. Once that generation,

which is completely destroyed in America, not all of them, but most, don't you think there will be

change? I think there will be a lot of change. These boobers have really screwed up our country

and they really hurt young people. The boobers are the most selfish generation ever. Before

or two is such a massive success. How did it give rise to that generation? They came back from the

war and had those people. I'm not, again, I'm totally very anti-Nazi, want to be clear. But if

that's the founding myth of our country that winning that war was such a win, then how did they

produce the baby boobers? Well, there's probably a lot of reasons. There's a lot of reasons, but

there's something really heavy going on there. How could you wreck it all with one generation?

I think that the greatest generation, the World War II generation, they went through the depression,

they went through a world war, some of them went through two world wars. I think they were

ready for prosperity. I think that they spoiled their children. I sat down with Bishop

Robert Barron, and he told the story of King David and one of his sons. So Absalon,

who killed his brother? He killed his brother. He tried to overthrow King David. As the king,

he rose up and that's what we're seeing. And then he got killed basically. But this is what we're

experiencing with the boobers is they are Absalom. They weren't disciplined. They didn't have to go

without, you know, my great grandmother helps being for a big family because the eldest,

I got to know my great grandmother. She was 64 when I was born. She lived another 31 years.

And the stories I would hear from her, I was always grateful, right? I think that greatest

generation, at least for me, instilled gratitude. And I don't know why it didn't translate to

their children because their children are only entitled. And you said it earlier, there's a lot

of good ones out there. But the majority, I think, are very self-centered. They were the generation

that gave us all of this nonsense. Oh, I know. I'm very worried. And they're sitting on all the

wealth. They're sitting on multiple homes. And here, let's go back to this. There are so many,

we give so much more resources, you know, in the big, beautiful bill. I liked most of it.

They give $6,000 checks to senior citizens. They don't need money. They have all the money. They

have all the homes. They're not selling them. It costs $750,000 in like, to get a town home in DC.

Families can't afford town homes or for families. They're for new families, actually. And

they're supposed to be affordable. But now they're $750,000 because the boomers aren't selling

their multiple homes. You know, in California, there's this interesting dynamic where there was a

lawsuit that was challenging whether or not you could do property tax freezes for senior citizens.

They were arguing the people that are challenging, we're saying this is age discrimination.

You can't allow them, give them a different set of rules than the rest of us. And the courts

obviously ruled in favor of the boomers because the judges are all boomers. But it's insane that we

are freezing property taxes for these boomers who got their homes for eight raspberries and a

blueberry in a horse. They've had so much appreciation and the value of their properties is skyrocketed.

Why do they get tax relief when working? The burden and the tax burden in the onus is all

on young families. And we need to start reversing this. If we don't start reversing this,

young people are not going to get married. Well, they're also going to get really,

really dark politics. And I interviewed Nick Fuentes, who I disagree with on a lot earlier this

year and was attacked for whatever. But one of the main reasons I wanted to talk to him was,

this guy's super popular. What is he saying? What is this? This is a totally different kind of

politics, completely different kind of politics than anything I've covered at 56. I'm just interested.

And one of the things I learned from the experience was younger people have totally different

politics. And by my standards as a middle-aged person, they're pretty radical. And how did that

happen? Well, it happened by taking away all their opportunity and then ignoring them when

they complained about it. So of course they ever. And by the way, my sense is that Nick Fuentes will

be considered pretty moderate very soon. So like, if you want a stable, moderate country,

you have to take care of people and give them opportunity. They're massive consequences for

behaving this way, I think. You want more fathers. You want more families. If you want to moderate

in politics, you want people that are serious about solutions to problems that actually are

willing to address problems. Yes. You want more fathers. You want more mothers. You want more

children and families because when you become a father, when you come a husband, you're thinking

long-term. That's so true. You're no longer thinking about today. Just the ballast in a ship.

Yes. It keeps it steady. Yes. Like, I'm a dad. I've got kids. Can't get too crazy because I've

got children. I mean, that's just like a baseline impulse, don't you think, in fathers? Yes.

These kids are being radicalized because they don't. Most of them are products of the divorce

generation. You have compounding dysfunction there. Not only did their parents divorce,

but their parents' parents' divorce. I went into my marriage under the belief that this is the

most sacred of all the agreements I'm ever going to sign in my life. I can sign contracts with

corporations. I can sign business deals, but this is the one I can never break. It has to come

before everything else. But this whole no-fall divorce situation basically said, no, your marriage

is actually the least important of all the agreements. The only agreement you can't break in

modern America is paying your credit card interest. I suggest, because I'm totally for not paying

your credit card interest. I think you should stiff city bank. That's my personal view and I've

suggested that before to conservatives. They're like, that's cruel. What? No, these people are

evil. I don't put the bank out of business. How about don't pay? They looked at me like I was a

freak, and that may be freaky. I'm not actually in real life suggesting that, though I kind of

am. But the same people are like, yeah, what didn't work out? I think I divorced. That just

tells you where the priorities are. It's immoral to stiff a bank, but it's okay to stiff your wife.

How does that work? What are those values? Well, it's obviously predatory. It's obviously not

treating the human person as a child of God. They're treating us like hogs in a machine. That's what

the elites and all the industries view us as is pieces to play on the field that can make our

products and do our services. They don't look at you as a dad. They don't look at you as a husband.

They want you back in the workforce for maximum efficiency. By the way,

you're reading all about these artificial wounds and egg freezing and IVF and all of that stuff.

I don't judge or attack anyone that's gone through IVF except if you buy a baby

as like a gay couple or something. I think that's really messed up.

But I think that makes you a conservative leader if you do that. You get a podcast. You get

to yell at other people, talk about conservatism, the Trump coalition.

Yeah. No, those are no. I know. Sorry, sorry. But it's the commodification of the human

person. And that is ultimately, I love your action. I kind of love it. I'm not endorsing it

specifically. I need to do more research into it. But not pay your credit cards. It sounds

like a great way to get these credit card companies to stop praying on. Well, my idea was like,

let's have a, hey, let's not pair credit card party. That's the only bullet point on the agenda

is we all agree not to pair credit. And just to negotiate terms, because Trump is always bragging

about how well, if you take a big enough loan from a bank, they have to negotiate with you.

The urine charge, because they're exposed, because it's just too much money.

Which I get, I'm not criticizing it. But why not create a union to do the same for the entire

public? Stop sending credit card solicitations to kids. Stop charging 20% interest. That should

be illegal. That's for day. That's user. That's the mafia. I used to go to jail and to

rico for that. But it's okay for city bank. That's all I said. And it was like, what?

I was like, Oh, I found the tender spot. Well, this is what really annoys me about Republicans. And

you know, they're so corporate center. They're so like free market centered. When Trump

mandated that like that credit card companies couldn't go over 10%. All these libertarian,

right wing think things sort of criticizing him as an enemy of the free market. If that's an

enemy of the free market, then consider me right because they're taking advantage of poor people.

Rich people don't really use credit cards. They pay them off every month. Of course. But the poor

people are the ones that pay the interest. And that's why we still have payday loans, dude. I mean,

and that the only kind of capital is they seem to really endorse is like sending tax dollars to

weapons companies. And I'm like, I'm a worst or something. If I'm not for that or a piece neck,

which I'm not, obviously, unlike, yeah. Anyway, don't don't even get me going. Okay. So let me just

let me end on this because I am more positive note. And it's about your dad and

because you clearly consider him a great father and you become a father of eight, which is

just amazing. God bless you. Thank you. What did you try question? But I think you probably

have a real answer. What did you learn from him? Like as you go about the business of raising eight

children, what do you, when do you think about your dad? Oh, that's a great question. I think

about a lot. I think about him every time I hold a new baby. You know, my dad, uh, this is

actually advice for anyone that becomes a father or is going to have another kid. If you're the dad,

you want you got to be in the delivery room and you got to look right one. You got to watch

that kid come out. And I know wild experience. Oh, it is, it is incredible. It is so euphoric.

But you're the first guy that gets to see that kid's face. Yeah. And you know,

your wife's going through all this hell like pushing this kid out or getting your stomach ripped open.

The least you can do to participate is to see your child come out, right? But that he,

he advised me on the first one. And I haven't ever looked away since. And it's such a special

experience. But um, I think working hard, my goodness, sacrificing yourself, accusing yourself,

and my dad, uh, and accusing your kids, I think it's okay to get kids your kids. And my dad,

because of his addiction, uh, he always was paranoid that one of us kids was a drug addict,

and uh, it's going to be paranoid. He one time, uh, my, you know, we work in a piece restaurant,

you get tips at the end when you clean off the tables and all that. Well, my brother is just

weird. And he keeps his dollar bills like rolled up. And I'll never forget my dad was like

topping it down and see if there's any coconut. And it's like, Dad, I'm not doing coke,

but that was actually him loving us, because he was thinking, well, I did crack. So it's not

impossible. I found a rolled up bill in one of my kids pockets. That would be the first thing I

would think. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously. And he was at the time you're offended. Like how could you

ever possibly leave? I know kids are so offended, but he was a crack addict. Uh, I think,

I think one of the benefits of having a crack addict as a father, like people hear that and

they're like, Oh my gosh, that must have been so terrible. I'm grateful for it. And it prepared

me for the world we live in today, which is like, Jen's ears are all being raised by these women

on and fetamines and SSRIs and, and Xanax and all of that. So it helps me relate to them and

actually connect with them, uh, to know what they're going through. And it helps me speak to them.

Um, do you think they have a sense that their parents are on drugs? Yeah.

I don't think the parents hide it. I mean, it's hard to hide these women. It's like a whole thing.

They compete. They brag about the drugs that they're on. The pharmaceuticals.

And you know, Tucker, I just want to say that the, the industries have monopolized our time so much

and taken over our lives that these poor women and men at this point have to take Adderall to

have the energy to do their job every day. But then they have to take the anti-anxiety medication

to combat that. And then they're taking all these other pills. You take a pill, then you have

to take pills to combat the side effects of it all. That is what these industries have done

through this fake concept known as the work life balance is they've monopolized our lives and

taken over where we need pharmaceutical drugs just to exist and be happy. Do you feel like change

is coming? Some type of change. I don't know if it's going to be good. Uh, but it, it seems pretty

dark. It seems very dark right now. You know, 40% of Jen's ears say they don't want to get married,

43% say they don't want to have kids. That's insane. That, that is not a sign for hope. Now,

I do think, you know, they have those other charts where I think there is some hope,

which show that liberals and progressives and, you know, these types, they're not having kids,

but the, the Christians are. I think that's a very good sign for our country. I just don't know if

it's in time. I hope it is. I think it, if times are going to get bad though, you want to have

kids, right? I think, I think one thing that we've really got wrong. That's your team, man.

That's it. That's, that's what matters. Christianity is what we're here for, right? If God actually

exists, then he's the full story. If you actually believe in God, you can't not believe that he's

the main character. He is the main character and we live by his rules. But if times are going to get

bad, you want to have kids. The Bible is very clear. Children are a blessing from the Lord,

right? They're a blessing from the Lord. Bless is a man whose Quiver is full. He will not be left

in shame as his enemy is at the gates. We need more kids. So I mean, we're going to keep going.

We're open to whatever God sends us because I don't think I have a right to tell God no, right?

If my wife gets pregnant, I think there was a divine hand in that. And he's saying we need,

you know, there's an old proverb. I forget who said it, but it feels every new baby born is a

sign from God that he wants the world to continue. He's sending his helpers. He's sending

his people that have different skill sets, different dispositions. And so we're going to keep taking

him. Who wouldn't want that? Who wouldn't want to like sit at the head of a big table and be the

patriarch. I don't understand that. That seems like the most basic desire of the male heart. I

thought that's what men did want. Well, I've always wanted that my whole life. I think dogs running

around, little conversations going on at the end of the beautiful. It's the best dude. It's the

bad. I mean, like what else is there? Yes. No matter room service or carnival cruises or weekends

in St. Bart's could approach the deep joy and satisfaction of sitting at the head of a table.

If you're descendants, it's like the greatest thing that's ever been doesn't I thought everybody

thought that what I think that the the issue is the single life, the unmarried life, the childless

life. It's very comfortable. It is fun. It is. You can do whatever you want. It's innocuous. It's

like we right. Weed seems to be like it's not a threat like it's not a big deal. But people will

go 40, 50 years smoking pot every day. And then by the time that time is over, they look back at

their life. They can't remember anything. They don't know what happened in their life. I've

smoked a lot of weed in my life. No, I hate drugs, but I have done it a lot and talk about aiming

low. Yes. That's what you want to not remember or something. Why wouldn't you want to sit at a

table with your descendants? I mean, that's just like, well, the single life is just as innocuous.

It is it doesn't seem threatening and actually seem you're told by every corner of our society,

by the elites, that being single and child free is actually prosperity is actually human flourishing.

So these people, these poor people have been lied to. They've been manipulated into serving the

state in their corporate masters. Man, that's the lamest thing to ever want. It is. It's

seriously. Thank you for this. Congratulations on child number eight. It's incredible.

I know that when people, I'm sure that they say caddy things to you when you got an airplane,

but deep down their envies. Thank you, doctor. Thank you.