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Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory. I'm Ken Rosenthal here with you

for the next half hour or so. It is only April 6th, only the early, early part of the season,

and yet what are we talking about already? Yes, ABS, yes, Conor Griffin, yes, a lot of things,

Joe Adele. But one of the key themes to emerge from the weekend was injuries. Got a ton of

injuries already, two big star players. Start off with Mookie Betts. Mookie Betts of Los Angeles Dodgers,

the shortstop, right oblique. Normally, it's four to six weeks for a right oblique. Dave Roberts is

hoping it will be less managers, coaches, players, always hope it will be less. We shall see the Dodgers

slowplay every recovery. We've seen that over the years. Why? Because the Dodgers put only so much

meaning into the regular season. Now, obviously, they want to win the division and they want to get

a buy in the first round, which they did not have last year. But the Mookie Betts injury coming

this early in the season should be one they are able to overcome. So what are they going to do?

They've got Miguel Rojas, who of course can play shorts. I've got his song, Kim, who can do

the same and they can actually put tune at that position. Maybe play Alex Freeland at second.

Each of these players can play either middle infield position. So obviously, the Dodgers will not be

as good without Mookie Betts who is hoping for a resurgent type season. It still might happen for him,

but it's not going to happen right away. Perhaps an even bigger injury in terms of what it

means for that player's team is Hunter Brown. And the right shoulder strain that he suffered

goes on the injured list Sunday, Chandler Roan reporting about this for the athletic. And he noted

that Hunter Brown threw 102 pitches on opening day. That was the most of any starter in the sport.

And he's a guy who also pitched on four days rest to start or at least on Tuesday.

And then last year made just five starts on four days rest. I'm sorry. Yeah, just five starts on

four days rest. So he was reasonably protected, you would think. He didn't pitch in the WBC.

Team USA wanted him, but he did not pitch. So he can't blame this on the WBC. But for an Astros team

that has made an effort, a strong effort to deepen its rotation over the course of the off season,

with in my, with the trade from Mike Burrows, with Ryan Weiss. This is still a blow. This is a guy who

finished third in the Saiyung voting in the American league last season, a legitimate ace in our sport.

Now, we don't have a diagnosis yet. We don't know or other than the right shoulder strain. We don't

have a timetable yet for Hunter Brown. But I would expect it's going to be some time before we see

him again on the mound for the Astros who have had a really good start to their season for the most

part so far offensively. They've been excellent. And they've got Josh Hader coming back as well

at some point. So ultimately as long as Brown is not lost for a significant length of time,

they should be okay. And they've got Spencer Arigetti ready to go and join their rotation.

So those were a couple of the injuries, but not the only ones. Alejandro Kirk, this is a big

one too. Premier Catcher in our game, a guy who means so much to the Toronto Blue Jays, he suffered

a fracture and dislocation in his thumb. He's going to be out for some time. And then the Blue Jays

also lost Addison Barger on Sunday. He had problems with both his ankles. It doesn't seem like

it's serious, but pitching injuries, Kirk, Barger, these are things that are seemingly mounting

for the Blue Jays. And obviously with Kirk, he's a guy that they rely on so much. And they've got

Tyler Hyman, they've got the kid they brought up from AAA, the prospect. But without Kirk,

there's something missing for sure. He does so much for them on the defensive side, mostly,

of course, the way he controls the game. But also he is emerged as an offensive force in, I don't

know, the last year or so. So that too is a big blow. And finally, we've got Juan Soto.

Now on that one, that seems to be the least significant of all these injuries I'm talking about.

It's a mild calf strain. It's expected that he'll be out a little bit, but it's not even certain

he's going on the injured list yet. The MRI came back, as I said, mild. Okay, good. Caves though are tricky.

And you don't know how this is going to go. Now the good news is the Mets without Juan Soto,

the last two days poured on some runs against San Francisco in San Francisco, tough part to hit

normally. And they looked pretty good. They had some things go right. Vientos had a big weekend.

They had Tyrone Taylor step up big. A lot of good things happen for the Mets in San Francisco.

So without Soto, they're still formidable. But of course, with Soto, they are a world series

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get your podcasts. All right, we resume now with the lead with our first segment and the other

thing I want to talk about today, at least at the start of the show, is the slow starts of several

teams, particularly in the AL East because yes, it's still crazy early and yes, with 12 teams

making the playoffs, it's never too late really in our sport to make it come back and

correct your season in the final six weeks. It's happened that way. It's happened in any number

of ways. But while the old adage, you can not win a pennant Napro, but you can lose one no longer

holds, not with expanded playoffs, it's still somewhat alarming. I'm sure two fans of the Red Sox

Orioles into a certain extent, the blue jays, mostly because of their injuries. What is happening

so far? And on top of all that, the way the Yankees are playing. Now, I don't expect the Yankees

are going to run away with the division, but the Red Sox certainly have been a huge disappointment

so far. Their offense has not done much at all. They're averaging barely three runs a game.

Ranger Suarez, two poor starts, their rotation has not been quite as good as advertised.

This is a team that right now just doesn't look like we thought the Red Sox might look. Now,

I've been worried about their offense. I've said that from their very beginning. You lose

Braggman, you lose Devers, you don't really replace them. And I'm not counting Wilson Contreras

as a replacement. You're putting a lot on their younger players. And let's see what Roman Anthony

said yesterday, Sunday, after their latest loss about their situation right now. He said,

we need to find a way to just bring more energy and just be better. This is unacceptable. It's

unacceptable to fans. It's unacceptable to the standard that we set for ourselves. So clearly,

a little bit of tension with the Red Sox right now. Not much different with the Orioles. In fact,

some of the same problems. They too are not hitting. They too are having some issues with their

rotation. Hasn't been spectacular by any stretch. Also, they haven't played well. They haven't

really played well defensively either. So the Orioles too had a big statement from their top player.

Yesterday, that was Peter Lanzo. When he came out and said this, we can do all the practice.

Take all the ground balls. Take all the swings in the cage. Take all the swings during our BP time.

Just because you put in the work doesn't necessarily guarantee execution. And it comes down to

individual efforts, concentration and execution. Okay. So those are the Red Sox and the Orioles.

Kind of trying to find their way in this early part of the season. Again, it is way early.

Too early for fans. The panic. Though I see them panicking all over social media. And too early,

in general, to make any judgments. But these teams clearly want to play better. I mentioned

Toronto. And they're in a similar kind of deal, but for different reasons. They too have not really

ignited yet. But they've got an entire starting rotation on the injured list. I'm talking about

Barrios, Bieber, Ponce. Yes, Savage. And even Bowdoin, Francis, you have to count him even

though he's out for the year. That's five starters. It's a problem for them. No question.

They also really haven't hit yet. Flat has. Andres Jimenez has Ernie Clement a little bit

Okamoto a little bit, but they haven't ignited as an offense yet. So the J's too have some work to do

and they've got the Dodgers coming up this week in Toronto World Series rematch. Finally,

one other team, not in the A L East, I want to talk about that is also struggled. This is the

team I wrote about on Friday. It's the San Francisco Giants. And I wrote Friday that for the Giants,

there's some pressure there. There's some urgency. They just fire their manager who had a 500

record, a three time manager of the year, Bob Melvin. We all understood it. They seem kind of

lethargic. He did at the end, but they hired Tony Vitella with the expectation that they're going

to be better. And ultimately, they might be better. But offensively too, here we go with the Giants.

Lowest scoring team in the majors. 26 runs in 10 games so far. That's an average of 2.6 runs per

game. I'm terrible at math, but that much I can figure out. So the Giants, I'm not quite sure

where they are just yet. And again, new manager, they're trying to find themselves. It's way

early. And their rotation should be okay. But we saw bullpen problems yesterday on Sunday.

And we've seen an offense that with some big names, Debra's Chapman arise, hasn't done much

at all. And Chapman, for errors this week, it's kind of interesting that that happened after

he aired out case, you smit on the mound the other day, telling me to catch the bleeping ball.

But Chapman did not have a great defensive week. The Giants have not played, especially solid

defense all around. So here's a team we'll be watching all year. And I know fans are saying, wow,

Tony Vitella news conferences, they're really cool. He says a lot of cool stuff. He does.

But if you don't win, all that is not so cool anymore. All right, we are going to be right back

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Time now for the inside dish, the part of the show where I talk about maybe a story of

written, maybe a trend in the game or maybe something really cool that happened over the weekend

and something really cool did happen over the weekend. We're talking of course about Joe Adele

and his three home run saving catches his three robberies that occurred Saturday night in Anaheim.

Now, I often talk about how I love covering major league debuts such as Conor Griffins.

That's one of my favorite things, one of my favorite parts about the job. The other part of the

job I love, I love lots of parts about the job, but another thing that I do love is when guys

were kind of down, make their careers go in a better way. They turn it around. Now, Joe Adele was

someone who was a top prospect in the game, 10th overall pick at a ballot high school in Louisville

in 2017. Top 10 prospect from baseball America in 2019 and 20, number 13 overall in 2021. This was

a big time guy and it took him some time and has taken him some time to find himself. If you

remember early in his career, defense was a real problem for him. He was a liability in the

outfield. Now, he improved to the point where in 2024, he was a gold glove finalist in right field.

Last year, he goes back to center because they put trout and right to start the season and in

center field, just was not good. He struggled again and ultimately, once he got back to right

field that the trout started de-aging more, he was better. So at the same time, in the middle of

that 2025 season, actually the entire season, he emerged offensively, 37 home runs, career best

778 OPS. But I don't know that any of us would say at this point in his career, Joe Adele has

fulfilled what people thought he might become. Saturday night, he was that guy and it was one of

the coolest things we will ever say and it also reminds us yet again that in this sport, unique

to this sport, in my opinion, you cannot know on any given day what crazy thing might happen

in any park across America. Now, I talked to Brady Anderson, the angel's hitting coach, about Adele

on Sunday. I exchanged text with him. I covered Brady for a long time in Baltimore.

Brady Anderson, if you remember, was an excellent defensive outfielder. Early in the 90s or so,

they had Brady Anderson, Mike DeVero, Steve Finley, three really good defenders out there.

They didn't stay together. They ultimately traded Finley for Glen Davis. He was part of that deal.

Finley, Pete Hornish and Kurt Schilling for Glen Davis did more counts so good. But we digress.

The point is, Brady Anderson is a guy who appreciates great outfield play because he was an outstanding

center fielder himself and he took a lot of pride in it. So when I asked him what he thought about

that and I'll read you what he said, he had a really interesting response. He said the first two

catches were very good, really good. You time your jump, it feels easy, but of course it doesn't

look easy. Those first two catches that Joe Adele made, I reclassify as standard fair home run

robberies if such a thing exists. Now, the other play, the one where he fell into the seats in

right field to Rob JP Crawford late in the game. And remember, this was a close game the entire

time. So any one of these catches could have made or would have did make the difference in the score.

The last play that's won in which he spilled into the stands. Brady Anderson said one of the best

I've seen on nearly impossible play. He did everything perfectly. He had to wear with all

to get behind the ball slightly, which is hard because the ball seemingly moves faster as you

approach foul territory at nearly full speed. I hadn't thought about that but think about it.

It's true. You're staying behind the ball and the ball's moving. Okay. Then Brady Anderson talked

about the best catch that he remembers seeing. And it was a catch going back to 1995. Kevin

Bass was with the Orioles. Ken Griffey Jr. was the spectacular centerfielder, the future hall of

Famer for the Seattle Mariners. And this was a game in which the bases were loaded. Randy Johnson

is on the mound for the Mariners, another future hall of Famer, May 1995. And Anderson said I had

a terrific view of it from the dugout, which was the field level in Seattle. And I saw Griffey tracking

it. And I sort of knew he could catch it, but I wasn't sure he would want to. He did want to.

And he broke his right wrist in the process. This was one of the great catches I can remember

seeing too. It was an amazing catch. And the key here and where we come back around to Joe Adele is

Brady said the catch by Joe gave me that same thrill of admiration of another's play.

Singular great plays are rightfully impressive. That game was an accomplishment. And that game

is something that not only angels fans will remember for a long time, but really all baseball fans.

And one more note on that third catch because it was mind blowing. And it was so cool when Joe

Adele ends up on his feet in the stance holding up the ball. Now people might ask, well, whoa,

why did that play get reviewed or not reviewed? Why did it end up after review being called a catch?

Because his legs were touching the wall when he caught the ball or they were at least aligned

with the wall. He was actually in play when he caught the ball. That's why the challenge by

the Mariners was over not overturned. It was not upheld. He simply caught the ball in the umpires

estimation and in the estimation of the replay reviews center in New York. Unbelievable play and

how about when he ends up in the stance stands up high fives a fan comes back into the field of play.

That was one of the great individual performances we'll ever see. And it happened on an April

night in a game that probably will be forgotten or would have been forgotten otherwise. So Joe Adele

early candidate for due to the week go question about that. And really just a memorable, memorable

performance. All right, we will be back after this. And ladies and gentlemen, the foul territory

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welcome bird land territory to the foul territory network. All right, we are back with one more

segment here on the show. And I'm going to talk about a column I wrote that we published today

in the athletic about Nico Horner and the contract he signed with the Cubs the extension six years

141 million some deferrals in there the net present value is about 137 and a half million. And I

wrote about how this contract would have been unthinkable 10 years ago for a player like this. And

even now the number of surprised people people thought wow Nico Horner a guy with 36 career

home runs is getting 141 million. Yes, he got 441 million and he got it for a couple of reasons.

One, of course, he is an outstanding player and he's a top defender and bass runner. He isn't

the slugger that you normally associate with big money, but he is an above average hitter

and has been. And the Cubs believe also that he can grow into maybe a little bit something more

offensively. Now beyond that and beyond the fact that he has tremendous makeup and his beloved

in that clubhouse, there are some circumstances working in his favor here. Obviously teams value

defense in a greater way than perhaps they did 10, 20 years ago. And in part they do that as

Craig counsel notes in the story because we are better able to measure defense. We have a more

accurate view of which players are the top defenders in the sport. And Nico Horner without question

at second base is one of the top defenders at any position in the sport. Some other things too.

The Cubs before signing Bregman and remember they've signed Alex Bregman, Peter Armstrong,

and Nico Horner in a span of three months. Three nine figure contracts span of nine months.

A team that we've criticized quite a bit for not spending enough suddenly they are. Why?

In part because their commitments for 27, 28, 29 were so low they had plenty of room to grow.

So with that they were going to have to spend on somebody. We're going to have to build a roster

for those particular years. And Nico Horner of the number of the many free agents that they have

on their roster this year from in half to James and Tyrone, to Matthew Boyd, to Sayya Suzuki,

to some of their relievers. A lot of potential free agents Carson Kelly is another one.

Nico Horner was the youngest of them or is the youngest of them and projects to be the best

of them in part because he is on the younger side. He's 29 next month. Also with regard to what is

going on in a greater sense in a more global sense with the sport. Collective bargaining agreement

expires December 1st. What happened the last time the Collective bargaining agreement expired?

This was in 2021. There was a mad rush right before the end of the CVA, right before the start of

the lockout. When teams were signing players and signing them frenetically, Corey Seagrugat paid.

Marcus Simeon got paid, Javier Baez, even Avassel Garcia got paid and a number of pictures did as

well. Max Scherzer was in that group. Nico Horner likely would have benefited from the same dynamic

and the Cubs knew this. The other part of that is the upcoming free agent market is not very good

at all. In fact, it wasn't even that good when Horner was going to be a part of it. From a position

player standpoint, we're talking about Boba Shed if he opts out, we're talking about jazz

Chisholm Jr. Sayya Suzuki. Really not a great group. The big free agent will be schoolable.

Freddie Peralta will be another big name, but those are pictures. On the position player side,

Horner would have been in considerable demand and in considerable demand as well because he plays

or can play shortstop. He is a very capable shortstop. He just happens to play second for the Cubs

because they have an excellent defender in Dan's B. Swanson. All of these things contributed to

the Cubs wanting to keep him, be needing to keep him and see having the wherewithal to keep him.

So it worked out great for Nico Horner. He got paid an average of 23.5 million per season.

Great job for him. Great job for the Cubs and they end up with the player who is homegrown.

Was the 24th overall pick in 2018. A guy you want in your organization for a long time.

All right, one more note before I go. I mentioned earlier the Blue Jays Dodger series that starts

tomorrow night at Rogers Center in Toronto. Fox is doing a pre-game show and post-game show and

carrying that game tomorrow. And I will be part of the pre-game show with Kevin Berkhardt.

I believe Dantro Willis is on that as well. We're going to have fun. We always do. We'll be talking

a lot of baseball. So I advise you to tune in on FS1 for that. Not Fox FS1. And I'll be seeing you then

and in addition, of course, I will be seeing you Thursday with our normal show with Alana Rizzo.

So I want to thank everyone for watching, for listening,

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and guess who the big guests are. Joe Adele is one of them. David Samson is the other.

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