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Grant Cohn and Tony Farmer give their biggest takeaways from the NFL Annual Meeting, plus much more.
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The NFL annual meetings are essentially over.
Here are our biggest takeaway.
What's up?
Welcome to Farmer's Market on a Tuesday.
I'm Grant Cohen.
That's Tony Farmer.
We're still in Arizona for the owners meetings, the NFL annual meeting, although it's essentially
over.
AFC coaches talk today, NFC was done yesterday, they had the reception last night, and we
got to hear from Kyle, from John and Jed on the same topics and we got different story.
We got different versions of the same story.
So we're going to go through what I thought were the biggest topics from this week, and
you guys are welcome to drop whatever you want in the chat box and the super chat.
And if you feel we missed anything.
I know you guys might might be tired of this one, but I think it's a good place to start.
The substation, it's nothing better.
They hired a guy, he did some research, he said it's nothing to worry about, microwaves
are more dangerous.
Forget the fact that grass doesn't grow by the substation.
What did you, and forget the fact that we don't get to know the guy's name or the specifics
of his finding, how impressed were you by this display of science?
Not very impressed, Grant.
I like you pointing out that we don't even know who this person's name is.
You're in a room full of reporters, and if a reporter wanted to follow up and just confirm
that what you're saying is true, they have no avenue to do that.
If you're not sharing who the scientist was, like, are you really an expert?
How did you really do this?
Exactly.
And Grant, my point here is that good science doesn't fear questions.
Good science doesn't fear transparency and psionic because the people who want to tell
us don't worry about the substation, it's not a big deal.
They like to use the line, oh, you're being anti-science, there's no good science.
We'll prove it now.
You supposedly have the good science that proves this isn't a concern, so we'll just let
us see it.
And the fact that they're not being transparent and not letting us see it is a concern.
But I have a question for you, Grant, because you were in the room using your poker abilities.
Did you get the sense that when this question and this topic was brought up, that they didn't
want to talk about it?
They're like, let's just move on to the next subject, did you get any sort of feeling
like that?
No, I got the sense that they were prepared for it.
Look, because you know, Jed brought it up at the Super Bowl, you know, radio row unprompted.
I think they are annoyed that this is a viral thing, and we already know how they feel
about it.
They think it's nonsense, they made that clear months ago, and they're trying to make
it go away.
They're trying to get out in front of it, I guess.
So they tried dismissing it, that didn't work.
So they brought in, they say they now have science behind it, but they won't let us confirm
it, which just makes me, I don't know, makes you suspicious.
I don't want to say that they're lying, but if they were really confident, they would
say here, please do call me the guy who did the research.
Yeah, it reminds me a little bit of, you know, sometimes I come on your show and you hit
me with these movie references that I don't get, because I haven't seen a movie, but
I'm guessing you've seen South Park.
Yes.
The cop in South Park, move along people, nothing here to see, move along, it feels like
that.
You can tell that they're, they're really keeping their fingers crossed.
Let's hope this goes away.
And again, my point is if you've got the good science to prove there's nothing here,
why are you so concerned and wanting this to go away so quickly?
And it seems obvious to me that it's like, it's such an expensive problem.
If they have, first of all, if they brought in 10 different scientists, I'm sure some
of them would, they would all have a difference of opinion.
So they got the one who agreed with them.
If they got one who didn't agree with them, like the one I interviewed on my channel,
I mean, how many millions of dollars would that cost them to either move the practice
facility or move the substation or acknowledge that it's been a problem and open yourself
up to potential lawsuits from players from the last 30 years.
It just seems like it can't happen.
Not to mention industry pressures, right?
They're corporate sponsors like PG&E, who admit electromagnetic frequency.
I know PG&E doesn't own that substation, but you also don't want to acknowledge that
this is causing a problem if you've got people paying you that produce that same problem
in neighborhoods across the country.
It's a real issue for them and you can see why they want it to go away in my opinion.
And here's a problem because I don't necessarily have a dog in the fight here.
Like I don't really understand the science.
I just feel like they don't either.
Um, yeah, I guess that's how I feel.
They don't really understand it either.
And they just want this to go away so poor so badly.
And great, great, great, you don't want to stay here.
You were more transparent with your research than them.
You brought a scientist on.
We know her name.
We know where her credentials are.
We know what school she went to.
You had an hour long conversation.
It's a problem that a reporter is digging into this and being more transparent in the organization
itself, which is responsible for the problem.
It's an issue.
Right.
Because I mean, I'd like to know like, is this just a scientist or is this someone who's
actually an expert on this, on these EMFs?
Right.
Because it could be a freaking dentist, you know, I'd like to hope that because the person
I interviewed really was an expert on this stuff, studied this stuff at Princeton.
So we don't know that at all.
Also, yeah, I'd like to know more about their actual expertise.
Yeah.
So we're all up questions asked and they just said, no, we don't want to answer that or
what we've actually said, ask the PR director after I leave.
We have more information.
If you want more information, ask Corey.
Or John leaves and we say, okay, Corey, what you got?
And he's like, here's what I'm seeing, kind of what John said, I was like, well, what's
the guy's name?
I'll be can't tell you that.
That's a classic trick.
Yeah.
It's unfortunate.
I mean, look, the substation might not be the biggest reason that the Niners have injury
issues.
We're going to talk about other things that they bring upon themselves, that lead to injuries.
It just seems like, I don't know.
And they said, here's what I wanted to say.
They took it a step farther.
I think we're basically saying in a polite way, like, do we really believe you?
They said that none of the free agents even brought up the substation.
That's what I wanted to say.
It's like, see, that I don't believe it doesn't sound, it doesn't sound plausible.
It seems like the agents job to bring it up.
So maybe the players in bringing up themselves, but that's what they have agents for.
And if you're going, I feel gaslighted there.
So if I feel gaslighted here, now I'm going to feel gaslighted there.
And I guess you could have avoided that by just being more transparent and not, and
don't maybe reaching out to more than one person, but I don't know, maybe that's enough
substation stuff for today.
I just feel like they thought that they coordinated, had a coordinated attack to kill the story.
And I still don't think they did.
They tried hard, but I don't, I mean, just, they're just one more injury away from people
being like, well, exactly.
I'd love to know who that scientist was because two star players get hurt in preseason.
And we're going to be talking about this again.
There's no doubt about it.
All right.
So maybe this is a bigger problem than the substation for the 90th, the Australia trip.
This is really interesting to me because when it comes to the substation, we heard like
some players express, not like concerns, but like questions, but nothing too serious.
The Australia trip.
I mean, Kyle Sandahan's flat out said they didn't want to do it.
He's like, he asked what the pros were.
And he says, I don't see any pro to the Australia trips.
He literally said that.
And then he started being, like, he started getting real sarcastic and he was like,
super, super fired up.
That was our goal to travel 19 hours to play an away game.
So that was his, I mean, it was like headlines.
Kyle Sandahan is like slamming the Niners week one game in Australia.
So that's the coaches take like, why are we going there?
It's a really long trip.
Our goal is supposed to be to win the Super Bowl, right?
This doesn't help.
It might make it tougher.
We're going to have to come back and play another game week two while we're jet lagged.
What the hell?
And it seems like he may be pointing the finger at Jed and the, the, the, the, the upper
ups like, yo, like this, is this what you wanted?
Two international games, one in Australia, you, and then you got Jed and, and, and
the upper ups saying, like, suck it up, dude.
Like we're going to send you on the nicest private jet in the world.
We're going to send you a week early.
It's going to be a once in a lifetime experience.
It's going to help grow the brand.
It's going to increase money for everyone, like, stop complaining.
So I can sort of see both sides.
I'm excited to go to Australia.
In that sense, I'm selfishly happy they're doing this.
What do you think of this whole Australia trip?
So from a fan, it's great, whether you're going or not, you know, to be able to have a
game before the week one Sunday in a prime spot, prime time spot, stand alone, watch
your team a great matchup, by the way.
What a great game that's going to be to open the season for the, for a fan that's
rooting for your team to win.
It's not a good thing.
It's, it's the hot potato that nobody wants.
It's like when hard knocks comes out, no, no organization wants that.
It's a distraction.
It's bad for your team.
It's not going to help you win.
And it's maybe you could argue good for some fans, but it's not good for the
success of the team.
If for no other reason, Grant, let's put aside whether it is going to hurt them this
season and those miles are going to hurt them down the road, jet lag and all
that stuff, just this negativity around the team.
You've got your head coach saying this.
He's not the only one, though.
Didn't Christian McCaffrey say something a couple of weeks ago?
He wasn't in love with the idea.
Have we heard one player come out and say that they actually liked the idea?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I haven't, is it all negative so far?
I haven't.
Yeah, I haven't heard one person.
I heard Jed said he liked the idea.
Billionaires like the idea, the ones who are like the idea, but the people who
get to go and not play football love the idea.
I that's pretty consistent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you know, injuries are a problem.
Grant is being up on an airplane when you're nursing an injury for, I don't
know how long that flight is 18 hours or whatever.
Is that great?
When you're a little stiff and you can't move your legs and stuff like that?
Like, and if the Niners have a rash of injuries and weeks, two, three, and
four, is it because of the substation or is it because of Melbourne?
Right.
Because of 19 hour flights twice are both why are you when you have an injury
problem?
Why are you doing that might hurt your injury problem a little bit more?
Not good.
Yeah.
Layers of concerns here, not good.
And it feels once again, Jed York is tone deaf, just like he was with the
substation issue when that came out.
Like saying things that were opposing what his players were saying.
We're now seeing a pattern of players not liking things or at least softly
voicing.
They don't like things.
And Jed York coming out 180 degrees opposite of that.
And basically contradicting them.
And that's not a good look.
It makes it feel like you're at a touch with your players.
I think this Australia thing kind of reveals a difference between Kyle and
Jed.
I think Kyle really wants to win a Super Bowl.
Can he?
Well, I don't know, but I think he sincerely wants to win a Super Bowl.
I don't think he has any side quest in his life other than winning a Super Bowl.
That's what he's in it for.
Jed on another isn't necessarily the same.
I mean, I think he wants to be in on the quest for a Super Bowl.
He wants to be in the mix and he feels like maybe it'll work itself out.
Maybe he's had some bad luck, which is why he hasn't won yet.
But like he also wants to make money.
And he wants to do side quests with, you know, debarital industries and soccer and
whatever.
And I think he feels like, you know, this helps his profile.
Like this makes the Niners a marquee franchise, whether or not they win a Super Bowl.
Like they're the team week one in Australia.
They're the team in Mexico City.
They're the ones that are being talking about.
And I think I think that's really Jed's goal.
As long as they're marquee and profitable and their profit margins are going up,
then that's success for him.
And I think for Kyle, it's like, well, that's all that's great, man.
But if that's going to actually hurt our chances for winning a Super Bowl, isn't that bad?
Like isn't that the number one goal?
So to me, I think they have different number one goals.
Does Jed want to win?
Yeah.
But his number one goal is to build the brand of 49ers industries.
What you just said about Jed, you're maybe he doesn't want, maybe maybe winning isn't his
number one motivation has been said.
Like he doesn't want to lose.
He can't be a razor franchise, right?
But like, right, he doesn't have to be the best.
He can be one of the best with injury excuses or whatever.
Yeah, that that has been said in a similar fashion about Jerry Jones and Dallas.
And that's a stereotype about Jerry Jones and people back that up.
He's more of a businessman than a sportsman, right?
Yes, yes.
Look at that.
He's tired a little bit like, man, I love sports, but I also love soccer and I also love
this and like, look at our whole, look at how much money we've made.
And look at how much this, the value of this is risen.
It's like, I mean, I kind of, I respect it, but I kind of don't care because it's sports
and all we really recognize or wins and losses and championships and no championships.
So why does Jerry Jones, why, why do people say that all the time about Jerry Jones,
not just Cowboys fans, national, you know, broadcasters, fans, that is a known stereotype.
But why doesn't Jed yet have that same thing said about him?
I guess it's because the 49ers are getting close at least.
And if he was taking the same actions and the 49ers consistently had losing records year after year.
Well, because he has Kyle, he has Kyle.
And I think Kyle gets him a lot of credibility.
Whereas Jerry, who of his coaches been the last 30 years?
It's a good point Jason Garrett and this stiff after that stiff.
It seems like he can't even bring in, right?
But but Jed has Kyle and that makes Jed seem like he's all about winning Super Bulls.
But then this Australia trip comes up and it's like, well, Kyle's freaking pissed about it.
And Jed seems to be like, I don't care.
And I think that really does reveal his inner Jerry Jones nature, which again,
it's not the worst thing to be bothered to be Jerry Jones than Mark Davis.
He's not Mark Davis, but it's the same question, man.
Like you've made a lot of money in this industry.
You've realized that you can make a freaking fortune without winning a championship.
Has that taken away your drive to win the championship?
Or are you saying like, you know what?
I can make a bunch of money not winning a championship with leaves.
And I can make a bunch of money not winning a championship with Rangers is crazy.
You know, all we have to do is be on a quest.
Yeah, you bring up a good point about Kyle kind of masking this for him because
let's remember what Jed did before Kyle was there.
He let John Jim Harball walk out the door for Jim Tom Sula.
That's a Jerry Jones move to me.
Let's get a, let's get a head coach that I can work with and that I can bully around and
make all the decisions.
You know what I'm saying?
That's it, but isn't necessarily my best chance of winning.
That's a Jerry Jones move.
And then Kyle comes in and people aren't talking about this quite as much.
I'm with you.
I think we should be questioning this and maybe we're wrong.
This is speculation.
Maybe we're wrong, but we should at least be having a conversation.
And again, this is interesting about the future like for Kyle's future.
I mean, he said he wants to be with the 49ers for a long time.
I mean, he wants to keep coaching.
He loves being with the Niners.
Jed was like, I don't even know how much time he has left on his contract.
Yeah, I want him.
He's been here a long time.
He kind of decides what what he wants to do.
I'm at some point if he's like, you know what, man?
My owner's cool like he pays for stuff and he wants to be
one of the top franchises, but he's he's doing things
that get in the way of us winning a Super Bowl.
And I'm tired of it and I'm talking to him about it.
And I'm like, man, you're supposed to be the one that goes to the league and says,
we don't, it's not fair to give us two international games.
And here's another thing about the Australia, I want to talk about the Australia trip.
It's so interesting to me because I wasn't thinking about it.
And then hearing them squabble, I'm like, oh, we need to really focus on this.
What are you really accomplishing in Australia, man?
It's so far away.
There aren't that many people there.
You really think you're going to have this like you're just going to create
this huge football fan base in Australia.
You've been trying it in the UK for like 10 years.
No one gives a fly and fuck about football in the U.
Darts is more darts is more popular in England than American football.
It just is like what?
Yeah, it just just feel like a vanity project for billionaires that don't
that have kind of lost the plot a little bit, man.
Like, why don't you just just bow in the base and home and win in the Super Bowl?
That'll take care of your global brand aspirations.
Yeah, it feels like jet bowing to the commissioner and the point that you bring up
about there being some tension between maybe the head coach and maybe the owner
some speculation there.
If that's true, that tension grows when you keep coming this close to winning a
Super Bowl grant because when you come within this close of winning a Super Bowl,
you start question, well, what could we have done differently?
What was that little thing that could have got us over the top?
Hey, maybe it was not having a substation next door that maybe injured our players.
Maybe it was having a better training staff.
Maybe we hadn't had a week one game in Australia.
Maybe, hey, maybe if we had spent a little more money last off season,
we would have had enough to get bicell and withstand those injuries that we had.
Yeah, and that's Kyle's perspective.
Maybe from Jets perspective, like, hey, maybe if you were better coach and stop
makes somebody excuses, maybe you didn't stop running the ball in the second half
for those Super Bowls.
I wonder, because I usually feel like when a team blows it like that,
the whole organization isn't necessarily on the same page about why they blew it.
I use more, kind of like privately, like,
yep.
And there is a lot of fault to point out with Shanahan and Lynch.
We could talk about drafting mistakes they've made for two hours, probably.
You know, there's a lot.
Hey, blocking Billy's best pass rusher with your tight end,
getting your quarterback hurt in the playoffs.
There's a lot of.
I just worried that the Niners as an organization kind of have resigned
in the fact that they're not going to win a Super Bowl.
It's like, look, we're good, but we're kind of old.
And, you know, from Jets perspective, like, I don't know if,
I don't know if our coach has work or quarterback has what it takes to really,
I think they know Brock for what he is.
They like Brock, but it's like, man, we've seen four years of Brock.
Is he really a future home fame quarterback?
Like, no, not yet.
So I think that's like, look, we're in the mix, but we're going to need
some really good luck to win a Super Bowl, probably.
And we haven't had that good luck.
So instead of crying about it, we'll just, you know, call this success.
We'll call consistency success.
And I wonder if like everyone kind of understands that they're in like a
weird position right now.
Like, you know, you're going to make the playoffs most likely.
You might even want to play off game, but you're not seriously a Super Bowl
contender and, um, I don't know, you might not be for a while.
You might, like, you might, I might not even be the goal for the ownership anymore.
It's like, are we going to do whatever it is to be the best in the NFL?
Not necessarily because we also want to be like one of the, we also want to be
competitive in the English Premier League.
And we have to balance all of that.
So we're like, you know, like, that's why we're going to go get Christian Kirk
and Mike Edmond, but these, these are great value signings.
They're great values and it could work out.
But the reason they're cheap is because they got freaking injured last year and
they're old. So that's how we're doing business.
It's funny how Jed York decides what to be honest about because that's at least
given credit. He was being honest when he talked about I can't 100% focus on the 49ers.
He could have given a BS answer and been like, no, 100% of my effort.
And then he goes talk to the leads reporters and he says the same thing.
100% of my effort is with this soccer team.
I'm going to distract another 49ers.
He could have done that, but it's weird.
They're like, he's honest about that.
And he didn't need to be and he's seemingly not so honest about some other
issues, substation, et cetera.
But you brought a Brock Purti, great.
Let me say this real quick.
I think I'm probably a little warmer on Brock Purti than you.
I think there is a chance that he can get back to that MVP potential.
Hall of Famers way too early to even be talking like that.
But I think I probably like Brock as a whole little more than you.
But here's an interesting stat about Brock Purti.
You remember that game against the Ravens when Mike McDonald was a defensive
coordinator on the other side on Christmas day, where he threw four
interceptions coming into that game.
Brock had thrown 29 touchdowns and seven interceptions.
That's pretty darn good.
Since then his record was incredible too.
Right.
He went.
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely since then again, 29 and seven coming in.
Since then 44 touchdowns, 29 interceptions.
It's almost like Mike McDonald showed the league a blueprint on how to beat
Brock and Brock has it.
He did.
No, it's not like he almost he did in what you what you do with Brock,
even though he's known as like the ultimate processor, you got to take away his
first read because he what he'll do after that is kind of erratic.
Like he'll hold the ball.
He'll he'll force plays.
He'll make plays.
But those are when the interceptions come is when you take away the first
read and make him really go through his progressions or see the field or get
out of the pocket, switch you.
That's what they do.
He's never rocking and firing against Seattle.
He always has to hitch, hitch and find someone else and it's bad.
Now, maybe if he had better players, it wouldn't be as bad.
But like offensive line.
I mean, if what you're saying is the problem is the problem, give him a better
offensive line.
And then now when his first guys covered up, he's got more time to look for his
second read, etc.
Right.
What an unfortunate chain of events for the 49ers that Mike McDonald may have
been the guy to find the secret to beating Brock party.
Now he's in your division and you've got to face him twice a year.
Not only that, there's two times as much tape every year,
being shown how to beat Brock party.
This is a problem for them.
I just want to point out that this has happened to pretty much every quote,
unquote, franchise quarterback, the Yorks have had cappernick, Jimmy and Brock.
They've all been different quarterbacks.
But what they had in common was an incredible start to their career with the 49ers.
A ton of wins, a quick run to the Super Bowl, a heartbreaking loss,
where you're like, man, they really should have won that game.
And then a pretty consistent slide after that in different ways.
But I mean, is Brock really going to go to a second Super Bowl?
We kind of thought that Jimmy might or that cappernick might.
And I think it's one of the things Jed could say is like, look, we,
yeah, we lost Super Bowls and that sucks.
But we went to three with three different quarterbacks and two different
coaches, not a lot of franchises can say that.
I mean, it's heartbreaking that they lost the way they did.
But like in his like lowered expectations, model of success, that's something.
You know, I mean, that's something to hang your hat on.
And it makes him feel like, you know, what we can do it again, even if it's not Brock,
like if Brock turns out to be a flash in the pan, the way that cappern, Jimmy,
where like, well, maybe we go back with Mac or someone who isn't even on the team yet,
because that's sort of who this York regime has been.
When you said lowered expectations, was it mad?
I mean, it had to have expectations.
All right, interview your saying.
I went out there to make that with a picture of Jed lowered expectations.
Oh, that'd be so good.
That'd be so good.
That TV.
That TV was one of them.
All right, Christian McCaffrey's huge.
This was interesting Kyle Sandahan, he was great with the media.
He's been really good for a while now, for at least a year.
And he was like, you know, I really wish I had used Jordan James more last
year. I wanted to take Christian McCaffrey off the field.
I just felt that when he was off the field, I wasn't even aware of it some of the time.
And I'd be calling plays that rely on him, even if he doesn't get the ball,
because he's like such a good receiver.
And it doesn't work if he's not in the game.
So he's like, we got to get someone to help Christian, which almost makes you feel
like he feels like that player isn't on the team.
Got to get someone.
Is it Jordan James?
It's not Isaac Rendo, apparently.
That's why they brought in Brian Robinson, Jr.
They were unhappy with him because he doesn't have that.
So like, it is this mean that Kyle's actually telling us he's going to use the
most expensive running back in the league less, or is this him sort of like playing
40 chess and saying like, hey, Jed, you got to get me, I want you to spend more
money.
And I want you to get me another running back with a similar skill set as Christian
McCaffrey so that I can preserve this guy.
That's what I want from you.
Spend more money.
What do you think?
I think there's a couple of things happening here.
I think one, it's a little bit of a wake up call to those young running backs
on the roster, who can be working a little harder in the off season.
It can be focusing a little bit more on the off season or he wants more out of them.
So I think that's going on.
But when when I first heard this from this meeting that you were at grant,
I said to myself, am I going crazy?
Or did I hear the same exact thing from Kyle Shanahan last year?
So I went on Google and I Googled Kyle Shanahan Christian McCaffrey workload
for 2024.
And I got some headlines here.
49ers Kyle Shanahan hopes to reduce Christian McCaffrey's workload next season.
In June of 2024, Grant, July, 2024, NFL dot com Kyle Shanahan
on McCaffrey's usage in the 49ers offense.
We have to protect Christian from himself.
Oh, no, same exact thing last off season and gave him 450 touches
when you include the playoff touches.
So don't believe him when he says we need to protect him from himself.
But here's the thing though, I feel like if he, if he's bullshitting us and he really
intends to do the same thing this year that he had last year, I hate to be, I mean, dark,
but Christian's going to get hurt.
He's not going to stay healthy two years in a row playing like that at his age.
He won't.
So if you do that, then that just means you're going to be playing.
Then Jordan James get 200 carries this year.
Once Christian goes down week two, unless they got Jordan James on my, on my dynasty team.
So I'm just saying Kyle, make my day, they might draft someone.
What I find interesting though, Grant, about Kyle Shanahan, I say he's addicted to Christian
McCaffrey.
He's dependent on him, but it's weird.
He shouldn't be like he talks about like his reasoning is, hey, he makes a big difference
in the past game.
Like Kyle Shanahan, you're the genius play caller.
It's like, it's like, why do you need that cheat code?
Which isn't even a cheat code anymore.
It's like the sea hogs just want a Super Bowl with freaking Kenneth Walker as they're running
back. He's not a threat as a receiver.
I mean, most teams don't have receiving threats out of the backfield.
And it seemed like you overuse him in no world.
So the running back, ever be your leading receiver ever.
And he was last year as a big problem.
You don't need it.
It's, it's like a really attractive woman who thinks she needs a boob job.
And she doesn't because she's insecure.
Kyle thinks he needs Christian McCaffrey to be successful.
You don't need him.
You are a genius play caller.
Get creative.
Come on.
You don't need a boob job, Kyle is what Tony's trying to say.
That's, that's my point.
That's basically his point.
Yeah, it's really, I guess I shouldn't buy this.
I mean, they're paying Christian McCaffrey so much money.
The plan wasn't to give him that and then dial back the uses.
I mean, they're going to, again, we lived, we lived through the Mike Shanahan era.
If you're watching and you're 27 or younger, you may not remember Mike Shanahan,
but what he was essentially famous for was running his running backs into the ground.
Terrell Davis, look at his career.
It was, it was no conscience with the way they used Terrell Davis every year.
And then he tore his ACL back in like, you know, the late 90s when that was a
death sentence for your career and I was over.
But it wasn't like, hey, man, you know, we've given this guy 400 carries three years
in a row.
Like maybe, maybe we'll take it.
Nope, nope, nope.
And I bet you to this day, Mike Shanahan doesn't regret it.
And he's like, you know, trying to win games.
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Mike has that reputation of driving his running backs into the ground.
Kyle's got a little reputation of driving quarterbacks into the ground.
Yeah.
And then there's the relationship with Brandon Ayuk.
This is so interesting to me.
The Niners are adamant that they're not going to cut him, which makes me wonder
like, what do you know?
And what kind of conversations that you had with the Washington commanders?
That used to be Kyle Shanahan's nemesis.
He hated that franchise.
He worked there.
He was Dan Snyder.
They had beef, but he's gone.
It's a whole new ownership group.
And the GM there is Adam Peters, who is Kyle's friend.
I mean, like, they're buddies.
That's like, that's Niners, what East now?
And the Niners have pretty much said, like, we're not cutting this man.
He's good.
Washington could give us something.
And remember, last year, the Niners panicked traded for Brian Robinson,
Jr., right before the season started and give up a sixth.
I mean, I would imagine they'd like that sixth back.
I'm trying.
I feel like what they're saying to Adam is like, look, man, you're not,
you're not going to embarrass us here.
We've embarrassed ourselves enough with the brand and I you think you got to give
us something for old times sake.
And we'll give you, we'll give you a really nice bottle of burp.
We will make it worth your while, but you got to give us a conditional
something for Brandon so we can save face here.
And I kind of feel like Adam Peters is going to help him save face,
but I don't have any tangible evidence.
What do you think about this brand and I you stuff?
Do you think they're going to cut them and let them walk to Washington?
Or do you think Washington is going to help the Niners out?
I think ultimately they're going to cut them.
They're just going to wait until the very last minute, probably out of spite.
I can't prove it, but that's what my gut tells me is going to happen.
Interesting theory, you're reminding me of that connection with Adam Peters.
And I suppose that, you know, that's certainly possible.
But what are they going to get realistically?
Especially with, I mean, that contract that I you signed was a thing.
I just say something real quick because I was at the reception last night at the NFL
annual meeting and you're not supposed to report on what people said.
So I'm not saying anything about what people said, but I did notice.
Can I say, I noticed that Adam Peters and Kyle Shanahan hung out like the whole
night. I'm just all I'm going to say, it's all I'm to say, it's all I'm
to say, I know what maybe they were talking about golf or fishing.
But all I want to say is a last year, I took a flight with that
happened to have Pete Carol on it with John Schneider.
I was it was Alaska air from Seattle to Indianapolis for the combine.
I'm sitting there and I and Pete Carol was sitting coach because the
Raiders of cheap as hell and he walked up into first class to talk to John Schneider.
His former boss and they were just talking for like an hour and a half and
the flight crew let Pete Carol stand there.
It was crazy.
They must have known who he was and I tweeted like, this is crazy.
I bet you Pete Carol is trying to trade for Geno Smith and a week later,
they traded for Geno Smith.
So I'm like, boom.
So I saw I saw Adam Peters and Kyle hanging out like the whole night.
And I'm thinking that trade is agreed to in principle.
And it's going to be announced in like six days.
But I don't know that's what I thought man.
We'll see.
That's that's your intuition talking about cooking.
But I was like, hey, where's John Lynch, man?
How come you aren't hanging out with Dan Quinn?
And how come you aren't hanging out with John Lynch?
What is this?
How are you guys going to even you guys are colleagues anymore?
You guys are co-workers anymore?
I think you're on to see it.
I saved it.
I think you're on to something and we got it on tape now.
So if it happens, these are the receipts from your phone.
And I walked over to my like friend who covers the Pittsburgh Steelers for SI.
And I was like, dude, this is what I saw.
And I'm like, I think I think that Kyle might
leave the Niners for the commanders.
I was like, dude, you're stupid.
They're going to trade IU.
I was like, oh, right.
That would make a lot of parts sense.
Good point.
I was like, man, he's going to leave the Niners for Washington.
Well, they're going to trade Brandon.
Oh, there it is.
There it is.
Or not.
Maybe they just really good great friends.
But that's what that was my take.
The Niners basically, when they're saying we're not going to cut them,
we're going to, we can't, we got to get so it almost feels like they've been
having the conversation with Adam Peters.
They've been led to believe that they're going to be able to work something
out.
It'd be really funny if at the last minute, Adam was like, sorry, can't do it.
We're signing John Jennings.
We're going to be the ultimate f you.
Sorry.
But it's funny how people want to maintain relationships because you never know
where you're going to be working in three years.
Adam is the GM of the commanders now, but just came off pretty bad year.
If he has another bad year, I mean,
say he could easily get fired in place by someone else who has a better vision
for how to win with Jayden Daniels.
And then Peters could be coming back and replacing John.
I mean, you never know.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So true.
So true.
All right.
Let's talk.
Let's talk John Lynch's future.
This was an interesting thing.
Jed York was asked about John Lynch and Kyle, maybe give them extension soon.
And John, a jet was like real.
Cool about it.
Like there were so many things he didn't know yesterday.
I didn't know Christian Kirk guy sign.
He's like, I don't even know how much time they have left on their extensions.
So he said, it's really what do those guys want to do, right?
When you sit down and have conversations after 10 years, like, where do you want to be?
What is your life like?
And how do you see it?
And do you want to re up to be part of the Niners?
Do you want to do something else in our organization in a different place?
I don't know the answer, but I have a great relationship with both of those guys.
So when he said, do you want to re up to be part of the Niners?
To me, that's the question for Kyle.
And then when he says, do you want to do something else in our organization in a different place?
Like, that's not for Kyle.
Kyle wouldn't want it.
That's for John.
Do you want to, if you're not the GM anymore, would you like to be?
Call it whatever you want, senior advisor, vice president, executive.
It sounds good, but you're no longer the GM because you suck at drafting.
And now that we're spending all this money on Brock and other people who make most of the cap space,
we have to be good at drafting.
And so we're going to promote Quessie or bring back Peters or you bring in someone else.
But you can stay here if you want.
What do you think?
All right.
Lies is in store for John Lynch.
All right.
You said that that message had to be for John and not for Kyle.
But what if it's for both of them?
What else in the organization?
No, seriously, what if John gets another opportunity in a different spot?
And Kyle becomes head coach and GM officially.
Well, he kind of just the GM, I mean, I don't want to coach anymore.
No, but he said, I want to coach.
He really does seem like the kind of guy who would want to do this job into his 70s.
Like he's a coach is coach.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, but I could say that's a real word out and just be like, you know what?
I'm going to be John Gruden and go on TV and just call everyone the greatest.
He could do it, but I don't think he's going to do it.
No, I think he'd be great on TV.
He was great during the last Super Bowl.
He's smart.
He has a sense of humor.
He has insight.
He's good to pull it off.
I see why those folks want him, but I agree with you.
I think he's going to be coaching for a long time.
But I do see a scenario where Kyle becomes a coach GM.
Like I said, he sort of unofficially is doing it now.
We don't really know how the decision making process is fully broken down between him and John.
But there have been several missteps in the drafts.
We've seen the Trayland situation.
I get the feeling Kyle wanted Mac Jones.
I can't prove it.
Yeah, he had trading up for Joe Williams.
That one seemed a little more Kyle, right?
But only a handful of people know who was truly at fault for those mistakes.
And let's let me just throw it a hypothetical.
What if every single bad decision was every time John was like, I think we should do this
and Kyle was like, all right, let me throw your bone.
We should do that.
Then John's got to go and Kyle's got to be really frustrated by that.
Or if Kyle's the problem and advocating for guys that turn out to be shit,
then maybe we need a more hands on GM and Kyle needs a little bit less responsibility
in that GM type of role.
That's what I'm thinking.
I mean, they're getting so deep in their tenure without a Super Bowl ring.
And if you're asking like, well, why haven't you won it?
You could point to bad luck or this and that.
But like you still can't ignore the fact that the last five drafts have been a
bismill except for Brock party.
And that was like, you know, a Hail Mary diamond in the rough miracle.
Like the big swings they've taken in the draft haven't come come to fruition.
It's been half a decade.
And that's why you've fallen to the third best team in the NFC West,
despite being older than the teams ahead of you.
So if you're going to ever catch them and be better than just like, you know,
one of the top eight teams in the lead.
Got a draft better.
So John still the GM.
He's got another chance this year.
If he knocks it out and gets a pro bowl player in round one, then, you know,
I they probably don't seem to want to make big changes with this team.
They want to focus on other things and let the Niners just make money.
But if that if some happens and they and they miss the playoffs and that costs some money.
And it's because once again, they they missed in round one.
And they don't seem to have any like future pro bowlers in their draft class.
Well, then someone's got to go and it could easily be John.
And I could see Jed and Kyle saying like, look, man, if if we could just someone get in
someone here who is good at drafting, we could win the Super Bowl.
And John played his position great and we needed him at that time.
He helped us get to this point.
But we're now at a point where we're we have the quarterback.
And there's really nothing John can do to help us get over the top.
We need a real draft there, a real person.
I could see them.
I mean, I think that would it's probably the truth really.
Yeah, I think there's probably something to that.
And like I said, we'll never know what's going on in those rooms.
It's fun to speculate.
I suspect there's probably a little mud on both of their faces.
They probably both pushed each other and been like, Hey, we should do this.
And then we're like, uh, John was, yeah, but Kyle can always fall back on like, look,
all right, you don't like my picks.
You don't like my, you think fine.
I'm a great coach, hire a guy.
Let him draft.
I don't even drag only reason I'm making these picks is because John can't do it
himself and needs me to step up.
So you know what?
I'll focus on the thing I do really well.
What does John do really well job is to pick the players.
And he asked me to do that.
I do want to give John credit for the trades.
Trent Williams trade, CMC trade, assuming that was him and not Kyle.
That's what he knows of your trade.
Yep.
Yep.
But it doesn't seem like John brought in Mike Evans.
It's not that I like the Mike Evans signing that much, but it's like, it seemed like that was a Kyle Shanahan,
George Kittle production.
Yep.
Yep.
Right.
And then when they got Christian Kirk, he went to the same freaking colleges, Mike Evans, it feels like,
it's like those people are kind of doing it on their own.
And John Lynch, Jed York, I don't know, are they, are they still, I don't know.
Let me go back to something you said earlier about Jed said he, he didn't know that, uh,
uh, Christian was signed, Christian Kirk was signed for a couple of days.
Do you believe him?
Like, that's a weird thing to say.
I almost wonder if he's, so there was a perception out there that he was the no man,
that he was cheap and telling the 49ers, no, you can't spend his money.
So is this him overcompensate and be like, oh, I gave everybody a blank check out there.
I didn't even know we were signing guys.
Or do you actually believe that he, he was unaware that a player was signed for seven, seven, several days?
That's weird.
I mean, he, he, he was like proud to say it.
I, I, I think he's trying to say that he's just really busy and thinking about other things
and that I guess he's trying to say that he's not really running this team right now.
He gives the guys a budget and they can sign as many injured players as they want.
So Christian delegator.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Jed York's whole attitude yesterday to me was like, I'm kind of burnt out on football.
Like I, like I want it, I want to own the Niners.
It's a cash.
I wouldn't just try, I wouldn't sell the Niners, but like,
I'm burnt out on this request for six.
I'm burnt out on like Brandon, I you can all this, like, I, I'm excited about Lee.
I want a new project.
You know, this thing is killing me over here.
I need something new and that to me is a little dangerous because it's like, you haven't finished the job, dude.
And if you're now more interested in side quests, what does that say about your ability to finish any job?
Let's assume for a second that this is true about his side quest, which we know he has them and that he is a little less focused on the 49ers.
If Jed is a part of the problem in terms of the,
the winning atmosphere in this organization, the winning culture wouldn't it be interesting?
If the year that he admits that he's stepping back and doing less 49er stuff, they go ahead and win the Super Bowl.
That'd be an interesting for his legacy.
You just got the hell out of the way, Jed.
And all of a sudden they started with it.
That would be fascinating to see.
They go ahead and win two Super Bowls in a row right after Jed starts focusing on soccer.
Yeah, it's true.
Let's talk Brock party's future.
So his contract gets really exponentially more expensive as time goes on.
It's not too expensive yet.
Next year they have to decide whether to exercise an option bonus, kind of lock him in.
He's the starting quarterback for now.
He missed half the season last year with a toe injury.
I think it's, he's kind of had an interesting nexus in his career where at first he's found money.
He's the last pick.
He's playing, he's balling.
He's producing like an elite quarterback and you're not paying him.
Then you pay him and it's like he's not expensive yet.
The cap number isn't big yet, but like it's, it's right there.
You can see it.
It's like, it's like the two with thing.
And as you get closer to that big, the big bucks, you got to ask yourself like, is he really reaching
the potential we thought he had?
Is he, because once you make a $50 million a year, it's only really worth it if you're the best.
One of the best or a future Hall of Famer.
And I think as we get closer, we get deeper in his career.
The question is does he have that in him?
Can you do that consistently?
And I think no one really knows the answer.
He's showing flashes, but he's also shown bad flashes and he's gotten injured.
I think, I think there's a lot of stake for Brock Purdy this year.
If his 2026 is like 2025, I think he's, I'm not know if he's in trouble, but I'm not
necessarily sure that the Niners will look at him as their forever quarterback or their quarterback
for the next 10 years.
If he stays healthy and puts up numbers like you did a couple of years ago and does better in the
playoffs, then yeah, they might look at him that way.
I think he really needs to justify the big investment now.
Otherwise, they'll say, you know what?
We don't want to go in that, we don't want to be in the twoest situation.
We like you.
We thought you had promise, but you're just ultimately not worth all that money.
No one wants to go that far and say the twoest situation.
The Jimmy Garoppolo situation.
I mean, it's, it's there.
Yep.
I, like I said, I'm a little warmer on Brock than you, but where we agree is your last
point that this is a very important year for him.
If he gets hurt and misses 10 games this year, no matter how good he plays in the rest
of them, now you got to be seriously concerned about Brock legitimately being injury prone.
If he comes out for Brock, isn't like, are you good?
Like he's cleared that hurdle.
Yep.
The question is, are you worth your contract?
Yeah.
And the contract gets more expensive every year.
So the answer, this year, the answer is yes, he's worth the contract.
But he has to prove that constantly.
And if he's missing half the games or throw a bunch of picks, eventually the answer
will be, he's good, but not this good.
And we have Mac Jones and we have to make a tough decision.
And again, we've been to three super bowls with three different quarterbacks and two
different coaches.
We can reinvent ourselves in the fight.
Kyle is shown that he can have success with a bunch of different quarterbacks, including
the backup here.
So again, his nothing personal is just dollars and cents and half management.
He has a lot to prove we, he's shown that he can play, he can produce at that level.
But yeah, he hasn't done it consistently the last couple of years.
Has to do it now.
Yeah, now you got Mike Evans.
So it is one less excuse unless guys get hurt again and use that excuse.
So we are signing a $20 million wide receiver to give you a weapon.
Do your thing, do what we paid you to do.
And he's going to be out of excuses if he doesn't have a really good season.
Them holding on Mac Jones set a lot.
Yeah, I don't think Max is going to be back, dude.
I don't think Max can be back.
I think that for the time being, he's here until they change, until they trade him, I feel
like it's not just a reflection of Mac.
It's a reflection of Brock Purdy's tenuous spot in the organization.
It's like, yeah, we love you.
And you got to prove that you're worth this contract.
You gave him because it's the last two years have been below what we wanted.
Yeah, Mac does put a little heat on Brock in the same way that Steve Young put a
little heat on Montana.
I don't want to compare those guys and give us an hour's hours.
It gives him like an exit ramp.
If they want to take it, yep, absolutely cheap exit ramp.
Yeah, yeah.
And it does seem to me like the Yorks again are trying to not spend frivolously with
the 49ers like they did with Brandon IU.
I mean, because you could just get in this money paper.
You're throwing money into winning a championship.
And it's just they're not going to do that.
They want to be, I think their attitude is if we, if we spend another $50 million, does
that really increase our chances of winning a Super Bowl that much?
Or if we spend that money on leads, maybe we get more of a profit, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe, maybe we get more of a profit so that we can spend more money
on the 49ers down the road.
Maybe I want to, maybe I'll give them credit and say, maybe this is a long-term strategy
that can eventually help the 49ers if they invest a little bit more in leads first.
Who knows, but it's, uh, they're just, I don't, they're just not in the business
of overpaying players anymore.
And I mean, yeah, they showed that with Brandon IU.
They still seem like they're trying to get their money.
It's worth because he played 350 snaps and got hurt.
If they feel Brock isn't necessarily worthy, just like the crazy contract that gave him,
they'll find a way, they'll find a way to make him take a pay cut or to get out
and be like, it's not personal.
It's just that we don't do business like that.
Yeah, Brandon IU, maybe the last contract like that that they give out.
I think, I think they went into it a little nervous and kind of knowing in the back
of their mind that it was a bad idea.
When he first signed it, I thought it was a bad idea.
A lot of people thought it was a bad idea.
It was too much money for him, given all the red flags.
And then it turned out to be true.
So they're probably a real hesitant to give a guy that much money in the future.
I think when Purdy went to the Super Bowl in his first full season as a starter,
I mean, people were kind of like thinking, man, this guy could be one of the all-time
grades. Even I even know a lot of people weren't.
But I think people said the same stuff about Kaepernick to what Ron George said the same thing.
Like, man, this guy could really be one of the all-time grades.
But that was two and a half years ago.
And I don't think that anyone looks at Brock Purdy as a guy who's on that trajectory
anymore. He could get back onto it.
But I think he's more now in like, he's like, definitely a top 10 quarterback in the league.
But not necessarily a pro-buller.
I mean, like, those too many picks get injured too much, runs around a lot.
It's kind of small.
Doesn't see the field.
Doesn't have down the field and doesn't have the biggest arm.
Like a really good quarterback whose limitations have been on display for the last
couple of years.
And now he needs to either overcome them or succumb to them.
I think he's kind of at the cross.
Yeah.
How much do you think his toe played a role in his performance last year?
Because there was a couple games where he had like zero carries.
He clearly wasn't as mobile.
And I think that toe can also affect some
interceptions if you're throwing the ball a little high.
So I think it affected him big time because he's not the kind of quarterback who can play
at 75% health.
He needs to be fully mobile.
He's not a pocket pastor.
He's a mobile quarterback and he didn't have that mobility for a lot of the season.
When he came back and he was, I mean, against the bears and the Colts,
he had all of his mobility and he looked really good.
But again, it's like if you're ineffective,
unless you're 100% healthy and you're smaller and you hold a ball a lot,
and you run around, it's like, all right.
Well, how many games year are we going to get full Brock?
And if the answer is 11, then that's not $53 million a year.
Like, so, right, again, we're, we are,
there's no question that Brock's a good quarterback.
Despite the interceptions, he is a real, he does a hell of a lot of touchdown passes.
He extends plays, he makes plays, good quarterback.
But that's not, but that's not ultimately the issue anymore.
It's these contracts, which I don't even know.
It seems like the league's going away from these huge quarterback contracts.
Other teams have shown you don't have to give them out to win super.
In fact, they're kind of hurt the, your ability to win Superbowls because
you don't have a team anymore.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Yeah.
Okay, let's talk J. York's future and then I'll take some super chats.
So he was, I've never heard him so detached.
I don't even know.
I don't even, I don't even focus on this team.
I got a lot of other stuff.
Christian Kirk, wow, that was incredible.
I don't even know how much time John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan left have left on their deals.
And yet he's so plugged in with Leeds United and Rangers FC
and the Dabartolo Corporation.
Do you see him owning this team in the future?
Do you see him not
turning over, control to someone else as he owns it?
Is he becoming an absentee owner?
Is he burnt out on football?
How do you read, Jed?
I'm not sure.
I've got theories.
I like the burned out on football idea or just burned out in general when you're taking
on so much extra responsibility for another organization.
That'll burn out.
That'll hurt.
So it certainly could be that.
What would be the next step?
If he moves on, he says, I don't want to do this 49er stuff anymore.
Let's speculate.
What's the next step?
Who comes in?
Yeah, that was my speculation.
But I don't think he wants to do that.
I think what he wants is the,
the Niners to be the constant.
It's the brand.
It's the primary revenue stream.
But I don't think he really wants to do that much tinkering with it.
I think he kind of wants to set it and forget it.
We got this coach.
You know, we're filling up, but we got the stadium.
I've already renovated that.
There's really not much more for me to do here.
We kind of just got to be patient and hopefully maybe Kyle will win.
So while we're waiting for Kyle to figure out how to not choke a super bowl away,
why don't I just do some other stuff?
Because what he has shown himself is not that he can, he's not a champion in any way.
But he has shown that he could flip a franchise.
And he's good at it.
He's got my jet.
Yeah, he's good.
He could flip a franchise.
He could take a franchise as falling on hard times.
That isn't really, that used to be iconic and make it profitable again.
So while he's waiting to become a champion, he could flip leads.
Like, I wouldn't be surprised if he sold leads in five to 10 years.
Like, you know, we took it, it was worth this.
Now we got, we got a new stadium and it's worth this.
And boom, mission accomplished.
Do we win it primarily?
Of course not.
That was never going to happen.
But look how much money I made.
And I can keep doing that time after time.
Maybe that's his legacy.
Like, I'm not going to be a five time champion like my uncle,
but I'm going to make way more money than he ever made.
Do you get the sense that he's a guy who cares about his legacy?
Yeah, I do.
I don't know that Mark Davis cares about his legacy.
I think that Jed would love to be a champion.
And I think it bothers him that he lost those three championships.
But I think, I mean, does it because he wants to be one,
doesn't mean that he necessarily has what it takes.
And I think what he's learning about himself is that he does have what it takes
to make a lot of money with sports teams.
Yeah.
And he's proven it once.
And he's going to try to prove it more times.
Because I will give him some, you know, self-esteem,
not that he lacks self-esteem.
But I mean, that's something he has accomplished on his own in the world.
Yeah.
I think he's going to keep doing that.
And I think that's kind of a symptom of him not winning a Super Bowl.
It's like, well, I have to find something else to be.
I have to define success in another way.
And I always feel like his usage of the word success is like
strange to me.
I said, well, we've had success here.
Well, depending on how you define success.
I mean, these are the 49ers.
Your uncle has all those trophies.
You have no trophies, but you have like a great valuation.
Yeah.
We're getting back to that Jerry Jones business man analogy again.
Yeah.
There might be something there.
There might be something there.
I don't know.
I mean, I guess as long as he has a good coach,
nine or fans will be happy.
They'll be in the mix.
But I would like.
It's weird that Eddie's nephew is not
maniacal about football the way Eddie was.
I don't think Eddie would have been.
But then again, I don't know.
He got mixed up with riverboat gambling.
Who knows, man?
I don't know.
I'm not a billionaire.
I don't know how these people think.
Maybe if I had a bajillion dollars and I couldn't win a soup bar,
I'd be wanting to do sidequests too.
I don't know.
I think you're right.
I'd be doing riverboat gambling and Louisiana.
Be like, what are you doing?
I'm like, I don't know.
What was the money?
I don't know what to do with that.
It's terrible.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
It's gracious.
Goodness.
Jay Robb says the only thing the fans care about is if Kyle had a shot
at the killer with you.
Let the people know.
I didn't bring him a shot at Tequila.
He had his, he had his own beverage,
but I did go over and gave him a what's up.
And I said a load of his wife.
And I asked him if he wanted to go to Sedona with me.
And he was seen like he wanted to.
But I don't think we're going to go to Sedona together.
But he seemed, he was happy to see me.
He gave me the bro hug.
I got a bro hug from Kyle Shanahan.
How about that?
How about that?
Nice.
Wait a second.
Wait a second.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
What'd you say about people who hug you, though?
Huh?
What'd you say our last show about people who hug you?
Oh my God.
I had not thought of that.
Hanging out at him, Peter's giving me hugs.
Oh my God.
Shut it down.
It's over.
He's not long for this team.
I hadn't put two or two together.
He's not long for this team.
My goodness, my goodness.
Jason Lutz says, what if a player gets a concussion in Australia?
What could delay their time back by date?
That could delay their time back by dates weeks
and have to deal with jet lag after that.
Bad for both teams.
I hadn't thought of that.
I guess if you get a concussion,
you still have symptoms.
Probably wouldn't want you to go on a 19-hour flight.
Right, right.
That's something that, as a fan,
you're going to be watching that game just like
you're always rooting for your players not to get injured.
But now you're especially like,
oh, I hope somebody doesn't go into the blue team.
How many people in Australia do you think are like,
I'm so excited to watch the Niners and the Rams play?
Fourteen?
I don't know.
I have to plead ignorance.
I don't know.
I've been impressed with how they're filling the stadiums
and other countries.
But that is a good game, though.
If there are NFL fans in Australia,
which I don't know the answer to that,
that's a hell of a game to start the season with.
To me, what's funny is there's so eager
to make fans out of the Australians
and the Brits and the Germans,
who to me have next to no interest in American football.
I think I've got their own things.
The only international crowd I've seen that really seems
to love football is Mexico.
That Mexico City game was incredible.
It seemed like just legit hell of football fans in Mexico.
And the NFL's like,
we'll play there, but we don't really want our,
you know, we really want to go to Australia.
It's like, oh, okay.
Yeah, a lot of expats in Mexico
who probably have their favorite teams.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In North America, they seem to like the sport.
Dustin the Gale says,
funnily enough, the score takes care of itself.
Book that Jed referenced was written by Bill Walsh.
I'm not even joking.
Shit, are we serious right now?
The score takes care of itself by Bill Walsh.
Wow.
Okay.
Damn, Jed.
He wins again.
It's incredible.
Well, that's what we learned at the owner's meetings this year.
It's going to be interesting to see what
Jed York learns next about this.
Maybe he's going to find out today that they trade it for
Oso Diggie Zoo.
You think he knows?
I don't know.
Do you think he knows they signed Mike Evans?
Maybe.
Tony, man, good stuff.
Thanks for coming on me.
As always, brother.
We'll talk soon.
All right.
Take care, everyone.
Peace.
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