Film Sack 739: The Boondock Saints

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Hello everybody, welcome to FilmSack. Yeah, that's right. This is FilmSack,

minding the very depths of film entertainment for all mankind. This is

episode 739. I am Scott Johnson joined today by Brian. I will never forget the

time. He pulled that toilet out of the ground with his bare hands done away.

We're pulling it up and we're throwing it out. Oh, hi. This week on TwinSack, we

kissed the giant wooden representation of the sweet feet of our Catholic

lord and savior. Hmm, is that Santa would with just a touch of pledge wood

cleaner mixed in with the simple kisses of a thousand sweaty Irishman? And I

reward for being the good boondocks says that we are a leaky roof prison vision

to shake off the indifference of good men and to get busy would bring in

vigilante justice to our local community in the form of tandem acts of

violence pre-cap by hold on. I got to slow down here. I don't want to say it

wrong and don't I don't want you to hear it wrong. A homophonic pun named

character played by Willem Dafoe. This sounds a lot like the size of his unit.

Now, now, say this. Now say the made up family prayer that will eventually

lead us back to daddy spoiler. In this 1999 action crime thriller Hitchner

ride like a detached thumb back to the crime lab in small peckers pocket. Any

who? When me and my twin brother ain't drinking killing or breaking health

code by slapping each other with loose cut meats back at the Boston meatpack

and plant cross from the Dunkin Donuts. No, no, the other Dunkin Donuts. No, not

that one either. Listen, we don't have time to name all the Dunkins in Boston.

Now, where was I? Oh, yeah. When we doing that other stuff, we are back at our

converted and long abandoned gym shower apartment hole. Okay, okay. Let's

have a conversion in more light. We threw a couple of mattresses on the

wet floor and waited until we won squatters rights. Gross. Randy, you had me at

disc man assisted detective work. Let's dance. Man, that's one of your best.

That was really good. Uh, nicely done. Also with a schedule. Yeah, exactly.

Lots to work with. Uh, also this week we have with this Randy. No one, sorry,

no one warned him that Ron Jeremy was in this Jordan. Hello, hot Scott. Brian, Brian.

Once again, we meet and once again, we are cops. I'm telling you, we're

almost always cops. It's kind of wild how you can. Can't really have a story

without having cops. Surely there are exceptions, right? Like maybe a night of

the seven kingdoms. No, wait, nights are cops. None of the left. Excuse me.

Here we are. And we've got killers of the loose. And dude, they're killing so many

people. It's kind of surprising how many people they're killing. How do they

keep getting away? Like, have you ever been around loud noises like gunshots?

Everyone comes out to see what's going on. Anyway, we're going to catch these guys

as long as you follow my three St. Rules. Number one, remember, remember all those prayers,

they taught you in Bible school. Yeah, those are going to come in real handy.

Just ask God for accurate bullets. Number two, show your face all over town.

The thinking here is that the more they see you, the less they know what you look like.

Right. Yeah. Number three. Number three. When in doubt, you can always infiltrate a mob mansion

by becoming the hottest drag queen in town. And when the door man stops you, just kiss.

Just kiss. Just kiss. Guys, I can kiss. I'll do that. Defoe is a pretty attractive lady.

No, I was shocked. I was kind of surprised. No, gross. That's why you have to just kiss.

Yeah, just kiss and forget what you're looking at.

I with us also. And finally, we have Brian. He's starting a new touring band called the Norman

Redis's inconsistent Irish accent band. Oh, it's so true. Yes. Hi, we're going to just get this.

Anyway, there's a lot of songs with the words say in the title. Oh, by the way, I've done a

way. There's something weirdly attractive about Defoe. It's weird. All right. Anyway, songs with

the same title, right? You get like, you know, Beach Boys little Satanic and say James

Infermery covered by the white stripes. And it's hard to be a Satanist city by Bruce Springsteen,

St. Teresa by Joan Osborne. Of course, when the Saints go marching in, but only one song with the

Boondocks. Go ahead and play the clip. Oh, shit. Nice. Good pick. It took me a second.

Taking stereotype mafia down. There's something awfully familiar here.

The tale you want to tell, because I could have sworn I've seen that guy, but he was played by

Harvey Cartel. Sets in the Boondocks. Sets in the Boondocks. Territidocaldis actually appalled you

to do this. And if you're in box, I think you'll see a season de-sisto from Guy Ritchie,

but Lord, we've seen it all before the Saints in the Boondocks.

Oh, shit. We're going higher. We're going to find out, find a way to watch Boondocks

too. I heard you brought a rocket back. I'd like to find out if it's true.

Until then, the other films I'll play. Far better comedy crab in heaven.

Smokey in aces, kiss, kiss, bang, bangin'. Smokey in number Slaven. Sets in the Boondocks.

Sets in the Boondocks. Territidocaldis actually appalled you to do this.

And if you're in box, I think you'll see a season de-sisto from Guy Ritchie,

but Lord, we've seen it all before the Saints in the Boondocks.

But Lord, we've seen it all before the Saints in the Boondocks.

But Lord, we've seen it all before the Saints in the Boondocks.

And it's just me. But between all the intros and then this,

this is some of the best introshirt we've ever done for him, for a movie we're probably not

going to be that kind to, you know what I think so, yeah, probably. Well, thanks. Yeah,

that's to be trying to do my best high voice Billy Joe Royal. Yeah, like channeling James from

Saint Sykes Mary a little bit for that one. Oh, yeah, it was a little Jamesy, you know what I'm talking about?

Fantastic. I can't get over the thought that there are, there's somebody out there who loves

this movie. Like, there's a lot of people out there who love this movie. Absolutely.

Absolutely. You know how we, you know how we get the thing like every week, there's a person

who pops out, pops out of nowhere and goes, you are about to review my favorite movie of all time.

I own it on seven medias and I watched it on your time. Please be careful what you say in this

order. Yeah, like, I, this one especially feels like it was made for some person in West Virginia

who is the biggest Spoon Thuck Saints fan in the world. I don't know. There are people who are

really jazzed about this movie and I remember at the time, I didn't see it when it came out,

but I saw years later and then yeah, second time here today or yesterday, but, um, there were,

it was like the kind of fandom usually reserved for like big cult classics like, I don't know,

Donnie Darko or, although Donnie Darko maybe has some of the similar same problems I kind of

have with this thing. Like, I don't quite get the fandom. The Scarface is probably the biggest

comparison for me. Like, I think the people who went to Spencer's and didn't find the Scarface

poster they wanted probably picked up a Boondock Saints poster instead. Oh, interesting. This movie

has an interesting production history and release history that kind of time shifted it a little

bit that may be a, a factor for why this is a cult classic because this was, uh,

was poised for a wide release, but got retracted a little bit a lot actually because of the

Columbine shootings and didn't really get a good release, a wide release until later. Um,

which could have kind of put it out of out of space with all the other comparisons and stuff

that we are gonna talk about and going, oh, it's just like all these other movies. But it kind of

got time shifted a little bit. Yeah. This is my first viewing of the Boondock Saints and, uh,

it's got some interesting things in it. Yeah. This is my first viewing and the thing that I feel

like we're immediately jumping on is the portrayal in the movie of the killers as folk heroes,

as like local good guys. And, you know, I, uh, yeah, I remember coming out of Columbine, you know,

April 20th, 1999, um, that feeling like we got to be really, really careful with how, uh,

you know, media is making these things. Yeah, anybody with two characters, whether you

want to call them unlikely, you know, vigilante heroes are not walking around and, you know,

long coats with two guns. And there's been, you know, showing up in the long coats. Yeah,

that was just a little too on the nose. The matrix suffered a bit from this. Like,

black trench coats. Yeah. Right. So I, you know, it's hard to separate them.

The matrix was right before Columbine. Right. And, and you're, you're right. There were,

there were people still like going to see it. Yeah. But it was a little, it was like,

man, if the matrix hadn't come out yet, I think it would have been a very different movie.

Probably. It's a little like Spider-Man getting the slight delay and also changing all the trailers

and deleting a whole scene that involved the two towers. Cause, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He caught

a helicopter in a web. Yeah. Like they made a web between them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So now,

suddenly you've got a trailer and a scene where aircraft are flying toward the twin towers

after this horrible thing. Yeah. It's a hard, it's a hard, uh, in a long line to walk. I never

really quite understand how some of that works out. You know, famously, um, I was the other one

that was right around then a Bruce Willis thing, uh, maybe Denzel Washington. It was some kind of

terrorist attacky movie. And I remember that got pushed way out and then way under public,

uh, publicize so hardly anyone saw it. Um, but this thing was already kind of an indie thing.

It was very small budget first time filmmaker and writer, uh, in the form of Troy Duffy. And, um,

I just think take all of that context out of it. I'm not sure the Boondock Saints deserves

the weird amount of love again. And I understand it's all relative and subjective and everybody's

got their different opinions and all that. But I have the hardest time finding it in this one.

It just feels like a lot of, oh, I love the edgy stuff happening in the 90s. And you know,

your song was dead on as far as I'm concerned. Like all the other inspiration, the Tarantinos

of the world who are actually making really good versions of this pulpy stuff. This feels like

Teemu came in and said, we're going to do this too a little bit. It does with the with the glaring

exception of Willem Dafoe who, um, he's in another movie. He's in another movie. He's deaf. He's

deaf. He's deaf. He's following it up. Yep. This is, yeah. This is two different movies and they

edited them together. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It very much fills that way. And it is kind of the

story type, right? It's like, I'm going to recreate these crime scenes in retrospect. And I'm going

to do it in the most defoe way possible. And by the end, it's, he's literally going to be in the

scenes. I did, you know, I did appreciate the formula that they set up at each crime scene,

you know, kind of. Yeah. I did appreciate the fact that it's like, okay, let's show the mayhem,

let's show Dafoe come in and explain it. And then let's walk into what actually happened. And

there they end exactly. He blends in with everything. He's actually getting closer and closer to

the to the to the reality of what's really going on the truth. And so I kind of actually enjoy.

I thought that was. It was a clever way of doing of showing, you know, instead of just saying,

here's what the, here's what the action look like. Here's the aftermath. It's like,

seeing the aftermath first and then doing and then discovering along with Dafoe, figuring out

what happened. Yeah. And juxtapose against this. I did it early on. He thought these were just a

couple of nice local Irish boys and he let them go. And he doesn't have any idea that the thing

he's slowly building is this story about these two guys. He let go. And now it's all coming back

to him just in time for his hair to be everywhere and a shirt to be all on button.

When I say Willem Dafoe is in a different movie, I'm not talking about the anachronic order of

the story. The anachronic order of the story is that thing where we're like, oh, come on,

that's just what Tarantino did in pulp fiction. Willem Dafoe, being in a different movie,

is him dancing around and streaming at a crime scene. At some point. At some point,

these Boston cops are just going to send you away. They're just going to wrap a freaking

piece of duct tape around your mouth and put it on a fan. He's FBI, but he's also like the

genius, right? He's he's able to, you know, he's smarter to everybody else. Everybody knows it.

So it's kind of yeah, but he's gay, but he calls his boyfriend the F word. He's like all these

weird things. It's I can see like on paper, I think this Troy Duffy guy was like, yeah,

and then we'll do this. Yes, it doesn't be this. And it'll be great. This will shock people.

This will freak people out. And it's like, yeah, I kind of can see through that a bit though. It

just didn't have like meat on the bones. Did you spot on with because it's like one of the

hottest scripts in Hollywood during the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I just want to ask one question

about that. So we we first find out that Smecker is gay. Like we don't we don't we aren't really

given any clues until this moment when suddenly he wakes up in bed to a phone call in the middle of the

night. And his lover is right there next to him. Yeah. And in his lover's pawing him in the middle

of the night. And so oh, all of a sudden you're like, oh, Smecker is gay. Okay. I got it. I see

didn't you did you like me also feel like Willem Dafoe was finding out in that moment. It felt

like everybody involved, including the audience was being told. I just had this weird feeling.

Willem Dafoe feels feels to me like he is just now coming into an understanding of his

character. Yeah. That's really funny. But now that you say it, I try to see it. Yeah. I think

yeah, that that was kind of clue. I mean, on he is that that clued into a different part of his

character, which is he's so married to his job. The thing that he loves coming up with these,

you know, figuring out stuff that doesn't really care about anybody as far as, you know,

relationships or anything goes. So yeah, it was kind of informative. But yeah, you're right. You

and by the way, I'm not saying he was self-hating the character. I don't think the character

was self-hating. I actually think he was using the Eftzler over and over to try to

try to convince people that he was straight because that that benefited him if they all thought he

was straight. I only thought he said it once. I must have blocked it out. I thought he said it.

There was a couple of words here. I was like, oh, he used the F-Smear to his boyfriend and then he

used it again towards a bartender. Oh, yeah, totally right. I forgot about that scene. But yeah,

to have a movie that's got both the the F word, the end word, I was waiting for the R word at some

point. I'm glad we didn't get it. We got a lot of, uh, that's actually retis. No, no, no,

you got the retis word. Um, no, you're right. We didn't get the we got sure I got a lot of F-Bombs,

though, I had a count here, uh, yeah, 200. Well, you had to 246. If you're emulating, uh,

movies of the time, you got to you got to bring the F-Bombs. Well, do you think so you think he

that he was so so to my point earlier, he is just trying to ape on the trend. Yeah, I don't know.

It's it's it's really kind of hard to say. I didn't have time to break it down this week. But

anytime you have a first time director, you got to look and see how much money was involved and how

many producers may have been, uh, pushing things around that that may have made things different.

So I didn't have time to research that deep, though. Well, I understand. It's was real low budget

and he had full control. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think the only hard part was getting it sold.

Was it Harvey Weinstein's the one that ended up getting the hard Weinstein accepted a kiss, uh,

for, uh, the, the exchange. Yeah, he would take a kiss at the door. We're going away. We'll

we'll him to foe had to go take care of that for Troy Duffy. Sure, sure. I'm making up shit,

people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is just Brian making up shit. By the way, we have a

reason, but it's not that far off. No, it's probably not that far off. That's why I had to say

I'm making it up just in case. Just in case. Now, uh, we have a fake fletcher. This comes to us courtesy

of, uh, uh, someone who I thought was not Irish, but it turns out Dr. Dr. Jerry Tolbert is Irish.

Oh, don't. Oh, she explains the ginger hair. Yeah. He's kind of a, you know, he looks the part,

but now he sounds the part. Check it out. On this week's film, Zack, a pair of Irish American

brothers in Boston become vigilante killers after a violent confrontation with Russian

mob enforcers convincing themselves they're doing God's work by wiping out criminals.

It has cult status, which just means if it's Friday, you're in love.

That's great. Well, listen, I love, I'd love to not, I'd love to give him credit for that writing,

but that's something I did. But did I know he was going to come back in with an Irish accent? No,

sir, I did not. That was great. So so people know moving forward, I'm going to start just to shake

things up. I'm going to start like saying, Hey, who wants in? And then we're going to let people

have their own little showcase of reading a fake like an audition, uh, ready for my close-up,

Mr. DeMille kind of thing. Basically, they'll send it in. And if it's terrible, I have no problem

saying it is, uh, you know, that's right. Put yourself out there. It's kind of. Yeah.

I might even, I might even play it and say how bad it is on the show. Yeah. Who knows? It might

actually happen. But, uh, yeah, anyway, they're making good or really bad. That's right. Right?

Yes. Okay. So back to the point of this thing, I think that there's something really interesting

here. And in the hands of a director, somebody like the John Wick creator guy, for example,

take the idea of two brothers who have seen so many wrongs rot in their town. And the Irish

thing is great. The Boston thing is great. There's so much fun with that culture and and where religion

and violence clashes like all of that stuff is ripe, great material to work with. This just

feels like an execution problem. And I don't mean that literally. But like the way this movie is made,

bummed me out because I know in other hands, this could have been really something. And I guess

it was just something enough for the cult following, but also part of why it's cult following is,

it's inherently not that great. It would felt like a one off, although they followed it up with a

movie that's not even, it's not as good as this one, even. No. And a third was coming for a while.

That's still going to happen. As far as I know, as I still have it, I didn't do it once again.

I did as much research as I could in a week. You think Reedus has been practicing his terrible

attitude. I think he'll tell you to leave me back if it comes. But his accent was so bad.

So bad. So bad. Yeah. And I like it. I like Normandy. The entire tober. Yeah. The thing about

Norman Reedus is I really like his work. I think he's great. He's fantastic. Yeah. But he's just

not a flannery. Flannery just not find another Irish. Personally, flannery is Irish. He's very,

very good. Like he's killing it with the accent. But he was our young Indiana Jones for a while too.

Oh, I forgot that's who that is. Yeah. Oh, nice. You know, nice people.

You know, people age as well. Do we think they still looking up a like, like brothers? Because

it means it's supposed to be twin brothers. Like, like, not like identical twins. They're supposed to

be fraternal. Is that the deal? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know that either. I thought he was a younger

because flannery plays older than this. There's there's there's a deleted scene as they talk about

they there's some jokes like with them all about one being older and find in the room or something.

Yeah. I guess he was born in America, but he he has to have

flannery. I mean, it's such a literally shun, shun Patrick flannery. All three of those words

are Irish as hell. Yeah. Yeah. I think and I by the way, he was never a condom in that household.

But yeah, I actually think he was he was good. No, like him and read us. Yeah. Yeah. That's David

Delaraco. I want to talk about him for a quick second. Yeah. Um, Rocco. He played the plays

Rocco. Yeah. Yeah. He he's an interesting ad, but then just yelled so much that by the time

we were done with him, I was very done with him. I was ready. Yeah. He was he was somewhere between

you bought a Kenny logon's costume at spirit Halloween and Hans Bubby. Yeah. A little bit.

A little bit. Yeah. I just got tired of him and kind of felt. I don't know. His time to come

and get dead. I was fine. Goodbye. I couldn't decide because he's kind of like the third brother. He's

also on board. And he's and he's the one who gets murdered so that we can kind of be inspired

in the third act to kind of, you know, step up and do the things we got to do. So I was kind of

torn. I did I couldn't figure out if I wanted to laugh about the cat getting blown away in the face

like Marvin style from Pulp Fiction. Yeah. You shot barbed in the face. Oh, I couldn't. I couldn't laugh

at all of that. I was not. Yeah. The fact that it was even attempted to play as playoff as

humor and then when the women come back, they're like, you don't even know the cat's name. It's like,

oh, okay, that makes it okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It does. But no. Yeah. That was what that scene was

him trying to be very the director trying to be very Tarantino. Very much. I mean, you hit on

the nail on the head with it being Marvin. The same same method of the gun going off unexpectedly

causing a very shocking scene so much better done in Pulp Fiction than here, obviously. Yeah.

And I don't know like if I'm you try to imagine a young filmmaker in Hollywood, they

Tarantino was a revelation at the time to people. They were just like, oh, my gosh, whole new

film era. Let's go. And I'd argue that's true. And then so many were kind of ready to ride that

and did pretty okay with it. You mentioned, I'm used to already working, but

Guy Richie. Guy Richie. Yeah. Guy Richie is on twist. We made one movie at this point. He had,

oh, really? That's it. He was smoking barrels. Right. Okay. It was out. And very much had like that,

you know, the British take on the mob hard, hard monster. Sure. But, you know, real opening

window for a lot of these kind of directors. And I just felt like this was like watching a kid go,

I want to make I want to make Star Wars movies. So I was thinking about this. And I haven't

finished thinking about it. But I know lots of times, like, there'll be a movement happening.

And one person will have a breakout. And then everybody will be pressured to use what they're

already doing, but kind of steer it in the direction that worked kind of like grunge music.

And we had grunge kind of pop up in Seattle. And it feels like, you know, people who probably would

have never even been noticed were like, oh, you got any more like that. And they kind of picked

them up and they kind of have to like push them in to a little bit go, okay, this is what's working.

So you got to kind of fit yourself inside this. And then years later, you hear back from those

artists ago, yeah, they were really pushing us to like, Devton's is like, yeah, they really

wanted to make us grunge. We weren't grunge. And so from the audience perspective, I remember this

very, very well. The initial wave of grunge artists were a certain thing. And then the second wave

are a little offensive because they don't sound precisely like the first. And it's hard. I remember

it was really hard on me when Stone Temple Pilots came out. And I'm like, that's not what this is

supposed to sound like. That's not it. It's like two albums to start going. I really like this.

Exactly. But it was too clean, right? At the beginning, just fell too, too produced and polished

and that sort of thing. But now it's like, we can't, we can't talk about the greatest grunge bands

in the world without Stone Temple Pilots coming to play. You have the flashing pumpkins.

Yeah. And in other ways, don't always absolutely right. This is exactly how movie trends work.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You find you find one that has success and they try to kind of shoehorn

everything that kind of looks like it into it. Yeah. I just don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

The 70s and I just don't know how much of that is pressure from producers or just as dude being stoked.

You know, I don't know. Yeah. Speaking of producers, I want to correct something from a few minutes

ago. Harvey Weinstein had nothing to do with this movie. He was not the executive producer. He was

not, he was nothing. He basically sold the rights to make the movie to an executive producer named

Ashok Amritraj. And Ashok Amritraj is a famous, very successful executive producer. He's now,

the, all of his movies the last 25 years have been the Hyde Park Entertainment Group.

Okay. We have seen some Ashok Amritraj movies here on film sec. He produced bandits and

battlefield earth and he produced those great classics. Yeah. He produced that rock movie,

walking tall that we watched. I like walking tall. These films that you could not have more of

an opposite to Harvey Weinstein than Ashok Amritraj. And what, what it looks like happened was

Miramax originally bought the whole project and then Harvey Weinstein personally clashed with

Troy Duffy and put it in turn around and then sold it for less than half of what they paid for it.

So mirror, this is actually a movie that hurt Miramax, which is nice, you know,

it's nice to hear that. It's good to hear. It's like, no, Troy Duffy won't touch my

PP. I'm not letting him have anything to do with nothing. I don't, yeah, I don't know. I mean,

we don't have any of this information. So we're just pontificating here. But I just, I don't know,

man, I just felt like this thing for whatever reason, I am really glad for the people that see it

as like this all time cult classic. I'm happy for them. Yeah. But what is, so, you know,

let's talk about really quick if we can. There's, there's no real hook, real edge without

willum defoe. I feel like, I feel like if you take defoe out of this, it is really just a

of vigilante, you know, vigilante and some of the street kind of piece. But what, like a modern

director taking this on, what could they add to this or what could they, what twist or, or

make it a TV series brand. Okay. And, and make the, make the cop trying to figure out who,

who they are and what they're doing much more of the through line of the story.

Because of the actual movie that we got here is just the glory of them pulling off their

killings. And, right. And in the series, I mean, are they, are they, do we see them as bad guys

then because of the climate, the gun climate that we have today or do we still, I think there,

I think they're seen as heroes again. I think it's a mix. What do you call that? There's a word

for the anti here. Yeah. The bad man thing other than Batman, not killing people. But it really

is that it's like, these are all, no, the, our regular systems are not taking care of crime.

What do we have to do? We get in and do it ourselves. Yeah. This is all vigilanteism, which is,

which is interestingly handled is, is leaving the theater discussion as we talk to all these

people on the street, talking about how they're, how they're, how they viewed what it happens. So,

that was one of the more interesting things in the movie. It's really well done part. And what's

interesting about it is I can see them asking these people the same question coming out of the

movie, the Boondock Sands. Yeah. Yeah. Which is the idea, right? It's like, right. Yeah.

Let's let's let's have these further discussions about vigilante. It's sure for sure. I feel like,

I feel like, okay, so this is not dumb. It's been done before, like living dead movie, the first

one I did living dead had this great kind of newscast reporter thing at the end. And then a few

others, I think of those walking and walking dad keeps saying that. The night of living dead,

dawn of the dead, all that stuff had. You got to read us in your head. You can't help it. I know,

I can't help it. But it's similar stuff like that. And this is actually maybe the best technical

thing in the movie for me. And that's a weird thing to say because it's the last three minutes.

But it's so like, when they were ending it and it's, it's a O'Connell or my brain today. What's

his name, the comedian, the, the, not only certainly Billy Connor, Billy Connor. Yeah. He does a great

Irish accent, by the way. It's really good. He's a lot more Scottish. But he's very good. In

any way, he he's a he's on the couch, and he says whatever final words, he says, which sets things

up for sequels and all that. And I thought, if they cut the credits here, this is going to be the

most disappointing ending in my life. Yeah. And instead they did that thing and that thing really

worked and I really worked. I came away with a little better overall than I had just because

of that one choice. I thought that was really cool. This, this was a, you know, we probably

didn't have a lot of small community experience with the topic that was talked about a lot

in this movie, which is people keeping their mouth shut. And so it starts off talking

about Kitty, Genevae, as I used to say it, who was just a user, Genevae, Genevae, Genevae,

some like that. She was, she was murdered, right? And there's, you know, people talk about

how to know when reported it. Of course, there's, people also said, well, it wasn't really

as loud as everybody says it was. But anyway, it started like the Good Samaritan laws and

different things. And we saw them in Seinfeld's finale. Great finale, right?

Great. Anyway, I actually think it's better now if you watch it now. Yeah, I agree, actually,

right. But the point is, there's this, this, this movie's having some conversations that were

really being had in that area, area probably as this, as this individual was growing up. And also,

he witnessed a murder as well, I believe. So there's a lot of influences in real life things that

were milling around how well that message was delivered is of course the question. I like the,

I like the twins idea, but I tell you, if we didn't have DeFoe, I think we had to bring in

ToDuce Billy Connelly's character, the dad who, you know, they didn't really say he was

his dad. But you know, he's dead. It's down to DJ, right?

DJ, right? That's right. He'll do. Yeah. He'll be up here. Mussolini. Yeah. Right.

Right. Right. That's interesting. But there's so many, so many homophonic, there's so many

homophonic puns in here. I was pretty sure he made the other. So yeah. Yeah, it was,

look, he was fine. I liked when he would narrate. Yeah. I liked that that we opened up stuff up,

like, and there is a part of me that was like, we'll just roll into a sequel with you three doing

this. And let's go. That's really crazy. Well, 10 years later. Yeah. Well, I mean, the movie

didn't really hit wide or rental release until what, like, five years after Columbine or something.

Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. That's what I mean. The momentum. Yeah. It was like a plotbuster

exclusive for a while. It could only rent it. It was. It was. Yeah. It's interesting. In the

sequel, Billy Connelly's character is referred to as DAW, like dad. Right. Sure. Yeah. He's not

like dad, dad at all, which is interesting. Right. I just want one more thing about this movie being

about vigilanteism because it is, but it doesn't want to be. It wants to be cool. Yeah. It's way more

interested in you feeling what they're feeling when you lose a finger and all of the, all of the

pain of recovering from being shot and so forth. Like, that's what this movie wants you to think

about, but you can't help but think about vigilanteism, especially the final scene, right? Which is

a bunch of man on the street stuff. Yeah. And like, it should have been my favorite thing. Like,

I should have been at the theater in 1999 because I grew up reading vigilante stuff, right? Like,

my favorite early books were a power man and iron fist. And then I moved on to Punisher and Dare

Devil. And I'm just naming all the defenders, but that's what they're just like a joke.

It's like a lecture. Much later. Much later. They decide the daily bugle has people writing this

thing called the pulse. And one of those writers is Jessica Jones. And she's trying to figure out

who Luke Cage is. And like, all of those people are so, they're so steep in the distinction between

what the people want and what the people get in terms of justice. And I love that so much. But

this movie doesn't give it to me. This movie is busy with, you know, again, Willem DeFoe dancing

in the street and finding a figure and there's no challenge to it either, right? They seem to know

exactly where clusters of mafia guys are going to be at any given time. Instead of having to do any

like legwork and track them down and follow and like, you know, learn their patterns and that sort of

thing. Oh, there's a guy we found one of the guys. Let's see if we can follow him to where there

might be more of them. It's like, Hey, they just got a flyer that all the mafia guys are playing poker

in this guy's basement. And yeah, I mean, ropa was inside man, right? He knew everything. And we're

supposed to think, Oh, we're supposed to be constantly questioning a bunch of things. This movie

wants to make you think, but it doesn't really, but I want you to make you think, Oh, they seem

awful lucky. I'm like, Oh, maybe there's divine intervention going on here. You know, they're,

they're, they're, I mean, it is what it is what told them, quote, unquote, told them to follow this

calling. Right. Yeah. They are like, they think on their own heads. Yeah. Because the communities

is, is amplifying that, right? The news is also amplifying that. Yeah. They're up their own

butts on this. They think that they're special. They think that they have a mission. They think

it's sent from God himself. And now they're, now they're, this even talks a little bit. It's

briefly, if you, if you listen to the dialogue, Willem Dafoe is, is delivering while they're,

why he's talking to the press and how they're amplifying and, and making things worse and how the

community member is not talking is also impeding. So it's, it's all of these things that may,

that are statements that want to make you think, but there's this not time because there's just this

crazy stuff going on on the screen, like Willem Dafoe, dance it around with a, with a,

with a CD Walkman. And why does he have one pair of rubber gloves in that, that leather pouch thing?

Yeah. And how often is he going to send clinger or whatever? His name was off to get coffee

and bagels or whatever. I actually like that. I actually like that they set up what Willem Dafoe's

character was by sending in team who first. And, you know, and, and he's just, was it Bob Marley?

Is, is that who's playing the character? Not that Bob Marley. This Bob Marley. Not that

Bob Marley. But I do like how he's described as a mildly competent police officer.

Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. So your big man theory, huh? I liked all of that. That really.

Yeah. I like it. I like to know how Bob Marley got this gig because like other than this, he's

just like very small talk, very small talk. Yeah. Yeah. We did a good job though. Well,

in that, when it, like when Ron Jeremy's in your thing, which we haven't talked about.

Well, well, you just said when Ron Jeremy's in your thing, in your thing. I'm, all right.

Well, let's face it, Roger. You know, he's most known for being on his own thing.

Yeah. That's true. Yeah. And he was, and he did that here. Like he was fiddling around and,

you know, while the, while the attack on the place was happening. But I don't, I don't, you know,

I don't just smurge someone saying, hey, Ron Jeremy's perfect for a disgusting porno man that we

need. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, that's who you'd call. And he's probably real cheap. Oh,

probably. Was it our first, I don't think this is the first attempt to, to try and to break over

into the mainstream, right? That was, he's his entire career. He gets hired for like $500 to be

a set for two days. Right. And like, like, this has been going on since the 80s. He's really hard

to look up on IMDB because IMDB lists porno. Every time, every time, every time my needle in the haystack

trying to find something that's not, yeah, every, every time somebody sticks it in there,

they go, no, take it down, take it down. Yeah. Yeah. The, uh, the amount of Purell that we would need

on a, on a film set, if you, I just, I don't know, it was like, uh, I don't have to touch Ron Jeremy

at all. Right. I don't know what you're saying. Oh, let's talk about what's gross got out the most.

I was expecting any time now for him to, uh, oh, what there was it was. No, it's, it's massive

tongue-kissing with freaking Willem Dafoe. That's Willem Dafoe. Okay. All right. You know what I,

prior to that though, you know what I wrote down? It's Willem Dafoe touching the ammonia, uh,

uh, uh, on the post, uh, and then sticking his two fingers right in that woman's face.

You know what? Then we get a yacht in a gross. Yeah. Gross. But those are both fitting in this

way. They're just like everything in this movie. Like you're, you're gonna be grossed out by a severed

human finger being stuck in your pocket. Like if you actually did up and stuck in your pocket,

you would be so grossed out. But like that happens over, that kind of thing, you know? And it's like,

it's like Troy Duffy was, was just sitting around brainstorming just like getting high and brainstorming.

What's definitely getting high? Gross things. We got a depict, right? Like we got a depict using

a, uh, a freaking iron to cauterize wounds. Yeah. I don't know why. Why would they do that? Yeah,

all three of them taking turns, man. Right. Also, I don't think they, who was in here? My wife

or somebody was here while I was watching it. Oh, no, it was Carter. She goes, what's this? I go,

we're watching Boondust Thanks. She goes, and it was that exact scene and she goes, I don't think

irons get hot enough to do that. I think it'll burn you, man. I'm not going to cut her out.

Yeah. Oh, you're going to do a split wound worse. Yeah. Right. Right. But it wasn't, it was the fun

little scene though, right? I mean, I mean, you know, it's, it's a, I don't know about fun. I mean,

I think it's fine because it's like, look at these morons, just dumbling through, just look after,

look, it's got to be divine intervention. Yeah. Right. That these guys, the dangling number open,

spinning around like falling through, but it's the whole like we're fighting up in the,

up in the air events, the, yeah, the raptors, yeah, yeah, the raptors is like, okay, come on,

yeah, guys. Hey, we shouldn't know what you're in for the minute. He pulled that toilet up and

threw it off a roof. You know what I mean? That was the effect. It was great effect. He said that

toilet looked like it was made. I mean, it definitely was made out of Styrofoam when it finally

hit the guy shattered, but the, the pieces look so thin. I'm like trying to figure out, all right,

is that like candy shell? What is that made from? Because that is not porcelain. I mean, what,

what works is you're like, he cares about his brother, that brotherly connection is so important

that he will do anything, including shredding his wrists, trying to get that toilet up. But it's too

hard for me jumping. Yeah. It's just too hard for me to have him do that. Me go, yeah, but you're

carrying a toilet up to the roof. And now you're on the roof. And did you even get your hands free

of the toilet? I don't know. It doesn't matter. Throw it. Well, I was entertained, but for the wrong

reasons, like I wouldn't, I couldn't take that seriously. Well, first of all, you're not supposed to

take that seriously. I think you're supposed to. I think they meant that to be very serious. I love it.

I love that they kept kind of doing, they did it, they did it just enough to kind of explain

the scenes. And mostly it was like exactly what's happening. But every once in a while, you get something

that was a little bit different. Like there's a there's a shot when they're first describing the

shootout with Billy Connelly's character. And they describe like six men because that's the kind

of firefighting that he does. But it's just the one guy. Well, it's because they found six different

bullet. Yeah, because he's he's just pulling out guns. He's not reloaded. He's just got more guns,

more guns, dude. Right. But it's funny they go right from I think it was six guys to,

nope, I think it was one guy with six guns. Never, never, what about three guys with two guns?

That seems like like that. Yeah, why'd they skip right over that? That's a good point. Yeah,

I didn't think of that. Three guys with two guns each. Perfect. I don't know. But by the

way, we dropped before we get too far away from it. I think dropping a toilet on somebody's head

from the fourth floor would freaking brain them. Like they would, it wouldn't just knock the

munkages into a pile of trash. Like there would be physical opening of the head. Yeah, yeah,

yeah. And, you know, I, I'm calling that my favorite scene in the movie because there's so

many things in this movie where you get a sense of Troy Duffy celebrating that he thought of,

thought up something like the two brothers dragging this heavy rope all the way over to a scene

and then using it to kind of get down. But they don't use it perfectly. They, it's a very imperfect

use of a rope. And like they're, they're like mad at each other about the rope. Yeah. And I'm just

like, you could just feel Troy Duffy going, yeah, I really thought of something unique. Like new to

movies. People are going to talk about the rope scene for a long time. Yeah, I agree with you.

There's these things in this movie that are like that. And like I appreciate them. I think it's

that the rope part was fine because I like that redis was wrong. You know, like there's some fun

to have there. But see, this is where I think my biggest beef with the movie is because it cuts away

to defoe re reimagining these scenes. We're never really sure as an audience. It's a bit of a

unreliable narrator to do that because you don't know if it happened just the way he's seeing it

is the movie saying that implicitly. And that's how good he is or is this a little bit made up or

he's filming in the gaps. We never really are told that. And that kind of sucks because I don't,

because you don't ever really quite know what the hell's happening for sure. And what I think I

would have preferred as much as Defoe saves the movie. And he really does. If it said it best to you.

Yeah, he elevated the whole thing. Yeah, 100% made everything better.

What's his classical music that he brought on set? Was that that might a minute? That was I saw

Duffy's band play some of the music now just. Oh, you could tell him, but you could tell

and try out these band played. Wait, the director was the carpenter film, the director's making the

music too. I mean, you can do it. It's just that was not great. And it was the audio levels for

when the band music was on was really bad. I don't know what was going on there. Yeah,

because some of it, there's a couple of like action scenes of some cool like electronic

stuff that I thought was all right. Yeah. But then they would this band stuff would play

in them like, why is the volume set at three? And otherwise it's silent and Rocco's walking around

and silence with barely, it sounds like a radio four miles away. Like it was very odd choices.

Anyway, back to my, I forgot my point. Well, how would I talk about Rocco's boob touching

and trying to be a saint? Well, it's a modern life. That was, yeah. That was great.

Good it. Yeah. Modern life, baby. Yeah. Right. Modern life. I love that.

Yeah. It's unfortunate. The, you know, this is, this is what they're exactly three women in

the movie. Basically, one of them gets less done touches and gets her boob touched. The other one

gets, let's talk about the figures shoved in her face. Yeah. No, let's talk about

Dot Marie Jones, who is a great character actress. And I was so glad to see her here arguing with

the brothers at the, at the loose meat plant. Oh, she is great. Yes. The third one. Yes.

I loved that whole scene. There's got to be Randy. What we have to have had her on before.

Right. We have a list of, she's been in so much stuff. Dot Marie Jones. She's been in

everything. She's great. That is actually our first Dot Marie Jones on film set. Oh, really?

No. Shocked by that, actually. Yeah. No, she, she was in many, many episodes of Glee and

all, all of her film performances seem to be kind of small. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's because

she's fun to watch. She's like, she'll come on and just eat the same thing and then she was like,

yeah, she was mama bearer in the Weird Al Yankovic movie a couple years ago.

Just, she's just a, she's just a very unusual person. Doesn't get major roles. Yeah. She doesn't

get credit. I think she's awesome. She made me smile. Looks like they could come on set and tear

the arms off any of the actors. Yeah. 100%. 100%. She's great. That whole first bit in the

meat packing thing felt like it was underdone and I liked it. I wanted more of that. All that meat

was underdone. It's got it was all right. I mean, like, you know, it meets some story each other

with beef tongue. Give me some meaningful backstory about these personalities and what shaped them.

And instead, that was the entire scene. The whole scene was to tell you these brothers are loved

by their co-workers. They're loved by their community. They can get away with anything, right?

Yeah. Like, that was the, I was all packed into this one little two-minute scene. Which is

it precisely might be. Is it precisely might be? Yeah, I feel like that's really good. I feel

it's great when you when you pack in so much backstory characterization. Yeah. If it works,

I just think that they're, I've seen movies that do this better. That's all. Of course. I liked it

though. I like the, the silliness of it. Yeah. I mean, because that kind of crap goes on.

People, they were, they were. You know what? I was entertained, but they were telling, like,

this is my second viewing, but I'm calling it my first because the first time I watched it, I was

sick laying on the couch, you know, taking the day off from doing any work. I remember the

meat packing scene and that's all I remember. So obviously, I fell asleep through the whole thing

and completely. Yeah. Well, you fell asleep real early on. Really early on. Yeah. Sick

nap. Like, like, the cat thing was a surprise. Like, everything was a surprise because I'd

slept through it all. I saw that movie. Yeah. First watching. Yeah. I totally saw that movie

the first. It's not a Netflix. Probably, oh, seven or something. I was eight early Netflix.

And I barely remembered any of it. So it was actually good for me to see it again.

Who was the stuttering Tourette's bartender? The doctor's over there. You know what he is?

The actor. I'll tell you, I'll tell you who he is right here.

He's your kiddie. Yeah, sink dude. Yeah, because he was cracking me up. He's the only f-bomber

I'm playing today. Yeah, when we get there, I know him from something though. I couldn't find

him in the cast. But I'm like, I was racking my brain. I'm like, I know this guy from side. I

thought I do love his mixed metaphors though. God. So funny. Yeah. He cracked me up. More of him,

please. And again, he was barely in it. Thatness Tourette's combined with his studies. Yes,

amazing. He was great. He was a star star in this film. Yeah. And also, why don't you go back to him?

Get more of him. He didn't die. Yeah. You could have had more. Right. Right. Maybe he's in the

sequel. Who knows? He could be. I'm not going to find out. No. It's a hard part of that.

I don't know. That is. Yes. Yes. That's true. Okay. Okay. Do we know him from anything?

Yeah. Many, many things. So apparently probably for I probably know him from Muppet Stuff. He's

been in a bunch of Muppet Stuff. A Muppet family Christmas. Really? It's something that

runs Jeremy by the way. Yeah. Trapped in paradise. This is why this guy was so familiar. I knew

I knew I've stormed the century. Yeah. I've seen this guy plenty of times before. I knew he was

so familiar. No longer with us. Yeah. Gerard Gerard Gerard Gerard Gerard. Oh yeah.

Old Bunchet Puppet Stuff. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Well, he's a ripe old age of 90. Well done.

Did it. Yeah. I wonder if in his bed he went F. S. I may or may not be playing that later.

Yeah. Let's see. What else there? Oh, I have some scrutiny. Let's see. Can I find it?

Here we go. This is the part is first parts real. The second parts scrutiny. So here we go.

Says here in the tray or in the trivia. The prayer the brother saved before killing

their victims is not in the Bible. We knew that. That's well documented. But here's what it says.

It's something Troy Duffy wrote for the film and then it says his dad helped. That's great.

That's just a weird thing. No, that's actually good because that means probably Billy Conley's

character was probably kind of inspiration for maybe the dad in some ways. Not like a direct.

I'm saying I don't know that his dad helped him do shit. Yeah.

The scrutiny isn't if that's a good thing. The scrutiny is if that really happened.

The tribute should also end with and was inspired by Samuel L. Jackson giving a Bible quote before he

shoots people. Yeah, very good point. I like a good religious murderer killer. I like that.

Oh, I'm into it too. I like I like religious ferocity when it comes to the stories. I don't

like it real life. Freaking sucks ass. No, no, it sucks for life. It makes an interesting

character, but no real life. It sucks. Yeah, it's the same reason I really like

space religion in my science fiction. I'd love a good space religion.

Lord Zantar, the fifth son, or whatever. Spans was really good with that.

Oh, yeah, that one was great because it brought that current stuff to, you know, fictional stuff.

That was great. I mean, do you remember that God's Zilla animated thing they did on Netflix? I

really loved the religious. I didn't see it. Was it? I kind of remember it was CG, right?

Like a CG thing. It was presented like a 2D, but I believe it was. Most of the stuff is done.

It tells me maybe like 2D anime characters with 3D God's Zilla. I remember being like kind of

interested and then I thought, Visitor's beautiful. I loved the kind of religious space

religion kind of thing like you were talking about that was in it. Yeah, I'm into it, dude. I

mean, it's basically the whole, the whole of Dune. The jane book is just, oh, yeah, right.

Fanaticism and on a galactic scale. I freaking love that. Huge fan. So, yeah, when it's used, right?

It's great. No problem. And also, okay, I'll tell you where it's used, right?

Samuel L Jackson and Paul Fiction. Yeah, he nails it. He nails it. He's up there preaching

scripture like it's coming from his soul. Yes, but he's doing the worst things possible and

shouldn't be a hitman if he's really a man of the cloth. You know, it's just perfect

juxtaposition written so well acted so exquisitely. These guys are over here just trying to

wing it. Yeah, you know, maybe that's and that's my big part of voice, though.

Right. Obviously, they're they are dealing with people who are horrible, you know,

mafia guys who've killed and need to be cleaned up the streets and all that sort of thing.

But at least with with Samuel L Jackson's strike you down with righteous fury.

It feels like there's there's a I don't want to do this, but I have to do it kind of thing

with with Jackson and I don't get that. Yeah. And I don't get that with the twins here.

And maybe that's that's what you could do in the in the TV series. Boondock sings the TV series

to make a little bit more or you have one of the brothers secretly working with the William

to folk character to try and bring his twin brother in safely.

Right. So if a so if a pulp fiction series went to HBO, the prestige name like

HBO, or you mean a pulp fiction, but if Boondock Saints, so I'm just in this scenario,

I see just where does Boondock Saints go? Is it a peacock deal? Is it a to be? All right.

You know what? That's exactly right. That hurts. That is exactly right.

Ouch. Freebie went away, right? It's freebie gone. I think it's freebies part of

that's primal I think. Yeah, Amazon started it and then changed the name and I don't know what

they were. Yeah. Which is good because it was a terrible name. It was a terrible name. Freebie. Yeah.

Although, man, I watched some to be stuff this week. I rewatched the Revenant on to be.

I love the Revenant and seems like a weird movie to love, but whatever I love it. Yeah. And

man, to be has so much variety of stuff, schlocky stuff, animation, old stuff, new stuff.

It's one of the best streaming catalogs, period, but they make me do commercials on a TV or

something. I will only watch it on a browser, so I can block it. Please let me. It's the one time

I'm asking a streaming service to charge me money so I don't have your ads and they won't do it.

Yeah. Right. Domazes hate it. Anyway. So I wish. I wish.

I wish it was a pay per view ad removal. Like if they said 99 cents for this viewing,

remove ads, I'd pay it every time. That's interesting. Would you do that? I guess it depends

on how much you're doing it, right? That makes sense if you're not. Like it's a, but you either

want a buffet or you want a plate, right? And then you're saying, oh, I don't want the buffet.

I'll have the plate. I think there's logic in that. I like that. I don't know why I said,

I don't know why I did that. Speaking of that noise, why is there so much yelling in this movie?

It sure relies on it too much. So much. And yelling from out of nowhere, like it's, you know,

usually things escalate, but if you come in zero to 60 immediately, especially especially

to pose characters. He's going through the crime scenes. He just starts yelling for no reason.

I want you to know my original poem for social media post was a high coup about how they yell.

I'm going with something different, but I was originally just like, man, these guys yell a lot.

I have the feels like a high coup. Like you could write poetry about how much yelling is going on.

So much yelling in this thing. Gosh dang it. Don't rely on yelling so much. No, it's like trying to

bring this false sense of energy. This just not really doesn't exist. And you know, like Willem DeFoe

has made a career of angry acting. He's just like, he's very good at it. So he's the perfect green

goblin because he has that ability to like yell at a mid volume. Next year from this, by the way,

I think so. Right? Or no, that was a one. Right. A couple years, but yeah, he was. Well,

William's got that you could just look at Willem DeFoe and go, this guy's going to yell.

You can just see his face. But we like, but he's really good at it. That's right because he's,

yeah, he's, he's equipped for it. And he's also aging into somehow with the ugliest man in Hollywood

is aging like a fine wine. I don't know how he did it or is doing it. And he's so good. He's so

popular now. Like he's, you could argue Willem DeFoe is at the height of his career in his 60 or

70. He's 70. He's 70. Sorry. Just turned 70. Yeah. He's so good at patronizing you. It just

feels, it feels wonderful. It's like, Oh, yes. Please patronize me next. Please. I, I love it when

you do that. He's, he's good at that. He's very good at it. And I'm glad he was in this. I was,

I think this is a way harder watch without him. So he had least entertained me. You know,

sure. I was it. Go ahead. I was not just talking about some of the other actors real quick. Like

Billy Connelly, I didn't, I didn't give him a look. I could, I wish I had a more of him. And I

could have totally done without the bird cage roll him in on a dolly scene for the parole. I,

I didn't, I didn't. Oh, like when they had him that little bird cage and they rolled him in on

a dolly. Well, that's because that's because there's no answer to it. There's no like good

follow up. Right. Yeah. It's just that scene exists in a little bubble. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And again, you're not wrong. They're channeling a better movie. They're, they're saying,

hey, remember Hannibal Lecter and how dangerous he was. How we can't keep him in chains and shackles

and face masks. And well, here's one of those dudes. And it's like, now, that would have been

perfect in a pure comedy. But it was, this is not supposed to be pure comedy. This has comedic moments.

But the, the parts that made me smile. I never really laughed. But the parts that made me smile were

the brothers interactions. I thought they were pretty funny together. Yeah. Yeah. And then some

defot things. That was about it. Yeah. Did you, did you laugh at the Ivan or the check-off joke

in the bar? Did you like it? So remind me. I forgot. Did I forget it? I probably forgot. Now we

just need a, now we just need a spark. We got check-off and. Oh, yeah. Yeah. A little Star Trek

connection. That isn't really a connection. But I like it. Randy, put that on your list.

It's funnier now that you bring it up than it was at the time. Yeah. Yeah. Good point.

Yeah. You know what? For those who are going to write in and say, I can't believe you guys

didn't like my favorite movie. It's, I liked it. Just, I liked it. Just fine.

I like that. I like it. To them, I say more for you. You can have my share. Yeah. Let's

forget. Yeah. I heard a, you can have my portion. I had this great. I just saw this interview

this morning and I sent it to, and then as soon as I did, they, for some reason, they account

deleted it. But I'll tell you what it was because it was, it's related to this. It was about

Hudson Hawk, but it was the actor. Oh, great actor. He's in a million things. He's won Oscars.

Now I can't think of his British actor. Richard Grant. You're in your grant. Thank you.

Richard. He grant. Richard. He grant is talking and they asked him and he says, well,

some time ago, many years ago, I was doing a, a real disaster of a film called The Hudson

Hawk. And I went, well, that's, that's fighting words. You can't say that about. No, he's, he's,

I mean, he's right. I mean, I'm not, I'm never am I going to defend that. That's a good movie,

but it's a movie I like. You know, it's, there's a, there's a big difference. And so it's for

people, you know, like people who love Boondock Saints, maybe they feel the same way. It's not a great

movie, but it's a movie I like. Yeah. Yeah. And that's okay. We're not for you. I'll take your

Hudson Hawk portion, portion, and you can have my Boondock Saints portion. We had one, I had a guy

message me this week. I don't know if he'll hear this or not because I sounded iffy on whether

he's listening to film tack anymore, but he basically was raven about the network and going,

I love all the frog band shows and TMS this and play retro that and all the stuff. And he goes,

ah, film sack, though, I think has lost its way, but everything's great. And I wrote to him. I

said, I am very curious what you mean by lost its way. And all he meant was, who's an older guy,

all he meant was none of the movies that we watch seem to be movies he's seen or cares about.

Oh, okay. And I think that that's an interesting take because he didn't really mean me lost our

way because honestly, we started with crawl. Like there are a lot of people who begin two

shits about crawl. Trust me. Um, I think it's just important to note that that we are sometimes

going to hit a film and it'll be your favorite or you can't wait or awk can't believe it's been

this long and you haven't done it. And then there are going to be people going, Boondock, who,

I got right. I don't know what that is. What movies did he want us to do for film sack like,

like Oscar, you know, the English patient and I don't know is very strange conversation.

And again, no beef. It's just weird. Before we go too far away from it, by the way, Richard Grant,

Richard Grant was also in spice world. So yeah, there you go. So maybe he needs to be a little

pickier about his role. Maybe or maybe he's the he's the greatness that elevates those two things

to why I like them. I just watched that Nuremberg, the new one with Russell Crowe and stuff.

Yeah, it's awesome. By the way, very cool. Um, it's, it's got some liberties that it's taken,

but for the most part, quite, quite good. The acting is incredible. And Richard, he

Grant plays a very important part in it and he is so good in it. I would recommend that movie on

Russell Crowe's performance alone. That surprised me because he's playing German chancellor,

Herman, uh, uh, uh, I really, I really have a film with Russell Crowe that I don't

I kind of feel the same, dude. I don't, I think we get too wrapped up and oh, he's gladiator.

And he was pissed and threw a phone at someone once and you know, all these problems or whatever,

but he never, I feel like I never get a phone didn't thing from him. He's always great.

Except for that reverse cheeseburger thing we saw here, though.

I always forget that that was him. What was the, was that close? Uh, something man, uh,

something man, was he a fire? No, it was him in Denzel and there was future. It was something

the future and he kept, he could try time travel or something or teleporter or some weird thing he

could do. Uh, the more you describe it, the less I'm convinced I actually watch. Yeah,

like 90, you're discussing 95 or early stuff. I mean, I type virtuosity, virtuosity, right?

virtuosity, man, this is what it was called. That's right. Yeah. Was there a man in it? There's no

no, no, no. I see, man, I think I was confused because the more Scott was describing, I'm like,

I don't know this at all. Yeah. Yeah. We watched that and that's where, if it first said,

I got the virtuosity burger. Yep. That went really stuck. Yeah. Um, but yeah, like whatever,

Russell Crows great. Everyone should watch him and everything. Um, okay. Let's move now. Let us

accept Craven the hunter. I was poopy. That was not good. Yeah. I'll tear you wasn't his fault,

but no, no, none of the people in that movie are a problem. They're all right. Exactly. Yeah.

Taylor, John Taylor, Joy, Michael, is it the, is it the running, is it the running theory?

The reason why we keep getting crappy stuff like that is because it's part of the Spider-Man

universe. And if they don't, if they don't do something with it, they lose it. Yeah. Yeah.

And that what that is the deal, right? Tony has a, I don't think it's the theory. I think it's

true. They have to be part of that. And I think Sony really thinks, well, this time, I think

with Madam Webb, we're really going to nail it. Yeah. Right. And sometimes they get it, sometimes

they get it right. The Venoms aren't that bad. They're pretty good. They're okay. The Spider-Man

Odyssey. Oh, yeah. Those are incredible. They're fantastic. Yeah. Those, you know what? Just make

more of that shit. Those are good in spite of Sony's involvement. Yeah. And they're, you know,

they're the production house team studio, whatever for the new noir thing happening on prime.

Yeah. I'm, I'm really excited about that. You can watch it in black and white or color. Oh,

shit. There's bun option. Yes. Oh, crap. I don't know. Dude, I kind of want to, I think I'm going

to watch it black and white. I think I might too. Yeah. What are we even doing if it's not in black

and white? Right. I do have a, I do have a fun little trivia question for you guys. Just a quick,

quick little game. I mean, I'm going to, I'm going to name six movies. Do it. Okay. And I want you

to know one of them has 10% on Rotten Tomatoes. It's the worst of the six. Okay. And one of them

has 58% on Rotten Tomatoes. And it is the best of the six. Okay. All right. All right. So now,

and then I'm going to, I'm going to give them to you in order. Do you want us, I was going to say,

do you want us to like put them in the order that we think they aren't around? No, I just told you

that I want you to guess one or the other. This, I think this one is the lowest. I think this one

is the highest. Okay. Here are the six movies. Venom. Venom let there be carnage. Morbius.

Madame Webb. Venom the last dance. Craven the hunter. Craven's the lowest. No, no, Madame Webb's

the lowest. Madame Webb is the lowest. The third, the third venom is the highest. The last was

he was was the third one. I'll bet that one is the highest. It's venom one. Yeah. Venom let there

be carnage. Yeah. Morbius. Madame Webb. Venom the last dance. Craven the hunter. I think the last

that's obviously that too. Last dance is the highest. Madame Webb is the lowest. I'm going to say

first venom highest. Madame Webb. Okay. So my, my first, you all got the lowest correct and I would

like to know how. Well, because that's a shit movie. I've seen it. I think of all of us. I think

I might be the only one too. I just like to know how you distinguish it as being lower than Morbius

and Craven. That's my question. Well, yeah. I mean, it's not about whether you'd like to

more or less. It's about what we think. My father stood or my mother studied spiders in whatever

is that whatever that line was. The doubt repeated all over the place. Yeah. Herimal Morbius. I

personally think Morbius is worse than Madame Webb, but that's it doesn't matter. So then the top

of the top of those, the 58% is venom let there be carnage. Oh, the middle venom. Interesting.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think, I think it's Tom Hardy is the reason. I think so. Are the

all three venoms the top three rated in your list? Yes. That makes sense. It's funny because

I thought the third one was so much better than the first two. I thought, oh, wow. Okay. If they

had done this from the start, I'd be excited about more venom movies once I saw the third one.

You know how I, I always talk about Tom Hardy in 2015 specifically for movie. Yeah. Well,

I always forget because I just watched it. I always forget. Yeah. I'm not doing. I'm not going

there. I always forget that the same year and it won him an Oscar nomination. It was the

Revenant and he's so freaking good in there. Holy shit. He's good. You want to kill him in it,

but he's so good. That means he's doing it right. Yeah. Never never forget. Tom Hardy wrote

venom. The last dance. I didn't know that. Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that at all.

What was that one where he's his own twin brother? What was that one? Oh, uh, twins. No, um,

I keep wanting to watch that one. Yeah. It's great. It's very good. Oh, it was the recent,

it was a recent series. Well, I would not have moved. Yeah, I was thinking. I was thinking. No,

that's my blend. I was thinking of my blend. It's awesome. I was watching this one. I was like,

oh, you know, it really looks like themselves. Themself? Yeah. No, that movie isn't that great,

but he's, he's incredible as both those dudes. I put it up there with like how good, uh,

it does pretty good playing himself. Michael, be Jordan. Talk to himself. Yeah, he's good.

Venom. Uh, let's get to some clips. Guys, we got a handful here. There's not a ton because it's

just a lot of yelling, but I did get what I got. And we'll see how it goes here. Let's start with

this one. It's Norman Reedus and his accent. I know you two bricks would give me problems.

Come on. It's the same part. It's all in good fun. It's all in good fun. I'm sort of,

this is the best I'm going to get for the rest of this movie. It's kids are trying to take me like

your charms. Oh, it's very much that. Um, all right. We'll, let's see. What's this one? Oh,

we'll make you go. If you won't go, we will make you go. We will make you go. That was not a very

good Russian accent either. Uh, how, this is how DeFoe orders this coffee. Why don't you get me a

cup of coffee? What the hell is it? What the fuck? Sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet. I was

forget how his S's, his S is a real prominent. Yeah. A lot of sweet and low. You got another one

actually. This one right here. Onion bagel cream cheese cream cheese. I love that one.

All right. I'm leaving in this F bomb. Anyone out there listening, close your kids ears or whatever.

It's a short one. It's the Tourette's one. For some reason that helps me justify it. I don't know

why. But anyway, here it is. Right. Fuck. I loved him. Yeah, Tourette's. That's just one of the 246

F bombs you'll hear. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, here's, I like those pudd pulling sissy sissy's lines.

Pretty good. There you go. I'd like to thank whichever one of you donut munching barrel asked

pod pulling sissy's leak this to the press. Good lord. I haven't heard pudd pulling in so long. No,

that's great. Yup. Bring it. We're bringing pugs back. Bring it back. Yeah. You can't, you can't

have a police station without someone yelling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of that recently. Lots of

paperwork and typewriters in the background. Yeah. And a ringing phone that nobody answers. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. The stereotype is real, man. Here's the phone. Again, saying it'd be okay if your

mom's all right with it. Here you go. Well, we'll have to check with your mom.

But it's okay with me if your friend's sleep over. He just livers that line. He's so creepy,

but so perfect. It's crazy. They're and correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't get any

bit in a certain life trying to do, trying to impersonate Willem Defoe. Is he just un impersonatable?

Oh, really good question. Is anybody, somebody check on that guy that does all the really good

impressions? Maybe he's got one. The caliando guy. Oh, Frank Caliando. There's nobody he can't do,

but I've never heard him do that. Yeah. Maybe he's one of those voices that you just can't freaking

replicate him. Must be hard. Yeah. Exactly. I can't do it. I'm trying to say, no, not that that's

a litmus test of any kind, but it's like, wait, it's good. Can't do it. Can you ask your man?

Say, man, I just can't do it. Well, you're a man. Now, now, see, now.

All right. Give me, give it here, package boy. Give it here, package boy. I like that. I don't

know what that was. It was a cop or something. No, that was the, the mob guy, right? Was that,

was that Ron Jeremy? It's when he showed up with the packages, right? Give it here, package boy.

I don't think it was a rocker showed up. Was it? Okay. Yeah, I don't know if that was. I don't

think I got Ron talking. He looks like a cop, but he's not a cop. He's the mob boss. He's the

Italian mob boss, right? No, he's the moment to dig accent, right? Oh, it's because the guy,

it's his sandwich is in there. Yeah. Yeah. All right. And this, and now this is him, though.

Bastardo. Bastardo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When he gets mad, though, he gets very Italian. I swear,

there's a different. Give it here, package boy. That's a different guy. I think. I don't know. Okay.

There were, but there were like four guys in that room. So I don't know. I don't know what's

going on there. Here's a great shit. It came from greenly. The guy that had to go get coffee all

the time. And this is a, this is a new keeper. Check this out. Shit. Good one. Yeah. Yeah,

Bar Martley. That's right. All right. You guys heard this. I'll play it again. It kind of makes

me feel like River dancing. Yeah. It's a way to deliver that. It's beautiful. It's kind of a

rude remark toward the Irish. I didn't know a little bit there. Really? River dancing was huge

at the moment at the moment. Yeah. We made fun of it. Right? We made sure. I didn't always

ready to get it. I'm like, oh, how do they do that? I would, I want a river dance. I would pay

money to see you River dance. I would, I have to have a lot of practice. And I just don't have

that kind of. Well, I would love to. Yeah, you have to tell June 11th. I was just thinking,

I don't have anything to do between now. I'm just going to River dance my way to other life.

Yeah, get that going. Might not even need a plane ticket. Just River dance your way across the USA.

You would make, you would make headlines. You would have, yeah, you go viral. People would

follow you. You'd make a big bunch of money. You should do it. It'd be good for your health.

Yeah. I'd break my leg going out the front steps. It would never work out. You wouldn't

you make it out to the porch. Yeah. That sounds like me. All right. Here's Defoe eating up some

scenes. What is this? I don't know. It's a weirdo. Yeah. Okay. Like this is like a seven,

I, what? Oh, like seven, 11, right? Yeah. Right. And I wrote this Darryl saying this or

sorry. Yeah. Darryl Dixon says this. Sort of like seven, 11. We're not always doing business,

but we're always open. Yeah. He thinks the shortcut to an Irish accent is sing song and he's wrong.

He's wrong. Yeah. He's right. Yeah. That's not good. I love his look though. And by the way,

who's the big star today from this thing? He is. Yeah. He's your biggest star outside of Defoe.

So like I can't knock him. I think he's great actually. Well, Ron Jeremy in certain circles.

What kind of circles jerks? I want to run Jeremy makes.

Is Ron Jeremy currently in prison? I'm asking. Okay. I thought he was. It's not a good idea

to ask AI anything because it never gives you a verified definition. You know, when I asked it,

it told me that a Nora won the Oscar in 2024 and 2025. Yeah. It doesn't know. Yeah. I tried.

I tried quietly, maybe not so quietly, asking Google AI while you guys were talking about it,

what episode of film sack includes reverse cheeseburger? And it was like stymied. It had no idea.

Oh, yeah. I do not know what you're talking about. Call me when it can get that shit, right?

Just ask it. What is the what is the origin of the term reverse cheeseburger and see if it

close those? Oh, I would love it if it just hallucinated some bullshit. It wasn't correct.

The answer is Ron Jeremy has been out of the free world since June 2020. Yeah.

And he was in jail for a part of the last five years. And as of late 2023, he was moved from

anything like a jail to something like a private residence because of his severe dementia.

Yeah. His health is. Oh, wow. Oh, no, we know why. I don't know why. He's all that some women.

He was terrible. He was a terrible guy. I don't know why. I'm not like on the that Ron Jeremy

Google email alert list or something. I don't know. Yeah. I shouldn't. I shouldn't act like

everybody knows, but basically it was kind of a big new story, but it also it was like this test of

people with their reaction to that. Well, of course he is. He's in porn. Nothing good happens in

porn. And then and then a bunch of other people coming to hold on. I'm at it. I work in porn.

And it's a very we're very respectful of the there was this whole argument about it. I'm like,

well, hey, maybe it was just one douchebag who we all happen to know who he is, but he just is a douche.

Well, and they made a point in his rape trial of finding counts to hold against him that happened

entirely outside of any kind of filmmaking. Yeah. So it was it was all of the of the like three

dozen counts of rape that he was tried for were like at his residence or at someone else's

residence, you know, and private. Okay. So it was okay. So it was like a, I don't want to know too

much about this one. I might even. Yeah. Why would you ask? So I'm like, I'm like, so yeah,

because I was worried about that because on set, I mean, there's lots of accusations and I'm sure

true accusations of drug use and getting individuals into these situations. And I was as curious

if it was like a part or larger suit of the whole industry, but it sounds like you actually.

No, but you're doing the natural thing. Yeah, you're doing the natural thing that everybody did,

which was yeah, yeah, it's hard not to it's hard not to talk about his job. I have questions.

Yeah, I have questions. Yeah, I don't want to have questions, but I have them. Yeah, we may not

even want answers. Oh, we got them. Yeah. Here's Rocco. Oh, Rocco yelling what when his name

was yelled a lot of yelling again. Here you go. All right. Yeah, I like that. I liked that I

didn't like that guy. David dollar Rocco. Yeah, that you didn't like him. Yeah, I didn't, I don't

know why, but I just didn't like him. And that was like that put a smile on my face. It was part of

the it was a part of the role it felt like you were supposed to or maybe we were supposed to like

I don't know, dude. I didn't like him at all. Like when he's when he's being held at gunpoint

to tell a joke. I'm just like, okay, this guy's not very good at this. A whole acting thing.

But you know, I put a smile on my face because he was just like, you know, being held at gunpoint

and he was like shivering. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, he was he was whatever he is. He looks like Ron

Jeremy's double stand-in at times. Yeah, right now anyway. All right. What is this music?

That sounds like some stomach. It's easy from from the other movie that will be full with him. Yeah.

Yes. It's that different. I dug that. Yeah, not dig it. I mean, I loved it. So when you

it's so cheesy. All right. Here's the great death of the week. Enjoy. All right. That's it. That's the death.

And I like the way that guy yelled. All right. Well done, everybody. Now this.

Let's get to the social media post. The film's a checklist. Yeah, I'm so nervous about skipping it.

I tried to get it. I do. I do that sometimes. Good. Everybody. Anyway, wants to be wants to be

Tarantino, but Quentin can't quite get there. Check wants to be Scorsese, but can't quite get there.

Check. Darryl Dixon really wants to have an Irish accent, but can't quite get there. Check. Check.

Star Trek and MCU connections. I know of a couple, but Randy, you've got the list. Only one

Star Trek. And it's a forthcoming appearance. The actor Joe Ping, who was Geno in this movie,

is in Star Trek section 31. Oh, okay. So since there's only one of those, let's do several

from MCU. We got Carlo Rota, who was Yacaveta in this film, played Luca Russo and Marvel's

agents of shields. We have Kevin Chapman, who played Chappy in this film, but there's a trend there,

by the way, in this film. Kevin Chapman played Chappy was in Marvel's The Punisher, as Kusak.

And then of course, you know, without a doubt, our two big ones, Norman Reedus, who was Murphy

in this film was in Blade 2. And we talked about him. I'm sure when we sacked Blade 2.

Yeah. Right. We sacked Blade 2. We did. We did. We did. We did. We didn't do any of the John,

the John Wickey's in. Did we? Or no? We didn't. We haven't done any John Wics. Okay.

By far our biggest connection, you know, Marvel or Star Trek is Willem DeFoe,

as you know, Smecker in this film, he's really not that far off of Norman Osborne. No, he really

isn't. Kind of kind of got a core character in him. Maybe this turned him into its canon,

this turned him into the. I mean, the guy we got make him rich. We got four credits for him

as Norman Osborne, which feels like too many, but it's because they love to show

flashbacks in Spider-Man movies. That's true. Plus in the third one, he was a,

he helped Spider-Man, right? Wasn't that the deal? And the fourth or fourth? Was it?

Everybody was helping the Spider-Man's. The last one. The third one with Holland.

It was the fourth one with, oh, I see what you're saying. Toby McGuire. Yeah.

It was first one with the McGuire, wasn't it? Well, he was in the first one with McGuire,

but, but no way home is also with McGuire. It's the fourth one with Toby McGuire. Look what

they've done to us. Look what they've done. I know. Yeah, he was by the way, exceptional in that,

by the way, exceptionally funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Norman Reedus in Boondock Sates and Blade

2. We have seen him in a third film on film. And he guesses. Oh, geez. Oh, the Horking Dead. No,

all the motorcycle because he plays a pretty good tragic character lots of times. I'm trying to

find it. I cannot think of it. I defy you to think of it. We sacked this movie 13 years ago.

What the heck is that? 13 years ago this week. We sacked this movie. Wow.

What is that? I have no idea. I got the movie. The movie is mimic. The

I mean, we're a Serbino. Yeah, tell Del Toro movie. It's a big sense. Yeah, I like mimic.

Mimic. It's also the Mimic. Mama can knock you out. I think is in it.

And Norman Reedus, I think Norman Reedus is the 11th named person in that movie. He s far

below people like Charles S. Dutton and Giancarlo Janini. Well, I think this is you're talking

right around. Yeah, he's right. Yeah. Was it was it really 2000s? I think it was. No, he was before

it was before Boondock Saints. Mimic was 90. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. We didn't know

he was 2010 is when that show started and things were about to turn for him. I don't know why I

know that year. You know what? I would say Boondock Saints was his turn. It really established him.

Well, but it took five years. And then another three he was on. Yeah, that's fair.

The cult status kicked in by then, right? Yeah. Yeah. I remember thinking he was cool when I first

saw it and I went, I don't like this movie, but I like this. Who are the brothers? Kind of.

And then his kid. Who's his kid? Yeah, there's something about him. And now we know.

It's not an Irish accent, I think. Well done. Awesome. Let's get to the soundtrack

created. Give it an AVMB for a very mixed bag. Okay. There are moments I really liked.

And I thought we're perfect for the scene. And then there were times where I was like, what are

you doing? That was probably the band. Yeah. Well, well, let's see. Let's get to the social media post.

In 280 characters or less is how long you've got to sum this thing up. Let's start this week with

Randy Jordan. The Boondock Saints, they really stuck their necks out on a limb. We'll burn that bridge

when we get to him. Brothers get their ducks on the same page, like beating a dead horse to water

with their rage. Nice. Well done. Very well done today. All your little weird extras today have

been excellent. Yeah. It's been excellent. Brian Dunno why be excellent. The Boondock Saints,

like what I assume every St. Patrick's Day is like in Boston. Patrick, that's not how we

witchings work. Not at all. You're right about that. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, finally, Brian,

but the Boondock Saints, this made a lot of noise and a lot of yelling and a lot of screaming,

this movie really shit the bad. Oh, nice. Very nice. I wasn't sure if that would cover,

if I, if I do, oh, no, it does it. It covers you. I always do. Yeah. So you get a sworn. I could

have sworn this movie. Yeah. Yeah. That was good. I got to be careful with it. That was

really get it right. But you need to have some of the Fs. So it's this movie. Yeah. Yeah.

The F and then at the end, I did say fun and just in case. Yeah. They like, they like to say

fishing. If you get it right, fishing, you can say, can you fishing? Yeah. But if you get an in

there, it ruins the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really get it right.

Funding. That works pretty good. Yeah. Well, fun movie. Really. That's pretty good.

Okay. I don't remember that. I'm going to make some fake ones. That's good. All right. Well,

done on the social media post. It is time for us to, they could look at these alternate titles.

These are crazy. I just got handed these. It was almost called the sham rock taints.

And then that are, they almost went with Rocco's modern knife.

See, look, we're all killing it today. This is good stuff. Best written episode by all parties.

I'm impressed with all our work today. Let's get to some emails and see if we're impressed with you.

This is an email film sack of gmail.com from Daniel about the movie juice. Daniel says this.

I'm surprised when talking about the term nappy donut. Sorry, nappy dugout. Sorry.

I don't know why I read that. I remember I was talking about that. It was nappy donut. It was the

comment. The kind of chubby, funny ones head. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The context has left

me. But anyway, it said something about a nappy donut and meeting a girl. And she was a nappy donut

or something. Anyway, yeah. Okay. He says, I'm very surprised when that came up that Brian,

if it did not know that awesome Funkadelic song, nappy dugout, keep saying donut. By the way,

the term refers to a certain part of the lady's body that you used to look for. What part

cave shaped like it? He says. Oh, apart. Tell us the bajina. Yeah. Though if you're breakdown on

the term, sorry, though, if you break down the term, you couldn't see a cave since it would be

covered. That's true. And yes, that's what the song is about also. So there you go. Nappy dugout.

Gross. Next up. Now I'm out of covers of that one in my library. No. Do you have any? You

probably don't have any. No, no, no. You don't have like a, you don't have like a, I don't know,

two live crew cover band or anything like that. Nothing. Nope. The postmodern jukebox just hasn't

touched that one for some reason. Don't away. Never say never. Uh, let's get to this email from Kevin

AKA Icore, our old pal Icore wrote in and says, hello, Sackettes, uh, a well actually on the Ralph

Bakshi version of Lord of the Rings. While the movie, I guess we talked about this couple weeks ago,

when we talked about Lord of the Rings, while the, uh, the movie is compressed version of the story,

it only includes the first two books of Lord of the Rings. It basically ends after Helm's deep.

The reason is they basically ran out of money. If you wanted to see the complete story, you had to

watch the Rankin and Bass animated version of Return of the King. It's silly and for kids,

but it's also kind of fun. As an aside, I know I didn't even know they did that. No. Oh, yeah.

I've never seen that in the documentary. Yeah, this, this really requires that people stay awake

to see the end of the thing. And it's just. I love it. Yeah. Great. Great warning, though.

It says that just in a side, the Rankin and Bass version of the Hobbit is a good way to

induce people, introduce people to Lord of the Rings movies. If you don't want to read that book,

it's short. It includes enough of the story to understand who is who when you watch fellowship.

It also got my kids into the lore says Kevin. Well, once again, Kevin swinging in with the good

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God Jesus in the Holy Ghost. Yeah, it's like that. So it's kind of one, but all anyway.

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