First Ring Daily 1924: Apple's Neo

Almost got you mid drink. I know I had. I didn't realize what I was doing and I rushed it. I probably sucked some down my wind pipe. So I'll be fine.

Well, Apple being Apple is not doing their usual post their PR right exactly as you're recording. So Paul and I tried to be strategic. I'm like, you know what, we both had the same thought like, hey, we should wait 10 minutes, whatever.

Apparently, we also both said, and that will be the day they don't do it by the schedule. They did the last two days in a row. And yep.

And that's what they've done. So apparently they're having like small events hosted. It looks like New York City. I'm not exactly sure where this is from.

Yeah, I think they were three of them. Yeah, right.

But we got the basics here. So Apple has announced a MacBook Neo, which will be the new entry level MacBook. They didn't want to just go with MacBook.

Whatever, 599, a 18 pro chip 13 and screen side firing speakers. Wait a minute. Hold on, let's say you said a 18 pro. That's, that's not the latest one. Right.

Like isn't the new aren't the new iPhones on a 19.

Well, let's find out. What is an iPhone 17 pro here as I got a van to cross their website here.

You think they could match these numbers up by the way, but whatever. No, they think it's 19. Why don't they just have like a text specs. They do.

Where I have more parallax on this web page than should be humanly possible on a page.

Like if you go to the one of the pro pages, start scrolling, you'll see a text. I'm trying. I am three quarters. I don't know if you know how to use the web browser read, but

Oh, my God, this web pages.

Up to X faster.

Kind of processor. Actually, I probably would have been faster. Oh, there we go. Finally, if you get to the bottom, a 19 pro chip, you are correct.

So unless somebody tweeted the wrong spec here, which is plausible, but

So they're promising 16 hours of battery life. It will come in indigo blush citrus and silver. And you'll be able to preorder starting on a looks like March 11th. So that's the same days. All the other stuff. Yeah, well, all right. So the big one though, it's going to be the RAM. The RAM and storage. I've not seen about the RAM is going to be eight then because

When if you're even going to be able to upgrade that, that might be that might be a real weird sticking problem or whatever I'm trying to say, um, 1080p webcam touch ID support, apparently.

Yeah, all right. So actually in the in the Apple store app on my iPad, I can actually get into this thing. So 256k base storage, which is down from the air, right now. There we go. Now it's online.

It doesn't say anything about RAM. You can't configure any RAM. So it just comes with what it comes with you. There is no version where you can be like, but I need 16 gigs RAM.

So they're not even saying what the RAM is on the order page. Um,

So colors is not quite as fun as people were expecting. I mean, they look like I've had colors. I guess is the yeah, that's

pre-order. I do still have questions, but I feel like they've been answered by you not mentioning this anywhere. It's like there is no

There's no mention of RAM anywhere. So yeah, 256 gigs storage with the magic keyboard, which is whatever. Yeah.

And then oh, and you don't get a touch ID unless you upgrade.

So if you go to 512, you get the touch ID as well. So that's $700. I mean, this is, you know, it

I just wish there was a RAM upgrade thing, um, because I really, or maybe there's 16 and they're just not saying that. But I think I think eight gigs of unified memory.

What does this say?

If you scroll down, at least on the on the order page, 13 inch back with Neo and Indigo, eight gigs of unified memory 512 gigs of storage.

Yikes. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, so this is, you know, they had that we would talking about this. I think great. The M1 that went, uh, MacBook here that they were selling at Walmart.

That was the big thing. It's like, that was perfectly viable except for the

eight gigs of RAM. Um, I, that, that we're going to get back into that conversation where like eight gigs is fine. If you're not doing that much, I was like, yeah,

try to get that. But, uh, boy, well, it's not quite a

stuck in gen iMac when they had those, you know, colorful color, whatever, but I don't know. It's still like silver.

Not white black and then two sort of yellow colors. I don't know.

These don't look, I mean, you know, like the iMac comes in better colors.

Hmm. It's curious. I forgot we were doing a podcast. I'm just sitting here looking at it.

I know. Just sitting there reading. Well, no, it's just like, this is nobody listening to this or

this is not a product for us. You know, it might be a product for your daughter.

The eight gig RAM is pretty perfect. I know. That's the, I know, that's the, I know. Like,

because she's going to want to, I want, I, yeah, I wonder if that's the actual limit for that chip, you know,

I feel like for the A19, I definitely like this stuff. I don't really mind this stuff, but

they don't talk about RAM on the phone, but people figure that stuff out. And I feel like

they might have gone up to 12 or something, but I know. Let's see. I pet air gap. Do you know that one?

What does it got for what? It's 16 gigs based now.

For RAM? Yeah. Yeah, because you can get 2432.

Yeah, I don't mind. I mean, uh, well, you do mind, but I, uh, okay,

they started eight. I get it, but it's a shame there isn't a 16.

Like, I feel like you go to 512 for 700 bucks. It should be. No.

I don't know. I don't know. Whatever. That's what they're going to do. So, yeah, we still live in an eight gig

world. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, one of the weirdisms of anything like this is these companies

all have whatever AI features. And on the low end devices, they tend to not have all the features,

right? I don't know how Apple handles that, but I know in the pixel, like, if you go to an A-series,

you drop a couple things. And I think it comes down mostly to RAM, honestly, but whatever.

Um, you know, I wonder if there's going to be a weird

verification here, you know, going forward where a MacBook Air or a MacBook Pro is almost like a

Copilot Plus PC because it has more of something and thus can do these other things.

Yeah. Well, I think Tim Cook just cringed. You said MacBook and Copilot Plus PC all in one.

I know. Well, they weren't got a touch-based laptop was some kind of a crime against humanity.

In fact, when Microsoft was doing it, but now we're going to do it. And I don't know.

Anyhow, so I figured out how to complicate my my setup on this side, even further, which I'm tempted to do.

Yeah. So I have the Mac mini. I have an app called parsec that allows you to remote into it or whatever.

It's fine. Most of the time. But it's got enough latency that it's just enough to be annoying.

Mm-hmm. So I have a capture card.

Oh, boy. An HD capture card that I could plug this thing into.

A capture card that goes inside the computer room. No, no, no, it's actually for, it's a USB or

Thunderbolt peripheral. You plug your HDMI into it and then it would capture card. It's in theory.

So you go video up on the Mac. Yeah. Into that. Yeah. And then I could have that on my PC.

Because like the thing I don't want to be doing is flipping the stupid monitor inputs. Like that's not good.

Right. The question is is like, I don't know. I like the Mac being down here near like all the other stuff.

Yeah. But I think you just need to turn into a Mac user with eight gigs of RAM.

No, that's not going to work. No. Well, this one doesn't have eight gigs. This thing has 16 gigs of it.

I know every time I find it, every time I find it, I die a little on the inside.

No, I have the same experience when I use the Mac. Every time I get mad at Windows,

you know, for whatever reason, thinking like, all right, I could do this, you know.

And usually within, I don't know, five to seven minutes using the Mac, I'm like, oh yeah.

No, nope. And like the notion that this MacBook Neo is somehow going to be a gateway drug for

the Mac ecosystem is, you know, would be true if they didn't hand the cap at so much, you know.

But I, but in your case, anyway, I don't know what your setup looks like there, but I mean,

I would just, I would even have just like a little, like one of my little, um,

USB-C displays has a different port like this USB-C, but this also like, I think it's like a mini HDMI

or something. It's a, it's a, it's a small, so I have a cable that goes from that out to HDMI.

And you could use it like that, you know, like, even if you had like a little dedicated display,

you know, well, I think you can spend several hundred dollars on a Mac keyboard and mouse.

Yes, yes, our touchpad. And then a little display, Apple just released a new one,

it's not super expensive. I'm just kidding. Um, put a, you know, $3,500, my $500 Mac, whatever.

Yeah, exactly. Many. Yep. Yeah, turn it into like a little Frankenstein's monster. And, uh, you know,

just switch it back and forth like you're on the deck of the Starship Enterprise or something.

Yeah, I just don't know if it would be, if I can get, if we'd be more performant,

doing the, it's like, could try it on this piece. Yeah. I just feel like you're doing all these

complicated workarounds. And like, if you actually have to, I don't know what you're doing on it,

but I mean, building the clairvoyance Mac app. Well, maybe that, at that point, you should just

be using that directly, you know, yeah, but then I have to take it upstairs. And then I have to,

I know, Brad, life is not perfect, but you act like the Macminis portable. I would have to

reach over unplug a singular, oh, two cables, because it's hardwired.

Well, I just, I'm just saying on a scale from your problem to like,

these four pounds, like carrying that no way, four pounds, you have a, you have a daughter,

what's she doing, taking up space, eating your food? Come on, man.

You probably get some sort of goop on the nice clean Halloween excited for a little project.

You should be like, look, she gets on from school. You're like, I, I got some work for you.

She probably jumped in with two feet. I think she'd be interested.

You pay some things, put, put this together. And then while you're at it, build that,

build the Mac app. Just look at her. So my dad used to say to me, he's like, be useful.

Oh, my God, that's good. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm tempted to try this now to see if it, because I could actually try it on this computer

first. And then I could use, uh, multiplicity, which I know is more performant than

parsec because I did the math on what they're doing. See if that solves my problem.

That's what you need to do. There's install windows in there.

You know, it's like in parallels. Oh, God, you could use your app to switch back.

Of course, although technically I could because we do have a new one that's arm compliant

that actually does over the net now. Mm-hmm. Nothing I would need over the net,

but it wouldn't theory work. But then I don't know how you get

out of parallels to see.

Oh, you don't have to get out of parallels. You just have it running in the background and use

coherence mode or whatever they call it. So you don't even, it's still a Mac, you know,

it's a yeah, that is more layers of abstraction than I know. I guess it is a it's a heavy.

It's like I like on my computer, my Mac, I have windows 11 running in the background so I can run

no pad. You know, I mean, like it's not the most efficient use technology, but then again,

in this AI era, I feel like I've kind of landed right, you know, where I need to be.

No, some people go for efficient. We really aim for that convoluted metric.

How how abstracted can we make this process that could be solved easily by just pressing a

singular button on a monitor, but not like plugging in a exactly an actual display, but you know, or

you could just go through 17 troubleshooting steps every time something goes wrong because

it could be anything causing the problem, you know, I looked at my smart home setup and said that

is too good. How can I make my life more complicated and more areas? This is where we're. Yeah.