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Good morning everyone.
We have multiple breaking true crime cases this morning that you need to know about.
And we're starting with the biggest one.
Surveillance cameras caught the whole thing, a husband opening fire on his wife and another
man in a Florida library parking lot.
And right now, that husband is nowhere to be found.
But before we get there, today's show host Savannah Guthrie gives her first formal interview
since her mother, Nancy, was taken from her Tucson home, and she has a lot to say.
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Nearly eight weeks have passed since 84 year old Nancy Guthrie was reported missing from
her home in the Catalina foothills area of Tucson, Arizona on February 1st and still
no significant breakthroughs have been announced.
But this week her daughter today show host Savannah Guthrie sat down for her first formal
interview since her mother's disappearance Thursday's interview with NBC's today show
was the first of a two part interview with Savannah Guthrie conducted by her former co-host
Hoda Kotby its Savannah's first sit down interview since her mother's disappearance and it is emotional
Savannah said the family is in agony telling Kotby quote I wake up every night in the middle of the
night every night and in the darkness I imagine her terror and it is unthinkable end quote.
She also directly addressed the online speculation that circulated early in the investigation
speculation that a family member may have been involved calling it unbearable and cruel.
The Pima County Sheriff's Office has since confirmed the Guthrie family has been cleared
Savannah also waited on the theory that her mother may have been targeted because of her own
public profile saying if it is me I'm so sorry the investigation remains active led by the
Pima County Sheriff's Department and the FBI Savannah and her siblings are also renewing
their plea to the Tucson community asking anyone with photos texts or memories from the nights
of January 31st and February 1st to come forward no detail they say is too small.
Now to Varro Beach, Florida where police are actively searching for a man they say shot and killed
his wife and another man in broad daylight in a library parking lot before disappearing without a
trace. As of this recording the suspect 64-year-old Jesse Scott Ellis has not been found. Here's what
happened. Just after 7am on Tuesday morning March 24th Varro Beach Police responded to reports of
gunshots in the parking lot of the Indian River County main library on 21st Street.
When officers arrived they found two adults dead from multiple gunshot wounds in and around a
vehicle. The victims were identified as 49-year-old Stacy Ellis Mason and 56-year-old Danny Uli.
Both were employees of Indian River County. Uli was the assistant director of public works.
Mason was a traffic analyst technician. According to Varro Beach Police Chief David
Curry who detailed the case at a press conference on Wednesday surveillance video captured exactly
how the shooting unfolded. Uli arrived first driving a Ford Ranger pickup truck into the lot.
Mason arrived separately in a Volkswagen SUV. She walked around to the passenger side of Uli's truck
and got in. At that point police say Ellis who had parked his own truck on a nearby street
approached the driver's side of the Ford Ranger on foot and opened fire with what investigators
described as an AR-style long gun striking both victims inside the vehicle. Curry said Uli was shot
first. Ellis then moved around the truck and fired additional rounds as Mason either fell or was
pulled from the vehicle. The library Curry said was not a random meeting spot. He told reporters
quote the library was a location where they had met before. They met again there yesterday morning
and Ellis was aware of that. Police say Ellis and Mason had been married for 13 years and had
children together. In recent weeks the couple had reportedly been discussing separation or divorce
and were preparing to sell their home. Investigators also say they believe Mason and Uli had been
in a romantic relationship for at least several weeks to a month before the shooting. Uli was also
chief Curry described it plainly quote this was a targeted marital issue that went terribly
terribly wrong. He called it a crime of passion and police have said they do not believe Ellis
poses a threat to the general public though Curry acknowledged that any encounter with him
particularly for law enforcement could still be dangerous. After the shooting surveillance and
witness accounts indicate Ellis drove his gray Ford F-150 to South Beach Park left the vehicle
and walked into the Atlantic Ocean fully clothed. A woman on the beach called fire rescue after
seeing a tall man weighed into the water. Rescue crews reached him by boat around 8.30am
approximately 900 yards offshore. He declined help and gave a false name. At that point
responders did not know he was the suspect in the double homicide and he was not detained.
Police have not confirmed whether that man was definitively Ellis but he remains the prime suspect
and is considered to be at large. Search efforts have included boats, beach vehicles and ocean
searches along the barrier island. Law enforcement recovered multiple firearms from Ellis's home
when search warrants were executed along with digital evidence including cell phones which are
undergoing forensic analysis. Search warrants were also executed on the vehicles belonging to Ellis,
Mason and Uli. Curry said there is a significant amount of evidence still being processed.
Ellis is described as a local electrician. Police have released his name and photo.
If you have any information on his whereabouts contact the Varro Beach Police Department.
As that search continues in Florida we turn now to Washington State where a woman's body pulled
from a river is telling a story her family says they tried to warn people about for weeks.
In Skagit County, Washington a 42 year old man has been charged with second degree murder
in the death of his girlfriend a 37 year old woman whose body was pulled from the Skagit river
earlier this month weeks after she vanished in January and the details that have emerged about
the alleged abuse she endured before she disappeared are deeply disturbing.
Christa Joy Hunt 37 was last seen around January 25 after she and Juan Manuel Delgado,
Jr. were in a truck together near the Lone Star restaurant in Concrete, Washington,
a small rural town in the Cascades. The truck reportedly ran out of gas. Hunt got out and walked
away. She was never seen alive again. She was reported missing on February 1,
a search followed and on March 12 deputies conducting a boat search of the Skagit river found
human remains near Milepost 90 east of Concrete. Those remains were confirmed to be Christa Hunt's.
The Skagit County Sheriff's Office submitted charging paperwork on March 19 and Delgado has since
been charged with second degree murder. He's being held on one million dollars bail. In the weeks
before Hunt disappeared her mother Pamela Hunt spoke to Seattle based King TV and described what
her daughter had told her about the violence she was allegedly subjected to. Pamela said Christa
had a broken leg and that Delgado had allegedly boot stomped her leg and her chest. She also said
her daughter told her that at one point Delgado set a timer and told her he was going to hit her
every 15 minutes. Pamela Hunt took her daughter to the hospital before she disappeared.
She wrote in a GoFundMe post that Christa arrived, covered in bruises, both new and old,
had been strangled, had two black eyes and a broken leg and that doctors warned she might not
survive another strangulation. Pamela has also pushed back on Delgado being referred to as
Hunt's boyfriend, writing on social media, quote, he was a moment in her life. He subjected her
to relentless cruelty and nothing else. End quote. The physical evidence gathered after Hunt's
death appears to corroborate the severity of the violence she experienced. Investigators reportedly
found clumps of hair and blood inside Delgado's truck. The coroner found she'd suffered a broken
neck, broken jaw and broken ribs. Investigators have not formally determined the cause of death,
but those findings paint a grim picture. Delgado's account of events has shifted. He initially
told investigators he had no idea where Hunt was. He reportedly told a friend she'd been hit by a car.
He was already in custody on unrelated charges when the murder charge was filed against him.
Two days after Hunt was reported missing, Delgado reportedly shot himself at a bar in concrete.
He survived. For those who knew Christa Hunt, this case has been devastating on multiple levels.
Her mother's public statements make clear that she had been trying to get her daughter away from
this relationship for some time, and that Christa had been reaching out for help in the final weeks
of her life. The case now moves toward prosecution. Delgado is charged with second degree murder
and remains in custody in Skagit County.
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Based on the February 2025 Nilsen report, we're taking you overseas now to North Wales,
where an 18-year-old was sentenced to life in prison on Wednesday after pleading guilty
to murdering his 45-year-old mother, Angela Shellis, a case that a judge described as
extremely unusual and one of the most premeditated killings the court had seen.
Tristan Roberts didn't act on impulse.
In the weeks leading up to the murder on October 24, 2025,
he'd been posting misogynistic threats on Discord,
a messaging platform popular with gamers,
under usernames like Tonight's the Night,
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He'd written online that his mother was, quote,
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He'd also consulted an AI chatbot deep-seek
for advice on what weapon to use for a killing,
eventually tricking the system into responding by claiming he was writing a book about serial killers.
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He purchased one.
He recorded everything on a voice recorder.
On the night of October 23, Roberts began attacking his mother
inside their home on Coniston Drive in Prestatin,
hitting her with a hammer and strangling her.
According to prosecutors,
a recording captured cellist, herself a teaching assistant,
begging her son to let her go and call for help for over two hours.
Roberts then persuaded her to leave the house under the pretense of getting her medical
assistance, making her wear a balaclava as they walked together in the early hours of the
morning. Surveillance footage captured them leaving at 3.19am. Only Roberts came back.
They walked to a nearby nature reserve where Roberts took a lump hammer from his backpack
and delivered at least four heavy blows to her head. Her body was found by walkers later that
morning. After returning home, Roberts logged onto discord and posted that he'd, quote,
just had the craziest day, end quote. He then sent messages pretending to be his mother
to his brother Ethan, who'd been trying to reach her. When Ethan alerted their grandparents,
Roberts barricaded himself inside the house until police arrived, sentencing him to life with a
minimum term of 22 years and six months at Mold Crown Court. Judge Reese Rollins said Roberts
appeared to have reveled in the control he exerted over his mother. In a victim-impact statement,
Ethan Roberts said, quote, all my mom ever did was love Tristan, end quote. Angela Shellis's sister
Sarah Gunther told the court she had fought tirelessly to get Tristan help and that Angela's love for
her children was unbreakable. And from Wales, we head back stateside to Michigan where the man
convicted of murdering 13-year-old Naziah Harris was found dead in prison Thursday.
We covered his sentencing hearing in a recent episode and this morning there's been a major
development. 43-year-old Jarvis Butts, the man convicted of murdering 13-year-old Naziah Harris,
has been found dead in prison. Jarvis Butts, 43, was discovered dead Thursday morning, March 26th,
at the Charles E. Geller Reception and Guidance Center in Jackson, Michigan, the facility where
he'd been processed following his sentencing. The Michigan Department of Corrections confirmed his
death and said correction staff attempted life-saving measures that were unsuccessful.
The Michigan State Police have been called to investigate and the death is currently being
reported as a suicide. Butts was sentenced just two weeks ago on March 12th to 35 to 60 years in
prison after pleading guilty to second-degree murder in Naziah's death, along with five concurrent
terms of 10 to 15 years for the sexual assault of five other children ranging in age from four to
13. His earliest possible release date had been set for September 26th, 2059. Naziah Harris was
13 years old when she was last seen getting off a school bus in Detroit on January 9th, 2024.
Her body has never been recovered. As part of his plea agreement, Butts was required to
provide information about the location of her body. Wayne County prosecutor Kim Worthy said
after sentencing, quote, the disclosure of the location of her body was crucial, end quote.
A source told local outlets that Butts admitted to disposing of Naziah's body in the Rouge River
near seven mile and Berg in Detroit. Naziah's family has endured extraordinary loss throughout
this case. Her father, Mervyn Jennings, became ill and died while searching for his daughter.
This morning, a family friend noted that Butts' death means there are questions about the case
that may now never be answered.
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another show from Crime House that I know you'll love. America's most infamous crimes,
hosted by Katie Ring. Each week, Katie takes on a notorious crime, whether unfolding now or
etched into American history, revealing not just what happened, but how it forever changed our
society. Serial killers who terrorized cities, unsolved mysteries that keep detectives up at night,
and investigations that changed the way we think about justice. Each case unfolds across
multiple episodes, released every Tuesday through Thursday, from the first sign that something
was wrong to the moment the truth came out or didn't. These are the stories behind the headlines.
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Before you go, let me tell you what else is happening at Crime House today.
On conspiracy theories, cults, and crimes, we examine the disappearance of Hale Boggs and Nick
Begich, two US congressmen who boarded a small plane in Alaska in 1972 and never arrived at their
destination. The flight path was known, the departure was confirmed, the search effort that followed
covered vast stretches of remote terrain and airspace, and yet no trace of the aircraft was
ever found. There's something uniquely unsettling about disappearances like this, not vanishing from
a single place, but from a journey with a defined beginning and a defined end. A route that should
be traceable, a path that should leave evidence, and instead there is a break, a point where the story
simply stops. These are cases where investigators know where someone started. They know where they
were going, but everything in between becomes a space filled with uncertainty. Here are five
disappearances that happened between two known points. Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370. When
Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 departed Kuala Lumpur in March 2014, it followed one of the most
routine flight paths in commercial aviation. The aircraft was expected to travel north toward
Beijing, passing through controlled airspace with constant communication and radar coverage.
For the first portion of the flight, nothing appeared out of the ordinary. Then, the aircraft
stopped responding. What followed was not an immediate disappearance, but something far more
disorienting. Military radar later indicated that the plane had changed direction,
crossing back over land before heading out over open ocean. Satellite data suggested a continued
flying for hours after contact was lost, following a path that could only be partially reconstructed
through automated signals. This transformed the case from a single point of failure into a moving
mystery. The plane did not simply vanish. It continued along an unknown route, leaving behind
fragments of data but no clear explanation. Search efforts expanded across the Indian Ocean,
becoming one of the largest and most complex in history. Models were built, recalibrated,
and challenged as new data emerged. And yet, the central question remains unanswered. Somewhere
between its departure and its intended destination, the flight diverged from everything expected of it.
The journey didn't end in a known place. It dissolved into a trajectory that still cannot
be fully explained. Amelia Earhart
Amelia Earhart's final flight in 1937 was not an impulsive journey, but a carefully planned
leg of a global circumnavigation attempt. By the time she approached the Pacific, most of the route
had already been completed. The remaining challenge was navigation across vast,
featureless ocean, towards small, isolated islands. Her next destination,
Howland Island, was barely visible, even under ideal conditions. Earhart's radio transmissions
in the final hours reflect a growing sense of urgency. She reported difficulty locating the island,
despite being in what she believed to be the correct area. Communication with the Coast Guard
Cutter assigned to guide her became increasingly strained, with signals that were inconsistent and
difficult to interpret. At one point, she indicated that she was running low on fuel. Then the
transmissions stopped. What makes this case endure is not just the disappearance, but the
precision of the unknown. The route was defined. The destination was fixed. The margin for error,
however, was vast. A slight miscalculation in position or timing could place the aircraft
hundreds of miles from where it was expected to be. Search efforts at the time covered extensive
areas of ocean, but the limitations of technology and the scale of the environment meant that
even a targeted search could miss its mark. The result is a disappearance that exists within
a known corridor, a flight that came close enough to its destination to communicate, but never
close enough to arrive. Frederick Valentich. Frederick Valentich's disappearance in 1978
stands out, not just because of what happened, but because of how much of it was heard as it unfolded,
flying a small aircraft from Melbourne to King Island. Valentich was in regular communication with
air traffic control as he moved along a straightforward route. Midway through the flight, he began
reporting the presence of another aircraft. At first, the description was uncertain, lights above
him, movement that didn't match standard flight patterns. As the conversation continued, his
observations became more specific, but no corresponding aircraft was detected on radar.
Controllers were unable to confirm what he was seeing, leaving Valentich to interpret the
situation on his own. His tone shifted, the language moved from descriptive to concerned.
In his final transmission, he described the object as hovering above him, then a sudden sound,
metallic scraping cut through the audio. Silence followed. No wreckage was ever recovered,
despite search efforts in the area where contact was lost. The absence of physical evidence left
the case suspended between explanation and speculation. What is known is contained entirely
within the communication, a real-time account of a flight that began normally and then diverged into
something unverified and unresolved. The journey had a clear start and a clear destination,
but the interruption captured in fragments of audio marks the point where the known path ends.
Michael Rockefeller. Michael Rockefeller's disappearance in 1961 did not occur in the air,
but it followed the same structural pattern, movement between two known points,
interrupted by an unknown outcome. After his boat capsized off the coast of New Guinea,
Rockefeller and a companion clung to the wreckage as they assessed their situation. Eventually,
Rockefeller made a decision. Believing that land was within reach, he chose to swim for
sure. The direction was clear, the distance, while significant, was not considered impossible.
His companion remained behind, later rescued, while Rockefeller entered the water and began moving
toward what should have been a reachable destination. He was seen leaving, the intended end point was
known, but he was never seen again. Search efforts began quickly, involving both local and
international resources. Coastlines were examined, villages were contacted, the surrounding
environment, dense, remote, and largely unfamiliar to outsiders, complicated every aspect of the
investigation. Over time, theories emerged. Some suggested he drowned before reaching land,
others proposed that he made it to shore but encountered hostile conditions or groups. None have
been definitively proven. What remains is the structure of the disappearance itself,
a deliberate movement toward a known destination that, for reasons that cannot be fully confirmed,
was never completed. Glenn Miller. In December 1944, band leader Glenn Miller
boarded a small military aircraft in England, bound for Paris. The war in Europe was still ongoing,
and flights across the English Channel were subject to both environmental and operational risks.
Weather conditions were poor, and the aircraft he boarded was not equipped for advanced navigation
in those conditions. The departure was recorded, the destination was expected, but Miller never
arrived. In the years that followed, several explanations were proposed. One widely discussed
theory suggests that the aircraft may have encountered a formation of allied bombers returning
from a mission, jettisoning unused bombs over the channel. Another possibility is that the planes
succumbed to icing conditions or mechanical failure. What makes the case persist is the absence
of confirmation. No wreckage was definitively identified, no single explanation accounts for all
variables. The flight existed within a defined route, but that route passed through an environment
shaped by both natural and wartime factors, conditions that introduced layers of uncertainty
beyond a typical journey. Somewhere between departure and arrival, the aircraft was lost,
and like the other cases on this list, the exact point where that loss occurred remains unknown.
What connects these disappearances is not just the absence of evidence, but the presence of a
defined path that cannot be completed. Investigators know where the journey began, they know where it
was supposed to end, but the space in between is often vast, complex, and difficult to fully reconstruct.
Whether it's open ocean, remote terrain, or contested airspace, these environments create
conditions where even significant events can leave limited trace. In many cases, fragments of
information exist. Radar data, radio transmissions, witness accounts, but those fragments stop
short of the moment that matters most. The result is a type of mystery that doesn't begin with a
lack of information. It begins with a path that simply disappears. Hale Boggs and Nick Begich
boarded a plane with a known route across Alaska, a journey that should have been routine,
documented, and traceable. Instead, it became one of the most enduring aviation mysteries in
American history. For the full story behind their disappearance and the theories that followed,
listen to today's episode of conspiracy theories, cults, and crimes. Because sometimes the most
unsettling question isn't where someone went. It's what happened along the way.
You've been listening to Crime House 24-7, bringing you breaking crime news. I'm Vanessa Richardson,
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