
About this episode
This is Part Two of our series on leadership and biblical authority, where we turn our attention to how we follow.
In Part One, we explored biblical authority — leadership that is stewarded, not owned, and authority that builds people rather than controlling them.
But leadership is only half of the picture. Scripture also speaks about how believers respond to leadership, and what healthy, godly submission looks like.
Biblical submission was never meant to silence people or create fear. Instead, it creates order, trust, and shared responsibility within the body of Christ.
Healthy followership isn’t blind obedience or passive agreement. It’s a posture of humility that recognises God’s design for leadership while remaining anchored in truth.
In this episode, Morne van der Walt, Dylan Jones, and Mike D’Offay — elders in the life of JoshGen — explore what it means to follow well, when to submit, and how submission can exist without fear.
In Part One, we explored biblical authority — leadership that is stewarded, not owned, and authority that builds people rather than controlling them.
But leadership is only half of the picture. Scripture also speaks about how believers respond to leadership, and what healthy, godly submission looks like.
Biblical submission was never meant to silence people or create fear. Instead, it creates order, trust, and shared responsibility within the body of Christ.
Healthy followership isn’t blind obedience or passive agreement. It’s a posture of humility that recognises God’s design for leadership while remaining anchored in truth.
In this episode, Morne van der Walt, Dylan Jones, and Mike D’Offay — elders in the life of JoshGen — explore what it means to follow well, when to submit, and how submission can exist without fear.
Get every episode summarized
Each time Dying to Live Podcast publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
Hosts & guests
No transcript yet
This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.
More episodes
More from Dying to Live Podcast

Leaders Change But the Church Continues
Dying to Live Podcast
Sep 7, 202642:32completed

Facing ours Fears and Anxiety
Dying to Live Podcast
Aug 31, 202649:15pending

Guarding & Growing in Joy
Dying to Live Podcast
Aug 24, 202646:45pending

Discipline, Repentance & Restoration
Dying to Live Podcast
Aug 17, 202658:18pending