FREE AGENCY SPECIAL: Will the Denver Broncos make a BIG SPLASH to open their offseason?

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Our special guest, Dre, who are very happy to have insted. It's not even last. You're going to get

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by buddy. Yeah, but it's not special without a special guest like Dre. That is true. Yes.

Who's here for pigsby and a decade of other fun things have happened.

I want to play a game with you guys. Oh, right. That's right. Okay.

Of course, the legal tampering period opened one minute ago. Right. Yeah. That's pretty cool.

I want you guys to predict the Zach Stevens tweet. What did Zach tweet the second that it opened?

Well, he did scheduled this tweet months. Right. He did probably tweet

that the free agency is open. I don't think he messes around with the tampering period part.

Oh, you don't think no. I think free agency is open.

The Broncos. The Broncos could find a new star. The Broncos may have you throw

Sean Payton in there. Sean Payton and the Broncos are trying to find a new star. Will the Broncos

find a new star? It gets more engaging if it's a question. Is that your final answer? Yep.

Free agency is open. Will the Broncos find a new star? Sean Payton and the Broncos.

Okay. What's up, guys? Outside boys inside does not get tweeted out. And then he goes legal

tampering period just started. Who do you want to see the Broncos sign today? Oh, that's a good one.

Both of you are wrong. Happy legal tampering period exclamation point. Let's go. Broncos can now

sign outside free agency. You know what I give you guys extra points if you said that he also

posted a picture of George Payton. Oh, yeah. All right. I was George looking in the thick.

Really swaggy. Suit it up. Shades on. Yep. Just looking like a boss. Looking like he's ready to

give Adam Trappman a three year deal. Yeah. Yeah. People are upset. Let's why we were doing this.

I didn't want to cheat and look at the tweets. So I'm not sure if we've gotten all the tweets yet.

Oh, Alex Pierce going to Indianapolis, a four year 114 million dollar deal. Yeah,

stay. Should be staying. Should be staying. Four year. How many million? 114. So that'd be 25 plus

goodness. I mean, it's a decent. I mean, that's that's so much money. It is so much money,

but it's just money. That's what receivers get paid now. I know. But if you look up the other

receivers with that much money, it's probably guys who are just as good. I guess I'm looking at it

through the lens of like all these Broncos fans who wanted us. If we were to give him that deal,

people would have then been melting down. Oh, that's that's inevitable. I think we're going to have

a lot of meltdown talk today. Yeah. As we as we start to see these deals come in though, we can

hit some of them. Oh, so like so he's at 28 and a half million. I youke was 30 Gs. DJ Morris 27

and a half. You have a couple deals like T Higgins 28.7, but that was signed last year.

And honestly, he's probably more productive than T Higgins.

Pierce. Yeah. It's just that T Higgins has the big name. And so you're like, oh,

and it's been like a ramp up versus T Higgins kind of being at that same level for a while.

Yeah. He's had a breakout season. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Higgins. This breakout season was

years ago. Right. Those are my Alec Pierce thoughts. Does anybody have any Alec's Pierce things?

I was never big on Alec Pierce. He didn't fit into my very tight window of things I will accept.

The Broncos try to make a move at the receiver position, which I want them to do just not for mid.

And that's what I think Alec Pierce is. So yeah. That's why I would I actually probably would

unmelting that if we gave Alec Pierce 114 million. That'd be a reasonable meltdown.

So they're going to be a lot of deals coming in. Obviously, we're going to hit them as they come up.

Broncos will be making deals too. We've got Benny's going to be here in a few minutes. We're going

to kind of rotate in and out. We're going to hear from Zach on the expanding mobile call in line.

At some point, especially if the Broncos make a deal. And that's kind of the layout for what we're

doing for the next couple hours. But I do think that while we wait for some of these early deals to

come in from the teams that don't want to be accused of talking to the free agents before the

legal tampering period, we should talk about this weekend. Yeah. Because there was a lot going on

and Broncos fans, I don't even want to say that. People on Twitter were upset. And that is such a small

group that we can't let them excuse. So I'm curious. Broncos go out there, bring back Nate Adkins,

bring back Sam Ellinger, bring back Adam Trautman, bring back Justin Sternod. How do how do we feel about

what they talked through Paltrow? I assume we did already talk to you. We did. I don't think so.

That was Friday after the show. Oh, maybe not. I think it was Thursday after the show. We did talk

Friday. Um, start with Justin Sternod, which I thought was awesome. That's the signings. Yeah,

exactly. Start with the good news. Um, we, I think I said three for 15. It ended up being three for

18. Good for good for Justin. Uh, certainly worth that and more. Yeah. I think maybe one of the best

value signings we're going to see across the league, big during this entire time, um,

played like a high level starter when he was out there. He's not getting paid like a high level

starter. Right. So happy for him to get the, uh, longer term deal. Yeah. Then he's ever gotten in

his career. Happy for the Broncos for getting what I think is a great deal for a super good player.

Yeah. Yeah. Him and Paltrow are two resigns. I really liked some really good insurance

at positions where it's good to have that insurance and pretty nice little deals as well.

Nate Atkins, I think also falls under that just a one year deal for Nate, right?

Um, and then Sam Ellinger is that what's that tell you about steady? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Yep.

There's only that bonix like Sam Ellinger. Yeah. That's great. He's gonna be your third quarterback

regardless. It happened late enough last night to where I was trying to go to bed and adjust

to the time difference, which hasn't happened. So I wasn't able to put out the, we're back Texas

right, which makes me sad. I love that Sam Ellinger. Right. That is a good one. Yeah. I can't

remember who, oh, it was Jody Baron, who said his favorite player growing up was Sam Ellinger. Wow.

Because he's from Texas, which is kind of a crazy choice because, right, because the timeline is

just interesting. But I mean, if you're like 16 or whatever, yeah. And you mostly, you primarily

watch college football. Right. I mean, from Texas, like you would have other idols if you were

more of an NFL watch, totally. Or even if you were just like a general college football fan.

I think the most controversial, yeah, of these signings is Adam Trautman. Trautman, who got,

what was the, what are the deal? 17 million over three years. Yeah. So here's what I'll say.

I don't disagree with anyone who thinks that that's pretty rich.

Yeah. The numbers don't necessarily support the idea that he is a very good blocking tight end.

Or an all around tight end. But it's not like we're breaking the bank here. Yeah. And if Sean

Peyton likes them and trusts them and wants them in his offense, I think there's something to

that. I think there's some value in that. And you know, anyone who has worked in like the

management level of a company who tell you like, sometimes it's better to just keep an employee

than to have to train a whole new one. Yep. And I think that is the approach that the Broncos took

at the tight end position right here. Yeah. And I love the Adam Trautman deal. But we're going to

put that on pause for a second because we've got Super Bowl 50 champion Benny Fowler.

What's good? Free agency. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Still waiting. We can hit this one real quick. So

Dremont Jones, former Bronco, going to the Patriots, three years, $39 million. That's a, it's

interesting. Still are raking in the cash. It's like the exact same deal that he got a few years ago

when he left the Broncos and the Broncos brought in the account instead. Yeah, he's intensity.

Tennessee and the Ravens. That's our second big deal of the day behind Alec Pierce staying

with the Colts for 29 million a year. It's a lot of money. That's a lot of man. Yep.

These guys, this is chicken day. Guys getting that chicken as Marchion Lynch would say.

Here's another one too. Again, maybe not the biggest, but Eric Stokes returning to the Raiders,

three year deal worth $30 million. Former first round corner out of Georgia, of course.

I'm curious about the Raiders too, because they just have so much money to spend and they have

the draft picks that's, if I were going to play Madden and you took the logo wakes, I hate the

Raiders, that would be the team you choose to rebuild. Because with all the picks, with all the

like young weapons they have, the both the young weapons they have, I guess. Yeah.

Here's to see where they spend. It's comforting knowing they never get it right.

It is. I think if, but I think if Mark Davis is stepping out or stepping back,

there's a chance that they could do better than it's possible. Max getting rid of Max

Crosby or trading Max Crosby, getting the two first round picks, I think is really interesting.

Got the number one, number one overall picking where they have 116 million to spend. Yeah.

I mean, they could be like New England last year. Totally spend big and get it right,

catch people off guard a little bit. It's going to be interesting to see Max Crosby being

out of the division is really interesting. Yeah. I mean, the Raiders aren't good anyway,

so it's not like a, it's good to have him out of the division, but I mean, he wasn't.

It was more of an annoyance than like an actual concern. Well, you just say, yeah, when you go

into Raiders week, you got to really focus on him, but you know, you won't lose the game just

because of him. Right. If you're if you're in the race, it's like Broncos and Chiefs and Chargers

to go win the AFC West. You know, the Raiders are going to steal a game or two from that group.

Yep. And it's just kind of annoying to know that that's the case with with Max Crosby

on their lot less scary for sure. Yeah, I wish you would have gone out of the conference.

Because now the Ravens look very scary. Well, yeah, and that's the thing is that's like,

I almost rather him be on the Raiders who are never going to do anything and you're probably

going to beat every time anyway. Right. Then have him on the Ravens who you just might match up

within the playoffs. Totally. I mean, to me, the Ravens have to be the favorite to come out of the

AFC at this point. Like, when you just have that much talent, they missed the playoffs.

They did miss the playoffs, but again, like, it's a new year coaching staff. Who's the LC?

They're not going to be the favorite. Uh, who's who's the coach they brought in?

Um, Declan Doyle, of course, of course, is the offensive coordinator, which is interesting,

but just when you have Declan was like putting together PowerPoints when I was in New Orleans

in 2020. Oh, I didn't know he was there. It's interesting. Yeah.

And his coach under Dan Campbell died in. Yeah. Dan Campbell's assistant head coach,

Titan's coach in Declan Doyle was like, Titan's assistant coach. Yeah. Crazy. Now he's the OC

of Baltimore. It is crazy. And to me, I mean, that team is just stacked now. Um, are they,

they weren't good last year on defense, right? They were not. And that was a concern because you

lose Mike McDonald to the Seahawks and then the defense doesn't really work out. But when you have

now Max Crosby thrown in there with like the young corners who I kind of like with

Rohquan in the middle, um, with Kyle Hamilton, like, I just think they're not going to be bad.

The past rushes in that division are crazy. They are. Crosby Garrett. Right. TJ Watt. Right.

I mean, I, to me, those are the three best in the NFL. I guess Parsons would be the other one.

So at least three of the best four. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Back to Troutman, though, because I,

I like the contract. Like I just, if you told me coming into free agency that

what is Adam Troutman get paid? And you say, we're going to slot him in between Noah Gray and Luke

Farrell. I'd say sounds exactly right. And if anything, he's without looking at the deals,

I will say he's probably, I'd give more than the chiefs gave Noah Gray. And that just works out

in the modern NFL that comes out to 5.6 million in between the 5.25 and the six. And also like,

if you like the deal at four and a half, but you don't like it at five and a half, like what are we

doing here? Like that's, that's, well, I don't think people, like the people that are complaining

back about it didn't want him back at all. Okay. Yeah. And I guess I get it because that is a spot

where you could upgrade. Yeah. Like if you wanted to go get a Kate Otton, but also don't think it

prevents you from going and doing that. And they make the deal yesterday, probably with some intel

what Kate Otton's going to cost because there aren't a lot of options to just straight up upgrade

that position because like that was got her camp block anymore. So you could really, like he can't

block and also he's not fast. So like that's not a player you really want on your team, especially

if he's going to cost you seven million bucks or whatever you might cost. Like Kate Otton is one

of the guys who can do both and probably doesn't block as well as Adam Troutman, but it's dangerous

to say that on Twitter right now. So we'll leave it at that. I think the Troutman deal a lot.

What? I like the Troutman deal. Yeah, bring that point on. Number one vibes. Somebody who is

great in the locker room, you need the leadership. Number two, if you're thinking about upgrading that

position and you think about upgrading that position in the draft, no better person in order to

teach the offense. Yes. Somebody who is a willing blocker. Somebody who knows his role.

Somebody who has Botanix's back. And somebody who can just you when you think about championship

culture, when you think about teams, especially Sean Payton, lead teams and Adam Troutman has been

in New Orleans. I was with him in New Orleans and then also here. Clearly he knows this offense

really well. And to have another person on this field or on the field that can help relay the

message of being on a Sean Payton team. And what it's like, you need these culture people in

in the locker room. And it's not like he he broke the bank. He is good for this team. He's good

for the leadership. And if you're going to bring in a young tight end, if you draft a young tight

end, who's going to be the best person to teach this offense to? And I think Adam Troutman is that

perfect compliment right there. You have Evan Ingram. He was supposed to be your joker last year.

I think he will have an elevated role this year with Davis Webb now calling the plays. But when

you think about Adam Troutman coming or staying here, maybe they go for a young tight end in the

draft and he's the best person to teach the offense in that position, specifically in this offense

to that young player. Yeah. Let's see. We also talked about Justin Sternot unless you have more

Troutman takes. No, I have a different take. It is related to Justin Sternot. The fact that

the Broncos have not resigned to Alex Singleton now means that he is open to be able to talk

with their teams. And if I were to guess given the fact that we know they were trying to get it done,

there's a disagreement as it related to the value and what he could potentially get on the

open market. And so they just said, okay, well, let's see. Right.

You know, maybe the Broncos said, hey, give us the right to first refusal.

You know, if you want, if you want to stay around, we'd love to have you around.

If you get an offer from another team, we'd love to hear what it is and we'll let you know

if we're willing to pay that. I don't know if I'm comfortable having him like

negotiating, don't give me wrong. As a player, you wanted to negotiate and say, hey, this is what

I'm worth, but it's like, hey, bro, like, just relax. Just a little bit. Like, and I think

Sternot's younger, I want to upgrade that position. I want to make it more competitive.

You're not, Drake Green law is already coming back.

Sternot's there probably. Oh, you think he's got candidate still? I mean, you say of eight and a

half million bucks. Well, when they have already cut him, there are guarantees that hit the fifth

day of the league year, which would be five days after Wednesday. So I think so by Sunday,

you would have to make your decision. Yeah, I just feel like you would want to use that

cash space now. Right. To know that you have it now. Like, why not make that move now?

They can do the meant like they know in the back their head. Like, if we bring

little to back, we can pull it. Yeah, just let them go now. Yeah. I think if they got this

single team as insurance, depending on what happens with Alex, or even as like having

upper hand in the negotiation, totally. And so you just wait and see what happens there.

If you're able to get singleton back, then you probably let him go. That position room isn't

good enough to just run it back. No, to me, to me, it's, I disagree. Really? Yeah. Well, not really.

I clearly do. Yeah, I guess it's just why. Well, you have the upside. I mean,

the part that bothers me is the money for Drake Greenlaw, but I like having the upside there

of if he's healthy, what he can bring. Justin Sternad is a starter level level player that you have

essentially as a reserve whenever one's healthy. And Alex singleton to me is, you know,

the leader of the defense. And so I like having those guys all together. I wouldn't,

I wouldn't be against trying to add to it. I think in the draft, there's going to be some good

options. But I also wouldn't be against keeping it as is aside from the part that if you were to

sign singleton, then I think you're spending too much money on that position for what you're

getting. And so then I would probably cut dry. I mean, when I when you say leader of the defense,

I just have a hard time seeing that as as just with my lens or just my eyes from outside looking

in. I just have a hard time seeing that. I think he is, you know, loved by the organization.

He obviously ed block courage award this past weekend, which is incredible for him. But

you know, I think, you know, Talino Hufeng is now your unquestioned leader in terms of how he plays.

And I think that the next step, like, I don't see Alex addressing the team before big aim. I don't

see him as the person week that everybody will come to in the locker room in terms of that leadership.

I just don't see it, but I could be wrong. Yeah, I

I think first of all, Sternod, to me, he played the same position as Dre last year. And to me,

he was just as good if not better. Like, that's a guy who has all the tools to play the position.

Six foot four has the range, like, plugging him in there makes a lot of sense.

I'm just at the point where I'm, I like what I saw when he was out there a singleton.

I think that that's good enough. And I mean, defense was incredible. Go the AFC championship

game. They're making plays, whatever. I do think that where I would upgrade is through the draft

and say, like, we can save the money with green law, have our two guys, Sternod and singleton.

But then also go, if even use a first round pick on a linebacker,

a second one, whatever it may be. And that's where you need the upside. Because to me,

that's what's missing. And I get like, green law also has the upside. It's just a different kind of

upside because it's just a gamble on health. But I just think singleton did a lot for this defense.

And their, their Bosch coverage is like that colds game in particular is one that gets circled,

which again, second game back off to the torn ACL. Well, also there's cancer in his body. And

there were some, I mean, there are times where he got picked on. Right. Well, not just him,

just a linebacker core in general. Yeah. And I think specifically early in the season,

there was more of that. And by the time you get to the end, like people saying, like, well,

what about the commanders game? What about what Zach hurts it to him? And you go back and watch.

It's like, no, no, this is on him, except for there was one third down or just a little

quickal double move. And he gives up a six yard catcher, whatever it was. And I think,

I think that linebackers, one of those positions where fans always want more similar to offensive line,

where it's, it's rare that you say like, we are really good. Pause this. Kenneth Walker going to

the chiefs. So that dream is dead. Oh, finish lineback, but you can think of some takes on that one.

I just think singleton's good at what he does. He's 33 late to the NFL makes you think that,

33 is a problem for me. That's a year older. Is it, I guess 32 now, I think 33 by the end of the

year. But I do think that like people want tomorrow, Davis, people, you see linebackers age well,

it might be almost done with these a little bit older too, but you want to talk about somebody

coming in here who is when I think of a leadership, that, I mean, he just has

Demarado Davis's presence is unquestionably felt right when you walk in. But I also, you know,

I mean, singleton, you know, he's got the respect of everybody in the locker room. I just don't see

what's the next step. I don't think it's a double D either. Yeah, that's what I think it's,

you run it back because what you had last year, I thought was pretty good draft a guy playing

a different schedule next year though. Yep. And we're going to talk about this Kenneth Walker deal,

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Back into the DMVR Broncos podcast live from the Toyota Lounge, and Kenneth Walker is a chief.

What do you think? Disappointing in multiple ways, obviously, you would have like to see him

with the Broncos at the right price. We'll be interesting to see what that price comes in at.

And so, yeah, the one spin I have is that this takes the chiefs probably out of the running for

Jeremiah Love, which could get him to fall a little further, which maybe gets him to a spot where

the Broncos could trade out for him. That doesn't, that's a, we'll see. I think he's gone. That's

wishful thing. I mean, I think people are trading up for him for sure. He's going in top 10.

Because what's the chief? I don't know if he's going in the top 10. I think he's top 10.

We'll see. Yeah. I think this is interesting. Well, number one, I, you know, look,

I don't, you know, we hate the chiefs here, but I love Kenneth Walker because he went to Michigan

state. So shout out to him for getting a deal done. I think it's interesting. We were just

talking about the linebacker position and how important that position is.

When you have a dynamic runner like a Kenneth Walker, you've got to be able to make plays and

you've got to be able to hit. And now do you think about that position a little bit differently?

Or do you just bring back? Do you feel like Singleton and Trinod and

Greenlaw are, well, obviously, they're more than capable. But, you know, this is a dynamic that

Patrick Mahomes really hasn't had. Right. Who can move like this? Somebody's, all right,

we got a, we, we can give him the ball 25, 30 times. Yeah. Because who was the last,

it's like cream hunt has been their patch for like six of the last eight years. It feels like,

I don't know exactly early. He was early on in the career and then came back. And it's like,

he's, he's just fine. Like, he'll take what the defense gives him. And that's, yeah,

that's, that's a solid start. But there wasn't, who's the last guy with any juice that they

actually had. I don't, like, they tried to provide other words a layer, of course, but him,

it hasn't happened for him. There was a little bit of, yeah, Lavion at the end towards the end.

I forgot what the guy's name was. His last name was Williams. They won the Fusha

Part Super Bowl in Miami with him. Terry Kill. He was more for receiving back. Yeah, well,

speedy guy who came to the Broncos. Wait, who? Chiefs running back, like receiving back early on

of my homes early on. Williams, number 26, scored a touchdown in Super Bowl for their first one.

Damien Williams. There you go. That was a different one who came to the Broncos too.

Yeah, it's going to be interesting. Yeah. No, I'm curious. Jonathan Jones also tweeting,

Buccaneers are working to retain Kate Oton ahead of free agencies.

Ahead of free agencies. A weird phrase to put in there. Almost wonder if he'd meant to send this

a different time, but we'll see on that. But yeah, I think whoever was signed Kenneth Walker

was going to be getting a bad deal because there, there are a dozen running backs in the NFL

who I'd rather have than Kenneth Walker. Like that's just the dozen. I mean, you think through them,

like Sequan, Christian McCaffrey, Derek Henry, Josh Jacobs, Devon H. Ann, B. John,

Jamir Gitt. He's the NFL's all-time leader in yards for Kerry coming off like what,

a 1,300 yard season or something like that? It's led to nothing. Well, for the dolphins,

I blame, I think there are other reasons. I didn't know, I didn't know any of those stats.

And I love football. Yeah, but I think that's why I have the Broncos want to make a big trade.

I kind of like it. That's where I was like, HN. Yeah, there's just that list of guys. And to

get him, we'll see what the numbers are. I mean, there are three running backs in the NFL,

making $15 million a year. And it's, it's Sequan. It's Derek Henry and Christian McCaffrey.

And I would guess that Walker is making more than $15 million a year. And so you're just better than

any of those. Exactly. And Jonathan Taylor would be on that. Jonathan Taylor would be on the list.

Like I just, I think when you have a need and there are so few snaps that are open,

which is the case for the Broncos. You have a good team. You got good players coming back across

the board overpaying for running back. I could get behind. But the bottom line is it isn't overpay.

And for a team like the chiefs who have, they have holes across the roster. Like they missed the

playoffs last year because of all those holes. I think there's a chance. There's a very good chance

that they look back and say we paid too much for this guy. And I think that there's also a chance

that they say, huh, he also just isn't like you played the second best game of his career in a

Super Bowl, which you give credit to him for, but also you're paying a lot of money for that.

When there's also evidence that he is just kind of an average back.

There's a chance. We'll see. We'll see. Okay.

Yes, the Broncos certainly likes him with Walker, but we're always going to be wary of the price.

They also really like Travis ETN, who is still available.

Right. And part of the reason these go in the same, in this order, we're Kenneth Walkers

off the board first as you get the initial bidding war. But for ETN, there's no rush to make a deal

until you see like this number that's going to probably be massive where he gets to say, okay,

now I'm the best back on the market. You guys just paid the last guy 17 million bucks.

Now you're all desperate. Is that what he's getting into here? I'd guess. I'd guess around there.

We still don't have the numbers yet. I like Travis ETN. Yeah. I like him. I mean, he can.

He played well against the Broncos last year. He can catch the ball at the backfield too.

He's played in a lot of big games. So I like Travis ETN. Yeah. He's got me actually like anybody

that the Broncos really sign. I kind of like his, I believe in George Payton and I believe in

the scouting of Sean Payton. Like I don't think that I think the Broncos are just a very thoughtful

organization. I think with this leadership now, it's like, yeah, Kenneth Walker thing is,

I don't think it's a big deal. I think, yeah, the chiefs need, they have to.

They need somebody to help out in my homes. Like Bonix is also a part of our running game and

running dynamics. So I think it's just a little bit different. But yeah, I think the Broncos right

now, Broncos countries just relax, just relax. Yeah. Broncos are very thoughtful. They can take

their time. Yeah. I saw somebody in the chat say, what does ETN give you that Harvey doesn't?

Which is a good question because I think there are a lot of similarities there. But I also think,

in the NFL, you have two starting running backs. That's basically how it works. It's like,

you're splitting the carries between two guys. And so you need two guys if you're going to have

like a successful rushing attack that you're not hoping for more from. You think ETN's better in

between tackles? Yes. And I don't necessarily think it's because of the traits. I think it's just

because the game has slowed down for a little bit more. Like he just has the experience and that's

where he's gotten better. And for RJ, the game's just a little bit fast. And there are obviously

things where that doesn't really matter. You get him in space on a one-on-one. That's just instincts

and he can make those plays. He can get downfield as a receiver. But I do think that like,

Travis ETN is one of the potential outcomes for RJ Harvies that you could kind of see RJ

becoming that guy in a few years. I don't think it's like your best case scenario or anything

like that. But I do think that there are some things that you could do there. And I think that

you wind up running like a wide zone type of offense with those two. And it could be pretty scary

because you either one of them, you get the ball to him on like the cracked tosses, get them in

space and they'll make plays. It'd be an explosive backfield. Who wants me off the show? Why do you want

me off the show? Oh no. Oh no. We're keeping you. Yeah. Sorry to the commenter. Sorry to the

commenter. That's yeah. I wonder what you said. He's just being too measured. Right. Oh right,

because I forgot. Broncos fans were freaking out about the past few days. Yeah. Not we trust what

they do. Yeah. I mean, I've seen people already saying like George Payton sucks and all the stuff

in this. I feel like we take one step away from the season and everyone forgets what happened.

It's the same. I'm not saying that I'm pro just run everything back the exact way it was.

But this is certainly a team that you know, you mentioned it. When we were talking about Vaan and

you know, him being a great teammate and being the one who hosts and that that Super Bowl team

talking about how close they are and Henry, you were like, well, this team's those all the same

things. You know, they're all close. They spend all this time together. They're, you know,

this is a one of one type of thing that this team feels like they have. So I'm pro running

most of it back. Right. I would like to see upgrades in certain little areas. Kenneth Walker

was one of those options. There's other options to upgrade it running back. And you know,

while it's not my favorite move, you always have the option of rolling the dice on JK's health again.

Right. For a whole lot cheaper. That's not what I would want to do, but it could work. I don't

agree with some of what you're saying. I think the one part that you know, we did talk about

this year was how close these guys were. And I do agree with that. The 2015 team really close.

But those years only exist in those years. The camaraderie things change. Money gets different.

People grow older or, you know, you kind of take together the closeness or you take for granted

the closeness. So you don't do as many dinners. You don't do the 2015 got team got it right. But 2014,

my rookie year, it was not like that. The year after definitely not as close because personalities

are gone. Money's different. Payton's not there. We didn't know who was hosting the dinners on

Thursdays as an offense because Payton was usually putting that together. So the closeness of

this group to me does not carry over into the following year. Things are just they're different.

You take, you take for granted the relationships is just, it's just a natural human element to me.

I believe we're just like, oh, yeah. Like my four or five years at Michigan's, my five years

at Michigan State, we had one year where it went all together. And that was my senior year,

it's 13 and one. But like, yeah, we had splashes of here and there. But the camaraderie of that 13 team

wasn't like any of the other ones. So I just think it's hard to carry over. And

college, for the most part, you know, everybody who's coming back. And then there was no money involved.

So I think it's hard. You can't just rely on like, oh, yeah, this group is going to be close

next year. Yeah. I think you're right. Also two pieces of news before we hit a quick break.

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Yeah, I mean, that's what that's the only idea talking about it ever, ever since we knew that he

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you good off, but you wouldn't do anything else. Yeah, yeah, depending on the guaranteed money.

I mean, to me, it seems like what two year deal?

One basically, yeah, you can get out after two years. I think the Broncos could have done that.

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Back into the DMVR Broncos podcast from the Toyota Lounge. Man, Zach did say just recently that

JK remains very much in the mixed return to the Broncos, which we all know, but the fact that

you tweet it now makes you think that maybe there's some conversations going on. I'm curious,

it's I don't think it's a good deal to give 15 million a year to Kenneth Walker,

like I said over and over again, you're overpaying, but you got to do something with this money,

because you do have some money to spend. And so I don't know where I pivot to if you miss out

on Kenneth Walker and ETN.

Like you don't have Alex Singleton, like Devon Lloyd has thought that JFM might be the answer.

I mean, my answer. I don't know, man. This is a tough situation. I agree with you, though.

I mean, 15 million is a lot, depending on your need, though, like it's not a lot for Kenneth

City. They needed it. Right. The Broncos don't need to overpay that much for a running back.

But there's there's a fine line between like, oh, you overpaid. That's a bad move. And like,

oh, you overpaid. You're all in. Right. You know what I mean? And the chiefs are obviously trying

to extend their Super Bowl window. You know, they it's over. This is the new one. Yeah. Yeah,

it very well, very well, maybe. But they're, you know, they're doing what they feel like they have

to do to try and have their offense get back on track. Their offense was not good last year.

Right. And if the Broncos made that move, sure, would they be overpaying? Absolutely.

But you're also getting a player with Super Bowl experience, a guy who balled out in the playoffs.

Like, I got crazy vision. He's got he's a younger to me, JK Doppens, in terms of the vision and

finding the lanes. I mean, yes, his best game or second best game ever was the Super Bowl, but

the way his, his patience and his running style and ability, the Broncos don't have and have it had.

Yeah. Yeah. A couple, a couple deals. So Jalen Watson going from the chiefs to the Rams.

So the Rams just have the chiefs to start in corners. Yep. Which is interesting big money deal.

But then also Jalen Phillips of the Eagles, former like tools, he passed Russia of the dolphins,

Panthers signing him four years, 120 million dollars.

Just interesting for the Panthers because like, when you're in that position,

where you sneak into the playoffs and actually have like a couple of pieces, go and blow 30 million

bucks a year on an ad rusher, like that can make a difference. Then finally, one more, a receiver

deal, a deal that maybe the Broncos could have gotten in on, Colts sending Michael Pittman Jr.

to the Steelers, which is interesting. Also, very interesting because they're in DK is obviously

a Steeler. Pittman is better, better route runner, but doesn't have quite the physical tools.

They're really loading up on size. I don't even know. I wonder what you're coming back. You would think.

Speaking, I don't see them get rid of mech half. I don't see him doing that either.

Pittman is such a Steelers like receiver. He is. And it's not just because he has Pitt in his name.

Right. Speaking of quarterbacks, I'm curious what you guys think. So I think probably three big name

quarterbacks with Malik Willis, who will all throw into that tier after a couple big games, seems like

he's going to get some big money. And then you've got Tua, who the dolphins released this morning.

Kyler Murray, who got released a few days ago. How do you rank those three?

Like which, who do you want? Who do you not want? You said Tua. Tua Kyler. Malik Willis, who had,

I mean, let's pull the numbers up from the couple of games. So he was the guy in the bad quarter

back draft, the Kenny Pickett draft, who some people were saying could be a first round pick.

Maybe even number one overall pick winds up slipping to the third round. Didn't really see the

field for the Titans. But this year, got a couple of starts as Jordan loves back up and had

the best game, 18 to 21, 288 yards in a touchdown and a loss to Baltimore. He played really well

that game. He did. He was incredible in that game. Does he? He's number one. Tua. He is. He's

number one in Kyler and then Tua. I mean, it depends on what offense you have.

So let's put you two scenarios. Let's say one is, what, one is the Steelers? The Steelers,

a team who are trying to win right now and say Aaron Rogers doesn't play. The other scenario would

be a team that's like building for the future more. So you can kind of take a team with the

other one. Maybe neither all three of them can't play in Pittsburgh. None of them. None of them.

Why is that? McCarthy has a very just dropback style. There's no play action. It's more so. I

mean, I've only seen McCarthy really would Rogers and Dak and those to me are taller quarterbacks

can see of a line of scrimmage, great anticipation. Neither I wouldn't trust either, either one

or any of those three in a McCarthy. I mean, he's running slant stick like he's running simple

concepts and the quarterback has got to be able to read and understand things. So I'd like to see

Malik Willis somewhere else Kyler Murray. I mean, I don't believe in small quarterbacks either,

so I'm not a big fan of Malik's small too. Yeah, of all three. But if you're going to do play

action in a Matt LaFlore, Kevin O'Connell, Kyle Shanahan type of style offense, then Malik Willis is

number one. But Kyler Murray is, I mean, you saw what he could do. Yeah. I mean, he had moments.

And he'll be exciting. He can't win you anything. No. They're probably where you're at. But like,

the like love of the game narrative with him really worries me. I know. Home are claws in his

contract. Yeah. And then there are too many reports out there where he doesn't talk to anyone.

Can't be your quarterback. Right. Hey, yeah, I'm not going to talk to you. That's

seems like kind of an odd guy. He does seem like an odd guy. I heard a jingle, which meant

Zach called in. Let's let's hit a quick break. Our last break, we should say our last break of the

day. Oh, sorry, we do even have a third break. No, we don't. So it's a fake break. We already had our

last break of the day. So he can just bring Zach on right now. On the Xfinity mobile call in line.

Imagine that. How is what's going on? What's going on? Oh, sounds like boys still isn't back.

You party all weekend, bro. What's up? Oh, no. This first time I've talked to like 36 hours right now.

So I'm finding out what it hears like as well. It doesn't hear good. That's for sure.

No Kenneth Walker for the Broncos. Is that should people be as sad as it seems like they are?

They know. I mean, I understand why people are. And I mean, you guys had Kenneth Walker's

your number one. I thought Kenneth Walker and Travis ETN were both kind of splash players. And so

I think the Travis ETN would be just as exciting for me personally, even more exciting. And those

are the names to keep your eyes on right now, especially day one of free agency is Travis ETN.

The chiefs were in the we're in the running for Travis ETN and Kenneth Walker. Broncos were

certainly going to check in with both of those guys. And so now it goes down to to ETN. And then JK

Dobbins is the other guy that we need to keep our eyes on. He might not be a day one signing for

the Broncos. But if they do lose out on Kenneth Walker and Travis ETN, then I believe that it will be

JK and then someone else or JK and a draft pick as well. So kind of all eyes right now in Broncos

country are focused on Travis ETN and where he goes. But he also with Kenneth Walker going off the

board so early in the day, that makes his market even that much more valuable. What I will say about

Kenneth Walker, guys, is his $15 million per year price tag a little more affordable than I

thought, which is good for the Broncos in their pursuit of other free agent running backs because

they'll all likely come in underneath that. So the thought is now maybe ETN is 12 or 14 a year.

And then the Broncos have to ask them a question themselves a question. Do they want to go that route

or do they want to go with a cost saving route in terms of the JK Dobbins pair him with someone

else as well. I don't believe that they're going to be in on Tyler Algier, but we'll see he's

the name. There's obviously a lot of other date kind of tier two and tier three names out there

Rico Dowdell. And then so we'll see how that shapes up. But all eyes on that running back position

for the Broncos right now. Zach, where are we at with Alex Singleton? What's going on there?

Yeah, the Broncos have been talking with him. The talks really started up for the first time

yesterday afternoon. The two sides have been in base as been touching base for a couple of weeks

now. But we know that George Peyton and his staff like to get deals done Saturday or Sunday night

before free agency starts. We saw a couple of those happen yesterday. Those little Broncos talk

to his reps yesterday afternoon all the way through last evening. There had been a contract exchanged

and clearly the two sides not close enough to where Alex Singleton does hit the open market. It's

still in my understanding though that the Broncos do want him back. They're still going to be working

toward a deal with him. But once two sides are so far apart, sometimes you do have to hit the

open market to see which side is right. But the Broncos do remain in contact with Alex Singleton.

There's certainly a chance that he resigns with the Broncos. And I know that that's what they want

to happen. Zach, what is a surprising move? You got any bold predictions in terms of now that

free agency has started in terms of Broncos trying to make a move at the receiver position?

I was going to say Benny, you don't think Adam Trappman is that type of receiver that Broncos

are looking forward to. Zach, somebody told us they were going to snap on us on X yesterday.

I don't know if I've seen a crack. I don't remember the last time I saw a crash out like this

before free agency even started with the Broncos. In terms of receiver, Romeo Dodgs is a name that's

been thrown out there for the Broncos. I don't think they're going to make a big splash right there.

I mean, you did just see Michael Pittman Jr. get traded away to the Steelers. So maybe it would

be a trade like that. There are some reports out there. Digs, no, not now. He has that court date

separate first. I don't expect anything to happen until after that. So I think the position that

we're really going to be keeping our eyes on is that wide or the running back position right now.

Isaiah, likely off the board now to go into the Giants.

So you're 40 more dollars, likely definitely off the board. Okay. Yes. So what it feels like to me

plan A at this point is ETN. But the plan B part is where it gets difficult. I mean, it's JK,

of course. But then you wind up with all the money you were going to give to ETN. Is that just when

Romeo Dodgs comes into play or is there like a wider pool of candidates that the Broncos

could be after here? So I think I think it sticks pretty much to that. So like where the where

the Broncos are, we don't actually know exactly where the Broncos salary cap situation is right now

because of the contracts that they signed yesterday. They're not officially in. So we don't know

the cap numbers there yet. But it looks like the Broncos are going to be at about 20 million dollars

in cap space right now, even after restructuring Quinn Miners just with those other contracts that

they signed. And so let's say you do sign JK. Well, that's four off the board right there.

Then you're down to 16 and then you have to also sign your draft class and fill in the rest

of the roster. So it's not like the Broncos are swimming in cash right now. If they want to make

a splash with ETN, they can. But if they don't make a splash with ETN, it's not like they're just

going to allocate that exact same money to a receiver or somewhere somewhere else. Look guys,

I reported on it in my article last week and I tried to to warn people and I knew it wasn't going

to be fun. But this is kind of a run it back year for the Broncos. They were the number one seed in

the AFC. They had the best record in the NFL last year and they're a bonus injury away from

making the Super Bowl. And then who knows how the Super Bowl goes. I'm not exactly sure why people

were expecting like wholesale changes from the Broncos. I understand it's not the sexiest to

resign to Adam Troutman. I know it's not the sexiest to be doing the moves that they have been.

But you don't need to win free agency when you're the best team in the NFL when you have the best

record in the NFL. The Broncos, it does not mean that they're not going to make moves. I mean,

if the Broncos come away with this, signing Travis ETN and getting a top running back on the

market right now and signing a running back to one of the biggest contracts that a free agent has

ever got, that's going to just completely change the game right now. And that's the one splash.

The Broncos are not, you know, four, five, six starters away from competing. They're like,

they just need to get a little bit over the top and just get a little bit more help. And so that's

why these big contracts probably aren't going to come. Look, we talked about it as well last week

on the show. The Broncos, they had their free agency this year's free agency. They had it last

last August when they signed court in Sutton when they signed Zach Allen when they signed DJ Jones when

they signed Malcolm Roach, that was the Broncos splash in free agency. Now let's see if they can just

have one or two more splash pieces here. And now that I think of it, JK Dobbins on a one-year deal,

this year has about the same cap hit as Travis ETN would have in year one of a three-year deal.

And so because of that, the money doesn't change. The difference, obviously, if you get ETN instead of

JK Dobbins is that those next couple years, you wind up with $10 million free and then $15 million

for your whatever it is. Zach, I'm a, I am, you know, just all the reporting that you've done,

I am a little surprised by the Broncos not being a little bit more aggressive because I think in

these next two years, you can and you should want to go all in before it's time to bay, bonic,

$65 million a year. I'm just a little curious in terms of why they haven't. When I think about

maybe the Rams last offseason, they traded for a guy like Devonte Adams. I'm not saying that

the Broncos have to do that. But where is that splash? Where is that? You know, I love that they're

resigning their own guys. And you're taking care of the guys that are already in the building.

But you get to a AFC championship. You are a bonic's ankle injury away.

I would, I would think that you would make that type of move. I mean, you see,

you know, Broncos get blown out in 2013, Super Bowl. And then you trade, I mean,

you, or you're not trade, but you go sign, Demarcus Ware, you get a key, you get TJ.

And then, okay, you lose the next year, but then you win it all. I need to, I, I understand where

some Broncos fans are. I don't think you need to crash out, but I do need to see some aggressiveness.

I also think it also shows, you know, to bow like, hey, we know that you're the guy. Here's

some more weapons. Yeah, Benny, I do think some, some of those fans are getting a little bit.

But no, I do understand what you're saying. I'm just putting myself, I'm putting myself in

that locker room as a young player. And I completely understand what you're saying. What I will say

to remind you is we're 56 minutes in to when the Broncos can actually make signings.

And when they actually can make trades, they haven't been able to touch outside players

until 10 a.m. this morning. So I want to see what they do in Philly with how he rose me.

I want to see something like that or less need these incredible top jeans. Don't get me wrong.

I like what George Payton has done over his 10 years so far. But I mean, the Eagles just

always have me excited as a fan as a football fan. Eagles have done nothing in the first 56 minutes.

Maybe they extended one of their big, they just extended one of their big dogs. What,

yesterday, right? But those are, those are internal that I don't think those aren't like

game changing moves. That's just the same thing as running it back like what we've seen the Broncos

do. Broncos is what I'm saying to you. What I'm saying is I'm not saying that the Broncos aren't

going to make a move. I still think and I know that they're in on Travis ETN. And that would be

a big sort of move to help the team get over the top right top right there. But we're so early

into this and AJ Brown's still potentially available. I'm not sure if the Broncos are going to

make that move, but there are some moves out there that can. There you go. There you go. There's

still so many moves out there that can be made for the Broncos. And so it's about making the

picking the right times and typically, typically, not all the time, but typically the big winners

in free agency aren't the big winners come January and February. The teams that spend huge

three minutes into free agency typically aren't the ones to succeed. There are those odd balls,

though, like you mentioned, with the Broncos after 2013 in that 2014 offseason, 2015 offseason,

they won free agency and then they were able to win on the field. So there certainly are those

examples. But if the Broncos go out and get a Travis ETN to a big contract, the one that Kenneth

Walker's son is the biggest free agent contract that any one, any free agent running back has ever

signed. So if the Broncos go like a million or a couple million below that from Travis ETN,

it's going to be one of the biggest contracts that a free agent running back has ever had. If they

do that, then that's like that game changing move right there. And I think Broncos country will

take a deep breath. And what I'll say is we're 58 minutes into this right now. There's still a lot

of good players on the board right now. And the Broncos are so big. We won it now. We've got

Amazon. Amazon, you get things delivered right to your door. We won it now, Zach.

I think I'm right between you guys. Maybe a little closer to Benny, but I

I think that the there's no reason to panic right now. Yeah. I also agree that the Broncos can't

just say status quo, run it back. We'll be able to win all those one score games all over again.

So I'm with you in that I want them to make a move. I'm also with with Zach in the sense of like,

all right, let's just be patient here. Let's see what happens. Let's see where the chips fall

before we react. And we'll be able to, you know, a week from now, maybe two weeks from now,

be able to have a much clearer picture of what the Broncos plan actually was.

Yeah. And I'd throw in like, this was never going to be like your big splash off season.

You know, we've seen the numbers for a while and knew that this wasn't going to be one splash.

One splash would I think be enough to get to hold people over. Yeah, I don't want the Broncos to

spend a lot of money. I didn't expect them to have three to sign three players right now, but like,

I want something to have to have been done in the first. If we go two hours without a deal,

I mean, we got one of the most aggressive play callers in Sean Payton and, you know,

somebody who just has all this football knowledge and acumen that you got George who just understands

Regency and the draft. I just want a little action. I'm not saying that, you know, I didn't expect

them to spend a crazy amount of money though. So Benny, let me ask you this. Last year, did the Broncos

make some splashes in free agency? Yes. I thought Tellano who Funko was a huge splash. And I thought

that type of. I agree. I agree. I thought Dre Green. I thought green. I thought green

long and everyone in room. Those are exciting. I'm not saying you got to sign three players like

that, but hey, I want some, I want a little outside activity, not just all internal. Like,

yeah. Yeah. And I totally get that. But the Broncos made their first signing of free agency

at about 3 p.m. on this day last year. That's when they got WhoFunga. Then an hour and a half later

is when they landed Dre Green law right around the evening time. And then they got Evan Ingram on

Wednesday. So they can still get big splashes, even if it's not within the first hour. The first

day is typically when the big splashes come though. And then you might get some guys like an Evan

Ingram where they they test the market. They visit a couple of teams and then they sign on Wednesday.

There's also one other quirk with this year that makes it different and might make it. So

a couple of players hold out on signing right away right now. This is the first year that in this

legal tampering window that players can actually talk to the head coach and the front office themselves

in the past in these 48 hours before Wednesday. It's only been that agents can talk to the team.

The players can't actually talk to the team at least legally right now. Now you're able to,

Sean's able to pick up the phone and call Travis ETN and talk to him if he wants. And that might

make it so the process is a little bit longer for some players getting an actual feel of what it's

going to be like being in that building. And man, what I'll say is I want Sean Peyton on the

other end of that line when he's talking to a player trying to convince him to come here because

he is so convincing of what we've seen with Sean and what what we might see with some of these top

free agents. And especially some of the Broncos top free agents still like in Alexingleton,

probably not a JFM just because it does seem like he's going to move on. These guys might

agree with other teams. Sean picks up the phone calls him and convinces them to come back to the

Broncos. He talks to Richard Tato, the Broncos cap guy who does all of these negotiations and says,

come on, what are we doing? We can't let Alex leave. We can't let Travis ETN sign with someone

else. We got to get this guy. What are we doing here? We saw this happen with Justin Sternad two

years ago. He had agreed with the deal with the Carolina Panther. Sean picked up the phone and

said, what are we doing here? Let's just get a deal done. And then he switched to the Broncos

and boy has that paid off incredibly well with him signing that extension yesterday. Same thing with

Will Lutz, I believe two years ago. He signed with the Jack or he agreed with the Jacksonville Jaguar.

Sean picked up the phone and said, no, you're not leaving. We're going to get a deal done with you.

And so I think that's a huge resource that the Broncos have not just with their own guys,

but now since Sean can talk to these other guys, they have that advantage now.

So are you telling me maybe the Broncos swoop in on the Kenneth Walker deal?

Is that as I was you're trying to say? I wanted to. I wanted to. He was, you know, my number two,

my number three running back here, let the chiefs pay him all that money. And unfortunately,

I mean, he is a good player. So the chiefs get a good player. I just thought the hype was a little

bit too much there. And now I really get to live on that with him being in Kansas City.

Hey, Zach, do you know the involvement of Davis Webb at all in terms of the free agency process

in terms of now him being the the office of coordinator does he have a more active role in

terms of picking players or recruiting in free agency? Yeah, definitely the picking and helping

the guys put the board together like they did now. From my understanding, it's very, very top

level when it comes to actually recruiting these guys. Now, if they brought in an evident

room for a visit like they did last year, which is pretty darn rare in today's free agency,

Davis would certainly be involved in that process. But when it comes to actually pitching guys

and because you only get like one phone call with with each player, you actually get five phone calls

that you can have. I believe that that's more of a shun and a George conversation that they have

there and Rick Rotado is really involved in the contract side of all of this. All right.

Zach, I got one more question. Do we see the Broncos at all doing some more restructuring throughout

the week to add more cap space? If they if they feel like they need to, now the one with Quinn

opened up 11 million dollars and that's something where the Broncos did not have to ask Quinn about

it. It was a simple restructure. So they can do that, especially with the massive contracts that

they've signed recently with guys there is a possibility. I wouldn't think that they're looking

up looking to add tons of cat space right now. I know people don't like to hear it, but Broncos

aren't looking to make four splash moves right now where they have to have all of that cap space.

They really like where their team's at right now. Saying that, I do expect them to be very involved

in Travis ET and I know they really like him and guys of this signing comes down in a minute from

now. I think everyone's going to feel just a lot more at ease like, okay, they made that move.

They did it and I expected to probably be at that running back position. But we'll see what Travis

ETN is now the top dog on the market now, which is going to help his negotiating power.

All right, last one before I let you out quick, yes or no, we'll Travis ETN be a Bronco.

Yes, let's go. Let's go. Okay, we needed that.

We'll see you again in a little bit, Zach. Hopefully in just a couple of minutes when we get

some more details. There we go. We give a little move from the Broncos. That was X-Evens

over on the Xfinity mobile call in line. Imagine that. Imagine that. Imagine this.

Wow.

Oh, good. Joseph, when we were saying people might be overreacting.

We bring in Dre who just brings a big energy. We'll see what's the chat talking about right now.

I bring big energy. Smart energy gets with well-measured. Yeah, I'm not sure it takes.

Yes, he is signing with the Jets and it looks like the Jets also signed Joseph Osai. I don't know if

you guys saw Jalen Phillips got signed by the Panthers. Yeah, it's kind of fun.

30 million per year, 4 year, 120 million deal, 80 guaranteed. What numbers do you need for

that to be a good deal? First of all, you need to like be productive for at least the first three

of those years. At least. But what is productive? Do you need like 13 sacks of years?

Three double digit sacks of season. That's what you need. It's a big gamble. It might be a great deal

though. Also, Malik Willis going to the Dolphins. Three years, 67 and a half million.

So they got him for. That's not terrible. No, it's not bad at all.

22 and a half per year. Embarrassing to use a calculator for that. But I do,

it's not something that really matters for the Broncos probably. The Dolphins aren't a team

that you're scared of, especially when you realize they're competing with the bills and the

Patriots for those spots. But the Dolphins, I don't know if we'll ever see them really be good.

It's so hard to imagine. Yeah, like it's it's Miami. Right.

They just don't do it well. They just don't know. They have all the recruiting tools in the world.

I think they do have the recruiting tools. But then I don't feel like they have ever really

hired a coach where I think it's more of the coach and they haven't gotten the quarterback

position right, you know, really long time. Well, and they're usually just such a soft team.

Like they're the Miami guys. It's the guys who are like, okay, we gotta decide. You get the

same contract. You're gonna go to Pittsburgh or you're going to Miami. It's like, oh, I'm going

to Miami all day, which I understand our personal level, not necessarily the guy that you want

to win football games. And so I think you kind of need to balance that out with a coach who's

a bit of a hard ass, which is not what they had before. Yeah. So yeah, and I,

I think I think they could win with like a Sean Payton. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. I think you

need somebody to whip them in the shape though. When you look at like the Seahawks last year,

a team that's really good, kind of out of nowhere. Correct. Correct. Like you kind of,

they're, they're some of those pieces, I think with the dolphins, with Malik Willis being last

proven, but also what we think of Sam Darnold at the time. But it's just so tough to believe that

they will ever be the team that's like, yep, they nailed everything. And here they are just playing

good, vicious football late in the year. Well, and there's some familiarity because their

coach is a former Packers coach, right? Jeff Halfley over who was with the Packers last year.

Yep. Oh, so chances of making it work. Austin Hooper just got a one year deal to the Falcons

for 3.2 million. I am an Austin Hooper believer. Again, just one of those guys who, when you have

Evan Ingram, you don't really need to worry about it. Same, I'm a big John who Smith guy as well.

Who's also a free agent now, but you're already struggling to find the touches for Evan Ingram.

Are you really going to start getting crafty with John who Smith also probably just not the right

time? Do you, so you want to draft a tight end? Yeah, I think so. You'd draft a kid out of organ.

Well, I mean, he probably won't be there that long gone. Here's an interesting one real quick

Chris Thomas and sources say Broncos have reached out to express interest in free agent receiver

Kendrick Born. When you're when you're talking about fifth receiver options for the Broncos,

that's obviously a guy who could fit that mold. 551 yards last year started half the games,

played in all of them for San Francisco. Pretty consistent. 300, 400 yards a year had the

big year back in 2021 though with 800 yards, which is pretty easily the peak of his career.

Yeah, 30 years old now will be 31 when the season starts. Big Scott conference guy, which we like

he's watching in guy, which we don't like so much. But yeah, I check soft those boxes for us.

I will say if the first move the Broncos make is Kendrick Born, that will not be stopping the meltdown.

That's all he has more. Yep. Yep. And really, we'll have to all grind some Kendrick born run blocking

tape to know how we feel about that. That's a tough one to have immediate reactions with speaking

of blocking though, going back to a question that was made earlier of what does Travis ETN bring

that RJ Harvey doesn't. It's the improvements we saw last season under Liam Cohen as a

in impasse pro. That's where I've been pounding the table for multiplicity on offense.

It's the thing that bugs me about the troutman signing is I don't think he brings a lot of

multiplicity to the offense. The running backs, you know, during our watch alongs last year,

depending on what back was in the backfield, I could generally tell you what play was going to be

run. I think ETN gives you enough three down versatility as a runner pass catcher and impasse pro to

bring that multiplicity you need. Also outrushed Kenneth Walker last year in the regular season.

Outrushing touchdowned him and had more receiving yards. If you were receiving yards than RJ Harvey

who was eighth among NFL running backs and receiving yards last year. No, I think

I think that past protections is interesting. Also, Kendrick born really in the chat.

I haven't been able to see the chat much. I feel like we're sitting farther away today actually,

but that's not the time. But yeah, I can just imagine how that would go. But if you're talking

receiver, you're talking receiver as your little Jordan Humphrey replacement. So that's that's

kind of your bar there. So just keep that in mind as you decide whether or not to melt down,

I'm not going to tell you whether to do one or the other. The question is, I mean, are we using

are they going to have personnel this year at the same amount in the volume of personnel? That's

why I don't really mind the troutman signing because I don't think he is going to. I would think

that Davis Web is going to have people who are out there more consistently than changing personnel

every play. And I think Davis is going to bring a different dynamic in terms of play calling,

but then also personnel. So I didn't see the trout signing as a a tell sign or running backs.

I just think it's going to be a little bit different. I think a big focus for Web is more tempo.

And that means keeping your personnel the same. So you're not slowing down the tempo by making

substitutions. And that would imply more 11 personnel, three wide receiver sets. Yeah. Which is,

you know, that's like the McVeigh standard is run everything out of 11 and be able to

do everything out of 11. Now that requires bigger wide receivers.

When there's tighter wide receiver sets can be relied upon as blockers as well, right?

I like the McVeigh set that he went with this year, which was three tight ends. A lot.

Yeah. And he was going three tight ends. Right. A lot. Yeah. I don't know if they just think about it

like that. I wonder. I would love to live in a world where the Broncos have three tight ends

consistently on. Right. Well, then they're just good enough to do it. Or it's like we can have

three tight ends and we can pass the ball. Yeah. And first of all, you have to get to the point

where you have three tight ends and you can run the ball. Because as of right now, like

have an Ingram. If he's on the field, you don't run the ball all that well. And so I

it would be they were doing that last year. And then it's like apprentices out.

Like I would love to live in some day that will happen the best. They've got a little too cute

with that in my opinion. They have a tendency to get a little too cute back to ETN though. I think

see, first of all, the redundancy a little bit with RJ Harvey isn't something I mind. I think

it's a lot of fun. You point to the past protection. I think I think that's huge because then all

of a sudden you have, you have like a baseline way you use them. It's like, okay, third downs.

It's ETN. It's a little bit weird taking Harvey off the field and passing situations, considering

he's one of the best receiving backs in the NFL already. But how good of a receiving back can

you really be if you can't play third downs because you can't pass protect? And so that for him is

the first box, obviously, that needs to be checked. I think if you teach RJ to pass protect,

you're talking about like a James White at minimum, or it's like the rest of his career,

he can be a James White or even upgraded or throw whoever he want in that mix, whether it's like

your Darren Sproles. You can hope that you can get him to Alvin. But while ETN coming in being able

to pass protect, does mean that you have like two backs who can fill every job in the offense.

I still want to see RJ eventually become your pass protection guy because I do think he's a better

receiving back than ETN. And you got to find ways to get him on the field to use that skill set,

which just means you have to be able to protect. But as to patch a gap this year, they do make sense

to be such an obvious tell. Kenny Gainwell, right, to the Buccaneers, which means Rashad White,

who's a free agent who I'm quite intrigued by probably out of Tampa. And I think he would be

another in that ETN camp of an intriguing receiving back in this offense. Does he overlap too much

with RJ? Who knows? He has 214 pounds though. So you've got that going for him. And he's still 27.

I think that'd be a nice by low candidate in that running back room.

And then in alternate universe, we could have been spending a lot of time talking about kind of

Gainwell because he's one of the most jokery backs in the NFL in terms of usage. Like he winds up

in the slot more than I think any other running back did this year, but it's just not really what

you're looking for because you want somebody to compliment with RJ a little bit more so that he

can he can do some of that. So he just we never really talked much about Gainwell. If the running

back room was RJ Rashad White and JK Dobbins, do we feel like that's a significant upgrade over

what you had last year? Yes. But the caveat is that he's thinking JK. JK is the final move.

Like you're getting the other things figured out and then signing JK. And I'm not sure JK is

signing into that room, which I think is kind of the missing piece from a lot of the rooms we

sometimes see on Twitter. It's like first you go get for you can't go get ETN and expect JK

Dobbins to sign that one's obvious. But also people want to tell her I'll cheer it's like go get

I'll cheer and get JK to I'm not sure JK says this is my best opportunity because he's going to

have opportunities to go be a lead back somewhere. It's just where exactly that is. And for him,

it might just be a team that isn't all that good because they they they're willing to take the risk

of not having the guy at the end of the year. I'm curious. Yeah. With the with the league

things about JK obviously you know JK got off to and had an incredible half the season. But

like what does the league now think about him? Is it really worth it? Or is he just now that

running back that you signed right before training camp? He's not that guy that you have in a room

before OTAs similar to what the Broncos did. I just don't I don't I think you you go somebody you

go with somebody who doesn't have the injury history. I think the injury history really really

scares you because that's what you need to down the stretch. And that's somebody who could help

tremendously regardless of the Botanix injury in the Patriots AST Championship game. So I think

you need you need a healthy running back. You need a running back who doesn't have all of the

injury history. So you know JK's a last resort for me. Somebody that I know the Broncos have a

tremendous amount of respect for. I think he added a different element of swagger. But if you can go

younger and you can go healthier, that's where I believe you go. And worth mentioning just a year

go at this point, he also had a really nice first half of the season with the chargers and wasn't

signed until after the draft. Yeah. It was again, because he got hurt. Yes.

I'm right there with you, Benny, in that like last resort is JK because of the injuries.

He's really good about it. Right. Yeah. I think where I might differ is just that after ETN,

I'm at my last resort because to me, if you tell me both guys are going to be on the field,

I say JK Dobbins is going to give you more than ETN does. If you say both guys are going to be

on the field for a giving game, JK gives you more than Kenneth Walker does. And we see what Kenneth

Walker did last year and we see if JK had played past week 10, he was on pace for almost 1400 yards

and doing it very efficiently and all that. I think just in terms of talent and in terms of like

if he's on the field production, he's, he would have been the top free agent in this class.

But again, with the injuries, I'm willing to tell you absolutely.

27. So he's still yeah, it's not bad. So I think Russian yards per game, he was six

than the NFL last year. He has 27. Right. Like it's right up there. So I think

it is a last resort. But given that the top is so thin in this free agent class,

I'm just pretty quick to say, I don't, I don't want Rico Doudel running my offense. Like

Tyler Algier doesn't give you the juice. Like I'm, I'm kind of once ETN's off the board,

I'm to my last resort, which is JK Dobbins.

And again, I think the, I think the free agency market has some good options at running back.

Yeah, I wouldn't feel that way. It's just one case a bit of Fools gold in some ways.

It's true. He absolutely is. Because I mean, he just doesn't really actually play.

Yeah. I mean, we talked about before. Like it's not just that the Broncos needed to

running back down the stretch last year. And if they had it, they might have won a championship.

And the same thing happened to the Ravens a few years ago, where if they had a healthy JK,

who knows if that's enough, and they wind up going and getting Derek Henry and all that sort of

stuff. But I just, because I think they made the AMC championship game as well with JK out.

Can you tell me more about Tyler Algier? I haven't seen any film on him. Yeah, I mean,

productive as a rookie. He's BYU. Just big physical back, like 226 pounds or something like that.

Pure bulldozer. And before the Falcons had Bijon, he had a pretty efficient like 950 yard

season or something like that. Then they get Bijon workload goes down. They mostly give him the

big back snaps. And so as efficiency went way down, you could kind of sell yourself on

like the success rate didn't dip as much because you're saying, like, well, he is converting

this third and one. And so it counts as a success, even if it hurts the average.

To me, he's, he's just another guy. Like when I say Kenneth Walker isn't one of like,

there are a dozen guys I'd probably take in front. Algier, there's probably 32 guys,

or maybe even more. Like to me, he's, he's just a guy. And in Doubles, like a tick in front of him

probably. But those are not running backs who good rushing off fences or nobody they don't excite

you. Not in any way. Yeah. Eight Russian touchdowns last season as a rookie, 1035 Russian yards,

4.9 Russian yards per average, three tuts. He's still just 25, 225 pounds.

And so he's a bigger guy. Yeah, he's your bruising back. Yeah. He'd compliment Arja. I don't,

Arja, you're every down back though. No. So you just have to figure out what do you want from him?

Yeah. And how do you patch that together? And that's where I think ETN with those redundancies,

it means that like the gap up the middle rushing schemes probably just don't fit your offense,

which means you're, you're taking some things out of your playbook, which is always scary.

But we know that last year they spent the entire off season trying to implement a wide-zone running

scheme. And the results were kind of matte. If you add ETN to Arjay Harvey, could you lean into

that and all of a sudden you have like a real fastball in the run game that you build everything

else off of. And then you get the crack tosses go you get the misdirection going off of that. So

I'm not as worried about those redundancies, which means you could add like the more

power back to Paratharjay, you could add the more speed back to Paratharjay. And I think almost

anything works. Well, and I mean, having a backfield where regardless of who's in the backfield,

there a threat to catch the ball and break a big one, that's a nice totally weapon to have. It is

duality to lean in on. Right. And I also go back to having JK Dobbins who just gave you five yards

per carry at almost 80 yards per game was also just nice to have. And at some point push comes

to shove and you say, he does. But JK, what was coming when JK was lining up in the backfield,

it was like, okay, this will be a run in the A gap, but that couldn't stop it. Yeah, for sure.

Which is something. I also want I swear Liam Cohen was running more gap stuff in Jacksonville.

And that's where ETN came alive. So I don't think he's like, wide zone dependent. No, even though

I'd agree that the skill set probably lends itself more to the wide zone type stuff. Definitely.

There was more of that. But I would agree. It's just the big like the big plays were coming on

the outside stuff. He was doing enough up the middle to like stay on the field. But it's the crack

toss where he's picking up big gains. Yeah. And he was taking some hits too. ETN does take a couple

of hits. Let's go back. Right. Didn't always like win on those though. Yeah, it's not a truck you

run you over, but he's like 215 pounds and get downhill. Just makes you wonder what happens in

December and January. Because that's when like the lean into the outside zone like we got these

two speedbacks were tough to stop. That's when when you're just trying to keep the offense on

schedule. That's where it kills you. Yeah. Deon's got a little tweet to bring up for us too, I believe.

Not huge news, but we do have Breeze Hall saying, damn, we sure got a lot of money in

Florian Park, all these contracts, dude, signing. Oh, we have RK coming back as well. What would

you trade for him for Breeze? Yeah. Or would you not trade for him? I would trade something for him.

I he's he's probably better than Kenneth Walker. But again, he's in that tier where it's like

functional number one running back, not like special back. Give third round pick if the contracts

not bad. He's not do you think he's he's not worth the Kenneth contract or you would say he is.

Not worth it, but that's what he costs. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's what he would have gotten.

How you feeling, Ryan? I feel great. Still okay. I thought a little bit more about Kenneth Walker

while I was off the show. And I do think it is important to note that he was not a good fit

for what Sean Payton likes out of his back. Does not catch the ball out of the backfield and does

not protect the passer. True. So that's you you would still have Tyler Bade on the field. And if

you have him in a RJ who can't and if I think about it just from the the chief's lens, I think it

would have been a better move for them to get ETN than Kenneth Walker. Just in terms of fitting

what they like to do. Yeah. I think their thought is we just we need to get a run game going

because the best way to help Patrick Mahomes is to have some thread of a run game which they just

haven't had. I think that's fair to you. Yeah. I'm I'm starting to think we might not be getting any

moves. I know I think we've all kind of gone through our phases. Maybe you've really had a crash

out would be too strong of a word. But I'm hitting my little low where it's like come on we gotta

give me something. Yeah. I just tweeted this right here. Oh, yeah. The Broncos are

100 and 100 born that would accelerate the crash because it's I think he could be a really good

signing. I think I think as your fifth ride wide receiver, like you you move him up in the

little Jordan Humphrey role. Like sure. You could sell me on like you just a little Jordan Humphrey

role. You don't think so? Absolutely not. I almost just cast. Yeah, I think we're all about to

cast. I this is just bad PR. Right. Just bad timing for that days to come out. Let that come out

in like two days and be fine. It's similar to the year where like five minutes into free agency,

the Broncos sign, Jared Stidham as like the first movie and it's like, well, that's a let down.

Where does born fit in the receiver room? He's your number five back of it. Yeah, because you

number five. I was a number five receiver. We signed on second week or third, right? You don't

sign. You don't sign on opening day. You can't miss out on the board. You can't miss out on him.

I'm trying to figure out what George Payton's thinking is right there because you have

Pat Bryant. You got Troy Franklin and going into year three. Mems going into year four. And

you got your veteran and Cortland Sutton and your go to guy. Those are your four. Like where is

Kendrick born catching passage right there? Yeah, he's not. LJ is a more experienced blocker in

this offense. He's your big body. Third and one, you can you can sneak him in and out. You can

do the little high plays. You can find different ways and opportunities to get him the ball in like

some of these heavy run formations. And he's a great blocker. I don't see where Kendrick born fits.

That's just me right now. I mean, I have to go look at his tape from last year, but obviously

as an experienced veteran, he played really well for the 49ers last year. But where's he going to

catch the ball in this offense? You want your young guys to continue to elevate? Yeah. No, I

agree. Like you're not signing Kendrick born because you're going to throw him the football,

which is why it's kind of a, this is not the most exciting report. Just, yeah, I just can't get

out right now. No, if you got to keep that in a secret. But if you're Kendrick born's agent,

there's no way, like, it's like, oh my, somebody wants Kendrick on day one. We got to get this

out there. Tell every reporter. Yeah, like, is Adam Prentice a free agent? No, we got him locked up.

Okay. Don't worry. I don't care if Adam Prentice resigns right now, like, you're not

allowed to talk about it. Keep it a secret for this. Yeah. We get something has to happen first.

Yeah. I mean, I get it's one of those things where I know where this is headed to. Where is it headed?

Just to send people into the ultimate spiral is that it's going to be the Alex Singleton news.

That is going to be first up. Yeah. I wonder because we've been generally like pretty high on

bringing Alex Singleton back. We haven't talked much about Devon Lloyd, who one option would be

instead of giving $8 million a year to Singleton, instead of keeping Dre Greenlaw and

giving him the $8.5 million you could save, you could just say, hey, there's $16 million

we could go hand to Devon Lloyd. Devon Lloyd and Justin Sirnau would excite me.

I mean, that would be like the tallest, linkiest running or linebacker room in the NFL.

Yeah. Like there's some range there. But yeah, that would excite me. Oh, say, that would

excite me. I say, Kendra Porns on NFL Network right now is he. There's no way he's got hats out

in front of me. The moment we've all been waiting for. No, it's probably because he thought he was

going to retire something like this. I'm going on media today and we're reaching out to him.

Yeah. He was like, well, there's no way I'm going to be busy on day one of three agencies. So I might

as well go. But no, this was like the most likely scenario and has been for a very long time.

Like since the Broncos locked up their own free agents in September, we knew this was not going to

be a year where you're spending a lot of money and free agency. Like you just don't have a lot to

spend, but sitting here in that world isn't isn't all that fun. In fact, all these pigsby's in the

chat as much as I love the pigsby's, it is giving me flashbacks to the trade deadline show or just

like, this is two hours and nothing happened. Nothing happened. Yeah.

Nothing happened. I crashed out on that one. I didn't think I was crashing out that day,

but I did crash out. You did. We'll see what happens. I mean, the Broncos generally haven't

been the first ones to jump and make a move in free agency. So maybe we should have

no prepared for that better. Well, we just had such a rush when it was the first

Jean-Pétain free agency where they get Ben Powers right away. They get Maglinchy. They get Zach

Allen and just back to back to back. I think that was also the stitle one. That was when stitle

was like five minutes in and then 10 minutes later, it's Ben Powers. And so they gave us the rush

that one year, which is why we remembered that much more than last year. We're nothing really

happened the year before where they hardly even signed a free agent. I think Brandon Jones at

like $8 million a year was the big one. That's because of the rust dead cap hit. Yeah. Yeah.

But again, people, I think part of the reason people thought this year that there could be more

of like a free agency impact is because you had the $30 million rust dead cap hit last year.

What people don't realize is that they had already restructured all those contracts so that they

wouldn't feel the effects of that 30 million and push so many of like Zach Allen's money down the

road and Maglinchy's money down the road that really you didn't feel $50 million dead cap from

rust in 2024. 30 million in 2025. It's more like you felt like 10, 15 million that first year,

you felt like 10, 15 million the second year. And you're going to continue to kind of feel that

because you already push so much other money down the line to counteract those effects. Yeah.

Um, I will say also like we'll see what happens with ETN. I think that would be one that would

that will excite people. But technically, the longer this goes, the better it is for the Broncos.

Because usually the longer players are available the cheaper they are. That's true.

So if some Broncos signed Travis ETN tomorrow and got a $1 million discount,

that's a good thing. But in the context of right now, less fun, less fun, and everyone's going to

panic, especially if it goes as, you know, everyone goes to sleep tonight and the Broncos still

haven't made a big bit or worst case scenario. There's just a massive Travis ETN bidding war right now

from all the teams that need a running back and missed out on Kenneth Walker. Which

probably is. That's there's a chance. I think that is true. There's a chance. I don't know if it's

it's a bidding war though as much as it is. It's going to come down to him choosing who he wants

to go to or the money all being pretty much the same. Right. Also interesting. The Seahawks didn't

bring Kenneth Walker back because that was a team that did have money to spend. And like when

when the guy is a Super Bowl MVP, it's tough to just let him walk out the building two months later,

one month later. I think they already had their mind made up and they weren't going to get caught

up in the Super Bowl MVP thing. They I mean, they knew it was a contract year. They would take

him out in the red zone. Right. I do weird things like that. Right. Yeah. He I think Zach made

this point after the show for us on whatever day. I don't remember. They all together. But he said,

you know, that's the move of a GM who's won two Super Bowls. And it's true. Like when you have that

sort of leash, you can make those types of moves. When you're kind of like at the mercy of the

public eye and what the city and the fan base thinks of you, you might have to kind of keep

Super Bowl MVP around. But, you know, he has a long leash from Seahawks fans who are probably

upset about this, but believe in the plan. And he's not the Kenneth Walker if he had more of the

of a personality of yeah, being such a beloved person in the locker room in the city. Then he

got a reason. But like you said, he had a second best game ever in the last game. And the Seahawks

didn't really or couldn't really run the ball all year. Like they got a lot of attention for like

they were the one team in the NFL who ran more than half the time or whatever the stat was in the

regular season. But they weren't really doing it all that effectively. It wasn't until the very

end where things just kind of clicked and next thing you know, they're often right. So like if you

would talk to a Seahawks fan like mid December, late December, like should we run it back with this

running back room odds are they were going to say no. It just happened to be that you hit

you had all that juice late in the year, which skews things. So maybe they did just

it probably is smart to not let your mind be totally changed by

the one game at the end of the year. But man did he make a lot of money.

He was really three games. Yeah. Okay. He was good in all the playoff games. But

yeah, it's we'll see. I hope that we look back and say, oh man, Chiefs should have seen it coming

that he wants to rule MVP and the Seahawks didn't still didn't want him. Right. That's what mean

it's a red flag. Yes. It's a little bit of a red flag. I mean, I think it all depends on offense

offensive lines. I think it depends on play colors. You just lost your play color as well,

which I think is huge. And then also I think you're okay. You're willing to let a running back go.

Like the Eagle or not the Eagles, but the Giants let Seahawks go. Clearly a generational attack.

Obviously it was a huge mistake. I'm not saying Kenneth Walter is Seahawks. I've always said

do it with the Giants. People walk like that walk out of the building.

Yeah. Yeah. Walker isn't like some generational talent where you're like, oh, we got it's we

it's a no sure we got to bring them back. That is true. I'm right there with you.

Still no Broncos news. What's what's what's kind of the dream situation at this point? Because they

don't have a lot of money to spend. Like what what is the world in which like on May 1st we're

looking back and saying what a great offseason for the Broncos and all of us. I first round the

client for Justin Jefferson. Oh, wow. I can't imagine. Yeah, that that's it. Okay. That's

a trade. Yeah. I can't sell you on like Broncos can't make free agency moves because they have to

have the cap space to bring in Justin Jefferson. Yeah. That'd be nice. I do think that AJ Brown

is much more likely. Yes. I think Jalen Waddle is much much more likely. More likely than AJ.

Absolutely. By the way, if you get Waddle, so the dolphins are taking on 99 million dollars in

deadcap sick by getting out of to a that's 14 million more than the Broncos took on with us.

The Broncos, I feel like laid out the blueprint. How do you do this? How do you get out from under

this insane dark cloud that hangs over you? And it involves drafting a quarterback.

So where the dolphins go, do they go and pay a bunch of money to believe Willis?

That yeah. That part makes it tough. They might have to trade people just to have

any totally room to like get draft picks. Yeah. I think I mean, I think

I think the Broncos have had conversations about Jalen Waddle in the past. I think at multiple

times in the past, they've had conversations and this might be the time when it makes sense.

But yeah, and I'm not a huge Jalen Waddle guy myself. Why not?

Doesn't make tough catches, first of all. And you benefit a little bit by the fact that

like he's he's a good separator. And so that means that there are a few of those.

Ali. Right. But how often are you actually? If you told me that the next trend in the NFL

is going to be defense start playing a bunch of man coverage, I'd be like, okay,

Jalen Waddle's like a guy go after. But in the current world, we live in where it's like what,

it's like 60, 70% zone at this point. I think that Waddle just doesn't quite have the skill set

to be dominant in that in that situation, which is why he hasn't been dominant. You know,

it's why you plug him in and he goes and gets you a thousand yards, which is really nice.

But it isn't something that puts him in like what a clear upgrade over

Cortland Sutton Territory, which I think is what you're looking for. He to me is like,

oh, I don't think he's a clear upgrade. I mean, those receivers are already taken.

Okay. Okay. I'll add this then. If you expect a thousand yards from him, as I've said repeatedly,

like Troy Franklin 700 yards is a 22 year old last year. I think there's a good chance that by

the end of next year, we're saying Troy Franklin, Jalen Waddle, people are torn on which one they'd

rather have. Wow. Okay. There I got you there. Okay. Yeah. I don't believe that. I think Troy,

yeah, Troy had a great second year, but I think Waddle difference. I think a different skill set,

can separate. Although there is that 60% 70% zone, like you were saying, not all of those are elite

zone teams Seattle is only a couple of elite zone teams. You're going to have your man-to-man on

third downs, which most teams will play. You have these third and shorts. And I think Scramble drew

wise. I think Waddle could be better. Yak-wise, he's way better. Right. That is definitely true.

That is probably the Broncos need. They need the yak. That is what that what he brings to the table.

They do need the yak. Someone in the chat asked, where is the energy? I just what what could

we possibly be energetic about right now? Yeah, I know. I'm this deep into the coffee and I'm

just waiting for something to happen at this point. We're in, we're an hour and 40 yet.

I did think that we're working overtime, right? We'd have something by now. I thought I thought it

was more likely to have multiple moves than no moves at this point. This is my first for agency

show with you guys, and I definitely thought we would have moves. Yeah. No, it's a little bit lame

when you don't move. You'd think like I at least like a mid level move. Can I just you and Kendrick

born? I still I don't think that would get us hyped. I don't think that's even

that almost have offered Mike Evans north of $27 million per year.

If you were to tell me it's a one year deal, I'd say, yep. I mean, this is because if Alex

Pierce is a guy who you say, I think I think you put him in the right system, 1150.

We're going to give him twice. I mean, even that might be a little bit optimistic.

You tell me Mike Evans for one year, he's going to cost that much. He's probably going to go get

you that 1100 yards if he's healthy. If teams are willing to pay him $27 million per year,

he's not taking a one year deal. The per year framing is the tough part.

But I'm just saying like, if your market is that large, take the two year 22.

Yeah, well, I don't even think that's per yet. I don't think you have to negotiate like that. You

just say, okay, four teams are willing to pay me $27 for one year, which one of you is willing

to do it for two. And I'll sign with you. Albert Breer then added word was Mike Evans camp told

teams he had a one year $27 million offer from someone. There you go. Whether or not that's actually

the case, we'll see. That is a nice part about being an agent as you just say whatever you want.

Right. If you're telling the truth half the time, that's enough to scare teams into thinking you

might get first history of Carolina. Whoa, it probably is. It's always somebody like that.

It is because they have the money. They would want that particular upgrade. And you've seen

them over and over again. Imagine the PTSD Panthers fans had a road of feeling that he is nice.

Totally. You know, you don't have to pay him yet. Right. You don't have to pay him yet.

If they did that, after also getting Jalen Phillips, because the Panthers all year,

we're a team where it's like they're like sure, they're finally average congrats on that.

But they do have the tools to like take it up a notch. Yeah, but if the if his agent said

Mike Evans wasn't interested in the Broncos because of Courtland Sutton,

then would he not be interested in the Panthers because of Teterua McMillan?

That's a tough one because like because I would, there's no way McMillan had

1000 yards last year. I don't know what the number is. I guess like in the seven hundred year.

They're off as a rookie of the year.

Should we go after Jalen Naylor? I mean, I love my parties. So if you know,

they if the Broncos wanted to sign them, I'm going to be very happy for them. I think the Broncos

still need that receiver that can separate and Jalen's, you know, more of a fourth, fifth receiver.

He had 1014. Yeah. That's crazy. Again, but you don't even realize because he's doing it with the

damn Panthers. Yeah, um, arguably the most irrelevant franchise. Who else would be in there?

Like they just have everything like no fans. They, but the Cardinals at least have been a round

long enough that like they have track as a tiebreaker, the Panthers are just so young that.

Yeah, when I said irrelevant, it's like you're going through a list of

all 32 NFL teams. Which one do you think of? Who do you forget? Yeah. Could be probably the Cardinals.

Cardinals would be right there. I mean, Panthers, which are super bowl. I mean,

I definitely have nothing years. Cardinals have never been to one.

They they've had this the boss of the Steelers in that one. So I don't think the card,

but that's almost even more embarrassing is that you'd never remember it because they're the Cardinals.

Wow. The car. That's how irrelevant they are. Wouldn't be, wouldn't be late for me because the first

things I always think of are the West. I go, I have C West, then I go NFC West.

Right. And the rail west coast bias. Well, in those, yes, you never hear of that. And those are

the easiest ones to remember because they're actually located where they're supposed to be.

Yeah. And you're just like, well, there's there's no way that there's like thousands of square

miles of no NFL team. And so you'd be thinking like, what's down there? What's down there? Oh, yeah,

the Cardinals are down there. Whereas like the Titans just kind of over there on those teams everywhere.

Desperate need of a rebrand. The Panthers. Yeah. Yeah.

Man, that's how bad, or I don't want to say a bad day. This has been for the Broncos,

but how quiet of a day this has been for the Broncos that we just did 10 minutes on the Panthers.

That was like 45 seconds. Was it? Time does not fly when you're talking about the Panthers.

Yeah, I felt like that. Raiders just made a signing. Oh, really? Yeah. They got Tyler Linbaum,

27 million dollars a year, but I mean, some Raiders fans now would probably say best center in

the NFL. You could point to like Creed Humphrey or I mean, the new Eagles guy, but I mean,

you're you're right up there. Yeah, this is this is what you do if you're the Raiders though. You

have the money. What do you do? You ditch any form of defense and give Fernando the best chance

you can to succeed. Save that money, move all your money, the offense, build the offense,

figure out the defense and the time comes and offensive line is where they struggle. You got

your left tackle. Now you got your center. I think go sign and one more free agent lineman,

draft a guy in the first round. Yeah. That's all great. Mendoza is going to bust with the Raiders,

so that is what happens. You don't believe Mendoza. You shouldn't believe in the Raiders. Both.

See, I 100% believe in Mendoza. Like, I think that's just, he has all the things you can't coach.

Um, and so I think like mentality or mental, like he's he is going before the play. He has every

single answer. And I, I just think that the Raiders probably do find a way to fail. Raiders always

find a way to fail. Yeah. I mean, yeah, if he was going to a good team, I would believe in him,

but that never, it never works out that way. No, that's the thing about being the number one pick. Yeah.

Yeah. Tell her out of the car. The car nose, the cardinals, busy in the Broncos, 12.25 million

over two years, six million a year. Sure. I mean, that's probably what he's worth. Six million

dollars isn't what it used to be. No, as somebody who someday I would love to have six million

dollars. We'll be working my way there. But no, that's just six million dollars is the new three

million dollars. Yeah. Yeah, for the runner backs. Yeah, or just for NFL NFL, running back some

particular though, but yeah, NFL in general, three million dollar deals just don't really happen

anymore. No, it's impossible to get a three million dollar deal, which I think maybe colors,

some of like the, that's what I was kind of hoping and JK comes back. I know. That's like, that's

I'm like five million dollars, five million dollars, the new to many guarantees. I'm not sure we

know. Yeah. How much are you guaranteeing if JK stands in one year five? You can have all of it.

I think five, you're going to guarantee all five million. You are nuts. I think, I think you could

also do something where it's like three million dollar, three million dollar base with incentives

up to like seven and a half or something. But I think if it's, if it's only five million bucks,

I'm, I think you probably just have to say you get it. What I will say about Tyler,

you're going to the Cardinals is all of the hype around him is going to die very fast.

Yeah, no, you're not going to hear Tyler, old year's name maybe ever again.

Well, that's not true. First half of the season, he'll score a couple of touchdowns on Red

Zone. But as of like December of 2025 or 2026, you can say goodbye. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, here's

another hit to the people that wanted him. So they're going to be like, everything's happening,

but I never wanted him. No, never, never wanted to touch him.

Wow. I mean, because we what we have plan A plan B plan C plan A,

it's Kenneth Walker plan B was ETN plan C was Dobbins. Right. So plan B and C are still on the board.

It is also nice to be a team where you feel like if you offer a guy contract, he'll choose your

offer. Like, like, none of us have any doubt that JK would just like come back if given the

opportunity. Yep. And Evan Lucas, aka Luca Evans, did report this morning that the Broncos weren't

ever in on Tyler out year. This is before. Right. He sided with the Cardinals. Yeah. I mean,

I know I want to be respectful to the Tyler Algier fans and the chat we've been hearing from,

but I just don't know what the real appeal is. But I mean, maybe the appeal is recognizing what

else is on the market is like, if you tell me Algier or doubt, I'll like, sure, whatever. I mean,

I'd go doubt, but not but I wouldn't blame anybody for going Algier. That's just kind of what

happens this year after the top couple of bags. Will we get news in the next 10 minutes? No. No.

But keep watching, please. Stick around just in case. That's what we're doing. That's what we're

doing. I could go for hours. Why not? I was thinking like, yeah, I should probably get out here

quickly, go write the film room on whatever because I might be trying to knock out two film rooms

today. But no, that's not how this day is trending. No, it's not. So we could just sit here all day.

We haven't talked about the chargers at all. We talked about the chiefs, we talked about the

raiders. Chargers are wait. Right. Exactly. Because you forget that they even exist. Until you're like,

wait, who have we not talked about in the Alexander West? Oh, yeah, those guys. I think I saw that

they were one of the teams in on Mike Evans. I think I saw that. Right. Because if you have

Mike Williams doesn't work out and you go get Quentin Johnston, who's now going to be traded,

eventually it's time just to say, wow, about 30 million bucks on a guy who's over the hill,

but can do that thing we've been looking for. Yeah. Got to have a big receiver named Mike.

Right. If you don't have a big receiver named Mike, you're not the chargers.

Yeah. Yeah, it's tough. There's a reason we didn't say anything about the chargers.

There aren't a lot of things to say about them. Naji Harris is a free agent, I believe.

What if they get ETN? Well, I guess they got Hampton. Oh, right. They would pair pretty well

together. I still would care to a comment that was in there earlier after I was talking about the

dolphins paying all that money to Malik Willis. Someone was like, well, they have to start some quarterback.

There's no one for them to draft. I think they did it the complete wrong way. Like to sign

the Jared Stidum of the world. Yeah. They got Zach Wilson already there. There you go.

I think he might be a free agent. Yes. I mean, you can give him the sign Zach Wilson. Start him.

And if you tank, you tank. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, why not? You don't have to pay the most money to any free agent quarterback.

That is true. Definitely don't have to do that. 22 million years now. It's really not.

You have to remember, 22 million is the new 16. It's similar to like the Case Keenum deal back in

the day. But you're saying 25 to two. You could have also just paid six instead, saved that 16

million bucks. And when you're someday in the because you can roll over cap when you're in the

position that the Broncos are in now, you can say like this $16 million. We can go get Kenneth

Walker for a new head coach. But that's thinking about you for a new head coach that's coming from

Green Bay. Speaking from his perspective, he wants somebody that he testing a lot makes him

feel comfortable because yeah, yeah, you might want to tank from an organization standpoint. But

this can might be his only time to be the head coach. And they're still going to be bad.

Yeah, they are. They are. Yeah, that's worse. Yeah. But eventually, like, I mean,

coaching standpoint, I give you a penny. Yeah. But it's like, you can be bad while still feeling

like we're laying some sort of foundation here. Like, like we at least have a quarterback who can do

like something, but like we can, we can know which of our receivers are worth keeping in which

are not. You can't start a quarterback out there next year who's only making six million dollars.

I would. You would. The NFL. In Madden. That would work. I know what you're doing.

And six million. Yeah. And your quarterbacks make it.

Everybody, everybody's starting for the offense is making more than the quarterback.

And I would say, don't you remember? We offered Brian Flores. What was it? A million dollars per loss.

Yeah. That's sick. Oh, no news. I again, like Algiers, a bargain.

I don't know that he is. He just might not be that good. The Broncos didn't want him. So what? Right.

Dallas Goddard can no longer run. Also can no longer block. Just put some weird situation. How does

he no longer block? Like, right? You would think what causes your blocking to deteriorate?

I can't tell you causes. I can show you clips, though. They would make you say, well,

I can't block. Have you seen the clips of Adam Trappman that are out there this morning?

That is the thing about the clips. Of course they are. Of course they are. They turn so quickly.

Or it's the same thing where it's like that same Alex Singleton lowlight videos been going around.

I can give you two minutes of Pat Zartan lowlights from this season. Like that's that's he

he was he was third in the NFL and passenger appearance calls. You just start with those. Like,

there's there's your first like pretty sweet. Exactly. Right. But that's the thing is like,

you could make a lowlight video literally anybody. Yeah. Which is also why I have to be responsible.

What the highlight videos? Is it similar? The Patrick Mahomes lowlight. Right. It'd be hilarious.

It would be because all his interceptions are like one footed off the wrong leg or something.

What is this guy thinking? What it what a moron. Yeah. Herber has a good lowlight reel. He does.

Even out in lowlight reel. Even both. That would be played to Yacke de Saas. Oh, my

it has been like those first two years. There was a lowlight reel that had like millions of views

on YouTube because they were hilarious because it's like literally like running the wrong way,

throwing the ball over his head. He's like, what are you what are you doing? But no, like

bonix. You could make the he had a couple of the little skippers to guys who are 10 yards in front of

them. That's that's the nature of those things. We only have five more minutes. It's all it's all

setting in for me right now. Three super chats. Okay. Yep. Let's hit some super chats. First one is

from C.T.O.D. Ghost. Just gave us money. Man, what a nice guy. Kyler vote. Who says no?

Just get two first stitty mims, powers J.Mac. We get Bruce and Garrett. We get two

studs. Make room to pay them and Palcho and Jade. Jade can start. First of all, crazy overpay.

Yeah. Because like the two first alone, I'm out. No one of those players are worth that. Yeah.

But I know that you would make a splash. You would be on the headlines on ESPN all day. That's

because like there's never been a trade like this in the NFL. You know what the worst part is?

We have to say goodbye to Benny right now. That's the second worst part. Bye, Benny. Thanks for

coming on. Sorry. We didn't have any more fun than we did. But we do have Drake come back.

For some emergency pods. Yes. You will be ready. Emergency pods all day or all week whenever

something happens. All weeks. All weeks. All weeks. It could be weeks before we get our first.

The worst part though of that trade happening would be that because the jets are involved,

all the conversation would be about the jets. So you'd hardly even hear about like, oh,

the Broncosale this because you'd have Mike Greenberg on ESPN saying like, oh, the jets are

what, back as they got stood in the margins. People either just did this. You know, he would just

put aside the Marco Davis, the Mario, the Mario. Yeah. Rebuilding the defense streets are saying, right?

OJFM signing yet, huh? No. Benny War. Obi-Wan, Jacobi. Now that Davis Web is OC,

do we think he is more vocal about a receiver running back for the agent? I want Kenneth Walker.

This must have happened a while ago. Also, DMVR needs to resign. Benny, no tampering, please. Damn,

tough time for him to just leave before somebody says something nice. Yeah, that is. I'll never hear

that. Yeah. He never will. We will never share that. Right. Because even if he turned us on, he

doesn't turn us on until he gets to the car. There's a car. Yeah, he missed it. Right. He missed it.

That was the window. He gets to the car. Rewinds. He'd have to be a real diehard. Benny, if that happened,

let us know. I'm also pro resigning, Benny. Yeah, pro resigning, Benny. I

wait, breaking news. We could use this right now. I think we've got them.

For those who don't know, the general manager, DMVR, breaking news, they need to have a deal

for the rest of the year. At least we did something. We did those coming for a little free

agency recap next week. Well, a few off-sees. What happened with the Broncos makes zero moves?

Would you like a hard one to talk through? I have an idea for you guys. Please, let's end this show

on the worst possible note. Oh, that's how it's gonna be. Travis ETN is a New Orleans Saint.

It was out there. It was out there as a possibility, as the top place. Now it is no longer a

possibility. It is a reality. Travis ETN will be signing with the New Orleans Saints. He's from

Louisiana. Correct. And it was important for him to be near home. So unless I've been looking at

maps wrong, Broncos never had a chance. I always thought that that one in Madden was bullshit.

Right. Nobody wants to be near home. They want to be on good teams. Payed a lot of money.

Yep. That was Adam Shaftor, by the way. So, okay, say, anybody had doubts.

Well, let's hope it's a lot of money so we can say, yeah, we didn't want to do that anyway.

Wouldn't that be nice? Well, if this comes in, it's like, it's four years, but it's only eight

million a year somehow. Yeah. That's good. That would hurt. Get ready to learn Rico Dowdled, buddy.

You know, it's fun because every year it's kind of like, I can cowboy's on this schedule because

we'll go for 200. Rico Dowdled is great. The only back-to-back thousand-yard Russia in this

free agency class, right? Yeah. No, it's true. I'm sure that's actually incorrect. I'm sure ETN

had backed back. I'm not as big a Dowdled as Henry is. But I do think Plancy is just Dobbins.

I mean, that's like going back to your ex-wife, you know, who is always out of the country.

He's always out of the country. Yeah. Gave in Mexico, potentially, though, which he does

be Spanish if there's a place he went. That would be the, that's a country he's in. Yeah,

I'll do my Dowdled thing that I've been doing recently. The thing is, like, so thousand yards squeaked

over a thousand this year for the Panthers, credit to him for that. About 400 of those yards came

and backed back weeks in, like, early October, late September against the dolphins and against the

cowboys, where it's like, wow, you really did torch the dolphins and cowboys, but the rest of the

year, you put up like 3.7 per carry. With the cowboys, he did the reverse. He wasn't playing the first

half of the season, then came on in the second half of the season. But it's not so much like the

timing of the things happening as much as I just say cowboys and dolphins merchant. Like, like,

I feel like I would not average 200 yards per game in the back to back weeks against the dolphins

cowboys, but I would average on his touches like 15 a game, which is the equivalent wrong.

Yeah. No, I don't think the dolphins could not tackle me. This is like grind thinking you could

complete a pass in the NFL. Oh, for sure. Definitely not. Just a screen. Just a little screen.

Right. And and given given the how many opportunities do I get?

Yeah, that was, I don't know, like, until you get hurt, like, to me, you're starting quarter

maybe, which you mean the question is just like, how long till you get hurt? Right. Maybe what

spare is given a series. I think I think you fumble like they call a run play to get you eased in

and you fumble that that hand off. That's your series. I think it's hard to play in the NFL.

I do agree with that. Yeah, that that part is true. But I think I can can complete a hand off.

And then I'll just do a little screen. One day Robinson to the Titans.

Interesting. Brian Dable couldn't get away. Yeah. I do like one day Robinson. He's fun.

He's a nice reserve receiver for me on my fantasy team, which all of his values probably just on now.

Yeah. Right. Could pick up Kendrick Lauren. He made a hot name as that last wide receiver spot.

All right. Now we're over time on our overtime. Yeah. So we are, this was a two hour show.

I know. I feel like I don't want to end either. You guys didn't even talk about the three

punter signings that came through in the first two hours. I didn't even mention them. Also,

the first fullback signing that came through. We did we did the chargers thing. But forgot to

mention, they did set like a record deal for a fullback with Alec Engold. Yeah. I can't believe it.

But I am surprised that people are this upset right now. Yeah. I so I was surprised at this point

last year. Because again, it was the same thing. We're all weekends like what the Broncos doing

anything. It's like, well, there's really nothing to do at this point. Like you're you're not doing

your resigning home free agents before free agency starts. But then at this point,

they was the real crash out because they also didn't do anything. So because I was surprised

last year. This happened when we got the first sniff of the whole meltdown a couple days ago.

I was like, Oh, yeah. This is this is what they did. This is what they're going to do.

Yeah. I would really enjoy Rashad White. I could talk myself into Brian Robinson.

We could doubt it. Oh, I'd be about if there was a running back that the Broncos could bring

home Austin Eccler famously very good in past protection. Famously. Famously. Yeah. Yeah.

I think I'm over Tyler Bade in that role. Yeah. Look up those clips and then a good receiver.

You know, Darren Sprouls will be at Bronco this year. He was a he's coaching for him. Oh,

that's cool. Yeah. There's an addition. Eccler, very Sprouls-esque. Right.

Right. Right. Well, okay. I have a bit of a stretch, but yeah.

All right. Man, it's got less excited than I hope. Miles Sanders, AJ Dylan,

ex-Alexander Madison. You know what I just heard? Zamiar White. I just heard Tyler Algear,

Tyler Algear, Tyler Algear. And the answer is still just like, man, I guess why not?

Well, I can go back to just thinking we should make a giant trade for a wider receiver one.

Man, hmm. Man. So they're making those calls.

And I don't know anything else. Cowboys. AJ Brown.

Plansy. Who were playing A&B? Justin Jefferson, George Pickens. Okay. So we're on to Plansy.

The AJ Brown. Yeah. I do think I think there's Ben Steen behind the whole

Jalen Waddle thing in the past, which is why this could be the moment where you circle back and

make the deal. Again, not my favorite receiver, but I do think if they make a trade for a receiver,

that's probably the one. Well, when it happens, when it happens, it's like if it happens,

but eventually they have to do something. Turn on the notifications, leave us a thumbs up.

Right. I think I'm my nearest to crash out. I can get to pretty disappointing crash out.

Well, yeah, it's like a more of a like a malaise probably. Yeah.

Yeah. I wish that I was in the mood to crash out. Yeah.

What is my birthday? Right. That's something. It's also good teams. They always sign their

players in the second week. That's where you find the bargain buys. That's where you find the

guys who can outperform the bargain contracts that they sign and then will become highly paid free

agents a year from now. Seahawks just won a Super Bowl. Yeah. As you probably remember. Yes.

They've lost Kobe Bryant and Kenneth Walker today. So last year, Sam Darnold obviously,

that was an early signing. Yeah. Yeah. Cooper Cup was a later signing, three years, 45 million.

The Marcus Lawrence. I would have to imagine fairly early, but you never know. Very late.

Really? Okay. Interesting. He was kind of like a street free agent. Okay. I don't remember it

specifically. And I mean, three years, 32 million. It's not like he's getting JFM money or anything.

Yeah. Drew Lockwood would have been late. Josh Jones late. Eric Sobert probably pretty late.

They're ever crate craft. Wow. They really loaded up on the former Broncos. That's kind of fun.

But no, I mean, they were other than getting the most expensive free agent free agent quarterback

on the market. They really weren't that splashy last year. And they won a Super Bowl. So there's

something. Yeah. You guys don't want to show the end of you. Not at all. We love this so much. We

don't have another show birthday, Ryan. Yeah. You're a birthday hostage. I wanted to go to legal

pizza, but that's probably legal pizza. I love legal pizza. Man, I love legal pizza. Well,

should we should we end then? Johan Dodson to the Falcons. Man, how could we end on that?

I'm not mad. No. Yeah. Okay. That's going to do it. We will have emergency shows if or when

the Broncos do something, um, be on the lookout. Got film rooms up on all the free agents. The Broncos

may or may not sign. So just the phone is not over yet, even if it feels like it ended. Never

became right. Oh, we have one more from Matt Dean. Appreciate you guys powering through Go Broncos.

Thank you, Matt Dean. Little legend, Mat Dean. They aren't going to sign nobody. Right. That'd be

crazy. And thank you to everyone who wish me a happy birthday. Yeah. Love you guys. Happy birthdays

in the chats. Wish we could give you a pigsby, but it was a lame day. See you guys in a little bit

hopefully. Maybe tomorrow. God bless both of next. God bless both of us.