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Fri. Sept. 4: Buffs rally to beat Georgia Tech | How many games can CU win this year? | Broncos roster transformation

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On a Friday episode of Hot Takes, Eric Goodman and Troy Renck recap the Colorado Buffaloes 14-13 win over Georgia Tech. Is CU better than we expected? Buffs played with some physicality and were able to run the ball, something they have struggled with the last couple seasons. After winning the season opener, how many wins can Colorado get to this season? Plus, a look at the Broncos incredible roster transformation and how Sean Payton and George Paton were able to pull it off. Tune in for a Friday edition of Hot Takes with Eric and Troy!


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Fri. Sept. 4: Buffs rally to beat Georgia Tech | How many games can CU win this year? | Broncos roster transformation

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This is Belie, one network, every topic, everywhere. And good morning, everybody. Welcome. Hot takes good and rank. We're going for the weekend. Troy. Layin' low. I'll be watching calls football, trying to, again, pace myself because once the NFL schedule starts, you're on the aircraft carrier for the rest of the seven months. So layin' low, what about you? Wow. Did you just go there? You're going to be stranded at sea for how many days? Not stranded, but. Yeah. And it's a long, it's a long job, man. You're talking through February, whether they're in it or not. And then the combine's March. I'm getting old. I've got to take some. I got to take my rest when I can get it. I can't go six, seven days a week out of season anymore. Okay. What about you?

I'm probably going to watch some football. Maybe now we're going to see a show tomorrow night. Like not really the symphony, but it's so if you've ever seen it, it's certainly advertised like the candlelight type of orchestra. Have you ever seen that before? Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be Abba and Queen to her favorite bands. I figured, hey, let's just head out there tomorrow night. So that is one of the... We saw Mama Mia a couple of years ago. We really wasn't for me, but it was really good. And we saw Queen the concert with Adam Landard at ballerina. That was fantastic. Yeah. That was amazing. Mandy took her parents there actually when they were in town from Scotland. So that was a great concert. And we saw the symphony, not the candlelight, but we saw the symphony. I want to say three years ago. It was good, man. I like all that stuff. We try to go to plays when we can just to get out of the house and do non sporting events.

Who knew that you were so cultured tri-ranked? You are far more than just a sports writer. I mean, it was started with the Shakespeare Festival in Boulder when I was in college. Right. Well, you were... Now go to Shakespeare Festival. It was fantastic. You try rank are a Metro sexual. I am not. What's that? I love it. I just... Oh, the hoodie that you're wearing right now would dispute the fact that you are a Metro sexual. I thought that if you like the theater and the symphony and the opera, you'd be a little bit better dressed. It was not a strength of mine. All right. Before we get the show going, I want to tell you about Smokin' Dave's barbecue and brew. The tailgate season is here. And listen, everybody loves to cook at a tailgate, but sometimes you just want to hang out with your friends, crack open a beer, and maybe have the food already done for you. If that is the case, Smokin' Dave's barbecue and brew is the spot for you. This is a great way to tailgate. They have something to call the big Kahuna Belly Buster.

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You know, again, any for the buffs on the road over the last two decades, they need not apologize. I mean, they've been one of the worst road teams in college football for 20 years. I mean, they make the Rockies look competent on the road. So did it was an ugly, yeah, it was ugly. But I think Eric, we saw some things that we've been critical of Deon Sanders for, which is they ran the football and they stopped the run. Those are two things they have not done at all in his first three years as a head coach. Now, the irony is then their quarterback played until the last four, you know, three minutes was beyond suspect. 10 to the catch. Yeah, sometimes it was drops. I got to give the kid this. But the for that last drive started. He's 10 for 21 for 64 yards. There's probably four drops. But so he would have been 14 for 24 for 90 yards. He still would have been under 100 yards passing. He made a couple of throws he had to make, including the touchdown pass to Williams. They need better from him. But I was most impressed by the fact they were more physical.

They just look better up front, O-line D line. It wasn't perfect. And George attack. They got the team move. Mendoza. Man, was he bad. And especially when he turned after he turned his ankle at the end of the first half, he was bad. Eric, I'm sorry. I know he's got your Indian at ties, but he heard. They have a national championship. If Haynes King plays that game, see you doesn't win. Just put it that way. Mendoza did not have it, but they stopped the run. I mean, give him credit. They stopped the run. And crazy thing is, typically on the road, even if you do those things well, run the football, stop the run. You can't overcome just special teams dumpster fire. And they had that. And they still won mainly because Georgia Tech every time. See you would do something bad on special teams. Georgia Tech was like, hold my beer. So, but it was a first game. It looked a lot like a first game. But Eric, you had to be impressed with the physicality from CU. They look like a real football team. Instead of all the sizzle with the wide receivers who could run all over the field, you know, during the Dion Sanders era, you just knew watching those some of those past teams.

They were all sizzle in very little stake. And to your point, doesn't matter if it's an ugly win or not, they wound up winning. But they looked like a football team that could block and tackle. And those were two basic fundamentals, besides scoring, obviously. And they just scored enough in order to win the game. Was this win bigger than the TCU win? I mean, I think it is for this reason because of the pressure on Dion. The irony, there wasn't a lot of pressure of the TCU game because no one expected him to win. And he was going to have a grace period. I mean, everyone was thrilled to have him there. The attention of the TV cameras, the eyeballs. Nobody expected to win this game. Yeah, but this game was a more winnable game than TCU. I don't know what the line was on the TCU game. I bet it was double digits. This was six and a half of memory serves. And we've said it. I've written it. The pressure is on Dion. You got to deliver a bull game. You can't make 10 and 23 million as a coach and not go to a bowl. And so when this you beat Weber State, you have a chance to beat Northwestern.

You suddenly are in the mix for a bowl. You lose this. You lose it Northwestern. Now the bull thing math becomes difficult. Right. Would you change your prediction on the buffs at all? Because most people felt, I don't know, three, four, five win team maybe after watching just one game. You think, okay, I can see this being a ball team or is it too way way way too early? I just got to see more from Lewis. I mean, it's just now again, I think I picked him to win five. So could I see him winning six now? Yeah, because I didn't have them winning this game. So based on my math on their schedule, I would be saying they could win six now because I had them winning five. So I'm not going to take that back. But now a couple of the games that win them with all at least give you a shot, at least give you a shot. I just I just like the fact that look competent, you know, upfront, you know, it wasn't great. But it just looked like after last year with Shermer, that was just so embarrassing and a misfit of a quarterback, because soldiers wasn't terrible.

I mean, he was here, but he wasn't terrible. It was just in the he was in the complete wrong system for his skill set. And at least like, I'm not saying this skill set fits Lewis with this offense, but at least they have two or three running backs and they have a line that actually blocks. Well, part of it is, again, I'd say this in defend lineman, when you pass 55 times a game, you can't be a physical team. And so to ask kids, oh, you got to be run, great at run blocking, but we're going to pass 50 times. Again, it just doesn't work. And so I like what I saw from the physicality standpoint. I need to see more from Lewis, because that was shaky. That was shaky. Now, and that wasn't, I think we're going to look or detect teams of both team. They don't look like a ball team right now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Now again, see you need not apologize for any road win. Any I just we might look up in five weeks and be like, yeah, it's not a great win, but who cares, but that you know, I Georgia Tech, my finish five and seventh.

Deon Sanders talked about the type of guys he wanted to recruit guys who were not death by inches guys, meaning that they may not be the most talented players out there, but they do all of the little things with character. And this was a character win. This is the type of win as ugly as it was that I think kind of mirrors what Deon was talking about during the off season, but all these guys coming in, don't you think? 100% I mean, I was only around on the one time down in fountain for Carson and again, I was at press conferences where Deon got asked about culture and he looked at it. What's culture? I don't even know what that means. What's culture? Well, this is what culture looks like you get a bunch of guys with chips on their shoulders with something to prove that played at lower levels or at, you know, D1 teams like San Jose State and they want to show improved to the world that they can play at that level.

Those kind of guys typically have more in it, you know, there's more investment emotionally like I want to show something and they're like minded so they start to get along a little better and when stuff goes awry, you don't see the finger pointing. You don't see like how many times have we watched Jordan seat and last year lining up as a tackle, pointing out things and yelling and like, come on now, like that's so eyewatching it's so lame. And this look like a guy's you like each other now again is one game, but I mean, I just feel like they're in a better position from that standpoint. This is the purpose and recruited that way to get guys like this and I like that idea, recruit potential guys with a chair over a bunch of guys who've been kicked off their teams who didn't play at bigger schools. This was like a George, because stands again, Georgia Tech was supposed to run the ball down Colorado's throat, complete opposite. Ju-ju Lewis was supposed to look like a five star quarterback. That didn't look that way at all either.

Colorado, they can't run the ball, complete opposite. I mean, it just felt like anybody who bet this game with what they thought going in was literally the complete opposite. Very rarely do I see something where predictions are so incredibly wrong. Well, we just it's so hard with the portal with 50 new players. I think CSU has 76 people ask how do you don't have a better feel? I mean, you just don't know they don't play if they play one exhibition game. We all said like hey, looks like they're going to try to run the football, but when you never. You just don't know, but they have a stable of backs that look decent, you know, the little guy 20 I interviewed him last year. I like him. You think he was from Incarnor word. This is second year Henderson from Sacramento State, but Michael Welch is a guy like I like Welch. He's a bowling ball. You can win with players like Michael Welch and you know the misdirection stuff, the counter stuff.

It opens up play action. I mean, here's the deal. If Lewis is on his game at all, they win that game. What 27 to 10 27. I mean, he missed two wide open touchdowns because once you run the ball in college, those guys will bite. Two guys, one specific learning the game wide open touchdown. It'll be like a 60 yard touchdown. But again, he's a young player. We'll see. We'll see what it looks like. I just I like the fact that there was physicality. Now I didn't love the fact after the game. The OCs celebrating in the locker room like he's a. Pointing, you know, wrapping and pointing to his necklace. I'm like I get how players like that. I really do. You believe in now. You believe in now. Can we just can we just lay low. Yeah. Just lay low for a little bit. You know, this is what you do this like you every time you win a game like this, like it's the Super Bowl. Just stay humble for a little bit. Let's let's put together two or three weeks of it. You know, I'm not saying be happy behind the scenes. Do we have to put everything out on social media when you win one game.

But that's a nitpick thing. That's more of my generation than the younger generation. I get it. I just like stay humble. Stay humble for a little bit before we start celebrating these wins. This wasn't Georgia. It was Georgia Tech with the wrong man. Doze. So let's just keep it cool. Great win. Let's keep our head down and roll up our sleeves. Say that one more time about the offensive coordinator to go, go guy. What do you do? He was celebrating on on social media. So with that, that's exactly what Dion Sanders did after the CCU game. And it's like Dion after that TCU game. That was a big turn off to me following that opening win in his opening game. We're doing a victory lap and grant it was a win in a game. But the victory lap was much louder than we just won this game. It was we are for real. We are here. We are here to stay.

And to me, when I looked at that, I'm thinking, dude, please, please, please, this will somehow bite you in the ass. And Joe, by the way, for the offensive coordinator, your go-go offense was the furthest thing from it. Yeah, well, that's my point. It was like, listen, it's a great win. But you're the offensive coordinator when your passing attack was feeble. Yeah. And you ran well. You ran well. But I mean, let's again, it wasn't like you went one 30 to 10 and have offense. Like, but again, that's more of my generation. I just like keep our head down before we haven't done anything. You know what I mean? Like, it's just let's keep our head down, keep working. And then week six, week seven, when you start beating, you knock off Jack, Texas Tech, you knock off one of these other, okay. Now we start feeling ourselves. But let's just, but I get it. They're so sensitive to any criticism. The first time they went a game, they want to, you know, jump back and just just relax, just relax.

Let's, let's take this for what, but again, credit to see you. Any road one for this program is a big road is a big win. And now it gives them much more of a realistic chance to reaching a bowl, which is crazy because there's one game. But again, you lose that game. You lose it Northwestern. I don't know if you can make a ball. Now every all of sudden three and no looks possible in the non conference. Then a ball becomes much more realistic. I know it is baby steps and I get it, but it's really just making a bowl. Should anybody be spending $10, $11, $12 million on just making a bowl. I know they, I understand that they need to get better from last season. I get that. But I don't know when he came in, I think everyone was dreaming of top 25. I mean, I'm just trying to be realistic. I mean, they were so bad at the end of last year. They were not competitive. And, you know, they've had one winning season in three years. And that was with two of the best players in college football.

So I'm just saying that's for me, the floor is a ball game. But do you love to see seven or eight? Certainly. But the ball, the floor for me is a ball game. And I just don't want to get, you know, allow one game to suddenly say like, oh, yeah, they're eight. They're nine. And when they're going to contend for the big 12 title, that'd be a great story. Right. Let's start there. The floor is a bowl game. And now again, for me, that seems much more realistic than they did prior to the against Georgia Tech. Coming up after the break, maybe you do or don't know this, but the Denver Broncos last season made NFL history as the first team to do something. And hopefully for them, they do not repeat this history again. That's next. Ever wondered where city and county fleet vehicles go when they retire? Now's your chance to find out and score big. Imagine driving away with a great deal on a reliable vehicle. For over 45 years, roller auction has been the trusted source for government fleet vehicles and equipment.

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You're like they had I think they had two strip sacks all year. It just doesn't even make sense it'd be like view hit 40 home runs in 37 of them or solo you're like there's nobody on ever but what are we doing so. Yeah I mean I would you know I would have guessed John always teams a couple times we're in that conversation without looking up the stats in the 80s because he had so many fourth quarter comebacks but they never had I mean they had some really good past rushers but they never had the sack totals that this last two Broncos teams have had. I'll give you another oddity that is similar to this one in 2010 the chargers they had the number one offense in the league the number one defense in the league and and they were not a great team they totally missed the playoffs. Wouldn't you think how in the world you missed the playoffs having the number one offense and the number one defense. Did they lead in turnovers or something I can't even remember the 2010 charges. Their special teams was so bad it was historically bad they gave up multiple block ponds and kick up returns for touch.

There you go I was going to say there has to be either turnovers or yeah special teams dumpster fire. That can that can undermine an off that that is almost impossible though even just be wreck one and either those categories you think you make the playoffs let alone both. Well it's funny because when I was watching the CU game yesterday listen the offense wasn't. Great far from it right and the defense certainly played well enough but it was the special teams that almost blew the entire game. Until the very end very special teams play ironically won the game for them. How do you send out the punner as the lone captain. This and this is part of my issue with like covering college sports but. What you should do more stuff on see you would ever know be like okay Tuesday availability and the one guy that's talking at the podium is the punner like really but you send out the punner as your lone captain last night is see you. Pony shanks a 20 some yarder really. You've been practicing all off season and your first kick is you need a mulligan and then they the first kick off they filled eight yards deep in the end zone and run it out so he started their 12 yard line and then bootcarter who did play a fact.

This game he fields a punt and fair catches it at the three yard line like and then there was a miss field gold in there are block field gold in there like what are we doing is the lack of evil like to give you some pointers on your special teams in August practice like like we're screw it up fair catches were screw up kickoff return. If you gave up a kickoff return of a hundred yards like that reminded me of that game when vans Joseph coaches and the Patriots were like the first team since 1976 to like block upon block a kick and take a punt back for a touchdown like what are we doing like it's not high school like come on this is the kind of stuff if I haven't covered high school football for you know three. This kind of stuff you see at high school all the time the kicking game is literally a circus can't see it a D one like this in the special teams like Eric what are we doing I mean we talked a lot about the buffs having a new offensive coordinator and a new defensive coordinator maybe they should have had a new special teams coordinator oh wait a minute today have a special teams coordinator as far as I know they don't.

Huh is not interesting they need to get so they need to get somebody on that and so ever whoever's your backup tied in whatever you coach you have that as time you need to put him on that because it's going to cost them a game and frankly that would have been a shame. It should have cost them a game I know what happened at the end but that to me is where and I can't believe we're segwaying back in the box that is quintessential deon Sanders arrogance I know. I know more than everybody else in the room. The special teams. Yeah they need to tighten up you know that would have been a game with how well the defense played no matter how bad the tech offense was the defense plays outstanding that would have been a really that would have been a heart and a blender kind of lost like really dominate the entire game and not not give up a touchdown and lose that's what they're on the verge of doing right and that kicker for Georgia tech was 25 of 29. This is too field goals well this is one and have one blocked it that's to like he's halfway to last year's total but again give give bootcarter of you know we talk about you want chip on a shoulder guys the one high high profile guy they went out and got who did get kicked off a Tennessee.

Bootcarter that expectations last night he was the best player on the field getting back to the Broncos you know I can't remember it might have been DJ Jones or Roach one of those guys I think maybe Zach Allen said something like we think we can set an NFL record with sacks in the season which considering what they did last year you almost wonder how do they lead the league in sacks when they weren't able to really rush the passer in the fourth quarter because again that's where a lot of teams will feast because they were getting them on second down they lead the league in second down sacks that's their secret sauce that's not on obvious passing down it's a blitz on second down. They lead the league in second down sacks and I'll be surprised if they get to 60 this year for a couple reasons one no matter what you think of Jonathan Cooper he's a functional outside linebacker that's number one you lose John Franklin Myers so essentially you lose those two guys and I'm bullish on Malcolm Roach I am but I don't I think the way teams are going to attack them on second down and the loss of Cooper and Myers I think they're sack totals more like 52 this year than 62.

I don't think any reasonable person even outside the organization with certainly more than a few critics of the Broncos saying well there's not going to be that good bonix you know he's he's he's sealing you know he's not going to get any better Broncos depth is certainly probably one of the biggest strengths that they have can you make the case that considering where the Broncos were about two years ago that this might be one of the most remarkable roster transformations and NFL records. They're not going to be a lot of history considering they ate 85 million in deadcap over the course of two years and then all the draft capital that they lost for Sean Payton and Russell Wilson it really is I mean if you drill deep on this it's remarkable to think and now see what Peyton and Peyton were able to do. I'm going to get to the culture builder that Sean Payton is and I know people roll their eyes of this is a credit to George Payton's process he screwed up with Russell Wilson there's no doubt he screwed up with Russell Wilson and Randy Gregory those two and they have 99% of the GM's fire yeah new ownership comes in they need his help going through the process for interviews and to Peyton's credit he could have gone Dan Quinn that he that's his buddy he worked with them way back when it Miami

and he took his ego out of it said honestly for what we're trying to do the best guy for this jobs probably Sean Peyton and they learned to work together and I didn't think that would happen I thought that George Peyton would be one and done with Sean he'd bring in someone from New Orleans but they found this bond together Eric over how much they love watching film their film junkies like they're that guy it's like nerd and out of did you see that backup quarterback for Iowa State on third down and that December game oh I'm going to go watch it let's go compared it's like they sit and watch film and so they united over that and shared friendships in the league but it creates this perfect template for them Sean Peyton has baseline qualities he wants he wants guys that love football and he wants no one below a sea learner and so when you go out in your scouts you send them out there you have a very clear profile now of what a Bronco looks like and then you get them into the building I'm telling you I know people don't believe this I really get that when I talk to players they're like man we like each other we hang out we sit and talk football like bunch of these guys are coaches sons bunch of these guys were captains like I'm not saying boys cats I'm not saying that I'm just saying it's just like you put a whole bunch of nerdy people in a room that love math and they just start going to the chalkboard like this team has that feel I can't tell you how many times players have told me this reminds me of college we have a collegiate feel and that was very intentional

that wasn't by accident and the final thing I'll let you go on this is you have to develop even if you'd have to have coaches that then develop as you have a vision for a player and Sean Peyton to great about that first year special teams are back up second year contributing starter third year pro bowl like they had he has a vision for every player doesn't mean he's always right but it really helps map out how you identify players how you develop players and how you create cohesion in a locker room. It's funny because I think a lot of people would have said about Sean Peyton when he came here very difficult to work with can be completely abrasive in pick any situation he can be abrasive. With that when Ted Sunquist was the Broncos GM like 2000 to 2008 most new Mike Shanahan was the guy making the roster decisions in the draft and free agency and you can probably make the case that it is Sean having the final decision on most major decisions for sure I'm not saying he's you know the guy making the pick it in the sex round.

But what makes the relationship do you think between Peyton and Peyton different than Shanahan and Sunquist. I get I didn't know Ted I mad him for me the reason the Peyton Peyton thing works is Sean is a is Mount Vaughan you know is Mount Peyton skewing lava and George Peyton is commas a lagoon and George doesn't need credit for anything. He is the most humble general manager I've ever covered in sports and I just think it looked like and I was it's from afar because I was covered in the middle of a rocktober and covering baseball. It looked like Mike stepped on Ted more where George where Sean has developed a true respect of a partnership. I never felt that with Mike I don't think most people could tell you outside of Denver that Ted was the general manager. I mean maybe they could I just felt like with Mike it was so overwhelming that he was in charge of every.

Sometimes when doing that you say your respect your coworker you respect him but your actions don't totally show it Peyton and Peyton respect each other's opinions because they both grind. I don't know why Mike didn't respect Ted's I don't know maybe it's a lot of it is ego with head coaches they just if I'm going to go down that's going to be with my guy you know you know how it is they just can't. I think with with my shanahead everybody knew he was the boss. Yeah yeah 100% he was the CEO he he was the ring that you had to kiss and even though you can make the case Sean Peyton it's not that you have to kiss his ring you know he's the boss but he blends in better. There isn't like you know the lord of the man or the surfs down here correct it's not it's not as much like that today as it was back then where it really was the Mike Shanahan show and then everybody was like snow white in the seven dwarfs everybody was a dwarf around.

Well I'll tell you why it works I'm glad you brought to stuff now that we think about it more in talk out loud. The reason now you know flushing it out the reason it works is George Peyton reports independently to Greg Penner and Sean Peyton reports independently the Greg Penner so Sean Peyton is not George Peyton's boss whereas the dynamic you describe it certainly felt like Mike Shanahan was Ted's boss. And Sean isn't George's boss now you can argue he has power that's you know a little uncommon for today's head coach but I'm telling you Sean doesn't have the power Mike Shanahan in that building. Greg is at the top of the food chain now that wasn't necessarily the case when this started in 2022 when they owned the team first now that pyramid works and they report to Greg and Greg has kind of he helped facilitate and make that relationship work. So I think that's probably why too because Sean can't just. And allow literally we're doing this this and this he's got to run stuff through Greg and then Greg communicates to to George but again I think for me the key how it all works I think that structure helps tremendously is George doesn't have an ego.

George doesn't allow his ego to get in the way and it's more like he's he saw right away hey being this guy Sean we think very similar and how we want to do the draft how we want to build the team so they're not like you know Calvin booth and Mike the war over philosophically how to build a winning team those two are in lockstep in my opinion and talking to a boat. Well make no mistake about it the reason why Ted Sunquist got fired is because of Mike Shanahan. Right that's what I'm saying yeah and I don't know that I mean obviously there's something weird have Sean has power to see how power like he could walk up the office and get George fire I don't know that I don't know that I mean if you told me who's going to be here longer George Paten or asked me today I would say George paid. Yeah because I wanted to address that as well who do you think will be here longer. Yeah I think it's George I think so part of it's the age of Sean like how many years does he want to be in the grind I think I think George could probably do this job I don't even know how old he is what's he is 50's yeah really 50's yeah he can do this for another 20 years easy I don't know Sean if Sean coaches another you know 15 20 years he's going to be one of the oldest coaches in NFL history right I see him doing it until he's 75 I mean I think he's got 30 years.

Five years in him like I mean he I do believe he'll be there when the stadium opens in 2000 was that 31 after that I'm not sure. Well here's the funny thing that you say that because wouldn't you think he would call an Andy Reed and stay around as long as Patrick Mahomes is still a great quarterback. Yeah it's so hard to find a quarterback that if Sean Payton really believes Bo Nix is the guy and he proves to be the guy. I don't mean really good I mean great quarterback if Bo Nix turns into that guy I think the day the Bo Nix walks out the door is the day that Sean Payton walks out the door. Yeah I don't know I mean because again Bo could play geez you know 10 12 more years I don't know that Sean coaches that much longer you might you might to your point I mean if you have a quarterback every year you feel like you got a shot right no one thought Andy Reed would still be coaching at this 70's yeah I thought he was going to retire.

After one of those super balls just call it good. And the reason normally I'd say I don't think it was Sean but because he's already retired once and he just was basically he finds out like a lot of people when you don't have much of hobbies how many rounds of golf can I play and they get bored they miss it I mean he's a I mean the real at the end of the day Sean is a football guy and they don't have a lot else in their life other he watches like Netflix or the bear you know a couple of movie here and there but for the first time he doesn't watch the home channel like that I don't make some positive people Vic I love I love Vic because I wish I knew him better but Vic was such an interesting cat but yeah you could just see him in December of that a must-wain game him cuddle up in his bed watching Eaton pasta watching summers love on the home I think what we do is Christmas in July on the home market yeah Christmas in July those movies are more predictable than Scooby-Doo in case you're wondering if you're married if you're married you've seen those I might

what I don't mind I mean listen I watch sports all the time so I can't tell you can't watch that because I for the most part get to watch pretty much every sport you've been I want to watch so I'm not going to cry over a home mark show once but they are they are hard they're a hard watch there are white is a huge fan huge fan of the home market channel and this is how I would describe the home market channel it is an adult film but everybody keeps their clothes on and that's why I say it's the same story it's the same actors and actresses as well except they don't get naked that's the only difference really for me and Scooby-Doo all the same actors just rotating just we're going to this movie go to this movie that that's what the home market channel is it's just not having sex they're kissing which is cute they're all going back to their hometown for some event some fair some bakeoff right some fundraiser because they but the life in the big city and they don't they're never

homing up and then they see their old boyfriend or girlfriend I mean it's literally like ad live tv but listen I will say that you put a tractor people makes it if you make it easy on the eyes that helps well actually actually if you watch enough home mark channel and I'm not saying that I do but it's on in the house enough they actually made an effort I sort of got home mark made an effort to have on actors and actresses who aren't as good looking there are a lot I'm serious this was done my my understanding is it was almost done intentionally because with these home mark movies let's face it everybody doesn't look like that the great looking guy and the great looking guy but they use the same stable of 10 people no no there are there are the girl from wonder years is on there because I recognize sir I'm like why do I know that girl the girl from wonder years there are more than a few home mark movies that has the guy who's maybe a little bit overweight and no

no telling you telling you I haven't seen that then you're you are not watching enough home mark channel maybe that's a compliment that's a compliment maybe the girl isn't as good looking as you would think they I mean it's like the same four guys who are the lead actor it feels like to me okay you're gonna be home all weekend not watching homework you'll see exactly what I'm talking about I'll be watching cause football no football home or channel watching pro pro players play for LSU that's gonna do it for us I'd take good minute rank making the best possible weekend you can if you like the show please take a moment to rate review and subscribe it really does help the show

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