From Listeners to Advocates: The Magic of True Fans

Have you ever wondered if the reason your podcast hasn’t “exploded” is actually the very thing that could help it last—and make it more rewarding? This week, I look into why having a smaller, passionate, and loyal audience often leads to more meaningful wins (personally and professionally) than simply racking up big download numbers.

If you want to learn how to create enduring engagement, avoid common pitfalls, and connect with listeners in a way that actually matters, this episode is for you.

Here’s what I cover in this week’s “Podcast Stew” styled episode (which includes chapters).

1000 True Fans

• Why a “thousand true fans” might just be your biggest business advantage (and how focusing on your core audience beats chasing the casual crowd).
• Lessons from YouTube experts (Rocks Codes, Stephen Bartlett, Mr. Beast, Marques Brownlee) on where to put your energy if you want to succeed, and the role thumbnails, titles, and discovery play in growth
• My thoughts on competing with “the big guys” - what you should (and shouldn’t) compare against, and why joy matters
• Independent vs. networked podcasting: Candid stories from the Young and Profiting team, the Midas Touch podcast, and why control is crucial
• The truth about monetization—when is the right time (and why “3% conversion” is the real number to expect)
• Behind the curtain of podcast business stats: Lessons from Goal Hanger, ad revenue, and memberships
• Platform realities: Spotify’s “walled garden,” why I recommend “anybody but Spotify” for hosting, and insights from James Cridland at Podnews
• The importance of fun and fulfillment: advice from LeBron James and Charlie Puth on why loving the work is the true engine for longevity
• How to effectively use calls-to-action: Taking lessons from an Audible ad in “Project Hail Mary” and why going “deeper” with your fans matters

Links mentioned this week:

School of Podcasting

Podpage

Podnews Report Card

How to Pitch a Podcast Show (Coming Soon!).

Creators Hub in Spotify

Apple Podcasts Hub

Whether you’re launching, growing, or just rethinking your show’s direction, this episode is packed with honest stories and actionable advice, plus a dash of inspiration to help you stay true to your voice and audience. As always, if you want to go deeper, join the free School of Podcasting

Thanks for listening! Don’t forget to share with a friend who needs a reminder that influence starts with true connection.

Mentioned in This Show

Oxford Road The Media Roundtable Episode

Sound Off Podcast (Matt Cundill interviews Doug Downs)

Why MKBHD Told Netflix: "Don't Bother on Jon Youshaei channel

What Podcasting Can Learn From YouTube Growth with Rox Codes (Podbiz with Norma Jean Belenky)

Lisa Kudrow on Vanity Fair Channel

Sounds Profitable The Download

James Cridland on Spotify's Features "Coming Soon."

Jordan Harbinger Talks YouTube on New Media Show with Rob Greenlee

Charlie Puth on Rick Beato Channel

Project Hail Mary Trailer

Big Lash Energy Interview

Audible (aff link)

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