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candidate twice and it was very likely that he did not have a political future and Trump

allows Tulsi to bring him in and he's like the number two, number three people in the director

of national intelligence. And then he knows that she's vulnerable because people have suggested

that her lectures about forever wars put her at odds with it. So you think to be sober and judicious,

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he would write a very nice letter and say I'm in opposition and leave, but he didn't do that.

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Victor, beloved. That was very nice. I had a just off topic. I had a kind of a bad

week because I'm trying to develop my lung, re-develop it, losing the lobe. Then I had all that

lost half my blood volume and all the second surgery to find the bleed and all that. You

don't want to press your heart, but I had been walking about 10,000 steps for three days at

heart rate, about 75 to 80, and then all of a sudden out of the blue, whatever I did, I mean,

I'm going to get up to get a drink of water, 100, get dizzy, really, I'm dizzy, but more dizzy,

and then anytime I walk, 95 immediately. So I wrote this, I wrote my doctor, and he said two

things that I kind of sloughed off. He said, well, you were on this beta blocker, and then you got

off, and you've been on a long time. So your heart is overcompensating. I said, well, I

wound him back and said, well, the first three days, I felt great. He said, it's called the rebound

effect. So if you press a heart rate, and when sometimes, you know, you would get in the 60s when

you were walking with it, but it felt very artificial. And then he said something very astute. He

said, once the good esthetic part, you know, you're, you're ecstatic getting off it and through

then the rebound, not last either a week to three weeks even, and that'll mean your heart will be

at 10 to 15 to 20 beats higher. And then he said, you lost half of your volume. It's been hot.

I bet you're dehydrated, and I've never been dehydrated in my life. So I went to get a blood

draw for a test. And the woman said, you have no veins. I said, I have the best veins, I have

vampire veins. And she said, she said, no, I can't even get blood out with a pediatric needle.

So you've got to drink some water. I said, why? She said, because you're severely dehydrated.

And I started drinking 16 ounces. Then it kind of oozed out. So the four days ago, I thought, wow,

it's now been seven or eight days since I was off the drug. Maybe he was right. And the rebound

effect will fade. And maybe I've been chugging water, right? Yeah. And the last three days,

I've walked 80, 500 steps in the heart rate studies 73 to 80. So I'm just very, that's a wonderful

doctor to be able to remind me of that. Well, your post stop has sort of been the phrase, two steps

forward in one battle. It has been, some days I get up and I feel, you know, the worst thing about

it is, it's very humiliating. I was always, you know, I was always very physical. I don't mean

necessarily particular, but I always did things like fix sprinklers. I climb up in the barn and fix

a rafter or I, you know, spray weeds. I did it all the time. And I'm like an invalid because

these the weeks whenever I kind of forget, oh, there's a sprinkler broken water shooting out. I

get on my knees. And the next thing I know, and I look at my watch and it was 105, you know,

and then I wouldn't sleep. I hadn't slept more than two or three hours. And then

it's very, I can't drive. I tried to drive around the yard and all of a sudden, I thought,

oh, I don't want to be on those people you read about the older man, elderly gentleman 72 ran

over a pedestrian. So it is very humiliating, but I'm trying to do all the rehab, you know,

the spider meter and walk. And all of this is a side show because the real question is,

is this thing going to come back or not? So I'm also now scheduled for my next blood biopsy and CT.

So gotta stay upbeat. People have been very nice right now. All these wonderful stories and

letters. I just, yeah, no, I was at mass before the prayer breakfast the day before a couple

of people stopped me there. I mean, they were praying for you right then and there. So it's

it helps. It's a beautiful thing for people to not all about you. I think this has other

impact on in influencing people's religiosity and the belief that prayer is meaningful.

It does. It doesn't matter. It is. So Victor, I think we'll get started today by getting your

thoughts on an important essay that's come out in the spectator by Chris call, well, it's titled

The End of Trumpism and we'll get to that when we come back from these important messages.

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So here's what Chris Calwell, who's so Chris is a senior fellow at the Claremont Institute.

He used to be one of the most SAS for the weekly standard back in its heydays terrific guy.

But he's written somewhat a controversial essay and it's titled The End of Trumpism. And for

the guy who has written the case for Trump and the forthcoming book, the subtitle, I think,

The Fallen Rise of Trump, who better than you to reflect on this. But here's what Chris wrote

and bear with me folks. Trump has, and you start about a ran off the bat. Trump has escaped other

predicaments of his own making. But there is something different about this one. The attack

in Iran is so wildly inconsistent with the wishes of his own base, so diametrically opposed to

their reading of the national interest that it is likely to mark the end of Trumpism as a project.

Those with claims to speak for Trumpism, Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, have reacted

to the invasion with incredulity. Trump may entertain himself with the presidency for the next three

years, barring impeachment, but the mutual respect between him and his movement has been ruptured

and his revolution is essentially over. He goes on at great length to say, to be increasingly

critical. It matters. Chris Colwell says in the public square, Victor, what are your thoughts

on this? Well, as somebody who, you know, I've written for about 50 years, it is very, very hazardous

to offer a prognosis in what we say in Latin, in medias rabos, right in the middle of things.

So what do I mean by that? Let's just say that the regime in Iran really is exhausted and they

have scattered around certain emergency silos, three missiles here, 10 drones there that would be

impossible to get them all. And they're letting them off to show everybody that they can take this blow.

But I don't know why they did it. They have convinced the NATO partners of two things.

That they are trying to shut down the straight-of-her moves that our allies need. They've convinced them

that if you let this regime do this, they'll do it again and they will control it. And they've

sent an inner range intermediate ballistic missile to Diego Garcia, which is beyond the range of

which they said their missiles were capable of, 20, 600 miles. They said, oh, we don't have anything

you take a map of Europe and you put concentric circles and you'll see that most of the European

capitals are now in range of those. So that kind of shocked them. So what I'm getting at is I think

Christopher doesn't see that we're in a very fluid volatile point where I ask myself

abroad strategically, I say, and then I'll get to the domestic very quickly, but I'll say,

are the Gulf monarchies that beg this not to do it, that triangulate with us, that pay around

off so they will be safe, play them, they pay them the dangled, and then they secretly fund

Hamas or some of them fund Houthis in Hezbollah. Are they now angry? No, they're more on board

than ever because basically they said if Trump leaves this regime intact and he leaves,

we are going to be vassal states of Iran. We already were in a sense, but now it's it's over.

They have the ability to ruin our tourist industry, our oil industry, and they're crazy.

So what I'm getting now is the world at large has not abandoned the United States like the left

has in part of the right place. And we don't know where we are right now because the command and

control has been wiped out. There's other people that will step up. We don't know if they're capable,

we don't know, we don't know what the Iranian people are going to do. We don't know to what

degree the Israelis are going to direct all their attention to attacking the revolutionary guard,

and they've been doing that with drones. When you when you send in tactical aircraft like

a patches and warthogs, then you have to have not air superiority. You have to have air supremacy

because those are low flying targets. And some guy can take pot shots and get a lucky shot and

shoot somebody in the windshield. That can still happen. But it shows you that if they're flying

freely over the Gulf and along the coast, then they they're pretty secure that there's not going

to be a great deal of danger because there's not a lot of resistance left. So these things can be,

nobody predicted the Berlin Wall would fall. He said it would not happen for years. Other people

predicted tenement, tenement square would lead almost immediately to a so the end of this,

just like the end of the Soviet Union, the end of the it didn't happen. So we don't know what's

going to happen. But it's very volatile. But let's just say if it did happen, Cuba, the Cuban

government would probably and I'm not going to you know, prognosticate after warning about it,

but there'd be a good chance it would lose control gradually. If they see what happened in Iran,

and Venezuela would not want to rebel or go revert back to the Chavez Maduro regime. So everything

is in play right now, but if it should happen that Iran has regime change, then you look at a

present, you say, what were the three biggest worries outside of China? I shouldn't say outside,

that the United States presence of hat one was a nuclear Iran and a trouble making subsidizing

terrorist Iran, which we don't want to touch because we thought they were invincible,

to the slow leftist takeover of South and Latin American with these left wing governments that

the Chinese as they had been doing with the radians and North, they're they're propping up.

And the use of Cuban mercenaries, bodyguards and ideological missionaries all over the western

hemisphere. And who is the beneficiary of that China? And for us to take out the Chinese pipeline,

I'm being metaphorically, but the access to Venezuela and maybe Iran, you could see as one scenario

in three weeks, it collapsed Iran, a revolution in Cuba, six weeks, who knows? And Donald Trump would

not have failed, he would be the greatest president in the last, I don't know, 50 years, 80 years.

I think Chris knows that should be aware of that domestically, for what he said to be true,

if you were going to be completely analytical, you wouldn't cite Joe Rogan, Megan Kelly,

Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens, even though they have a lot of clicks, you would look at polls,

and you would say, what does an anti-Trump poll say on CNN? What does an anti-Harvard, and you look

at them? And the mega base is much higher than people who poll that they're just straight Republicans.

They're straight Republicans that say, I'm not a big Trump supporter, about 60 to 70%.

The mega people's one poll had them 100%, 100 to 98%. So for his article to be convincing,

you would have to have demonstrable truth that there is a widespread, not just on ease,

everybody has on ease, but I'm saying it translates into actual defection, and I haven't seen that,

and the polls don't indicate it. And the other practical question, so you're a Trump person,

and you didn't want to have forever wars, and you see that Joe Kent resigned, and you say,

well, who are the other people that are avatars of no forever wars in the mega bill, JD Vance?

He just came out and said, Trump had no choice. He had to do it. Tulsi Gabbard.

She just asked for a vote of confidence from Trump, and she got one. Bobby Kennedy, he's been mom,

so there's nobody fault Joe Kent out the door. So even a good example is right in the crucible

of January 6th, Betty DeVos, remember that resigned, and Elaine Chao resigned, and what did the people

say? Oh, there's going to be a mass accident of all of his cabinet officials, so they don't go down

with a ship. That was it. And then I'm just quoting from this manuscript that's now in Galley proof,

I thought when I looked at the evidence that Donald Trump, his fall would have lasted a lot longer,

it only lasted about a year. Yes, all of his rivals were outpulling him in early 2021.

But once the indictments came and the mug shots, he was rebounding very quickly, and there's nobody

that had a better record of governance that Ron DeSantis. He was the perfect mega. He was the

mega agenda without the hysterics and the fireworks that Trump can often display. And he pulled out

after the first primary. So what I'm getting out is all of these epithets and post mortems for

Trump have always been wrong. And he's taken a really, really, really big gamble before the midterms,

but the midterms are April, May, June, July, August, September, October, they're over seven,

seven and a half months from now. If you get the straights open, you'll have a flood of oil

and the price will collapse, just like it has done before after embargo. So I'm not saying this

is going to happen. I don't know, but I'm just suggesting it's a very perilous to predict the end

of Donald Trump and his mega movement. Yeah. Let me, I want to follow up the first,

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Victor Davis Hanson in his own words. Victor, my follow up is about that word trumpism. And I don't

know what it means. It gets pretty variable. But I think one thing that we've seen in the last week

of people have corralled these old trump video clips that go back even 40 years. One thing Donald

Trump has always been consistent on is the need to address the threat to Iran. So if Trumpism does not

have Donald Trump of all people being responsive to an immediate threat from Iran or looming threat.

I don't know what trumpism means. He even said he would take car guy when no one knew what car

island was. Yeah. And the thing is there's a lot of things that trump can do. If you take car

island and whether that means you put a protective airspace around it or a blockade. So you don't

have to actually put Marines because the whole island is probably now by now booby trapped and

subterranean tunnels. And you you'd be in a Gaza-like situation maybe. Who knows.

But if you just blockade it by air and sea and you say you're not going to get any oil out.

And that might spike the world. But they wouldn't have any income and they're already freezing their

assets. So if you're an Iranian and you're how do you get paid? How do you have any money? Look at Cuba.

So this is 93 million people and they can be easily boycotted and bargoed etc. And we haven't

really done all of that yet. And at some point we'll see it. There's as I said before there's

a rock and a hard place. And I don't know where the greater laxity is. But they think they can

wait trump out with rope adult. And that because when they cause havoc they are going to get pressure

from the Gulf monarchies on trump from NATO on trump from his base on trump and the U.S.

economy on trump and he'll cry uncle and then they will be free. The Chinese and North Koreans

and the Russians will come in. We arm them. And in two or three years the first thing they will do

is try to get a nuclear weapon with the fishable material they probably still have hidden.

And now we know they can hit Europe with it and they will threaten Europe and they will

threaten Israel etc etc. And the next time you have to go in it will be very different. Much more

difficult. So why you have air supremacy you should finish the job where you support the original

incursion or not. I mean it's not everybody said this is our this is that I heard one of the

stupidest things somebody was I was watching it was CNN or something they said.

I'll be it now. Yeah but they said this is Putin's this is Donald Trump's Ukraine. I said my

God man there's two million casualties probably a million point three dead on both sides. We've lost

tragically 13 soldiers. Come on. Russia's lost a million people. It's lost a city the size of

you know greater San Francisco out gone kaput. And Donald Trump we have we've never done this before

tried to fight an entire war we did in the Balkans but even there I mean people were calling I

think after week two for Clinton to quit and they said you can't do this you can't we move you

can't do this you can't do this and they did and when you try to go on a little bit and off a

little bit you get eight months of bombing Libya and Qaddafi and remember Qaddafi was in a reform

mood after 2003 invasion of Iraq he was opening the country up I went there right and I can tell

you they had cell phones for the first time and people were ecstatic that the kids were taking over

they were opening the Italian archaeological sites I spoke there at them Subratha for example

leptus magna it was a very exciting time and then we go in a few years later and bomb them

and we had no strategy and we just that was Hillary Hillary Clinton Samantha Power and

the Locuesa Susan Rises and I'm telling morning everybody that she's going to take retaliation

with the Democrats come back Pritzker did that too today and let's put it here is a

we have reprehensible character he really is you know well let's talk about Joe Kett first

though I do want to get it get it something we talked about the last time this is not a this is

a non-secretary the devil what color is the devil you race it yes you find out yeah well I love

our listeners and viewers and I'm just to say Jim B sent me a a near treatise email on the

colors of the devil from it's what I like about our listeners is like having an instant cycle

oh yeah the devil is all colors I remembered correctly he's a multicolored devil he's

multicolored blue mostly black red some green some blue and the green I remembered from

he's a million like or that and the inter isn't there a is there a reason like why is he

when he's green what does that signify what he's blue what does that signify I see there's a word

ancient Greece porcolos that means month multicolored well I don't know how you know how certain

fabrics can yeah radiate colors he's not green though huh he said he was green yeah no my point is

I do remember him being green at shot true there's just the most beautiful stained glass

yeah I've been yeah yeah yeah and and indeed he is green there I thought maybe was I remembering

right but he I thought he looked like a grouper with horns you know like the green frog

peppy they're frog well maybe they'll be on Tucker's show then sometimes anyway

Joe Kent Joe Kent so he was on speaking of Tucker he was on the show and let me trouble our readers

just to give some indication of I don't know is this a conspiracy or what so some I'm reading this

from MA Rothman who posts this on X Joe Kent goes on Tucker Carlson within minutes not hours minutes

the same clip same caption same outrage floods hundreds of accounts simultaneously labs tracked

every amplification event in real time and the data is damning so there was a trigger quote the

Israelis drove the decision this is Joe Kent saying this that was clipped and posted across hundreds

of accounts almost simultaneously not after it trended during the broadcast real breaking news

takes time to spread organically this had a running start who amplified it look at the coalition

Russian TV Iranian state media Hamas aligned CUDS news network Turkish state broadcasters

Sputnik Brazil and simultaneously can a someone's Marjorie Taylor green others so anyway Victor this

stuff doesn't happen naturally kind of coordinated I don't know who coordinated or not but Joe Kent

is increasingly seeming like a troubling figure but yeah it's a tragic figure because

he was what 11 deployments into combat zones in Iraq and Afghanistan I think his wife was a CIA

operative and tragically killed his first wife he served honorably I remember his campaign well I

think he was running for a Washington representative congressional seat in state of Washington I might

have misspoke last time in said Oregon but he was very close he I mean my gosh it was it was a very

the first time he ran he he lost by I think less than a percentage and all of the mega people

endorsed him Trump endorsed him and he he got very close but the second one was not as quite

as I remember as the first I know these encyclopedia listeners will correct me but my point is this that

he owed a lot to the Trump administration because he had been a defeated congressional candidate twice

and it was very likely that he did not have a political future and Trump

allows Tulsi to bring him in and he's like the number two number three people

and the director of national intelligence and then he knows that she's vulnerable because people

have suggested that her lectures about forever wars put her at odds with this so you think

to be sober and judicious he would just go to the meetings and he would try to follow the

directives of the elected president and if he could not do that he would write a very nice letter

and say I'm in opposition and leave but he didn't do that he wrote and said not only did he feel that

the mega movement or the Trump movement was not being followed but it was following Israel at the

dictates of Israel so I bought right into the Jews the Jews did it and when at that moment then the

whole new world opened up for him and he thinks that's quite a big world on the right it isn't as

I suggested with the earlier polls that show Trump has overwhelming support for Iraq but then

magically he goes on as you said all of these shows and what he says about Israel becomes the

main topic in other words had he not said that about Israel he may or may not have been on

Candace and Tucker and all the rest but once he said that he was insured to be on there

then there's a second troubling aspect Jack and that is I don't know if this is

narratives put out by the administration that have not been verified so I don't want to suggest that

they're actually verified accurate proven but there are narratives now in the meeting that he

was a source of leaking and that there was pressure on upon him and that he was probably going to

resign and he preempted that resignation by making a statement of conscious against Trump and

Israel and that opened up another avenue had he not done that in other words had he done what I

said earlier and just resigned and thank Trump for all of the support they probably would not

have leaked that story that he was an object of an investigation for leaking but you get the

impression that at least some people believe that he got when that he was outgoing out the door

so he preempted by resigning with this sensational charge that Israel was controlling the Trump

administration and Trump had betrayed the MAGA movement and that opened an escape hatch into a very

lucrative pod he I think he's going to start a podcast to podcasting hard right and you know this is

this is very familiar or World War II I mean when we after Pearl Harbor there was a great

a great for three days there was a great debate and that was whether we were going to clerk or

in Germany I think the historical evidence suggests we were not we're going to be Japan first

and there was a big argument do not get drawn in as Churchill tried it we've already given him

Linlies he's trying to draw us in let's just concentrate on the people who attacked us and then

of course three days later Germany declared war on us for a lot of reasons that don't make

sense to this day but it was the same idea that Roosevelt and the United States were being controlled

by the British and they didn't realize it was in the US interest to destroy Imperial Japan but

especially Nazi Germany was in our interest despite what Darrell Cooper and some of the people

that have been on Tucker show say yes but don't Trump Trump is not being controlled by Net Yahu

and if you think he is then ask yourself who blew up all these Americans over the last 47 years

you know they use this term a parent I was listening to this guy Jeremy Raskin Adam Schiff

there was no apparent threat there was no apparent threat but there was no apparent threat we had

all these DNC talking a point yeah can they tell me when there was an apparent threat of anything they

have killed or anything they've done to us oh they blew up the American the 241 green peacekeeper

but there was no apparent threat oh they blew up the embassy in baby oh but there was no apparent

threat oh they helped blow up the embassies in Tanzania and Kenya oh but there was no apparent

threat oh some of the operatives may have had help from around that tried to blow up the USS

call but there was no apparent threat oh they tried to kill Trump Mike Pompeo John Bolton

ambassador hook but there was no apparent threat when has there ever been an apparent threat

with these people every time they do it they're a little bit different they always use sir oh they

killed 600 maybe 2000 some of the military Americans with shaped charges and but there was no

apparent threat they were doing that so how can we respond and that's what they they always had

deniability of culpability they knew exactly what was going on on October 7th they greenlighted it

they knew that was part of their ring of fire strategy and they thought it was going to work

and no apparent threat what what if what if a US Navy plane had spotted the Japanese fleet on

December 4th yes you could the same thing could apply well they're just floating out there that's

not a Aaron threat they had radio silence yeah what if they had just flown over and somebody said

I think you should take them out they're on their way to Pearl Harbor there's no reason but there

was no apparent threat yeah and so that's how they operate and now we know that they have a strategic

plan should they be an extremist or if they want to stop the West and one of them is to take

control over this great of hormones the second one is to destroy the oil or intimidate the petrol

kingdoms who supply 45% of the world's oil into submission and the third is to launch test

rockets that can reach now we know all of the European Western European major capital

and that's what they've shown us so if you weren't if you if you wanted them to get out now then

you're going to try you're going to have to say to yourself well there's no apparent threat

even though I didn't know that they could reach Diego Garcia and there before most of Europeans

greatest cities oh there was no apparent threat but I guess they kind of had a plan all along to

control the straight of hormones oh there was no apparent threat but I guess they went and

rearmed Hezbollah and I've been working to reestablish its command and control but there was

no apparent threat so it's the regime it's who they are it's they walk like a duck they talk like

a duck they are a duck and that's who they are they get up every morning thinking I want to

destroy Israel then the United States and then Western Europe and they go to bed every night thinking

I didn't do enough today to do that that's how they think yeah because if they die in the process

they think they get 71 virgins so they say they say that they hate the West and then they

you know they go for impotence treatment to the West they say that they hate the West and then

one of their daughters is a professor at Emory University for a while they hate the West and

the coming a family has condos everywhere or apartments and London so they say they say they say

but they hate the West like a moth hates a light bulb you know what I mean yeah right well

we're gonna talk about Ian musk in a second but first Victor this year marks a critical moment for

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sponsoring victory Davis Hanson in his own words i apologize if you hear my dog in the background

but the part of the allure victor of our show is that we have seven dogs but they've all they've

all fallen to cancer that spotty had uh they're all Queensland's yeah one of them had something

wrong and she got frightened and ran out and wrote and got killed but yeah greasy but sport

diet of cancer spike is still alive spotty diet of cancer sorry and i don't know if it's kind of

worried about that because we live in this farm and we were bathing chemicals as kids and told

they were perfectly safe. Organo organo phosphides and organo chloride man um what your liver has

processed over the years my friend and i'm not speaking yeah you are somebody said for the first

time the inner day remember you're a cancer survivor i never heard that tone applied to me of all

people i said no well i i know from some of the many of the comments actually that the people

feel a broader a deeper brotherhood with you over that so it's like a sort of damacly that

just hangs over you because yeah it's what the woman's called can canker the crab the crab is

always crawling inside eating you depressing the fact that's okay that's where we get the

inner that's where we get the term cancer i get i get it i get it it's just it's just latin for

crab yeah okay more depressing things i wonder how when truck shumer goes to the airport

is he waiting in a three hour no he's ushered by a VP they all are they all are you and you know

they all are because the socialist par excellence Bernie Sanders had that and aoc had those rallies

last summer and right were flown in by private jets he's got three homes and look at alien Omar

she's communist par excellence and she's worth 30 million dollars how she got that i don't know

and her sister runs one of these Somali charity entitlements that's no comment needed what it is

well while america waits for hours to get through tsa and now there's a threat that smaller

airports are going to be shut down and some of them are not so small or i travel out of i so

Bradley which is out of Hartford and Springfield is on a potential shut down this his headline must

go offers to pay tsa workers as dhs homeland security funding laps hits airports he he's he

posted on x this morning we're talking on Saturday the 21st i would like to offer to pay the salaries

of tsa personnel during this funding impasse that is negatively affecting the lives of so many

americans that airports throughout the country this dude is truly unique uh i don't know how many

there are there must be at least 10,000 don't you think that or how no yes if you get it if you

pay them five hundred dollars a day wouldn't it be i mean he's talking about five million dollars a

day right i don't know when you worth half for trillion or more or maybe it's uh maybe it's

surrounding error for him or maybe it's alone but still it's uh it's a great amazing it's amazing

gesture yeah and it comes at a time when we were told that you've got to take all the billionaires

money and drive them out of your state or tax them to death oh my god as your uh your former you

were former new york or your brother let's yeah let's let's talk about that if you don't mind and

two two two two related things on the tax front one is your governor your current governor

and to Gavin Newsom told a uh sx sw conference uh this is the last week in austin texas he said um

oh we california have the most progressive tax rates in america texas taxes poor folks more than

we tax our richest the question for you is who's the higher tax date california or texas who are you

for are you just for the one percent are you for the ninety nine percent so he's he's calling

california a low tax date because he's not yeah he's not very bright what he does is he takes the

income tax alone and he's right about that because of the black market which is huge in california

and because of the tax entitlements 50 percent of almost 50 percent of california do not pay the

state income tax about one percent pay about 40 percent of all of the income tax revenue maybe

and fit in probably uh five percent uh i put it this way five percent pay 40 percent of the

income tax and one one percent pays the rest 50 so what i'm getting at is yes he's right that

you in california because they don't it's socialism they just it's redistribution confiscatory

socialism for half the people don't even pay income tax but that's not the whole story

there's been study after study after study and they they do the following

what is the price of electricity and what is it's a state run public utility and it's controlled

and it's the highest in the continental United States what is the gas tax it's higher now in

Pennsylvania what is the sales tax it's like in theory seven and a half state but if you look at

all of the county and local add-ons it's about eleven to twelve percent and yes we have a lid

you can range from one to two and a half percent on property taxes but our assessed evaluation is

really the highest in the United States continental United States so when you look at all of these

taxes that hit the poor because they have to pay if they buy something they have to pay sales

tax they have to pay property tax they have to pay gas tax and their controlled utilities

or sky high then they are the most taxed and he knows that I think he knows that

but the thing about him is when he gets just think of what he said the last few days

last few weeks he said that he told the European leaders that they basically need to take their

knee pads off in other words they crouch down before Trump and perform a foul sex act upon him

that's what he said and then his team when the brave young kid who was trying to expose all of

the fraud and help the taxpayer comes to California he tweets out that he's a with pictures as if he's

a sexual predator all the boy kids are gonna like that and he's tweeted out that he'd like to hit

Trump in the mouth he's he's gone to a group of accomplished black people and said that he's

they're no smarter than he is he's no smarter than they are I mean every time he opens his mouth

he says something either foul, vile, mean, stupid, self-incriminating and then he has these

he and then he wows these you know these magazine editors and they always say how good looking he does

this and he does this strange kind of a Tim Waltz body contortion and then a version of Tim Waltz

so that's what he does and then what does he not do he has no plan to we have a fifth you know

25 billion dollar debacle called high speed rail it was supposed to be pretty much that cost for

the whole thing it's going to be 300 billion it's not even going to be close it's never going to be

built even when they not one foot of track has been laid when from Bakersfield to Merced if they

get that 170 mile link in five years it'll lose money every day unless people like you Jack

as tourist to California say oh my gosh I got to get to Merced and Bakersfield skip your

simmities skip Carmel skip Malibu Beach not knocking Merced not knocking I'm not making I ain't

living up I'm live here but people in my experience are not flocking to Selma either right and so

and then he's got no new dams we're short now water or we have a whole bond that has been

already funded that has misused he blows up dams he doesn't build them he's got the highest as I

say taxes in the country the schools are shambles they're in the bottom 10% one out of every three

people who checks into a hospital has diabetes in California 27% of the population was not born

in the state and there's no there's no means to acculturate and great assimilate them and then

we've got these 70,000 licenses that were issued to people who did not qualify and so we've

got a bunch of IED truck drivers are everywhere that are moving explosive devices that could kill

people in a second yeah and he doesn't talk and we have the Pacific Palisites fires we've had

all of these fires from his I don't know what you call green forest program or green fire

prevention will you just let them burn out and you throw people to yes you try to clean the hillsides

of Malibu or Palisades against the law you go into the Aspen fire you want to clear out brush

against the law he shut down the trucking the the mineral industries got sitting on vast deposits

of oil and gas and we're not developing them why he imports gasoline from Japan and oil from

Saudi Arabia and not believe me as sure as the sun gets up gas is now over five dollars here

and every time I go to Palo Alto or I drive through there it's seven I saw I saw a picture of

850 something yes and that's because of our special Gavin Newsom green blend and the highest gas

taxes and he's driven out two more refineries that are left and so now he has to import that very

hard to produce special strain of gas for the summer from the Caribbean or from Japan and now

it's going to be very very expensive as sure as the sun gets up he's going to say all Trump

raised your gas prices as if going from seven dollars eight dollars to ten or nine and it's

going to get there and when it gets there I think people are going to explode that voted for him

right now on the polls we have two Republicans that are ahead of the pack and this is very ironic

because they they pushed as you know Jack these jungle primaries and they wanted to put everybody

in in these blue states so that basically they thought they could get rid of the Republicans and

then run two Democrats in the final and there would be no choice and that's happened here but

it looks there might be no choice for Democrats you know well speaking of Democrats we're going

to take a break but before we do do that mentioned by the governor of the four say where I used to

live I haven't lived there for 40 years but the accent still is you can't get away from that

governor Kathy Hocal is begging wealthy New Yorkers who fled the city to encourage their rich pals

to come back and continue padding the Empire State's lavish public handouts this is from the New

York Post article so in 2022 Kathy Hocal running for governor said jump on a bus and head down

to Florida where you belong because you don't represent our values you are not New Yorkers she was

kind of echoing something that Andrew Cuomo had said a couple years earlier conservatives are not

true New Yorkers well the other day Hocal is begging maybe the first to wealthy people who have

moved to Florida maybe the first step should be to go down to Palm Beach and see who we can

bring back home because our tax base has been eroded poor baby yeah oh gosh duh is what she said

was this insult her retraction was more insulting than the offense because you said we need our

aggressive to help people on entitlements and you got to come back here and let us rob you for more

monies to pay for entitlements for people that are their programs are fraud red that's not going to

win Kathy I'm sorry they'd left they're gone could put gone banish smoke bat into story they're not

going to they're not going to beg you to come back so that you can insult them by stealing their

money and then running one of these fraudulent welfare problems we've seen in California and

in Minnesota and I remember when she said it she was running against lesal get out of here get out of

here I mean we don't you don't have our values well they did get out yeah and you should get out

and and we'll see what happened then poor monday this is why she's doing this and there's

Mondani with Khalil Mahmoud in the governor's mansion the poor Hamas person right after the IED

attacks and then his wife it's very funny she's a daughter of Syrian immigrants and one of

these naturalized citizens I just wrote something called the on gracious immigrant and all these

people whether they're illegal or whether they came in on a student visa or whether they got

natural they're on gracious so she comes here we're in a war in the middle east and now we get

this whole trove of stuff that she liked social media post postings that said that basically

October 7 was a hoax that Jewish girls didn't get raped and she thinks Tel Aviv shouldn't

exist and then he comes in with his little fake smile and says this is unfair she's just a private

person and then the next thing you know she's got a layout for some fashion magazine dressed up as a

postmodern European and then no I don't know what woke a person and she's coming on everything she's

illustrated this book that's utterly anti-Semitic and so we have my point of all this is you have

Kathy Hockle begging whose Jewish who's begging for everybody to come in no she's she's Catholic

I think she's Catholic oh excuse me I thought she was Jewish but she's not because I saw her in a

synagogue but maybe she was visiting yeah okay so she's doing all of this and then she's begging

these wealthy people and then her mayor who's this powerful in some sense more powerful in the

governor not maybe by statute but by publicity and and and and everything else power then he's

sending a message via his wife and via his own past statements that he doesn't want people

especially Jewish people he doesn't like them right and so you better get your narrative straight

why don't you just say we want all the Jewish American financiers and wealthy and successful people

that we drove out with our anti-Semitic attacks on the one hand and our confiscatory taxation on

the other we want you now to crawl back and give us the money because we have all sorts of

socialist dreams that are not realized and we want your money yeah and it may be fraudulent

but don't dare object by the way Victor and to please ignore the the mass of prayers now

happening in the streets of New York like we've seen in European cities the the whatever I'm

not want to make say anything untoward to our Muslim prayerful friends but but it's

their hundreds of people assembling in parks to do the to do the the prayer call and I saw

somebody comment he says you know I've been to I've been united Arab Emirates for 10 years I never

once saw people in the streets at the at the responding to the prayer how come it's happening here

in New York City now yeah so come back to this this is not it's funny about phenomenal if

there you you get a custom or cultured to something and I think a lot of the radical Islamic

population whether they're tearing apart Columbia University or they're chanting as we're in war

with Iran that they want Iran to win or we've got all of these naturalized citizens who are

yelling Allah Akbar as they kill Americans and they think they're exempt it's kind of a mind

and I think a lot of people do that because of lax it when I was a little kid I was in a school

and there was a there was a market across the street and we were told it was it was first as

third grade so obviously they didn't want you know six seven and eight year olds walking across

even though there's a crosswalk to this market right skipping the lunch and buying candy

because of the traffic and everything and I think his name was Mr. Evans you said I don't want

and those days you had might you know how they were there was not there was no taboo about having a

mic coming into your room like big brother yes so they had the Monday every morning we had the

principles message young men and women I want to remind you you are not not not to cross the street

you were to eat your lunch we didn't even have a cafeteria we had to eat outside or in our classrooms

but he said you're not to go over to the market and everybody was doing it and they thought because

everybody was doing it nobody would do and finally some people got fed up parents got fed up it was

dangerous drivers got fed up the teachers got fed up he got and then they just said if you're going

off campus and they locked the gate and you couldn't get back in and they called everybody's parents

it was like I went once to a BB King concert in the cell in Derino when I was 17 and they had like

that was in Fresno 3 and everybody said oh you know you're gonna you're gonna go to prison if

you had marijuana but if you go in there there's five thousand of ten thousand of us they can't

do anything I'm sitting there listening everybody was lighting up everybody and no

as the marijuana and then the next so then Elton John was playing about a month later

and I went to Elton John and well same thing and then Jimmy Buffett was playing you know I think

it was Jimmy Buffett and all of a sudden I swear he started the lights went on police came in

and they went down yeah and they just started resting everybody what I'm getting at is if you push

it and you push it and you start humiliating an authority and the law there's gonna be response

so I would remind our radical Islamic friends if they're our friends and they're not the radical

ones that are committing violent you keep pushing it and pushing it and pushing it and you think

that Islamophobia is gonna help you when you say how dare you and you think another person like

George Casey is gonna pop up out of this military and say well you just shot 13 soldiers and killed

them and wounded 32 and I would be just as tragic if we lose our DE it's not gonna happen

it's not gonna happen you people have reached the breaking point and I wouldn't keep doing it

there's not going to be a lot of illegal immigration at least until the Democrats come back

and they're gonna be looking very carefully at legal immigration and I think they're gonna be

able to denaturalize some of these people who have been committing crime and so I wouldn't push it

I really wouldn't totally agree my friend we have a hard stop in a few minutes and I haven't

taken a break yet so we're gonna take a break and we'll kind of come back with one final question

for Victor and that's about the late Paul or look we'll do that when we come right back in these

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we're back with Victor Davis Hanson in his own words recording on Saturday the 21st this

episode is up on the 24th Victor I do have to ask you though if the little Victor crossed the

street to the market what candy was he getting in 1962 or whenever it was you remember that

is it called basuca a bubblegum yeah yeah and it had a little cut so you could break it off easily

and give it to your friends yeah you could split it down yeah yeah I would get that and then

but what we did was did you save the cut did you save them to try to send in to get in

no I never did but what we did is I won't mention his name because he became a police officer

but he was a great guy he would come to us and he'd say all the little farming

it was mostly Mexican-American group yeah this guy was not Mexican-American but there was about

20 farm kids and they were like you know you go up on a farm and you you don't cross

the street without asking everybody permission you know what I mean so we didn't

but this guy would come around say hey I need 10 cents I need five cents from

and I'm going down my market run and then he would go and come back with this big paper bag

and and give it to him but in those days there was something called accessory so then Mr.

Evans said and I want to reiterate that if anybody gives money and how someone do the buy in

for them and in our eyes they're just as guilty and then I remember all of us said oh man

and Mrs. Redner was Mrs. Wilson said that's called accessory and that is equivalent to the

crime itself you imagine a American graffiti remember asking the kid what hoping the guy would go

into liquor store and buy him booze it's a far cry from buying Victor a bubble gum but so be it

I know what I was guilty of giving time happier times so hey Victor we were supposed to have unhappy

times if Paul Ehrlich was going to be right he's he died a few down two weeks ago Professor Jason

Riley at the Wall Street Journal wrote a very interesting piece about him and here's what the

summation of it Jason writes making spectacularly wrong predictions of imminent catastrophe became

something of a habit for Ehrlich over the decades his dire forecast about global warming cooling

and warming were wide of the mark a two-fer he speculated that the US and Europe would be forced

to ration food encourage couples to limit themselves to one or two children in 1971 he said

that by the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished

islands inhabited by 70 million hungry people three years later he predicted America's economic

joyride is coming to an end that will be no more cheap food uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh

there will be no more cheap abundant energy no more cheap and abundant food he was also very famous

for the population bomb but Victor I ask you this only because he is one of the remember is

big wager oh with Julian Simon yeah yeah he lost one of the famous experts and uh uh uh

of all and yet he's um I feel bad half of me follows that the Roman reminder

me he'll dig a nisi bonon day more to ease don't say anything except a good thing about the

recently departed however he was very provocative and he did a lot of damage he was the one that

told us as I remember in the populate you you can have one child but you have to adopt another one

and he he convinced and you saw that with AOC who said she's not having children because she's

doesn't want to bring them into a boiling planet and he's he was he was the first wave population

and then they said well it's more than population Paul it's also um environment

the green movement he had predated the green movement he lived up in San Francisco he was kind

of a cult figure as I remember and population bomb was gosh when I was in school in 1971 at UC

Santa everybody had it everybody had it was assigned in a couple of mandatory courses I had and it

was all he said that by 2000 Britain would be completely starving and it would have no food or

fuel and the scattered cars in all the time he was a popular figure he was a very photogenic he

was very well spoken he was very he was sort of a public intellectual he really was and he was

wrong he was all yeah he was a Carl Sagan he prototype and he he did a lot of damage and

just that I mentioned you see Santa Cruz that that was a crazy universe had just opened it was a

very good university but the people were completely insane in the early 70s where I went and I can

remember because the lake we're speaking about people who just perished died Caesar Chavez did

and I've talked about him elsewhere we can talk about him if you wish but I can remember the first

day I went to my dorm room at UC Santa Cruz Cal College and it was in September and we had picked

the raisins and when you pick 90% of the crop people miss some and then they get very sweet the

remaining buncher too so weak kids would always go through and get and these were not table grapes for

sale the big green ones they were the little yellow ones now they're very sweet yeah same species but

they have not been girdled or had gibberic acid put on them to pump them up people forget that

that those green grapes you buy in the store are not natural but yeah the little yellow ones are

and they make girdling yes and we made we made raisins so I bought some that I picked myself and I

brought in the next day my parent state we bought a I don't know what it was motel six we moved

all my stuff in my twin brother moved in he was in another college and then I was straight

it out and then the next day you could come so my dad you know you I think I told you we went

it went with me went in the shower and two people were fornicating in the nude and he said oh my

gosh and then he lent back against the picture of Jimmy Hendrix and almost fell through the wall

where they'd had a party and they kicked holes in all the sheet rock and then they put posters over

them but I went in there and then he left and I was all alone and I had my door open going and then

I had a table you could see and it had grapes and I I swear everybody that came by would stick

their head in are those grapes I said yes they're grapes what you're not allowed to have them here

I said their mind who picked them were they union and I said they're union because I picked them

and I own them and I picked them well you're part of the problem then you're one of the grower

the grower insects they're just doing this to Caesar and all of you I said no no that's in Delano

that's the table grape this is a complete this is a family small farm raising production not very

different and even the people in Delano the Jamera family the Zulums you name it all of them

were small they came from the depression with nothing they came from Italy they came from Serbia

they came a lot of them Zanavic Pando they came from Serbia Croatia and they were hardworking families

and you know Chavez basically said well I'm a nonviolent Christ like Gandhi figure you're all evil

and that spread to the Kennedys coming out there but all these students and they were all most

of them for Los Angeles they were very wealthy and I said have you ever picked grapes in your life

no have you ever been to a vineyard no do you think that Caesar Chavez is nonviolent yes I said he's not

they sabotage driveways with nails that they have sabotage shipments and when they swarm a field

they they use force they send people down to the border to stop the illegal aliens with force

it's high stakes unionization and it's an utterly corrupt union and it will not you know

and then this is before he went to Sinan and you played the game where he was using profanity

and force and using the Sinan thugs to enforce his own union I should have said and everybody was

everybody in these small farming communities would talk to workers that work that were not in the

union and they'd always say he's a communist not that he was I don't know whether he was or not

a socialist but they said there's things going on in that union you wouldn't believe and every once

while he'd fire they had a bunch of Anglo or whatever you want to call him white

college graduate socialist that were and then he would get rid of them all as disloyal then he

go down to to Hatchapy and his compound where he's buried today but my point is that nobody was

quite aware of it but it had permeated that he was doing things that you shouldn't be doing

and there were rumors and then it comes out 95-year-old Dolores Huerta says that she

fathered two children I think she was married to his brother too by Chavez DNA proved in there

in their 60s and didn't even know until recently and then she says she was raped forcibly

violently by him in a great field and then coerced in a hotel room and then we find out he groomed

two daughters of some of his advisors supporters and sexually groomed him there now

quite you know in their 70s I suppose and he was having inappropriate sexual abuse I don't know

what I don't want to know what happened and they were in preteens 812 and there are others

and he was a serial adulterer so he had this kind of angelic face I heard him in the park

in Salma he came in the 60s or 70s I went and listened to him first year in high school I think

and he was a saint everybody said he was saintly but he was doing things that if anybody else had

done them and it was known they the people around him knew what he was doing yeah and they didn't

say a word because they felt that Dolores Huerta they said to her why didn't you tell people he

was a rapist you could have helped well it was I had to save the cause that I had to help the union

so what happens with the left now the left is to establish that we don't judge people by the bad

and good you know unless you're left I mean Martin Luther King was a serial adulterer David

Geralt said he had over 40 lezzons and there was that Ralph Abernathy memoir where he said that

King watched a rape take place in a hotel room and might have egged on the rapist yeah and we said

St. America said well that was the evil part of him but he did a lot of good and he did a lot of

good so therefore the plus and minuses that's how we what we don't do that with somebody like

Robert E Lee we don't do it with somebody like Woodrow Wilson I'm not a big fan of him how about

Earl Warren they took his name off they raced it from Bold Hall he was a good he was a good man

he was a goodness private life I disagreed with him but he was he thought he was doing right but

they he was completely trotsky eyes so the left has this propensity and it's going to be very

interesting because when they get when they get into the situations where you can't character

somebody as an old white guy but one of the DEI brethren then you have a real problem and all

of a sudden Jack I walked for 20 years and there was a Caesar Chavez statue there's a memorial

garden at Cal State Fresno and there's Gandhi and Martin Luther King and they have a big black

tarp over it immediately and and the reason is is that he should have had Martin Luther King

exemption but he's in the intersectionality and one of the intersectionalities are women and

when they see coming out of the Epstein files and the me too years people are saying we don't

really care if you do this to women and so I think they're going to cancel Caesar Chavez day he's

at state holiday in California and they're going to call it farm workers day they're going to change

they have almost every single town over 30 40 thousand people has a Caesar Chavez building

or street yeah highway yeah I remember from my childhood is a Catholic that he

he came out of a hunger strike in the first thing he did was he had communion that was the first

and the Kennedys were involved in it and so yeah he had this I grew up on what was the Catholic

bishop from Fresno he was him Los Angeles he from Fresno he went to Los Angeles and he was

my mom yes he got in trouble himself remember later yeah he was alive he's a he's a bad egg yeah well

he would give lectures about the piety of Caesar Chavez he was the bishop here are not the bishop

I guess it might less important in the Fresno diocese than he went to Los Angeles but

he was a big advocate also of open borders which Chavez you know Chavez club club had people

be club and everything about it it was so strange because when he when there were rumors that he

was not nonviolent and his brother was in charge of the strong arm you know using violence

or when they were intimidate other workers or when he would say things like I hate growers

and then he you and then he got this synonym weird call and they were violent violent people

and they played these awful porn graphic oh not porn graphic but they get together and then

they scream in people and call use profanity and try to insult them and humiliate them

when he was doing all of this stuff and then the other dark side of the sexual perversion

you couldn't say anything he was he was sank he was sane and well me too has come for him

part of they fall feet of clay and it's just a reminder that nobody is exempt nobody nobody nobody

I said me too comes to resolve but God comes to resolve too so yes in fact we got

in this in a minute or two but I have a couple comments to read from so many folks thank you for

taking the time to to comment this one is from our bridges you nine m you're right I'm so glad

that people have been praying for you when I heard you were sick I was so scared I kept telling God

please don't let anything happen to him we need him right now you are love victor Davis Hansen

you're a love by God and you will love by all of us thank you thank a lot of people say things

just like that Raymond Layfield 2785 writes it's wonderful to have you back I grew up on the central

coast you are common sense your common sense approach to the issues is a breath of fresh air and

finally one from CSBN4UN I don't know what it stands for but victor have encouraged my grown

children and a number of teens to listen to your broadcast and consider your books as a Christmas

gift sent one of your books to a history loving and plants be a history teacher high school senior

you are among a very few who give such a good historical foundation for everything unfolding now

fits well into our homeschool years decades ago where I attempted with good materials and the

Bible to lay such a foundation which I had your publications in those years appreciate all of your

youtube videos but y'all are a great broadcast do always talking about you and the great

Sammy Wink also love your family history stories which weave into today's events in your life

so all to all to those and all else who who take the time and time yeah appreciate it I just

remind before we leave don't jump to conclusions we're witnessing a rare moment in history

haven't seen anything like this since the fall of the Soviet Union and the liberation of eastern

Europe from 89 to 91 and there are geos strategic political historical forces that play

whether it's in Venezuela or Cuba or Iran which involve the entire Middle East which

and die involve all of Latin America's future and they have a direct bearing whether by intent as

I suspect but by collateral effects on China and we don't know how it's going to end up but there

is a potential to remake the world as we knew it at least in the United States as we look out at

our neighbors in South America and the Caribbean and we look at the Middle East

it's it's it's a new world order I can get and yes and don't don't jump to conclusions that

it's over or we know what's going we don't know what's going to happen but

we are in the middle of a radical transformation if this all of these things play out

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