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You guys welcome in a Tuesday on TGS. No Dave Delver once more. Dave will be back next
week still down in Jupiter having a good old time watching the Cardinals hanging out
with his buddies. He and Michael Kelly apparently the dynamic duo seems like he's having
fun. He's not even I know he's not even texting. Yeah, he must be having fun because he
sent us the picture yesterday. And that's pretty much been it, right? Yeah, pretty much.
That tells you two things. You're having fun and then when you're not having fun, you're tired.
Because there's a lot. Look, it's a lot when even when you're vacationing and visiting down there.
First of all, he hasn't he doesn't play much golf and playing a full round of golf is definitely
going to be tiresome. It's going to wear you out a little bit. But just know that the fun is
happening. Dave's having a good vacation. He and his buddy Michael Kellier hanging out watching
ball games. I'm guessing they're probably at the game today. And those lucky jerks tomorrow night
get to go see the Dominican and Venezuela and the world baseball classic. And that will be
that's a party. Now, if you guys haven't seen it, right, you've seen baseball in Japan. Yeah.
How would you describe the atmosphere at the game you went to in Japan compared to what you see here?
They just have a lot more like crowd activities and it's just it's very active the whole time.
That's exactly what it is when it comes to a lot of the Caribbean countries. They just,
it's just the it's the tradition that way, just like it is in Japan. And we're a little more
buttoned up in the big leagues, but we're starting to loosen up. But it's it's something that you know,
you and especially you know, it's down in Miami. So you're going to have a lot of people in from
those countries, but it'll also live in South Florida. It's going to be a crazy crowd. I'm very
jealous of Dave getting to go to that. Jealous of all of it. But like that's the thing I'm most
jealous of because I've done the other things. You know, been to spring training, seen the games.
It's great. It's a lot of fun. But I have not been to the WBC in an atmosphere like that. So I'm
very jealous. He's got one up on me. It's going to be fun. Some day, I'm going to have to try to
correct that maybe three years down the road at the next WBC. So obviously normal business without
Dave, except it's without Dave. He'll be here on Monday. But we'll talk to Brad Young today.
Buddy Alex rich from down the hall is going to pop in. Tom Ackerman's going to join us from
Jupiter again. Dave Murray later on. So we're all over the place as usual and plenty of stuff to do.
And in fact, I would say guys probably more fun than not fun. Yeah. But I think we probably just
do what we normally do. The Dave Glover Show tradition and get the not fun out of the way.
Just like eating your vegetables first at dinner so you can enjoy your steak and dessert.
Because obviously the news from around is what it's going to be when you're talking about a war,
right? Wars are going to be disruptive. They're going to be awful for the people that are directly
impacted by them. And they also have the impact back home that we talked a bit about yesterday
with oil prices. And we got caught again yesterday. Not we, you know, the administration got caught
again yesterday being in between, you know, in one part of the day, the message is we've destroyed
their military. They have no air force. They're navies at the bottom of the sea. And then later in
the day, it's they better not do anything to disrupt the oil going through those the straight
of hormones. Like, well, if you wiped out their military, how are they doing anything?
Which is it? Yeah. And this, you know, the lack of consistent
communication we had, you know, you guys know the story about the Tomahawk missile that hit
near a school. Obviously destroyed the school. And it's if it's a Tomahawk missile.
It's ours. Right. Iran doesn't have Tomahawk missiles. They're they're only produced
by one company. And they are exclusive to us with some exceptions. Like England, UK has them,
Australia, I think the Netherlands, like our allies, right? Our allies have bought them. But
they're not there. They're not firing anything off. Right. We're there. And Iran is there. And
Iran doesn't have Tomahawks. And yet, you know, the president's out there saying it was them.
It wasn't us. It was them. But he doesn't know. And even when he was pressed on it,
he was asked a simple question, well, why are you the only person in your administration saying
this? And he said something along the lines of, well, I still don't know enough about it.
Well, then why are you talking? I mean, we could make this so much easier. Just get the answers
and then tell us rather than feeling this need to go back and forth. I don't know. Man, I
obviously everything involving this type of military action sucks. Right. It sucks for the families
of all the people that are serving now overseas. And for that, I see it. It's got a suck for
families that aren't that don't have people stationed there yet because you know, they might go.
So it sucks for them. Obviously, it sucks for any civilians that get caught in the way that
aren't even a part of the fight. And it sucks for all of us because we pay the price at the gas
pump. We pay the price in other ways. And we are the third on that list, right? I mean, my gas
prices is nowhere near as important as the lives of human beings. And obviously from our view,
the lives of our airmen and soldiers and sailors and all of that.
But we can't even get on the same page with how we're going to communicate it because like six
months ago, the story was we absolutely obliterated Iran's nuclear capabilities.
And now it's we had to go fast because they were going to do it. Well, wait a minute. If you
obliterated those six months ago, this is the back and forth that drives me nuts. I don't know
how you guys feel about it. But there's a lot of disagreement on individual things,
but this inconsistency, this I'm going to thump my chest and brag because we kicked their ass
and we took them down. And then it turns out you didn't. And then yesterday, it's the same kind of
thing. We're like in the morning, like we have destroyed all of their navy. We have destroyed
their air force, but they better not try to disrupt oil. Well, if you've destroyed those things,
how are they going to do that? Yeah, I mean, we're just at this really unfortunate point in
when it comes to our country, where it's like, you just can't trust anything anyone says.
And you definitely can assume that these things are being said and done in good faith.
Because then you will end up just even more frustrated. I am just at the point where I just assume
I'm I'm being lied to and I'm being misled. And I really don't like being like that. But
whenever you're receiving contradictory, contradictory information on a daily basis.
On the same day about the same subject. And people will say things. And then reporters are like,
well, yesterday you said this and they're like, no, I didn't. Well, we have you on tape. We
literally have a video of you saying it. And it's not like some sort of AI deep fake like you said
it. But you can just deny it. And then there's just so much happening. I was listening to
Chris and Amy. I guess it was yesterday morning. And Amy was talking about there's just so much
happening that it's it's you just lose track of what's going on. And I do find that to be
intentional. Oh, yeah. Um, it's just basically waterboard us with as much information and
false information information. You can't trust. Hey, look over there. Look over there. Look over
there. It's impossible to nail things down and really get to the root of what's going on on
any individual issue because we're being bombarded constantly with lies and deception.
Seems about to the man, it seems a good way to sum it up. And it's just
the baffling part is the people that missed the contradiction. So be like, that's not really
a contradiction. Well, yeah, it is. If you're saying they're decimated, then they can't stop you
from transporting oil. And we, you know, it turns out here's the reality of what we see from
intelligent sources, military sources is that the idea of just simply escorting the oil tankers
through the straight of our moves is not as simple as you think it is. So yes, in terms of in theory,
it's a great idea, right? Because warships won't attack your warships for fear of being sunk
like that idea. But what we're not thinking of is the unconventional stuff. What I what I saw in
in the right up was the Republican guard is probably going to be going more in a stealth slash
guerrilla mode. So it's going to be laying minds through the straight of our moves. It's going
to be suicide boats ramming into things. It's going to be it's going to be unconventional,
which makes it difficult for a warship to deal with. And not that we don't have counters for all
of those things, but it just complicates the issue, right? It's not as simple as follow behind
these 10 oil tankers and nobody will mess with them. It's just not that simple. And it's also
a lot more oil tankers than you think on a day to day basis. And this idea that we always come up
with these solutions that seem so simple. But then in terms of executing them, they're not simple.
They're very complicated. And I know that the people that are that are
the actual military commanders, they know these things, right? They're not the ones that are throwing
these things out there to the public. But now we're talking, you know, you got one of the biggest
oil producers in the world saying that if this continues, if there's a choke in that area,
if it continues, that it could be catastrophic for the world economy.
Well, I'm not sure how that was, again, none of that was communicated. None of that is acknowledged
in any of the things. And if it is, is, is what we're doing so necessary that all of these other
risks go. If that's the case, you got to prove your case, right? I think we can all, if you're a
grown person, you can listen to logic and reason. You can say, hey, yeah, we know that's the price of
doing this, but it's necessary now. And here's x, y, and z, y, it's necessary. And we don't get that
kind of thing. And look, we don't, we don't get that kind of direct disclosure very much. And I'd say
going back 30 years, at least, I mean, I don't remember anything before that because I just was either
too young or just not engaged in it. But starting in my, in my 20s, paying attention, it's been
similar. You know, there's always deflection and deception. And you know, my earliest memory of it
was the whole Clinton wag the dog thing, right? When the Lewinsky things going on, oh, look at this,
we're going to go over here and we're going to shoot some rockets. Like that stuff has been going
on for a long time. But it's also like important for all of us to understand, we should all understand
the consequences for us when an administration of any sort decides to pursue something of this
magnitude without bringing Congress into it. Not saying you can't do it legally, that's not the point.
The point is we should all be able to understand what it's going to mean and then have the
justification that this is worth it. Right? I mean, like as a simple example, we found, we figured
out who attacked us on 9-11. We knew that we needed to take out that leadership. There was a plan to
do that. It didn't go smoothly and perfectly, but it was pretty understandable what we needed to do
and why we needed to do it. And we didn't do it the right way. I think we made a lot of mistakes
along the way, including being sidetracked into a rock. So that's not a defense of the whole thing.
But we understood this is the purpose. These are the people that attacked us. This is what we're
going to do. We're going to get justice. And in this case, saying these are bad guys isn't just
by itself enough of a justification for something of this magnitude.
Well, and then you ask questions like, okay, so how much longer do you think this is going to
continue? And then we get completely contradictory. Right. Almost over. It's almost over. It's
almost over, but it could go on for a while. So which one is it? Oh, it's both. That is
something that was actually said. I know it's absolutely nuts. And that's why I have to then look
at the situation and say, okay, bringing clarity to the American people is by no means a priority.
In fact, it feels like the priority is just to confuse us and further knock us off the balance.
So then you can continue to move however you like. And we just have a harder and harder time
holding the situation accountable. Yeah. I mean, again, I think most of us, and I'm not even dividing
between who voted for who, because I think even a lot of people that voted for the current
administration can see through a lot of the contradictions and things along those lines.
When it comes down to our time to actually do things about it at the elections, we don't.
I mean, we can yell, we can investigate. I mean, and again, it takes, it takes our
representatives, our other elected representatives to assert their own power in their own branch of
government to do this. But unfortunately, it's become too much of a team sport and not enough of,
hey, you know what, the people really need the people really need the truth. They need the answers.
They need to know what's going on. And we need to be representing them and not representing our
party before we represent our constituents. Well, here's the thing. When Donald Trump was elected
in November of 2024, the one comfort that I had in the situation, because I did not want him
to become president again, the one comfort I had was, well, he says no new wars. At least he's
not a war hawk. He's not going to be out there looking for trouble. That has not been the case
at all. And I have to believe there are plenty of people who voted for the president because he said
there would be no new wars under his administration who are extremely disappointed and frustrated
with the way things have actually played. Yeah, I mean, we've talked about the podcast
universe where they kind of went on, came on board in 2024. In part because of that.
And MTG is one of the people that's kind of a leading critic of, you know, that idea that, hey,
we wanted no wars. We didn't want international intervention. We wanted, and we wanted release
of the Epstein files and we wanted the swamp drained and you hear all these promises. And in a
campaign, you're told what you want to hear. I mean, it's a unique to this administration,
but you're told what you want to hear. And then what happens after the fact isn't quite what was
promised during the campaign season.
Nice to see us on a Tuesday. Dave will be back next week. The rest of the crew were all here
throughout the week. And three of us with our various guests will see you through to next week.
And by the way, as of Thursday, we're only two weeks from opening day. Yay.
And this Thursday, we will have a little bit of a late start because we've got the Cardinals game.
I think at 12.5 or 12.10 in the afternoon on Thursday. So we'll be getting a little bit of a late
start here on DGS. Just just and as I can't even go through Twitter for a couple minutes without
seeing stuff about all of this. And I promise we're moving on from all of this in just a little bit.
But I think it's important to note problems like the one I saw today where one reporter was quoting
the energy secretary. Chris Wright as saying, Hey, the US Navy escorted an oil tanker through the
straight of our moves. And then another reporter is saying from Fox News, Jennifer Griffin from Fox
News said, this is not true. I am told from a well-placed military source, no US military assets
have escorted any oil tankers through the straight of our moves yet. Despite energy secretary,
Chris Wright's claim to the contrary. Why? Why is the energy secretary just making crap up?
I really don't know. I don't understand the reasoning behind it. Could you all maybe get on
the same page? And I get it. The problem, the problem, a lot of the problem is it's a reaction to
public reaction, right? Oh, oil prices are up. And then it's like, okay, what can we say to calm
this down? Well, even if what you're saying to calm this down isn't real, I guess you feel like
that's still going to work. How long do you think it's going to last before we find out it ain't real?
In this case, it was a matter of minutes. I mean, it was I want to say, let's see if I can find
the tag on it. It was like a matter of 15 minutes in time. And that's just for those two tweets.
There could have been others that were doing it. And we're just continuing with this silliness
of one person in the administration saying something and another one saying something else.
And then people who are have actual sources in the military being like, no,
none of this is happening. What are they talking about?
Rachel, do you want to play your audio? Yeah, I've found this video. This is actually back from
January. It says during his run for president, Donald J. Trump repeatedly said he wouldn't start
any new wars. Here's a montage from his first 50 campaign stops. So this starts in April of 2023.
So he already has a say that, oh, he's going to start a walk because they said I had that
personality to start a war. They remember that. Oh, we can't vote for him. He's going to start a
war. No, I used my personality that we didn't have to have wars. I was the first president in decades
who started no new wars, who started no new wars and no new wars. No new wars.
We don't need the wars far in lands. Countries you've never heard of. Countries that don't even
want us there. I was the first president in decades who started no new wars. I was the first
president in decades who started no new wars. We will expel the war mongers from our government.
You know, we never got into a war with me. I have a great record. We had peace. We had prosperity.
We had no wars. We had no wars that started no wars. We didn't have a war. We will expel the
war mongers from our government. We will expel the war mongers. It's got for like another minute
of all of that at least. Again, the point is not that in the real world where we do speak with nuance
and we understand situations can change. But when it's promise after promise after promise,
oh, we're going to release the Epstein files and we're going to do this and we're going to do that.
And then as soon as it's time to do that, I mean, I'm still waiting for the replacement for
Obamacare that was supposed to happen day one of his first administration. And when you make non-stop
bold, braggadocia statements about how great you're going to be and what you're going to do and then
you don't do it, you're going to get heat for it. And I would like to think that anybody who
voted for him for those reasons would be like, yeah, I'm not really happy about this because I
actually wanted him to do this differently.
I teach you on a Tuesday, Dave will be back next Monday and I'm sure we'll get some more
tales from the road. They really should have done this like a buddy documentary, you know, Dave
and Michael Kelly could make a good buddy film out of this. I bet. What do you think guys?
Do you think it'd be more like what's the what's the movie in wine country where there's a guy
the two guys drive sideways? I never watched hate. I hate those kind of movies. I do like Giamatti
but I didn't like that. But then there's a there because it that or is it the hangover?
It sideways. Yeah, hangover isn't like that. That's not like a like a trip movie.
It's a bit of a road trip movie. They're going to Vegas. They're driving the cars. Yeah.
A little bit of that wolf pack, baby. They're already in Vegas when the movie happens though.
No, in the beginning, they're at their homes and they're talking about going there and then they
all pick each other up and drive together. It's a road trip. There is a car. They did get in the car.
You're right. The father-in-law was like, yeah, I trust you, buddy. You could take my fancy
S-car. He's got you there. I completely forgot about the first four and a half minutes ago.
It's a little more than that, but you're right. It's not the majority of the movie.
Ray, why don't you raise his edge? Yeah, I want to talk about Quentin Tarantino.
So, disclaimer, I really like Quentin Tarantino's films. I can separate those films from
what we're about to talk about. No. So, Rosanna Arquette is an actress. She was in Pulp Fiction.
But she recently was talking about Quentin Tarantino on like a podcast or something.
And she basically said like, look, Pulp Fiction is iconic. It's a great film on a lot of levels.
But personally, I am over the use of the N word. I hate it. I just cannot stand that Tarantino
has been given a hall pass. It's not art. It's just racist and creepy. So that's her feeling on
the matter. Is she talking about his regular day-to-day language like Onset or is he talking about
his scripts? I think she's talking about the fact that he kind of uses any opportunity he can
to say that word. I get you. Whether it's him, whether it's the characters in the films that he
makes. He likes throwing that word around, which is a little odd for a white director to do.
I mean, I think it's the kind of thing you should expect criticism if you're doing that all the
time. And if I'm not mistaken in Pulp Fiction, his character is using that word a lot.
Oh, no, he's not. Again, this is like a self-insert of him.
Yeah. I mean, it's no one's decision but Quentin Tarantino's for that character to use the word as
much as he did. So she comes out and she says it picks up a couple of headlines the other day.
It's to be expected. You know, it's like a juicy thing to say about someone you've worked
within the past. Quentin Tarantino, though, comes out and instead of like addressing
what makes him make those decisions or defending the choice artistically, this is what he comes out
and says. He says, Rosanna, I hope the publicity you're getting from 132 different media outlets
writing your name and printing your picture was worth disrespecting me and a film. I remember
quite clearly you were thrilled to be a part of. But after I gave you a job and he took the money
to trash it for what I suspect is very cynical reasons chose a decided lack of class no less
honor. And I just find that very funny because it's like, okay, so you're not really disagreeing
with her opinion at all. You're not defending your choice to use the word repeatedly and maybe
saying like, yeah, maybe it is weird. Let me think about this. And you're not coming out and
saying like, I would do it again. I'll do it 45 more times. You're instead making this about like,
well, you took the money so you should never criticize me. Well, it's been like 25 years since that
movie came out maybe longer. I don't know. I'm guessing she didn't get paid that much for the
role she had either. Well, yeah, that's the thing. Like she's never allowed to have the opinion
because you cast her in a film that came out 30 years ago or however long it's been. Yeah.
I don't know. It's just it's always funny to see someone like get caught up in something like
this. And then to just make what seems like the worst possible decision in addressing it. Like
in my opinion, it would have been better to just not address it. But to come out and be like, well,
you took the money so you should never criticize me. Like, okay, I don't think that's doing what
you think it's doing. All it's doing is showing like how entitled you are. You feel like since you
gave her an opportunity a long time ago, she's not allowed to have an opinion. You don't even want
to like come out and defend yourself. You're only defenses. But you shouldn't even be criticizing me
in the first place. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to put too much into her criticism because let's be
real. As you point out, it's been a long time. And I haven't heard other people accuse him of this.
And he's had a lot of famous actors with a lot of power in his movies. Doesn't mean that it's not
happening. Doesn't mean she's wrong. I'm just not going to immediately say, oh, yeah, she's right.
But at the same time, you could you could respond in a way that includes a denial.
That's that's an incorrect take. And you know, it's the characters and the movies and all that
stuff. And it's trying to be real for that for those characters. And I mean, there are plenty of
ways you can be as your way around it that included denial as opposed to just attacking the person.
Right? I mean, like, if you're going to deny something, then just deny it. Don't just go attack
the accuser. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's one thing to say to them, you have this wrong. Here's why.
And it's another thing to come back and say, hey, just shut up. Just shut up your stupid, right?
Like, that's that's not a defense. So yeah, not a big fan of, of course, he did that same thing.
Who was the actor that he ripped the other? I would say. Paul Dano, like this, this guy who's
actually really good. And he's he, you know, he's played some creepy characters. And that's kind of
what his thing has been. But he's really good. And he's he's doing well. He's in big movies.
He's he gets big roles. And you're sitting here talking about how he's trash.
So, uh, you know, uh, Quentin's not it. I don't, I'm not sure he's the most consistent thinker
in the world. So wheels, I want to address you said, like, you've never heard anyone else coming at him
for this. Like I haven't heard it from like Sam Jackson, Travolta, like the people that have been
the Bruce Willis because there are a lot, like his movies have a lot of big people. I'm not saying
it hasn't come out. I'm just saying I haven't heard the big people come at him. So Spike Lee,
the director of Spike Lee, uh, this is what he had to say after Quentin Tarantino's 1997 movie
Jackie Brown. He said at the time, I have a definite problem with Quentin Tarantino's excessive
use of the N word and let the record state, I never said he cannot use that word. I've used that
word in most of my films. But I think something is wrong with him. Okay. I'm going to add to it a little
bit. Well, I think we could we agree there is something wrong with him. Yeah. I mean, like,
there is something wrong with with Tarantino. He's a weird guy. He is a weird guy and a lot of that
weirdness contributes to like I said, I enjoy many of his films. Um, I just, I have had those thoughts
too while watching like Pulp Fiction, for instance, I remember being weirded out and just being like,
yeah, look, I know this came out a long time ago, but this is this is quite a choice. Yeah.
At the time, it was not nearly as uncommon as it would seem now, right? Like that movie,
that movie at that time did not stick out as much, not defending it in any way, shape or form.
But at that time, a lot of the music was going that way. A lot of cult pop culture was going
in that way. And there was a lot of debate about it. Like it wasn't just an okay, this is fine.
There was a lot of debate about it. I think now that overzealous use of it in that setting
would probably get a little bit more notice. Yeah. And I'm like completely open to
Tarantino coming out and saying something like, yeah, you know what? In 1994, I was throwing it
around a lot. I wouldn't make those choices now. But again, as you pointed out two wheels,
that's now what was said. All that is said was like, how dare you criticize me? You're not allowed
to criticize me because I gave you an opportunity 31 years, 32 years ago. Yeah. My goodness.
And I do, I do think, I'm not going to do this on the fly.
Because it's really hard to kind of look these things up. But I do think there have been cases where
like Sam Jackson has said, look, it's just a movie, man. It's part of the script. And I don't have
any issues with Tarantino. But the fact that there's the fact that the core issue of it is,
all right, there's a debate about it. There are people that don't like it. There are people that
are fine with it. Okay. That's that's pretty much a normal issue. But when you are presented with
a criticism and your response is shut up, you're stupid as opposed to no, no, no, that's not what
this is. This is what is is. Make sure that well, yeah. And I tend to the way you just laid out
that out was so great wheels because I feel like if there was some sort of like secret,
amazing creative decision behind using the word over and over again, wouldn't it just be
easier to say that and explain that. But it seems like there is no reason. It seemed like
just a thing that he wanted to do. And again, like, that's that's okay. Just don't be shocked
if people think it's weird. If you're doing something that's weird, why are you like
acting like it's the craziest thing in the world for someone else to comment on the fact that
it's weird. Yeah. So yeah, any who. Yeah, the story that I'm looking at from Sam Jackson,
I won't go too deep. But if he was talking about Django Unchained and how Leonardo DiCaprio was
like, I don't know if I can do this. And it was it was both Sam Jackson and Quentin Tarantino
that went to him said, no, no, you got to do this. This is what this character is. You've got
to do it. So it'll be a back and forth, but I got to say just overall Tarantino didn't help
himself.
Let's DJ us on a Monday.
David Owl, he's down in Jupiter just doing the Jupiter Florida spring training thing, having
a good time. We'll look forward to get him back next week. We have a Cardinals game that'll be
taken up the beginning of this show on Thursday, but then we'll come on after that probably
between three and three 30 on Thursday to get things rolling. Tom Akramin is going to join us
at four o'clock today. Brad Young will join us here at the top of the hour after the two o'clock
news. We also have Dave Murray later on. So pretty much a normal Tuesday on DGS. All right,
so guys, I got a question for you that that I don't know why today hit me this way, but I did the
I did the the soda fountain dance stopped at my QT on the way to get my my diet due.
Do you guys ever think that as you're going through that process like you put in the ice you're
filling the drink and you got to wait like four different times to get the foam to come down so
you can fill it up and do it like I'm sitting there watching it today and there's like four other
people in front of me and we're all doing the same thing. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
I just find this to be such a bizarre thing. Like we had this little routine, this little ritual
where you like get your ice get your drink, but there's no way to do it without that little extra
like waiting at the end for the foam to come down and then you're going to get that little bit more
because I know this. I'm not taking three quarters of a drink. I'm getting my monies worth. Yeah,
but everybody's doing it. And I know you should. I know we should. It's smart, but it's just like,
I don't know. It struck me today as being very weird. The worst part about it is that grown up. You're
just like, and this is obviously this is like a me flaw. But like when I'm up there, I'm like
reclaiming my time, right? Like this is my time just belongs to me and no one may infringe upon
it. And when I'm behind somebody, I'm like, oh my god, you're so right. It's the same way
when nobody else does that. Nobody else does the finger in the bubbles, right?
You do that? Yeah, I'll do that. Yeah, that's the polite thing to do. Oh, speed things up a little bit.
No, you're right. It does a little bit. Oh, man. I guess I know the answer to this question,
but I'll ask it anyway. Yes, I have a pig monster.
I just say, am I the only one who if there's a line over there, I just go, I don't need one.
No, I'm waiting. Yeah. I came in there for that reason. Like, I literally, this is all I
stopped for today at Qt was this my entire mental state depends on whether or not I can get a
large. See, I, if I leave there without a soda, I just might go missing. You guys all have a soda
from time to time. Yeah. But and maybe you're watching the stream now saying Rachel in the past
few days, you've had several Qt cups. I was getting the lemon line gatorade, fountain drink,
which was really nice because I am not feeling well. However, if I go in and I'm sorry,
I'm getting a coughing fit. If I go in and I get my Coke zero with my little bit of cherry
in the big Q, I enjoy it until I get to about the bottom third and then I just start to feel.
Well, it gets watery. Yeah. I'm like, what am I doing? This is so much soda. Yeah.
Can we pet the high horse you're riding around on or is that just for you? I'm just sharing
no, it's if it's in our cat. Look, I'm not saying I'm right, but I am saying I'm allowed an
opinion. Got go to sleep said, bro, no fingers in the public in the bubbles in public only at home.
Oh, bro, it doesn't matter. I'm kind of I'm kind of I'm not on that one. I'm like, I would not do
that at the fountain, but I do it. I'm not pouring it back up into the tap. No one else is doing
it. It's to me. It's less about that. It's just more like you're out and you're touching things
than I'm going to put that finger in the drink. Oh, that that's fine. Yeah, I'm with you. It's
not a freak out thing, but I don't ever do it when I'm at the when I'm in line at a fast food
place or at a gas station, however, I but I do it at home all the time. I do it because I feel
the the eyes of the other people burning into the back of my shoulder. Yeah, they got to get
they got to get a kind of diffuse the pressure. And I am I my only concern is moving as fast as
possible. Yeah, it is a weird thing, but I don't in a lot of ways when there's a line, I feel like,
okay, well, like when I'm at the drive-through, there are people that are you serious? How does it
take you this long? How does it take you this long to make your order? And then when they get up to
the window, they get this tiny little mini bag in a drink. Like literally, they ordered nothing,
but it took them forever to get through ordering nothing. I feel that way about the drive through a
lot. I might feel that way a little bit about being in line in the person that's like
going through the whole menu and like, what's the what's the fish sandwich like? And then
all right, what about the chicken? And like, okay, it's a fast food place, man, it's going to be a
chicken sandwich or a fish sandwich or a burger. It's not going to be crazy. But at the fountain,
I never feel like I never feel like the person in front of me is going too slow. And I don't know why,
but but I because it feels like it's the normal right thing that, hey, look, you got to get those
last three shots. Yeah, because if you don't, you're not getting a full cup. And I can respect that.
Okay, okay, question. You're just about filled up. Yeah, there are one or two people behind you,
at least. Uh-huh. You're just about filled up and you hit the carbonation pocket.
We're suddenly you've got an enormous overflubble. And you know that it's going to be a vastly
inferior soda at that point because you've got a huge, that huge influx of water and carbonation
and nothing else. Are you dumping and starting over? Yes. Okay. I depends on where it is. I will tell
I am in the filling process, right? Like I may not dump it all, but I will get rid of all that and
then try to start over when it recess. Oh, you won't dump it all. Not if I was near the end when
that happened. That happens at the beginning. In this scenario, you are near the end. Yeah, yeah.
You guys know, I went to Christian school. Yeah. There was, uh, you know, QT was just as popular
then as it is now. And there was a young man who went to the school who came in and started
witnessing one day. And he was like, I have made the decision to stop taking sips of my QT soda
and then refilling. You know, you'll go in and you'll fill a little bit. It gets a little too close
to the top. Well, that's the second part of the routine because if you get too close to the top,
the lid will close and spill. Exactly. And maybe you drank a little too much and you want to get
it back to where it should be. But you could also see, you know, maybe if you're in high school,
you go and you get your soda. Oh, I'll take a couple of sips and then refill and go pay.
I've been guilty of that many times in the past. The Lord had, I guess, laid it on his heart
that that was stealing. Oh, and he was trying to get all of us to agree to not do that anymore,
either. I mean, if you were to like pound the whole thing and refill it, that's clearly, but like a
couple of sips. Come on. I don't, yeah, I don't think you can just deal a penny. Yeah, I'm just
here in victimless crime. Even if you just chucked the whole thing, the owner of QT would be like,
yeah, you can, you can, that's fine. That's not a big deal. I mean, you can do that right there in
front of the employees are not going to say anything. Just obviously just don't like gulp it and
then go back for more. I'll do that. I mean, even if I'll do that, I will say this. I will do
that at the restaurants where it's free refills. 100%. Of course. Sure. But that's free refills. I'm
not breaking any rules. One thing I've never been able to do is the, because this is stealing,
but the deception of asking for a water cup and then filling it up with. Oh, yeah, I would sometimes
be having a meal like again, like in high school with someone doing that. And I would be like,
they're going to find out. The cops are going to be here at any moment. We're all going to
juby. Have you guys ever dine in dashed? No. No, it's stealing. Oh, yeah, me neither.
You know, the server probably had to pay for it. I know. First of all, no, I don't think
that's how it works. Second of all, uh, it might be. It was, I only did it like three or four times
in high school. Oh, yeah, I thought it made a robbed restaurants three or four times. Okay,
robbed restaurants. All right. Stealing. I didn't pay for my four dollar, uh, whatever steak
burger, whatever it's taking shape. So I want to see Andrew have a conversation with the young
man who wanted to get us all the stoptaken sips. I want to see how that would go. The different
trains of logic colliding. I mean, in high school, I would have, I don't like dumps us books or
something. I would have called them in there. Then I would have, then I want to take it up to
steak and shake and force them to leave without paying. Man, Andrew, you know, or you were walking
the razor's edge of going down the dark side. Well, I mean, I knew I wasn't. I knew I wasn't
going to like do actually bad things. I didn't feel awful about running out on steak and shake
a couple of times. All right. Sure.
All right. It's DGS on a Tuesday, Dave on vacation this week. He's down in Jupiter doing
the spring training thing with buddy is buddy Michael Kelly. And of course, Tom Ackerman's down
there and Claves and Ricky and the gang and they're all hanging out just doing cool Jupiter, Florida
stuff jerks. I'm glad they're having a good time out on the golf course at the ballpark at all
the restaurants. I'm glad they're having a good time and look forward to hearing Dave tell us the
stories when he's back next week. But we're just going to hang tight and keep doing our normal thing
here on DGS. And that includes bringing in our buddy Brad Young, who is the show's legal analyst
and also a political analyst as well. What's up, Brad? How you doing today? Well, you know,
you and I are here while everybody else is in paradise. I get it. Yeah. It's feeling pretty
paradise. I see these last couple days though. It's got nice 80 degrees. That's true. It's just not
there's no palm trees. There's no ocean. There are no cardinals baseball. But it's one besides all
of that. Yeah. It's like other than that. We're killing it. It's pretty great. All right. So you
always send us a couple of things that that you're interested in talking about. I'm really interested
in the ticket master story. So why don't you lay that out for us and kind of get us going? Because
I think this is something that impacts literally everybody that's going to sporting events, concerts,
and all that. Well, we all know that like 10 years ago, live nation bought ticket master.
Right. And once they did, they secured literally, I mean, it meets all the definitions of the
monopoly. They owned, they had bundling contracts with the venues. They owned the sales of the tickets.
They had exclusive contracts with the artists. And there were fines and penalties if anyone used
any venue other than those that were operated by or contractually run by live nation. So it
met all the definitions of a monopoly. So the Department of Justice several years ago filed
the lawsuit. That case went to trial started going to trial last week. It was announced late last
night early this morning that the Department of Justice has reached a settlement with live nation
which would end the Department of Justice's attempt to break up live nation into separate pieces.
So this is a loss for a lot of people then because from my understanding, the story you sent to
us explains it pretty well that there are still a lot of states that are continuing to pursue this
like individual states and there they appear to be worried that the US government pulling out of
this will damage what it looks like to Jerry's because obviously, you know, this might be,
I don't know, a done deal from the federal perspective, but it's still something that needs to be
addressed. It is wheels. And what's interesting is, and I'm going to try not to dive too deeply
into the weeds here. So people stay awake. But essentially under the Sherman Act and the Clayton
Act, those are the two laws that make up the federal law when it comes to monopolies. Under both
of those acts, states who have their own version of the Sherman Act can also pursue their own concurrent
litigation against companies. So that means that even though the DOJ has reached a settlement,
even though that's probably going to be a done deal from a federal perspective, states are still
empowered to move forward. And I looked at the states that are going to move forward. And it's not,
and I always love pointing these things out because all too often we think it's red versus blue.
It's right versus left. It's Democrat versus Republican. But if you look at the states that are
going to continue on Tennessee, which is about as red as it gets and also New York and Illinois,
blue as it gets, you've got other states that are on the blue. Oh, hi, oh, right. So this is
not a right versus left issue. And at least in my mind, it's an issue of when you have a monopoly,
if I owned every part of the production of light bulbs, I owned the plants that made the physical
minerals that go into light bulbs, I owned the glass blowing plants, and I owned the distribution.
I could charge anything I want for light bulbs because I have no competition.
Right. And so, so in this instance, I think we saw in the biggest hiccup was, was with
Taylor Swift a couple of years ago. Right. But there's no question that these ticket sales,
the cost is outrageous. The cost go up because there's been no competition. And I've got all the
terms of the settlement here with the DOJ. But really, I think that's kind of bandaid on,
as putting a bandaid on the issue, because as long as live nation owns ticket master,
to some extent, these same issues will continue. So what did they accept? What, what did the United
States government decide was an acceptable settlement here? Well, the acceptable settlement is $300
million that goes to the states who agree to accept the settlement. And so that gets $300 million
each or just chunks of $300 million in total, that's then divided up between the various states.
Almost 30 states. It's almost 30 states that are signed onto this. I think it's 28 states that
are signed on. So you're, you're looking at roughly 10 million per state. Also,
chicken master, it's not, that's, that's nothing. It's nothing.
Ticket master has to offer a standalone ticketing system that they are required by the terms of
the settlement to allow like seat, seat geek or stub hub or event bright or others can use the
same standalone system to sell tickets as ticket master, because ticket master has to make it open
for these other companies. And they also have to, they only have a four-year limit on exclusivity
contracts. And after that, they cannot have exclusivity contracts with artists. So that's kind
of the, the biggest. There's some other minor things like the ticketing service fee is
capped at 15% of the ticket price. That's one thing that would really lower prices, because oftentimes
those fees were much, much higher than 15%. So there is benefit here for the consumer. I don't
want to walk away from that. There is definitely a benefit in this settlement for the consumer.
I just think that by, by charging them money and, and making some changes around the edges of
the problem, doesn't get away from the fact that ticket master live nation is still essentially
a monopoly. So political hat now from legal hat, Brad, why would they do this? Why would the department
of justice cut them such a sweetheart deal when their partners in this, these 28 other states
are not okay with it. In fact, and the story you sent us, the judge wasn't okay with it. The
judge said it was, it was horribly inadequate. Right. Right. And so this is, I don't see how this
is a good settlement. There's two, I see two possible, two possible reasons or answers to your
question wheels. First is, is legal based in the second is conspiratorial. Okay. The first legal
based, anytime you reach a settlement, it's because at least from an attorney's perspective,
you think you're going to do better in a settlement than you would do if you take it to trial.
So perhaps the attorneys thought we're not going to be able to prove that they are a complete
monopoly. And so let's cut our losses and get the best deal we can. Right. Secondly, the
conspiratorial is, is that the current administration said, well, we favor big companies and we don't
want to bust up a big company. Now, I have no information on that. I have no inside knowledge,
but those are the two explanations that I can come up with. Fair enough. I don't know that they
either are great, but they are what they are. All right. Let's move over to the Missouri Supreme
Court. You sent us this story. It's about a challenge over redistricting. Right. Now, traditionally,
historically redistricting has always happened once every 10 years after the United States census.
That's by habit and by practice. But this year, several states, including Missouri,
started doing what they call mid-decade congressional redistricting. And just in case folks don't know,
congressional redistricting is where you recarve up the lines and you can determine who gets to vote
for what people, whether it's for the US Senate or the US Congress. And so, Missouri tried this.
They've they've decided to try to do mid-decade congressional redistricting. The Supreme Court is
hearing oral arguments on this literally right now as we speak. So I don't know. It'll be a while
before we get an opinion, but it's being argued right now. Fascinating. Brad, you mind you mind.
It's not a curveball, but you mind a pitch you might not have expected. Oh, never. I always love it.
Stump the lawyers my favorite game. Well, I shouldn't stop you. I think we brought it up when you're
on with the whole group of us, including Dave. It might have been a while back. But today, again,
my keynote on his official Twitter account put this out there. He said, Missouri's tax code was
built for the past 100 years. Our economy demands one for the next 100 years. It's time to phase out
and eliminate Missouri's individual income tax and a, just your general reaction to the idea and
be any idea how we, we, we, we, we cover those lost revenues and what, like, what's the end game
to, to doing this? Yeah. None of us are going to complain if we don't have to pay quote unquote
income tax, but that revenue is going to have to be found somewhere, which means we're going to pay
for it another way, right? True. Let me answer your second question first. Okay. And that is that
how do you replace the income? Because if Missouri does away with the state income tax,
that's a very, very large portion of all state revenues. So we just saw recently that that
Missouri was running a deficit. And you think, well, we're not bringing enough money. How do we
solve this problem? Oh, let's eliminate our major revenue source. Okay. I mean, from from that
perspective, it doesn't seem very wise. You know, I'm, I'm in bankruptcy. What should I do? Oh,
I should go spend more money. So, but what the state has proposed in this plan is to supplant
the income tax with a higher state sales tax. So at that point, everything that you buy in the
state of Missouri, the price would go up, whether that's gasoline, food, concert tickets, anything
is going to go up, would go up under this plan in order to bring in revenue to compensate
for the loss of the income tax revenue. So why bother? I mean, you're going to be, you're going
to be taking the same amount of money, probably because a barring significant budget cuts,
you're taking the same amount of money from the same group of people, the people who live in the
state of Missouri. Because to me, the only people that benefit from what you described are the wealthy
people. Well, let me put the average person is he's going to get that not going to have the
income tax, but you're going to pay at least as much on every other thing that you buy. Correct.
So why what's the what's the point, unless we're just serving the special interest of people
that are incredibly wealthy? The point is this and and I don't necessarily agree with this,
but let me give you the the non-spend point. If you look at this concept of enterprise zones,
for example, if we turn the city of St. Louis into an enterprise zone where taxes are not paid
on on money that you make in the city of St. Louis, people would flock there under the under
this theory and it could revitalize the city of St. Louis because entrepreneurs would have a
financial incentive to locate their businesses in the city in order to grow their taxes their businesses
tax-free. That's the same idea that they're wanting to do with the state of Missouri that you'll
have entrepreneurs or business owners will want to move to Missouri because of the no income tax
and therefore if they move their businesses here, more people have jobs, more ancillary companies
can provide goods and services and it grows the overall economy. Here's the problem with that theory.
Kansas has done that and it hasn't produced any tangible benefits. Right and they did it how long
ago? It was a good one. It was a good one. Like 10 years ago. Yeah, I think it's closer to five.
It was right five. Okay. Okay. It was right. It was maybe right before COVID so 106. But
but it really hasn't shown at least not the data that I've seen. It hasn't shown that it's grown
the state of Kansas in any significant way more than it would have grown if he did nothing. So those
are the two sides of the coin. Yeah, it's fascinating to me because I know a lot of states have it
this way, right? And the big one that we hear the comp to is Tennessee. But because it's regionally
close and it's you know, it's not like it's not Florida, right? It's not it's not Arizona.
It's not a big retirement area, although probably is more so than than other places. But we don't have
something that Nashville has or that Tennessee has, which is Nashville. We don't have a booming
music scene. We don't have a booming creative area. That's one of the fastest growing cities in
the eastern part of the country. And we need to to me, it just seems to make more sense to have
those things kind of lined up first before we start. And again, I think you're right in the long
term in a perfect world. That's how it would work. But as you point out, Kansas shows that it's not
always a perfect world. Right. So I think it's like in so many things wheels instead of having
an all or nothing, either we have all income tax or no income tax, once you set up no income tax
enterprise zones in the most depressed areas. So you get the benefit of having people
locate and relocate into those areas like the city of St. Louis, like North St. Louis in particular.
But you don't do it for the entire state so that you don't rock the state's budget.
At least from that perspective, you would kind of get the best of both worlds if you could make
that middle ground case legally. Yeah. And it's just a fascinating thing too, because I need to do
more work on this and look into some research on kind of like what percentage of people's income
they actually spend based on their income level, right? So what percentage of your income do you
actually spend when you're at 50,000, 100,000 versus a million or 10 million or whatever? Because
that kind of tells you who's going to take the biggest kick in the teeth and who's going to get the
biggest short term benefit, not even counting the potential for the long term that you described.
That's true. And at least in theory, wrapping this up, at least in theory, even rich people would
pay more in sales tax because they buy more stuff. So they buy more as a representation of their
of their actual income, right? So they could spend more than me, but they make 10 times as much as
me. If they spend five times as much of me, they still get a big net victory. That's true.
Well, we'll see how it turns out. Brad, you're the best man. Thank you. All right. Thanks wheels.
All right. DGS on a Tuesday. Dave's still on vacation. He'll be back next Monday. The rest of us
are continuing on as usual. Andrew, step to the mic, sir. What? You had the most ridiculous
door dash order last night. Dude, all right. So I'm like, I'm not complaining. Can I pause for a
second? You know that when a guy is telling a story, if the first thing he says is dude, it's
going to be a story. It's going to be a big story. Proceed. I don't even know this is a good
story enough, but I couldn't get over it. And like, you know, I go out with my wife. And so,
why would we door dash? I'm going out. You guys know, I'm going out with my wife.
She has a part of it at some point in the last 15 years. Yeah. You know, my wife are seeing each
other. But no, so I door dashed with my wife. And she was like, let it go.
So we picked up. Basically, the story is we picked up from a place. And it was a decent
paying order. So they left like an okay tip. All right. And we picked up from a place. And
where it was going was literally behind the restaurant, like one street back. It was going.
Okay. So I never I never lost sight of the restaurant. It was like 0.2 miles away from
the restaurant. I never like I could see like the whole time. And I'm telling this to my wife,
which is why she's like, stop. Who cares? Let it go. We're getting money. Oh, they're paying us.
Yeah. What do you care? And the whole time, I'm just like, it's right there.
Well, maybe they were sick. They didn't want to go out.
It was right there. I got to be honest with you. I feel like I want to be team
Andrew on this one, but team Rachel just made a good point. If it's somebody that's sick or maybe
it's just somebody that doesn't get around very well. Yeah. That would make sense. But otherwise,
it's wild. It's wild. Like, I guess it's wild, but they are paying you to do it.
You know, I said, like, get it for me for free. Like, okay, that would be messed up. And that's
a way. That's what Megan kept saying. Megan kept pointing out that, you know, we're being paid
for this. Yeah. I mean, it's not a it's not a horror story, but I would agree it's bizarre.
It is bizarre. I wouldn't say it's a good, like a bad thing or even a good thing. I mean,
maybe it is a good thing. Again, if it's somebody that has a hard time leaving the house,
but it still bizarre. I would have called the restaurant. I would have said place it,
place it in a bag, put that bag in like a cardboard box you got in the back and then just go out
behind the restaurant and whip it, whip it over hand in the direction of my house.
So use the mouse throwing technique and it will get there just as well. Yeah, that's weird.
I'm like, even if it was for good reason, it's still a weird thing. Like, you're picking up a
delivery and you're like, you're like eight steps away. It's not honestly, and the reason that I
extra shouldn't complain is because a lot of times you get a you get an order, you pick it up,
and then you find out it's going like 20 minutes in a direction that you don't want to go,
like 20 minutes farther from your house or whatever it is. And that's always a huge bummer.
The best possible thing is that you pick up from a place and it's 0.2 miles away. You know,
time is money. So thank you to that person, but at the same time, this sounds like a sweetest deal ever.
It was the best delivery I've ever done. It saved you in gas money. But at the same time,
it was crazy. It's delivering it like here you go, you lazy.
But thanks for the money. Great.
All right, it's DGS on a Tuesday. Dave is out. He's down and Jupiter doing the guy's trip.
So basically he and Michael Kelly are doing a guy's buddy movie down there going to baseball games,
going out to eat, playing golf, doing the whole thing. Glad he's having fun. Dave will be back
on Monday. The rest of us holding down the fort. A buddy Alex Riches in studio. Alex,
first of all, I don't know exactly how to introduce you because you're a man of many
duties here. This has always been so obviously you work in the quote front office here at
Odyssey St. Louis, but you also pop on the air and right. So how should we introduce?
And then, uh, well, earlier I was introduced as host of Jews in the Lou because I do the podcast.
You got a podcast as well. Um, I got, um, I'm promoting something right now that I'm the musician for.
So you are, let's just put it so you're, you're, you're, you're an exact,
kind executive that does a podcast appears on the radio, place music and does events. Yeah,
I think that promoter would qualify me as maybe like a utility guy. A St. Louis utility player.
Yeah. Um, I don't like to say like public figure because it's, it's kind of like a good.
I makes me think that like maybe I think a little too highly of myself. So I don't want to give,
give myself too much credit there. I guess you, but around here, you're a man of many duties.
Yeah, that's fair enough. I honestly, I think there's a lot of people in this building that don't
know if I'm actually an on air guy or a sales guy. Well, I mean, aren't you both? Yeah,
the sales pays the bills. There you go. Yeah. There you go. That's, that's probably your best
way to put it. So, but I always like coming in hanging out with you guys. Yeah. Look, I mean,
I, so Alex, I knew Alex, you were an intern in the sports department here at St. Louis when you
were in college playing baseball at India. Yeah. Yeah. And as a, as a, as a catcher and I was a
college catcher long before you were, but we had a, we got, we got to, we got long pretty well,
I think in part because we had that same common background. Definitely. And actually,
this is, I think my first opportunity being on with you since what I'm about to say, but I,
I think I have to do it. No, you do. I know exactly what you're going to say. I know,
he's going to paint you. And it's okay because I'm happy for you. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it.
We talked a little bit off the air about this, but it was, uh, it was cool, man. It was,
it was awesome. It was a great experience. Alex and then our buddy Tom Akerman, those are two
IU alums in the building. Do we have any others? I know you're the two that I know. I don't think
anybody else in the building. So you guys are the ones that I, that I know. And obviously, we
had a little back and forth fun. Of course, fun. But that's the first time I've ever been,
as a Miami fan, we've, we've played for championships many times. This is the first time I didn't walk
out of a losing a championship game, feeling like I hated the opponent. You felt like, okay, like,
they, it was a great, it's a great game. Totally. It's a hard team to hate in Indiana. Right.
And two people I like like them. So it's kind of weird to be better. Yeah. And I mean, like,
look, if you're like from the outside perspective, looking at a Fernando Mendoza,
how can you really say a bad thing? He's too smiley. That's like when you go to a job interview,
you're like, tell me a negative. And you're like, I care too much. He smiles too much. He's too happy.
He's too happy. So congratulations. Thank you. I appreciate it. You guys put up a great fight. And
hopefully we'll, you know, talk like that. I mean, it's not like little brother took a shot at big
brother. I'll be honest with you. That last, that last drive of the game, I'm confident that if we
didn't have that interception, if Carson Beck didn't throw that pin, the lab, I'm confident you
guys would have scored on the next play of the game. And the whole season would have been
decided by one point. Yeah. But it was entertaining and fun. And again, no hate like I hate Ohio
state after losing the after the fiesta bowl way back in the day. Like I can't stand. I have less
hate for Alabama now because my kid went there, but always had some hate for them because they'd be
this in a title game. I don't have that for Indiana. So yeah, you're all good, buddy. Well, I
appreciate it. But yeah, which means you're welcome in studio for this. Thank you. I appreciate
you having us. And yeah, I'm talking about 314. So tell us what's going on because obviously 314
days coming up this weekend, a lot of different activities around town. Tell us about what you're
promoting a ton. And honestly, this year, I think there's more than there has been, which is
cool to see like how 314 day has grown, right? It's like not an actual holiday, right? But it's like
each city has something that they can kind of get behind a weekend in that city that they can kind
of get behind. It's not related to sports that's not related to any of the teams in the city. It's
just about the city. And that's what we're doing this weekend is my friend, our friend Shorty and I.
Shorty was on hot 104.1 for a long time. He's been on radio since he was 12 years old in the market.
So Shorty's awesome. Him and I kind of partnered up a few months back looking at what we could do
differently for 314 day. So it's on a Saturday this year, obviously, which makes it great. But the
entire week leading up, there's so many different events. Restaurants are doing different things,
different specials everywhere. But we wanted to take this as an opportunity to say, like, look,
St. Louis is the reality of St. Louis is it is a very like at times segregated community, right?
Like everybody has the burbs versus the city. And it's totally and everything else.
County versus St. Louis County. It's all very divided. Exactly. And when geographically city,
people don't want to go to St. Charles County. St. Charles County. Don't want to go to the city.
Like it's that all that stuff. Exactly. And so I think we kind of wanted to partner up and say,
like, let's do something where everybody can come together. We've partnered with together credit
union on this. And it's literally 314 together. It doesn't matter who you are, how old you are,
well, 21 plus obviously. You got to be older. No, no, no. It doesn't matter how old you are.
I mean, I expect that like there would be, you know, 25 year olds and 60 year olds at this.
And we wanted to put together something that was going to have a little bit of a twist,
whether you're black, white, whatever community that you're a part of, it does not matter.
We wanted to offer something for everybody. So there's DJs in the outside garden area. So
if you want to sit and have a beer, listen to music there, there's like a club aspect of it.
It's all at ballpark village. You enter at the Ava beer garden outside there. So that was new
last year, which is an awesome, awesome venue. The weather looks like it's going to be incredible
this weekend. You enter there and there'll be three different levels. So ballpark village literally
said, let's really get behind this thing and do Ava beer garden, crown hall, crown room on the
second floor. And then even the bud deck on the very top rooftop deck up there, different DJs
on each level. My band is going to be playing with special guests throughout the day in crown hall
on the stage. So we got like, you know, my saxophone players coming in from out of town. He's
going to be joining us for full band. We got a saxophone player too. Do you? I just never call him
in because he just play for you when he's here. Yeah, I just call him and he plays over the phone.
Makes me feel like I love everybody loves a good saxophone everyone. But it's we want to bring
the energy we want to do like, yeah, live band type thing. But we want to do something that everybody
can like think that is cool. So you can flow to which one you like. Yeah. And like, look,
we have like a whole like acoustic, not acoustic, because it's full band. But we got like a full band
Nelly live cover set that like shorties, shorties and artists themselves. So like, we're going to
get up do like all the San Luis classics that people like, but like our own version of those.
And it's $10 entry part of that goes to the 314 day foundation, which was started. I think this
is now the 20th year, actually, that we're celebrating the actual 314 day foundation. But it kind
of is a fund that helps put together different scholarships for kids and people in the community,
so that they're able to do different things and fund different activities or ventures that
they that they have and that the city can get behind. But yeah, I mean, like, honestly, it's
it's it's one of those things where when you do an event, you really don't want to over complicate
things. Like, there's really not a ton more to it other than like, we are just really getting
the city together. And we really just want to show that you don't need a sporting event downtown
to get people to come downtown. You like, we get parking is an issue. Like, we understand.
We understand people come down or have different hesitations about coming down. And like, this is
an opportunity to show San Luis through a day party that starts at 314 in the afternoon,
goes in through the evening up until about nine o'clock. And then there's other activities. But,
you know, you can really make a day of it. And there's a St. Patrick's Day. That's also going
on this weekend. But St. Patrick's Day is downtown. So it's kind of like a full day of events.
So if you're going to the parade, you come over to ballpark village afterwards, celebrate 314 day.
And then just kind of keep the day going. I say, you know, come on down, come hang out with us. But
you know, it's kind of, it's just a way to champion the city. I always think that San Luis,
we know this. Like, St. Louis gets in St. Louis's way pretty much at times. And that's like,
what stops us from leveling up to, I think the next level, the next extreme of like,
what we're capable of. And so I love St. Louis, Shorty, Love, St. Louis, and the ideas. Like,
it's really cool because Rachel mentioned like social media is a big play on this. If you go
through and see like the comments on the social media, it's like so much love for the city.
And like, people are super excited that there is something that you just go hang out. And yeah,
it's 10 bucks. But like, if you leave the house, you're going to spend 10 bucks doing just about
anything these days. So like, why not come down and enjoy yourself, meet people that you haven't
met before. Like experience things that you maybe haven't experienced before that's outside of
your normal sitting on the porch, having a look, we all like to hang out at our house. Like,
just kind of keep to ourselves at times. But like, it's an opportunity to get out,
meet new people, bring friends down. And again, if you like DJ music, if you like live music,
if you like no music, but you just want to sit on a rooftop and look out at Bush Stadium,
literally we have all of those things for everybody. All right, where can people find the info?
There's more information. I know we just posted it on the stream to Facebook and YouTube.
It's vstl.com has information about all the events actually leading up the entire week.
Okay. But there's information there on on our event for Saturday. But yeah, again,
you know, all you need to do is make a plan to come on down. It'll kick off at 3.14 p.m.
And we're going to celebrate Saint Louis, dude. Awesome, dude. Thanks for the info.
Yep. I appreciate you, Alex. Thanks for thanks for having me and hope to see you there.
All right, brother.
That's Tuesday on DGS. We've got the crew hanging out.
Doing the work. Dave Glover on vacation. Dave will be back on Monday.
Rach, you caught my attention on the sheet today.
I'll let you lay it out because I don't want to. I mean, it's I think what we're saying is telling
the truth that it may sound mean to some people, but I think the truth needs to be told.
And it's when people don't seem to grasp how old they are versus how they look.
Well, there's this big trend right now that I've seen particularly on like Instagram and
on TikTok and it'll be women. And a lot of them are my age.
Are there dudes doing it too? Not as much. I feel like when I see the guys doing it,
they're being they're like intentionally trolling. I got you. I got you.
But you'll see ladies posting and they'll be like, I'm 35, but I look 20 and it's because of
these skincare techniques I use. And I don't know if it's just a drive engagement because so
many people will comment and be like, you don't look 20. Like I would actually I would challenge
anyone to find me a 34 year old who actually looks 20 years old. It's such a silly thing to say.
And oftentimes these women are very beautiful, but they'd look the age that they are. And I'm
here to tell you that is perfectly fine because that is the age that you are. That is the fact of
the matter. This like weird obsession we have with I want to look good. Therefore I want to look
15 years younger than I am. That's futile. You're never going to be able to like chase that and
pin that down and hold on to it. And the more you put your value into like looking young,
it's it is eventually going to go away. But then there's this weird like offshoot of that where
it's like reverse body dysmorphia where people are thinking they look younger than they actually
are and then putting it out there for the rest of society to discuss and it's like, what are you
talking about? There's a dude version of this. What's that? Have you heard the term looks
maxing? Oh yes. So what you really what you have is essentially a bunch of dudes and they're young.
I haven't seen anybody that looks like they're older than their 20s doing this. But they use all
these very questionable techniques that are supposed to give you a stronger jawline by like punching
yourself in the face. Oh wow. Yeah. And they do various things. They like they'll show up on
other guys accounts and they try to like hog the picture and they try to get in there. But they're
like big bodybuilding type. I mean workout guys. But like they're good looking guys. But they're
insanely obsessed with like looks maxing. And everything is about how do I how do I make this
part of my jawline even better and how do I and then they want to compare and they want to like
one up each other. I guess it's kind of the way it goes. Such a bizarre thing to me. Like you
want to do what makes you happy. That's it's fine. But like a make sure what you're doing is like
medically safe. Right. There are a lot of those things that those guys are doing that are not
medically safe. And most people that are doctors will tell you it's not going to do what you think
it's going to do anyway. But it's the same dynamic. It's these guys that are just obsessed
with being, I guess you could say the best looking person in any room they walk into.
Are you looking to master Max or can I'm a total look Max or that's why you're always working.
Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly right. I punched myself in the face all the time to get that jawline
right. Well, it just feels like everything that I was taught as a child. The internet has just
completely erased all of these lessons. One of those lessons being it's on the inside that counts.
Right? Like, don't judge it both by its cover. It's more important than external beauty. Well,
that's obviously not true. That's people seem to prioritize external beauty above all else.
To the point where it's like, oh, if you do actually look at your age, then people are like,
oh, she looks terrible. Are you even trying? Yeah, exactly. Another one of those lessons being
sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me. It's like, no, it seems like
we all get really riled up about words all of the time. I don't know. It's just sad. And the whole
thing, there's also like such a lack of humility there whenever you're like, I'm 40, but I look
25. It's like, okay, you're kind of not allowed to say that about yourself. Good point. That's
something that others should say to you. Exactly. It's way better when it's made as a compliment,
but it's also not like literally true. Yeah, they're just be nice. It's like, you look really good
for your age, which sounds like a backhanded compliment, right? Right. But it is a compliment.
But we've just completely lost the thread. And now it's like, you know what? I think I look 13.
I'm going to post that on the internet. And then they're like shocked when people disagree with
them. I don't know. Is this a weird thing? So I had a friend text me and I'm asking for a friend,
what if you're somebody that doesn't worry about whether you look younger, but you act like
you're 30 years younger than you are? Is that weird? Hey, I like appreciate you being up.
I'm asking for a friend. It's for me. Maxing. Yeah, mindset. Max. Yeah, what would we call that?
I got to we got to come up with a name for it. That way I can we can do it on the TikTok and
get some get some engagement. Youth maxing. Youth maxing. Yeah, but that's going to people are
going to imply looks from that. Kevin Maxing. Yeah. Joel says I'm 38 and I look 48.
I bet you don't. I bet you look exactly your age. Most people like I think 35 look like a corpse
family in the room. Most people nobody looks like a very specific age, right? Nobody looks 32.
Nobody looks 45. But you can look like a range, right? Like to me, people tend to look like,
okay, if you look like you're in your 20s, I think that's a there's some similarities there.
Maybe early to mid 20s and then late 20s early 30s. That's a range. And you usually I think you
can fall within like a four or five year range. And that's what's normal. Right? Yeah, but you're
not you're never going to be able to pull off like the 20 year thing people. No, if you're 35,
trust me, you don't look 20. It's just ridiculous. Come on now.
The Dave Clever Show is sponsored by the Michaels Floor and Outlet, the flooring experts. I got
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though, but you got me, Rachel Zimmerman, Kevin Wheeler, Andrew Stolls, holding down the fort.
And we have a guest on the line. I want to tell you guys about this event. It's uncorked for a cause,
a wine and beer tasting events for the Boys and Girls Club of Alton and their meals for kids
programs going on this Friday, March 13th at Bluff City Grill in downtown Alton. And I am joined
now by the executive director of the Boys and Girls Club of Alton, Al Womack. Al, thanks for
joining the show. Hey, thanks for having me. So Al, tell us a little bit about the Boys and Girls Club
to get started. I feel like the Boys and Girls Club is something that you hear a lot about,
like maybe you see it in passing, but maybe some people don't realize what it is that the Boys
and Girls Club actually does. So, so Boys and Girls Club is available for kids throughout the
community, open throughout the after school season, as well as summer. And schoolers out clubs are
in. So, we're all about development and taking care of kids. They sort of have a safe place to
learn and grow. So, that's kind of this overview of, and then once kids come through the door,
they're met with warm smiles. We have a nice meal ready for them. A lot of recreational activities,
followed by some learning and educational activities, team building, leadership development,
care to development. You name it. We're trying to develop the whole child. That is awesome,
especially, you know, in this day and age, there's not a lot of third places out there. There's
not a lot for kids to do. So, I love that the Boys and Girls Club provides this positive environment.
Al, from what I understand, you are quite a beloved figure in the Olden community. I'm wondering
how did you get involved with the Boys and Girls Club of Olden and how long have you been doing this?
Wow. I'm happy to be in the position that I'm in, honestly. This is my 29th year
at the position of being the CEO or Executive Director. It every day is a new day. I couldn't
think of anything else I'd rather be doing than walking through these doors every day
because I have an opportunity to make a difference in the life of the child. So, I love what we do
here. It's gone into my lap several several years ago. I was working on our local school district and
I wasn't familiar with Boys and Girls Club and someone said, hey, you should check out the Boys and Girls Club.
And, you know, after a month or two of putting it off, I walked through the doors and I saw
50 kids running around playing the screen and that reminded me of myself. It says a kid that needed
some guidance and direction, but still want that fun to be a kid. So, it just brought back so many
memories that I walked into the door and I've been involved ever since. I love that. What's it
been like for you to, you know, over the course of 29 years, I'm sure you get to know these kids,
you get to see them grow, you get to see them benefit from these programs? What is that like to kind
of to watch that play out? It's amazing. And again, you know, I'll go back in credit community
and the people that work for us like that. Those are the different makers. I'm just in a position
that I'm in. But watching kids grow and develop, I've been fortunate enough to have a couple of
generations come through. So, I'm seeing I'm still fairly young, but I'm seeing some grandkids of,
you know, people that I've been able to work with. The bigger blessing though is you've been
able to put kids or younger adults in the position to go off to college and receive a free education
or to receive some scholarship that have offset the cost of pursuing higher education. So,
that's probably the most rewarding. That is so cool to hear. Al, let's talk about this event
uncorked for a cause at Bluff City Grill, Mount that is such a great restaurant in downtown Alton.
Tell us about this wine and beer tasting event and what people can expect.
Yes. So, we're in our ninth year hosting this event and it continues to grow. Definitely a
popular event in our community. The owner of Bluff City Grill, Kathy Gross, has been amazed in
for us. She offers her place to us for this event. We, you know, we generate quite a bit of
money just based on the sponsorship and people showing up. It's a wine tasting, so there's one
else for, or, you know, the attendees. We also have some beer opportunities for attendees that
cannot necessarily be in the wine. We are fortunate enough to get some area of restaurant
to also offer a sampling of some of their most popular dishes. So, you know, it's an
opportunity to come and go network sample some wines or beers and sample some food from area
restaurant. Awesome. And people can get tickets at bgcalton.org. We will put up a link to that
in our chat on our on our Facebook stream that we're doing right now, our Facebook and YouTube
stream. Al, before I let you go, how can people get involved with the Boys and Girls Club of
Alton in other ways? Let's say they can't make it out to this event. What would you suggest people
do if they want to help out? I would ask them to go to the website bgcalton.org and we have
a volunteer application on there with just even completing that application to inquire about,
you know, ways to get involved. There's a lot of opportunities listed. We follow up with a
phone call or email. That's probably the easiest way for if you have listeners that are
wanting to grab their phones. 618-462-6249. Give us a call. I'm happy to talk with anyone.
Or even just to support us, you know, you can go to that website and make a generous contribution
to the Boys and Girls Club. Make it different than a life of a child.
That's Al Womack. He's the executive director of the Boys and Girls Club of Alton. Al,
thank you so much for joining us for telling us about the event, which is once again uncorked for a
cause. And just for educating us on what the Boys and Girls Club is all about, we thank you for your
time. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Let me post the the link to that
in the chat. Yeah. If people want to check that out, thank you out. That's very cool. Yeah. Let's see.
Boys and Girls clubs do such great work. Yes. Such great work. We've done a lot of stuff in the
over the years fundraising for various ones, including one in St. Louis. Very nice. You know,
people like that that donate that donate that that really kind of dedicate. That's the
where I was looking for. Dedicate their lives to helping kids and kids that are not their own.
Pretty great. It's pretty great. Totally agree. So obviously a worthwhile call. It sounds like a
fun event. Hopefully they'll, I don't know if there's a way to sell it out, but hopefully they
pack it. Yeah. And like I said, Bluff City Grill is cool. I know Andrew's eaten there a bunch.
So it's it's sure to be a good should we have a field trip at some point? I think we should.
I think we should cross the river. That's kind of forbidden in the St. Louis region, right?
When you live someplace, you don't cross rivers unless it's for work or a cardinals game.
All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. It's the Dave Glover show on KMOS.
All right. It's DGS on KMOS. Dave out back next week. And obviously the three of us,
Rachel Andrew and Kevin hanging out doing our thing. So we got Dave Murray coming up in a few
minutes. See if we're going to get blown away by storms at some point later on. Tom Ackerman will
join us at four o'clock for the latest from Jupiter. And then we'll have Redbird rush hour in the
five o'clock hour today. My buddy Derek Gould from the Post-Dispatch will join me to start that off.
So a lot of good stuff coming your way as we move through the day today.
Rachel, do you have, I meant to ask you this during the break and I forgot to do you have the audio
from Neil deGrasse Tyson that I had picked up there from yesterday? Yep. All right. So we're
going to play this a little bit. I think this is a fascinating, um, I think it's a fascinating
conversation. He's doing a podcast. I forget who's it is. I'm sorry. Um, but he's doing a podcast
and they're talking about how much human life changed in terms of our life expectancy
until we get to like the mid 1800s until we get to the mid 19th century. It's, to me,
it's just a very interesting, um, overview of what changed about 160, 170 years ago
that hadn't really changed much in the hundreds of thousands of years that came before.
When we were all in the caves, half of everyone born was dead before the age of 30. Jesus,
fast forward to 1840. Sure. That number went up to 35. Half of everyone born was dead by the time
they were 35. So in the tens of thousands of years between living in caves. Yeah. And the
middle of the 19th century, we got five years. Jesus. Okay. Since then, yeah, with advances in
medicine and everybody, everyone back then was eating organic. Just say it. And the water
was clear, the air rampier, the, the game was free range. Didn't make a damn bit of different
science matters here. Okay. All right. You can run around and eat all the organic you want. Okay.
You'd be dead by the 30 unless some doctor came in and said we can, we can increase your life
expectancy using science. You're directing this at me as if I'm RFK Jr. I'm not. I'm just
telling you I'm not. Hold me back. All right. When we were all in the caves. So it's a fascinating
point, right? That in tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of years, our life
expectancy is human beings, at least in that metric, right? Like half of the population dead by that
age, we really only improved five years in tens of thousands of years. And in the ensuing 150 to 170
years, we have pushed that number so far beyond the norm. And he's, and I think it's interesting
because when he says it's because of science, it's 100% that, but it's all kinds of sciences,
right? It's food science. We know how to grow crops better and more efficiently. It's transportation.
We can get the food and the medicines and the aid to people where, you know, 10,000 years ago,
it just wasn't happening. Heck, 400 years ago, 200 years ago, it wasn't happening. And certainly
not happening is fast. So you have the industrial revolution. That's a part of that. You have,
you know, improvements in farming and livestock raising and the ability of storage electricity.
How big of a deal is electricity just to keeping us alive longer, making sure that we have heat
and cool when we need it, making sure our food doesn't spoil because we have refrigerators.
I think that's such an interesting point that once we started to break through scientifically
in all of these categories. Yeah, it's, and it's medicine too. I'm sorry for some of you,
but it's vaccines too. It's all of these discoveries, treatments for various things, right?
In the past, just as an example, this is a loose example, right? There's your sports example.
You know, 100 years ago, if you hurt your elbow, you're done playing sports. You're done playing
baseball now. You just build a new elbow and you're fine. And it's the same idea across the board.
So if we, this is where I wanted to get to the point with you guys. So if we've come that far
in a century and a half, essentially, maybe a little bit more, right? Let's, let's just call it a
hundred and, well, let's call it a hundred 50 years. If we've come that far in 150 years,
where do we get in the next hundred to 150 years? Post scientific breakthrough with AI,
with supercomputing, with all of the things that are coming now, because we always know that there
is a negative two those things, right? We talk about the negatives of AI and the way it's used
to deceive people and all that. But it can also be a benefit to medical research and maybe speeding
some of those things up to the point where who knows what else we can deliver.
And yet, we have all these people out there. I love the joke about the organic and I don't want
to pick too many fights, but on this, but this idea that if you only ate it the way it originally
was, you'd be healthier. That everybody, everybody that studies food sciences, no, that's not true.
You might like it better. Maybe you have reactions to certain chemicals that you may not have
to others. Everybody's got different allergies and things along those lines. But the fact of the
matter is like, I know organic apple is no better for you than a regular one in terms of the health
and the nutrition that you're going to get out of it. But the point is that back then,
none of those things existed. Everybody quote unquote, ate clean. But yet half of people were dead
by the age of 35. And now we get nothing but you don't know about people need to eat clean,
you don't need to eat all this stuff. Yet we're living literally two to three two times as long
on average that as we used to. Imagine if we ate clean and took advantage of all of the
scientific. Well, I would say eat well, depending on how you mean clean, right? Like, I don't
think you're going to eat just by eating, for example, eating organics, not going to change anything
if you're still eating foods that are going to make you heavy and not are going to cause,
you know, if you're eating sugar, right? Sugar's real. It's clean. It's a normal thing. But if you
have too much of it, it's going to cause problems. But I find it fascinating that until we had these
breakthroughs, that impacted so many things. Again, you could think of it as well. It's medicine.
Sure. Yeah. Medicine's a big part of it. Surgical procedures, another big part of that,
that those two go together. But again, it's transportation storage, the understanding of how to
grow and what grows and where to grow and how we can grow more of it. And that includes sometimes,
you know, chemical innovations and things along those lines that in just a short amount of time,
we have made up so much ground. And I think it's really fascinating to figure out or think about
where it goes in 100 years. If it's been this much in 150 compared to the tens of thousands before,
and we keep, we're keeping told that it's all accelerating. Hold, can we live in that way?
If we keep going, I mean, could we all be like, can we get to the average of being 100?
Perhaps. Yeah, the average, the life expectancy, I would say average, but the life expectancy being
100, what is it now? 80? I think it's still like high 70s. Is it mid-dia 70s? Do you think we
could ever get to that place though? In what way? Like get to a place where we are all, you know,
where we have the life expectancy up that high. Well, it'll never be all, but it's going to be,
you know, the life expectancy of the quote average person. Bar and again, we know that the
expectancy, those things are weighted by an average because there are people that are going to die
young and there are people that are going to live to be 110. So all of it comes into play. But
I mean, if we've gained this much ground in this short amount of time, when you're talking about
historic time, right? Because history is so much bigger than these last 150 years, but these last
150 years have been a time of incredible growth of the human population and incredible growth in
life expectancy and just overall better health. Think of all the things that just to kill,
would kill children in, you know, kill them in when they're three, four, five years old,
and those things are mostly gone. I like whenever people say that a McDonald's sprite would kill a
sickly Victorian child. Yeah, because it's funny, but it's also like how would they have handled
something like that? Yeah. Even just the fizz alone. Yeah, just the carbonation. They would
hate it carbonation. Yeah, we got a question, Brian, you can answer this is not difficult.
Said humans were living 60, 70 years back in the New Testament times. How is he figuring most
people were dead by 30? It's called scientific research brother. They can look at bones and they
can look at rock and records and all of these things and they can see it wasn't that the average
one. It was that half of all people on earth died by that age at those times. Some died again,
some died in wars, some died as children from various diseases. I mean, but it's just the point
that in that time that it's not that the average age was 30. It's that half of people were dead
by that age. So sure, if you if you avoided the big diseases, if you didn't end up going to war,
you could live to 60 or 70, but now that 60 to 70 is 90 to 100. You're talking about the high
end of those times, not the averages.
That's TGS.
Uh, two Dave Davies down in Jupiter. Well, one Dave is down in Jupiter. Dave Glover is down in Jupiter.
Dave Murray is joining us now though. What's up Dave? I should be down in Jupiter too.
You could be your big shot or man, you just make the call. They'll get you in that photo could
have gotten many more famous looking. I mean, could you we should do a Photoshop and put Dave
Murray in there because I don't know if you saw the photo. Did you see the photo on Facebook? I did.
I did. Yeah, it's just like a who's who of cool guys hanging out in Jupiter. Just just Photoshop
me in the back like just like lingering over the top of everybody. Maybe we just kind of like a
suspicious look. Are you sure you guys are okay with this? Yeah. Well, I'm sure they're going
to range it. I'm sure they'd set you up, Dave. We oh, yeah. Yeah. They always have taken great
care of me. So I'm happy with that. Are you ready? We hit a record today. Let's go 86. So it's a
record where we are so far. It is a record. The record 85 from 1955. Should we get T-shirts and say
we were there on March 10th? Yeah. Absolutely. It's cool. It's great as I went back because there's
also a big shift coming later in the weekend. I went back to the spring forecast. Okay.
And we had possible record heat in the first 15 days. So we get to check that one off and thought
there would be a dramatic change in the weather from relatively warm to cold come around the 15th
of March. And you know what? We're going to check that one off too. All right. Which I'll tell you
about here in a second. All right. So we have a record day. We've got accurate predictions being
made. So what do we got for the next few days? Alrighty. We have this cold front coming in.
There's nothing around the St. Louis area right now. All the active weather is way up to our
north. That's where it's coming alive. Though the front, yes, it's slow moving. It's going to be bad
timing if you're into severe weather. Yeah. There are people who like severe weather. But
but I think we will see rain and thunderstorms primarily after midnight tonight. It could be
well after midnight tonight. 54 for the low evening will be quite mild and dry tomorrow. Rain and
thunderstorms up until about midday or so. I don't see a lot of severe weather, but I see a lot of
rain. So really heavy downpours of rain could be some ponding on the roads in the morning. So extra
care on the morning. Windy 67 is the high tomorrow. That is probably about 11 o'clock noon time.
We'll be at 48 degrees come sunset tomorrow. Well, pretty good drop in temperature sunset right
around seven o'clock 33 degrees on Wednesday night. Windy and cold. So it's going to feel colder.
Thursday sunny and chilly 56 Friday is quiet partly sunny 63 looks quiet on Saturday. Rain and
thunderstorms returning on Sunday will be in the sixties during the day. However Sunday night
we're going to take a nose dive. Pretty good cold front is coming in and I'm going to go 22
for the overnight low Sunday night into Monday morning and would not be surprised if just
depending on how much moisture is left over that we see some wet sloppy hamster size snowflakes.
No late Sunday night Monday is a sunny day, but it's only 36 for the high. So real drastic sharp
drop coming Sunday night. Can I can I put in a request to change that order at the end? Sure.
I don't do requests. I'm kidding. I don't want to hear any more cold. I know it's there. It's
marching. I don't know it, but like when you get these days and it's like 80 and you're like,
all right, 86. But it's right. I know. I know there's the logical part of the brain and then
there's the irrational side that just wants what it wants. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well,
this is this then the one on Monday. Is that it? No, I still think the last two weeks of March
will be on the on the chilly to the normal cold. A little bit below, which is why you know,
we've been above average for the first two weeks. We should be below average the last two weeks. So
the month comes out about average. All right. But what I am hearing from you is that because of
all this rain and the fact that it's still a little bit warm for a few days that we may be looking
at mowing the lawn here soon. Yeah. Some people have done that already and that that kind of growling
noise was not rain. That was Andrew. Yeah, that wasn't the storm system. That was Andrew's like,
I don't want this. That one of my dogs. Yeah. You sounded just like them though. Yeah, you did. You
definitely had a little grumpy dogs down there. Not great. Not great. All right. Well, I guess we
can enjoy the good and we have to mix in some of the crappy stuff to go with it. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Yeah. All right. Rach, why do some headlines? Sure. Headlines is brought to you by
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rows. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And a neat. And I know they're all like really tiny. One giant mouth. No, no, no. Dave's
Dave's thinking big face. I'm thinking tiny teeth in the reality. It's just two rows. He says that
the extra teeth don't cause him discomfort. Good. Yeah. A lot more higher dentist bills, I would bet.
Oh, man. Yeah. Two cleaning ones. Do not get cavities in a long time. You get 10 more
drillins in there. Katie Curric is being criticized right now because she was interviewing
California governor Gavin Newsom in her podcast and she asked him, are you just as ridiculously
good looking as Vogue said? No, seriously. What do you do about that? And Newsom was kind of just
like, I don't know. I'm not sure. Be like, thank you, man. I have I am married. I think she's making
a play on like the really, really ridiculously good looking line. Is that from Anchorman? I don't
know, but it's a weird thing to do. Yeah. I mean, it's like just don't try to be funny. You're
Katie Curric. Why don't you just do a straightforward interview? Well, I mean, just as an example,
I know it's different, but if that was a male reporter asking that of a woman that was elected
or as a governor, like say, Governor Whitmer in Michigan, who was, I think was like a Miss Michigan
something or other at some point, I think that'd be pretty frowned upon. Zoolander or go to sleep
points out. Oh, it's Zoolander. Okay. Yeah, I think you make a good point, wheels. Let's not do
that. It's one of those double standard things that like the gals can get away with, but it would be
very, very creepy, if a guy said that, I don't know. And even if it wasn't creepy, I don't think
what Katie did is creepy. I just think it, it's just weird. You're there to ask questions.
You're not there to be a fan. You know what I mean? Megan Kelly wondered on Twitter if Katie
Curric would have asked JD Vance the same thing. Now, we all know she wouldn't.
For obvious reasons. Come on now. And I don't. Which are the obvious reasons?
He doesn't look the same. You mean the eyeliner doesn't do it? I mean, I personally would not
look at Gavin Newsom and be like, what a hot guy. But I understand that maybe he's
on another level than a lot of politics. I don't know. I see where people are coming from with it.
I don't think no offense to the vice president. I don't think that many people take a look at JD
Vance and go like, now who? Who is that? Who is that tall drink?
Davis is Gavin Newsom viewed as the sexiest man alive in California.
You know, it's interesting is that he is very well liked in this state for some people.
You could say the majority, but that doesn't mean everybody, right?
No, right. Yeah, it's just a fascinating thing. But I will say that it is a part of politics
that I find weird. Like I think we're very weird about the whole tall thing or you know, certain
person has like, I mean, to me, this is not a, this is not a shot at at Gavin or anybody else.
He just kind of looks like a game show host. Yeah. Which is not, I mean, usually the game shows
are there because they're pretty good looking guys. You know, they have a certain personality.
That's fine. But like, why does that even come into play in in serious issues? Like the last
thing I care about is what somebody looks like when I'm going to cast my ballot.
It would be great though if he would do, okay, what's behind door number three? Would you like that?
Oh, look, it's more taxes. He could do a little Bob Barker routine.
That'd be great. Okay, according to a new poll, a majority of voters say the risks of artificial
intelligence outweigh the benefits. So the, sorry, say that again. 57% of registered voters
say they believe the risks of artificial intelligence outweigh its benefits based on what?
I mean, I would assume all of the bad things that are happening because of AI or the bad press that
AI gets. Yeah. And I haven't necessarily seen any leaps and bounds for positive things for,
I'm not saying like AI itself is evil. I'm just saying AI as it currently stands, I tend to
agree with a majority here. There seems to be more negative things coming from it than positive
at the moment. Why do we ask AI that same question? Yeah.
Well, yeah, to me, it's not even fully AI at in most cases that we know of,
right? Being able to doctor up a picture is not the same as being intelligent.
You know, like, I mean, to me, the intelligence part is some version of self awareness
and some version of independent thinking as opposed to being programmed to just process all
that information. I don't think we've gotten there yet, right? We haven't gotten to the point
where any, any AI is even close to being what we would call sentient. No, I mean, it's, it's a
shorthand for sure. Right, right. And it's probably going to get there though. People think it will.
I mean, people think it's there now because people are dumb. I get on Twitter.
They'll be like, he's really good example of what I'm talking about. There will be like a picture
of an envelope. And people will be in the comments like, at GROC, GROC is the Twitter AI. They're like,
what's in the envelope? It doesn't know. It's not an on the, what are you talking about? You are so,
you are not using your head. Well, and GROC is really famous for not being able to say I don't
know. And it just creates an answer that it can't possibly know. Right. That's a big, that's why I
would not call any of these things, quote, intelligence just yet. I use chat GPT. What I use it for is
kind of like a much more detailed search engine than I could get from just a plain old Google search
because I can put in a very detailed question and it will, it will bring together things. But I
still, I still need to go check some of it, right? I still need to do some legwork and say,
is that correct? You know, I can't just go, well, chat GPT said, so it must be real.
Or people will be like, I don't know, someone's face will be blacked out. It'll be like one of the
Epstein files. Right. It'll be censored and people are like, uncensor the photo. That's not how
anything works. Get a grip. So unless you have the real photo, which it doesn't, which it doesn't,
not all knowing because it's not out there. Right, right.
Um, Tinker Bell is going to get a live action remake.
Goodie. They're calling it Tink. Okay. It's a live action drama built around Tinker Bell.
I guess a lot of tears being shed for Tinker Bell. What are we doing?
I don't know. Where's the audience for that? Yeah, people, people watch them. Some of them have
been good. Which ones have been good? I really like the live action beauty in the beast. I like to
that one too. That one was nice. I'm a Watson and Dan Stevens. I thought that was great.
All right. Enjoy that. Thanks, Dave. Alrighty.
Cut up, Maria. Show me some of that Spanish downsell them.
It's DGS on a Tuesday. Rachel, Andrew, Kevin, hanging out, Dave, down in Jupiter. We did
get a text from Dave so we know that he has surfaced. Um, sounds like they're still having fun.
So looking forward to that. And here, I think they're going to be stories galore on Monday.
Oh, yes. I mean, not. First of all, I don't know how many of the stories from those dinners
can be told on the air. So we may have to get somewhat limited versions of those.
But yeah, it's such a, and we'll talk more with Tom Akerman, by the way. We'll check in with Tom
down on Jupiter here after the four o'clock news. I keep trying to find a way to describe to you
guys, Rachel and Andrew, like, just what the vibe is down there for someone that's really like
hardcore baseball, like, I'm trying to think of like a way to tell people that
haven't been there. Like, and I'm not talking about the working side, the working side's different.
You know what, what Matt Polly does, what Tom Akerman's doing, what I did when I was going down
there is a lot different because it's long days. You know, you're in the clubhouse at eight o'clock
in the morning and you're there until mid afternoon. And then for those of us, like, like,
Matt and I, when I was doing doing sports open line, then you've got like a little break in the
middle, then you come back and you've got to do your show and you're doing afternoon drive
things and hits on the, you know, like a DGS or whatever, a little different. But when you're down
there in the, in the way that Dave is, it's just so cool. It's, it's almost like just a new reality.
When you get to just have these, all these nice dinners and you're at the ball game and you're
hanging out with cool people all the time. I don't know. I mean, maybe it's just, I'm just describing
the basic vacation. I mean, is there a thing you guys travel for, I mean, not to travel, but is
there a thing that puts you in that place or a spot that puts you in that place where you're just
like, this is maybe the happiest place on earth. Talk about. Yeah. I mean, I haven't been to talk
about a long time. Right, laughter, maybe. Really? Yeah. That's at the top of your list.
All garden longhorn. Yeah. Chili's pretty much any rest. You just name a restaurant. Yeah.
Yeah, the Apple these gift card in my purse right now. Oh boy. There's nothing better than,
then I don't think there's much better than gift cards for restaurants. Because you know,
you're just going to go and eat have fun. You know, that's right there. That's $50, $75,
$100 of fun right there. I, I'm not lying. I was genuinely touched when I received that as a gift.
Yeah. Yeah. It was like, this person knows me. They get me. Yeah. This is so nice. Yeah.
That's really great. So what you're saying, Andrew, is you want to, for birthdays,
and stuff, you want like Taco Bell cards. Yeah. Do they do cards at Taco Bell? Yeah. Yeah.
Do they? Yeah. Really? Just like every other establishment on earth. I know. I've never seen one.
I've never gotten one. I've never given one. I've never even seen one. I don't, I don't think people
think a lot about giving like a Taco Bell gift card because it's like, you know, inexpensive.
Well, that's a good point, right? Like the whole point of those restaurants is that they're not expensive.
Yeah.
It's 405 on DGS. Got Rachel Simmerman, Andrew Stolls, Kevin Wheeler with you in studio.
And obviously Dave Glover is down in Jupiter, which is where my buddy Tom Akerman is. Tom,
I know you have fun when you're down there, but you're down there working. Dave is down there
fun. And we appreciate you, buddy. How you doing? Hey, anytime, man, I am on 95. Oh, no.
I said, Oh, no, that's the worst part about being down there is I 90. Yeah. So I was going to say,
I'm on 95. I'm looking at northbound 95 as I travel southbound and get off here, Donald Ross
Rose, drop off my buddy, Stephanie Carey at the ballpark. And going north on 95 is bumper to bumper.
Yeah. We are just flying free here. And head back into Jupiter. Nice. Well, obviously, you know,
the game today was important seeing Lucy. I don't know that there's anything overly good or bad
to get excited about today. But if there's anything you thought stood out, feel free to throw it out
there. It was an ugly game. They have a BDRC lineup out there because they played split squad games
and they're, you know, resting some guys. They put some guys out there back to back days like
Chase Davis, he had three whiffs. I'll tell you the highlights, definitely Nelson Velazquez.
Yeah. An absolute tape measure shot in the first inning. And that put the Cardinals up,
nothing, but that's the last time they scored a run. They won run on three hits. And, you know,
the other disappointing thing was Riley O'Brien. I mean, he'll brush it off, but he was just off
today. I was not down in the clubhouse to ask him what happened, but he walked for through a wild
pitch. Tough day for him. Otherwise, you know, they played a ball game in Porte, Lucy.
Velazquez hit a home run. Vic had a double. Victor Scott also walked and got on base, got caught
stealing. You know, he was the lead off guy. They're trying to get him going here, get some offense
going. This is going to be all about over these next two weeks. The battle in the outfield is
definitely something to watch. And certainly what this rotation ends up being. Is it a five man,
six man rotation? What's the bullpen look like? There's some really intriguing things to follow here.
The last couple weeks. Yeah, I agree. In fact, let's stick with Velazquez for a second. Tom,
because, you know, you mentioned that outfield being up for grabs. I think, I think it's going to,
I don't think we're going to see a change with Walker and Scott before opening day. I would think
they're going to have to play their way out of the lineup in the regular season, not in spring,
but left field open while newt is out. We talked about Nathan Church yesterday. Boy, and I know
they're going to have a right handed compliment for those guys for Scott and for church.
So JC will be an option. Obviously for mean has played left and center so far.
But boy, Velazquez is that big right handed power bat. He's not going to play center. That's not
really what he's built for. But that's an interesting guy. Do you get the sense since you've been
down there that that's a realistic possibility? Because it does. It's an interesting bench that isn't
isn't going to be made less complicated if you're keeping a guy like that to be a little more
complicated. He's around. Yes, and I think I want to see the next couple of games.
How much run they give him and how much of a long look they give him that'll be.
Uh oh. There we go. We got you back. Tommy lost you for about two seconds.
Well, you know, I'm driving in this busy travel. There's only so many so many
cell phones can can get signal. But anyway, I'm I'm pulling into the complex. We should have some
strong information from the Cardinals. But you know, I think that Nelson Velazquez, I don't know
how much you heard me say, but I want to see how much run he gets over the next few days. Yeah.
You know, how many times does he get trotted out there and how long of a look is it? I think it's
a realistic possibility that Nelson Velazquez bashes home runs over the next week. He could be playing
in left field, maybe even on opening day. But he is definitely a right handed bat that you could
bring off the bench with some thumb and start occasionally. You mentioned to JC, of course,
really like that possibility. I certainly like for means versatility. And they played him in
center field here recently. So I think they are just taking a look at how many places they can play
him and move him around. But Nathan Church is the guy that pops for me. He played center field.
We talked about this yesterday. He's got that big cannon. He can play, you know,
multiple positions in the outfield. And I think he's going to be on the team as an outfielder,
whether he's starting an opening day. I don't know, but I get the vibe from him that he has not
officially made the team yet, but you can pretty much pencil it out. Yeah, I would think so when
you're given, when you're looking at the other certain, he's uncertain. I should say it makes
sense. I mean, we know newt's going to open the year on the injured list. So you're going to need
somebody in left field and he's a left handed bat and a great defender. So that's a good thing
to fall back on. But I mean, Tom, what he did last year at the double and triple A level doesn't
happen by accident. You don't hit 330 combined at those two levels with real power. I don't mean
like 35 home or power, but he was double digits in doubles, home runs, stolen bases. I get 20
steals. He might have been that close to double digits and triples too. And all of that was in
less than 90 games. Yes. And he has, again, the ability to play multiple spots out there. And I,
you know, especially center field. I mean, he's a Nathan Church is a good defensive player. Oh my god,
yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's that's a combo. You don't just toss away if he can hit and he can
defend. He's going to play. And I think Victor Scott needs to get the bat going. I mean, I love
Victor Scott. I don't know that at this very moment on March 10th, he's in jeopardy of losing his
job. But, you know, he's got to get it going a little bit and show that he's been able to carry
over whatever they've shown him. Yeah. That he can make it work at the plate. I mean, it just
is what it is. I mean, he laced a double late the game today. That's good. Hopefully that can
carry it tomorrow. Absolutely. All right. So speaking of the bullpen, Tom, I mean, I think it's
just a speaking of Riley O'Brien because it brings me to a topic about the bullpen. I'm guessing
and I've heard Ollie talk about it a little bit. So I don't think he's going to commit to anything
until you until you're, you know, seeing it in games. But obviously they have a bunch of guys
that can finish games in the back end of the bullpen. Riley O'Brien finished last year in that
job, kind of the guy that's going to pitch the ninth inning. Do you get the sense that he's healthy
and all goes well between now and opening day that he's probably going to be in that kind of a
role to begin with, even though I think it's fair to assume that they'll probably have three or four
guys get saves this year. Yeah. And, you know, the other thing is, and I don't know that again,
I don't know if he said anything about this after the game. I don't think so. But he is still
eligible to pitch for team Korea, the WBC. Riley is still on the roster. So, you know, does he end
up pitching for team Korea now that they've advanced? Right. And what is, and what does that mean?
It's, it's most likely Riley is going to be a seventh inning, maybe eighth inning set up guy
from the right side. He's too good not to be. But I'm not putting him in as the closer. And I think
right now that leading candidate is Matt Swanson. Beyond that, I'm looking at, I'll tell you who I
really like is Ryan Static. Yeah, he's been good, hasn't he? He throws the heck out of the ball,
dude. I mean, he has a fastball that can drop on you, low in the zone. He throws that fastball
slider combo. And that same arm angle and he brings, I mean, he's, and he's a veteran. He's got
nasty, tough stuff, man. That's, that's hard to hit. I think that I was impressed today with
just going over to the left side real quick. Packing not, I'm packing on and rip through an
inning today in short order. And that kind of jumped out of me because I think, you know, I've been
looking at Brule. Obviously, you know, you, you look from the left hand side. It's JoJo
remarer leading the way. By the way, JoJo is a decent closer candidate. Sure. I bet he
gets some saves. But you know, when you have one real known commodity as a lefty, you probably need
him for whenever it's necessary. Yeah, but packing not in, you know, the real estate agent. I mean,
he just made himself visible today. I thought. And that's, that's nice. So there's, there's some
good competition here. The challenge, of course, is finding innings for everybody and making sure
that you get everybody out there. Let's just cross their fingers that you have nice weather every
day. You can play games every day. And, and everything goes as scheduled. And you can get innings
for everyone. But it's going to be fun. I think that the bullpen is actually a strength of
this team. I don't want to go so far yet to say that the rotation is, I think the rotation is
better. And the rotation is really good. They don't get me wrong. It down here. But let's just,
you know, I want to hold the horses here a little bit until we see them in the first month of the
season facing the best of the best every single time. But I think the bullpen's got a chance to
be decent. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. In fact, Bernie and I were talking about the rotation yesterday,
Tom, on on Red Bull rush hour. We're, we both agree with you. We think that the rotation will be
better than it was last year. In part, because of how badly Fettie and Michael has struggled for a
lot of the year and how badly Pellante struggled. But if Pellante doesn't get better, they have
options where last year they didn't. And when's the last time the Cardinals had a starting pitcher
throw in 97, 98 consistently like Dustin May and Richard Fitz have so far. That's no
while. Yeah. I mean, was it Carlos? And that young Carlos was doing that probably more veteran
Carlos was probably more like 94, 95. But yeah, young Carlos was in the 98 range for sure. Yeah,
he was right. I mean, he or young Carlos, I'm not mistaken, could rise that thing up to 100.
He did as a delivery for sure. Yeah. Yeah. But but consistently as a starter, sure, up for 90s.
Yeah, the big redheads going tomorrow. I'm going to have that game. Yeah, that's your guy.
We're going to have him tomorrow against the Nationals down in West Palm. So that would be my first
time seeing him as a Cardinal. So I'm really looking forward to that. And yeah, I think the rotation
is good. I mean, Matthew Libertor has not been officially announced as the opening day starter,
but that's what he's going to be. Yeah, say it's all lined up for that. Yeah. And then, you know,
you're looking at McGreevy and whatever order may McGreevy. I think Fitz and Kyle A.
who through four perfect dennings is going to have a say here, but if you go to a six man rotation,
you put Palante in there. Palante was good on Sunday. Yeah. And and you know, you want to he has
this. He just he seems different to me. He has a very good attitude about what he's doing.
I think he feels really good about he has a wide assortment of pitches that he can get people out.
He's tough on lefties. We know that, which is good for a right-hander to find some of those
trick pitches that he can get out on. But mostly he told me with lefties, it's his fastball that he
can get, he can get, you know, down and in and stuff. We'll see. We'll see where it goes. I'm bullish
on the rotation. I just want to not get too far ahead of my shirt on that. Yeah. I mean, look,
it's going to be it's going to be to me anyway. And again, we'll just close on this time and
and just kind of peeking ahead to April. To me, at least early in the year, assuming, you know,
relative health, because we know injuries will come up, but just like relatively good health,
the pitching side feels a lot more stable than the offensive side and it's going to be a lot
of low scoring games, at least early until we see if Victor Scott and Jordan Walker can make
significant improvements. I think you need maybe more moderate improvement from Nolan Garman,
because for as much as we worry about what he hasn't done, he's been a league average hitter
as a major leagueer. And that's playable. But this team needs him to be more than that moving forward.
But I think he's a little bit more of a sure thing than others. But boy, you know, with Pahace,
when he plays, they're going to be days where the lineup's not going to be that great. They're
going to need the pitching to be pretty decent. Absolutely, you know, Stefan and I just dropped
him off at the ballpark during our conversation. He's not in the car now, but we were, you know,
just to kill time. He said, okay, give me your starting lineup, but opening day. And I said,
you want lineup or you want batting order? He goes batting order. I said, leading off and playing
second base, JJ weather, old man batting second and playing shortstop, Mason went.
batting third and playing first base, Alec Boroson. And he was right here with me the whole time,
that batting fourth, the designated hitter, Ivana Rera. He goes, I'm with you all the way.
I said batting fifth and I paused and he goes, say it, I know you want to say it, you got to say it.
And I said, playing third base, he goes, yep, I said Nolan Gorman. Yeah. And he has to be,
I mean, he has to, he's got to deliver this year. And the number five hitter has got to
break in big situations and has to be able to drive in runs. And hopefully that's the case.
This is the year for Nolan Gorman. It's also the year for Jordan Walker. Yeah. But Nolan
Gorman is a good hitter and has got to show it. He can be looking forward to it, buddy. Have a good
night down there. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you. See you later.
I said yes. On a Tuesday, Rachel Andrew Kevin hanging out day,
Glow her down and Jupiter back on Monday of next week. Rachel got something. I wouldn't talk about
this cat that went to space in the 60s. Oh, in the 60s. I was like, I didn't know a cat went to
space recently. Yeah, I just learned about this on on Twitter last night. The cat's name is Philly Shetz.
Okay. And she's French. All right. Uh, she was launched into space on the 18th of October,
1963 as part of the French space program. And she was chosen for the mission because she was so
calm and resilient, which, you know, cats can get a little nervous. So a calm cat would be key
when it comes to being shot in the space, I would think she weighed just five and a half pounds.
So she was a tiny little thing. And she was the first and only cat to travel to space. So props.
Yeah, but it's her story is actually really tragic. I hate to know I figured it would be
none of them are like this. But just two months after her mission, which was successful,
they euthanized her so they could study the effects of space travel on her body. Yep.
This of course yielded little scientific insight. So they killed her for no reason.
It's horrible, but they did do a statue for her in 2019. Uh, and it depicts her gazing towards the
stars. It's like probably probably thinking don't send me out there. It's so terrible.
Justice for Philly Shetz. Yeah, that's brutal. Poor kitty cat.
