FULL SHOW 9/8/2026

0:00You're listening to the Dana N. Parks podcast on KMBZ. And a good Tuesday afternoon. What everybody enjoyed their extended weekend if you had one. We are more than aware of the news that is affected this broadcasting family. The passing of Toby Tobin over the weekend. And we have a number of people that are going to come in. We will talk about Toby Tobin, his just legendary career. 40 years. 40 plus years on KMBZ. His dad did the show before him. I did not know that until today. Now his brother Mark continues on every Saturday morning from six to 10. Sam called me over the weekend on I think it was Sunday morning. And I know you have a very close connection with the Tobin family as well. And produce their show and did the news on their show. Man. He was, Dana used the word a giant.

1:01And he really was. I mean, I got the phone call and working in this business, you know that we always have something to say. And I got the call and they told me what was going on. And I didn't have any words for the first time in a long time. I was just like, you're lying. And then you called me. And you called me and I said, give me a second. I need to sit down. I mean, because when I first came here in December of 96, it was to read the news on Tobin show on Toby Tobin show. And he was, and I mentioned this in a Facebook post, he was genuine. He was so kind and so funny. And I was just telling the story to his brothers out in the newsroom. Mark, I mean, I was in my early 20s. Yeah. Probably 23, 24. I don't know. And I was nervous. And I knew who Toby Tobin was. Everybody did. Yeah.

2:01And I remember I did a newscast. And I was, this was at the old building in Westwood. And I go back and I sit in the newsroom. And Toby comes up to me during a commercial break and he goes, hey, stay in the business. I think you might have it. And I was like, I mean, for a young kid like me, I was like, wow. Yeah. You know, that meant everything to me. And years later, he did the same to me. He used to tell me every single Saturday morning at some point he'd come out of the studio and say, keep doing what you're doing. You know, Scott Park started out reading the news on my show. And I'd say, thank you, Toby. I appreciate that. I'll keep doing it. Johnny, Johnny Vincent, to me over the weekend, he said, because he's a lawn guy, very deliberate specific about his lawn, like so many of you are. And he said, all of my lawn, the shrubs, the lawn, the trees, he said, it's all Toby and he said, I listened religiously. Everything I know is because of that show. And you think about like what you want your legacy to be. Someday we will all be gone. What do you want your legacy to be?

3:02And what a uniquely beautiful, impactful legacy that Toby leaves in every blade of grass in the spring. Oh, sure. And the trees that you see around us and the shrubs, you know, we would be driving. Remember at one point, he said, look at those beautiful white flowering trees. And this was maybe a year ago and he goes, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Brad for parents. Because those are invasive. That's actually a weed, we do not want those. And I was like, how do you know that Toby Tobin? No, if he liked your product and recommended it on the air, say, and you know this, if he liked your product and recommended it on the air, he could make your career. Oh, yeah. And he absolutely meant it. I mean, it was always 100% genuine. If he told you he loved the product, he used it on his yard. And we'll get into some of the many stories about Toby coming out, but it was always funny. The man who always had to have the perfect yard was always tearing up his yard to see if there was a better way to do it. To see him, I can get a little better next time. And you know the big green pastures upstairs or a whole lot greener after this weekend because he's taking care of them.

4:08I said, we went and saw coyote versus acme over the weekend. Per your insistence that if I don't go see it, I'm dead to you. I laughed for two hours nonstop. Oh, Dana. It is so silly. You guys, we talk about nostalgia a lot and how nostalgia sells. I feel like if our adult children went to see it, they'd be like, oh, yeah, that was funny. Anyone our age and older, you will laugh out loud and you forget how funny those cartoons were, how violent they were. Very violent. It is a movie with Will Forte and John Cena is in it. It's very well written. It's very well acted. I found it creative. And then there are cartoons in it, sort of like who killed Roger Rabbit, but way funny. It's animation meets live action. And have you forgotten about the bird seed over the bomb in the middle of the road? Don't get me wrong. We enjoyed the movie. Meet me.

5:09But when I got done, I called Sam and I said, you might want to wait for this to come in on streaming. It's good, but it's not great. Oh, I was entertained. But I didn't think it was two hours of nonstop laugh. We were sitting in a row. I'm sorry for the guy who sat in front of you. Oh, let me just tell you, we were sitting in a row. When we got there, it was just you and I. And then I popped up to get a diet coke right before the preview started and I come back. And there are like 12, eight year olds in the row that we share with all of these kids are now there. They're there for a birthday party. He says to me after the movie, you laughed harder than they did. Because it's so stupid. You guys, it is just stupid, mindless, funny. I think word is getting around that it's a good movie, great movie, whatever. Yes. T and I went to the one 30 yesterday in Western Shawnee. We could not sit next to each other. No, no, we went to a matinee.

6:09Yeah, could you sit next to each other? We were able to find two seats together. Our text line is 913-586-7798. If you want to pass on a note to Mark Tobin or Mike Doherty. Please text us. They're all here. They're going to be joining us in just a moment as we remember the life and the legacy of Toby Tobin. I wish we were visiting on different circumstances, but joining us in studio is Mark Tobin. Mike Doherty and Brian Pippin, as we remember and honor the legacy of one of our own Toby Tobin, who passed away over the weekend. Mark, it's only fitting that we start with you and our condolences to the Tobin family and to the many, many people who knew Toby and called him a friend. I really don't even know how to thank you and so many people.

7:15Have you reached out? I got a call Sunday morning from Mark. I was out of town and Mark said, Brian, can you help me? You're the first one I'm calling outside the family and we need to let everybody know. I said, I'll call Sam. I said, we'll take it from here. I know what to do. You don't need to do anything. We got it under control. Toby led a really private life away from the microphone. Since he's passed, it's just overwhelming to me the outpouring of well wishes and sympathy. I knew he touched a lot of lives, but to see it has just been actually very cool and very humbling. I really don't know how to thank so many people for the sympathy and I remember in Toby. I was going to ask you, Mark, did you realize or did anyone in the family realize the extent to which you shared him?

8:19No, not at all. Toby was just my brother. Well, there's a big day, age difference between Van Toby. He's 15 years older than I am. So my earliest memory is a home. Toby had already moved out of the home and I didn't really look at him as a brother growing up. He was more like a father figure to me. My dad Jack died when he was 58. Toby was the one that was there through all of my trials and tribulations. And again, he was more like a father to me than he was a brother. Let our listeners understand how did it all start? Did you guys always just have this beautiful, lush, incredible lawn? Were you always the yard of the month? How did this all start? It was quite the opposite. So my dad Jack started the radio show back in 1963. And so dad would get a lot of different products to try. And my younger brother, Gary and I were still at home back in those days. And we made it a point to make sure to absolutely tear up the yard. I remember one year somebody that had these new kind of lawn mowers that used sticks to control them,

9:24like a little, almost like a little golf cart. Well, we had two of them and we made an obstacle course in our yard. And dad finally put his foot down when we had turned the entire lawn into dirt. But it was kind of a running joke that Jack Thomas lawn was the worst in the neighborhood. Because dad was always trying to let mouse or we were busy and just had time of time to do it. Now Toby was a little bit different. Toby was a perfectionist and his lawn was the best in the block. But he was crazy. I mean, he would every year he would kill his lawn out and try a new grass back in the early years. When we started to open lawn, there was always a different variety of grass that was coming out. Those tattered to be better and greater than something else. And he killed his perfectly, perfect yard and converted over to something else just to try something else. But yeah, he was definitely a perfectionist when it came to that. Well, when you talk about sharing him and you talk about the impact that he's had. And we of course talked about him on the morning show this morning. All of the text message that we are getting, of course, are about how people themselves are impacted.

10:29But also how they listen to Toby with their dad or they listen to your dad with their dad. And they feel like they're losing a piece of their dad as well now that we've lost Toby. Well, so dad did the show in 1963 and dad had a bad habit. He was addicted to fishing. And dad would hear that the crappy might be biting and he called Toby the night before. And it got where when dad would call in the evening, Toby would answer the phone and say, let me guess, I'm doing the show tomorrow. That's how this started. Because of your dad's fishing habit. There's a picture of your dad in the back hallway. Oh, I... With Dan Henry, if you don't know who that picture is, it was... Dan Henry, and I don't remember him. And there was some of Toby told us one time. Yeah, I don't remember. It's a big, big framed picture up on the little Dan Henry from Channel 4 weather. Is that the one with a bucket of sand and dad? Somebody has like a... It's a trash can. And this looks like somebody has a little cane. Your dad is holding a...

11:29A wool stick or something? Big, shabby, fishing rubber hand. Yeah, that's right. I don't know the story behind that. But so dad came down with cancer and passed. And Toby took the show over in 1983. And Toby didn't want to do it. He did not want to do the radio show. You know, dad had some big shoes to fill. And Toby didn't want to do it. And there was two reasons why he did. And first and foremost, most it was my mom. And my mom wanted to do it. She did not want my dad's memory to be gone. And that was the primary reason that he did it. But the other thing was Toby worked in retail garden centers for a lot of years. And it really irritated him that people could go to three or four or five different places and ask for advice and they'd get four or five or six different answers. And Toby wanted to be that voice that people could trust, whether it was for advice or for services or for business recommendations.

12:29And he took that very seriously. And a lot of people... Ruffled a lot of feathers. And a lot of people didn't like Toby for that. Because he was very opinionated about that. On doing what he thought was right. And a lot of people would say, well, he's just doing it because he's getting money for it. And that was not Toby, not Toby the Ombrine. You can attest to this. Toby would never take anything for free. No, it's not ever. No. He had to pay for everything that he had. Oh, and he was adamant about it. Matter of fact, he was writing the check before you could even get the total out. Right. Yeah, that was not going to happen with Toby Tobin. You weren't going to get anything past that man. He had standards and... Toby vetted people before vetting was even a word. You don't even understand vetting, you know. Don't even get me started because I got to be honest with you. One of the things that I was always afraid of was Toby Tobin. Because you don't meet his level of expectation. You are not going to be on that man's show. I have seen several of his guests, his panel of experts come and go.

13:30One and a half. I've seen... And I've also seen someone walk out of the studio and he says, that person will never be back on my show again. So you had to meet his level of standards. Are you going to be here? I talk about like just the overwhelming sort of communal. We all have this communal interest in making things look nice outside. And you see other people do it. And as a new homeowner or an established homeowner, we all have questions. We all have frustrations. Maybe you're like Toby and you're one of those people that was just born with a green thumb. For most people, it's so confusing. And I love that you brought this up, Mark, that like he would get agitated, that no one seemed to have any answers. Just tell me what I need to do. Well, it was... He had to walk a tight route quite often. Because quite often what he was recommending was contrary to what you were seeing and still today. More still and whether or not.

14:30Yeah, right. But still things that are being said and recommended depending on the source. And it's even worse now with the internet because you can go out and allegedly find things that are more times not not accurate. See, I'm being diplomatic. But he did. As Mark said, he ruffled a few feathers because it was so contrary to what you were reading and seeing. And he truly enjoyed helping people. And that was truly... He took that so serious. And he didn't want to give bad information because that was his reputation. That was the other point. That he would never recommend talking again with Brian mentioned. He never wanted to encourage or recommend anything that he did not truly believe in. That's why he said he vetted things before the word he would try to... Or used it himself. Or it's absolutely. He would do that. And that's what I always had so much respect for him. Absolutely. After being with him for 40 something years. And you too can attest. I mean, how when he did see that passion, when he did see that excellence, he just clung to you guys.

15:35He did. And what did that feel like? It was an honor. It was a privilege. You may say it was an honor. I don't know. I had a target on my back for 40 years. Well, a few. If you have a shot, you're easy shot. You're easy. No. Don't start. No, easy. It's been a while since you and I've been disclosed. Yeah, no. You don't start. You can't just separate the two anyway. I guess we're here. I wanted to add one more thing before we get too far off topic. Toby's listeners and Toby's... I'll call them my customers. It was almost a cult. Because unless Toby Tobin recommended it, they wouldn't use it. I've been inside customer's houses. And every single one of Toby's experts or businesses that he recommends, that was what that customer used. And you can see it throughout their house. And it showed. And they even said to me many times. Toby doesn't recommend it. I don't do it. I'm not doing it. I don't use it.

16:35It's one thing, though, to be as knowledgeable as he was and your dad was, it's an entirely different space to turn that into a broadcast show. That works. And especially today, in the era of a billion people have something to say and, quote, I want a podcast about fitness or whatever. Like there's so much noise out there in our... If I had a dime for every person that told us, I'm thinking about starting a podcast. And I always say, don't. Unless you're really passionate about your hobby and you've got extra money to spend and you just want to do it, don't. For him to be able to do what he did for so long with such a niche space as long garden flower shrubs is really a testament to his legend. And he loved it. He absolutely loved it. The passion, you could see it. He would sit back in the chair and fold his arms. He absolutely loved it. That was just... That made Toby Toby and he lived his life every single day the exact way he wanted it.

17:36And not everybody can say they did that. No, and he was good at mixing it up. So it wasn't just 100% loan and garden. Yeah. Back in the day, he was having... He had a lot of small individual hardware, remember in the day when we had nothing with privately small, like Sia Young hardware and nuts and bolts and Luangati. He had all those owners on back in the day. Man, we admire. Now we have them. And they were like DIY stuff so they could answer all the little simple DIY questions. And they were great. They knew things. Well, and I said at the beginning of the show today, Toby, if he liked your product, could make your career. Oh, I can tell you right now I wouldn't be where I'm at today without Toby Toby. There's no question about it. He absolutely exploded my business. Businesses. Stick around gentlemen. It's a sad day, but I wanted to celebrate the life that was and is Toby Toby. We have Brian in here, Mike, and of course Toby's brother, Mark.

18:40Yeah, we'll continue in just a moment. If you'd like to send a message to the guys, you can text us 913-586-7798. All right, joining us in studios, Brian Pippen, Mike Dordey, and Mark Tobin, the younger brother of Toby Tobin. I don't need to tell you who Toby Tobin was, but he passed away over the weekend and he is and will always be regarded as a legend. Tell us something we don't know. Oh, boy. Well, that's easy. No, I don't. He never missed a show due to snowy or inclement weather. You could count on one hand how many shows he actually missed. It was three. Three shows is only missed in 43 years. Two years. Oh, my gosh. Three. I think that was the last one. So Toby had been diagnosed with bladder cancer two and a half years ago.

19:44And he had to have his bladder removed and his prostate removed. And he asked me to fill in that Saturday. And so I did the show for him. And from his hospital bed after having cancer surgery, he would call in to do the live reads. And he didn't trust Mark to do the live reads. So he said, didn't pre-record it. No, no, no, not going to let it air. Call him from his hospital bed. From his hospital bed. That was not doing it any other way. Wow. That's commitment. Yeah. Yeah. So it was two and a half years later now. And Toby has been doing great. So it was two months ago, cancer returned. And it was a small area by where his bladder had been removed. So they started doing radiation and chemo, chemotherapy treatments on him. And he was doing great. I mean, one thing Toby loved to do, him and EJ every day. And I'm talking seven days a week every day.

20:45Religious daily. They would go to first watch restaurant over off 40 highway and independence. No, it's people. They were his adopted family. And he was their adopted father. They loved. They had it first watch every single day. Every seven days. I'm serious seven days a week. And, but Toby did that. And so. Have you notified first watch? Oh, we've been there a couple of time. Toby, they wanted to go there. We've been there last two days. So again, he was doing really good with these treatments. Still going to first watch. And this past week, same thing. And he had radiation treatments Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and Friday. And Toby would always call me after the show on Saturday. He was the first one to either call me or text me. And he'd always tell me, you'd great show. You did great. He said, so the last part of our show, we call it the happy hour. The last part of the last hour. One of my granddaughters were calling and telling joke. And then one of the guys will chip in and I will too. And he would say, the girls jokes were great.

21:47But Mark, how many times do I have to tell you I do the jokes? And why you tell jokes? After all those years, I could never get if he was being serious or if he was joking. Well, I knew which one it was. Well, I can tell you what it was. It was real. He did not want you messing. It was tongue in cheek, but he did not want you. I kind of felt that. Yeah. Over the years, but, you know, did any large corporation ever sweep in and say, we want you to come work for us. He was so knowledgeable. He could have left and gone to do anything. And I'm guessing that just wasn't what he wanted to do. There was so much I don't know because, you know, Toby and I had our lawn service. And Toby and EJ ran the business and my brother Gary and I did the work. Yeah. And so there was so much I didn't see. And I don't know if that happened. I don't know of it, but he wouldn't have gone anywhere. He loved the business and he loved being here and didn't have time for anything else. Yeah.

22:47The phones are still ringing. I hope. Do not call in asking about your U-bushes right now. You know, but the story about how he came on KMB. He has a great story about that. Could you share the story from the show? Sure that. Yeah. So, you know, dad, again, he started the radio show in 1963. And Toby filled in for him whenever dad wanted to go fishing. But after dad passed away in 1982, Toby took over the show full time. Well, this is on WDF. Yeah. And they wanted to cut his salary in half and Toby wouldn't go to have it. He didn't need to do the radio show. So, he told him, I'm done. And that was on a Friday and the following Monday on our recorder at the office, Toby went in Monday and there was four offers from different radio stations for him to take the show over there. And one of the messages was from KMBZ and that just happened to be his favorite radio station. So he didn't even entertain the other. Wow. Other three. He met with KMBZ that day and was on the air that week.

23:50Wow. There was a time when it was a Monday through Friday show with him up mistakenly. Oh yeah. We start. When I did not realize that I started very shortly after Toby started doing it. I knew. And I got connected with Chuck Brasher if you remember him with Country Club Tree Service. Oh, absolutely. Chuck was a good friend of Jacks and Toby. So Chuck was on. And Chuck mentioned to Toby. And he said, I got this young kid that knows trees. Can I bring him down sometime? And I remember hearing him say, I heard, oh, Toby Tobin, yeah, I want to meet this guy. This is royalty here. And so I came down and did a couple of shows with him. And then Toby said, how about Dordy coming, I get this is a funny story. So he said, so Toby ended up saying, well, how about if Dordy just comes down and replaces you permanently, Chuck? I stood back and I said, that's fine. I can. I'll do that. And at that time, we were doing a show. I think that's when we were doing Noon to One five days a week. And so the first time I came down and do the show, I brought all my textbooks from Kyle.

24:55I mean, I had an arm full of like a kid going and I said I'm on the counter. And Toby looks to me. I'll never forget with that desk there. Oh, yeah. He had a forever. He looks at me and said, what are those? I said, what are those of my books? He said, what for? I said, well, if I get a question. I can look up the answer. He said, don't you ever bring a book in this studio again. If you don't know the answer. Yeah. And so to this day, we we joked about that that I brought this my encyclopedias of treats, treats and everything else. We need to take a break. No, he ever stumped pun intended. And I know. Well, there's ever someone that called in where he said, I do not know the answer to that question. Not with grass and not not with gardening, grass or general tree questions. And a lot of a lot to do yourself step two. He just had such vast knowledge. He was just an amazing encyclopedia. He could read something once and he would retain it. Yeah. That's he was naturally curious and he would ask all of his guests and whatever and the people that he've met over the years, he was naturally curious.

25:55He read a lot. And so he would ask these, especially the hardware guys about stuff. So that's how he learned all that. Well, we did, we did, the show was at one point, noon to one, seven days a week, then it went six to seven at night, five days a week. And did I say seven days a week, five days a week, noon to one? That's when coming down to Cambridge. It was cool because we used to have, I got to meet a lot of celebrities. Oh, sure. It's still cool. On a quiet school today. On a quiet school today. You want to say it somewhere. Anyway, we have time for a story. Yes, we do. Please. So Toby went to Rockhurst College and he had decided that he wanted to be a doctor. This is a good story. So he went to observe an operation. And I don't remember, was some kind of a vein operation. I don't know if they're coastains or what it's dripping. I don't know what it was. But he wound up getting blood splattered on his face and he passed out and woke up in

26:57a hospital bed and wound up spending the night there. The doctor came to Toby and Toby said to Toby, I think you better consider staying in the family business. I can remember when I bought my first house in a place in 1998 and I was reading the news on Toby's show and I went to him and I said, we just bought this brand new house and what do you recommend for trees in the yard? And he says, I'll tell you what I don't recommend. Bradford Pairs, he hated them. Silver Maple. And I said, we were just at the nursery and I kind of liked these sweet gum trees. And he said, he goes, put that in your yard and I'll come cut it down. Let's see. Struck down all three of your ideas. That's a kind of impact. Toby had. I mean, this was years ago. And he still remembers. And he still remembers. And that's just, he and all of us is, yes, tried to convey on the show is to, yeah, people would ask us all the time, what's your favorite tree? I said, I'd rather tell you what my least favorite is because that's the one you're going to recommend. Right.

27:58Yes. Mark, one of the things I love about this is that in the age of the internet and social media and AI and Google, all of the listeners could have very easily just asked a computer, what do I do about my lawn or my flower beds or which trees and year after year after year, they kept coming back to your brother and now to you. And I hope that that is a comfort to you and your family. Oh, it is absolutely. I mean, I don't have words for that. And I do worry about that with so much information available at your fingertips, why would you listen to a call and show? But the thing is, with the internet, you can't believe what you read. So many places, there's all Terry or Motes for the information that you get. And that's not us. We're here because of, we want to give information that we honestly believe in and recommend just like Toby did. This is what Toby did. This is a seed Toby planted. And we want to continue to grow it. And it's just giving good information and businesses and services that you can trust.

29:02And business and the information is Midwest based. That's the key is that it's what works here in our backyard, not Texas or up in New York. Well, I think, you know, Toby and by extension, you mark, it's comforting to listen on a Saturday morning. You know, somebody just wrote in, wake up, make coffee, turn on Toby. Yeah. You know, and everybody, I was doing that when I was in my 20s. I have a, our accountant is Toby's accountant. And when the theme music plays, which you're nice enough to do that at the top of the hour, he says it just has a calming effect on me. And I can't even begin to tell you how many people wish that they could find this theme song. And I don't know where it came from or where it is. But it used to be when I would fill in the few times I did for Toby. That theme music would come on. I'm like, you know, I'm, yeah, oh crap. And but now it's the same way I love it.

30:03And so many people enjoy that. And they can relax on the weekend. And what's his legacy going to be? Alaska, three of you. Oh, my standards. No, I, when I think Toby to be told, but it's just that level of standards. You got to meet that level. I can't, I can't think of any other thing to describe Toby, but that ethics is natural caring of people and natural caring of wanting to help people. That's really what it's all about. Passion. Passion. The passion for the industry. All industries actually. Yeah. Any of your roof? That passion or on your property. Yeah. Yes. Toby just helped people not only in the community, but the businesses without wanting anything in return. And he helped and never took and he never did. And I think that's his probably greatest.

31:04Greatest asset was everything that he did and didn't expect one thing in return. Toby would talk to his listeners. Even off air and he would even call them and sometimes they would write into the station or they would call the station as to speak to Toby. They had a problem with concern and he would take the time. He would take it at 10.1. You better believe it. He would intervene and if there was a problem, he couldn't get you on the air. He would take your call. Yeah. Or it's in there to take the call. And but if there was an issue with, with one of his panel of experts, he would step in and intervene and make sure that that person was taken care of. Wow. Hands down. There were a couple of times when we got a call and I couldn't figure out what the problem was by the discussion. I said, well, where do you live? Because I was going to call her and go back. She goes, I don't really live about two blacks in the studio. And Toby says, get out of here, Dory. Get her address out there. You're going to go to our house. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. He dispatched us over. Can you stop by anywhere?

32:06Don't you worry during the show and came back and then I had to report to Toby on the air. Oh, it was a nice lady. No, it was no big deal. That's like three blocks from here. Mark, we hope you feel this entire town's arms wrapped around you and your family. And I know what a difficult time this is. And we're just so sorry for the loss, but so thankful for you to have shared him all of these years. Thank you. Mark Tobin, Mike Doherty, Brian Pippin. Thank you guys for your time. Thank you. Pleasure to be here. So I don't remember what year you should be dancing was a hit by the Bee Gees, but it was around that time that a farmer decided to plant some sunflowers just west of here toward Lawrence. And we are right in the middle of peak sunflower season at Grinter Farm. And on just a whim on Friday, it was so hot out, but I said, why don't we hop in the

33:10car and go look at the sunflowers at Grinter Farm? And if you've never been, it will take your breath away. If you think, look, I know what a sunflower looks like. There is nothing like this in these United States. Have you ever been before? I had been many years ago with the girls. They were probably seven and nine years old. It's been open since the 1970s. It is a farm. It is not, it's, they've got a little country store there that was closed by the time we got there. I'm telling you, go at sundown. It is magical. The word is magical. I have never been. I have never been. You drive like you're going to Lawrence and then you take this exit and there's a gravel road and you park on their field. It's a private thing that has become this gift to the public. They do not charge which they should have got away. Billionaires if they did, but the farmer's wife is in this like release thing on Facebook last week and here are the rules. Please do not urinate. We do not have bathrooms here.

34:12When we got there, Scott, the sun was almost setting. There were a couple of photographers there taking family photos. It is so vast. You don't have to ever see another person. You just kind of wander in and you're just surrounded by the most stunning. It's almost indescribable how beautiful it is. You can stay 20 minutes. You can stay three hours and we snap some photos. Oh, wow. Look at the pictures. It's just takes your breath away and we're in the middle of you got about two weeks because it's been so dry and then it goes away until next season. The story from Channel 5 says the extreme summer heat and dry conditions are threatening to cut the sunflower season short. I posted those pictures on Facebook. There's going to be so many people going and I'll tell you it's on still well road. Well, I applaud their charity, but why not charge five bucks? Because farmers wife said it just this feels right to us.

35:14Doing it the way we do it just feels right that this is a communal asset, one to be treasured. They're in the 23,000 block of still well road in Lawrence. It is actually Lawrence, but it took us about 20 minutes. To get there, you hop out just on a win you want your job will hit the floor. I'm telling you Scott as silly as that sounds. No, I'm seeing the pictures. I just kept saying, look at how many there like it just goes on for miles and miles. And so go see it. You'll be glad you did. All right. Quick break for the news. Sam Steve the third Dana Wright. My name is Scott Parks here on KMBC. Thanks for listening to the Dana and Parks podcast. Remember you can catch us online anytime at KMBC.com. You're listening to the Dana and Parks podcast on KMBC. That storm over the weekend. Hello. You all right, Independence? Oh, do you see Santa Caligon days and the tents and there were booths that lost,

36:19quote, 100% of their product to that storm vendors. They had warned. It was like a slight chance, but then you know, like if it does happen, it could be powerful and mighty and quick. That is exactly what we got. We were sitting on the front porch and it started to rain a little bit. It was already windy. And then the storm like blew the rain right into our face. I mean, it's stung and you were of course out golfing. Were yes. Yes. How did that go down? Well, right as we could see the cloud shelf, the wall and they hadn't. Blared the horns yet, but I understand nature and electricity enough to be dangerous. And I was with my son and I said, we're done. We are done. And by the time we had announced we're done, horns were sounded and we drove in through some of the rain. But you know, we ended up hearing lightning when we got in that shook the earth.

37:19Yeah. 34,000 without power. The earth. No, it's not 34,000 still, but it was a high. All the way down to 5,000 by Monday morning. They worked very quickly. I was close enough to the Shawnee Mission football field that I could hear the Shawnee Mission South football field that I could hear their announcement clearing everybody out of the stadium. Get out. And it was blue skies. And I'm like, what do you mean there's lightning in the area? And sure enough, it was a weird weekend. Yesterday morning, you know, we're kind of city adjacent here. I would not call this a wouldsy where we are per se. Outside of Antioch Park and then further west Shawnee Mission Park. Yeah, sure. And I missed this, but Johnny was out on a walk with Bertie and they were rounding the corner to come back to the house. And he saw an eight point buck. Did he get his gun casually, not even jump over the fence, but casually just maneuver, just over the fence, went into our front yard,

38:23turned around and just stared kind of like in a horror movie where the deer are staring at you and you feel like like the end of days is near and then just stroll right into our backyard. I don't know what happened to it. I understand bucks travel alone. And maybe they are in. Is it mating season or rutting season? I don't know what it is or why he was there. I don't think they're mating. It's too warm, I think, for mating season. That's usually like late fall winter. Yeah, rutting season doesn't happen until mid-November. I was like, are you sure? He came in because you're not going to believe what we just saw. Did you see it? No, by the time we ran out to go get another look, it was, he had moved on. And now when you were concerned, did you say, oh dear. I did say I'm say, oh dear. Get out. Sorry, Toby does the jokes. Also, what exactly does eight points mean because I didn't know? Like, is that what you? That's the number of like, okay. Why didn't you ask Johnny? Because he's like, it was an eight point, maybe ten point.

39:25I don't, and I thought, is that what you get when you shoot them? Like, that's legitimately what I thought. No, it is the number of points on the rack. It's a game and you get points. Like, four and four. I don't know. I don't go around shooting animals. And I do understand we need to call the deer. I'm not saying that, but it's not my thing. So if it had two points, it would be a two point deer. Anyway, this was a big one. Right in our front yard. Okay. What was Bernie going to do? I just went wild. I said, yeah, good luck with that. Yeah. This story from the New York Post, one of the heroes who jumped into duct tape and unruly airline passenger has been identified as a New Jersey gun range owner who gave the nut bag of blunt wake up call during the racist and homophobic debacle. Richard O'Lennic, 53, was traveling aboard American Airlines flight, 618 from Dallas to Newark on Thursday night when Arthur Lundin went on his violent meltdown, said O'Lennic,

40:28I don't love to fly and he just looks at me and goes, we're all going to die. This plane is going to crash. And I said, you're going to meet a couple of new friends when we land. O'Lennic was traveling with one of his employees, a retired cop, as they headed back from a gun expo in Reno. May I? Oh, please, Dan. Okay. I have so many things to say about this. First of all, when you are in a safe place, not driving. If you don't go to my Dana Wright K and BZ page to look at the photo, I need you to find the photo of them duct taping this man who, by the way, has a first name Lane with a Y, middle name Arthur, last name Lundin. And I bring that up because Lane Arthur, Lundin, went on his Kuku Kichu rant, tried to choke the passengers seated next to him, and then bit the retired off-duty police officer gun range guy.

41:31So follow me here. Okay. All while seated in first class. Do we know what Lane does for a living? He was a Tucson real estate agent and the vice president of a real estate agency. He has been relieved of those duties. Well, I'm sure he could still sell houses. He's just no longer. They don't want anything to do with them anymore. They don't want him being the face of their realty firm. Right. Got it. I need to just, we have to talk about this story. I don't know why I am obsessed with what went down here. Part of it's the photo. If you haven't seen it, he is duct taped head chest arms to his seat. Like picture something out of a cartoon where it's like a roll and a half of duct tape is now gone and he is not moving. Okay. He did not need the seat belt when the plane came down for landing. Where is all this duct tape on a flight?

42:32They keep them on planes now for this specific reason. Is that true? Yes. I've read more about this that I'm obsessed with this story. He looks exactly like Mayhem in the auto insurance commercials. I know because I'm Mayhem and I cause Mayhem. It is Mayhem. He looks exactly like the actor in a Mayhem commercial. But while they're filming a Mayhem commercial because he's duct taped to a chair, that's number one. Number two, the guy that did the duct taping former law enforcement officer is Billy Bob Thornton. He looks exactly like him. If he's not seen the photo, it looks like Billy Bob Thornton is in a Mayhem commercial and he's duct taped to his chair. Let me ask you a question. You can ask me anything. Okay. This didn't happen when we were younger. No, it did not. People losing their ever loving mind on airplanes. I believe it was like a 5,400 percent increase once COVID came around. I believe that is correct.

43:33Yeah. Numbers have come down since COVID, but it's still about a thousand incidents per year. So is this, he's crazy, had too much to drink, ingested something maybe before he got on the plane. 67 years old. I don't know. I don't know. He's sober doing this stuff. I mean, he wouldn't be a successful real estate agent if he was walking around being a racist sober. If I may, I would like during the break to find the interview with either the guy who was seated right next to him, who was almost choked to death. This lane former real estate guy, first class, had his hands around the passengers neck, right? Just seated right next to him. He goes for the guy's neck. Then when off duty officer says I knew because he was there with another off duty officer coming back from a gun conference, he said we didn't even think twice. We knew we had to jump up, get in between them, help that guy. While they're trying to subdue this guy, he's bitten, lane bit, the cop trying to duct tape

44:40him down. I do love the loose mummification that they did with him with this duct tape. I mean, it is all the way up and down his door. You call that loose? Well, okay, you know what I mean. It brings me to my third point. It's not moving. It brings me to my third point. These are federal charges. I don't know that we're going to have the courtesy of seeing the mugshot, however. Here's what I do now. Lane boarded that flight with eyebrows. And then when they took him off that flight, the eyebrows were left behind on the duct tape. So if you can just picture the guy that looks just like me, him, in a mehem ad, Sans eyebrows, what his mugshot is going to look because the FBI when they boarded that plane, they're not going to rip it off. Like when you were a child and your mom was like, I'm going to help you with that bandaid. I have a feeling that duct tape came off slowly and deliberately as did his brows. Well, so did his hair then because they did not care where the duct tape went.

45:42It is wrapped around his head. And mummification is a great word, Sam. He looks like he's been, he's been mummified. And a scene out of Scooby-Doo. Right. When did this start? You know, Scott, Mid-Melt, meltdown. He can't be not intelligent. He knows everyone has a cell phone. He is screaming the worst language you can imagine. What were the, keep it clean, the racist things that he said? It was racist and, and I believe homophobic toward the staff, toward the flight attendants. First, then came the choking, then came the biting. That's my understanding. Racial screaming, then choking, then biting. He has to know everyone has a cell phone. Sure. Everybody does. There's nothing he can say today that you're being like, okay, that makes sense. So my house.

46:42What is going on? Yeah. In I sell Tucson guy. You know he's on billboards. Why? That's a great question. And again, I go back to what I said a minute ago. This didn't happen when we were younger. And I don't know if everybody's getting their loopy loop on before they get on the plane, whether mental health issues are just that much worse, I have no idea. I think it's a combination of things. I think some blame has to be given to the airlines, not for this particular guy and his behavior, but for the overarching theme because we are treated like cattle. We, everything has a charge. You can't do X, you can't do Y. But I think most of the blame has to go on the American people and the fact that we just feel such entitlement now that you're not going to tell me I can't do something. Well, let me ask you this. Did these things go on before and we just never heard about it because now everybody

47:45has a phone, they can take your picture. I think we went from DB Cooper. Then decades of just nothing happening to were right in the middle of this insanity. Have either of you been on a flight where somebody acted before? No, but I am always ready. I have actually been on two flights where people were acting a fool and neither of them were in the United States and neither of them were American. I got the lucky European crazies when I was flying to Bulgaria and back. Really? By the way, it was a 492% increase in 2021. The FAA received 6,000 reports. Is that because everybody was being asked to wear a mask? I think so. Yeah, you have to, I hit to say this, you have to go past the COVID year and not that I'm excusing it. No, of course. But it still boils down to about a thousand. So what was it in 2022? Incident of year. I'll get those numbers for you, but it says here that alcohol consumption has played a major role, cramped quarters and declining amenity quality, carry on bag friction, meaning

48:48well, but he was setting in first class. My bag is there. Operational delays, poor communication and just a broader shift in social and behavioral. I don't understand it. 913-586-779-8586-779-8 here on Dan and Parks. Okay, we just watched the video you can find it at what TMZ.com. Okay. We can't play it for obvious reasons. He says a number of words that are illegal. He is drunk. Listen to this though, the discussion that preceded the meltdown, he was seated next to a rabbi. Okay, because they've interviewed this rabbi. And witnesses say his discussion with rabbi con CAHN, you can, he's part of the story now.

49:52He has 1.4 million subscribers on YouTube. Get it out friendly and Lundine enjoyed one alcoholic beverage. On the plane day. Yeah, he was pre-gaming. The daily mail was first to report the story by interviewing the rabbi who said Lundine grabbed him by the throat, hit him and broke his laptop over their religious chat. The rabbi told the mail that within a split second during a two hour conversation. Oh, no. Now, Lundine turned quote into a demon and started cursing at him and God started shouting, it's all BS. Jesus is BS. Obviously, he didn't say BS. Yeah. Okay. And the rabbi would care about that because why? He's Jewish. Yeah. I, there was a 48 minute YouTube video of the rabbi breaking down what happened.

50:58Yeah, because the best place to get into a religious discussion is nowhere. Right. I was just going to say nowhere. But if you are a rabbi and someone is asking you questions, they got into a, I don't mean say got into it, they had a conversation about religion. And at one point, Kuku Kuchu apparently said, I am a Christian or I was, but I feel very judged after my divorce and the rabbi replied. Like almost counseling him, I think, talking about his own experiences with God. And then like that, he said he jumped up whispered, I think this whole thing is BS into his ear and then all hell broke loose pun intended. It is, there's a solid chance that this rabbi was just hanging out on the plane, minding his own business and drunken McReal Estate guy over here was like, let's start talking about Jesus because you're obviously not a believer. I'm just assuming I don't know.

51:59Who starts conversations with people they don't know on a plane? I have never done that. Oh, I've had conversations that lasted the entire plane ride all the way out into the, the tarmac. Oh, you're the one. I've, I've continued a conversation to the baggage claim area and been like, hey, with great talking, where the, I'm going to go now. Really? Oh, yeah. He raved for a maniac for a good 10 minutes, making everyone around them aware trouble was brewing. The discussion started out friendly. He had one alcoholic beverage during that discussion. Okay. And then he grabbed the rabbi. Do you think that's, do you think that's all the alcohol he had in the system? Probably not, but, but Scott, even if, let's say you have two or three drinks at the airport bar and, or at the sky club, and then you go on this plane and you have one drink. Being intoxicated or even buzzed does not automatically turn you into a raging racist

53:05misogynistic, violent lunatic. And what does? He was already that way. That's my point. You don't just have a perfectly normal life in career and you never have these thoughts. And then all of a sudden you get on an airplane and somehow I've had a few drinks. Now I'm going to start dropping the worst words in the English language. No, I think to some extent, alcohol is a truth serum. Like that is who you really are without the guardrails up. And so no, no, no. I think that that was just the fuel to his already racist engine, if you will. What I'm saying is, I mean, even if, all right, let's say he did have five drinks at the airport, sky club, and then one on the plane that still doesn't make you that intoxicated that you're going to say these horrible, horrible things and look and engage your rabbi in a two hour conversation about God.

54:08And then jump up and tell the rabbi that Jesus is BS. By the way, the text line is like, why is a rabbi in first class? I know. He's an author. He's not just a rabbi. Again, he has 1.4 million subscribers on YouTube. Yeah. It does very well for himself. You had asked about the number Scott 2017, 544 unruly passenger reports. 544. 899 the following year. Hey, we're going up 1161, 109 in 2021. We had 5,973 unruly passenger. And that's people being told to mask up and then no, I'm not masking up. So go to the next year. 2022, we had 2500. Oh, we're going down, but still too high. Halfway, more than halfway. Yep. 2023 2000. We dropped another 500. Good. Went back up in 24, back up to 2100. Election year. I don't know what's, oh, okay. And then 2025 1600 so far this year, we're sitting at just over 1100 unruly passenger

55:11reports. How come I never get to see one? Statistically, it's still relative. I mean, because of all of the flights that there are every single day, but when I said I'm always ready for it, I'm not kidding you. When we are seated on a plane, I will look around and think, okay, where's the crazy McCrazy? Like, it would be just, I just want to be ready. I don't know. I think sometimes I sell to son. Yeah, you know he's on a bill was you know he was on a billboard somewhere. Um, he'll never work again. He doesn't need to be 67. Well, what, where do, where does someone like that go from here? You're now a meme. He's literally a meme. That photo of him duct tape. I mean, just plead no contest, move out of town and retire. I mean, maybe he could sell in like, Waco. Okay, you want him selling your house? No.

56:12It could be that he was taking some other stuff like Xanax or something. I'm trying to figure out how one drink and he's screaming Jesus his BS and he, in one fell swoop was violent. First of all, the assault in the battery. But you are never, ever going to be in any industry where your clients are women, your clients are black or your clients are Jewish. You left out gay or gay. Sorry. So, so he could take out a billboard literally that says, if you're a straight white guy, that secretly is a closeted racist misogynist and all like, bigot, I'll sell your house. I mean, he's done. He's done. Somebody on the text line says, I've been saying this for years. We need to stop serving alcohol on planes. This is not indicative of a problem of alcohol being served on planes. He had one drink on the plane. Yeah.

57:12What we need to figure out is what was he doing before he got on the plane? And it's no secret. I'm not giving away an industry secret here. When you walk onto a plane, there's always a flight attendant there to say, hello, how are you doing? They're not there because they care how you're doing. They're there to gauge your behavior. Do you look like you've had too much to drink? Are you acting a little off? That's why they're there. And that's the only reason they're there. I can go to Florida. Somebody says he'll fit in just fine. What don't say that? I would like to think no one would hire someone like that. I know that that's also from the problem. They're not accurate. You think the real estate market sucks for us. It really sucks for him now. 913-586-7798-586-7798. Here on Dan M. Parks. So if you listen to the show with any regularity, I'm a huge Wheel of Fortune fan.

58:16Our announcer Jim Forton was fired last week after he was spotted on a plane on... Sam, can you describe the chat form that he was in? Yeah. So this is... It goes way back to these chat pages have been around since the dawn of the internet. There's no fancy formatting or anything. It's literally just username, colon, whatever they said. This particular chat forum happened to be one for people who were... I'm going to use the term suffering from pedophilic thoughts and wanted some support allegedly. Now. In getting over those thoughts, however, the messages that were displayed on the screen and the screenshots or the pictures that we got from the other passenger, they were joking about the thoughts that they had and couldn't believe that we're doing this type of chat room on a plane. And I was thinking about... I'm not even going to go in with the message. Jim Thorne, who's the guy that says, and please welcome the stars of our show.

59:17Blubba blubba. He was on Fridays and last night's show. Wow. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They've scrubbed him from his Alma Mater's website because apparently two years ago he gave or last year he gave the commencement address and was also like the grand marshal of some parade. You know, we talk about things you're not going to come back from. You know, Sony has fired him. As they should. I don't know where someone goes from there. I mentioned this on Friday. Does somebody get a warrant to look at his home phone and computers and all of that stuff? Because I don't believe you accidentally stumble on a website like that for 57 minutes. No. And then Google, did you read this? Once the flight attendant came over and said, we're going to need you to close your laptop. He then Googled on his cell phone and the witness has a screen shot of that.

1:00:20He essentially Googled, can I be tracked on an airplane looking up? Content. How would somebody know who I was? Was was what he Googled after the flight attendant said, we're going to need you to close your laptop. How do they know that did the lady who had photographed him earlier, take a photo of that as well? Yes, because I think Scott, she was seated not. So he's in the aisle on the right hand side of the plane. He's in the aisle. She's in the aisle on the left hand side of the plane. She's behind him. And just behind him one rose. I think you've been on a plane. You can see if someone's watching a movie. I have watched an entire movie without audio before because the person across from me and one row up in the aisle is watching a movie. Like which also says to me, he's an idiot or so narcissistic. He just didn't think he would be caught while wearing a wheel of fortune jacket. No, he joked about not being caught in one of the. Yeah. That you could say one of the messages. Can you clean it up and read that line?

1:01:22I was to the tune of I can't believe we're doing. I'm doing this on a plane in 30,000 feet up or something like that. And somebody else responded and was like, well, are you going to get caught? And he was like, no, they don't know what's going on. It's just a bunch of random text on a screen. Well, people can read, bro, allegedly. Do you think that the story would be different today if it were actually like maybe he was suffering from pedophilic thoughts? Maybe he was seeking assistance on some chat room for him. Well, you don't do that when you're on a plane. It's obvious that this particular chat room was not to seek assistance. No, they just wanted to share their. They were sharing nasty thoughts illegal. Do you think if it were actually like I have pedophilic thoughts calm, please help slash please help me? It would be a different story to no, no, I don't know. I don't know. I don't. Again, he was wearing a wheel of fortune jacket and he is representing the show. He's a recognizable person. He's wearing the jacket.

1:02:25Wheel of fortune and Sony are going to say you were representing the show in public. And because of that, you have to go. Number of people are saying last night was a rerun. Well, they're all technically rerun. You would still think they would have scrubbed it. These are all recorded well in advance. But even if it was not a rerun, Friday, I think was a new episode and it was or he was not scrubbed out of it. The last thing I will say is if you have not seen the photo, the wheel of fortune logo is on the bicep area of the jacket. I keep bringing up the jacket because you would have to be so narcissistic, want to be recognized that you're wearing that. But then at the same time, you are going to one of the most vile illegal, vulgar content websites we can imagine would prefer not to, right? While wearing your boss's merchandise, he's never coming.

1:03:29He's not. He is never coming back from this. He doesn't need to. He makes somewhere between a half a million and a million dollars a year. He's up there in age. He doesn't need the job. Sell your LA home and move to the Midwest and live another country, do we? Well, yeah, we don't need you here. But I'm captivated by this idea that you have Dana. And I'm not being critical of it, that he needs to have his laptop confiscated and looked through. I don't know what he did on that plane. Well, on ethical, immoral, long, I'm not sure that he broke law. And I can't believe I'm defending it. Let me ask you this. We know that just viewing those images is illegal, just viewing them is illegal, right? And so if that was a website where there were words being typed, so the words, you might

1:04:31be able to say not illegal, but was it not also a website where there were files or photos being shown? I believe that if you, you know, not right there on the screen, but- I'm not going to the website to find out. No, I'm not either. But at that point, Scott, just being on that website, are you not committing a crime? Yes, if there are files actually being shared by others, and you're not going- For losing. And you're not going, oh my God, I need to get off this website for 57 minutes, because it's a mistake. That would be receiving child porn. I don't understand why that is not probable cause enough to look through his stuff. And I would suggest to you that it is not, I think it would be extremely likely they would find something there. I don't think you accidentally end up on website like that. And I, it's disgusting. And I don't want us to say about it, you know what? I still feel the need to say alleged in this story. Yeah, I don't know why. Can we also discuss the lawyer's response?

1:05:33He probably actually had suicide in his family. He probably actually supports people going to suicide hotlines, chat rooms, whatever. The lawyer saying he has suicide in his family. He was trying to go to the 988 Lifeline website and accidentally ended up on this site is abhorrent. Yeah, because it's not believable. Why would you say that? Why would you say that? Because it's there for 50 some odd minutes. What are we doing? You are reaching for straws trying to find- She was trying to put out a fire. Yeah, trying to find anything and everything that might, might- And get your time to draw. She even mind the first day it was, oh, this is a mix up. It was the next day that the passenger said, okay, you want to play that game? Here's the timestamps. He was there 57 minutes. Tell me again about your accidental, I'm supposed to be on a suicide helpline. But how did this- State under wraps for what? Six months? Six months, yeah, it was early March. It's gone, I don't know. I mean, how did this just get out unless, and I said this on Friday, she was shopping these

1:06:38images around to the National Enquirer, you know, Globe magazine, whatever. And nobody was biting because Jim Thornton's just the voice guy on Wheel of Fortune. I think- Scott, I don't know. I'd be hard pressed to believe that the wheel nor Sony didn't know about this, or to use double negatives. I think they knew about it in March. Somebody says who has jurisdiction in the air, the federal government? It was the FBI that- Did the FBI question him or look into it, or was it local authorities that met him after the plane ended? I think it was local authorities. Local police, yeah. All right. 1-3-5-8-6-779-8-5-8-6-779-8 here on Dana and Parks. Kansas City sports fans are about to hear a familiar voice three times in four days. General Wilson, who we've had on the program before, a Navy veteran, who has performed

1:07:41the National Anthem and several sporting events, will perform it at three Kansas City sporting events this week alone. Oh, wow. He's going to be at Friday's current match, Saturday's sporting match, and then he's doing Monday night football. We have to see if we could get him on the program on Monday. When he sings America the Beautiful, I weep. God bless America. You've heard his- God bless Mike. A talent. Yep. Our vegans sexier than the rest of us. The answer apparently is absolutely according to the scientific journal recent progress in nutrition. Sam, I'm trying to subscribe. Cover to cover babe. Yeah anything grow vegan. I'm there. A team of researchers found that plant-based diets are good for more than just losing weight and increasing long term health. Okay. finish the sentence, a comma, as has been repeatedly suggested and that gobbling up your

1:08:43garden can actually boost one's personal curb appeal. Go ahead Sam, period. Okay, believe it ever you want to believe that's all I got. That's fine. Something tells me that that study was probably funded by vegans of America or something. How do you know if somebody's a vegan? Don't worry, they'll tell you. Stop it. Well, you can smell them coming too. Sam, you all that is not true. Yes, it is. No, it is not. How many vegans do you have? I'm the most granola person on this program. I, yes, I know vegans like up the top of my head six, the number six. I probably know six vegans. I don't know any vegans. Certainly vegetarians. I know people who went vegan for like two or three years and could not figure out why they could never get healthy and then started eating meat again and miraculously felt better. It's crazy for everyone. That's why I said, believe it you want to believe it shouldn't be for anyone.

1:09:47Stop it. I have some good news for you that I put in my stack. Now it does involve a trip out west for you, but there is a museum. Is there a beach? No, yes. I'm not going. There is a museum opening here in about a week and a half. Where are my starwars people? Right here. Uh, George Lucas is opening a starwars museum. The outside of it looks like a spaceship. Unlike anything you've ever seen, it is the coolest looking. Not a spaceship you see in starwars. Architectural marvel. It is millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars. And inside Scott, it is all of the memorabilia. That's awesome. It's all anything you can imagine. Star Wars. It is there. Where is it? September 22nd. Pretty sure it's LA. So you would have to go to Los Angeles. Nope.

1:10:48I will never step foot in the city of Los Angeles as long as I would love it. No. The people watching California is a beautiful place. A beautiful place. All the traffic. Oh, I thought San Francisco was bad. More than 16 years after first proposing a cultural institution dedicated to visual storytelling, filmmaker George Lucas and his wife will open their long awaited museum in LA September 22nd. Oh, by the way, it has cost him around $1 billion of his own money to build. B, $1 billion. His private collection of all kinds of memorabilia you will find inside. You know, and there was a time when people didn't think that was going to be a hit. Harrison Ford was convinced it wasn't going to be a hit. And look at it now. One of the most successful franchises in movie history. Do you think that he is regretting destroying all of the live action, you know, spaceships

1:11:51and things that he made? All of that was real. They made a real, I think all of the names have left me the ship. All the ships. Yes. Well, they were just, they were little models. He, but he destroyed all of them after the fact because he didn't want them to become collector's items. Huh. Quick break for the news. She's Dana Wright. I got over there. Sam Steve the third. My name is Scott. You're on KMBC. Thanks for listening to the Dana and Parks podcast. Remember, you can catch us online anytime at KMBC dot com. You're listening to the Dana and Parks podcast on KMBC. The border war is Friday night. Oh, yeah, 7 p.m. Mizzou versus KU. Missouri's favorite Dana. Yep. Mm hmm. I like not a lot, by the way. This is the first time that that Mizzou and KU will play in Lawrence since 2005. Yeah. Yeah, I think two years ago was in Columbia.

1:12:53I thought it was an arrowhead. Maybe it was arrowhead. We'll see what happens. I know what's going to happen. I love your optimism, but as a KU fan, we know what's going to happen. It's not going to be pretty. Like I asked the guys in the sports department. I said, are the royals mathematically eliminated yet? I'm carrying some looks and he goes, not yet, but and then Rob goes might as well be. Well, might as well be is not yes. They did lose last night. Mm hmm. What? The royals lost? You still holding out, huh? Yeah, a little bit. Okay. A little bit. Okay. A little bit. You wanted to talk about 9-11. I do. Um, I, let me call up the name of the thing. I spent this morning watching a documentary on Netflix. It's relatively short and it is a Sam and it is called Turning Point Generation 9-11.

1:13:57And you know, when you're scrolling around for content as we marched toward this 25th anniversary, I can't believe that. It can be overwhelming because so many documentaries have been done. There have been so many documentaries, right? This is a 2026 documentary. It's an hour 30. Oh, that is a Sam. And I really do think it's worth a watch. Turning Point, it is on Netflix, Generation 9-11. So turning point is a series where they do other things as well if I'm not mistaken. It's very well done. It can be turning point Titanic or... One of the things they do is they interview relatively young people like Sam's age. And, you know, they all start out by saying I was two years old when it happened or I was four years old when I was six months old when it happened. They interviewed the daughter of the pilot that was on the plane that would be downed over Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

1:14:58And you know, she talks about she has this like alternative in her mind, this struggle between the life that she has and she knows. And this other life... You could have been over here because she never knew her father and what the life she was supposed to have might have looked like. But one of the interesting things about it, we don't talk politics on this show, but I'm going to mention this only because it spans multiple administrations, is that in the wake of those attacks, we were all raw raw, do what you have to do to exact whatever justice looks like and quite frankly revenge. Oh, sure. Right after those attacks, right? And it gets into the sort of the war powers that quickly almost unanimously were signed into law. Give them a like the Patriot Act. Giving the then president, you know, the Department of Homeland Security was born out of that. Like all of the things that if you're listening in your 20s or 30s or 40s right now, you've never really known life without those things, right?

1:15:59You've never known life going on doing airplane and you've got to put all the stuff in the bin and all of this stuff was born out of 9.11. And it talks about the problem post 9.11 with the American public sort of allowing, certainly Congress allowing those unchecked powers and then everything that came after it. We're in the beginning, of course, we got, we want to burn it down. Let's go find who did this. Let's give the president the pen and you go. And I think it was almost unanimous. America was like, yes. We were fearful. Yes. And we had. Yes. And I think that there were a lot of things in Americans in any other time would not have accepted. But you know, and I'm so quickly. And I heard somebody in one of the cable channels today say, this was the first time and it hasn't, you know, not the first time, but this was the most in your face terrorism

1:17:00attack that the United States had really ever, or at least in the common era had seen witnessed firsthand. You know, for so many of us, it was, you know, terrorism was something that happened over there. Yeah, yeah. You know, it didn't happen here. And we were afraid. Let's be honest with ourselves. We were pissed. We were afraid. We didn't know what was next. They didn't know what was next the next day. One of the things that survivor, survivors that they interview talk about is when you were watching that footage, it's hard to put into words the real terror and fear that in that moment, we didn't know if another bomb was going to happen. We didn't know whenever. Thought the building was, we're going to fall down. We didn't know the next day if there was going to be an attack. And the documentary really gets to the heart of how this has shaped an entire generation of people who were barely or not even alive when this happened, right? And they interview people who signed up for the military Scott, for all of the right reasons

1:18:01I am going to sign up and we are going to go fight this war on terror. And some of them are shockingly frank about their views when we started out. We're going to go after the bad guys, right? And then where we've ended up and and what do you mean by that? Well, sort of, I want to get you in here. One of the soldiers is like, we did all of this and fought and, you know, for the right reasons in the beginning and then because of the vacuum that was left when this war happened, it's just backfilled with more bad people under a different name. And politically, this is not going after President Bush at all. I think, you know, the America did what it thought needed to be done in the immediate aftermath. Let's go. Well, they haven't reversed it. But should it have stayed and it talks about the Obama administration and the drone strikes, all of the collateral damage that we saw from, quote, targeted drone strikes and then

1:19:06all the way up to present day and why we are here and what it means globally and it's very well done. Sam, what were you going to say? Just to Dana's point, the fact that we went in there to take care of the Taliban, I'll use the term take care of. And now they're not only back in power, have a larger hold on the country and the firepower that they are using was built by us. That is correct. That is correct. It is called turning point generation 9.11. And when you think generation, think those who never really knew mom or dad because that, you know, we're really knocking at the door of this entire generation of people that this truly is something that they mentioned in school, Scott. Well, you got to think, I mean, now that we're in another war in the Middle East, how many years of peace has the average or the typical American who's 25 years old actually

1:20:07experienced? How much, how many years? Four, five? There were only four when we did not have an active conflict in the Middle East. And then I just want to mention this because this is bittersweet, but it did bring a smile to my face. The White House today awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to a man named Wells Crowder. You know him. He's the man in the Red Bandana. Credited with saving more than a dozen people from the World Trade Center on 9.11. His mother and his sister accepted the Post-Germis Award, the nation's highest civilian honor during a ceremony paying tribute to the first responders who died today. And if you've missed the documentary, the man in the Red Bandana, my God, that's another one. Go back and watch that. You know, Sam, I don't feel sorry for your generation, but I want to because you guys have never really known a nation at peace.

1:21:08Yeah, I mean, and then you take in all the different storylines that we hear about it. I mean, Dana brought up the strikes under the Obama administration. We were fed certain messages that entire time. That was about the time that I started obsessing over politics was because we were fed certain messages and then they would interview people from those countries. And it was like, well, wait a minute. Who's telling the truth here? What's actually going on? And yeah, I don't know. You know, and of the two wars that came out of 9-11 specifically, Afghanistan to a lesser degree, Iraq, it's hard to argue that we won either one of those wars. I don't think we've won any of it quite frankly. We've taken out some scary leaders, some scary terrorist organization leaders. Yeah. One of the soldiers says, what are we doing? Mm-hmm. I mean, think about it. Other than the Cold War, which really wasn't a war, what's a war that the United States is one in your and my lifetime.

1:22:10Going down a rabbit hole. You're going down a rabbit hole? No, that would just be going down a rabbit hole. I mean, I think they would have said that Operation Iraqi Freedom was over like that. Oh, I forgot about Kuwait. You're right. Little to no casualties. And then did that not just create other problems, I don't know. 913-586-779-8586-779-8. Roger on Dana in parks. Story here from CBS News. Patrick Clancy, Lindsay Clancy's ex-husband issued a scathing statement to conspiracy theorists who have been claiming that he was involved in the deaths of the couple's children. Quote, there will be consequences. He should sue everybody. Death is enough. This spread of blatant and baseless falsehoods must stop. He said through his attorney Howard Cooper, as attention to Lindsay Clancy's trial intensified

1:23:12over the summer, some conspiracy theory started to spread online claiming that Patrick Clancy could be responsible for the crime even though that never came up in court. In fact, he was the first witness to testify against his wife, which ended with a mistrial last week. Jerry deadlocked. Lindsay Clancy admitted through her attorney that she killed their three children in their Massachusetts home in January of 2023, but she pleaded not guilty to first degree murder. Now, I think all these people making these claims are absolute loons. That's why we've made fun of them for weeks on end. However, does addressing it not provide some legitimacy to ignore it, dude? You know what you didn't do. No, but if you've got that many people saying he's damned if he does and he damned if he don't because you got that many people saying, well, I think those, but at some point, do you not have to defend yourself and say enough is enough? I see where you were both of you are coming from, but I'm with Dana on this one.

1:24:14I mean, people are online who have no idea what they're talking about. Okay, we can all agree to that, right? That these are just truly conspiracy theories. The crazy, yes, crazy. And they're accusing you of the worst day in your life when the day that you lost your three children and they're saying you did it, even though there is zero evidence to back up what they are claiming. I don't blame, I mean, I'm assuming by there will be consequences. He's talking about defamation. I mean, notice not one legitimate news source has even touched that. No, it would be a joke if they did. And there's a reason they're not touching it. Number one, you're going to be sued because it isn't true. Well, CBS is just festering on the internet. CBS has picked it up only because he now said, there's going to be consequences. I'm going after the people who did this, said this.

1:25:16I mean, is doesn't he have to prove though the negative impact to him? No, because he's a private citizen arguing for devil's ad. You just have to prove malice. You just have to prove malice and it is malicious. I mean, now where do you begin? Do you sue, you know, Marge in Southern Florida, who's bored and has nothing better to do than then get on these websites? Like he's going to have to find, you know, I say sue everyone in air quotes, but who, where do you begin and who do you sue? You only sue the biggest content creators because Joe Schmoh is not going to have a pocket to pull from. Yeah. I mean, in full wars, wouldn't even touch this. I was almost going to say it took a, it's a long time, much too long, but it's finally what brought that dingbat down. Alex Jones. Yes. Refused to say his name. Okay. But I mean, even the crazy conspiracy theory content creators weren't even touching this one. Because there's nothing there.

1:26:17But I go back to what I said to both you and Dana last week. You all know someone who believes that Patrick Clancy did it. And we need to have a serious conversation about the aftermath of this mistrile situation. First of all, we've already seen a Lindsey Clancy obsessed woman. I don't even want to get into the gruesome detail. But the child has is now gone. And I'm sure is going to claim postpartum psychosis because she was obsessed with Lindsey Clancy. The child was two and you're right, Sam, that neighbors immediately were like, this is just like Lindsey Clancy. I said earlier, you'd be very careful green lighting that behavior or at least glossing over that behavior and what was done in that case or we're going to have a slew of other cases where people are trying to claim rightly or wrongly that that's what was going on when the unthinkable happened.

1:27:17And then we were at the lake over the weekend and we were in a cove just hanging out and you know, you can over here are the other people partying and hanging out. You can hear their conversations. I heard multiple groups talking about Lindsey, the Lindsey Clancy trial. And I also heard two separate groups of people make the joke. Oh, I'm a woman. I can get away with it. Wow. Because of my hormones. Wow. From the text line, I am really shocked and baffled by y'all stance on this. I can't think of a time that I have not been on the page with y'all. But to call us conspiracy theorists or crazies for thinking Patrick is responsible, I am just mind blown right now. I am so shocked right now. I'm even angry to some extent at the thought that he just should have stayed home. He was working from home. And I've said this before, when something like that is going on in your house and someone is struggling and they are getting care because she was, are you just, are you supposed to quit your job until you lose your house and you lose your livelihood and just stare

1:28:21at that stare at that person? I don't know what he was supposed to do. Never leave the house ever. Is she fit, was she in a, in a physical condition where she could not have gone and got, I'm not blaming anybody here. No, I know you're not. I'm not blaming him. Like could she drive? Could she go get on that, those myths? I don't know the answer to that guy. So she function reasonably, she went to the doctor's office that morning with her daughter and had a well check at the pediatricians office. Was she the driver of the car? I believe he was not there when that went down that morning. She was functioning well enough that she had committed herself at some point and been released. Look, the system failed and often fails new mothers. I have nothing but sympathy for anyone who's gone through that and struggled to find help or don't have the resources to find help. But simply just saying this is his fault is, it's a shiny object.

1:29:23In my opinion, is irresponsible. I think that the, first of all, the people who are saying, you know, Patrick Clancy did this or he shouldn't have left the house that day and gone to get her meds and I think Chinese take out or something like that are the, the same people who, who want to believe that she is not guilty. And the only way that you can rationalize that she is not guilty is by saying, well, he must have done it. And he threw her out of a window, which there is absolutely zero evidence to back that. And if there was, she has one of the fiercest, best criminal defense attorneys in the country. Don't you think that would have been their defense? If this was so true and so believable, that attorney would have said, you know what, we're going to offer an alternative theory and here it is. And he did not do that. In fact, they conceded that she killed those kids. Why would he, his whole job is to offer the most robust defense. Get his client out of what she has found herself in.

1:30:26Why would the attorney not have said, you know what, we're just going to say he did it and he didn't. I have not been that impressed with a defense lawyer in a long time. He was good. Why do you think this particular case is so divisive? Since the mistrial, I've seen hundreds of postings about all of the men out there and women, quite frankly, who were diagnosed with schizophrenia and killed their kids, who were diagnosed with XYZ and killed their kids. Many of them, by the way, got the death penalty in their respective states. Lisa Montgomery. Sam. Why is this particular case such a, I don't know. Tender box. I don't know. Young attractive family certainly doesn't hurt the attention that this case ended up getting. And I said it to you guys in the newsroom last week. I'll say it on the air. When you see pictures of Lindsey Clancy pre-arranged, you know, she quote looks normal. And she's very attractive.

1:31:26And I don't think that hurt her. When we get back a very controversial proposal, controversial on both sides of the aisle, by the way, where they are considering a new policy in the United States that would sort of pay, stay at home parents under certain circumstances. What? Oh, yeah. But there are some qualifiers. There are some qualifier, not everybody who stays home with the kids would get paid. Who's going to pay them? The government. Oh, because we're not $40 trillion in debt right now. Mm hmm. 913 586 777 985 867 989 8 here on Dan and parks.

1:32:28Story here from news nation, but it was first reported by the New York Times. You can also find it on the Fox News website. The news is read from the New York Times. Well, I can't, I can't get in there. You have the subscription. I don't have it. Go ahead. Continue on. OK. The Trump administration has drafted a proposal that would pay some stay at home parents using funds from a federal program originally designed to help working families afford childcare. The stay at home parent child care subsidy proposal. I'm not going to. That's a kind of wordy originated within the White House, according to a White House official who spoke with news nation early reports had said the proposal came from vice president JD Vance's office. It doesn't matter. It's same administration. The New York Times reported the plan would create what could become the first federal grant program to directly compensate parents for staying home to raise their children. The proposed benefit would apply only to married couples.

1:33:28Funding would come from the child care and development fund. A program created during the Clinton administration to help low income and working class families pay for childcare. OK. There's more. If you want to. The program currently provides about $9,000 per child annually with funds typically paid directly to childcare providers. Under this proposal, eligible stay at home parents could receive payments directly from the federal government. OK. There's some qualifications. Well, you have to be married. Do you have to be married? You have to have one spouse working at least 35, 35 hours a week. Have this. The other spouse stay home to care for the children. And then there's some income requirements. The goal here for being honest is the family first forward before elections goal that we want a traditional parent.

1:34:31They don't say the woman, but you know that they mean the woman staying home to watch the kids and they are going to incentivize that. What if I am a woman who is single because I'm widowed? OK. Because my husband happened to be a firefighter or police officer who died in the line of duty. Single parents would not qualify. Hmm. It says it right there. Why do we just start paying everybody? You realize the move would also redirect the money that fund is usually for low to middle income families. Who need help? Like we're both working. We're both trying to make ends meet. Can't afford daycare. In essence, this would move that money from working families who need it to incentivize. Mom staying home and let's say it's $9,000.

1:35:34In order to stay home in this economy, Scott does one spouse not have to make a pretty significant amount of money. Or am I wrong for one of the one of the parents to stay at home? Yep. Forgo your salary and stay at home. Yeah, I think in today's day and age, but that's largely a creation of our own. Oh, yeah, we've created this. We've got to live in three car garage houses and you know, everybody's got to keep up with the Joneses. And so my home in Roland Park years ago in the 50s and 60s was a typical suburban home. Yeah. It was a three bedroom one bath, one car garage home still is. Now you've got to live in Leewood or Western Shawnee or Southern Overland Park. About 80% of the almost 900,000 families who currently get the childcare subsidy credit, okay?

1:36:3580% have single working parents and most of them are mothers. The policy change would effectively create a government incentive for parents and married households to stay home. I've also read this is a broader, broader goal is to get more people to have children. We've talked about that with Sam. No one has aged none of them are lining up to have kids right now. I find absolutely unbelievable that you are 29 years old and you don't have any friends or Mary Beth have any friends that have kids. Yeah. I did do a little bit more thinking and I when you extend our friend net to people, we don't talk to a whole lot. It's one. We have one. That's one. I don't know. Do we really think that this is an actual proposal or is this just a group of politicians looking to beef up their voter base?

1:37:35I mean, the money Sam, the problem is the money already exists. This would funnel it from one group of families currently receiving the subsidy to another. Well, and to your point, Dana, the people who actually need it the most are the single moms or single dads who have to go to work. I don't have a significant other. I have to go to work at my job doesn't pay me enough to take care of the house or the apartment. You know, a reasonable car and daycare daycare is outrageously expensive. Now, if you're married and you're lower income, go on you and hear some money according to this proposal. But if you're single and for reasons who knows, maybe it was a violent relationship, maybe your spouse died. Those are the people I would argue need the help.

1:38:36Am I wrong? What if you're married and you're receiving the money and then you divorce? Let's say you are fleeing an abusive situation. Like I for every, yeah, for every like, you know, raw raw, this is going to be great. You can come up with yeah, but what for this scenario? Same. I can't get a second job. I have to stay it. That was good. Take it. I know you. I was just adding on to it. From the text line, if you're a single mom, just go get married, problem solved. I feel like we're trying to fix a problem that's not the problem. Tell me more. I mean, there are many, many factors going into why people aren't having kids. It's not just the cost. And we can address the cost side of it from the cost side of it, not the paying for it side of it. Why is daycare so expensive? Why why why are all of these? Why is housing so expensive? We can address these things incrementally over time just because we've absolutely ruined the entire system.

1:39:38Doesn't mean we should just start pumping more money on it. That's probably how we ruin the system in the first place. And I'll tell you this Sam, when you start a family and I'm not telling you anything, you don't know. That childcare payment every month is the equivalent of a mortgage, a mortgage payment. Yeah. Be ready. And to your point, Sam, maybe that is why young American adults are not having kids. We're barely able to make the mortgage now. And then you want to add another $1,500 a month onto that? How are we going to get that money? It's got a Justin and Shawnee. Hello. And I don't know where you're getting your child there cost a week, three, six, eight a week for two kids. That equals that's about $36,000 a year in child care. So I don't know what this $9,000 is going to do for anybody. As a side note, I'm in my late 30s and I hadn't, we didn't have our first kid until we were 35 and well established in the careers. Like $9,000 is going to do nothing.

1:40:40It's a sentence. $680 a week for two of them, Justin. $680 a week for child care. And is that for two children or one? That's for two children, two. Okay. For what we found is about standards from what we found. But even still like that, that's more than our mortgage payment is a month by about $1800. I mean, when our kids are out of child care, we're a rich. Hi, well, I remember saying this and then you, you, you will eventually trade that for like, Oh gosh, now they're going to college. But you know, always expensive. You know that for soccer or for sure, yes. But and forgive me on my, on my outdated numbers, Justin, my, my daughters are 25 and 21. I haven't paid child care in years. I'd lucky. I just remember it was more than the mortgage payment. Wouldn't create it for anything, but I mean, $9,000. I don't really see how that's in that. And for me, that might sound pretentious, but $9,000. What is that really going to fix for a stay at home mom with or say at home dad, if the, you know,

1:41:43one is working and there's income requirements. Like what is that honestly going to do? Like maybe I'm maybe I'm. You're not just and because let's say you're making $50,000 a year. They're going to give you nine. That's before taxes, I assume to stay home. Well, I would assume that there if it's a government program like that, a benefits program, I'm assuming they're not going to give you nine thousand and take two thousand. Okay. So let's say it's nine. Let's say you're making $50,000 a year. So you are then foregoing, uh, 41,000 dollars a year to stay at home for nine. And to Justin's point, that math doesn't math. Now you want to pay me $50,000 to stay at home, then, then we'll start talking numbers. 913-586-779-8586-7798.

1:42:48From the New York Post, Americans are flocking to the movies again and they are back for more than just the Flix theater operators across the US. Are reporting the spendiest summer in years spendiest. As the nation rediscovered the classic joys of seeing the latest Hollywood fair in a packed house, raking in a whopping $4.6 billion in domestic ticket sales from May to August. That's just May to August said to be the best number since 2013. One chain reports that even the streaming diehards who still refuse to leave their homes are finding a way to participate in the fun by ordering giant bags of takeout popcorn. When we went to go see coyote versus acme, go see it. Halleries. They were running a special where you could bring in any bucket. I don't know if there are parameters on this, but they were saying like, I don't know. We went and saw the movie Saturday. And I think it was like, if you come back Sunday, we'll fill your bucket with popcorn.

1:43:50Okay. And it, you know, think like Home Depot orange bucket. That's a little too much popcorn. That being said, we got a small popcorn. Scott small. Okay. Is movie popcorn not the greatest thing you've ever had for the first like four handfuls? I hate popcorn and I like movie theater. Yeah, it's got the butter. It's nostalgic. You're like, oh my gosh, this movie popcorn is incredible. This is so good. And then about your fifth or sixth handful, it's like. And then like an hour later, you're like, uh, what just happened? Because your body is like, what the hell are you doing? You just adjusted three tubs about it, right? But it's still so good. So when they say, we'll fill your bucket. Who is going to go in there and eat like that much? They're not. They're going to take it home. Does it keep? I don't think so. AMC, which has roughly 850 theaters nationwide reported this week that food delivery sales. So like think door dash or Uber Eats, they're going to the movie theater

1:44:55and getting popcorn and then have it delivered to your home so you can watch streaming. No, AMC, AMC reported this week that food delivery sales are up almost 50% year over year. I never even would have thought about that. But if you're doing a movie night with the family and you want to just sack out on the couch, right? That is a great thing to order. Or just can you just walk into a movie theater and tell the ticket guy, look, I'm just here for popcorn. I promise I'm not here to scam you out of a movie. I just I'm going to go there. Get popcorn. Come back probably not would be my guess. I bet you they let you AMC's mega bag offering an oversized portion package for take out with a side of butter typically sells on the app for $25 before fees and tips. Wow. So you're going to stream at home. Yep. But you're going to get the mega bag from AMC. That's 25 bucks. I love it. Huh. By the way, Spider-Man led the box office this summer, of course, and then followed by the Odyssey.

1:46:02Story here from Channel 9 severe storms swept through Kansas City on Sunday night is everybody remembers leaving significant damage. And I think Sam, you mentioned this in passing earlier at the Salah, Santa Calagon days festival in independence wins up to 60 miles per hour. Yeah. Left shredded tent roofs, scatter merchandise, food debris all over the grounds. Officials reported no injuries despite the destruction. Sam, didn't you tell me that some of the vendors reported 100% merchandise loss all of their merchandise that they had out on display was gone. Hmm. Then listen to this couple struck by lightning while walking on Florida trail. Two people were rushed to a central Florida hospital on Wednesday. Last week after they were possibly quote struck by lightning walking together on a trail. First responders got there. Two people were on the ground. One wasn't breathing. Night there was a 911 call. They said we think we have been struck by lightning.

1:47:03Male was bleeding from the face when they got there's no question. This was lightning. They did CPR. Think they're both going to be okay. What are the odds that you struck by lightning together as a couple? Well, you're right next to each other, aren't you? Well, yeah, but does lightning strike you or does it strike the ground? And then you are, do you know what I'm saying? Thank God I don't know. It strikes the ground. So when we see a lightning strike, we think of it as one strike. In fact, it is actually millions of strikes. That's the only way we can see it. If it struck only once, we would not see it. Really? It strikes the ground and it strikes millions of times. And that's why if you are near somebody else getting struck, you too will get struck. That's why folks who my dad has a story where he was driving along and it struck like 15, 20 feet to his left and he felt the electricity. Believe it or not, in his truck through the tires, through the whole nine, he felt it. He could just feel the electricity coming off the strike. So I have not been struck by lightning, but when I was a young reporter at KOF,

1:48:08down in Ottawa, I was driving back to Lawrence one evening and lightning struck right next to my car. It is the brightest light you've ever seen without it. I was blinded. Are you blinded by the light? I was blinded by the light where you revved up like a do's in the middle of the night. It's a do's. Not a do's. I should say that. And could we please not? That is a horrible lyric. Who wrote that song? I don't know. Springsteen. Terrible. It's a great song. It is a great song. It is a car. News is next here on Dana and Parks. Thanks for listening to the Dana and Parks podcast. Remember, you can catch us online anytime at KMBZ.com. You're listening to the Dana and Parks podcast on KMBZ. We're not making it a topic, but we do report the news. This is breaking news out of Washington. The US Supreme Court has just rejected Missouri Republicans request to use a new congressional map.

1:49:08So there was a mid census revision of the congressional map. That has been thrown out by the US Supreme Court. I didn't catch everything that they said during the ABC newscast at the top of the hour. But apparently it was rejected by the Supreme Court without comment. Did I hear that right? That's correct. They just denied to take it up, which then of course sends it back down to the lower courts ruling. The Missouri Supreme Court ruled that the changing of the maps was unconstitutional. We are reverting back to the 2022 map for the general election in November, where it's now sticky and confusing and doesn't really make any sense is that constituents voted for their primary candidate. And now when they go to the general election ballot, are going to see a totally different name because they're at a different district. They're back in the original district that they were in. Before the map changed. But in early August, we had people that along the truest corridor voting for the district that also encompassed Harrisonville.

1:50:14The forced district. Yeah, it's just it's really confusing. But Jackson County said last week after the Missouri Supreme Court ruling that they will be ready. What that means, I don't even think they know. But yeah, I'm a little bit confused here. And this is interesting political mystery. What happens to the people who lost in their primary, who could have or should run in a different district? I'm thinking of Hartzel Gray, who ran in the fourth and barely lost, where he really wanted to run against a manual cleaver in the democratic primary. You mentioned Hartzel. I think that he would have and his fair to argue had a much bigger chance in a place like Kansas City, because of his name recognition here. I think that it hurt him in the primary having his name pop up on a ballot. And he's the day he barely lost. Yeah. Huh. So there we go.

1:51:14So it's a win. However, it's a win for Democrats dot dot dot. What do you do if you are on the losing end of that? And my guess is there's nothing you can do. Really, it's a loss for all of us. They're not going to be into the day. But what the heck is going on? The last thing I'm going to say about this, you start messing with the maps under one administration. We're just going to mess with the maps under the next administration. And then it's going to go around and around and around and around. No one wants to go down that road. It already did go on both sides. California redid the maps. I think Illinois redid their maps. If I'm not mistaken, knock it off. What I'm saying is knock it off that they need to. I can't believe I'm going to say these words. They need to pass a federal law. That says you can only redraw congressional maps on census years. So 2020, 2030, 2040, 2050. None of this mid census. Let's call it what it is. Jerry Mandarin.

1:52:15Well, it's all so convoluted. I mean, if you really dig into the weeds of it, the reason I think California was the first one to do it was because the map that they proposed from the 2020 census had been denied year after year after year. So then they finally approved it and that made headlines. And so everybody around the country, certain people maybe in the administration, we're like, well, they're doing it. We're going to do it too. I know. Now we're getting way too much into the politics of it. But I do stand behind my statement of this is a loss for all of us because what is going on? We need some sort of levity here. Well, and somebody just wrote in on the text line of their right. I voted for a manual cleaver in nob noster. It makes no sense. This map that the Supreme Court within the past few minutes has rejected. And so now we're going back to the congressional map that we had before. And not the new one that the general assembly put forward. From the New York Post earlier this year, the post reported with great horror that Hollywood

1:53:17has made smoking cool again, despite all the very real health risks, but being a cool social smoker outside of a bar with a cigarette between your fingers. It seems is not the same as being a social butterfly. According to new research, smoking actually leads to increased loneliness. Oh, I don't disagree. Number one, a lot of people do it in secret because now it's a dirty thing. And I don't really want people to do it. And number two, you're going out alone on a smoke break at work with that. I mean, no one's joining. It used to be a communal thing. I don't think it's a communal thing anymore. No, I saw somebody here at the office outside smoking alone. It's one alone. Yeah. No matter the age or gender, current smokers were found to be lonelier than non smokers. We're still smokers also experienced larger increases in loneliness over time.

1:54:17One theory as to why this is is age. The average age of research participants was 67. So younger people are not smoking. They're vaping. Are they saying they're lonely because their friends died sooner? I'm confused. What? Probably because so few people smoke. After the age of 60, you're not really going out to the bars every Thursday, Friday and Saturday night. You're probably staying at home alone smoking. Huh? I mean, smoke anymore. How long did you and how old were you? Not very long. I was a freshman at college. I smoked a little bit in high school because you thought it was cool. It was cool back then. Yeah. I mean, you were sort of the rebel, but it didn't go well when I was playing football and baseball. So it never really took until I went to Nebraska. I mean, when I was smoked there. I mean, I was in college. All of my friends were in the service industry.

1:55:19It was the communal thing. You'd go out to the bar and hang out and everybody went out and unison to go smoke. And I'm just standing there like, okay, did you ever smoke? No. You never smoked a cigarette in your life. Far too afraid of being addicted to it. I mean, I'd probably, well, I say probably, I know for a fact I had a few drunk, but outside of that now. Dana smoked one. One. No, not even the full thing. Well, it was a Virginia slim. I lit it and I tried it. And then I hurt my mom walking in because I was walking in. So I threw it across the room, hoping it would land in the sink and it did, but it didn't go down the drain. So the little thing was still wafting up. You could see the little smoke. That was in her cigarette pack. Oh, yeah. They were smokers back in the day. Like you wouldn't even believe. And she came in and she was like, hey, whatever it was, can you come out with me? And she goes, is something burning? And I just, teenagers are such bad liars. I would have been, God, we were still in the house on the hill. I would have been 16 or 17 tops, probably close to the 15.

1:56:22Did you even know how to smoke? How do you know how to inhale? No, she goes, is something burning and I go toast. No. No, I'm toast. I wait. I hadn't made toast. I don't even know if we had bread in the house. That was it. That was the one and done. Never doing that again. Both of my parents smoked. My dad quit later in life before he died, obviously. My mother. Tough to quit after. It is very tough to quit after. My mother continued to smoke and she had some health problems when she was like 53, 54, which is to say she had a heart attack. My own, but a heart attack nonetheless. And I remember, my dad had passed by this point if I remember correctly. And I drove her home from the hospital and she went upstairs and there was still a pack of cigarettes on the kitchen table. Yeah. And the first thing she did was sit down and pull out a cigarette. Yeah. And I'm standing there looking at her. I mean, my mom was in her mid 50s and I'm looking at my mom.

1:57:23I go, what are you doing? And she looks at me and she goes, it's my goodbye cigarette. And I ran over to the kitchen table. Oh, well, it is. Grab that cigarette out of her mouth and crushed it. And she never smoked again. My mom hasn't had a cigarette over 30 years. I did vape. We're honest on this program. I did vape. How long? Longer to way too long. See, I've never done that. I was afraid it would like blow up in my mouth. I literally, I decided I had to quit because I would wake up in the middle of the night and the vape was in my hand. Oh, yeah, that's the time. That's the point. Like, I would wake up, you know, you half wake up and do something. Most people take a drink of water if you're a vapor and I'm sure it's true for most people who vape. That drink of water is a rip off the old vape stick. Is it expensive? Insanely. Really? I told you one of the kids vaped for probably a year or more and it was because all of his roommates did it. And he said, we'll be sitting around playing video games, doing whatever and everybody was vaping.

1:58:24The next semester, he ended up roaming with, I think he requested. He ended up roaming with two or three of his buddies that did not vape. Yeah, okay. And he said it like that. He said I was able to quit that because it's so well, then he wasn't really a digital kid. Communal and he said it's so just something to do when you're all sitting around. He said, the minute you're around three other guys that now don't vape, he said the fixation was not there for him. Well, what are you going to say in that room? Hey guys, do you mind if I vape? No, I don't want you to look like a dragon in our room. The weird thing for me is that it wasn't the nicotine that made it hard to quit vaping. It was literally the hand of mouth. Like, what do I do with my hands? It's the fixation of it. I'm going to decide and be like, okay, well, this is when I vape. I don't have a vape. What do I do? What am I supposed to do with the next 34 seconds? And eventually you just get over it. Nicotine is a bear to try to quit. It is a bear. 913-586-779-891-358.

1:59:26You just love this tennis, don't you? No. I might have told my daughter to tape it so I can watch it when I get home. What? When did this, I've known you for almost two decades. When did this fascination with tennis come about? I would like to request that you watch one match with Coco Gough and one match with TFO. It is the most athletic. How do they do that? I played pickleball yesterday, Scott. You did a game watching it. I came home. I have icy hot all over me. I have TheraGund. I've got nine ibuprofen in me. I thought I'd been hit by a car. And then you watch these athletes compete at that level. I don't even understand how they're doing what they're doing outside in front of all of those people. It's beautiful to watch. What did you do to yourself? I think I pulled a groin muscle. Playing pickleball in doors. Well, that doesn't make the groin any stronger.

2:00:27Oh my gosh, Sam, do you know? You're for no roof. You're groin is going to be a good match. I actually asked a tennis person last night. Do you think any of us could get a racket on a serve from a professional tennis player? No. And before it even came out of my mouth, he goes, no. They're serving like 120 miles an hour. You wouldn't even see that ball go past you. It's that fast. You'd feel it if it hit you. Well, you would. You couldn't hit a major league fastball. None of us could. Could you get a bat on it? No. When I was in my 20s, I went to a batting cage in Lawrence and I put the spedometer, if you will, at 80 miles per hour. That's it. Just to see. And I played baseball in high school. Yeah. I wasn't awful. I mean, I was athlete of the week one time. I'm a lancel. Okay. Well, I was. I never even saw the 80 mile per hour fastball go past me. Never even saw it. There goes. Yes. I put it. I had like 10 balls that I had paid for.

2:01:27I saw that first one. Well, I didn't see it. And I just grabbed my bat and went home. You heard it. I knew it. Then there were nine more that must have come out and I never even saw it. I just went home. 913-586-7798. Here on Danae Park's. Live golf has filed for bankruptcy. As it attempts to reach. Shocking. We know whenever. Restructure and restart. What it called its next chapter. Live golf chief executive Scott O'Neill said in a statement that he believed deeply in the future of the tour, which plans to quote begin its new era in early 2027. But I think they had basically conceded defeat to the PGA. There's any new era. I don't know what they're talking about. Okay. Have all the golfers who had gone to live come back? I do not know that they have figured out a path forward from those who walked away.

2:02:28They are still playing live golf every single Saturday and Sunday. I see it on my local news channel. You're the only one watching it. I don't watch it, but I see it. Who are the big names that went to live? Oh, Scott, there are so many. The Shambrow, like a culture like there are big names that left and are. I don't know that all of them are just going to be welcomed back because they took the money and ran when others did not take the money. And yes, I do. And here's why they were all multi-bejillionaires. Tiger Woods turned it down. Multi multi multi multi-millionaires. Well, and let's be honest. Here's the deal. If they want to come back and they hit the white ball with the stick pretty well and they're entertaining, they're going to be invited back. Yeah. I mean, you need the Shambrow, right? To bow. I know. He's already been invited back. He's already playing in PGA events again, which I think right now he's playing in both. He did have to pay reportedly many, many, many, many, many, many millions of dollars back

2:03:32to be able to do that. But I don't know how they're going to figure that out as the short answer. A story here from the New York Post with back to school season in full swing college campuses are once again packed with welcome backbashes, football games and fraternity events. But according to one viral video, today's ragers are a far cry from animal house. Are you familiar with these darts? Sam. So darts were all the rage when I was in college. And yeah, we dartied all the time. A darty. A day party. It meant that you started the beer pong and the jungle juice up at 9 30, 10 o'clock in the morning. Can't drink all day. If you don't start in the morning, you'd take a nap at 2 3 p.m. Get up and go out to the bars at night. That is a darty. What they're doing is day drinking, day drinking, but exercising. So this is the new trend with the darty is and I've not seen it anywhere other than this New York Post story, but allegedly, it's called a wellness darty. No, it's no. If you go to the starting college campuses, allegedly, according to this New York Post story,

2:04:32you will see a bunch of co-eds on the front lawn of a flat house doing yoga. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we need to stay lumber people. What we do? And then they go for a group run. Of course. No, I'm not kidding. Oh my god. They do yoga and some stretching. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. They get drunk and then they go for a run. It's called a wellness darty. Wait, they still get drunk. Who has ever gone drinking and then thought, gosh, you know what I want to do? I want to work out. The answer is no one. Well, apparently it's Gen Z on the college campus of America. You go Gen Z and Pratt of you. King Charles said in a letter that Prince Harry and his wife, Megan, remain private citizens and will have no official royal duties. Okay. Thanks, Dad, in a letter. Don't you remember? Don't you remember? You couldn't ring me up and just let me know that. Don't you remember if you had watched the crown, you would know this. When Prince Charles wanted to see his mother growing up, he had to make an appointment and there were multiple times that her handler said she's too busy to see you.

2:05:36So I don't always fault him for his very aloof behaviors because of the sort of bizarre universe that he grew up in. Can we stop acting like the royals actually have real jobs because they don't do a lot of charitable work. They, they, they, they, they, King Charles does charitable work. I do believe that they do. Okay. Remember Diana and the landmines member? I remember her, yes, doing that. The TSA has launched a new program that allows some people without a plane ticket to go through airport security. Wait, can we go back real quick to the royal family? I'm supposed to. Are we surprised that they didn't welcome them back? He literally smeared their name as he kicked the door shut behind him saying, I don't want to be part of this family anymore. They called him spare to his face. I'm not saying what he did was wrong. I'm just saying that there is love lost here. I, I, I, a lot of it. He just seems right about that. Anyone that grows up thinking, I want to be a prince or a princess someday.

2:06:39You need to realign your goals with, well, he didn't, he didn't grow up thinking that he was born that way. Yeah, but I'm just saying like, you know, I think when we were growing up, I want to be a princess someday. No, you don't. Out of that family. Not in anything. Well, I would like the, the king of Norway died last week of the week prior. The king of Norway can walk down a street in New York and nobody's going to know he's the king of Norway. Okay. So I'll take all that money. The yacht. Yep. The yacht, the private plane, all of that stuff. If I get to be like the king of the Netherlands or the king of Norway because no one knows who you are. I read the story about the king of Norway dying last week. I can't remember his name anymore until you're the prince of whatever one of those Nordic countries who was accused of. It's always when it's a scandal horrific crime. Yeah. You know their names when there's a scandal. So the TSA is launching a new program that allows some people without a plane ticket to

2:07:39go through airport security. It's called gate side by PSA pre check. That's too clunky. It is clunky. Gate side is currently available at 13 airports across the United States. Kansas City is not one of them, but LA is Dallas. Why would you go through if you had a kid who was who was flying? I could see that. That's the or an elderly family member who might need some assistance just getting to the gate. And they don't want that car. They go through the terminal. I'll tell you this on our last flight home, there were so many people needing assistance. And I'm not saying they didn't I should not do air quotes around that, but there were so many people needing assistance that they made an announcement when the plane landed that all of their wheelchairs at the airport were in use. And so please, you know, just wait your turn and then we will have a wheelchair and a were there really that many people that Scott there was an announcement made as the plane

2:08:42landed that if you require assistance, there's a backup if you will. Do you remember the time a flight attendant called in and said we call those people Jetway Jesus? We call them the Jetway Jesus people because they ask for the wheelchair because they cannot get from point A to point B. And the minute they get to the plane itself, I'm healed. I'm healed. Jetway Jesus. So funny. 913-586-779-8-586-779-8. By the way, we did our first hour today on the passing of Radio Legend Toby Tobin. That is going to be the replay hour tonight at 6 o'clock. He was a legendary, wonderful kind man. And that two o'clock hour was, it was good. We had his brother in here, Mark, guys who have appeared on his program for decades, Saturday mornings from 6 to 10. If you missed the two o'clock hour, certainly would encourage you to check out the bonus

2:09:42hour after 6. I thought when I was reporting might not be 100% accurate and thank you, Textors. As I was reading that story about gate pass that the TSA is set up at LAX and DFW, etc. And I said, Kansas City is not on the list. As I'm reading that, I'm thinking to myself, I thought they had some sort of a gate pass that you could sign up for, you know, request an application for whatever. And a texture rightly points out, Kansas City does have it, but Kansas City does not use the TSA. Yeah, their contractors are right. Right. So, you don't travel a ton, not like every week out of the year.

2:10:50We don't travel for work, but you are probably on an airplane, would you not say six times a year? Three round trips. Yeah. Two to three. So, Jamie Monticelli had mentioned this when it first, this clear TSA clear program first started that it would save you time and she signed up for it because she travels all the time and you would really enjoy it. And this is like the pre-check thing. This is, yeah, you see the signs that say clear. We did it because we were traveling at an airport where there was a little bit of a wall in the action, if you will. And someone came over to us and said, hey, have you guys signed up for clear yet? And we said, no, tell me again what this is about. And we signed up on the spot. And one of the things they said was, I think it's $250. I'd have to go back and look. But if you have an American Express, it's free. That's not entirely true.

2:11:51You have to have a specific type of American Express. So check that out before you do it. Even if we had known at the time, it was $250 and we were not going to be reimbursed, we would have done it. So is this the same thing as TSA pre-check or whatever? I don't know how to, I don't know what to call it. You walk in and everyone that is in that snaked line just inching along, inching along. You go ahead of everybody. You go to a different little line where there is no one there. There are three workers just standing there and they go, hello, Ms. Wright, stand in front of this camera. Yep, that's you. Then they escort you to the machines where you do your X-raying of your stuff and you take your laptop out. You go ahead of everybody. Now. And it's only $250. And what you're giving up there is your biometrics, Sam. They know, like I could stand in front of that.

2:12:52I've had makeup on. I've had no makeup on. Correct. And so there will be people at times they're like, well, what the hell are they doing? And I always say, you can do this too. This is not because people are fancy. This is, you don't have to wait in this line. And so during heavy travel weeks, like if you happen to travel during spring break, but not for spring break, it once is worth the money to do it. And it scans your face. It just goes, you just go right in front of this little camera and it goes, hello, Dana. And a physical person then walks you to the front of the person that checks your passport and your driver's license. They make everybody else wait. You get to cut in front of everybody and then you go straight to the machine and take off your shoes. So what you're saying is it's only for rich people? No. She said $250. If you have an American express, it's free. But I want to say it's a plat. You got to have some, I don't know which one it is. The one where you pay like $2,000 a year or something. I don't know which one it is.

2:13:52For the right to have it. I'm telling you, it is something. Well, but see, your biometrics have already been taken. Like when you go to Mexico, for example, you have to, you know, you get in the passport and then you have to stand there and look into the screen and it just takes a picture of your face. They've already got my biometric somewhere. We always lay over in Houston because there is no direct flight to Bloccy. It drives me crazy. And Houston is a gateway to hell. Yep. And I'll tell you this, Scott, if you ever have to go to Houston, you are going to be glad you have it. I'll never go back to Houston. Well, if you lay over there, I will not lay over there. I almost got murdered in Houston. Okay. I do remember that story. Kicked off the flip flops and ran. That's right. I just flip flops. Never to be seen again. I get in my beard. You're not getting my two. I did. I took that six pack of beer like I was Walter Peyton. I did, man. David Virginia mother is speaking out after her conviction on a child abuse charge stemming

2:14:53from her decision to let her five year old son walk outside alone. What time was it? Carrie Ann Parkinson's son Samuel likes to collect goose feathers. So over the summer, she let him walk half a mile to a local pond by himself to go get more. I gave him permission to go sit Parkinson's to CBS news. I told him go there. Come right back. George Colony, that's their neighborhood's name is a gated community where they live near Williamsburg. They have paid security guards, one of whom stopped Samuel on his way to the pond and escorted him back home. Says mom, the security guard said, well, we don't permit children to be out in the neighborhood alone. And I said, is that an HOA by law? Because I really don't think that's against the rules. And he said, well, if it's not against the rules, it's against the law, I'm calling police. The police and child protective services responded the day of the incident. And Parkinson was charged two weeks later with contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

2:15:57What do you think? I think other people are really good at being other people's friends. Did you not play outside when you were a kid? Of course we did. We all did. This is a gated community. They have paid security. The odds that something bad is going to happen to that kid while he walks to go get more goose feathers is very, very small. Do I hear an amen? I walked to school at age five. We walked to school from our babysitter's house to the school with armed guard. We did not have an armed guard. We were in a group of like say six to eight kids every single day that we walked as a group to school and back. Secret service was looking behind. There were a couple of instances for whatever reason I was either late or that I had to walk by myself. And this would have been in nineteen what seventy nine eighty. While I was never kidnapped, I was almost attacked by a pack of rabid dogs and someone's

2:17:01grandmother saved me and said get in the car. I'm your classmates grandma. I'll take you to school. This was not an integrated community. This was in Topeka by the train tracks. So you would have been attacked by the dogs. Even if you had friends with you. Yeah. I was not one to let the children wander alone at that age. Nor did I want them like at the school bus stop alone when when they were you didn't live in a gated community elementary school. But I but I don't fault someone else in that particular situation for making that choice that's best for them. Now we don't know if Miss Parkinson is one of these free range parents that we've heard about in the news. And it's funny because free range parents just means they're doing exactly how we grew up. Right. But some are letting their kids grow up. Yes. Yes. Oh, but somewhere along the line, all of this changed. And I think it was when our generation became parents. And for whatever reason, oh, Adam was was the reason you're right.

2:18:03The milk rates were the reason the milk cartons. But that was that was in New York City. Doesn't matter. At a time when New York was very dangerous. But Scott, they were on milk cartons here. Yeah. Like, I don't even fault us for being as weird as we are because we grew up eating cereal staring at the faces of missing children they never found. Do you falter? No. You would let your five year old walk to the pond. I'm not saying I would have that would have been my choice. But I think she's doing the best that she can under her own circumstances. Can I read this text? Sure. You can kill your three kids, but you can't let them walk to the pond. Oh boy, here we go. The point is taken. I wouldn't have made that point. I'm not saying I wouldn't have thought it, but the point is taken. She is still charged with first degree murder, three counts. The charges did not go away. I just that we have to let our kids learn independence at some point. And then they turn 18 and we can't figure out why they refused to move out when we wouldn't let them leave the house on their own for the first 18. I think the question would be here.

2:19:04And I don't fault this mom. I mean, there are several factors why I don't. Number one is it's a gated community. I can't say that enough with paid security guards. So clearly this is a family of means. And yes, there can be weirdos in any neighborhood. I get it. But highly unlikely. Right. And to your point, don't we have to teach our kids some level of independence? The argument I could hear from the other side though is five is too young to teach independence. There's no way. Can you leave your five year old home alone? Would not be my choice. I don't think so. 913-586-779-8-586-779-8 here on Data and Parks. Brenda Hangtai will get with you in just a moment. It's funny you cut it back with Queen.

2:20:05I didn't even ask for that. There is a new book coming out called a Life in lyrics. Do you want to know what Queen almost became called? A King? Nope. I have no idea. Build your own boat. That is a terrible name for a band. Freddie Mercury wanted Queen Brian May. The guitarist wanted to build your own boat. BYLB, baby. Build your own boat. Okay. We were talking about the mother charged for letting her five year old walk to the pond by themselves. Yes, sir. The overarching theme on the text line is the dangers of a kid being near a pond by themselves to which I responded to a couple of textures. How many kids die in car accidents each year? You take your kids in the car? Of course. Yeah. It's calculated risk, which is why I said it is not a risk I would be willing to take. Yeah. I was born in Dayton, grew up with a lot of anxiety about those things. Still have it. Still have it? Yep. But, you know, I said to my daughters the other day that I had a horrible nightmare of

2:21:09like where something was wrong and I couldn't get to them. And I woke up in the morning and I said, I'm going to need proof of life. What are you guys doing this morning? I had a terrible dream. They sent me these hilarious photos of them like doing right what they're doing. Sophie was at work. Beatrice was doing what she was doing. Yeah. And they're like, we're okay, mama. Like, I don't think it's our fault that we're crazy about this stuff. I really don't. And maybe you think we were conditioned this way. Oh, I absolutely know we were conditioned this. My grandmother used to say to me, don't you slip away from me in that grocery store? You know they never found that so and so because we had two kids kidnapped, never found out of a Topeka. So, you know, yes, we were conditioned that way. Molly Cruz in town tonight. Really? At Saltstone. Oh. I didn't even know that. Okay. I love Molly Cruz. In this weather, you couldn't pay me a million dollars to go to that show. Brenda in Lee Summit. Brenda, good afternoon. Hello. Hello. Hi. I was kind of about the lady in the five-year-old.

2:22:10I had read the article first and then I happened to see her on KVL. I was being interviewed. I don't know one of the news things, whatever. She's quite an articulate lady. She either, and I didn't quite catch it. She either lost student or she is an attorney. But she, the kid was one of five. She said it was something that they do this walk through this neighborhood by the pond every day. He's quite familiar with the area. She is too. She knew her kid. She said, he wanted to go back. They just got in the house in this walk. He wanted to go back do whatever it was to do. She gave him permission. She said she trusted him. She knew he knew how to get there. And that she believed he was capable of doing that. And then the worst part of this whole thing is not only to just start, but then she gets charged and then this judge rules against her. And the interesting thing is, and I'm hoping we get to continue to follow it, she's appealing it.

2:23:11And she's unlike probation or something for like five years or I don't know, seven decades. She had to register under some sort of list for child abuse. There you go. It was something absolutely afternoon. And my kids are the age of you too. So my kids were raised as two boys here in the Kansas City suburban area, as pre-range kids. And my younger one still says, you know, I don't want to go out and find something. I don't have anything to do. I said, go out and sit on the curb. You'll figure out something. Any day. I mean, I just don't understand the idea that we have to be so afraid. I mean, I do understand it. But I think sometimes it just goes crazy. And this is one of those instances in my opinion. Brenda, appreciate the call. Sorry, I just got some. Sam, can you look up Jimmy Kimmel real quick?

2:24:11Sure. Tejas texted me something about the Jimmy Kimmel show. Reportedly ending after next season. After 24 years. And by the way, I thought you were going to say he'd been in a car wreck, speaking of all of the things going on in my, could you please Google Jimmy? Does he need CPR? I just got a text from Tea that just said Jimmy Kimmel show is ending. Also, we have an update on one of the men that was initially charged in the Chiefs Parade shooting. We'll bring that to you tomorrow. It was in my stack. The bonus hour is next. As we remember the legendary Toby Tobin next hour on Dana and Parks have a great night. Be safe, be well and be good. Bye. Thanks for listening to the Dana and Parks podcast. Remember, you can catch us online anytime at KMBZ.com.