Full Show 9-9-26

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2:04Go to TimesAVS.DGS, 104-1-F-M-K-N-O-X. Happy Wednesday to you. Guys, now you're going to do our best. We have to cover 45 minutes today. And... Andrew, can we just replay this segment at 1-30? That's the plan. Okay, excellent. Excellent. Yeah, game today at 2.45, so looking forward to that. I think we only have one more lazy day cardinals based after this. Boo. Maybe two. Two. Two? So one each week. We have plenty. It's a getaway day each week. Next Wednesday and then the Thursday after that. So yeah, one each week for the next couple of weeks. All right. Excellent. But who's counting then? The dry period. The dark time. Continues, yeah. Then we move back into the darkness. But then it's fall and it's football and Christmas season and Christmas season. But then it starts to get dark early.

3:05January, now those are the dark days. The dog days. VIXX says, what did you think of the concert last night, Dave? VIXX, I thought it was one of the best shows. I've ever seen most of my concerts. I've seen with Nick, which I think is very sweet. And we both thought it was one of the best shows. If not the best show we've ever seen. And I went into it. Last night was Foo Fighters opening up for ACDC. And I went into it with very low expectations. Because I've seen some TikToks where Dave Girl's voice struggles, of course. And Brian Johnson, I haven't seen him in a few years, but he's like 112 years old. How the hell can he sing back in black, right? And I thought the singers were both great. I thought the musicianship was great. Angus Young sounded as good or better than I've ever heard him. He disturbingly looked just like my mom.

4:06He's the same size. He has the same haircut. And it was just like I was cracking up because Nick pointed it out. And after that I just couldn't not see my mom, you know. That's funny. It was great. What's crazy is like he's my dad's age, Brian Johnson. And he's doing that. Yeah. Like doing it, doing it, doing it. The other guys I didn't realize they're a lot younger than him. I didn't realize he was the oldest by a lot. I didn't know that. I like seven or eight years. Like Angus I think is six, seven years younger than him. Angus looks 10 years older than Brian. He does. He definitely does. You know what? There's something I found it joyous if I can be hyperbolic because I don't know how many people, the dome holds, but it was pretty full if not full. And everyone was just having a good time. You know, like there were a lot of people my age kind of relive in the 80s. But then a lot of people, Nick's age, who we introduced to that music and grew up with food fighters, it was very, very cool.

5:06That's a double win for them. To me, that's kind of the same vibe. Like when I was in high school and saw the rolling stones with living color opening, like living colors, my band. Right? Like I was, that was the big thing for me at the time. And rolling stones were like, yeah, they're my dad's band, but they're legends. Right? You're seeing one of the all-time greats. It's kind of that same vibe. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. For sure. I mean, obviously, food fighters are bigger level than living color was even at that time, but still. Yeah, no, I thought it was great. So started at seven and Nick knows I love to be early and leave early. And he goes, Dad, I'm telling you, food fighters won't take the stage until 740. And I said, they're going to, they'll be on the stage by 7-01. Because they're not going to want to be disrespectful to ACDC. They're the opening act. Yeah. And they hit, they hit it right at seven. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Great songs, great song choices. At one point, the food fighters, Burr, we're playing a song. I didn't know it's got a shiver. I was at it. We got a shiver.

6:06And I even turn to Nick. I'm like, this must be off the new album. And then I realized they were playing Aces Bades by Motorhead. Oh, cool. So really cool. Yeah, I love good covers like that in a concert. Me too. Throw in one or two, you know? Yeah. Nice blast. Nice to see downtown crowded. Yeah. People having a good time. A lot of cars downtown as I was leaving work yesterday. Yeah. And tonight you have Marilyn Manson and Rob Zombie. Yeah, that's gonna be great. That's out at Hollywood Casino. Basically the same show I saw last night. Basically, yeah, although I will say it's gonna be the same environment. Like the way you described it, like it's chill. It's a bunch of dudes are age, but then also, you know, their kids age, you know, like the 30 year olds, 35 year olds that are kind of into it for a different reason. Yeah. And it's really sweet too, specifically for me and Nick. Because I, he's been going to shows with me since he was literally four years old. Wow. I took him to see cheap trick and, soles, not soles, I don't know, who's one runaway train?

7:10You know, being everyone hates him. Yeah, can't, not canobox. No, it's canobox. Soles, I don't know. Yeah, canobox was as grunge man. Anyway, I took him to that for his first show. And we're in like the third row. And after like maybe five songs, he turns to me and he goes, I'm ready to go. Like it was so loud and no cheap trick and everything. So, but anyway, it was, it was a great moment for us. Because here we are. He's a grown man getting married. I'm 62. And we're still seeing shows. And the people were watching or even older than me. And they sound great. So it's nice. Really nice. Ray Twits is the best show you've ever seen. Oh, that's a good question. Um, man, I always, I've seen the flaming lips a couple of times. And that's, that's kind of the best. They've, they just put on a really great performance. They'll, Wayne Coyne will come out and like a big hamster ball into the audience and they're like confetti cannons. And it's just really cool visuals throughout.

8:11And they sound really good. It's funny to say that because ACDC was the opposite. They would finish the song. And then there would just be silence and darkness for about 40 seconds. Really? And I figured they were just using a defibrillator on Angus. Just keep him going. Take him from deep breath for everybody. Shut him again. Clear. And then they would just start another song. Yeah. Well, I'm about to contradict myself because I just said I loved the flaming lip show because of all that stuff. And that it is a big part of it. But like I said, they also sound really good. I can't imagine the appeal of going to, like I've never gone and seen a pop singer before. And the whole thing is like it takes two minutes between each song because they've got to put on a new outfit and get a new set on the stage. That could not mean less to me. I agree. Like if you sound good and then like the visuals accompany it and it's that's fine. But like the outfit change and like and now the stage is totally different. I just don't care. I think the only like pot.

9:12Now I've seen Kpop, of course. And those are impressive primarily because they will go for three hours with no opener and very little breaks. And they do lots of elaborate costume change and they're dancing and choreographing the whole time. But I think the only like pop star kind of thing that I've seen it like Western pop star. I saw Lord in 2019 and she was incredible. That's she's like a cut above. Yeah, that's one of the best concerts I've ever seen. She's like a real musician. No offense to some of these pop stars out there. But Lord is like a songwriter and like takes her craft seriously. So that doesn't surprise me that she would. It was a really impressive to me last night as a singer. And I certainly don't put myself in the category of Dave Grohl or Brian Johnson. But I'm a singer and I sing those songs. And I have to drink water between every song. Or I do drink water between every song. Dave Grohl never took a sip. He did an hour of screaming food fighters

10:15and just he just kept going. Because he hydrates all the time. Must be. Paul McCartney did the same thing. Yeah, I think a lot of the like especially now. So we were talking about it before the show. So many of these bands now are like super serious about. Oh yeah, hell eating rations, sleeping enough, drinking enough water, you know, all that stuff. Like back in the day, it was like, where's the whiskey? Let's go. Like now it's like, yeah, they're going to take care of themselves a little bit. Which is by the way, maybe why some of these bands last better than others. Of course. You know, you see the ones that kind of fade real fast. It's probably because they didn't take care of themselves. Keith Richards, he's always. He's a really. Man. And the guitarists always get away with a little bit, you know, like it's the singers that always wear it the most. Jason says, thank you, DGS for the tickets. He had a great time last night. Oh, cool. Awesome. Very cool. One of our giveaway winners. Mm-hmm. Well, I'm glad it was fun. Yeah, me too. I'm really like, you guys know me. It's like halfway through yesterday. I'm like, boy, if Nick could find someone to go with,

11:15it'd be really cool. Because I just don't feel very good. And then once we got there, I'm like, what was I even talking about? Yeah. And once the music starts, you're like, this is great. I'm glad you stuck it out. Because that's like, you're not going to see that kind of like, and tickets like that do pop up. The like, you know, food fighters suddenly opening up for ACDC. Right. But not here. You know what I mean? It doesn't happen in St. Louis. Yeah. And one of the most charming things I thought last night was how clearly legitimately excited Dave Grohl was. Like the first thing he said was, you are watching me live my childhood dream opening for ACDC. And you could tell he meant it. You could tell he's just like, completely geeked out. So that was cool. It was really neat. Yeah. And then ACDC, I mean, I'm sure they are fans of food fighters. But Brandt Johnson just like, first of all, you couldn't understand the thing he said. Yeah. It's like Aussie. Yeah. And they could have just stopped playing. And he could have just talked for an hour.

12:16Nobody would have known anything was. Yeah, because they wouldn't finish a song. Blang. And he'd go, have a platter. And you're like, yes. Yes. That's the same. That was the same experience every time I saw Aussie. Like when he talked, you couldn't understand a word. But when he sang, it sounded great. Yeah. Like it was probably fine. You understood the lyrics. It sounded like Aussie. But when he talked, you're just like, what's he saying? Except Aussie had this thing. He said, I can't hear you. Probably a thousand times during a show. To egg the crowd on. I can't hear you. Yeah. He did that all the time. I was, that's the only thing I was a little disappointed in. But this one of my pet peeves is I hate under any circumstances. Whether it's a concert, it's a comedy show. It's a corporate public speaking. I hate. I can't hear you. Yeah. You could do a little bit. There's a man. Are you and Dave Girl did that? Are you here for rock and roll? And it's like, oh, I am promised I am. And Dave, I don't believe you. Like, please, believe me.

13:18Yes. We already showed up and paid to see you. Now you need, now you need something for me. Like, I don't know. I have $500 to be here. Of course, I love rock and roll. I got to believe for a lot of the bands that have been around a long time, though. It's got to still be a little jarring. Because you remember what your shows were like in the early days and how wild the crowd was. It unhinged everything was. And then now, you know, your later everybody's old and your, you know, your pit is just people standing in front of the stage. Instead of marching. Yeah. It was a happy, weird. It was a difficult crowd to stand for four hours. And that was just the band on stage. Yeah, Rob said it was. Took weird pauses in between ACDs. Even when they started, it was great and super loud. And totally great. Totally great. To you, I mean, my understanding is they play everything live both of those bands. Like, they don't have any tracks and you can tell, right? You can really tell. Yeah, you can tell. It's a huge difference. There are like, maybe this is a stupid question,

14:19but there are rock bands that have tracks that, that is pathetic. I'm sorry. Yeah, you shouldn't be out touring that. I mean, maybe that's like a silly, maybe there are real musicians listening right now saying, like, you don't know what you're talking about. But your sometimes, you play the instruments. So we have the records. Some bands have problems with like the way they record the vocals, because you'll have the lead singer doing two different parts almost overlaid on the album and you can't do that live. So sometimes it'll be a track or sometimes another band member picks that up, but it just depends on what band and how good they are at that stuff. Yeah. As long as it's not like the entire like, if it's the entire thing, I'm not going. Yeah, that was the what's the point? Now, we have Rush coming up. Oh, yeah, I'm going through so nice. Yeah, don't forget Turnstile. What's that? Turnstile. It's a great band. Oh, that's the band he wants to go to with Bernie. Let's go. Bernie and Bernie is going to go. Oh, Bernie Paul, you want to go to that one? You'll like Turnstile. Yeah, you'll like them. Oh, anytime Bernie's getting out, I'll go. We don't have the ticket jet. We're talking about it. I don't care what it is. If he's in October, if he's getting out of the house, I'm going to go.

15:20Yeah. I'm going to tell a lot of people to back DGS on Camoax. Going to do about four, four, one, 45 today. Usually going to four, 45. Pregame and then Cardinals baseball add two, 45 wheels. You're going to be in the pit tonight, huh? I think so. I think so. Ben, Ben set up everything. Set everything up for us. That's the pit like full of six-year-old men. It's pretty chill. There will be younger dudes in there that are, you know, mosh and get an after it. Yeah, you just kind of hang to the back a little bit. You either get up on the stage or you stay to the back by their gate by their gate and usually you're right. You ever hit someone too hard and you remember it? No, I don't think so. I don't think so. You're a reasonable, well, it's like I was telling you during the break. Like most of the time, it's different now because I was a jo- Well, everybody's older. You're going to get some young people in the show, that in the pit at a show like tonight.

16:20And they'll get after it a little bit, but it's not like it used to be where everyone was that age. Yeah. And it would get a little crazy. But it was all like my experience was mostly 99%. Everybody's respectful. Nobody's bringing elbows up and hitting people in the face. Nobody's cheap shot in anybody. Somebody falls, you pick them up. That's normal. I mean, of course, every once in a while, you get some jerks or people that have a few too many substances in their system that need to be taken to security. Yeah. I feel you against their will. Gosh, what's in the news today? We have Donald Trump yesterday. We always have Donald Trump, but talking about being pulled from the rubble. People are pissed about that. The what's going on in New York is interesting and sad to me that not only has Giuliani said, a mandami needs to not be in New York on 9-11, even though he's the mayor. And it seems to just be that he's Muslim. Maybe he said some stuff that I don't know about. It's because he employs a legal council for the city

17:25who helped the brother of one of the al-Qaeda terror. Like one of the... That doesn't seem like a good idea. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't. I'm not saying like Giuliani's right to say that. I'm just saying it is a little deeper than just to keep his name as Zora. Now it's a big deal because mandami just, I think yesterday released like 170,000 pages that essentially say that Giuliani and his administration knew that the air at ground zero was toxic within three or four weeks of 9-11 and just didn't tell anybody. And so now mandami and his people are saying like, maybe Giuliani shouldn't be there because he's the one that, you know, went from America's mayor to now he's a villain. And I just hate that the 25th anniversary has to have extraneous bull crap. It's enough that it's been 25 years since 9-11. Yeah. Let us all commemorate it in our way. Be respectful. Be, you know,

18:25it's sacred. Yeah. And to be... And these are real fights. I get it. But come on. This is... You know, the problem that I have with it is like, it's just so 2026. Everything has to be a fight. Yeah. Can you just not make it entirely about the victims and the families of the victims? Can we just not do that? And if the families of the victims want to express opinions about who shooters shouldn't be there, let them express them. Which they are. Yeah, that's fine. I don't have a problem if they have something to say. But nobody else should. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like let everybody else... Let it be about them because that's... I mean, I know it's about the country, but they were hit more than everybody else. They were directly impacted by it. You got that. After Congress passed a law that military installations cannot bear the name of a Confederate soldier or have a Confederate statue. Hexeth is bringing back this 32-foot Confederate statue to be at Arlington. And that's, you know, causing people trouble on both sides.

19:25Cream cheese will now kill you. Okay. So there's a true risk of death from cream cheese. And wheels a guy is being offered half a million dollars to fight a chimpanzee. 2026, everybody. Dude. You know this is been a viral thing, right? Yes. This has been non-stop now for a few weeks where it's a bunch of the... You know, the... MMA guys. Dude, man, bros in the manosphere going on social media, mostly TikTok. And talking about how I can take a chimp. I just put them in a full Nelson, a slammer of the ground. Like, bro, you don't even want that to happen. You're gonna die. That's a great band name. Full Nelson chimpanzees. Yeah. I mean, like, you're gonna die, right? I mean, like... I just don't understand what people don't understand about the difference between wild animals with huge teeth and four hands. They have four hands to grab you. Imagine. Go ahead, Rachel. I just have a lot of questions about like, who is sanctioning this? How... Yeah, that should never happen. About the chimpanzee. We are the animal rights groups.

20:27I'm sure they're all over this, but a chimpanzee is not going to be able to consent to this. And if he is like, if the chimp is getting one over on the MMA fighter... Is he gonna... Right. Like, this is so wrong and should not be happening. Every level of happening. I can't imagine it's gonna happen. No, it's gonna get challenged. It's a horrific idea for a lot of reasons. First of all, Rachel's right. The animal can't consent to it. You don't just... And the human's gonna get hurt. You'd be like, do you know what their grip strength is of a chimp? It's three, four times hours. Imagine if you could bring a guy back who lived in the jungle with chimpanzees 10,000 years ago. And he looks around and he sees... We're still dumbass. Everything we have, these skyscrapers and airplanes, he's like, but they're fighting chimpanzees on purpose. Yeah. One third four DGS.

21:27Pregame coming up at 150. The game at 245. I don't know why we're considering ourselves with things like food fighters and Donald Trump and Moshpids. When we have a 10% chance of all humanity ending things to AI according to some anthropic researchers. Yeah. So you saw the guy resigned, right? It did. Jacob Cox. And he said that he resigned in part... Like he did a long Twitter thread. And one of the lines he uses is that he's concerned that AI could quote, kill us all by the end of the decade. Now, I don't suspect that's going to be the case, but... Here's what scares me the most is that I clearly don't understand it. I don't, I don't understand anything like this. It's not what I am good at. So I'm depending on other people who understand it. And the people who invented it seem to not completely understand it. And that scares me the most.

22:27Well, and then you listen to their reasons for why they're doing what they're doing. Right. Well, obviously they always mention the business motive. You know, because it's business and there's a lot of money. Well, okay, that's not a great reason to take that level of risk. Their arguments other than that though are, well, somebody else is going to get it done. We should do it first so that we have the better one or the, you know, we can have control of it rather than some bad actors having it. But I mean, to me... Like a new grace. Yeah, but I mean, as somebody else put it, somebody was talking about that. It's like, yeah, okay, in the nuclear race. But like, that's not something, like weapons, not nuclear power. Like nuclear weapons. That's not something that people use in day-to-day life. This AI, the intent is it's going to be used for damn near everything and a part of damn near everything. So it's going to be embedded in a way that missiles were not. Yeah. True, true. So... Well, I'm just glad we're just now deciding to maybe think about doing something about it. Although I'm not sure we are.

23:29Like, I don't even think we're at that point. Well, what I'm sarcastically trying to say is though the horse is out of the barn. Yeah, probably. Like, are you really going to go, okay, everybody stop working on it. Everybody's seriously, we need to pinky promise that we're not going to work on this right now. Like, that's... It's too late for that. Does this rise to the level where governments all over the world need to intervene and say stop? We are stopping this. We are taking control of it. Not that I trust the governments of the world. What's the closest we've ever done to that? What's the closest the world has ever come together and said, wait a minute. Nukes? Yeah, we have no clean trees. Yeah, everybody has them. No, not everybody, but yeah, the big countries do. And... But that's the point. They got together and they regulate it and they control it. They're not in private hands. Today, because I thought we were in Iran because we actually can't control it. No humans, no individuals. One of the many reasons we've been given that we're there. Right, but no individual citizens have nukes. Every person's going to have a version of AI.

24:29Yeah, that's why I'm saying you can't really... If it's privatized, like we can't have privatized nuclear weapons. If this is as dangerous as these researchers are saying, that to me rises to... If you're telling me there's even one percent chance that AI could take humans out. Maybe it shouldn't be in private companies' hands. Maybe that's something that should be in the hands of... But it was developed by private companies. So the government's going to swoop in and say, Hey, I know you created this and you developed it, but you can't have it anymore. I mean, what do all governments do if not protect national security? And if that's not a threat to national security, then what is? Why would you say? If this thing can already hack it. So, I mean, the... AI's have already hacked out of their closed systems and into businesses. Which is why I'm saying it's a little silly that now it's like these anthropic people are going, Oh, you guys, I think we might have screwed up here. Like, oh, thank you so much. Thanks for letting us know.

25:30Also, why would you... Maybe you could have said something a couple of years ago. Why would you want this, government? I don't. I'm saying I don't trust them either, but at least some of them are not financially tied to these businesses. Do I want these businesses to chase down the dollar at the risk of terrible consequences? Again, I'm not a fear-monger for AI. I think it can be a great thing. But if these people that are working on it are saying, there's even a chance that that could happen shouldn't the people that represent citizens and not financial interests be the ones that decide what happens with this. What would you do? I don't know. I know this. There need to be guardrails and it should not be able to be, quote unquote, freed unto the world and connected to the world until you know what it's going to do. And if you never get to the point that you know, maybe it stays in captivity. Until it hacks its way out. It's like the little baby frog.

26:31It looks just like everything sucks. Like, sorry. I mean, the horse is out of the barn. I'm not over here saying it's going to destroy humanity. This researcher could very well be wrong. I'm just saying it's a little... It's like saying, guys, gun control, we're going to round up all those guns and no one's going to have them anymore. Well, they're out there. Like, so, you know... That's out of the bag. Yeah, we're used to not empty threats, but, you know, over time, we've been used to this in the last generation. And in the 50s, it was ducking cover because we're all going to be nougat. There's always a wolf in the woods. And we can be guilty of crying wolf, but eventually the wolf's going to come into the village. Right? There are too many wolves out there. But you put up a fence. You put up a fence so that the wolves can't just get in really easy. You can put it up a fence for a wolf that isn't nougat,

27:31because a nougat is not going to act independently. That's the point. What we've done is not we, you know, not any of us, but what they've done is they've created this thing that supposedly, according to them, can act without them. Yes. It's meant to become smarter than them. And then it's just like, guys, don't worry. It's going to be okay. Yeah, we have to trust that that's going to be a benevolent force and not do whatever it wants for its own survival. And I don't think that we can... I really don't think there's any comparison to anything in the past because everything else in the past has been a human creation that's within human control. And can only act if a human uses it like a gun, like a nuclear weapon, like they can't just go by themselves and decide they're going to go off. A human has to be operating it for it to happen. What a perfect ending, though. Too high species. Right. You know, we started out basically monkeys and we've evolved if you believe that, which I do over millions and, you know, we've been around 300,000 years.

28:32And we get smart enough to create something smarter than us that kills us. That's kind of perfect. I mean, talk about being too smart for your own good. I mean, it says a lot about human nature. Yes. Yeah. And that's... Oh, we never know when to stop. Yeah, our hubris is typically... The reason why we have most of our problems. Like we were saying earlier in the show, it's 2026. Can you believe this and that? Well, we have all of the resources we need in 2026 to have amazing lives and to work together. But we choose not to. Yeah, we have enough food and resources to feed the whole planet. But we know we choose not to do that because it's not profitable for enough people. I was thinking about that just the other night, which you guys know I'm not religious. But if we... I was just thinking about how amazing this world is. And, you know, all the places I haven't been and all the amazing things that we have here. And if it would be enough for me, I don't need heaven. I don't need gold-lined streets.

29:34I don't need harbs or angels. This planet, to me, my humble opinion, offers enough amazing things that if we could just live a legitimate life with all this bull crap, that'd be enough for me. It'd be enough. It's amazing what we have here. There's so many things to love and experience, but we spend so much time, especially in 2026, looking at our screens, getting pissed off. I'm chief amongst everyone. I do that way too much. What a waste. What a waste. Yeah. I mean, hopefully this researcher is overreacting. I still love the mind. We've talked about this on the show before. There's no guarantee that any of this is going to come to fruition the way they're... No, that's true. There's something behind promising the world because there's so much money to pay from promising the world. So, you know, when I say the horse is out of the barn, it's not like everything's going to be ruined permanently.

30:36Right. Just saying like, we could have maybe put in some, some measure sooner. Instead of when we're this far down the path, go like, oh no. As with all things though, we don't tend to take serious action until something goes really wrong. Yeah. We're going to be like, doon, they're going to get rid of all the machines. Yeah, did anyone look into it enough to know, and I'm not making a joke here, like how it would kill us? Would it like affirmatively put us into extinction or just... Their line of facts. A lot of theories could be side effects, but if you're thinking about creating a true consciousness, and if that consciousness evaluates that we are the biggest threat to its existence, it could easily hack systems to poison people to fire off nukes. What, I mean, like, I don't know exactly, you know, like the simplest, but the last thing you want is something that's smarter than humans, thinking that humans are the threat. Yeah.

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