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But the supreme flight open happened this past weekend and it was electric.

Yeah, we're not going to have a cons couch today because cons not here.

So we're going to talk to the supreme flight open.

We'll update our first week of pick them, reveal our picks because obviously no one

saw them because we did the pick them the preview show early last week.

We'll talk about what went down on pick them, little Trevor's trivia, and then there's

two disc golf pro tour announcements that happened last week.

They actually happened before the supreme flight open, but we're going to talk supreme flight

first and then we'll talk about the new coverage initiatives, the pro tours doing, and

they announced the powerball cup purse.

So we're going to talk through all of that great episode ahead.

So let's just jump right into the supreme flight open and FPO.

We had own scoggins taking it down with Holland Hanley and Taylor Chosek coming in the

tie for second.

And then over in MPO, we had Ricky Ysaki winning it again and burn second and Paul McBeth

coming in third.

A lot of storylines coming out of this.

And FPO to be honest with you, I think going into this tournament, there was a lot of

conversation on like, what is the field going to be?

What's the field's identity without Kristen?

And we didn't really fully get that answer because we were missing Evelina and Silva.

But one of the big storylines for me that I noticed this year more than previous years

was the amount of players that looked solid to have a solid chance to have in a breakout

year this year.

I wrote down a list.

So obviously Taylor Chosek had the lead going into the final round.

And she held her own on the final round lead card.

I think that there was definitely moments where the moment got to her.

It took a while.

Yeah.

And midway through the round.

I mean, she was still right there and then yeah, a few mistakes kind of compiled towards

the end there.

Realistically, I don't really know if anyone was going to be don't just because own is

absolutely shredding.

And that yeah, with that nine, I mean, Taylor could have shot.

She would have had to shoot a six under to tie own very easily could have because that's

what she averaged the first two rounds.

But own absolutely shredded.

And like I said, down the stretch, I think the moment just got the Taylor a few times where

they were like really big crucial shots.

I'm thinking of even the whole 13 patent pending that she hit the tree was really started

things.

And what's interesting.

So she is, I mean, own how to play it a phenomenal term because if you look like statistically

hauling, for example, played a pretty good event very good.

She she put it well.

She threw pretty well.

She really just need to hit a few more fairways to catch on.

But the way on was playing down the stretch was insane.

And own, you know, obviously the putter was good, but she only made one C2 of it put

the entire event.

Yeah, that was why she hit 90% fairways in the final round.

Like she literally was dicing it up.

And one thing that I was really noticing is, you know, own a lot of the struggles for

the FPO field work, I think, you know, that Olympus course is such an elevation heavy course.

You have so many of those downhill, sometimes blind drives are over those big gaps.

And then the win would even come into play.

And a lot of players were struggling to throw accurate T shots and own because she was

able to utilize and she threw some good back hands off of those T's as well.

But a lot of times when she was in doubt and she could just rip those forehands trusting

the over stability, she was making it look easy when other players were trying to get

this to flip a certain way.

Some people were burning them over.

I mean, my gosh, just just a girthy at one point burned forehand over towards the end

of that round that was so tragic, like she chopped it so hard, but like own was dicing

it up.

She looked really, really good.

And you know, going into this event, you know, we called this really a throwers course.

But I didn't realize like for the FPO division, this course does not play that long.

Like they really soften up.

There are some gnarly, gnarly holes that they really do soften up for the FPO division.

Even for the men, like a lot of the holes that they are really, they can play really long

because you can get in trouble early, but you can get really good ground play.

And if you get like over, if you get around a corner enough or you get over kind of a hump

enough, like you can chew off a lot.

It's a very specific course.

I think for both divisions of like the landing zone to score a lot of times is very is accessible,

but it's either far away from the T and MPO, we see that there's certain like 550,

sorry, 450 plus foot carries in FPO, they're not as drastic, but they still for their division

are the equivalent of 450 some foot carries.

And it's like if you're in the right position, it's very scoreable.

Yeah.

But if you're a little off, then it's par.

If you're quite a bit off, it's insta bogey.

And I think that, you know, really one of the stars of the weekend was just a forehand

period.

We got own scoggins.

There was a lot more holes was funny because the thing that made you really notice it was

Chandler Kramer lead card MPO, which we'll talk about him in a second, but there was

a lot more holes that favored the forehand than I thought going into it.

And it might have just been because we were watching own and Chandler and they were obviously

if there is a forehand, those players, well, Chandler all as well and Sully came on coverage

too.

But kind of kind of yes, but also their unicorns in the sense of well, but I'm saying there

was even several holes where like in my head, it was a turnover backhand.

But we even saw like Paul and other guys go into forehand at times.

Yeah, there are four hands out there.

I mean, they're out of forehand core.

No, but they're out there and going back to Taylor, because I do think she's like really

one of the biggest stories of this event.

And somebody who I think a lot of eyeballs will be watching to see if she is for real this

year because, you know, obviously came into the sport, you know, a couple years ago now,

division one athlete, very talented athlete.

Let's talk about this for a second, just division one athlete.

I want to pause it there because of the fact that, you know, when you see a division one

track and field athlete, you can kind of question sometimes because like, there's so many

of them.

If you got that O on your chest, if you're a track and field athlete at Oregon, you're

legit.

Well, yeah, there's no way around that.

It's like top in the country.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

You're not like, I don't know if everyone in disc golf, like she's an athlete athlete

because if you are a track and field athlete at Oregon, that's like being a football athlete

at Alabama.

Pretty much.

Yeah.

Very good.

And this was really impressive.

I mean, those first two rounds, couple six unders.

What's interesting, you mentioned the forehand is I don't really know that I saw her throw

the forehand.

Maybe.

Let me go to it a ton.

Yeah.

A lot of stand stills.

You know, her distance gives her an advantage.

She was throwing a lot of mid ranges and I think that's what makes her exciting is I saw

glimpses of a Holland type player where it's like, okay, her distance is giving her this

advantage where she's keeping it in play.

I mean, it's it's going to work.

And then the putt was great because I'll putt it own scog.

Yeah.

I mean, statistically, the putt was good, but just looking at it and seeing how confidently

I mean, she was like, even she missed a couple towards the end of the round that, you

know, she hit band on a long par save attempt towards the end of the round.

We're like, she was ripping these spinputs that were like very good looking puts, you know,

all weekend long.

I think that this would be a super, super great for FPO if she's a player that can emerge.

It's way too soon.

Yeah.

But, you know, like the golf is what it is.

I mean, consistency we'll see, but like clearly the game is there because it's not like

she was just dominating due to distance like the putting was there.

You know, it was really just some scrambling and some accuracy things and release issues

down the stretch that cost her, but absolutely could have won this tournament.

And I think that is such an exciting thing for FPO to have maybe another player that can

challenge right away.

Yeah.

I mean, if you look at last year, her performance, really the only, there was kind of two bright

spots.

You had the 13th place at DiscMain in Challenge in a seven place at Northwest disc golf championship.

The rest of it.

I mean, she was kind of living around 25th to outside the top 25th, but if you look at

Supreme flight, like if you're wondering, because I thought of this of like, there's some

players that are just some courses they play very well at.

Yeah.

She came in 39th last year.

Yeah.

Well, it's not like, oh, she's just really good at Supreme flight.

And then when we go to these other courses, she's going to struggle like, which the next

stretch is going to be a stretch of golf we haven't seen before going to the Big Easy

Open and then going to Queen City and then even Champions Cup.

We haven't seen them play four rounds in a row at Northland at New London.

So I do think there's a stretch of golf coming up that we don't have much information

on.

Yeah.

To, she tied for second this year and was in command of this tournament for a little

bit there.

Very impressive turnaround one and Olympus is not a course that you could, you can't watch

that course and say, oh, like X player gets a huge advantage here just, just generically

because it is just a really demanding course.

I mean, the line that's why I think it's a throwers course.

The, well, yeah.

Well, it's, it's not only it's a throwers course, but sometimes we say throwers course

and it's like if you are somebody that dominates big hizers and like this is a different kind

of throws course, but this kind of throws course is like if you're not having a good weekend

throwing, it's miserable.

To be honest with you, I think the reason it's a throwers course is a lot of the greens

neutralize the putt.

Yeah, because you can't run as much as many greens are very, you can't even a lot of times

you can't even stick inside the circle, like I think it just, it takes a lot of the C2

puts out of it because a lot of times if you have a circle to put, you're at the bottom

of the mountain.

Yeah.

Look straight up.

Ask Paul about that.

But the, yeah, I, I really enjoyed watching Olympus this time around.

I think what the redesign was good.

And honestly, like as far as the courses on tour, this course has a ton of identity and

flavor.

It's very memorable.

The terrain is super cool.

I like that there are really well-defined fairways.

I think this is like a top.

I really watching again.

I was like, I think this is a pretty top tier course on tour.

I do think there's a little bit of randomness and some of the greens, I'm like, okay.

This is a little bit luck.

Like some of these greens are just like sitting up there and it's like, I hope I stick to it.

But overall, I really enjoyed watching it.

And yeah, I think that anybody that performed well at this venue, like they had a good weekend.

There's no way to really hack this course.

You have to hit lines and stay out of trouble.

Well, I think too, we saw this almost more in MPO than FPO to be honest with you.

But the, there's danger on every hole in some way, shape, or form because the holes

that have a more simple green tend to have a lot more OB.

And then like a lot of the greens are just like, if you didn't throw the perfect shot,

you might have crazy rollaways.

Like we saw Kyle Klein have some really bad ones.

You might sail the green.

We saw Paul McBeth go from C1 to like a hundred feet down the green on the first hole.

I did that one.

And so it's like that there's a lot of that type of danger that just makes it interesting

where two or three stroke swings can happen very often.

And I really like that.

I think this is the best place the tour has started, in my opinion.

I really liked the Vegas course, but allowing the tour to start over here on the East Coast

and the Florida weather in March.

I know there was a storm delay on the first day, but as far as like the warmth and stuff

you get there, in general, I mean, that day that it stormed was the first day it had

rained in over 20 days, I think they said.

So really bad luck by the pro tour there.

Worked out the other day.

But the other days were beautiful.

I think that the start down in Florida, I think the tour really has a good identity.

And I like the way the schedule flows from it too.

So, and I think the more we play this course, the more of an identity Olympus is going

to have.

Because I liked it the more this year than I did last year or even the year before.

And I think overall for FPO, one thing I did like about this tournament and made it enjoyable.

I thought the leaderboard was pretty well stacked.

Yeah.

Sometimes we get some crazy separation.

I thought it was good that the leaderboard was more bunched up.

I was disappointed.

You know, like I said, we kind of hit the midway point in that final round and it turned

into a, I don't want to win this, unless your own scoggins, in which case, she absolutely

took it from everybody, but you know, you saw Missy falling apart, Taylor falling apart,

Lisa falling apart, you know, everybody was got Jessica falling apart.

So it was kind of like, oh, here we go again.

So that's one thing I'd still, you know, it is weird.

I was still a little bummed out about, but but own sorgans played amazing golf to take

that tournament.

And it's not like she won by a million, either.

It was still very competitive and she had to continue making birdies down the stretch

to pull away.

She won by four off of chase card.

And that's one that's always a little rare because it's like, she finished and there was

legitimately, like they said it on commentary.

She was up by five, I think, on whoever, because I think they, I think Taylor birdied the

final hole.

She was up by five on Taylor, going to the final hole.

And they're like, literally if Taylor aceed up this par five, she was still loose.

Yeah.

So they were like, it's over.

We just had to wait for the trophy presentation.

And that's pretty rare.

Typically, if you have a chase card winner, there's some type of drama.

That's, well, that speaks to how stacked up the leaderboard was, because like the fact

that owned was close enough to do that, speaking of chase card, interesting FPO stat, first

of all, shout out to the stats department.

I feel like they were in their bag a little bit.

Like I think there were some, I kept seeing ones that were like, oh, that's interesting.

So shout to them.

Also all time, all time graphic, owned dogans.

That's it.

That's it.

Oh my.

I tweeted that whenever they put that one up there, they said, owned

dogans, DAWG, and that is electric.

I thought get owned was the best we had.

No, owned dogans.

I will buy that much, but here's a crazy stat, owns or Holland Hanley has never won when

trailing going into a final round ever, probably a pro tour only stat, but maybe not.

I mean, she, yeah.

So that, I think that's a fun narrative on if she is not winning the tournament has not

won.

And she's won a lot.

She has won a lot.

That is, that is very interesting.

She's not a chase down person.

Yeah.

We'll talk about Holland in a second, but I do want to highlight there was a few other

players that I was impressed with where they were.

First was Hannah Winn.

She was like, I forget exactly because of a look back at stats.

I don't remember she was in first or second, going into 18 on that second day, ended up

Cardinal 11 there, very unfortunate, but like she was in the best position.

She has been in at a chance for a win through 17 holes in round two before she blew up on

it on the 18th.

She's been touring since like 2022.

So I feel like that was, that was very promising there, MJ Gager.

She's 14.

She was in the top 15 going into the final round.

She ended up struggling the final round.

I think that was the narrative for a lot of these players were, they were doing very

good.

Final round kind of pressure got to them.

And for a player like MJ, who is their first year on tour, she was like two two unders to

open up on like that.

Something like that.

I can tell you.

Yeah.

It was the second round she was one under.

So I think she went back to back one unders.

Back back one.

Yeah.

One under one under, which again, in the final round, she shot seven over.

But I think that's, you're 14 year old and you're, you know, in the top 15, very, very

impressive there.

And then we saw Rebecca Don and Sofia Donica kind of continue the trend of last year where

they both finished in around the top 10.

I think they were just outside of top 10, but I think it'll really be those the storylines

for this year.

I think is okay.

Can someone like a Taylor Chosic continue that trend where she can get in the mix a little

bit more?

Can someone like Hannah Wynn, Rebecca Don, Sofia Donica, get up in there.

Will MJ Gager actually settles in turn into a player because if we can get two or three

of these to turn into, okay, going into a week, we have own, we have Holland, we have

Evelyn, we have Silva, and we have one of them.

Well, yeah.

Now we're in a really good spot.

We asked this question of the field every year, and I will say, I will say it, we are

going to get probably, like you mentioned, one of the most interesting starts with these

new courses.

I mean, going to Louisiana, like this big, easy open, like, for instance, I mean, who

knows?

Who knows?

We could, we could realistically be three events in a year, maybe even four and have

an idea about the FPO field or even the MPO as well.

But it's so wrong, like based on how the rest of the season will go after that, which

is great.

It's great for takes because like, you could have like Taylor Chosic just like have like

a win and a couple of top fives open up the year and then just fall face to the earth.

Like we can, we see this stuff happen like throughout the season.

I think the Taylor Chosic based on where she succeeded last year at Disk Mania, I really

want this to work out for her based on where she succeeded last year.

The success here doesn't surprise me.

Yeah.

I'm going to be watching her at Queen City.

I don't know anything about the big easy course yet.

The Jefferson Parish.

I don't know much about whether it's wooded opening, they like that.

But the Queen City classic and champions cup, those are the two on this front half that

I think are going to be big events for Taylor because if she can contend there, that I don't

think is her style game.

If she contends there, now I think we have a weekend, week out threat.

Well, here's the thing.

The putter was great.

So if that is truly what her putter is this year, she will be competitive because the

distance isn't going anywhere.

And if the putter is there, you kind of an FPO need two out of those three, like accuracy

distance putting, like, like hauling a lot of times will shred.

She'll throw it really far and accurately and that's usually when she's winning tournaments.

And the putter is good enough.

Yeah.

You know, own accuracy and putting is what leads her to victory.

And if Taylor Chosic puts like that all year long and like, like I said, I mean, anybody

can get the yips, but the way she was throwing those putts, it didn't look like that was

crazy to think.

And she's going to be in contention and long as she's not just spraying it, it'll be all

over the place.

Yeah.

Final player when talk about was when we looked at the stats, I was very interested, like,

okay, hauling lost by four, what did it for her?

And what I think was surprising to me was like, she, she held up putting basically throw

for throw with own.

I mean, she was 2% worse than C1 X.

But she beat her by 12% and she just missed a couple fairways.

It's OB.

So she went three of the strokes.

She lost on OB and then the rest was fairway percentage.

She was 7% worse.

So she missed four more fairways than own.

And I would argue, I'd really argue it in that sense, like given the layout of that

course, Hawn didn't really lose it on OB, OB or own wanted to go OB once, I'm just

looking just at it.

Yeah.

That's definitely where the difference is.

But like going OB four times across three rounds at that course is not that bad.

Even going OB once, that's insane.

So like that's really where own won the event.

No doubt was just, she diced it up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, it was, I think it was an event that going in, like if you told me going in own

scoggins was going to win, everyone had been surprising, never because if own wins

anywhere, I'm not surprised because if own scoggins, I would have thought that own

scoggins just outputted everyone is what I would have thought if you had told me going

in.

Oh, owns going to win this week and I would say, she probably hit a bunch of circle

two puts and stuff because I would have been in my head thinking other players are going

to out throw her.

But that's not what happened.

Like she really didn't out put the field at all.

She only hit one circle two putt.

She didn't put that well from circle two contendering own standard and she didn't even

putt considering own standard that well from circle one now.

She was in the mid eighties, but like she didn't just choke the field out with pudding.

She is out through everyone.

Yeah.

And like I said, I mean, just watching this event, sometimes you can tell where like own

is lagging behind in distance, but this is not like that.

I mean, it was I was never being like, oh, there's owns drive 50 feet in front of everybody

or behind everybody's.

It was not the case.

So it just wasn't that bad for her navigating.

Yeah, she crushed it.

Yeah.

First, first tournament, first win for own scoggins and Holland right there in it.

So I don't think we learned.

It wasn't like, okay, Holland's got some off season roughs.

So exciting stuff as we head into the next few events before Evelina and Silva and all

them show up.

I don't think any FPO player showed concerning amounts of like of the ones that we expect

be top competitors.

Like Ella and Missy were around.

No, Missy played better here than last year.

So like I wouldn't say there was a single player that was like maybe I didn't scroll far

enough, but I don't feel like anybody jumped out.

Can't merge 22 and paid its birds 23rd, not great.

Page had a bad.

I believe it was a second round.

I don't expect.

I don't expect it.

Yeah, she shot a no, it was her first round because she shot six under round two.

So she got seven over round one.

Yeah.

It doesn't shock me.

Yeah, I would say cat merged 22nd probably the most the probably the rusty like the most

rusty performance out of anybody.

I would say.

Now over an MPO, we were heading into the final round, seeming like it was going to be

kind of a Ricky Paul battle.

Ricky was at 18 under Paul's at 15 under and then run on lead card.

You had Kyle and Chandler both at 13 under and you also had Evan Smith on the chase at

13.

So with my head and you know, maybe everyone else wasn't thinking this way, but I was

kind of thinking like, okay, this is going to be a battle between Ricky and Paul and Kyle

has a chance of getting his name in.

That's kind of where my head was because Kyle was five back of Ricky.

And then immediately, whole one Ricky, Ysaki, yank left into a tree.

So I'm like, here we go.

Paul can tie this thing up almost in the first hole and then we see Paul go on to take

a triple bogey.

Yeah.

Turned out first available.

It was great.

Yeah.

First available was a good spot to be.

So Kyle gained four.

It's a collying two on Ricky, four on Paul and out of nowhere.

It's like, okay, we're writing this ball game.

But as the, as the round kind of started and went on, the storyline started to shift

to focus on Chandler Kramer.

And the Kramer dog out there was electric.

First off, he Monday qualified so he gets in barely Monday, and if he has original posts

about this event, this is the best part is his sponsors had to convince him to play.

Yeah, he didn't want to play.

I want to play because he knew as the most, he called it like either the first or second

most forehand unfriendly course on tour.

And it was convinced to play couldn't get exemption.

Monday qualified and torched it.

Yeah.

And then that leads him to this might be his highest finish of the year.

I mean, he was blowing Nate Sexton's mind.

He was blowing all three Nates.

Yeah.

All three Nates in the booth.

I saw someone posted it was like the disc golf, Nate work, but I mean, he was all,

he was throwing these forehand turnovers that were panning that were just like the level

of difficulty that he was consistently executing, especially on that front nine was incredible

just because that touchy forehand with that flippy of a disc where he can throw it on

hyzer and have it flip over in hand.

And there's no wind today.

Like if there was a little bit less hyzer, it's rolling.

It's it's very impressive.

It's very, very impressive.

I also noticed when they brought up the highlights that it was four years ago, we saw him

with the European open.

Yeah.

2022 when he emerged European open.

I'll never forget it.

Those orange shorts or whatever.

It was right.

Yellow shorts.

Right.

He said it looked like he rolled out of a PE class or something.

Yeah.

Who is this guy?

But yeah.

I didn't realize I was four years ago.

Time flies.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

But he really held his own.

He was very fun to watch.

It was very impressive.

He slipped a little towards the end.

Yeah.

Like tied six or whatever.

No, it's still a great finish.

I mean, hey, he's glad he was there.

Good cash.

Good points.

Absolutely.

On the back nine, the story started to shift because, like I said, I was expecting Ricky

Paul battle.

Maybe Kyle Klein.

I did not mention Ganon Burr going into it because Ganon Burr wasn't really on anyone's

radar going into it because he was eight strokes back.

He was at 10 under.

Ricky was at 18 under, which eight strokes on this course should it really be able to

be made up because your lead guy should shoot six, seven under and now you're asking someone

to shoot 14, 15 under.

Yeah.

Ricky who had just shot a course record was cruising.

Yeah.

He shouldn't have been the thing, but all of a sudden on the back nine with Ganon a

few holes ahead of Ricky, you started to realize like Ganon has a chance if Ricky just

pars out or if Ricky slips up at all.

And that's really what it turned into is Ganon was a few holes ahead.

And he was never.

Ganon was never fully in the lead where it was like, okay, yeah, he never he never actually

had the lead.

He always like if Ricky slips up or if Ricky slows and Ganon keeps this pace, then we

have something really interesting because he's about two holes ahead of Rick and really

what started laying the pressure was this stretch from 12 to 15.

Ganon went birdie, birdie, birdie, eagle.

And so when the eagle comes in Ricky, he is, I think he was on whole 13 if I'm not mistaken.

And so he parsed that hole, but Ricky held his own because then Ricky was able to go

birdie, eagle on 14, 15 and get it where he was fine.

But then going into 17, 18, we kind of had like, okay, Ganon is now in the clubhouse.

He birdies both.

And now you have Ricky and 17 and there's two stroke cushion.

And so really it's, okay, the commentary team was basically talking like these holes

shouldn't be that stressful to play for par.

And they're right as long as you execute.

And then all of a sudden Ricky doesn't execute T shot 17 early left.

He's got a trouble.

And this, I got to say, this was the moment that I think convinced me on the time extension.

You said, yeah, he's all, he's all the time.

I get, well, I saw him use it obviously because him has used one in the first round, but

makes it better.

Yeah, go ahead.

Yeah.

But I was going to say is so Ricky gets in the woods.

He's looking around all of this.

It's the most high pressure moment of the entire tournament.

Like this is the maker break shot because if Ricky doesn't cross the pond or if he throws

it too far and goes OB, like all of the sudden, he's going to have to do something on

18.

Probably just par, but still he's going to be stressed on 18.

And so this is the shot and the moment's building and all of that.

And then Ricky walks out and it's like, hey guys, I'm going to use my time extension

and walks up.

And I don't like how silly it sounds still because I think it's a silly thing.

But sex that made a good point, he's like, this is the reason the time extension exists

because this is the highest pressure, the moment of the tournament.

He said, and the last thing we need is for time to be what stress is like, we need to

let this shot happen.

Yeah.

And I was like, I fully agree with that statement.

I think what I, so that I liked the, I like how the time extension played out in the fact

that when Ricky needed more than 30 seconds, there was a way for him to get it.

Yeah.

I don't like that you have to call time extension because I feel like it should just

be a general understanding.

If pace of play is really an epidemic and this is just how it needs to be fixed, then

at least, yeah, it was very not what I liked is it was just very nonchalant.

It was, I mean, use time extension and that was it was like, it wasn't a big deal.

When it was originally brought up and originally talked through, I don't like either of us

were picturing players using their own time extension because the rule sounded more like

if I called you on it, I was forcing you to use a time extension because of like, oh,

you use 30 seconds, you have to use your time extension here.

Honestly, press it.

What it does say is it must be, like time must be at the front of players' mind for

you to even have the wherewithal to call that.

Yeah, both him as one and Ricky is in like, yeah, he's in winning time and Rick, you

know, he really impressed me throughout the round because there was just multiple times

where he had to just get his bearings right after whole one.

He's got a steady the boat.

He does the front nine is pretty quiet, but he's hanging on.

And then that back was really good, that eagle putt, I mean, that was so clutch, he could

have laid up realistically.

He was never going to lay it up and he jammed it, controlled his destiny there.

And then, yeah, the upshot on 17, like to park that.

Well, the second shot on 17 was impressive.

We didn't get to see it land, but where it ended up landing was impressive.

Oh, it was really good.

And then that, I mean, that for me and what he, what I really think was clutch because

Ricky's putt was not on that day.

Like he hit the one, he hit some of the ones he needed to hit, like every one he was

stepping up to was like, I was not confident any of them were going in.

I don't think he was confident any of them were going in.

And so what he did on the stretch though was his up shots were so good that there was

the putt that it mattered, like 17, he penned and then 18, he throws a good, a fine drive

to where okay, realistically, just blow this thing through the OB Island, like just miss

this thing long because once you go OB, you just pitch up and you win, but he makes the

one mistake.

That was insane.

The saw off forehand, it never crosses.

He has to go to the bottom.

But then even from there, from there, he puts it to again, basically touching the

base.

Just stepped up.

Because what I was thinking in my head was obviously nerves are getting to him because

he hasn't won an over 800 days at this point.

Nerves are clearly getting to him because over 800 days on U.S. soil, yes, he won the

ED.

That was in 2024.

So I guess that's what 600 days, not quite.

I think they said it had been two seasons for basically since the season and a half a long

time.

Long time for Ricky and clearly the nerves are getting to him because the shot on 17,

he messes up.

He clutches up, gets out of that situation.

Then 18, one shot left, basically no way he loses, especially if he just pulls a sign

in the Zot from music city open or D-glow or whatever.

I think it was D-glow a few years ago and just blast it over the green where he crosses

anywhere up there.

Then he go to walk up there and just tap, like drop it and tap it out and said he saws

off his forehand.

And so now he has this tricky backhand turnover that he has to get up the mountain and

get somewhere.

And if you leave yourself a 25 footer, I typically love Ricky to make that yesterday.

I don't think I love Ricky to make that.

Under that amount of pressure, it had been incredibly, incredibly easy to turn that into

a tester or even leave it like short OB again.

And the fact that he put it close like that, obviously there was the piece of me that

was like, well, play off here, be fun.

But like that would have been a brutal way to watch somebody lose.

And it was very, it was very clutch.

You could tell when he got to the top of the hill, he was very excited to see how close

that was because I'm sure he's just thinking like, oh my gosh, I got to make a putt

now because he lands his drive perfectly.

But yeah, big win for Rick, big, big way to start the season, get that early momentum

for a guy like him who, you know, every really top player is always looking to start their

momentum going early because they're all I think they said that Ricky had never won

the first disc golf pro tour of it ever.

I'm pretty sure that was a stat they threw up there.

Yeah, I don't know that he ever won in Vegas.

You might have won in Vegas was an in T, but I think they'd said he had never started

the pro tour season with a win, but for I'm pretty sure I saw that stuff.

Yeah, for Rick, not only to get this season going, but yeah, just get, you know, kind of

clear out last year and get right back on track, that's a huge for his personal confidence

in the narrative.

Yeah, the putt wasn't even all the way there, but just some tremendous scrambling forehand

was looking great, you know, trusting a lot of his disc.

I think that's key too is like, I think there were questions last year like, okay, is he

trusting this these new discs, the new bag, the putter, maybe not, but those forehand

approaches when he needed them were dialed, they were dialed, yeah, he was 78% C1

except final round.

Oh, other stat.

I just remember this other stat they showed about own that I loved was that like she had

already cleaned up three wins this year, like she won wintertime Lomarata and Memorial

already.

Yeah, like owns Goggins is just raking and cash on dogans, but again, and poor guy can't

get 1100 to save his life.

He last year had like, I think three or four, 1090 plus rated round, this was 1095, 13

under final round, incredible round.

Gans took off the Ross because by the end of that tournament, it's a good thing he started

slow because nobody was beating him while he was playing by the end of that because round

one, he came out the gates with a five under, round one, he was in 13th place and then

he shot, I guess, another 500 because he was a 10 under after round two.

So he was in ninth place.

And like I said, I mean, eight strokes back, I just didn't even think it was possible.

And then 13 under to Ricky six, he lost by one, Gannon's right back there.

Yeah, shocker, Gannon Burr, still good, still very good to disc off, bogey free 13 under.

And I mean, there was, it wasn't mistake free.

Like there was a trying to think where that there was somewhere in this middle stretch

that he, it might even been 16.

There was somewhere in that middle stretch that he was like, oh, it was 16, he was out

of position.

It's 16 to par four, he threw out of the woods to the landing zone and then up and

around the right 16, I think it is 16.

Yeah, I think he was early and early early and had to get a great pitch out and then

a really good forehand up.

He had to take his medicine on 16, but yeah, all in all, great tournament, very fun to

watch.

So excited to disc off his back Sullivan, Tipton, you know, starts right off where he left

off top five finish.

When I'm at a, at a course, I don't think is a hundred percent Sullivan friendly.

I did pick him in my top three, but hey, missed him.

He came in top five.

Shout out even on him.

Really the downside surprises, the people who finished worse than I would have expected.

Anthony Borella, 30 second.

Yeah, definitely.

I'm one on that list.

Number one on that list.

Yeah.

Very, very set.

Eight or 50th, Austin Turner, 50th, shout out my boy Joel Freeman for winning me the

Dark Horse pick there.

Yeah.

What the heck, Austin, bro?

That was crazy.

That Joel Freeman.

I think it's not going to the top 10.

He did.

Good for him.

Yeah, 13 under there.

I think a lot of these players that played really well are, I think like mentally pretty

tough disc offers because I think some of those early conditions, like just wiped out

some people.

And then, you know, a lot of guys were just defeated after that first day.

Well, I mean, Eagle McMahon was in a really good position.

He was also at 10 under going into that final day and shot one over, final round.

Yeah.

So that's another one we're like, Eagle was looking good.

Like he was looking fine.

If he could have shot.

Got to be five or six under.

You would have been in the top 10.

You got to be so on point to play that course well on over.

So it'll be on point.

It'll be interesting to kind of watch these storylines unfold as it this year goes on.

But it seems that players who were good last year are going to be good this year.

Now pick them results, tour life against us in FPO.

We took Holland Hanley, Rebecca Cox and Madison Walker that earned us two points more.

They took Ella Hansen, Kat Merch and Sophia Donica.

We're just better at FPO.

We know FPO locked in FPO.

And then MPO picks, you know, we took Niklas Antila, Anthony Brella and Ezra Robinson

to their Paul McBeth, Calvin Heimberg, Kyle Klein.

You would have thought this is going to be neck and neck probably.

I'd probably give the rip lock guys some edge, right?

Because we have last year's winner.

We have two years ago's winner who also came in second AB and then Niklas has played this

course historically pretty well.

Those three flickers earned us 1.5 points.

And luckily it's Ezra who's on team foundation under the point.

Yeah.

And like, okay.

He lost by 23 points.

Antila and Ezra I can't even be mad at because like Antila just outside the top 10 Ezra got

in the top 10.

AB taking 30 second.

He was our, that was our horse.

Like that was our guy.

Yeah.

You know, because like at the end of the day, like they, they took like their horse, you

know, was kind of Paul.

He did what he had to and then they went with Calvin too.

He whiffed.

And then they got, they get Kyle sneaky Kyle.

We guys, we suck.

I mean, look, we don't.

We don't.

We don't.

We do.

We lose.

When I looked at those point, Donald was like, I almost gasped.

I almost dropped my phone.

I want to be one of the 18.

I want to be able to look at the graphic and just mentally go back to Thursday.

And if it's all that graphic matter, because it's Monday, who would have picked a better

team?

I think we won.

I think we picked a better team.

Just like, and we curse him somehow.

I don't know what goes on.

I just keep saying this, but then it like last year was like, eventually it'll write

the ship.

I think new Anthony Borrello was coming to 30 seconds.

I think last year, there's no way.

I don't know if Uli is like out there kneecapping people or what's going on.

I think last year we legitimately won like two of the weeks of the whole season.

So like, we just suck.

But like that, but we, those are good picks.

No, they're not.

They're not good picks.

They weren't this weekend, but like going in, those are like good picks.

Well, we'll see what happens next week.

We got to get this thing figured out.

Cool.

Here's a good news.

Well, no, and this isn't good news is because Uli will be out there.

So Uli will know more about this, this New Orleans course.

So next with next Monday, we have sources.

We can just ask a next Monday.

We get first pick, we can block them.

We just need to start reaching out to players, but hey, like, what's that new course

looking like?

Who's it going to favor?

But who are we trusting people?

Well, we just don't ask people that have, we're not going to ask Uli.

Well, I'm saying people would have been like, people would have told us a B at chest

that we could trust Paul Krants.

He that's a guy that will give it to us straight.

He will.

He'll tell us again.

And what we need to do is just text again and be like, hey, again, we can pick you

eight times this year.

I need you to tell me, when are you like, I'm for sure winning this tournament.

See, at an unknown course, I'm like, so back and forth, it's like, okay,

then you just take the best player or do you wait and take Ganon at a track that he

just dominates and just like big easy open.

Jake, even I remember what we had, what we need to do before, because so how

this year's works, if you didn't watch the preview show or tour life, is we draft

back and forth.

So tour life had first picks this year and we can't pick the same players and you

get eight players.

You can pick a player eight times, right?

So it going into the big easy open, it's we get first pick.

So whoever we pick, then tour life won't be able to pick on Tuesday night.

So realistically, what we need to do, Trevor, is we need to look at the map,

get the schedule and see what are our tournaments we have first pick.

Because realistically, we're going to use Ganon on eight of those.

Because Ganon's not going to fall into our lap.

He did this week.

Well, yeah, but no one was picking them because Ganon was telling everyone, I

don't think I'm going to be able to start.

I, I also, I did not push her through the pick and pick.

I, because I didn't want to use one of her eight.

But I also, I took him in my top three.

Like I still thought Ganon was going to do well.

Yeah, it's just, this was, he did, he finished outside.

I know, but I was telling anyone who would listen, but looking back

rusty.

I haven't played much disco looking back at our MPO picks.

Like, yeah, I would not have changed them.

No, because if we took Ganon, we wouldn't have been able to take a B or

Andrew.

So what the heck?

That's what I'm saying.

If you look at our picks, like I wouldn't have been able to talk me out of these

three next week can be wild because there's, but what, but we do need to, we

probably need to go ahead and strategize like where are we taking Ganon?

Because if we, if we have every other pick, I don't think he's going to fall

into it last many times.

We're going to take him to the spots that we're any, and I think any event

that he won last year that we have first pick on, we take him and we say that's

what I'm saying is we need to go ahead and see that.

We need to do that math.

Yeah, because if not, we might not get a chance to pick Ganon eight times.

We definitely need to make sure we get him eight times.

That's what I'm saying.

We got to make sure we pick him on, because if not, it's going to be like a

random course that he doesn't like and he happens to fall to us that week.

And it's like, okay, well, we have to take him.

So we got to make sure we line that up.

But we're, we're going to look, that's one week.

That's one week, one week.

All it takes for them is they pick someone and their player almost misses

cash like AB did to us.

Are we ever picking AB again?

I've got some healing to do, but here's the problem is like, it's going to hurt

so bad when like the next event we don't take them and then they do any wins.

AB, but here's, AB like he is not a predictable.

He is liable to do to what he, to do to us, what he just did this week.

Like he is liable to do that.

Already second, though, at this course, like he, he played, he takes stinkers.

But most ampere players do, unless you're getting burned, you're going to take

the last two years, he has been so good.

At supreme flight, we had good precedent.

He literally only finished outside.

Okay, he finished outside the top 30 at idle wild and MVP open last year.

That's it.

That's it.

And then he just did it here for us.

Thanks, AB.

I'm going to think say be sure.

Yeah, he went first second.

I mean, he starts the season so well typically.

Yeah, I'm like, he hasn't finished outside the top.

30 before like June in the last few years.

And he just does it first event.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's maybe we're cursed.

I think we're cursed a lot of curse is surrounding this show in general.

I think so.

You know, I think, yeah, I don't really know what to do there.

Anyways, we're down 23 points.

Just one more week.

One week, we gave him a few.

Let's just chip away.

Wait, let's just flip up.

I don't like playing from behind this early, but we are.

I mean, there's what it is.

41, 18, I was like, ah, how plausible.

I literally, I literally

I added up their points because I thought Edwin did the math wrong.

That's funny.

Look at them.

I looked at the points.

I was like, that can't be 41 points.

I was like, it is.

Yeah.

Well, because they had third and fourth in MPL, like that's hard to do near

and possible to do to get third and fourth.

It's not that hard.

They took Paul and Calvin.

They took no, Paul and Colin.

Well, that's true.

But I mean, to get two guys in the top four, it's impressive.

If you get a top four out of the $2 tier, that's what I'm saying.

That's hard.

It's hard to do.

All right.

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Okay, I got a fun game today.

Connor's not here.

So we're going to have to call in and bullpen.

You guys are going to need Tyler for this.

He's going to be substitute.

Well, let's go.

So because we need because you're there's two.

There's one might be off just a heads up.

No, it's there's one overall team today.

And so this their team, you're all on a team.

But those two, it was going to be Connor and Salis.

Now it's Tyler and Salis are your current events pop culture,

evaluators and advisors.

Okay.

And you're, you're the disc golf advisor in this game.

Understood.

So probably wise, um, they're going to help you inform your decision.

Both ways, you'll, you'll understand in a second.

So the name of this game is, which was first, the last time this player was

under a thousand rated or who?

So I'm going to give you a player under and then I'm going to give you like a

event or instance or whatever related to like pop culture, sports, the

world, whatever.

And you're going to have to tell me which was first, the last time that

player was under a thousand rated or whatever the other thing is, which

happened first.

Okay.

So there is, let's see.

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 of these, I believe

I would be pretty impressed.

If you, I mean, last time you went perfect.

So I think you should go for like seven out of 10.

I think that would be pretty.

I have a thousand.

I don't think a thousand is going to be very hard just because it probably

means before a player was on tour.

Yeah, you have, you'll have like the time guys are on tour.

They're thousand rated.

You will have, yes, but like using that logic, you will be able to work

backwards.

There's a lot of guys that got a thousand rated before they were torn.

Yeah, but you know, I don't think I definitely don't, I think if you,

if you can guesstimate when the players on this list entered tour, which

you definitely can, you'll do okay.

You'll get general ideas.

Okay.

First one, Paul McBeth or the launch of Instagram, which happened first.

Instagram was probably 2012.

Team cup pop culture.

What do you, I mean, they were, they were for

an elementary school when Instagram launched his bikes off.

I think it's, I think it's power switch.

Yeah, I say, I think it turned it off.

I'm about to get actually lit.

I'm just going to take it when did, when, give me, or 2010 might have been

Instagram, because never turn on a microphone.

What grade was I in?

I was one of the like early, well, like, like, it came out when the iPod

touch came out.

I know.

Still, because I was doing the, yeah, it is.

It is now.

I was doing the daily Instagram photo challenges.

Oh, Instagram was four.

What?

Yeah, you'd post it and you'd put a hashtag whatever day.

And like, that's what, that's what I don't remember.

I know.

Well, like I said, you were a fetus.

I think that was like 2010.

I want to say, because I was, what grade was I in?

Cause my brother, you're in like, I don't think my brother, you're like a senior

in high school.

So it's probably 2008, 2010, somewhere in there.

So I'd have been like middle school, um,

but Paul, that started to work around that time.

That doesn't matter though 1000 rated 1000.

Although ratings were worse back then, right?

It was harder to get 1000 rated.

I think 2009, Paul came like second at M worlds, 0809, something like that.

And I don't think he would have been 1000 at that point.

So these are going to be like within a year of each other.

I must say Instagram, unless y'all disagree.

I think Instagram came out before Paul was a thousand.

Yeah.

I think I like that.

I like that thought process.

Give me Instagram first.

Paul 2008.

That's what I'm saying.

Like that's both like Paul Instagram.

Well, like I said, if you use your logic of like when he emerged and you kind of just go

backwards, that's what I did.

Well, but he was playing M worlds around 0809.

I didn't know he was 1000 rated playing M worlds.

Was he playing M?

Was that one pretty sure?

I mean, that's speculation.

I don't know.

I'm not sure.

Okay.

Next.

Well, you're was Instagram 2010, you're right on there.

Dude, 100, you know dates.

I got my heck of date guy.

Okay.

Well, I mean, because like if you use, if you use your logic of like, I used my

logic, I got it wrong.

Instagram, if you were, if you were dialed in on Insta being 2010, to say Paul was

after that would mean it would be like right before he won worlds.

So that would be a stretch two years boy one world.

Well, no, but two full years.

They can't be the same year.

They can't be the 20th.

The answer can't be the same year.

So I've been 2011.

Doesn't say you get it for like 2010 to 2011.

I'm just saying I had been one year before winning a world title, just

saying if you use my logic, I use my logic, it was wrong.

I guess you use logic that you could have used by getting to 2010.

Anyways, next one, Ganon Burr or Tiktok becomes the most downloaded app in the US.

Oh, Tiktok's got to be before Ganon.

Wait, no, it's 1000 rated.

Ganon was 1000 rated like, you're shaking your head to speak up as a podcast.

Ganon was, I think Ganon Burr with more Tiktok.

So, so Ganon, I'm thinking like 2020 ish, 1000 rated, 2019.

Tiktok blew up in COVID, right?

Or is it before COVID?

Well, at some point it was freaking musically.

Well, true, travel, what, what are we counting here musically or no?

This is when Tiktok becomes most downloaded app in the US.

So it's Ed and I don't think musically was never the most downloaded app in the US.

It was never that big.

Remember, this is, this is like, it's big.

It's what year we take Ganon before.

What year are we thinking for Tiktok?

But Mr.

Like, yeah, probably like 2020 or 2021, the Ganon was 1000 by then.

So I think we got to say Ganon was 1000 before.

So you're going with?

Yes.

That was correct.

Ganon Burr, 2019, youngest ever to be 1000.

Good job.

2016, when he was 1000, I think it was 15, Tiktok was 2020.

So yeah, I was COVID, that did that.

All right, one for two, not bad.

Okay, next we've got Sullivan Tipton or the Tiger King releases on Netflix.

This is a shot of the dark.

I have no idea what's the leaf.

Oh, wow, yeah.

The Tiger King was in COVID, like 2020, 2021.

But like Sully, that's what I'm saying.

Sully could have been dominating the local scene and been 1000 rated easily.

You don't know enough about Sully.

Oh, no, I don't know what he was doing at Alabama, C tier.

Yeah, no story.

How long has he been playing, huh?

He's been touring for like three years, but that means nothing.

Yeah, but like, I feel like I don't like a multi-sport guy.

Like I was one of those guys that played a sport and then got into disc golf.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

It's like, you can be 1000 rated off of one tournament.

So I think he could have never not been 1000 rated for all I know.

I have no idea.

I think he's been playing disc golf for a long time, but I don't know when he

crested 1000 like because he did that probably on his local scene.

So I have no clue.

I think we flip a coin.

Tiger King.

You like Tiger King, Tyler?

Yeah, just because I'm not confident Tiger King first.

That's correct.

Now let's go.

Yes, Sully is one of those guys that like at the time he started playing,

he was 1000 rated almost instantly.

Yeah, because he was just really athletic.

So so like was 1000 rated last time, the high rock.

Last time was 2021, Tiger King.

Yeah, 2020 again.

Those are some of the tougher ones.

You just got two of the tougher ones.

Okay.

Next, we got Ricky Wiseauky or Michael Phelps wins eight gold medals.

Oh boy.

That was what?

Oh, eight Beijing Olympics.

Is that oh eight or 12?

So eight.

Oh, 100.

London.

Yeah, yeah.

Tyler used to swim, right?

Yeah, I know there's no way Ricky 1000 rated.

He doesn't know that's I'm saying because that'd be before Paul and Ricky's like several

years younger than Paul.

So I'm saying Michael Phelps, that is correct.

Ricky, 2010 Beijing, 2008.

All right.

Two for three.

You guys are rolling.

Traveyor, right?

You guys are rolling here.

Next one, you get you really need team pop culture.

I thought you might know about this too.

Isaac Robinson.

Or Pokemon Go launches in the US.

That's what 2019 knows when I was before that.

It was 16 year of college, 16, I think.

Cause Devon Schwartz was the absolute dominating force of Pokemon Go.

I thought you were going to say, I was a Robinson.

I have no clue on Isaac.

I don't think I even heard the name.

Isaac Robinson to like 2020.

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying is like there's so many 1000 rated guys that are local

like all in Carter was 1015.

He's been playing for like 2016.

I don't know about 2016.

I'm saying in 2016 where there are a lot of 1000 rated guys.

Yeah, yeah, like especially in the Georgia Carolina area, like Dick or sin wasn't

bad.

How old was was Isaac in 2016?

He's younger than me.

Is he younger than you?

I thought he's the older brother.

He's he's he's I think he's I think he's I'm saying a year younger than me.

Are we going 16 for Pokemon Go?

I feel like that's it.

Okay, we'll go Pokemon Go first.

Yeah, it's correct.

2016 was Pokemon go 20.

So this is actually surprising.

Isaac was 2017.

That is very early considering what I would have thought about Isaac Robinson.

And I'm pretty sure we're either the same age or he's a year younger.

So that means he was young when he hit 1000 rated.

Okay, you guys have only got one wrong.

Next we got now we're really going to back it up now.

We got kale La Vista or the first episode of American Idol airs.

Oh, China nothing about American Idol.

I mean, that was what's American Idol?

That could isn't that like really long time ago?

Like it was four to five.

Kills like four in his 40.

Yeah, I mean, well, yeah, 100.

You should know about this.

I never watched American Idol.

What did ratings even ratings and ratings have existed for a very long time.

I mean, I probably wasn't even born when that show started.

So I don't know if I can help out with this one.

I think we flip a coin because I know nothing about kale La Vista's career, nothing.

And I know nothing about American Idol.

I mean, if it's true that ratings were harder to get back then, then I would say to American Idol.

I like that.

I like American Idol first.

That's correct.

There we go.

It's guys got insane.

American Idol 2002.

Yeah.

You were not born and then kale La Vista.

Oh, five.

That's crazy.

Okay.

You guys just only got one wrong.

It's just we just find guess every game is so easy, man.

Yeah, apparently next you got Calvin Heimberg, the only one I was confident on.

We got wrong.

Calvin Heimberg, yeah, that's funny.

Or the first Avengers movie hits theaters.

I was like 2010, 2012 somewhere around there.

I'd say before I'd say Calvin got that before.

For sure, Calvin.

I think he's like, if it's 2012, though, if that's real, there's no way because Ricky was 2010

when he got the order in that and the movie.

No, it's not.

I don't think it's older than 2010.

I'm saying, I'm saying 2010.

You think you think you're saying 2012 because the movie was 2010.

If Avengers is 2010, Ricky, why socky Trevor told us was thousand rated in 2010.

Ricky, there's no way to be a thousand before Calvin.

Yeah.

So I think we're going Avengers before Calvin.

Yeah, that's correct.

Let's go 2012.

Oh, it was 12.

Calvin was 2014.

Yeah.

Wow.

You guys, you guys are great.

You only got three more here.

Next, we've got Maddo or LeBron James is drafted first overall by the Cavs.

That's what Oh three.

Is that LeBron's first season?

LeBron's got to be before Maddo is old.

He's older than you think every time.

Yeah, but the ratings thing, the thousand rated.

I mean, what Killavisco is to O5?

We said Kill was O5.

I think Maddo is proud.

Maddo is worse than him.

Really?

They would have been in the, yeah.

Maddo once again, I wasn't even alive.

Oh, what, what is, what?

Maddo wore that freaking baseball jersey at world's lead card.

What the frick year was that?

That's like, oh, eight.

So did Maddo use to be good?

Yeah.

Maddo has been good for a long time.

He's been good for a long time.

Well, he's not going more.

Am I right on LeBron?

It's 2003.

Is that a fricking season?

Anyone?

Bueller?

Bro, I was two years old.

Cause he's been in this, this is his 20.

These guys don't look back in time.

I guess this, they weren't alive.

It didn't happen.

This is his 23rd season in the NBA.

That sounds right.

So I put him at O3.

I think he's like 40 years old.

I mean, you guys, your gun is, I'm a go, I'm a go.

Maddo first, Maddo first.

Wrong dude.

Dang.

Yeah.

Maddo.

No three.

Yeah.

Maddo for, that was a kind of a tough one.

Cause I think I would have guessed similarly.

I had no idea, Maddo.

All right.

Only got two wrong.

Got two more here next.

We got Anthony Berrella or the Eagles win their first

Super Bowl with Nick Foles at quarterback.

Oh, what year was the Eagles like 2016?

Yeah, I wasn't high school anymore.

No, did we watch that with foundation?

No.

I know exactly where I was during that Super Bowl.

Tyler, what does that mean?

That what there's there is there.

I was a distinct reason I know exactly where I was during

that Super Bowl.

Don't know your brother.

Listen, man, anything past a month ago is a blur.

Who?

What's the player Nick Foles?

No, not the, oh, AB Anthony Berrella.

He's been playing for a long time.

Yeah, but he was, he's not old.

He's, uh, he wouldn't have been a thousand rated.

It's hope he was probably like, prick 18.

So how to be.

AB probably came thousand rated in like 2019ish.

What year do you think AB was born?

No idea.

Um, I think he's younger than Trump.

Give me, I'm thinking, I'm thinking to fill it up.

You Eagles first.

What do you think?

I'm going to Eagles first wrong.

Eagles was 2018.

I know because I was with a very toxic Philly's fan in college

when that happened, um, and then AB 2016, because you remember

he won US, uh, and, and, and worlds in 2015.

And then it was against the next year that he was probably like 15 years old.

You've been 15.

Is that right?

No, it couldn't be because Ganon was the youngest of 15.

He, I think he's only a year younger than me.

I thought he was like, I was trying to do the math on like 16 or 17.

No, he would have been 16 because I think he's, I think he would, I think he's a year younger.

Okay, last one, Simon LaZaat or Gangnam style becomes a viral sensation.

Uh,

like 2011, 2012.

Was it that long ago?

Yeah.

I feel like I was like a junior in high school.

He's a rewind man.

Oh, was this like, you know,

I'm just trying to think of what high school dance I was at doing Gangnam style.

Oh, that's, this is, that's good stuff there.

That's good data.

And I'd like a video.

I think I was at the, uh,

what year was that last one's birthday?

Was that senior year prom?

No, it was not senior year.

I'm just trying to remember for the sophomore junior.

Cause that would either put us to like 2013, 14,

the 12 to 14 12 to 14.

What do you think about Simon?

Simon, it means nothing.

I don't know.

These guys like got context.

I don't for Simon.

For mother players.

But Simon's been playing since he was a kid.

Like we're all I know Simon could have been 1000 rated at 16.

He could have been 1000 rated at 20.

Okay.

And like, I don't even know how old he is.

When was older than me?

He's got to be like 30, 30 something we're getting there.

But like 15 years ago, it was 2011.

So like, there's, there's no way to zero in on a,

I don't know when he became 1000 rated and I don't know how old he is.

So I can't zero in on a year.

So all I can zero in on is they both happen around the same time.

Which I think is the point of this game.

Simon, these did not happen around the same time.

I was saying Simon came first.

It didn't happen around the same time.

Then that would, that would lead to make us believe that it would be even later like 2015 or 2016 that Simon had 1000 rated.

There's no way that's true.

So it's got to be way before Gangnam style.

I would agree.

If they, if they aren't close, there's no way, because Gangnam style, or Gangnam style,

I know is in that like 2010 to 2013 range.

I said before that based off of that.

And so if they're not close, then Simon has to be before Simon was off.

That's correct.

It doesn't.

I was trying to trip.

Well, yeah.

I mean, I was trying to like the context I was talking about was like the fact that Paul and Rick,

like the other guys were around that same era.

Like that was, they're on the same age.

That's so, so we missed three.

That was kind of cool.

Sometimes you just get into these games and you just just don't care.

I couldn't, I couldn't.

I didn't know.

I had no way to know when a player turned 1000 rated.

I was a blind guest.

But you, you like all of these players had one that you bury important thing common,

which was all of them within three years of them joining tour is when they became 1000 rated.

Like pretty much all of them.

So like there was like that was the consistent theme there.

That's a six year gap.

Uh huh.

Within three years of them joining tour, you got three years before three years after six year gap.

I couldn't figure it out.

They didn't join, none of them joined tour before they came 1000 rated.

We said within three years.

All right.

Tough guy.

No, I did it.

I legit didn't know what that meant.

Yeah.

No, I mean in the other direction.

I had no idea.

Hey, we dominated.

We want 70%.

You did dominate.

Tyler, I think you're free, man.

If you want to, if you want to say that funeral is over.

You can, that was like the quietest trivia of all time.

I could have figured it out.

It helps.

You did help.

Yeah.

That was good.

That was good tie.

We dominate.

We got, we got very lucky.

But we won.

We were, we were dialed on the pop culture years.

When did Gangnam style come out?

It was 2012.

So yeah.

No, you did not guess wrong.

The only one we missed was Nick Foles.

Yeah.

You were, you were very dialed in on that.

We were, we were dialed on those.

For, I think we got the exact year on all the others.

Just about.

Except for the Nick Foles one.

Which is the one that we probably should have done.

But no one follows the equals.

I just couldn't remember where I was at with the Super Bowl party.

If I could remember where I was during our college,

Disgolf era, because I remember talking about it with meek.

No, I knew I was in college.

I just couldn't remember if it was, I knew I was at a Super Bowl party.

I couldn't remember if it was a foundation Super Bowl party.

If it was a college Disgolf Super Bowl party or if it was a church Super Bowl party.

Because that's the like.

Yeah, I watched it in my whole.

Transition era.

So I think it must have been, it was probably college Disgolf Super Bowl party.

Well, I had a bite.

All right.

If it was, I wasn't invited.

No, I was there.

You didn't come to all the game night and stuff.

Yeah, I know.

I invited the whole team to have everything.

You have never showed up.

Wow.

I didn't want to go there.

I didn't want to go there.

Yeah, I didn't go to game night.

I had a prior engagement on Tuesday nights.

Sproodle.

Sproodle.

But, um,

There was a Super Bowl party.

I would have been there.

Oh, no, I just had a fine picture.

There's Super Bowl.

Yeah, I mean, I could say that.

I don't know.

I don't know.

But in 19 year old, he was doing, I don't know.

I got a picture of the whole Disgolf team except for Trevor.

Yeah.

I remember where I was watching it.

So Disgolf Pro Tour announced the last week, uh, shortly after the podcast.

Things like Tuesday.

Their new live coverage plan here.

So this is a directly correlated.

They said things in large part, two power balls partnership.

Um, essentially, there's, there's two main changes.

So one of them wasn't actually seen its Supreme flight will be seen upcoming,

which is the first round free is now going to be exclusively on the Disgolf network.

So the Disgolf network app now has a free tier you can join.

And so if you join that free tier, you now can watch the first round free only on DGN.

The secondary thing that's new is the first hour of every round is now free on YouTube.

Um, so those are kind of the two big changes.

Uh, you still have your standard and pro subscription packages with all the different, um,

exclusive things such as like the pro subscribers get European open and USDGC.

They also have exclusive access to throw pink women's, um, which runs alongside USDGC so on and so forth.

Uh, so thoughts on this.

First, I think the first hour free on YouTube, I think Brody's been pushing for this for a decade at this point.

Uh, not actually a decade, but almost, um, makes a lot of sense to me.

I think having first X percent free on YouTube is a great model of growing the DGN

and also helping grow live coverage in general because it gets a lot of people and get it some invested in the round

and then they have to go to there.

Uh, the first round being free only on DGN, I think is a phenomenal model to grow DGN.

Yeah, I don't like it for growing live disc golf, um, or growing disc golf in general.

Mainly my logic here is when we have a bunch of people watching live YouTube,

it can get in the YouTube algorithm pretty easily because having, you know, 10,000 plus or 8,000 plus people watching a live stream.

That's a big live stream, a very big live stream.

You think it takes over an hour for that effect to take place?

I think for it to have the chance to get into people's algorithm because you, you peak,

the peak watch isn't within the first few holes.

That's true.

So you're not going to hit your peak number until midway.

And even if we are, let's say they do hit their peak, it's probably towards the end of the first hour.

And then if you're just now hitting it, like if you have five hours of an average concurrent,

which is probably four hours closer, you have four hours of an average concurrent people watching

at like 8,000 people, that's a big live stream on YouTube, like really big.

And that's just a normal round.

I think some of the majors and stuff, they push closer to 10 to 12k watching MPO.

Like that I think does have a chance to reach outside of disc golf.

And so I do, I don't like that we're taking that away,

but I do like that we're providing the hour free.

So I think it's a win, win for the disc golf network, win, lose for disc golf.

Yeah, I mean, it's a compromise play for sure, because they're, you know, they're trying to throw people a bone,

but then also, like trying to grow their subscription base, because like we've seen, you know, constantly that they prioritize that,

that subscription base, that set fixed revenue over everything.

And so, yeah, I think that it's great.

I think that it's great that they're at least offering a piece of every round.

Like I do think having like final round first hour, like on YouTube will be huge,

because if you get people into that, you know, that's when like, that's when you really can go.

Well, like this final round, you would have seen the first hour, you would have seen Chandler Kramer shredding,

you would have seen Ricky hitting the first tree and Paul Triple Bogey.

Yeah, very interesting.

It would have been like, oh, wait a second.

Yeah, I do, I do think that doing the entire first round free on DGN is an interesting play,

because if it's me, like, what is the incentive to do that?

If it's already on YouTube, it just gets in your way.

You see it.

And I'm like, okay, I'll click on that.

But if I've got to make the decision to download DGN and make an account just to watch a round that has basically no effect on the outcome of the term.

I mean, that's not true, but like as a viewer, I'm not watching anything super consequential.

Why am I doing that?

I think it's just that it's just die hard disc golf fans.

You're sitting at work and you can throw it on the background.

That's it.

Yeah, but then at that point, it's like, I'm mostly saying at that point, I'm just going to watch post produce.

Like if I want, like you're just getting a, if you care about, if you're die hard disc golf fan,

you have that you're paying $1299 a month to watch all the disc golf.

So I'm trying to figure out the customer that's like, I want to watch live disc golf,

but only the first round.

And so I'll make the account just to watch the first round live and then I'll watch the rest post.

Probably how this decision was made was they solve the number I'm talking about.

Right.

Oh, we got 10,000 people watching on YouTube.

Let's get them all in.

Like imagine if we could get all of them into DGN and convert on even 10% of 1000.

Yeah, I think that number is going to be so much lower.

I would agree because also you have to factor.

So I just don't get who's watching.

When the first rounds free on YouTube, I end up watching on YouTube a lot of times.

Yeah.

It's just a fun interface.

The chat.

Yeah.

Like I'm a DGN subscriber, DGN Pro tier, not to flex, but I have been for a long time.

DGN.

I always watch the first round on YouTube.

Yeah.

I can.

It's I like the interface.

I just like I like it.

It's easier for me to get on YouTube.

I like having the live chat.

Yeah.

I'm just thinking like if I'm it now, I'm wondering how many of that we'll call them 10,000 people

are me.

Oh, I'm already a DGN subscriber.

I'm going to watch the rest of rounds.

Yeah.

So like how much of that is an inflated number?

Here's the person.

The person that will actually maybe convert is somebody that's looking for a trial of

the DGN platform.

That's maybe the person that would go, okay, I'll get the free account just to watch one

and see if I actually want to commit.

But like I said, like if I'm sitting here in like for if it let's say, let's say I'm

a person who is in no way am I paying $1299 a month.

I'm just not doing it.

So while on earth am I ever what like now for me to I know now, okay.

Because I can't do that.

I can't watch live disc golf.

So now the best way for me to consume disc golf is to watch posts produced.

So why am I watching one round?

If you were watching the first round live anyways, you're probably still watching DGN first

round live.

Like if you were already the exact same person and the exact same boots and you were going

to YouTube to watch it, like it only is inconvenient the first time you just go to DGN.

You type in your email and then you're there.

Yeah.

I guess I don't know.

How many people are watching that YouTube first round and then never like never watch live

after like how many people do just watch it on YouTube because it's convenient.

Like where are those people coming from or how many are just stumbling across it?

How many people are not DGN subscription look like us like that would watch on YouTube

and go it not stumbling across it.

So it's just kind of a random watch, but are legitimately like yes, I watch every

first round live on YouTube and then I switch to post produce that just has to be a

small demographic and that's who they're targeting.

Well, but the other thing you are targeting is, oh, Simon LaZots on feature card and he

tees off at two today, I'm going to watch it.

Yeah.

Like you at least get that pull.

I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know how many let me ask you this question because I don't know the interest to

it.

How many subscribers does DGN lose if they flip it on its head?

Final rounds free on DGN.

Oh, it's like me, maybe, yeah, maybe me.

Like there are some terms I'd be bummed out, but if it's like, if post produce came out

early enough that I could watch and like, I guess when is like the, when is round three,

if it's a four round tournament, when is like the moving day post produce come out coming

out in the AM?

9th midday.

Okay.

So that may be not me, but so many people because, yeah, I mean like that's like asking

how many people watch Sunday golf?

What if they delayed Jomez a week?

So the only way you're watching this preem flight open round one and two is live.

I doesn't matter.

So many people would cancel.

If they could, if they knew they could jump in the final round and get that free so many

people are canceling.

Oh, yeah.

I know.

That's such an easy decision to make.

Like if I wasn't working in disc golf, I would do that in a heartbeat.

Oh, I can save 13 bucks a month and now I can still like, because like when I watch,

like I like watching PGA tour golf, but like for me to get my fix, I really just need

to watch Sunday.

And that gives that does a trick for me.

So as somebody who covers disc golf, I like to see the full product.

But if I wasn't, and I just want to do enjoy watching live disc golf, you could, you could

have jumped in yesterday in that final round and had a grand old time and got a pretty great

picture of what went on the event just watching the final day, because they're going to

recap stuff.

I'm just thinking like they're going to do replays.

If you're die hard enough to be paying for DGN now, well, now if you just want to watch

live disc golf, you got to pay.

Yeah.

So like it's not, you know how to be that die hard?

You just want to be able to watch a lot.

Well, you have to be a die hard disc golf fan.

Know the pro tour exists, want to watch the pro tour and want to watch it live.

Well, that's a pretty die hard.

Yes, there are.

Yes, there are levels.

But I'm saying like I am not like I know of people that are much hardcore disc golf consumers

than me.

Like they're watching every skin match, every single thing.

Like I just am somebody who wants to watch the live product.

And so that's enough for me to stomach the 13 bucks a month.

But like like I said, if I wasn't working in this, yeah, like your boy would be taking

that for that final round free every day of the week.

Don't know.

I was thinking probably like 10% of people, because like I think it would be a lot higher

than that.

I was watching like Terry Miller live coverage back in the day, all four rounds when

it was like, we're watching basically two people play and Terry in the fairway.

And like I was, I would have paid to watch that a lot of life.

I think that you are a very small segment of the DGN subscribers.

I'd be curious.

I mean, there's no way for them to know without doing it.

But I mean, I think that would be a devastating loss of subscribers subscribers.

Yeah, I don't know.

Like the final round is your, that's your product, like that's your, that is your product.

That's the chair.

I'm saying like the viewership on YouTube would be so big, yeah, it would be insane.

That like obviously the, the growth of the coverage, what you can sell advertising for,

like all of that, if you're only losing 10 to 20%, you can make up that easily, in my opinion.

Yeah.

A number I think is, I mean, I, I'm not going to say something dramatic, like, oh, it's

70%.

Like I could see it being a world where it's in the 30 to 40 range.

Well, let me ask you this.

Do you cancel DGN in the off season?

Yeah.

Okay.

I don't.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

By the time I remember I'm already a month in, I got one more month to pay.

I guess that'd be there.

That'd be there.

If people are, if people pay close enough attention, if people pay close enough attention, they

know this number.

I don't, I would imagine the percentage they lose in the off season is a similar percentage

they would use it lose if they went to, yeah, I mean, you always, yeah, you always do

have to factor.

It would be, there are multiple ways to look at this because if, yes, there are so many

people on subscriptions, they don't even know they're subscribed to DGN right now.

It would be, there's two ways to answer this question.

What would actually happen is tougher to figure out.

But if everybody, like if it were somehow put in everybody's face to where they knew that

was happening and you just, if you had to ask every subscriber, you could lose like 60%.

But because that's not how it would work, it would be rolled out and most people don't

even know they're subscribed.

That's why I'm saying like 30 to 40% to me sounds a lot more like that could happen.

But we will never know.

We'll never never do it.

They'll never do it.

They'll never do it.

So much.

It's so much guaranteed revenue for them.

Yeah.

Cause I would, I still love a world where like, you can watch all rounds live for free.

Just not the full broadcast.

The tough thing is though, like, as far as, like sports where you can, like everything

is pay walled these days.

It's pay walled through something else.

Yes.

Like, like, you're not paying, uh, I'm not paying a NCAA basketball subscription to watch

just NCAA.

I'm paying ESPN plus.

If I want to watch ESPN, Paul went up to him saying, it's going up to a billion dollars.

I think it's going to be 30 to $1 a month because they got the NFL stuff.

That's crazy.

But like, if you got DGN onto a peacock or prime, yeah, no, it'd be nice to be able

to pay $13 a month and also get a bunch of other stuff.

Yeah.

Or even ESPN plus.

Like, I think there's a world where that happens and then DGN exists as, okay, I want to,

I'm a pay for DGN only if I want to watch the like, I just want to watch Paul McBeth's

card and nothing else.

Yeah.

And at that point, you have like a camera on each card and you can pick and choose like,

oh, I just want to watch this card.

That car.

But the top thing though is when you talk about sports platforms, like ESPN plus is the

best example.

It's like ESPN plus, especially where it's about to get hiked.

But even right now, it'd be a lot more expensive.

And so for like, you or I, and I wouldn't even feel this way.

But well, with the NFL at it on, I probably would where it's like, yeah, it's more expensive,

but I'm getting things I would already pay for.

We want to watch.

But there's so many disc golf fans that don't give a rip.

What would you have to think of the non-disc golf fans you might pick up or even disc golf

casual fans?

That's a tough.

That the non-disc golf fans you might pick up.

Well, actually, what you really got to look at is, ESPN plus would just be paying you

for your rights.

So DGN wouldn't give two rips at that point as far as like what's, who cares what our

viewership is?

Because it's like, we got to check for me.

The live live stream, the live stream platform growing the sport, I think is a dangerous line

because it's like ESPN plus, plus isn't growing women's field hockey.

Like, I mean, you go on a ESPN plus these days, every single thing in the universe is

on there.

And so like, people wouldn't even like give two glances at it probably.

It would probably be so far, Barry, that you'd have to search for it.

So I don't really think that it's a, I mean, yes, it could tangibly grow it.

But I think it being free, I think more free on YouTube would be the best thing possible

for it.

Correct.

Growth wise.

But I think more people would watch if disc golf network was just on ESPN plus, I think

they would get more concurrent viewers than disc golf network just being on disc golf

network.

If it costs more, if you took, if you just took all their subscribers, they have currently

moved them over.

No.

Yes.

Well, because I have both.

And how, like, there's a decent, there'd be a decent percentage of people that have

both.

It's about to be like 30 bucks a month starting next year.

Yeah.

But how many people are going to say, I got to choose between ESPN plus and disc golf

network and their canceling disc golf network?

Who knows?

I don't, they're not in this, they're going to be the same price point, though.

I'm saying I have both.

There's a lot of people like me are there.

I would imagine how many ESPN plus is not like, it's not something a ton of people.

If you want, like, if you, like, the reason I have it, I want to watch Liberty basketball.

Right.

And that's what I was saying.

If you are a fan of a local college team, that's the best reason to, but a lot of people

are.

ESPN plus a whole lot are all that are the disc golf live viewers.

I don't know the answer, but I don't imagine live viewers are more likely to be live sports

watchers.

We've no light.

Right.

But like, like, if you're a live sports watcher, you're more likely to have ESPN plus than

if you're not.

But how many people like, we are very niche in the sense that we want to watch our slightly

niche local university sports games.

That's not that niche.

Within the disc golf live viewer demographic, I'd say it's a really small percentage.

I don't know.

The live viewer.

If you said that Jim as demographic, I would agree.

I would fully agree because you're not, because I think, I think that the jump to watch,

want to watch live disc golf more than likely, you're more likely to be a live sports fan

or sports fan in general.

If you want to watch live disc golf, I mean, yeah, yes, that's a true statement.

But we've already niche down there, but I do think that that's not the, I don't think

the majority, but you have the majority of live disc golf viewers are not live sports

fans.

They've just have come around to it now.

But I'm saying also you have to factor now how many people are like, well, I could pay

for ESPN plus and get access to all this PGA torso and all that, or I could pay for

disc golf network.

Well, I'll just watch it on Jim as why the frick would I pay for disc golf network?

I'd rather watch ESPN plus and like watch golf on the weekend.

Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know how big that segment is.

I don't know.

But I think, I don't know.

I think that's the long term play at some point is they get on a prime video ESPN plus

and they're never going to go to YouTube.

Unfortunately, once they got off YouTube, if they would have stayed on YouTube, I think

they could have been fine, but getting off YouTube going to DGN is never going back to

YouTube.

The secondary thing that we saw the Powerball did is the Powerball Cup purse has been

announced.

The projected total purse is 350,000 and the winner of both MPO and FPO both will receive

$50,000, $15,000 increase over the previous biggest we've seen.

How much did the purse go up total?

Was it $2.75?

Let's look, we can look at last year because I'm just like trying to do the mathy math

on like what are the other positions paying out?

The pro tour championship last year was $262.

Oh, okay.

So it went up 100,000.

Okay.

So everybody's getting paid.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It went up by 100 grand total and the field is going to be the same size.

Turns out Powerball dumped a lot of money in it.

Yeah.

That's what we were always wondering.

We were saying.

That's pretty tangible.

They're going to see it.

Yeah.

I mean, for them to go ahead and say 100 grand more, you got to assume most of that came

from Powerball.

Yeah.

You would say a lot of money and with the fact that they're also doing these other things

with Powerball, I think it's safe to say that Powerball might have spent 250K a year.

It's a good deal.

So I'm like that.

I'm excited for the pros.

I'm excited to watch somebody pay for, play for 50K.

I will say.

That's exciting.

Like, we don't know what how much Powerball put into the tour.

So we will never be able to know, is there investment worth it or not?

But the little ad read of like the Powerball drawing is the next drawings Monday, whatever

in the purse is 260 some million.

Some of those people watching live coverage are buying Powerball.

I got eight tickets.

No.

Some people are walking out.

I mean, because I would, I have no idea what the Powerball drawing was.

Like, I had no idea.

I mean, look, I'm talking about it right now.

I had no idea what the 200 and some million, I've never bought a Powerball ticket.

I only know because there's that billboard, like right near where our warehouse is the last

once a week.

So I always see the number up there.

I don't know when it is.

Well, like, I mean, they told us next draw on the coverage.

They did say next drawing.

I guess they just draw every day with that one.

Yeah.

Next drawings, whatever date.

Yeah.

Well, and also it was only like what was a 280 million?

Because I think it's up 260 something.

I think that thing gets up.

It gets up.

Well, it's a billion at some point.

Yeah.

So like, they will convert on that.

Now, I don't know how they're going to track it.

I have no idea.

People are, what's funny is, and a lot of, I saw people online being very mad about all

of the Powerball integration and them talking about it.

But it's like, I didn't really, it did not bug me.

No, I didn't even, I didn't notice it beyond, you're normal.

I got to be honest.

And like, and if they're, if the person up to 350K, put the logo on the fricking hats of

all the players for all like, I got to be honest, like, DGN, like, I'll give my like

coverage review.

I think the coverage has gotten so solid.

Like people don't realize, with the budget, they are operating under and the kind of set

up they have to use.

Like the live product is so much better than what it could be.

Like it's so solid.

There are mistakes here and there commentary.

I thought was totally fine.

I think Perkins is a little bit bland.

No, Perkins isn't my favorite, but they didn't take anything away.

There was in a moment that the cover, the commentary pulled me out.

And Doss, I think Doss, I actually was pretty dialed.

Like he wasn't ridiculous and then, and sex is always one of my favorites.

But coverage, I would say they're the biggest issue I have with coverage is sometimes they're

switching.

Just isn't great.

And a lot of times it's because they're switching to a camera that doesn't realize he's

getting switched to.

And I wonder if they're, I think their comms is just delayed because I know their comm system,

obviously, like they're not on site.

So like I think when that switcher is calling out, they're not getting it until, it's like

I think like the follow camera is just kind of know where they're supposed to be and

know like I better stay on the shot because I'm going to get switched to.

And sometimes when they go to like a secondary shot, and then all of a sudden they'll just

start running away.

And it's like they did not know they were, or they didn't know they were still live.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because I mean, it's so enjoyable like I got covered is totally a fun time to watch.

It's worlds better than three, four years ago.

Like it is.

I think it's totally.

It's you watch the full storyline play out.

You now get chase even third or fourth card coverage.

Like if someone's getting hot, there's going to be a camera on them.

It's good replay.

And like that's something that just used to not be true.

Yeah.

Solid.

It was solid.

And yeah, I really enjoy it.

I think that they do a phenomenal job.

And I did not notice.

I saw people like chirping about it of like it power ball being on the caddy bibs and

whatever.

I'm like, what are we paying it?

Like who's paying attention to that?

Yeah.

But it's such a, it's the, there's a group of people that I really don't like power ball.

And I'm like, do I think power ball is like the super heroes of the universe?

No.

Like it's a lottery.

I get it.

But also like, I don't really care.

And also like I said, like, so like that's right.

I think a lot of those people I think are just looking to complain because they're really

don't like the power ball.