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Mr. Randy Wiggs and Culver City.

Well, John, we have our first candidate to drop out of the governor's race since the letter was sent out to all the low polling candidates to get out.

Ian Calderon, formerly of the assembly, has said he's not running.

He's endorsing Eric Swahwell, and that has lowered the chances of an all Republican top two from 27% to 26%.

Well, because Ian Calderon had less than 1% in all the polls that I saw.

Yep.

Ian Calderon, of course, from a family, a long time California political family where his father and his uncles were in the state legislature for many years.

In fact, his uncles were both put in prison.

Have they been let out yet?

I think so, but I think that dynasty might be ending in California.

No, I think his stepmom is now in the assembly, too.

She was the one that was the executives for seven California Edison before she went into the assembly.

Let's all stop voting for Calderons and Sarvantes and Garcettis.

And how about the Browns, too, and the haunts add them to the list, even Janice, even Janice.

That's your final warning.

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Well, as Randy said, the Democrats in California are starting to panic that they could be looking at a November ballot

that has two Republicans on it for governor and no Democrats.

We know that the chair of the party, Rusty Hicks, put out a letter urging all of the low-performing Democrats,

AKA their minority candidates, to drop out of the race.

Most of them went on social media yesterday in response and posted videos of them turning their paperwork in,

meaning they told their party chairman to go pound sand.

Ian Calderon, of course, is one of the exceptions.

Gavin Newsom, who hadn't been paying attention to the governor's race, is now starting to understand that if two Republicans make the November ballot to replace him,

that's probably not a good look for him as he runs for president.

So now, Randy, Gavin Newsom is starting to get involved, too.

It's been quite the evolution in just the last three days because it was three days ago at a press conference where Gavin said

he didn't even know who was running and he wasn't following it.

And now he is all over it because the alarm has been sounded.

For more, here is KCRA 3 and Ashley Zavala.

Well, is it democracy in action or a divided Democratic party?

The lower polling candidates are blatantly rejecting that request from California's Democratic Party chairman.

As we reported yesterday, the chairman Rusty Hicks and an open letter told candidates.

I like how so many of the candidates went after Rusty Hicks and the California Democratic Party.

But Antonio Viragos and Javier Bakaria just started going after each other.

Well, they don't like each other because don't forget when Antonio ran for mayor the first time, Basera also ran and finished dead last.

But Antonio was worried that with Basera in the race, that would split the Latino vote up and he wouldn't make the runoff.

So they tried to cut a deal between the two of them where Antonio at one point was willing to drop out of the race for mayor

if Basera would resign from Congress or agree not to run for reelection and then Antonio would just take that congressional seat.

Basera said, no, I want both.

And after he said that, it's been a Sicilian thing between those two ever since.

But if they don't have a viable path, don't file the paperwork to run.

And Governor Gavin Newsom agrees with him.

Those lower polling candidates defying party leaders today, former state controller Betty Yee, a former health and human services secretary Javier Basera,

San Jose mayor Matt Mayhan and former LA mayor Antonio Viragos officially filed to run today.

They all posted about it on social media.

State Superintendent of public construction who you see on your screen, Tony Thurmond, he filed yesterday.

Thurmond accused party leaders of only wanting all white candidates to stay in the race.

I mean, that's pretty much what they were saying.

Yeah, for a party that's obsessed with race, that's not a good look.

The only candidates that they think are worthy of this point are Swalwell, Steyer, and this lady.

Get out of my f***ing shop.

Imagine being willing, willing the short circuit your own career to make room for Katie Porter.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

The candidates he's referring to are the front runners congressman Eric Swalwell, billionaire Tom Steyer and former congresswoman Katie Porter.

But there is a concern that because there are so many Democrats in this race and because of California's system that allows the top two candidates and the primary election to advance.

You know, who was the most notable person today to blast their top two primary system was Lorraine Gonzales.

Oh, yeah.

No, because it costs her a fortune because frequently they'll have Democrat on Democrat races in November.

Whereas if it was a closed primary system, they wouldn't have to spend any money on those races.

But there is a concern that because there are so many Democrats in this race and because of California's system that allows the top two candidates and the primary election to advance.

Regardless of political party, Democrats could be locked out of the governor's race in November and voters would have to choose between two Republicans.

Current governor, Gavin Newsom.

By the way, if that happens and it's not likely, but it's possible and if that happens, how ugly is that race going to be?

Oh, between Hilton and Bianco.

Yeah.

Oh, that's going to get ugly on day one.

Current governor, Gavin Newsom signaling he might step in.

And I don't really protest it because there's just, I mean, what is this crowd just applaud anything?

He says he didn't even finish a thought there.

He's not a book tour, isn't he?

Yes.

I believe this was in the middle of his an evening with Gavin Newsom with the pod save America guys in Los Angeles.

And I don't really protest it because there's just, I mean, imagine that's your date night.

Hey, we're going to see an evening with Gavin Newsom.

If that's your date night, I would hope you're going to be on the app the next morning.

At this moment in history, with all the peril and promise that marks this moment, you know, whatever venues he was playing at,

they don't even need a two drink minimum because nobody is sitting and listening to him sober.

Who is paying money for those tickets?

Good question.

At this moment in history, with all the peril and promise that marks this moment for California,

the most untrumped state in America, after a Republican Trump running.

What does that tell you about the candidates that are running?

The voters don't like any of them.

I mean, some of them have been in the race for a year.

Some of them have been in the race for two years.

Yes, this electorate is checked out, but how checked out?

Well, part of what's going on is that Gavin has occupied all of the oxygen in the room.

I mean, don't forget, during COVID, he ruled us like a king.

And he, of course, enjoyed that.

And he wrecked public education.

He wrecked a lot of people's psychological health.

He certainly wrecked a lot of businesses.

But what he also did was render the legislature to be useless

and render all of the other statewide constitutional officers to be useless, too.

Well, if all of you were useless, then why should anyone bother to pay attention to you?

There is no margin for error.

This is a moment for real self-reflection.

Is it about you?

Is it about me?

Or is it about all of us?

And the stakes couldn't be higher.

All I'll say is, choose wisely.

I think he meant that to sound like a threat.

But if he's trying to threaten someone, he should sound more like Katie Porter in that interview with Julie Wads,

where she sound like a mafia boss.

Oh, I know the one you're talking about.

Let's see.

Katie.

Oh, there's so many Katie drops.

All right.

Katie Porter.

This one.

I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you.

And I don't want this all on camera.

If you're trying to threaten someone, sound like that.

And so all I'll say is, choose wisely.

I think that microphone went halfway down as a suffocates when he said that.

No, the governor also said yesterday, quote, I'm not putting my thumb on anything at the moment,

but there may be a moment in the next few months.

End quote.

But candidates, again.

You can call Tony first about Harvey.

Who you calling first?

Well, Swalwell is the sleasiest one.

So if birds of a feather flock together, my guess would be that's where he'll end up.

Oh, I'm in.

Who's he going to call to drop out?

Oh, oh, yes.

Well, anyone who's pulling at the bottom.

So all the minorities.

The call with Antonio is going to hurt a lot because Antonio already ran and lost against

Gavin Newsom in 2018 and then Antonio Viragosa had an opportunity to run in the recall

when he looked like father time during COVID and decided against it for a plum position

as the infrastructures are and that didn't go well either.

Do you think Gavin will actually call them and ask them to get out of the race because

think about it.

If they say no, that makes Gavin look weak.

If you're Gavin, you cannot allow them to tell you to go to hell.

Well, you have to offer them something like already you're seeing Ian Calderon is now

going to be part of the Swalwell campaign.

So what Gavin asked to do is says, hey, you have no path.

We need you to step aside, but I'll put you in the administration when I run for president.

Okay.

But that's not necessarily a guaranteed thing.

I think he's definitely going to be a candidate, but it's highly unlikely that he's going

to be the Democratic nominee.

And if he's the Democratic nominee, he's got a 50-50 shot of actually winning the election.

So is he really giving you something if he promises you a job in the administration?

Maybe his governor, he can put you on some board or commission or something.

But if you're Antonio Villarigosa, are you going to hold out for a seat on the State

Blueberry Commission?

But candidates, again, as we saw today pushing back ultimately wanting the people to decide.

Well, I mean, you know, it says something that these two Republicans right now are in

the latest ball we saw, number one and number three.

I know it's in within margin of error for all top five candidates, but people are thinking

about a change.

But of all that going on, I mean, what are the chances of winding up with two Republicans?

Right.

And the chances have actually significantly jumped over the last week as of just a few

minutes ago, according to election expert Paul Mitchell's modeling data tool called

Boy, Paul Mitchell is getting all kinds of coverage and makes a hell of a shampoo.

It's funny.

He put this thing together as a lark, this simulator with the top two candidates, with

the graphics from the movie twins.

And it is in the top of every newscast in the state.

Well, sometimes you put something together that you don't anticipate is going to be popular

and low and behold, it becomes popular.

I mean, don't forget, Viagra was originally a heart medication.

Paul Mitchell's modeling data tool called top two twins, the chances of two Republicans

being on the ballot in November are at 28 percent.

And just a few weeks ago, it was at 12 percent.

Okay.

And you say to yourself, all right, well, that's a little bit less than one in three.

But when you look at all the other permutations, it is the most likely scenario at this point.

Because all of the other possibilities are less than that.

The two Republicans, again, pulling relatively well right now, a Riverside chair of Chad

Bianco and former Fox News commentator Steve Hilton.

This is a pretty wild situation in Governor Gavin Newsome even said, you know, I understand

why Jerry Brown kind of stayed out of everything.

Yeah, but now things have changed because it's going to look real bad if Gavin's successor

is a Republican.

Well, and how about this?

We talked about how bad it would look for Gavin if he calls these candidates, tells

them to get out.

And they say, no, how about if Gavin publicly goes against these candidates and two Republicans

still end up on the November ballot?

That'll look worse.

Well, there's a lot of scenarios here that produce real bad looks for Gavin Newsome.

And part of the problem, part of the problem for Democrats right now is that he is so disengaged

with California because if he found a candidate early on who said, okay, this is my successor.

He's the apple of my eye.

She's the one I want to lead the state that a lot of these people would have never filed.

They would have not raised money, put together websites, generated list of endorsements.

They wouldn't have even done that.

They would be running for something else.

But because he is so checked out and there's such a vacuum of leadership in the state right

now, everyone decided, okay, if no one's going to be anointed, why not me?

So if you're looking for someone to blame and you're a Democrat for the mess that the

Democrats are in right now, you can blame Gavin.

On what planet does a candidate not care who replaces them?

Down to dog catcher, everyone wants to pick their replacement.

I mean, don't forget, go back to 2008 or 2016, rather, when Obama was termed out as

president and the seat was going to be open.

And he had to decide who he wanted to replace him.

And he told Joe to stand down that he was going to get behind Hillary.

And the moment he let everyone know that he wanted Hillary, the other candidates, the candidates

who would pose the biggest threat to her just decided to take a pass.

And Biden decided to drop out of the race in 2024, what did he do?

He immediately endorsed Kamala Harris.

Well, if you're Gavin Newsom or Pritzker or Jennifer Gretchen Whitmer, that meant you

had no chance.

So don't even bother.

Gavin never did that here.

And that's why we have this wide open race with this wide open field.

If he was engaged in California, this wouldn't be happening.

As a Republican, I'm tickled.

Because for the first time in a long time, we have a chance at getting a Republican governor

and fixing some of the things that are broken in this state.

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Oh, peanut. He actually might take him up on that. All right, coming up next, many of

you have long suspected that the government wanted to clear out Pacific policies and

Altadena. So other people could own that land. Well, some of those fears are coming to

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where music meets the soul. Good luck dialing. We get so many emails from listeners who are

of the belief that the incompetence that we saw from the city, the county, the state

when it comes to fighting the fires that destroyed Pacific Palisades and Altadena, that that

wasn't just a mistake that they let those parts of town burn down on purpose, because

they want to get rid of the people who are currently there and replace them with high

density homes, homes that will bring in a lot more tax revenue. Certainly developers have

their eye on those very important pieces of Southern California real estate and that

there was some kind of grand conspiracy going on between the developers and the government

to get these people out. I don't know if I buy into that. I think government and competence

is usually what happens when the government does something that pisses itself. However,

when you look specifically at what's going on in Altadena right now, a case could be made

that the people who used to live there are being kicked out one by one and they're being

replaced by corporations who are buying the land and presumably making a killing off

of it. The latest numbers show one fourth of all homes sold in the Altadena Burnscar area

were sold to private equity for more on this and what's being done about it. Here is KTLA.

Tonight residents of fire ravaged Altadena say they are facing a new threat. Corporate

investors who are buying up entire neighborhoods in the Burn areas. Long time residents fear

the very soul of their treasured community will be lost to private equity firms looking

to cash in on a natural disaster. KTLA's Mary Beth McTators live in Altadena where residents

are asking why state and local legislators are allowing this to happen. Mary Beth.

We can share Senator Adam Schiff introduce state new bill that would limit the number

of properties that large corporations can buy up after a natural disaster. However, we

spoke to the co-founder of Altadena not for sale and she tells us that his bill will

not help them here. That's right. And you know what's so funny about this is that we live

at a state where if you pay attention to what goes on at Sacramento in Sacramento or at

LA City Hall or at the board of supervisors everything's about diversity. They see racism

everywhere they turn. And to them doing good things for minorities is just emptying out

the prisons and if you don't support that then well you're a bad person in a racist.

Yet you have what's going on in Altadena which is a part of unincorporated Los Angeles

County where you have a lot of black homeowners and their homes burned down in the fire in

part because we didn't do what we were supposed to do to protect them from a fire. And now they're

all being forced out and corporations are taking over and they're just allowing it to happen.

How about standing up for these people? How about doing something for them? And the opposite is

what's going on. Instead of bending over backwards to help these people who have been through to

hell and back they just keep finding ways to disrespect them and to make their lives more miserable.

This sign says what many longtime residents of Altadena and Pacific Palisades too are feeling

about large corporations buying up the burn lots in the wake of the deadly and destructive fires.

They're concerned what it will do to their communities. After the fire a lot of investors have come

in and they've taken advantage of the situation and what we feel is taking advantage and they bought

at least in the whole in those past year in Altadena we're tracking Altadena.

Eight companies have bought 25% of what's been sold. Oh boy.

That's not good if you live there. Well and you gotta remember it's not like

they're forcefully buying these properties. You probably have a lot of people that especially

a year, a year and a half out thought that they were going to rebuild but they still haven't

been made whole by their insurance company. The permitting process has been a mess. The state

is nowhere to be seen. So they really have no choice but to sell and move on and that's what's

happening. Yes. And you look at these corporations. They build homes professionally. So they know

the ins and the outs of how this works. They know the people who do the inspections. They know

the people in government. They have a team of lawyers on the payroll. They're equipped to rebuild

in difficult circumstances. If you're a long time homeowner, you have a job. You have other

obligations. You may not be an expert on how to do something like this and when the state won't

do anything for you and the local government won't do anything for you. They push you into a

corner and tell you cry uncle. Melissa Michelson is the co-founder of the Altadena not-for-sale movement.

People of Altadena want to make sure that it remains a bedroom community and not a, you know,

a corporate-owned, you know, for-profit landscape. Senator Adam Schiff announced he's

introducing legislation to crack down on giant corporate investors snatching up properties

following natural disasters. Schiff's bill would specifically prohibit institutional investors

that own 75 or more single-family homes from making any offers to purchase any properties

for six months in the affected area after a major disaster. Well, that's not going to do a damn thing.

Here we are a year out and this is when the sales are happening. No, he's not trying to stop

this from happening. He just doesn't want to take the heat because people are upset that it's

happening. We've been scratching our heads about what, what, what is this all about? It's called

lip service. He doesn't intend to actually do anything. Nope. Who exactly is this serving? Because

first of all, you know, the companies that have been buying up Altadena in the wake of the fire

are not necessarily companies that own 75 single-family homes or even properties. And because of

the timeline, if the bill were to become a law, it would reportedly not even apply to Altadena

or Pacific palisades, only future disaster zones. No, nobody not our senators, not our members of

Congress, not members of the legislature or the governor or the local electeds at the L.A.

County Board of Supervisors have the back of these homeowners. Nope. And because they've been

displaced, many of them don't live in the city anymore. If it's you're talking about Pacific

palisades, many in Altadena don't live in L.A. County anymore. And a lot of them have just gotten

out of the state altogether because they just can't take it anymore. And I reached out to Senator

Adam Schiff's office about this new bill, but have yet to hear back for now reporting live

here in Pasadena, Mary Beth McDade. So there you go. 25% of all homes sold in Altadena are being

sold to private equity and chances are they're not looking to rebuild single-family homes.

Nope. I think they're going to put in high-density housing and they're going to expect all of those

residents to ride their murder trains, which is exactly what Sacramento wants. 800-222-5222 is a

telephone number 1-800-222-5222. If you'd like to email the show, you can do so at johnny.don't

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listen. I wonder if it's because your name is john. Well, his question is guys, when are you going

to have Spencer Pratt on the show? We're trying. We reached out to them some time ago, even before

he was a declared candidate for mayor and have been reaching out periodically since then. And

we're going back and forth with them. They asked for some information. We gave them the information

that they asked for and we're trying to nail down a date and a time to have them on because

he's running for mayor of Los Angeles and this show is a show that covers California state and

local issues, particularly those that impact Los Angeles. So it would be a natural fit for him to

come on and talk to this audience. Everyone listening to this show is interested in California and

Los Angeles and everything that's going on in those elections. So hopefully we'll be able to

have him on soon. We're doing the same thing by the way with Matt Mayhan and some others. It's

just very difficult at times to get candidates on because they're so apprehensive about going

into an environment where there's not a script. You go on a radio show. I can't provide you with

a list of questions because I don't have them. You know the topics that we discuss on this program.

So if one of these individuals were to come on the show, I think everyone in this audience

would have some kind of idea as to what kinds of questions that we would ask. But you know these

campaigns, they have their own process of determining what shows they go on and when they go on and

those sorts of things and we're asking the people that we think that you would have an interest in.

So hopefully at some point we'll be able to get them on because I know that many of you are

interested in hearing what they have to say. All right, let's go to Cardi and Lancaster. Cardi,

hello. Hey John, hey Randy. How you guys doing? Good. I love your show and I call trying to call

you guys every day and bother with my two cents. So doesn't this sound like Hawaii land grab

reminiscent of that with all these private equity firms buying all this land? I mean it's

everywhere. Anywhere where there's a great view, it seems that these big companies just come out

and just buy all this land up. What do you think? Yeah, I think that's exactly what's going on here.

The same thing that happened in Lahaina is now going on in Los Angeles and politically speaking,

both of these areas are disenfranchised because when you're talking about Al-Tadina,

you're talking about unincorporated Los Angeles County. LA County is the largest county in the

country. They're a tiny, tiny, tiny speck of LA County when you look at the overall population.

So if all of them get really upset and they start kicking their feet in the grand scheme of things,

it doesn't really matter. They're not going to sway an election. They're not going to cost someone

their office. They're not going to prevent a politician from moving up the food chain.

So if the politicians for whatever reason have compassion for them and want to help them out,

they can, but the threat that would otherwise exist doesn't, isn't there. The same thing is true

with the Pacific Palisades. They're less than I think half a percent of the overall population

of the city of Los Angeles and many of them aren't even in the city of LA anymore.

So if all of them vote the same way, they can't kick Karen Bass out of office. They can't impact

an election that way. And so they just get ignored. Well, you mentioned how they spout racism,

racism. Okay, well, you're kicking out black families that have been in Al Tadina for many,

many, many years. I hope to God that these people see it and quit with the blue party.

Yeah. Thank you. Well, all we hear about is about equity and about inclusion and about how racist

society is and all of those sorts of things. Well, if you believe society is racist and you

believe in equity and inclusion and all those things, do something for these people

because you have black homeowners in Al Tadina, largely black homeowners, not all of them,

but that there are a significant number of black homeowners in Al Tadina who have been displaced

and they're being mistreated on a daily basis. And they're being forced out of their homes

as you correctly pointed out that in some of those cases have been in the family for 100 years.

And it's criminal what's going on to those people. And Adam Schiff is willing to give them

lip service and that's it. And guess what? That's not good enough. All right, here was an update on

the arsonist who started the fire that turned into the fire that burned down Pacific Palisades,

Mr. Randy Wayne. So here's the issue that deposition came out of the on the line LAFD

firefighters that said, hey, we told management that there was still smoldering, there was still

embers, there was still hotness. We said, this is not the time to roll up. And now the attorney

for the guy who started the lockman fire says based on that testimony, he thinks the charges

should be dropped against the charges concerning the Palisades fire because was it really him or

was it the negligence of the city, the county and the state. For more on this, here's CBS LA.

And new here at six, the attorney for the man accused of starting the lockman fire, which would

later turn into the devastating Palisades fire, wants the case dropped. And that's all because

of new testimony given by an LAFD firefighter CBS LA assignment editor Mike Rogers of the

desk. Now Mike, you spoke with Jonathan Rendonette's attorney on the phone today. So what's he

telling you? He's telling me that he has asked federal prosecutors to dismiss the case against

his client. And it comes after those revelations made by the LAFD fire fighter in a deposition

in a civil case. That's Jonathan Rendonette. Remember Jonathan Rendonette. Okay, that's the

civil case that the county and the city and the state tried to get thrown out of court didn't happen.

In a civil case, that's Jonathan Rendonette. Remember Jonathan Rendonette is accused of

starting the lockman fire. That is the firefighter who gave deposition that said the lockman

fire was not a holdo. I'm sorry, the Palisades fire was not a holdover fire of the lockman

fire, but instead was not properly extinguished. You'll remember in the civil case, which we have

been telling you about that firefighter said that he saw signs of fire and ash still smoldering

at the lockman fire days before the Palisades fire would start. Now the defense attorney for Jonathan

Rendonette told me on the phone today, he has sent a letter in an email to federal prosecutors

saying, look, you didn't have that information when you filed the charges against my client,

but now that you do, you should drop the case. It would look really bad for the feds to

drop the case against this guy, but I don't know how they win in a jury trial. No. If someone

like me thinks you're going to have to drop the case, then there's no way you're going to get

an L.A. jury to convict them. I had moments ago, I had a chance to speak with a former federal

prosecutor about the difficulties that this convoluted case now brings to the federal government.

What the defense will argue is that you have a defendant who on New Year's Eve dropped off

Uber passengers and started a fire, but that fire wasn't properly put out. So now you have

firefighters that bear their responsibility. It really breaks the chain of causation because

any negligence was on them. I think what the US Attorney's Office and the government will argue

is, well, if you start an arson, you can't rely on firefighters to necessarily put it out.

Well, we should be able to. Otherwise, what are we paying for?

Well, the one aspect I disagree with is it's not the fault of the on-the-line firefighters.

It's the fault of the political leadership who wouldn't allow them to do their job.

Totally right about that. So that's what's going on as the attorney for the arsonist in the

policy. It says, I don't think you can charge this guy because of all the negligence that happened.