Gaza Survivor Shares His Story — The Truth the Media Isn’t Telling

Are you able to leave Gaza if you wanted to?

Could you just pick up and leave and cross the border?

What would happen if you tried to do that?

What would happen is I would get shot and killed.

What you're about to see is eyewitness testimony

from a Palestinian who has grown up in Gaza,

is currently in Gaza, and lived through the entire war in Gaza.

He saw my interview with Jank Yuger,

and he reached out to me and wanted to do an interview

to talk about his own personal experiences

and offer his eyewitness testimony

to the horrible tragedies of what has unfolded in Gaza

over the last two years.

You may not want to have children around for this episode.

So Mohammed, welcome to the show.

How are you?

Thank you for having me.

I'm very glad to be here.

It's such an honor.

I've wanted to talk to somebody who is in Gaza,

who's right there at the ground level, who has been seeing

firsthand the situation that has been taking place there,

over the course of several years now,

and really even before that.

So I was really honored and happy that you reached out to me

to have this conversation.

So once again, thank you so much for that.

I want to go ahead and just dive right in

because we got a lot of ground to cover here.

Let's maybe just start with this.

Tell me a little bit about yourself,

your family background, your faith, stuff like that.

So my name is Mohammed Abdoro.

I am a Palestinian from Gaza.

I was born and raised, grew up in Gaza.

My dad is a citizen, which means that he's originally from Gaza.

And my mom is from a family that descendants that were

from Haifa.

So she's from a family of refugees.

So I have a citizen, I have a refugee.

I am technically a student right now.

And I'm measuring in English translation.

Still awaiting the results of the last final exams.

And then I will officially graduate.

I am a Muslim.

That you can tell by my name.

Yeah, that's me.

And so you've been living in Gaza your entire life?

Correct.

What's that like?

Oh, it's a lot.

In Gaza, we used to have this, we call them

wars or rounds of escalation like in 28, 29,

the Israeli aggression against Gaza, 2012.

Israeli aggression lasted for a week, 2014, Israeli aggression.

And there were also rounds of escalation in which Israel

would attack and bomb Gaza.

One of them, one of these rounds of escalation, was in 2018.

There was an Israeli force, it was a special force.

Undercover went to a southern Gaza strip in Hanyunis.

I think they were trying to install spying equipment.

But they were discovered.

And there was a shootout.

And the leader of that force was killed.

But they managed to escape.

Israeli forces, air force started bombing Gaza,

like dozens of air strikes.

That led to three days of escalation of them bombing Gaza

and our home, the building that we used to live in was bombed.

So yeah, it's a lot.

So you've been displaced from your home because of that?

Yes, in 2018.

Wow, so even before the war.

And right now, your end Gaza currently, right?

Yes.

I live in the western part of Gaza City.

OK.

How affected by the war has your part been?

Fundamentally changed.

I was completely a different person before the genocide.

Right now, the thing that occupies my mind

is talking to anyone abroad and telling them

talking about the evilness and vileness of Zionism.

Before the genocide, I was a normal person.

I was a student.

I would think about my future.

What I'm going to do after I graduate?

So I had this idea in my mind that Israel was bad.

I knew that.

But I didn't think much about it.

So now, after everything, all the atrocities and heinous crimes

they have committed, this is the thing

that occupies my mind, talking to other people

like yourself about the genocide, the unprecedented

savagery that they have shown to the world.

It's a lot.

I suspect that you've seen a lot of that personally.

I did.

I have seen horrific scenes.

For example, during the temporary ceasefire,

the first one in November, 2023, it lasted for a week.

Now, like I said, we lived in Western Gaza City

and they were occupying the part that we were living in.

So we had to flee.

We were staying with relatives of ours.

And Israeli forces retreated from that area

that we were living in.

So we went back.

And I have seen a body on the street.

It was a martyr.

On the street he was shot and killed.

And he had been dead for some time.

And he was covered in a blanket.

It was a grotesque.

I have also seen or not seen.

It was my neighbor's.

I need to, sorry, I need to organize my thoughts.

It was during the Israeli raid in March, mid-March, 2024.

So we were surrounded.

They attacked.

They raided the hospital.

They attacked it like in the middle of the night.

All of a sudden there were shootings and bullets

and explosions everywhere.

It was like 2.30 a.m.

And we were stuck.

Because Israeli tanks were in the streets driving around.

And Israeli soldiers were breaking into homes

and killing Palestinians or abducting them.

And we were very afraid.

We didn't want to be abducted and sent to an Israeli doctor.

You witnessed this personally, right?

You witnessed this personally.

It was absolutely scary.

Just Israeli tanks in the streets.

And I am in the apartment with my family.

We don't know what to do.

We stayed for a week.

And then we decided to flee.

There was the building that we're living in.

It hosts like 10 families or 10 apartments.

But all of them have fled to the south at the beginning

of the genocide, except us and another family.

And so we decided to flee with the other family.

Because we were surrounded.

Like I said, and my brother, my little brother,

he held a stick with a white shirt on it,

like a sign of surrendering.

And we started running.

Running towards the north, a shelter refugee camp.

I, oh my god.

I have seen a tank.

Like, its terrain was pointed towards us.

It was like 15 meters away from us.

We kept running.

And while I was running, I saw the body of a Palestinian

child.

He was like 15.

He was just a lifeless body on the street.

He was just staring into the sky.

And we just kept running.

You can't do anything when you see something like this.

Because if you stop, you'll get shot.

That's one thing.

Now we managed to flee.

We were safe.

We got away from that area.

They were occupied.

But neighbors of ours tried to flee the same day,

like ours after us.

There was a family that were living in the building next to us

who was a family of five.

A dad, a mom, two twins, the same age as I am, guys,

and their little sister.

And they were shot.

We were lucky.

We didn't get shot.

They were shot.

The dad and the mom, and one of the twins, were killed.

The other twin and his sister survived.

Other neighbors of ours,

also tried to flee.

They have two children in elementary school.

They were shot and killed.

His dad, they were like two boys, two different families,

two children.

He had a poster of his child and the front of his home

and marking the date in which he was martyred.

Another example is when we were fleeing,

like there was a lot of bombing in Central Galactic City.

We were sheltering with a family with relatives of ours.

And we went back.

We decided to go back to the place we were living in the apartment.

And we passed by a Shifa hospital.

And I saw a woman standing next to a child.

And there was a lot of flies.

Like they were in the yard of the hospital.

And he was, I don't think he was sleeping or unconscious.

There was a lot of blood on him and a lot of flies.

Like it was horrific.

It was a grotesque scene.

And this woman, who's probably his mom,

is standing next to him and can't do anything.

I saw her.

This is just a drop in the pocket.

It's overwhelming.

Yeah, it's horrible.

If you don't mind me asking, have any of your family members

been impacted by this war?

I actually have lost some family members in this way.

My grandma was killed.

Some of my cousins were killed.

We were all impacted.

Everyone in Gaza.

Literally everyone was impacted.

Yeah, one of my cousins was injured.

She, there were, she had her injury was like less than others.

Like other cousins who were killed.

Like they were killed, but she was injured.

And her leg was burned.

Like above the second degree, I don't know what exactly.

She's going through.

But she's recovering.

She's a girl.

She's like 12 years old.

She's my cousin and she's recovering now.

She wasn't able to walk.

She used to have a wheelchair.

But now she's, she's, she's starting to walk.

Be able to walk without assistance.

So, yeah.

We often hear that, well, the reason why civilians are being

hit is because it says hiding behind civilians.

In your own experience with your own eyewitness testimony,

is that true or not?

No, it's not.

The ones who are using human shields are the Israeli terrorist

forces.

There was a lot of reports.

I mean, it's true of the abducting Palestinians.

And using them as human shields,

they would abduct them and tie them with a rope, a long rope,

and attach now with the Palestinian or the human shield

is helpless.

Like, can't do anything.

If you try to disobey these terrorists,

they would shoot them and kill them.

And so they would tie the human shield,

the Palestinian with a long rope, and put a camera on his chest

so that the soldiers have a live feed of what the Palestinian

sees.

And they would send those Palestinians, those human shields,

to areas, to dangerous areas.

Like, in an area they suspect like there is a bomb or something.

And these Palestinians, sometimes they would be killed,

sometimes they wouldn't.

I even saw a report.

It was a story that they have used two elderly Palestinian

men for that.

I think it's called the mosquito method or technique

that is using them as human shields.

And once they were finished with these human shields,

these Palestinians, they executed them.

So when it comes to Zionists, every confession,

every accusation is a confession.

They say that they are using human shields.

No, it's Israel who are using human shields.

They say that they are stealing the aid.

No, it's Israel who was using gangs, criminal gangs,

supporting them, and preventing them with air cover

or looting and stealing the aid.

But that's what it is with Zionists.

When they say something, you assume,

you should assume that the opposite is true.

We've heard a lot about journalists being killed in Gaza.

In fact, there has been, to this day, no independent journalists

allowed into Gaza to kind of see independently what is going on.

Everything appears to be very, very controlled by Israel.

So tell me about that situation.

How much does Israel control what gets out of Gaza?

I mean, right now we're fortunate enough to do a video.

So evidently, there's some things that are getting out.

But they're not allowing independent journalists in there.

And we've even seen it appears to be Israel killing

journalists in Gaza.

Let's talk about that.

I'm glad you asked that, because I'm very passionate about this.

Journalists in Gaza are real journalists.

They are heroes.

You have, there are many examples.

You have, for example, why are they here?

Is Al-Jazeera correspondent in Gaza?

He has been like a correspondent for like 20 years.

And he was reporting in October, late October, 2023,

the beginning of the genocide.

He was reporting live on air when he learned that his wives

and some of his children were killed in an air strike.

He was live on air.

And that's when he found out that his wife and children,

some of his children, 15-year-old, 70-year-old,

were killed and murdered.

And he kept going.

He didn't stop.

In an December, he was injured in Israeli bombing.

And his cameraman was killed.

The next month, he was later evacuated out of Gaza for treatment.

In January, 2024, his son, his oldest son, was killed

in an Israeli air strike.

His son was also a journalist, by the way.

That's what they do to journalists.

You have Anasey Sharif, for example,

is also Al-Jazeera correspondent.

He was reporting from the beginning of the genocide.

His dad was murdered by Israel.

His home was destroyed.

And throughout the genocide, he received multiple, like,

many death threats from the Israeli forces,

from the IDF spokesperson.

It was so easy for Israel.

They could just send a drone and kill it.

And they were threatening him for many months

to basically shut up, because some of the footage

that was coming out of Gaza, he was a prominent journalist,

by the way.

And he wasn't young.

So this is the message that Zionists have.

It's shut up, or we're going to kill you.

And in the end, in August last year,

he was killed in a drone strike,

along with the entire crew of Al-Jazeera in northern Gaza.

By the way, just to just say, each government in Gaza

has like a drone on it.

So northern Gaza, the Gaza, the central camps,

10 units, and the Rafa.

There was another journalist, Ismail Al-Woon.

He was the correspondent for Gaza City.

He was killed.

Israel killed him in July 2024.

And so Anasi Shetty had to cover northern Gaza and Gaza City.

And they killed him.

He was sleeping at night with the Al-Jazeera crew.

And that's when they bombed them and killed them,

killed all of them crew.

He could have gotten out of Gaza, but he didn't.

He wanted to stay.

Another example is Reem Abu Dhabi.

She worked for associated press.

Some of the pictures of Palestinian children

who were starving, baby skeletons, were taken by this woman.

And she didn't want to leave Gaza even though she could.

And she kept reporting.

She kept showing these pictures and videos to the world

of what Israel is doing, of Israel starving 2 million people,

an entire population.

And in the same month, in August, the same month,

Anasi Shetty for a skill, she was also executed.

Life on air at the strike, at Nasser Hospital.

Everybody sighed.

They bombed the hospital.

And when first responders and journalists came,

they bombed them again.

It was the double tap method.

This is what happened.

She was killed with four journalists.

She was executed, live on air.

This is the message.

Shut up or we're going to kill you.

Don't report on what's happening in Gaza.

There's even another journalist, Hassan Islayi.

He had 750,000 subscribers on his telegram channel.

So he was like, had the biggest following inside Gaza.

And they targeted him at Nasser Hospital.

He was like in a tent, there was 10 for the journalists.

He was an independent journalist.

And they bombed him.

But he wasn't killed.

He was injured.

They bombed him at night, like at midnight,

when everyone was asleep.

And two other journalists were killed.

I've seen a video of one of the two journalists

who were killed in that attack.

A journalist, his name is Ahmad Mansul.

He was like sitting on a chair.

He was probably on his phone or something.

And he was literally burning.

Like he's just a body, laying on a chair and burning.

This is what happens when you are a journalist

and you want to show the world what Israel is doing.

And Hassan Slayi, the guy Israel wanted to kill,

I said he was injured, he wasn't killed.

He went to the hospital for treatment.

And while he was in the hospital, they bombed the hospital

and killed him.

By the way, it was like a month between the first strike

that injured him and the second strike that killed him.

He was on his bed and he was reporting.

Like he went back to reporting on his telegram channel.

And then he was killed, murdered.

So this is the message shot up or were going to kill you.

Just yesterday or the day before yesterday,

a Palestinian female journalist.

She was killed in central Gaza strip.

She was working for a local radio.

It's always the same message, shot up or were going to kill you.

Now, I also want to say outside of Gaza,

they want to also shut people up.

It's not as easy for them to kill people outside of Gaza.

In Gaza, they kill anybody they want.

And there will be no accountability.

But outside of Gaza, they try to smear you, sue you,

get you fired from your job, throw you in prison.

But it's one message.

Whether it's in Gaza or outside of Gaza, it is shot up.

But it's not going to work.

Those heroes, those journalists in Gaza, I can't betray them.

I want to keep talking.

I don't want to shut up about what a terrorist entity,

terrorist Zionist entity, Israel is.

Now, I mean, how is it right now with the internet?

I mean, right now, we're able to connect.

Is it pretty difficult sometimes to connect?

Do they restrict access to just regular people like yourself?

It's not easy to have internet connection.

I went to actually a working space, like these are places

in which they provide electricity and internet connection.

I went to one of these, inside a working space right now,

to do this interview with you.

Yeah, it's not easy.

Wi-Fi in Gaza mostly is street Wi-Fi.

So there is these ravers in the streets.

And you need to buy a Wi-Fi ticket.

It has, you can buy for like one check-all.

That's what it costs.

It has a username and a passcode.

I don't have one right now.

And the internet you get is like you can get by.

It's slow, by the way.

In comparison to the Wi-Fi that you have, it's very slow.

It's nothing.

But yeah, it's not easy.

And the ticket is, it gives you Wi-Fi for like eight hours

or six hours, depending on the ticket.

So yeah, I was looking for a place that has good or acceptable

Wi-Fi to be able to do this interview again.

Do they shut the internet off or electricity off

or the water off in your area, often?

Now, there's no electricity in Gaza.

What people use is solar panels.

We have a solar panel at home.

And that's how we charge our phones.

When it comes to internet, like I said,

like it's street Wi-Fi, it's slow, like it's nothing.

When it comes to water, it's very important.

Like the most important thing in Gaza,

that it's not electricity or internet, it's water

to be able to have clean water and also drinking water

because they're not the same.

It's a struggle.

So drinking water, for example,

the water truck comes and it offers,

it's for people to have water.

And everybody just gathers around the truck

to fill up their water gallons.

And that's what I do.

I live on the third floor.

So I take my gallons and go down the stairs

and fill my gallons up.

And it's not easy because there would be so many people

who need water, drinking water.

Sometimes I don't get, I'm not able to fill my gallons

because of how many people are around the truck.

So it's a daily struggle.

And also when it comes to like salty water,

we call it salty because it is salty.

This is the water used to wash your hands

to do other things, like the water in the faucet,

but no faucet.

Most people live in tents.

What about access to food?

The Israelis are, they took the opportunity

of the aggression against Iran

to close the borders, close the crossings

through which it comes to Gaza.

And they are restricting it.

They were restricting it even from before attacking Iran.

And they took that opportunity to say,

hey, we're closing everything,

there's nothing getting into Gaza.

And just two or three days ago,

when they went back to drip feeding Gaza,

saying, hey, see, we're living in aid.

But the Zionists are despicable liars.

Like I said earlier, when a Zionist says something,

you assume the opposite is true.

So food is like expensive in comparison to before the genocide.

It depends on how much food there is inside in Gaza.

Like we can't have any food.

It's all it's, it Gaza is wiped out.

It depends on the food that is coming through the crossings,

the AA, and Israel is restricting it.

Like a very small number of aid trucks coming to Gaza.

Are you able to leave?

Are you able to leave Gaza, if you wanted to?

Do you have freedom of movement?

Could you just pick up and leave and cross the border?

What would happen if you tried to do that?

What would happen is I would get shot and killed.

The Israel is occupying the Gaza border crossing,

which connects Gaza to Egypt.

And there is like a very small number

of Palestinians getting out.

They're getting out for medical treatment.

They were injured during the genocide

and like dozens of Palestinians.

Anyone who tries to just go to leave will get shot and killed.

And also there are Palestinians,

like a very small number of Palestinians,

like dozens coming back from Egypt to Gaza.

And these Palestinians are subjected to beatings or humiliation

or Israelis abusing them at the border

and trying to rob them, trying to worst them

into becoming collaborators who are working for Israel.

So that's it for Palestinians leaving

the very small number of Palestinians leaving

and the very small number of Palestinians coming in.

That's what happens.

So we often hear that it's an open air concentration camp.

You would say that that's an accurate description.

It is an accurate description.

It's a very accurate, an open air prison

in which Israel controls everything.

Like even the internet,

like we have I think 2G towers, I think they're called

like in Gaza, like the internet connection, it's 2G.

And in the West Bank, I think it's 3G, I think.

So they control everything.

The water, the fuel, the food, the shelter, the tents,

the everything, they control everything.

It is literally an open air prison.

Israel made it this way to make Palestinians suffer.

Now to them, to designers,

when a Palestinian suffers, that's an achievement.

When a child is starving, that's an achievement.

When that child turns into a skeleton and dies

from starvation, that's a bigger achievement.

When a baby is cold, that's an achievement.

When that baby freezes to death, that's a bigger achievement.

That's, this is Zionism.

We are up against the Zionist terrorist entity.

I want to ask you because we just spoke here

about freedom of movement.

I want to hear about freedom of religion.

We are seeing that al-Aqsa mosque has been closed to Muslims.

They can't go and pray.

Taarawi right now during Ramadan.

Have you normally had access to al-Aqsa?

Do you have freedom of religion?

Are you able to go to mosques?

Talk to me about that aspect.

No one in Gaza is able to go to al-Aqsa mosque.

There are people in the West Bank who used to be able to go and pray at the al-Aqsa mosque.

There are heavy restrictions.

Like you said, now they are preventing people from praying at al-Aqsa mosque.

It's like the third-polliest mosque for Muslims.

And they closed it since they attacked Iran.

And this has never happened in Israel since it was founded in 1948.

It's the first time in which al-Aqsa mosque is closed.

There are no worshipers.

That's what they are doing right now.

And here in Gaza mosques have been bombed and destroyed.

They did that from the very beginning of the genocide.

They were just bombed mosques.

And almost all of them are destroyed.

So even when it comes to Christians, I've seen these videos of them spitting on Christians.

I remember watching a video that was a few days before October 7th.

So an Israeli channel was asking minister Itamar bin Rafid.

That's the far right terrorist.

About Jews spitting on Christians.

And he said that spitting on Christians is an old Jewish tradition.

When you walk by a monastery or a priest, you spit in their direction.

That's what he said.

So you're saying your mosques have been bombed, destroyed.

So I guess you have to congregate outside of mosques.

So what's happening now is there are like tents.

Big tents are built next to the destroyed mosque.

And people would pray inside the big tent.

And what's interesting is that during Friday prayers, for example, a lot of people come and attend this prayer.

Even from before the genocide.

So much so many people that the tent or the mosque was standing before the genocide.

There would be no space left.

So people who come late have to pray outside the mosque or the tent.

Yeah, we're just use tents next to the destroyed mosque.

What is the relationship like between Christians and Muslims in Gaza?

I mean, is there a lot of friendship?

Are there friendly relations or is there hostility between Muslims and Christians in Gaza?

I don't remember witnessing any hostility.

My view towards Christians in Gaza is positive.

When I was actually in high school, I was in tents or in 11th grade.

There was a Christian student in my class.

I think he was the only Christian student in the whole school.

He was like everybody else.

I didn't feel any difference between him and any other student.

He had his group of friends and he was going to play like everybody else.

I didn't feel any difference than anybody else.

This is my view towards Christians in Gaza.

I've never witnessed any hostility.

I don't remember witnessing or seeing any kind of hostility.

Where is that even coming from?

Nobody thinks about that.

Do you know people who have, however, had experiences with the idea?

And if so, what is it normally like?

Are they usually friendly or is it hostile?

My cousin, he was arrested and was abducted by the idea at the beginning of the genocide.

And they are absolute savages.

They are demons.

He was held in an Israeli prison, like for almost the entirety of the genocide.

He was released in January or February 2025 in last year.

The ceasefire agreement that Israel breached and resumed the genocide.

And they abducted him.

And he says that he was like with like 50 or 100 Palestinian hostages in the prison.

And they had only like one bathroom.

They broke some of his ribs.

They told him that like in interrogation and torturing.

They told him that your family have been killed.

We killed your family.

And they would mention the name of his dad or my uncle or the name of his brother and sister.

And it's psychological terrorism.

And they would do that with Palestinian hostages.

You know, those who are fortunate enough to be released in exchange with Israeli captives.

By the way, they call them Israeli hostages when a soldier is pulled out of his tank.

How is that a hostage?

In what way is that a hostage?

The hostages are the Palestinians in Israeli dungeons.

They would starve them.

Star Palestinians in prison.

Medical neglections.

So these some hostages would have medical conditions.

And the Israelis would use that to just make them suffer.

What do you think causes that?

Why do you believe that they have so much hatred towards your people?

What's going on there?

This is coming from Zionism.

It's like I said, it's the most evil and worst ideology in the world.

They want, they see others, not just Palestinians, but like other people in the region.

As inferior, they are below their beneath Zionists and Israelis.

That's where it's coming from, Zionism, supremacy, and you have people supporting them.

Like Mike Huckabee, for example, the US ambassador to Israel, who I saw a video of him sitting down with two Israeli rabbis.

And he was telling them that they are God's chosen people.

What is that?

It's disgusting.

And he's a lunatic.

I haven't watched his interview with Tucker Carlson, but I saw that clip in which Tucker presses him about Genesis from the Nile to the Euphrates.

And he says, it would be fine if they took it all, because they are superior.

They need to have this land.

And everybody else is just ants. They are just insects.

I recall that interview, and I was happy that Tucker pressed that point, because it's something I've talked about for years, because the biblical borders is a lot larger than the current state of Israel.

So if you're going to say that the current nation of Israel is entitled to the holy land, well, they're then entitled to a much larger territory than they currently have, which would mean they're entitled to displace others.

And in fact, do you think that that's really where the animosity is coming from?

You guys are there on the land that they feel is their land.

So you're a nuisance. You're in the way. You're on their land in their mind.

Do you think that that's part of the hostility?

Exactly. When you look at the Zionist entity, you know, in Arabic, we call it al-Qayan al-Sovrini, the Zionist entity.

The word al-Qayan or translated entity, we use this word because it conveys the meaning of illegitimacy.

That's what Israel is. It's illegitimate. These are people who came from Europe and took the stole the land and kicked Palestinians out by force.

They are foreign. It designs entity, it's foreign to the region. They are not part of the region.

They came from outside. Netanyahu, the grand terrorist, his parents, I think were born in the US and his grandparents are from Poland.

So he's from Eastern Europe, he's Polish. The first Prime Minister of Israel, David Ben-Gorium, he is a Polish guy.

He was born in Poland and came and stole the land. The second Prime Minister is Ukrainian.

Born in Ukraine and came here, stole the land, kicked Palestinians out.

The third Prime Minister is also Ukrainian. So those are people coming from outside but from Russia or the US, New Europe or Europe coming here to this land, kicking Palestinians out.

Because they in their mind, they think that God promised us this land 3,000 years ago or something. They have a 3,000 year connection to the land.

It's garbage. But again, this is what Zionism is. They were getting in the way by existing, by being here on our land.

We are getting in their way of trying to implement their view of greater Israel.

You mentioned there Netanyahu and coming from Europe and stuff like that. I think his father's name was originally Milakowski and he changed it to Netanyahu to sound more Semitic.

It's interesting to see that, which is also curious because Tucker, in that interview, by the way with Huckabee, was saying, well, OK, if the Jewish people were entitled to the Holy Land, maybe there should be some tests to actually see if they are Jewish, in fact.

And of course, Netanyahu pushed back on that immediately. And I think we know why because you're saying that, well, actually a lot of these people are probably more European than they actually are Jewish, which is ironic, right?

And another point that maybe has to be made is that it appears that Palestinians have more of a trace back to Abraham than some of the people who have come out of Europe and moved over to Israel.

Exactly. He did suggest the DNA test. I don't know if it's for better or not, to have a DNA test in Israel. I've heard that, but I think it might be true because Israelis are a collection of Europeans.

The Europeans, they came from Europe, Jewish Europeans, Zionists, they came from Europe. Now, there were Jews in the land, in Palestine, from before, but the majority of Israelis is entity.

It's foreign. They are foreigners. They came from Europe and they took it. So, yeah, of course, Netanyahu came out and said, no, we don't want DNA tested. It's hilarious because on one hand, they say, 3,000 year connection to the land.

OK, well, let's see. Do you really have 3,000 year connection to the land? All your anti-Semitic. That's all they have.

We hear the conditions before the war were difficult. Would you agree with that?

Conditions from an economic perspective, yes, indeed, they were difficult. In Gaza, workers like government workers, whether it's like the Gaza government or the Amalda government, the Palestinian Authority, or UNRA workers, they were not paid their full salaries.

They were paid like 60% or 55% of their salaries because they had a very big economic crisis. It is part of, indeed, it is part of the reason there was October 7th.

Even unemployment in Gaza was like 50% or 55%, it was very high in Gaza.

How has your own faith in God impacted your ability to move forward, to continue to go on in the midst of very difficult situations?

During these times like this, in which you are about to, or you could die at any moment, you could be killed.

I think this makes people, it depends and increases people's faith. Like they become more in a way religious because it's the thought of death being dead.

I've seen these memes in the past, the fastest way to make an atheist a believer is like in a helicopter, and the helicopter is about to fall, my ship is about to sink, and there's an atheist.

This is the fastest way for an atheist to be a believer. These are the memes I have come across in the past.

When this is the situation, my faith, I would say, kind of increased.

I wouldn't call myself a very religious person. I'm just normal. I'm fasting, I'm fasting, I'm fasting, I'm praying and all.

Do you have any concluding thoughts, any parting words as we're kind of wrapping it up here, any final thoughts?

Gaza has changed the world. The hell, Gaza and Palestinians and Gaza have been through. Well, not go in vain.

Mohammed, I want to thank you so much for coming on and doing this. It was an honor. My heart goes out to you and your people.

You're always welcome to come back on the show and let me know if I could do anything for you.

Thank you for having me. It was such a pleasure being here on your amazing podcast show.

Thank you. It was an honor. I appreciate it.