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Hannah cried at a gay rodeo and Paige is fired up.
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I have a couple things I need to talk about.
Thank you.
I haven't listed.
Go off.
Where should I start?
Where should I start?
Let me start with something that happened last week because...
I forgot to talk about it when we were...
Because we were just talking about so much South by Southwest.
True.
Did you see the video of Kiki Palmer doing something at South by Southwest?
I don't even know who she was interviewing.
She was interviewing like a cast of something.
And a guy came up to the post to the stage.
Like walked up to the stage.
Walked up to the stage.
Like normal, in his 30s, good-looking,
dressed well, had like a lanyard on.
Like he was supposed to be at...
First of all, what is South by Southwest?
No one knows.
Also, if you have a lanyard, you could do anything.
Do you know that one?
Lucho has his camera.
He goes, I can literally do anything.
He has broken into so many things with me.
Where they're like, you don't have another chicken.
He's like, I have a camera.
And he's like, I could do anything.
It's really crazy.
But anyway, she just make up a fake lanyard and walk anywhere.
So this man like has a lanyard.
So he walks up to the stage.
And he, I'm not kidding, proposes to Kiki Palmer.
And Kiki is like so professional and actually,
like, too nice to this guy.
Yeah.
The thing that pissed me off so badly was...
Remember when this happened to Drew Barrymore?
Yes.
And I think she was bringing a wrap.
Bring a wrap, like had a bodyguard.
Yes. And the bodyguards ran out so quickly.
No one ran out.
No one.
It took them like three minutes.
And they were like so nice to this guy.
Like, oh, can you move along?
Like, you know, like this is...
No.
Tackle this man.
Tackle this man.
What are you talking about?
He's walking up and proposing to Kiki Palmer.
Well, that happened once.
And one of our shows, remember,
someone got up and just started walking towards the stage.
And we both were maybe like...
I said, are you gonna shoot me?
And no security guards doing anything.
But you wonder, like, what security is there for it?
Definitely if someone starts going towards the stage.
Well, there's no protocol in which the audience
has to be on or near the stage.
Yeah.
Unless whoever's on stage is like, we're bringing someone up
from the audience.
So anyone moving toward the state,
tackled that person.
I saw that, like,
but Kiki is famously like the nicest,
coolest, most charismatic person.
But she shouldn't have been in that position.
One time I met her at the today show,
and she looked at me and she said,
you look like I'm Marrata.
And then she walked away.
And I was like...
I said, I love your pixie.
I did a video with her back in the day
when I was at Betches.
I love her.
She's amazing.
People don't praise her enough that she's like...
Like talented.
So multi-tested.
She could do anything.
But she's one of those that is so talented
that I think people haven't caught up.
Like...
Like, guys, she was a singer.
Hello.
She was in a spelling bee.
She can spell.
So anyway, I've had anoint me.
I digress.
And also, when the whole audience is there,
you can't suddenly be like,
bro, shut the fuck up.
Well, even the people that she was interviewing,
they were almost joking.
And I was like, no, no.
This guy could whip a gun out.
That's like stalker shit.
Leave Kiki Pomer alone.
Speaking of mentally ill.
It's a girl in your wedding segue.
Okay.
I rarely have.
And I rarely watch something
that you've already talked about
because I'm like,
why watch are my friend watching
as she told me about it?
I watch The Manosphere.
It is so deeply, mentally, unwell.
Like, I'm watching it.
And the guy, what's his name?
Whatever.
The rooster.
The rooster room.
He's interviewing these men.
And I'm like,
why isn't anyone breaking the news to them
that they're mentally ill
and they have to go on medicine and see a doctor?
Or call their dad.
Or one phone call to your dad
might eliminate this.
The one guy.
Also, the one guy that like lives in Miami
and has red hair.
Yeah.
Get a boy from babe, babe.
Just one man.
Just see.
You've obviously already hooked up with the man.
I actually don't even have to say that.
But maybe date one like fully
and you wouldn't have to terrorize
everyone you meet.
Here's the other thing.
The other guy when they bring in the mom
and he's like,
changes his whole rhetoric
because the mom looks at him and is like,
who raised her rhetoric?
And then the one guy whose wife came in
and he got all scared and was like,
please cut her part.
Well, they're all fake con men.
They're all so dumb too.
Also, any guy that has to say they're manly
is not manly.
Any guy who has to say they're a nice guy
is not a nice guy.
You're doing all of this to like make money
and like,
but you don't, you're influencing
an entire generation of men
who are, their brains are not formed
and won't be till their 40s.
And it's really scary
and Genzi is so scary.
And they're blaming the fact
that they're failing on women.
They're saying society
is like created for the men to fail
because of the women.
I'm like,
have you heard of the patriarchy?
Read a history book.
Everything is set up for you guys.
Go do one job in your view.
You guys set it up.
In the 1800s,
you guys did this.
You're complaining about
the patriarchy that you're in charge of.
It's so, it was so freaky
and so scary and weird.
And it's also, I think they almost like
envy women so much.
They want to like emulate them
and do things that we, like,
like this man was like,
he's never going to get invited to Miami on a yacht.
It's like, okay.
Okay, they're so mad that girls get free drinks.
He's like, she can go on a yacht with a hot guy.
It's like, do you want to go with the hot guy?
Because we'll tag you in.
You want to suck dick on a yacht?
Because you can.
Anytime I've ever been invited anywhere by a man,
I've brought other friends.
Like, you could come with me.
It was one of the scariest documentaries
I think I've ever watched, actually.
I'm in like a RuPaul K-hole still,
which is why I haven't any,
had any new documentary updates.
But one of the many challenges or challenges they have
is they're, they brought in gay rodeo.
Okay.
Now gay rodeo.
As soon as it says this podcast is an informative,
has literally never listened to a single episode.
So by the way, I cry every episode of RuPaul Drag Race.
Like, you think you're not going,
everyone's crying the whole time.
Okay.
So a bunch of these like really manly rodeo men come in.
And then you find out they're all gay.
And they're all like, I was afraid to come out
because rodeo is so masculine and homophobic.
Yeah.
So like, they were like,
if I came out as gay, the rodeo wouldn't accept me.
So they created their bond.
What the hell is the rodeo?
He's gay, rodeo is gay, by the way.
You're just a bunch of men riding each other.
So watch Yellowstone and shot off.
Also, you're wearing heels with a pointed toe.
Like, there's no need.
You've been accessorizing with belts and hats for years.
You're wearing.
We know you're gay, babe.
You're wearing belts with decorations on them
and showing them off.
Really?
I think the same with like the WWE.
Like, oh, the prize is a belt.
Like, it's only sport that rodeo were meant
for like, we need to wear jeans.
I mean, you don't need to wear jeans.
But like, that's my aesthetic.
They're like, no, we do.
No other sport do wear jeans.
And you're like, that's so interesting to have.
Like other sports, like Polo doesn't wear jeans.
Why are they in their like,
my favorite, like, Levi's?
No, they like really lean into like the aesthetic of their sport.
Like, if you said to me, gun to my hat,
I talked about guns a lot.
You want your own.
So much vibe.
Yeah, I'm so trying to.
If you said gun to my head,
what do they do in the rodeo?
I would die.
I've watched it once accidentally at a bar
because I'll get into any sport.
It's insane.
They just get thrown off a bull
that doesn't want them on their back.
Like, Pete is not happy.
Like, Pete is like, clearly,
they don't want you riding them.
Honestly, you know what it is?
It's just like no consent.
It's just men like with no consent.
The bulls that are like, hey, can we not do this
and they're doing this and they're like,
well, I'm going to kick you off if you try.
And the guy's like, I'm going to try
and he's like, well, I'm going to kick you off.
That's a sport.
But so these gay rodeo guys created this gay rodeo
for guys who wanted to come out of the closet
and be gay and do rodeo in peace.
In peace.
And then they were getting,
becoming drag queens.
And it was so interesting because
one of them was like, I used to do drag,
but I felt like I lost myself
and I lost my masculinity.
But I'm finding my femininity is helping me find my power.
And he was crying.
And I was crying soon.
But like, it's just discovering different
versions of themselves.
But anyway, I really love repulsing.
Thank you so much for that interlude, Hannah.
We appreciate it on this very pleasant
Monday morning.
It is such a Monday today.
It's such a Monday.
It's such a Monday.
It's such a Monday socialized to this weekend,
which is like, so one page socializes without me.
I sit back, I wait, I'm worried.
I can feel nervous, wake up in the morning,
have a 1 a.m. text of everything that went down.
You made me laugh so hard.
Can I say one of your growth?
Yeah.
She goes, the girls are younger,
the guys are exactly the same.
Okay.
Someone's going on with Gen Z.
And look, I feel like I talk about this a lot with like,
and I think it's partly because I'm getting older.
But like, I'm really sad that club culture is dying.
Clubs were like such a big part of my life for so long.
And thinking that like, Gen Z doesn't go out
and like drink and go to clubs.
And like, I feel bad for them because everything's recorded
and you can't like be yourself.
2015, we weren't Instagramming.
And that's certainly not.
I was living my best life on a table out of clubs somewhere
doing something.
We know what you're doing.
I go to dinner.
I go to dinner with one of my girlfriends,
one of my guy friends, and they keep being like,
okay, we're going to go to this club like after dinner
and I'm like, okay.
And every club's name is a lovely female's name.
Really?
It's a Lila, Mary Lou.
Jolene, like all these different club names,
it's just like women's names.
We're trying to get the women to go there.
It makes it feel, it sounds like a brunch.
Delilah, that sounds like a brunch.
We pull up and I'm like, this is not, I know this club
and I like say the name of it years ago.
And they're like, oh yeah, I think it was that club.
27 years ago, in 1982.
So I walk in and I go, no, it's the same club.
They didn't even change the formation.
Like bars over here, DJs over here.
You really know everyone who works there?
Now, Julie, you're like Steve, two things happened to me.
One, I witness for the first time ever
in my entire adult life.
I witnessed, I'm at standing at one table
and there's, it's like a row of tables.
I'm standing over here, there's like maybe a couple,
I'm like two tables away.
I watch two men sitting at a table, three men,
sitting at a table alone and I watch pretty young girls
walk up to the table and I see the men look at each other.
Like, who are these girls?
Like, why do they want to like, we don't know them type thing.
Like get away from our table.
And in my head, I'm like, hey guys,
this is the whole point.
The whole point of getting a table is that those two girls
actually want to speak to you.
Because if we were in the setting, they would it.
So it was like one of the weird, I was like,
this is so weird I have to go.
When I'm walking in, I hear a girl behind me say,
I'd recognize that voice anywhere.
Like, I'm a giggler.
And so I turn around and I start talking.
You know you were yapping.
That was yapping.
And I'd start talking to this girl and her friend walks up
and I look at her friend and I go, I know you.
How do I know you?
And she goes, I dated your ex-boyfriend after you.
And I go, I've looked at your, it's like, I'm then it,
like all came flooding back up.
Oh, I know everything about you.
I go, I've stalked your Instagram.
The closeness of that relationship.
But also the team that must have been spilled.
Well, we couldn't even spill it because we literally
had like five minutes.
But you're trauma bonded.
We were so trauma bonded.
I was like, you're stunning, you're gorgeous.
Like everything about you.
And then you almost feel bad for a second
that you let her date him.
Like I should have intervened.
I said, I wanted to DM you,
but I didn't want to see that girl.
Be that girl, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like I needed you to know that he was the worst.
Honestly, there's something so refreshing
talking to another girl who dated the same guy
to be like, he made me feel like ABC and D.
Is that because of me?
Or is that just a universal experience?
Actually, I talked to two people.
Two separate boyfriends and they're like,
wasn't that a nightmare?
And I'm like, one, I dated before and then the other one,
I dated after this girl.
And it was almost like the same thing.
She was like, someone needs to tell her
that like, he will try and ruin her life.
Okay, so there's a couple things I may not get.
But also, I would say like, yeah,
we need to rank all the guys and leave notes on them
that it, but I do think it's important
to see how bad a dude can be
so that you know what your worth is.
And then you date up like,
it's almost like you need that experience
to know what you deserve.
And I'm the kind of girl that like,
if you DMed me and was like,
this guy's horrible, like, I'm reading it.
Oh, yeah.
Like, I'm not immediately being like,
okay, well, that's like, I'm like, well, why?
Give me one of my teammates.
I said, who is this girl and why'd she say that?
Right.
Give me your side of the story.
I'm fucking judged you do right now.
And the amount of girls that like,
I've reached out to, I reached out to one girl
specifically actually that dated a guy
that I dated prior.
And I reached out to her and I apologized to her
because I said, I'm so sorry that I even had a moment
that I would believe him over what a woman was saying.
I was so blinded.
I completely apologize.
Everything he said was a lie.
I'm sure you're lovely.
I'm sure we'd be friends.
She responded like, let's get to it.
Like, yeah, like all, like all good.
I know the type of like psychosis you were in.
I was going to say he did him also.
Dick, don't worry about it.
Digmatization, when they're in it, they're in it.
And you got to get it, let her get through that.
Yeah, you can't convince her.
Like, you're like, he's in jail and she's like,
and he calls me every day.
So go fuck yourself.
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As you guys know, I'm not up on Mormon-wise,
which is the one show that seems to be every,
I can't open my news feed without seeing
crazy news.
I just want to apologize to the gigglers
because we had recorded the episode
before, last week, before all of this.
Did we talk about it?
No, all of this happened.
We had already recorded it.
We weren't like, go watch the bachelor.
No, so I was actually so mad this week
for like everything was happening
because I was like, I have so much to say about this.
I was literally texting like,
I can't wait to hear your take.
My top line is, if you're mad at Taylor Frankie Paul,
which I like her name is, like, so intense.
If you're mad at her, I so envy you
because that means you've never dated a person like Dakota.
Dakota truly is, tell me lies,
Steven, in real life.
Is she toxic too?
Absolutely.
There were a lot of people that were mad
that like, in Mormon wives,
you saw her sleep with Dakota
before she left to go do the bachelor at.
And it's like, okay, well, yeah,
because she's a reality TV star
and you're watching her reality show.
You think like the other bachelor
and bachelor hats weren't fucking before they went on TV
or immediately after, like, that's insane.
She's thinking clearly in a toxic.
People like really sometimes don't.
You can't like see through reality TV
and it really confuses me.
All the people judge reality TV
harsher than they judge their own friends.
I think the bachelor at season being pulled from the air
is one of the craziest things ever.
Well, I would like to say,
if you're gonna pull the bachelor at season from the air,
you're gonna have to pull the whole NFL season.
You're gonna have to pull the NBA, the NFL.
MLB, golf.
You're gonna probably get a lot of people out of the government.
The entire government.
But yeah, this 26-year-old Mormon housewife,
her whole season is getting pulled
and she might get sued, like, please.
On information that they had.
That you already knew.
You hired her knowing this information.
Now the video, did you watch the video?
I have to say I don't recommend people watch the video.
I watched it innocently just, like,
for informative purposes because I have a podcast.
Correct.
It was very, very upsetting.
Very upsetting.
Don't watch it.
There's a child.
You can hear the daughter.
Now, Taylor, Frankie, Paul, that's fucked up.
Fighting with him in front of your children.
Women are just better than men.
We have to be better than them.
And so, like, you should have gone into a different room
and, like, duked it out or whatever.
We witnessed a person at their lowest low.
I've watched so many men on reality TV
do some of the most horrible things.
Physical.
Physical.
Physical.
Mental.
And get so rid of what you're...
I've watched people be like,
I'm a drug addict and then be like,
you're the star of the show.
I've watched people get in physical altercations
that if I had gotten into...
Yeah.
You fired.
I'd be in jail.
You would have been fired.
The bachelorette firing Frankie.
Taylor, Paul, Frankie, Paul, Taylor.
It's crazy because it's like,
oh, like, you've never had a season
where everyone hated the woman.
Well, then there were, like, rumors that ABC was like,
oh, well, they thought it was going to be a bad season
so they rather just, like, take the law.
There's never a bad season.
People who don't like watching.
You're always going to make it good.
That's what they're professionals at.
Making sure there's drama even when there isn't.
Obviously, I watched the entire season of Mormon.
Did they cut her out of it?
No, no.
Okay, that was a rumor.
This was aired.
All of the husbands now.
I think secret lives of Mormon wives
should be studied in colleges
and, like, during, like, feminist classes
because it's such a great example of all that.
And all the men were like,
hey, marry us at 22.
You're going to stay home.
You're going to have a bunch of kids.
You're going to keep the house.
You're not going to do anything
that you've ever dreamt of doing.
But it's going to be good
because we're going to be married
and I'm going to take care of you.
All of the sudden, all their wives
got famous and rich.
And they said, hey, remember that idea?
You had a couple of years ago
where I was going to stay home
and take the care of the kids.
Now you have to do it.
They're all revolting.
Freaking out.
They're freaking.
Well, because they're all of seven children.
Literally, one of the husbands sat there
and was like, well, I didn't go to med school.
Why go?
Go do it then.
What do you talk?
Yeah, because your wife makes so much money now.
It is.
You're chilling.
And you're going to sit here and say to her,
like, you did a video with another guy
at Disney World Dancing.
Oh, to promote the dancing show she's on.
Like, Jessie's husband literally came on
and was like, our wives don't monopolize the internet.
Like, I'm the leader of Dad Talk.
No one wants you on our TV.
I heard they were like, Dad Talk's funnier.
Like, they actually can't comprehend
that people want to watch their wives and not them.
They can't comprehend that their wives
are better at something than they are.
We're instead, I mean, I would argue
what it looks like from the outside.
At least Whitney's husband is the best one.
Is supporting her, proud of her.
And I would talk, this is literal jealousy.
Because it's like, even in like a friendship.
I could be jealous of my friend
when something good happens.
Or I could go, that's my best friend.
And I'm so fucking proud that I'm her best friend.
What if you're not like that, though?
What the fuck is the point?
Why are you in a relationship with someone?
Your biggest hater is in your bed?
I've dated my biggest hater.
He was in my bed, and it's truly one of,
you never go to sleep like peaceful.
It's truly so anxious because you're like,
not only do you like low-key hate me,
you also low-key wanna be me.
And that's really terrifying because you're like,
the men coming together.
It's so like opposition to the women.
It's literally like us first you guys.
And I'm like, you've lost the plot.
Marriage is about love and teamwork.
And like some years, someone else picks up this.
Some years will happen.
It's about two people who are capable
of supporting each other through thick and thin.
There's no star.
I've watched so many men,
and I've watched so many women on television
and experienced it.
The women can handle the mental load more.
They seem to not get as caught up in,
this is my real life.
Like they can separate, this is television,
and this isn't real.
The men can't.
I've truly watched so many men on reality TV
and been like, okay, but that's not who you really are.
This is who you pretend to be on TV.
And there's gonna come a certain time
where the lines are blurred.
And you're gonna go into a psychosis
because who are you?
I don't think you know who you are,
and that's really unhealthy.
I think the longer you stay on reality TV,
the more your mental health,
and not from hate, like take out like people that hate you.
It's not even that.
It's the mental health of filming a television show
where you are truly pretending
to be somebody that you're not.
You're gonna come for Taylor Frankie Paul.
Let me keep my foot on this man's neck.
But you're gonna tell Colton
that he can be on the number one television show.
He was accused and convicted.
I admitted it.
But we're pulling the bachelor at, please.
And Colton stays catching straight.
Yeah, I'll never let that go.
And when you have a stalker, I'm not kidding.
It's, you feel, you feel so violated
just like being alive
because you're like this person is, it's really scary.
The traders too, after they filmed,
like you're in this crazy psychosis.
So you'll literally be hanging out with someone
and be like, are you a trader?
And you're like, wait, I'm not in that mindset.
So when people do reality TV for like 10 years,
they start believing.
Yeah.
Especially when some people are edited
to be better than they are.
Totally.
So if you on TV are edited to be this great husband
or this charming nice guy,
with that, then the person actually
in their real life believes that's who they are.
Yeah.
When illness happens.
And when you have to tell a man,
hey, you're not who you think you are.
You're not who, well, it's crazy to have to tell a man.
You're not who everyone here thinks you are.
Yeah.
You're not who the entire public thinks you are.
My TikTok is so savage.
It's said, no one will villainize you more than a person
who realizes that you have clocked who they really are.
100%.
100%.
Man, I think you can just see how you look at them.
Yeah, men know when I don't fuck with them.
Men, I mean, men know when I don't fuck with them.
It's also like I'm just disappointed.
I've had, I'm not charmed.
There's so many men that I've like never been mean to,
never had words with.
My demeanor is I don't fuck with you.
And like you do nothing for me.
And I've had them go completely off on me.
Like an amagai haven't even said anything.
Like I triggered my presence
and like me being alive triggers you so much.
I saw a thing that was like,
if marriage was good for women,
they would have taken it away from us a long time ago.
And that's so true.
I was at the gym the other day.
Literally, I'm the only person in there.
There's one other guy.
Cumberbrag.
So I was doing 12 through 30.
I'm, I literally I have my headphones in.
I turn off my music because I'm like,
I need to be able to hear if this fucking guy
is going to come up behind me
because he had his headphones on
and he kept just repeating things.
I just got freaked out.
And I was like, now I can't even listen to anything
because I have to be aware.
And I literally kept turning my head casually
to see like where he was.
Because I'm like, in my head,
I'm like, what if he takes away
and just hits in the back.
My mom literally came into my brain.
I was like, he's going to hit me in the back of my head.
He's going to pull me out.
And this is why we don't work out.
Yeah.
I don't go to the gym.
I do have to do a shout out.
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There's a girl on TikTok
who to keep her burrito clothes,
she used her hair tie.
And geniuses are all around us.
You know, that's funny because I saw a TikTok the other day
and it was a girl being like,
why don't we use more of our pretty stuff
in our everyday lives?
And it was her using her hair clip.
So you're algorithmic to curl up her head,
like no, her like charging wires.
And she just like clipped it with her hair clip
and I was like, cute.
And then she like rolled up a bag of chips
and she's like a beret.
And I was like, adorable.
It was like, I'm going to start using all my pretty things
that I like for other purposes.
Well, you have so many little trinkets.
I love it, I love stuff.
You love stuff.
I love my stuff.
See, I hate stuff.
I love stuff.
I feel weighed down by stuff.
Like every three months,
I need to like get rid of all my stuff.
Like all of it.
See, I just love getting new stuff.
I'm putting it with my old stuff.
And I love organizing my stuff.
That's the thing I don't like to organize my stuff.
Make up stuff with my makeup stuff and my hair stuff.
Someone asked me like,
when's the last time you washed your brushes?
I was like, when I lose them, I get a new brush.
Like, I've never washed a brush.
I make a brush.
Someone, I think we should do it.
Somebody, I don't know if she DMed me
or commented something, I can't remember.
I think she meant a DM to me,
but she was like, I think you and Hannah
should switch routines for one week,
like your skin and hair care, and just see.
When I tell you guys, I'm not capable.
Like, I've seen the military operation
that is your skin care.
I don't have a hair care.
I don't have a wig on.
I'm like, the way it's called, you just lined out.
I don't shower and that's it.
And then when it's time to go to sleep,
like fight with yourself about,
can you brush your teeth or not,
because you're so tired.
Can I wake up at 6 a.m. today and I go,
hmm, maybe I'll do a face mask.
Did a face mask, laid on the couch,
put castor oil and a heating pad on my stomach
as I got my period?
Maybe that's why I'm so fired up today.
Yep.
Thanks.
I got it yesterday.
So, a red moon.
Yeah, everyone watch the fuck out.
You're like, we're totally off.
Are we?
We're not synced with the hell.
You wanna know what it is?
I think my body is so sensitive
that when I date the wrong person,
my body truly will reject it.
So, like, I legit didn't get my period
for like two years.
I'm not kidding.
It's like, it was actually really scaring me at one point.
And I've never been more regular.
I've never since high school.
I have not been regular.
I am almost to the fucking day.
Like, I had my period legitimately, exactly.
And 28 days ago.
Yes, we're into psychics, we're into astrology.
I was about to say we're not woo-woo,
but like, I guess we kind of are.
But sometimes, like, you're thinking about like,
what's within, like, am I eating the wrong thing
or whatever, look outside of you.
Look at the environment.
Is there a hater in your bed?
No, like, you can go to the gym.
Five days a week.
You can eat all the fucking protein
they tell you to.
It works smarter or not harder.
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And I think the Taylor Frankie Paul thing
is such a good example of who you choose to be with
is life or death.
I don't say that lightly, it really is.
What?
Things about Dakota is a red flag to you that you've seen.
Well, he lies so well.
He's so good at, well, one, he's a good-looking guy,
so he's already, he's, yeah.
I would say he's objectively a good-looking guy.
He's got sharp, he's got piercing blue eyes,
he's got brown hair, he's got good facial features.
I don't know how tall he is.
But the truth is, is let me be honest.
The ugliest guys can manipulate you.
It doesn't matter if they're good-looking or not.
But in the public, the public, if you're okay or not,
is based on looks.
If you have a decent jawline.
He lies so impeccably well, it's terrifying.
He's so extremely manipulative to everyone around him
that you can see him almost be excited
that people are believing him.
There was a scene where he's sitting with her family
and I'm like, oh my God, he's giddy
because he just realized they believe him.
And she beats herself down so much
because they're like, the worst thing you could ever do
is have a baby with two men.
That is one of the most deplorable,
disgusting things I think I've ever heard in my life
that like if a woman has a baby with more than one man,
you're like, you should be crucifixivate, like shut up.
I think you should get some range.
Let's mix it up, the DNA a little bit.
You can have a little whimsy.
You can just risk it all with one guy.
I think this show is such a good example
for like women in their 20s.
To not get married before 25.
Yeah, we have to, I keep forgetting that they're Mormons.
Well, it's just a good thing, we're a good example
of like the way they tell you to live
is only okay if it's the man.
Well, isn't their religion very like the man
is the head of the household where,
if I hear the words head of the household,
one of their husbands did a confessional
and was like, look, you know our way of life
is like that I'm in charge, but I'm not gonna do that
because I'm a nice guy.
I'm like, shut the fuck up.
The fact, okay, that, you're like that, you and I.
That's why we've said, first of all,
you're not a nice guy.
If you have to say you're a nice guy,
I'll say it a bozillion times.
Also, if you disagree with the way your guy's
his lifestyle is and your religion, then get out.
Yeah.
If you're still supporting it, you support it.
But yeah, they're breeders.
The girls are supposed to be breeders.
So the fact that they're doing other things,
all the men are going cuckoo bananas.
Because they're not making the men's life lives easier.
But they are, they're bringing in tons of money for them.
Laura Higgins didn't interview one time
and she was talking about how she dated a guy
and he said to her, like, I make your life easier
and she said, really?
How?
And he said to her, why carry your bags?
She was like, oh my God, how did I live 33 years
without you carrying my bag?
Like, they're so delusional.
It does remind me when I was in my early 20s,
this guy was like obsessed with me
when I was in my darkest point.
Like, I was debating becoming a yoga instructor.
I was like, very lost.
I was scared.
I didn't have a purpose.
I was pretty depressed and I was confused.
And he was like, perfect.
As I started figuring out what I wanted to do for a living
and get career momentum, suddenly there's issues.
And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, oh,
people like me more when I'm successful.
Will, I know that he was actually resenting me more.
And I wasn't successful as a strong word.
Like, I got a job.
And I was like, passionate about it and excelling at it.
And it's just ironic.
But thank God he acted that way so I could get him out.
Even though he started Giggly Squad,
I was like seeing someone who was like,
are you really going to do this like a little podcast?
And I was like, oh yeah, babe, just wait for it.
I've known then Instagram recommends Threads to me,
which is a scary place, because some people
are like just saying all their inner thoughts, which
are mostly not healthy, but occasionally it's like informative.
And one girl was talking about how many girls
are in their thirties, where early thirties or mid thirties,
where their career isn't where they want it to be yet,
but they're feeling pressure to have a kid.
Yeah.
And some of them haven't met a person
that they want to settle down with to have a kid.
Here's the other thing.
You're told, like, have a kid, have a kid,
get married, be a wife, and then you do it.
And then all of society is like, ew, we hate you.
So it's like you literally just tricked us into doing something.
And then you're going to treat us worse.
Like if someone was like, if you have a baby
and you get married, like, people let you sit down on the subway
and they treat you with like the utmost respect,
okay, cool, then I'll do it.
They literally treat us worse though.
They're like, why are you working?
They've got a kid.
They force you to have the kid, even if you're like,
I can't have this kid.
Remember when Whitney went and did Chicago?
They were like, but you have three kids.
It's like, okay, and there's another parent in the home.
Also, isn't it so cool that those kids
are able to see their mom living her dream?
Like, how inspirational is that?
And like, showing up on Broadway and being like,
that's my mom.
Yeah, yeah, obviously.
Obviously.
God, are we just the only ones who can get it?
Like, I can't.
On a later note, I saw a tweet that said,
I really thought Hammerhead Sharks would be more prevalent.
When we were growing up, they had some like,
medium momentum, they were like doing well.
Haven't heard about them.
Like, they're out of the limelight completely.
Did they just decide to like, go to a farm somewhere?
Like, they used to be at every event.
On the cover.
Their PR was like, really good, early 2000s.
Well, think about.
Shark week.
Shark week.
We had like, really good PR when it first came out.
People were like, cancelling plans for Shark Week.
Yeah.
Because it was cable.
That's what it was.
We didn't have streams and streaming
hasn't figured out a way to take Shark Week over.
I think like, I'm good.
There is a good documentary about how you can make
friends with Shark Week.
Like, let's just do more AI dinosaurs.
Yeah, sure, guys.
That's exactly how it went down.
Like, I mean, what was that enough like?
We were also at a point where like,
now the world is so crazy that when I see something,
I go, that's AI and it's not.
Like, I'm reverse AI myself.
I'll be like, I'm not gonna send that to anyone that's AI.
And people like, it's not AI.
Just watch parrots get haircuts.
Because then like, is it AI?
Who knows?
Who knows?
Wait, is that when they comb it back?
Yeah, like, it's so satisfying.
You like that, because he looks like a Canadian.
Well, I love the bob.
I love a bob on any one.
You can't see, Bob.
I'm like, yeah.
All parrots should have a bob.
Why wouldn't they?
It's definitely now ship it ship's international.
Definitely ship it to Canada.
But I want to shout out the Canadian girls
because they're really the number one girls
that were like, please start shipping internationally.
And so I was like, we got to work on this specifically
for the Canadians.
So you can buy Daphne now.
Did you have to call to get it to Canada?
Like, how does that work?
Katie Perry.
I was like, Katie, can you like, talk to that guy
and see if like, I could just like send some jammies.
She's like, yeah, sure.
But I was, it reminded me I was thinking about
how hard ice skating is.
Yeah.
Can you ice skate?
Are you holding the rink on the side?
Can I ice skate?
I can, but I can't.
I'm not like putting the skates down
and just like getting out there.
Like, I need like 10 minutes to like regain my bearings.
Get the vibe.
But I took ice skating lessons as a child at some point.
Oh, and also, Kim had me in every thing.
I was like, Kim.
Well, she wanted to see you in a little like...
Oh, she loved an outfit.
Like that is so fucking cute.
Yeah, she's a ballerina.
I'm like, how about we sit on the couch?
I did want to let people know though
that my mom was telling me a story
and I realized I've been a delusional icon since day one.
I've never ice skated before
and I was like eight years old.
And I get to the rink in Brooklyn.
There's rink.
And I see all the big teenage girls in the middle
doing jumps.
Yeah.
And you're like, so I look at my dad
and I'm like, I want to go over there.
Yeah.
And he looked at me and he's like,
you don't know how to ice skate.
When you learn, you can go over there and I go,
I'm not skating with these fucking losers.
Put me in the middle and let me go.
And he was like, is my hidden talent or it's not that?
Let's say.
He was like, you're gonna hurt yourself.
You're like, you'll get attacked.
Like they don't let you, you can't go.
And I was like, I'm not fucking ice skating
unless I'm doing flips.
And he was like, this is gonna, I fought with my dad
for like 30 minutes.
I'm like, I'm not, I refused to learn the basics.
And I just said, I'm a champion.
I'm going to the Olympics.
That was so mean and then I ended up not doing it
because I was like, I'm not playing this game.
It's interesting that you can probably see
who your kids are gonna become
if you really just like take a minute.
And in that moment, he probably was like,
this girl's fucking crazy.
But if you do that with the right thing,
like me being like, oh, I'm just gonna do stand up
in front of 500 people.
Yeah.
That's mental illness.
That's delusion.
But even a blind squirrel finds a nut
every now and then and I found my nut.
And then you go.
Guys, be delusional if you forgot.
That's so funny.
You say that because my parents were like looking
through old pictures the other day.
They were like cleaning, I think they were like
cleaning out our basement or something.
That's the best.
Make my day.
I love a clean out photo session.
And I like died for baby dolls.
Like I was a mother.
Like I didn't play with anything else,
but a baby doll.
You were working three jobs to feed these children.
Like Barbie's get out of my face.
Like any figurines, I was like, you're stupid.
Like Legos are dumb.
Like I was a mother.
I was actually terrified of babies now, but I digress.
Catch me in my play kitchen with being off a meal.
Like everything then, I thought I wanted it.
You're like the water's boiling.
But this is how I was the same.
My mom used to say that if my dad came into my play room
and if I was holding my baby dolls, if he kissed my,
because my mom would say that like I used to be,
that she'd be like, OK, kiss your baby.
Like that's your baby and I would like kiss my baby.
And then if my dad kissed my baby, I would look at my dad
and be like, why would you do that?
I would get so mad.
I'd be like, I'm your baby.
This is, you don't know this doll.
And that is my relationship.
I'm like, why would you text her?
Did you look at that girl across the street?
I'm like, from a young age you are who you are.
From a young age, I knew I wanted to beat men.
I knew that they were all up to no guys.
I knew you were beating men.
This is why I'm crazy.
I remember from a young age, my dad always believed in me.
It was so proud of me, which brought its own issues.
But once some kid was like, said he was fast,
and my dad goes, race her.
He would make me race other boys in the school.
Like that's, and at the time, that was just my life.
That was my normal.
So I'd be racing another boy and I'd
win and then he'd be like, yeah, my daughter just
kicked your boys ass.
But that's so funny.
He had me racing random kids.
He's taking bets on this.
He's like 24-21-21, 24-21 with his brother right there.
I don't talk about this because I like to protect him,
but my brother's actually a star.
He just didn't want the limelight.
But he was always the cute one, the charming one.
And I was like, oh, gosh, yeah.
So this is so Brooklyn, but we were playing in the yard
and a gap model scout.
Yeah, was like looking for cute kids.
You know how this is?
We would have been picked immediately.
They see my brother who's like, blue-eyed, gorgeous,
like not too hyper.
That's what it was.
It was the kids that knew how to shut the fuck off
is who got picked.
Well, that makes me feel better, but my mom is talking
to my dad, like, oh, Daniel got picked.
And I'm like, did I get picked?
Yeah.
She couldn't enter her heart of hearts.
Tell me, I didn't get picked.
So she lied to me, said I got picked.
They let me wait in the line for photos.
How sad is that?
And then I came up and I was like, what's up guys?
And they were like, get your daughter off the spot.
Okay, but what a good example of like
amazing parenting on your mom's part.
Like, you didn't know.
I didn't know what I didn't know.
Yeah, you didn't know that you weren't picked,
because she literally had to be like,
hey, cast and director, can my ugly daughter
just like stand in the line and like, she won't know.
Yeah.
And I was clearly chatty, Kathy, talking everyone,
causing disruption and my brother,
and my brother, he didn't want the stardom,
but everyone wanted him.
Yeah.
And I was just in the background racing random people.
I never knew rejection either.
Like, when I did that at model, like I,
my mom never told me if I didn't get something.
She'd be like, they canceled it.
They'd be like, well, she goes modeling like over.
Yeah, she'd be like, you get to go to your Girl Scout meeting
because they canceled it.
And I'd be like, amazing.
Like, I didn't know.
It's good for kids to have adversity,
but it's bad for them to just like get their confidence hurt
for like a stupid reason, like an agent,
liking a blonde better than you.
Here's the other thing.
This just made me think of it with the Taylor Frankie Paul thing.
People are like, so going against her.
And rightfully so, because they're like,
there was a child in the video.
So the adult that leaked the video also has a child
with this woman.
So him leaking that video, he didn't,
doesn't give a fuck what damage is done to that little girl.
Now that that video is out for the rest of her life.
And I hope that they can fucking heal.
And I hope that they can be okay.
I think they should air the bachelor at.
Yeah, I mean, I don't get why they wouldn't.
Well, also when they started this,
it was because she went on TikTok
and was telling everyone that all her friends
are fucking each other's husbands.
Like, let's just remember where it started.
It wasn't her being like,
she's always been doing things that are.
The first episode of the entire show is her getting arrested,
like for domestic violence.
People have showed me like,
there's been so many physical altercations on reality TV
that everyone just kind of was like, that's iconic.
Like Ron, Ronnie and Sammy would beat the shit out of each other.
So many physical altercations that also happened.
That band apart air.
There's been, oh yeah.
And then they're like, this can air.
But like, that happened.
You just see people's reactions.
But a woman will get more in trouble for something she said
than a man will for something he did.
And a woman can say the same thing that a man said
and be more in trouble.
Are you kidding?
100% verbatim.
verbatim.
verbatim.
A lot of like nice boyfriends have been coming to my shows lately.
That's nice.
Like, they want to be made fun of.
Yeah.
They are getting tickets for the girls.
They're coming together.
Like, there's gigglers have been finding good partners.
I believe.
I mean, giggly squad shows remember like,
whenever we pick on a guy, we're always like,
yeah, we're like, actually, this one was boring
because you're so nice.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Well, anyway.
I ordered Hannah's Duncan today for a hitter.
Why'd you get me a juicy peach?
Because because that's your nickname for me.
Yeah.
OK.
Hannah, literally, I saw a juicy peach and I was like, that's Hannah.
And then I saw glam berry and I was like, that's me.
That's your aura.
That's our oras.
You guys, thank you for giggling with us.
I'm in Ohio all weekend.
So check that and Salt Lake City.
So I'll, if any Mormons, oh, thank you, Duncan,
for sponsoring this episode and keeping us hydrated.
Bye.
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