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Modest Bizzellus with 41 for the Chicago Bulls in today's game.

He obviously, the hero for Chicago, a hero that they probably didn't want or need.

I mean, this is a team that's tagging that's not necessarily trying to win.

They fought until the final whistle, the Warriors meanwhile.

Little Richard Fought, LJ Cryer Fought, Kristav Porzinga's Fought, there were certain players

that when they checked out, specifically, and sorry to me, we're losing Chuck.

I have a feeling that was going to be either Brandon Pajemski or Dremon Green that we were

going to come down hard on right at the beginning.

Multiple choice, Colski.

It was Brandon Pajemski who we're going after today.

And we've gone after him, not much, Frank.

Don't we me on that.

Well, he's been good for the most part the last week or two.

And the statistics today, if you're just looking at the box score, whatever, 9.7 assists,

just a couple of turnovers, it was more so though.

You can point to a direct correlation that whenever he went to the bench, the Warriors

just kept going on like these 18 to runs, but let's not make it a pod's bass session

on today's show.

Let's just make it a why the heck are we only seeing 21 minutes of cryer and he goes

for 17 points.

Why in the heck was Will Richard taken out of this game at all with him diving all over

the floor, giving you knee scrapes and everything?

This was just a game that is inexcusable at this stage in the season.

It drops you to below 500.

And frankly, I'm angry, Colski.

I'm angry that you lose that game.

Yeah, it's a terrible loss.

Terrible.

Terrible.

Can I get around it being a terrible loss?

And sure, I mean, look, you can look at the plus minuses and say, ah, dream on and

Pajemski were terrible and look how good LJ cryer and Pat frickin Spencer were, but what

that misses is that the Chicago Bulls had eight players that the coach was willing to

end able to play tonight.

And that, you know, for end in Pajemski and dream on green got the best minutes of the

best of those players.

And Pat Spencer did not and look at I'm with you on Will Richard, I'm with you on LJ cryer.

I don't know why Gary Peyton doesn't play more on a night like tonight the way he was

playing, but I really, I got to say, I don't know what's, I don't know what the plan is

a lot of the time here.

And like Pat Spencer played 30 minutes and look, he was really good by Pat Spencer standards

tonight.

17 points.

What do you have?

Six assists.

Yeah, six assists.

And the key for him is only one turnover.

He was phenomenal, Colski.

He was phenomenal.

It took him 16 shots in 30 minutes to get to the 17 points in a fish and seven to 16.

He was a lot of 13 a team high.

What do you mean that's not efficient?

Seven of 16 is not efficient.

That's plenty of fish and I mean, what's the is that 44% I don't know offhand what

percent it is.

That sounds a little high, but it's not efficient.

Efficient is 50%.

For a guard, yes, yes, yes, for something to, to be remarkable in terms of its worth

remarking on for efficiency, yeah, 50% is an efficient night for a guard.

Leonard Miller was eight for 16 tonight.

He also had 17 points.

And I would argue even that like 16 points to get 17 shots is, is fine.

And again, by Pat Spencer standards.

In terms of his ability, he's awesome tonight.

He's a dog.

He cares.

He competes and it's not that I have any complaints about who Pat Spencer was tonight.

It's that I don't understand the purpose of that.

I don't understand the purpose of 30 minutes of Pat Spencer, especially when it doesn't

get you anything against the team like the Chicago Bulls.

And I would rather see branded pyjemsky, who whatever people want to say, it has a much

better chance of being a worthwhile part of the warrior's future than Pat Spencer does.

I'd rather see pyjemsky struggle than Spencer play well in a loss.

I mean, it really doesn't make sense to me from a standpoint of what are you attempting

to accomplish down the stretch to be playing Pat Spencer 30 minutes and LJ Cryer 20 and

pyjemsky, you know, 27 minutes is fine, but there's more minutes out there for him.

I see what you're saying.

I want to see Nate Williams.

Let's find out if Nate Williams can be a budget solution for the back end of the roster

next season.

Let's see if LJ Cryer can be a third string point guard for a team that you hope can

compete next season, right?

I like it and horror and porzingis out there, but give me all of the pyjemsky, even if he's

stinking right now, everybody stinks.

The team stinks.

Colski.

He was a turn style.

Modus Pizellus was abusing him for his own good.

He needed to sit on the bench.

He even knew it.

He put on the warmup shirt with four minutes left.

He didn't think he was getting back in there and Steve Kerr puts him in there in the

final moments and he's sitting in there and over time.

Steve, but there is no J Cryer.

Why is LJ Cryer playing 21 minutes when he goes for 17 points?

He was electric out there.

He was a plus 18 at this point against the Chicago Bulls when essentially you're playing

for a nine or a 10 seed.

We all know it.

Give the guy some more minutes.

Yes, but that's my whole point.

It's not just pyjemsky.

It's everyone, every single person down to malify liones on this roster should be playing

over Pat Spencer and instead Spencer's playing 30 coast, this isn't a Spencer issue.

And today it is.

It is.

It's not a spit.

Pat Spencer's not the reason you lost today.

That's not the point.

The point is you're losing your team stinks and every night pretty much you're going out

with less talent than your opponent.

That's going to be true as long as Steph Curry's on the bench.

And as long as that's true, trying to squeeze 30 minutes of value out of a 29 year old never

was is one of the most insane things I've ever seen.

It makes no sense.

And whether that's Cryer or Williams or Gary Payton, Gary Payton the second has a better

chance of being worthwhile to the Warriors future than Pat Spencer does.

So you're right.

It's really about what can we get from Cryer?

What can we get from the Nate Williams is of the world?

What can we see from Porzingus?

It's not about Pat Spencer not being good because again, he had one of his better games tonight.

Okay.

I'm talking about a guy who's probably not going to have very many better games in his

whole career than 17 points in a terrible loss to the Chicago Bulls.

So I don't understand what the purpose of playing that guy is.

And I wish that that it felt like there was a coherent thought towards what really matters

to this franchise right now.

And it sure isn't I mean, honestly, it's not even 30 minutes of dream on green.

You don't need that either.

You know, if Steph comes back and you want to squeeze into the eight seed instead of the

nine seed, by all means, run these guys out there.

And if you need 15 minutes of Pat Spencer to be a solid ball handler, I get it then.

Then I get it.

But right now, it's crazy to me.

Yeah.

Now I get it.

To me, lumping in Nate Williams and Leon's with LJ Cryer, I think is a disservice to

Cryer.

He's the only one I'm talking about specifically to where it's like we need more of Cryer.

I'm not pointing at Spencer, whatever Spencer and Williams to me.

I mean, you look at the minutes disparage, okay.

And that's like, okay, why are we playing Spencer 30?

Why are we playing Nate Williams 11?

And the answer is because Spencer had the hot hand.

He was putting the ball in the basket.

Sure.

44% isn't that efficient, but guess what the team shot in the game 42.

So he shot above the team average.

He wasn't bad by any means.

Spencer had six assists to one turnover.

He was a team high plus 19.

We're not pointing to Pat Spencer, Colski.

We're not having it today.

In fact, I texted you.

Halfway through.

I said, this is a Pat Spencer.

I am that MFR FU Colski game.

That's it's fun.

I honestly couldn't care less if you and everybody feels that way.

But it's a total misrepresentation of how I feel about Pat Spencer.

None of this is about Pat Spencer.

None of this is about Pat Spencer's accomplishments this season, which by any reasonable measure

are remarkable.

He's the best lacrosse player of all time, according to people.

You know, I'll take their word for it.

For him to be in the NBA at all, much less having his I am that MFR moments, it's remarkable.

I hate that I'm in a position to crap on up on that story, but it's not the story

that I'm cracking on.

It's everyone.

It's not just Pat.

It's everyone.

Like you're talking about Leon's and Nate Williams, like they're that much better than

Pat Spencer.

No.

They're that much more likely to be a part of the Warriors future.

And Nate.

Yeah, which is nothing.

That's the only thing that should matter right now.

The only guy that I've seen on this bench, aside from Porzinga's and Peyton, you know,

that I'm looking at and saying, okay, that guy is something to work with there.

Spencer's a two way guy, maybe the 15 guy on the roster, whatever, Leon's, no, Nate Williams,

no, like we haven't seen anything of those two guys, Chuck, right?

But again, my point is not that Nate Williams is going to be good.

My point is that we know exactly what Pat Spencer is.

And I don't know what you get out of 30 more minutes of it on a night like tonight.

And my point, Colski is where I started off.

You need more from Brandon Pajewski and the team was better when he wasn't on the floor

and that is a problem.

That is a problem.

It's not this way every night.

And that's the issue with this team.

It's inconsistencies.

The lineups, if they're predetermined, which it always sounds like it is in the NBA,

they got the cards.

They know what they're doing to a certain degree.

They don't always go with the flow of the game.

It was very clear.

In fact, I have the statistics up to back it up.

A 15 to run is soon as they took out pods in the third quarter and cryer and Pat entered.

Then immediately pods drain on in the other lineup reenters.

And sure, so does Josh Gidey that makes a difference, but it's an immediate 10 to bull's

run.

New lineup comes in.

Pods goes out 24, four warriors lineup, Billy Donovan's not even calling a timeout.

It just felt like the bulls are in tank mode right there.

He's just chilling.

Is Billy Donovan?

He can't get fired at this point.

The team's so damn bad.

And then all the sudden, the team that had lost 16 of 19, the Chicago Bulls, they stormed

back and they win.

Kulski, we got to get into how the bulls won this game.

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So late in the game and I'm talking very late, 140 to go warriors have a five point lead,

three miss shots at the basket, which would have given them full control moments later,

he Santos fouls when the warriors were up three with seven seconds to go.

And sure the balls could have hit a shot, sent the game into overtime that way.

Instead, it goes free throws the other way.

Chicago hits them, warriors get fouled, LJ Cryer splits the pair.

Then on the other side, Dremon green, Bowser shooter with a second to go in the game.

First of all, the call.

What did you think of it?

Steve Kirk clearly not happy with the officiating today.

We got a hot mic.

We had him john and the lady, oh, baby, it was, it was spicy and chased tonight.

He actually said in post game that he thought the Dremon call was a good one.

And I couldn't disagree more than that.

I thought it was a trash call.

I think, you know, 90s players are rolling over in their graves to think that that call

would happen in the moment of a fourth quarter that it did that being said, get your hands

off him.

Smith and he's shooting a fade away three pointer, like let it happen.

So, you know, not a great play by Dremon, not a great call would be my take on that situation

as a whole.

How did the game, how do the warriors blow it of what eight point lead in 90 seconds

or something like that?

I think it's pretty straightforward, you know, a bad turnover, a missed free throw.

A bad foul.

There you have it.

Well, yeah, Horford, I mean, that was really all those mislapes around one possession.

I feel like so I can't leave that didn't go and they were all the same miss every single

one of them.

I know.

Some of that is just bum luck.

Others are losing sleep over a loss to the bulls, but it was just one of those games

where you had no business losing to A, the team and B, just the way it went down the

stretch.

Honestly, you should have lost with about, you know, 10 minutes to go, but you fought

back.

You had certain players that gave you really good energy, and you should have won.

And instead, you lost to a team that had lost 16 of 19.

That's brutal.

Yeah.

I mean, listen, I think, you know, the thing we haven't talked about here,

that probably was the biggest factor was defense in the second quarter of this game.

I mean, they were, the bulls were getting, and it particularly booze out of us, but the

bulls in general were getting anything they wanted for a lot of this basketball game.

And, you know, you mentioned, Pajewski got blown by a few times, but, you know, that's

just, it's tough right now.

They just don't have the talent on a night tonight basis, and, you know, the most talented

guy you put out there tonight is on a 20 minute limit.

And honestly, maybe that's what we should start talking about, because would you think

of him, though?

Poor Zingas, 17 points, 513, 4 rebounds, hit a couple of threes, hit all his free throws.

Would you think of Chris Depp's gave four blocks to his jumper is rusty for obvious reasons,

right?

And then I'll combine for eight blocks in the game today.

Poor Zingas is awesome.

And exactly what the warriors need when healthy.

Now don't start yelling at me, because I'm not his doctor, and I'm not telling you he's

going to be healthy, but there's just no question.

I mean, we've seen what, like, an hour of him on the basketball floor in a warrior's

uniform.

If that was this is third game, is that right?

We've seen an hour of him playing for the warriors.

And although he looks rusty, he still moves incredible for a man of his size, his jumper.

Dude, it's just a little flick of the wrist, and it's, it's a quick release, and it's

pretty good.

Yeah.

And yeah, it's rusty.

His legs aren't quite there.

Again, as you would expect, how about our plan more, not how, how about Chris stabs

playing more than Kaminga has on the hawks thus far?

That wasn't on my bingo card early.

Yeah, I think it's probably still less minutes, but similar number of games.

Yeah, you know, we'll see.

Oh, is it?

No.

We'll see how that plays out over time.

But I think unfortunately for both teams, they're pretty close in minutes played, and

the point is neither of them has played much.

So on both sides of that trade, the team is really hoping to get the player on the floor

more often, moving forward for the rest of the season because I think the hawks with

Kaminga are in a very similar situation of just like, we'd like to see an extended

run of this guy before we make any decisions this off season because they're like seeing

an extended run of just this team in general.

I mean, all season, even when Jimmy and Steph were healthy, there was our whorford load

management.

There was no Anthony Melton.

I mean, this entire season, it wasn't always like this growing up, Colski.

I remember turning on a random Blazers game, and you knew you were going to get sheed

Wallace and Bonzi Wells and Damon Stottomire.

I don't know why I'm using them as an example, but I'm just saying in general, you knew you

were going to get consistent lineups and to be watching a team that you knew.

And in today's game, it feels like every single contest is so different in its frustrating.

And the result is different.

I mean, how do you beat Denver and you go up strong against OKC and some of the other games

that they've had the last few weeks where they've won good games and then lose to Chicago

and Utah and New Orleans in a week span, two weeks span.

OK, those are two entirely separate issues.

So let me address the first one first.

They are definitely entirely different, but they bleed in together and I have a headache.

No, no, I don't think it's from the game.

That's not a criticism.

I think they're both interesting questions, but the first one, I think I want to address

because it is, to me, the one of the biggest fallacies about NBA basketball right now.

I'm glad you picked that Portland team, OK, because sure, that sounds right.

You could see those guys night in night out.

Let's see.

She'd had one injury plate season, just just bear with me.

She'd had an injury plate season, 98, 99, otherwise 77 plus games, every year after he established

himself with the Blazers, Damon Stodemire, again, injury here or there, but mostly with

Portland, 78, 82, 75, 82, 81, Bonzi Wells.

Portland was the place he played the most games, three straight, four straight seasons of

70 plus games.

Yeah, guys played all the time in the 90s.

Wasn't it awesome?

Damon Stodemire stunk by the time he was 33 and was out of league by the time he was

35.

Good.

Bonzi Wells stunk by the time he was 30 and was out of the league by the time he was 32.

But she'd Wallace was incredible in his early 30s with Detroit by 35.

He was in Boston, couldn't move anymore, retired the following season.

That's why that's the difference.

The difference is these guys who are all stars when they're on the floor would be retired.

So I'm so sick of listening to that nonsense.

Not that you were doing this, but like that's a fair point.

This idea of like, oh, it was so much better back then.

Sure.

If you wanted guys careers to be much shorter.

If you wanted Steph Curry to at this point, be what Seth Curry is instead of one of the

five or six best players in the league when he's healthy, then yeah, that would be great.

But I prefer it this way.

And I bet Steph Curry does too.

All right.

We will continue with the conversation.

What's ahead for the Warriors truly?

What now?

That's what we're asking straight ahead.

I'm locked on Dubs.

Who can stop Steph Curry?

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All right, what next for the dubs?

Let's pull up the schedule.

See who they got.

I mean, at this point, I said, you fall below.

I said to 32 and 33, I believe when I kind of discuss the hypothetical of whether the

warriors would just decide to potentially shut it down if they fell below 500 and well,

well, hold on, because that plays into part two of what you mentioned earlier, which we

didn't get to yet, which we haven't, you're right, right?

Which is you may have had 32 and 33, but I bet you had most of the wins and losses wrong.

Yeah, I would have taken a loss against Houston, a loss against Denver and switched that over

with a win against Chicago and a win against probably New Orleans.

I thought you, I mean, you beat him like four times on the road and altitude.

I thought that one probably would have been tough, but right.

But I mean, the point is it is weird and honestly, to be totally honest with you, that to

me brings it all back to why even though it's kind of counterintuitive, I'd rather see

Brandon Pajewski out there for the extra 10 minutes tonight, even if he's stinking the

join up, because I think it serves Brandon Pajewski in the long term to play like he knows

he's getting 35 minutes a night, no matter what.

And frankly, he should on this roster be getting 35 minutes a night every night.

And again, I can understand Steve Kerr's perspective when Steph Curry is there, right?

As long as Steph Curry's here, we're competitive, we can win, we're going to try to win every

minute of every game.

I'm going to do the best I can to put the best players out every given night and every

given matchup fine.

That's not who this team is right now.

This team is a team that a is a threat to lose to anyone any night until Steph Curry gets

back clearly and B is in a really kind of precarious position for not just the future

after Steph Curry, but the future with Steph Curry and getting Brandon Pajewski and

or LJ Cryer and or Will Richard in spots where, you know, they're at their most confident

playing their best to see if they can help to me, that's just critical right now.

And I wish that I saw a commitment to that, particularly when Steph Curry's out.

We lost Chuck again and boy, the way that he threw his hands on his head in frustration

as he disappeared makes me wonder if he did it on purpose.

That being said, I think it is depressing right now.

I'm not sure there's any way to cast it as anything else, you know, Gees Santos, Pat Spencer,

LJ Cryer, Christophe Persinguist, all your leading scorers tonight.

And all of them had 17 points.

And certainly not what you're looking for when you're playing against the team that

definitely is not trying to win in the Chicago Bulls that only had eight available players

tonight.

Well, nine if you count Yuki, but sadly, the head coach doesn't want to play Yuki.

If you know, you know, but I mean, the bulls are tanking with their injury list alone,

not to mention all the trades that they made and that's two games against tanking teams

on back to back nights that you lose to fall under 500 and I think because it's so depressing

right now.

I do understand warrior fans who were saying things like trade pods, you got to get

a dream on data here, you know, this team is done forever.

You got a tank, tank, tank, tank, but, but you just don't have any options.

You know, you're not getting out of the play in either direction at this point.

The Warriors are seven games ahead.

I'm sorry, seven games behind the six seed and they are actually eight and a half ahead

of the 11 seed.

Oh, they're not going to, you know, will they fall behind Portland into 10 maybe will

they jump the clippers again to get into eight also possible, depending mostly I would

say on whether Steph Curry comes back.

But if Steph Curry is healthy and wants to play, you can't tell him no.

And if that's the case, you you're going to be competitive in the plans, whether you

like it or not.

So you're probably not getting into the lottery, no matter how much you lose over the

next, whatever it is.

Colesky hot games, 17 games, Colesky hot take, and I don't think it's that hot.

You're not jumping the clippers with or with a step.

Yeah, I like some of the moves now.

Yeah, I mean, look, the clippers aren't any great shakes, but they're certainly playing

an awful lot better than the Warriors are right now playing a lot better for two months.

Yeah, I'm not saying I would like the Warriors to win a play in game.

I haven't looked at the schedules like if Steph Curry's healthy and porzingus is on the

floor, I would I would stack up the Warriors with the clippers pretty evenly.

So I don't know.

That being said, Steph Curry's not on the floor, Kawaii Leonard is as is Darius Garland.

And that makes the clippers a better team right now.

That's for sure.

All right, Colesky.

This is a, this has been exhausting this week, being the Warriors fan has been exhausting

the last week.

I'm tired as hell, and it's not going to get any easier Minnesota is up on Friday.

Hey, you know what?

They just got their butts kicked by the Lakers, Minnesota has been scrapping lately.

So maybe you catch a break there.

You know what the good news is.

We have Washington coming up on Monday and Washington just allowed BAM at a bio to score 83

points.

In case you haven't heard BAM at a bio, BAM at a bio whose previous career high was 41.

Just dropped 83 points in a game to become the second highest score in a long game in

NBA history behind Wilk Chamberlain's 100.

He passes Kobe Bryant's 81.

I almost wrecked my car, almost wrecked my car driving through East Bay today.

When Choms dropped that couple hours ago, I almost wrecked my car.

Yeah, man.

I thought it was a burner for a second.

There are some dudes in the NBA where, where, listen, if someone was like, Hey, someone's

going to break Kobe's 82 point, you know, second highest scoring game of all time tomorrow.

Who do you think it's going to be?

There are some dudes that I would sincerely make a guess at like, you know what he could

do it.

But Anthony Edwards probably at the top of that list right now with Steph Curry hurt

anyway.

Maybe Yannis in the right circumstances.

Do you know how far I'd go before I got to I would probably guess Cam Thomas before

I got to like 50 Colesky, I would have just pulled up the United States Olympic roster

and then I would have seen BAM and I would have been like, okay, we'll go at BAM at 65.

Yeah, but that's 50.

It's unbelievable and I don't care if people want to crap on him for shooting 43 free

throws.

I don't care.

I want to crap on him for sure.

It's not his problem.

It's not anyone's fault.

But God bless.

Imagine being in that stadium, watching the dude get to the line 43 times.

Was it in Miami?

Oh, good question.

I was it in Washington because that makes difference for me.

If it was watching obviously, imagine being a wizard's fan as arts fan and staying until

the end.

Watching BAM at a buyout, you look at your buddy and you're like, hey, man, we've been

having a lot of beers.

BAM's been to the line a lot and he's like, yeah, he's got 80 points, dude.

I don't know if anybody that was in Miami.

I don't know that any wizards fans stayed till the end.

Let's just put it that way.

It was not a close game.

But listen, I don't care how many free throws you shoot.

I don't care.

I mean, he was under 50% from the field.

He shot at 40 times from the field too.

It doesn't matter.

83 is too incredible to crap on in any way.

I'm sorry.

That's insane.

There's a reason one guy had ever scored more than that in the history of basketball.

It's high school numbers and it's an incredible thing to have done.

Even if it doesn't make BAM out of bio, one of the 10 best players in the league, it's

an unbelievable accomplishment.

And BAM's good.

Don't get me wrong.

I would compare him to like a, a Mari Stodomyer in terms of what they do on the NBA better.

Well, different, you know, well, he's going to live on more than a Mari 100 years from

now now.

Yeah.

For sure.

Yeah.

But also ironically, Mari was the much better offensive player and BAM is a better defender.

So they're just different players, but yeah, I mean, maybe before this, maybe level of

accomplishment was similar before this.

But very different players, you know, BAM to me is like a taller, longer, better scoring

Dremond, you know, I mean, not quite the defender Dremond is, but has some natural advantages

with his height and, you know, ability to block more shots, probably a slightly better

rebounder.

Like, he's a, he's a great player.

He's a multiple all star.

I'm fairly certain, but not a guy I would have expected to have the 83.9.

So good for him.

All right.

Colesky burn the tape, warriors lose at home to the Chicago Bulls after losing to the

Utah Jazz the night before.

Get some rest, dubs.

I sure as hell need it.

See you.

Don't we all, man, got to go to sleep.

You just got to go to sleep, bring up on Friday.