Govern America with Darren Weeks and Vicky Davis, September 12, 2026 Hour 2

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5:17Welcome back to the broadcast. This is our number two of the show. It continues to be the 12th of September 2026. As we continue on here, Vicki, do you have anything to add before we go to the phones? No, go ahead. You're welcome to call hand folks if you want 610, 617, 767, 610, 617, 767, or toll free, 844, 646, 837, 6. Lots, lots going on. But we would like to hear from you as well. We're all propagandized on every front. And it's very concerning when we realize that all of our lives we've had nothing but lies told and sorting through those lies has become very, very difficult, especially in the age of AI where videos can be orchestrated. I really believe that the likelihood is there that AI was a reality and very well developed long

6:21before it was ever released to the public. That surprised me a bit. It calls into question if, in fact, that is true. Because it seems to be like AI is just about come out of nowhere. I know it's been developed and they had the language models and that sort of thing. But it seems like its evolution has been revealed very rapidly to the point. I mean, it's just amazing how it was just a few years ago wasn't a thing that anybody even thought of or even was aware of. None of a sudden, it smacked you in the face and now they're saying it could be killing people within a few years. One of the high ranking officials that were involved with, I think it was anthropic. Yeah, here it is. Anthropic. This is from Axios. Anthropic insiders warn AI could kill all humans. There's a comforting thought, isn't it? Throne hasn't that been the objective

7:28population reduction? Yeah, exactly. And there was a situation that happened not too long ago where they were testing these AI models and the AI models were not supposed to have internet access and they supposedly broke out of the sandbox and onto the open internet and started attacking a company. And that was, I think, I don't know if that was anthropic models, seems like it was. And then also other companies like Facebook went and checked theirs and they realized that theirs had broken loose too. So these things aren't supposed to be sentient yet they're sure acting sentient. And so we're led to believe that the people that are orchestrating all of this can't control their own models. Yeah, I don't really believe the concept of sentience. If they're doing

8:37it, it's doing that because it's programmed to do it. Yeah. Because it's just computer code, that's all it is. Yeah, that's all it is. But unless it can write its own computer code, it's a question. I'm not, see, I don't know how these things work. And apparently the people that wrote them don't apparently know how they work either. So anyway, let's go to the phones. Take a call from Georgia first. Hello, you're on the air. Go ahead, please. Hey guys. Yeah, I want to kind of go a little bit where Vicki was talking a little while ago about the Pentagon and the missile. First of all, you have to look at the building. Immediately afterwards, what we saw and I saw the pictures was a whole of approximately 16 feet in diameter. It punched three rings deep into the building. Now, this could not have been a

9:42757 of the 200 series, primarily a 223, which is what flight 77 was. Because if you look at the dimensions of this plane, you're talking about packing in 155 feet of plane. That's the length from nose to tail. 155 feet long, 124 foot wingspan with the engines approximately 30 foot apart. And a tail section that was 44 feet high. So the question is, how do you pack all of this into that one little hole, leaving no marks on the outer part of the building where the wings or the engines would have impacted, leaving no damage to the roof where the tail would have impacted. Because the roof didn't collapse until much later and fires had burned for a while.

10:42So when you look at the pictures immediately afterward, all you see is a 16-foot hole. No damage to the outer walls, no damage to the windows where the wings and the engines would have struck and no damage to the roof where the tail would have struck. So what could it have been? What could create a 16-foot hole that would punch that deep into the Pentagon, especially after it had just been renovated to withstand an attack? Yeah, and I remember they had talked about the security. Securecom was a company that was a bush-connected company that was evidently controlled security for the World Trade Center, but also United Airlines and Delus Airport. So we're looking at, we now have to look at the potential of a missile. This is where I believe the truth lies. We go to Russ Wittenberg, who was a former Air Force pilot and a commercial

11:43airline's pilot, who stated clearly, quote, flight 77 could not have possibly flown at those speeds. We're talking 530, 530 mile an hour, making a 330-degree turn, descending 7,000 feet in two and a half minutes, which they said it did without going into a speed stall, which means the engines stall out, and the plane won't go that fast when you start pulling those G and high-dune maneuvers. That plane would have fallen out of the sky. So that eliminates a Boeing 757-223. Now we go to Daniel, Daniel, Daniel O'Brien, who was Air Traffic Controller at Delus International, who said, quote, the speed, the maneuverability, and the way he turned, we all thought those of us who experienced Air Traffic controllers, that was a military plane. This would explain the high-ge, the high-ge maneuver's making a 330-degree turn at 530 mile an hour, or 30 mile an hour,

12:50able to make those kind of Gs and withstand it, and delivering a missile to the building. Yeah. That's where I believe the truth lies. It was not a plane. Look at the video. It does not show this big 155-foot-long, 44-foot-high, anything. It's a short, probably roughly 30, 35-feet-long, white, small, streak. That's clearly a missile. The only way you can deliver a missile is using a military-grade fighter jet. The only way it's possible. Yeah. The other thing, though, I will say, and then that would inevitably bring up the question, what happened to the flights, the real flights? Because there are people that say there's no planes, and maybe they weren't used in the attacks. But the point is, is that I know for a fact that at

13:55least one person that I know, that I knew personally at the time, had his aunt aboard one of those flight flights, and she went missing at that time. It makes you wonder what happened to the people who were on board the flight numbers, because I can tell you from the least, and I'll tell you who it was, Brad Edwards was a reporter that I worked with at a CBS affiliate station back when this all happened. I remember I talked to Brad. He was a really nice guy, and his aunt, I think it was Flight 77, the one that wasn't that the one that crashed out in the field, allegedly. That was Flight 93 over me. Okay, maybe it was 93 she was on. But anyway, she went missing after that, and I remember Brad's reports, he had to report on 9-11 and everything after that, and his reports were very emotional because of his attachment to the story. In fact, one of his reports, I remember

15:01very vividly, had our news anchor, Sherry Jones in tears. She got so absorbed in it, and they took back to her on the camera, and she was very visibly moved to the point where she couldn't talk. Brad Edwards, his aunt went missing, and presumably has never returned, certainly not at that time, and years passed and never heard anything from her again. So these people apparently did die somewhere, somehow. So the question is what happened to them. And this is just, I guess our whole purpose in doing this, talking about this so many years later, these are things that have never been resolved. There are so many questions. I'm not going to get so attached to one theory

16:03that I forsake all other theories that are plausible. And so I get, because you can't, if you're really on the side of truth, you have to ask questions and be open to answers that you're not expecting or are familiar with. But I would like to know what happened to Brad Edwards, Aunt. I think her name was Mary. Mary Edwards. But, so anyway, that's what I have to say about the missing planes. I have every reason to believe that, you know, especially at the Pentagon, that there wasn't a real plane. And there are many people at the World Trade Center, who think just like you do art, and I'm not for or against that train of thought. I just know that there are some people that went missing. So I believe people really died somewhere. It could very well be that they landed them somewhere else and did them in.

17:07Who knows? But this is just, it could be living in another country somewhere under assumed identities. Well, it's possible. There'd be a whole lot of possible. Anything is possible. There's a whole lot of people, though, that would have been forced. You just don't even want to almost speculate at what really could happen. But the one thing we're clear on is we're not getting answers. The, the, the, the, the correct answers. That's true. And I don't think we ever will. Anyway, I could, I could go on for hours about this whole September 11 thing. I did probably about a year worth of research or two years worth of research. And then I spent probably three months compiling a document that I've saved all these years on everything I learned about September 11. So whenever I talk about it, I go directly to this article or this document that I've created.

18:09And that's where all my information is. But like I said, I could go for hours on this conversation. But I'm sure you got other things to get to. So I will leave it at that. And don't have a great day. All right. Thank you, Art. Appreciate you, Carl. Yep. Very concerning. Yeah, I mean, who, who placed the put options on the airlines and the days before September 11, 2001? One of them was John Karyaku. He admits that he knew about it ahead of time to, to, to buy options. Oh, really? I didn't hear Karyaku say that. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was him who admitted that he made money on it. Interesting. Well, he's been recently taught, become a critic of the CIA. He's been involved in, he was for a while hosted a show on art, Russian radio.

19:11It's but neck, I think it was. But yeah, it's interesting. I hadn't heard Karyaku say that. Say that. Anyway, let's go back to the following 610, 617, 76. You want to call in? Have anything to add? 844, 646, 8376 is the toll free number. 8446, govern. That's 844, 646, 8376. And up next is New Orleans, Louisiana. Hello, you're on the air. Go ahead, please. Hi, Mr. Darin, Mr. Vicki. I don't know if I had much. You guys are really good. In the call, the call is covering the basis. That speculation of the people that went missing. And I'm not mentioning the competition, you just like rent radio. It's the John Wells, the Karev anime. And I think you guys and in other things, I don't think we knew what we thought about. Because you took people, they were not, I was obviously didn't not totally in the know, but over time. And you had to 9-1-1 truth.orgher.com, those engineers. There was a 10-hour video that might be on their website.

20:19You guys get a chance to, but I mean, it's like you're, and you guys rock. You're doing your homework. And we need this rehash from time to time. Because memories grow short in the year or two. And so you'll be back to where you have to do another jatacuzzi sort of speak. And my thinking is just like the Malaysian boys remember, or later they would have over the Pacific, once above the shutdown gone from Holland to back to Malaysia and a Russian plane they use that as I think, a ploy. And it was a third Malaysian plane somewhere along the line back in the Pacific. I don't think they ever found debris. And it would always remote control. And it could have gone to a secret air. Because I heard that there were secret airports. And like you said, I believe they may have done these people. And the problem with maybe if they hit us soon, the identities were human over time. We may put blurred out things so they're not going to want that. I think what they would do,

21:20whether people were killed or not. And I believe they probably were done. And like you did, is that, to those early 40 years and now with most everybody, the usual suspects and the people that were affected, both those that had relatives or the people directly on those planes, then the truth that come out kind of like the 2026 supposed to be with the files or present in Canada. You have all the, you know, everybody involved is pretty much gone. And it's not going to put relies at risk if they were secret agents or whatever. Tell shut up and say thank you and listen again. No, I appreciate your call. Thank you so much. Yeah, absolutely. It's there's the, you mentioned the Kennedy thing. There's so many questions we have. And I look at the Charlie Kirk assassination very similar, very similarly. You know, there's so many questions there. And none of it will ever be answered with regard to the, are you going to say something, Vicki?

22:25No, go ahead. I'm listening. Yeah, with regard to 9-11, I mentioned the put options, but there's, there's the overall agenda, you know, you, we learned of this whole thing. George W. Bush continued sitting in a classroom with a book upside down, a children's book upside down, my pet goat, my pet goat, of all things. And he's, he's sitting there and they whisper in his ear. And it's very clear what they whispered in his ear. And he just continues to sit there. Because I did get a little big though, like a status update, like a step. Well, he was just staring into space, kind of just soaking it all in. And I'm not sure that they actually told George. Oh, I think he was, he was up to his eyeballs in it.

23:27I can pleatly think he was up to his eyeballs in it. I don't know. It was interesting that he flew to New Orleans. And then from New Orleans, then he went up to Nebraska where coincidentally Warren Buffett was sponsoring a golf tournament for CEOs. That wasn't that. Well, you keep in mind, too, the Bin Laden family were business partners with George W. Bush, the Bush's family, Bush family. Yeah, but I think it was more his dad than George George W. Yeah. And they plan. And again, you got to keep in mind, they plan the whole cotton pick and thing in advance. The Bush's and the Neocons around them were all a part of that project for the new American century. And they're writing the report, rebuilding America's defenses, which was published a full year before September 11th to the month. And laid out exactly what they

24:31wanted to accomplish in the war on terror. Only they didn't call it the war on terror. But what they want to do accomplish, all the regime changing they wanted to do. And they said in the report that we realize this is going to be impossible. Say for a new Pearl Harbor type of an event. So what are the odds that literally a year after they post that report. And they posted it before the before George W. Ever was elected president or before he became, you know, took office in other words. They posted it online and a year later, they'd get their new Pearl Harbor to facilitate exactly where in the words of George W. Bush at the time, I know exactly where I want to govern. It's exactly what he said. I think he was up to his eyeballs in it. In the planning, the orchestration, these people, one thing I've said over the years, these people don't think like we

25:37think. These people are evil. They have a different agenda. Their agenda was not for the American people. I'm not sure our government has ever functioned for the American people after World War 2. Yeah. Or maybe I guess you can think it was functioning before World War 2. Before World War 2. At the point in time when the United Nations was conceived and then the agreements were signed, I think the objective has always been world government. Yeah, I agree. I agree. And we're moving more and more closer to it. Because hey, Vicki, we need the United Nations or whatever global entity to rescue us from the scourge of war. Yeah, well, you know what? I've been reading from the socialist international website. It turns my stomach. It just turns, you know, it makes me sick.

26:45Yeah, I don't doubt that. Morris head can tucky. You're up next. I'll have to hold you over the break probably, but go ahead, please. Yeah, this is the target of town of Kim Davis, more head can tucky. I don't know where the S came from. But anyway, you guys should appreciate duck duck go. They will bring up your calling number whereas Google will not. Top in government America is one word. Government America calling number comes right up in duck duck go. And all these other variations come up to bury you guys. Even the calling numbers for RB in come up before your number does and Google doesn't surprise me. Zach Voorhees said everybody's research Zach Voorhees, hang on. I got. Yeah, all right. Yeah, hang on just a moment. We'll get back to you right after the break. Here as government America continues, we're already at the halfway point. Don't go away ladies and gentlemen much, much more to come.

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32:31And we're back. This is Governor America. The website for the show is GovernAmerica.com. That's GovernAmerica.com. My email address is radio at GovernAmerica.com. Vicki, you want to give your information out please? Yeah, my website is theTechnocraticTheronie.com. The older website is channelingreality.com and my email address is on both websites. Yeah, I just want to remind people also about the fact that we have on the website at 911.sweetliberty.org, which I'll put in the show notes as well. The 107th Congress first session 1998 on February 12, 1998, John J. Moreska, who vice president of International Relations for the Unical Corporation was testifying in front of the House of Representatives about the need to have a pipeline built through Afghanistan. And that is, in my opinion,

33:35a very damning piece of testimony because he was talking about how the Taliban government would have to go because banks in the surrounding countries wouldn't finance the project as long as the Taliban was an internationally recognized government there. So, that was just 1998 folks. A few years later, we all know what happened. Taliban government was, well, originally ousted. Of course, it's back there now. So we put it all right back in place, didn't we? Wonder if they got the pipeline built. Yeah, I wonder. Anyway, Mike is in Kentucky. Mike, go ahead with your thoughts, please. Well, I've heard lots of people including that guy that called in earlier, talking about how it's, quote, impossible for a plane to fit into the Pentagon. There's some, and I don't know where he gets the figures that because you can look up 757 cross section. The fuselage is 12 feet. It's not 16 feet.

34:40And you go look, I just, with a very quick search, I found a Los Angeles media outlet still has pictures up, including the partially, what would you say, sheared off generator trailers that the engine, one of the engines hit, enters even a appropriate size hole in the chain link fence where those, that section was under construction still. It was wedge one. It was been upgraded with bomb proof or bomb resistant windows and kevlar and stuff in the outer wall. And that's, that's in itself is interesting that the plane hit right or that section have been reinforced like it was a demonstration of how much more robust that that section was. Now, they ended up tearing that whole section back down and rebuilding it. You can find pictures of all this in the archives, the, the, the hole. You can find

35:44pictures that smoke initially would waft away. And some of the photographs showed the impact hole. And there's even a notch in the floor, the concrete of the floor for the third story. There's a notch in that concrete where the tail hit. And that tail just folded up. These airplanes are not as substantial as people would like to be led to believe. There's plenty of accident photos where these planes are in pieces where they actually try to control the crash. You know, they go down and pancake on the ground, stall out, and they break apart like, I don't know, something brittle like a pretzel. And then you can even demonstrate this yourself. Go try to cook yourself. And it'll wrap a baked potato all the way up in aluminum foil. If you're not careful, you get a, just a campfire too hot, you'll burn the aluminum foil, burn it through, burn it off that potato. I'm

36:45done it. Whatever you're cooking wrapped in aluminum foil, even I think, you know, if you get the grill down too close to the charcoal, aluminum is not a super substantial. And that's why they're building up aluminum. They want them to be as lightweight and fuel efficient as possible. And they're engineered to have a certain flight envelope. Now, since about 2015, the flight simulator GOFS, which was originally used for built on Google Earth, and they've since upgraded to better, what would you say, 3D modeling of the Earth? You can fly about any plane you want to. I would recommend starting with the FAA 18 Hornet. And within weeks, you can go switch the planes mid-flight. You can get your FAA 18 Hornet up to speed at say, 600 or 550 miles an hour, 510 knots, and then switch to a 757 and try

37:48to fly it that fast into the towers. I'm even attempted to do the flight around the 270-year E-Turrent FAAs in the Pentagon. It's very difficult. But I have a sneakins suspicion that could be done by computer. The problem is the speed. The drop of sound mode and the power for non-linear truth and some other organizations had to sue. And, you know, there were witnesses that claimed that there were flight boxes, voice data, and or flight data recorders that were found in the Rumble of 9-11. They saw them found. They saw them recovered, and we don't have them. But now the one in the Pentagon did not match up to either a United Airlines or a American Airlines software spreadsheet to aggregate the data. So they finally got a hold of a generic Boeing spreadsheet. And, long haul of this thing

38:50that was manufactured in 1993, supposedly, had a GPS operational, and there was no indication that the cabin door had ever been opened. Maybe a Honeyhounder or whoever the guy was, that supposedly was blind that he did supposedly have a commercial policy license and flight instructor said he couldn't fly at all in Florida, I think. But anyway, he may have been in the jump seat because you walk in, armed with proper ID and say, hey, I need to use your jump seat to get back to Boston or wherever, where the Los Angeles. And so maybe he was in the cockpit, and he had the knives there, jumped up and slipped their throats and pulled them out of the chair and got in the seat. But flying that profile is nearly impossible. I think these guys were yelling out of Akbar, and it was took over by computer, and they were so indoctrinated into Islam that they actually thought Allah was flying the plane. The speeds are the problem. Or maybe there was just no hijackers at all, and they just hijacked the plane.

39:53Yeah, I want to interject something in here. You just said that he learned to fly in Florida, which is what I heard when I first heard this story. I heard a guy a couple days ago say that it was in California where he learned to fly. Were those the terrorists waiting? Or no, maybe it was Arizona. Are you getting away from your mic, Vicki, because you're sounding very tanny now? Oh, sorry. There you are. That he was in Arizona or California. There was a flight school. There was about eight of those guys that were trained, I think. They had kind of backups and some of them weren't in Florida. The interesting thing about Florida is there was kind of a sister company to urban moving system and actually moved some of those

40:57terrorists in Florida. How about that? That's pretty interesting. What a coincidence. Yeah, they were shepherded. I believe these guys were patsys, and they were shepherded along and made to believe they could complete their mission. Then the computer hacking was done to ensure they hit the right targets. That's what I think happened. I believe the Israeli Mossad, the Israeli intelligence, was led to believe the Palestinians were going to be blamed for this. Then the Vulcans, as they were called, the Neocons through McCurve Ball and went after the other countries, Afghanistan and Iraq. That was their plan. They led the Mossad operatives, believe they were going to go after the Palestinians back then. It's very interesting that this news about Netanyahu is released. To be lost in the noise of the 25th anniversary.

41:57Of course, he's suing, according to the BBC, he is suing Ha'at. Ha'at is typically always been a liberal Jewish origination publication. Netanyahu is considered. There's some enmity there. What are you suing for defamation? I would say good luck with that. They stood down for hours and hours. This is the thing. You're talking about the course of October 7th thing. Just to make sure that listeners are following us. Netanyahu is being released now. It's a strategic loss in all the noise of not 11. You've got to wonder what else is getting lost in the noise of 9-11. Certainly the Iran War. What? There's a war in Iran? No. Exactly.

42:58You think about the Hamas and what was the other one that was created to compete with the Palestinian Liberation Organization? Hezbollah. Hezbollah, Hamas and one other one. I can't remember. They created these groups, just like the Southern and Poverty Law Center, got recently shunned by the FBI because it came out that they were infiltrating, creating and provoking militia movement groups and stuff and claim groups so that they could justify getting more donations. It's a joke that Timothy McVase, hanging out in the L.A. H.C. of three people, we're talking to them. More fads. Yeah, I believe that. I believe that's probably still the case with most militias today. Well, you know what, at Malher when Amin Bundy did that occupation there. After it was over, we found out that the majority of people there were fads.

44:00They were in the government. The surveillance state did not begin on 9-11. There you go. I started working in a local TV station in 1997 in March. By June or something that summer, I realized that what was going on with our business and at least three others. Eventually, I found out there was three or four other businesses who's facsimile software was being locked up on multiple different models of faxes. I happened to the ex-Army guy came in and put in some extensions on the line two, we called it, so that you could make an outgoing call when it wasn't receiving a fax. The dang thing would ring for 45 minutes and it wasn't my job to take care of the fax machine. The manager said, when you see this software locked up, I need to check on it and unplug and plug it back in. What was happening was backhauled across the network from the Lexington Wind Stream Network Center or the Nashville Network Center. They got blown up if you remember. That was surveillance audio on the hook phones.

45:06I've sent over the last 29 years or something. I've had very sources come forward. If you remember, Star Entrack, the spin-off they attempted call to assignment Earth with Gary Seven and Terry Gar, stomped out because a Jean Roddenberg kept wanting her to show more ass. She was short of skirts and she finally said, I'm not going to wear that skirt without Lea Tards or something. She never worked for Jean Roddenberg again. But that spin-off, he's suspicious. She shows up as a temporary secretary and he gets suspicious as I said down in front of an IBM Selectric Top Rider in 1967 and type out everything you've done for the last three days. I want to report and she starts typing and he goes, no, and flips the switch and he goes, and it starts typing as she talks. The voice to text was already in place in 1967. I have two sources for that. One with a heavy Eastern European accent was called down to the, she escaped.

46:10Her father's farm was confiscated but a bunch of expecically collectivism and they didn't want to give over their farm. So they had to leave the country and a bunch of people were killed, maybe 100 million. I don't know. But she took refuge. I think she went actually into like this sound of music. She ended up going into Austria with her baby and escaped through political asylum with the American Embassy and ended up working for a telephone company. In 68, 69, 70, she was called down to the science lab of that phone company in a large Midwestern city without revealing my source. And they were doing voice to text with heavy Eastern European accents then. So the surveillance state, all that stuff with the church committee and stuff like that, it goes far beyond what we were told. Absolutely. And I think AI does as well. Yeah. Well, they started AI in the late 80s as far as my sources go. And so it's 25 years as we

47:13found from the advanced network technology catalog. It's 25 years before anything is even considered for declassification. So how long has AI been in the wild? You know, this latest thing that they escaped its box and figured out how to lie and erase its footprints and all this stuff that's come out in the last few weeks. How long was it in the wild? And something out of person of interest with Jim Kovizel. Longs a bit out there. Yeah, that's the thing that really strikes me. And thank you, Mike. I appreciate it. I got to move on because I got another call. But I can't help but wonder here. Because this thing really was well developed. I can't, I couldn't believe when I first had the first conversation, quote unquote, conversation hard to believe we're even talking about it in those terms with an AI, what they call large language model. And sought clarification on, you know,

48:14some ATSE 3 standard stuff. Thing was able to answer you questions like you were in a chat room talking to a human being. And my mind was just absolutely blown. And from those early days, hasn't been that long. And here we are now with it's everywhere. And now they're talking about it wiping out the human race, killing people. There have been discussions about them having these things on nuclear weapons, controlling nuclear weapons. How do you feel about that, ladies and gentlemen, putting the world on a hair trigger run by an artificial intelligence engine? Doesn't it make you sleep well at night? Doesn't it make you sleep? Does it make you sleep well at night knowing you've got absolute psychopath lunatics controlling nuclear weapons? And by the way, threatening to use them now, if Marjorie Taylor Green is to be believed, she said her sources

49:17said that there were active discussions inside the Trump administration of using nuclear weapons on Iran. At this point in time, I know the Democrats who more than likely going to take over in November saw barring in the unforeseen false flag events, which could very well happen between now and then, but it's looking like they're going to get both houses of Congress. If that happens, there's going to be impeachment proceedings. And frankly, at this point, with all the betrayal that we've experienced, I won't be sorry to see them impeached and prosecuted. Unlike his first term, which is all we ever heard about, but what do you think? Fargo North Dakota, what's on your mind? Go ahead, please. Yeah, I just want to make a comment that the ace baker had a video on YouTube called 9-11-Style. You take all the preposter stories that surround 9-11, where the

50:22you know the task force coming out of the airplane, and you got this story of a plane hitting a panagon, drilling a hole through all that concrete when a bird strike brings down an airplane. Come on. And ace baker proved that there was no planes. These chopper-five was five miles out. They zoomed in on the towers in the plane hit, but if you back out the video of the chopper-five, there's no plane in the horizon. And when you take a look at how this plane disappears into the tower without crumbling, there's no debris. The evidence, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming, in my mind, that there were no planes. And it might not even bend anybody in them towers, because in 1989, they were condemned because of the asbestos in the buildings. And then in 1993, the other tower was condemned because of the explosion in the basement. There's fractures in the construction. So it's very possible that both buildings were condemned, and they were at minimal operating level. Well, I don't know. I know that the asbestos was an issue. I do think that people inside the

51:26building, because there were other people that knew people that were killed supposedly. Go ahead, Vicki. I'll come back to you, Collar. Hang on just a minute. What do you think? The asbestos was a major issue, because they had very strict rules about how asbestos was to be removed. And the cost of removal of the asbestos in the trade center towers was more than the buildings were worth. So the port authority, they did apply for demolition permit to demolish those buildings, and they were denied because of the asbestos. And so I I believe that the port authority said, you know, to hell with you, we are going to demolish those buildings. And I do believe that it was a port authority contracted with, oh, what's that guy's name?

52:30I forget what his name was, but they contracted with him to take over control of the buildings. And that's what Larry Silverstein? Yeah, Larry Silverstein. And so he was responsible, he supposedly owned those, at least those buildings. So he was responsible for them. Yeah, and he tried to collect twice on the insurance, as I recall. Go ahead, Collar. He did. Yeah. Yeah, well, look at everybody knows somebody who died in those towers. Okay, it's crap. This is the biggest crap story I've ever heard. Nothing of it makes any sense. You know that plain the jet fuel is nothing but clean diesel caracene. You can't fracture the integrity of low carbon construction grade steel. They were blown to kingdom come, and they did it because they could not expand. They couldn't take it apart piece by piece like they wanted. The people of New York City

53:31would hang you by, if they knew that you could have tried demolishing those buildings. There's no way. Let's do a terrorist attack and it was a great utility. It brought in the Patriot Act. It got them to move the troops around the world. Look at, no fire chief would ever set 451 firefighters into that trap. I knew a guy that was a super intended of a storage site for oil and a refinery, and they're the best trained firefighters. They're better trained than anybody. He told me, he said they never would have sent them firefighters up there. They would have helicoptered in a site survey and would have went from there. This whole thing is a TV show. Yeah, well, I think we agree on the motive. I think most people, I know I do agree on the motive. I believe that the whole thing is a set up situation. I think what we're left to do amongst ourselves is hair split and debate. The techniques that were used, how they pulled it off versus the

54:34fact that they did pull it off. In my opinion, I think the Israeli Assad was involved. I definitely think the Bush administration was involved. I think the Neocons surrounding the Bush administration planned it all out. In fact, I don't have to think that we have the black and white blueprint. That's why over the years, I haven't focused as much on the science of the temperature of steel and that sort of thing. I've focused on the documentation that they wrote prior to the event and the fact that they planned Homeland Security in advance, too. These are things that we can prove. There's more than enough evidence that you can prove in documentation, black and white. We can question how they pulled it off and what mechanism they used and whether or not there's aircraft or not or whether or not. There were high jackers or not. There were some of these high jackers that were reported to be alive after the event.

55:38Well, look, I'd say that controlled demolition incorporated as the number one suspect in this paper because to bring those two buildings down that day at that time and had to be done or the exact perfectly, you had to have the most experienced engineers to approach that. You can see there's really more Assad did it, but they're not experienced in bringing buildings down like they are in Las Vegas. Control demolition incorporated as the number one suspect in this crime. Now I agree. I agree. And also you got to consider building seven. Nope. No planes are even a ledge to have hit building seven. And yeah, that's true. They never they'd just kept that whole thing quiet. None of that makes sense at all. Hey, thank you, Collar. I appreciate it. Thanks for your input. Blessings to you. All right, we're out of this hour already. We have to take a break. When we come back though, we're going to be visiting with Casey Whalen and James Fetzer, James Fetzer, Marine, retired academic and very, very heavily involved in the 9-11 truth movement starting in

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