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Gretchen and Katie are back at recording and they talk about where they've been, and what they learned. They talked about faux-grace that's really just people pleasing. They talk about learning to be graded and the return to school. They talk about grief, kids, joy, and their "word for 2024" as they look ahead.
We talk about purpose and beauty of stories, the upcoming books for our book club, and best of all KATIE'S NEW BOOK coming out this spring.
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