Gumloop Raises $50M from Benchmark to Scale AI Agents

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2:00Welcome to the podcast. I'm your host, Jaden Schaefer. Today on the show, we are talking about, I want to do a startup highlight. It's a company called Gumloop. They just raised $50 million from benchmark, one of the top tier VCs. And essentially, their goal is to help every employee turn into an AI agent builder. So look at those tasks you're doing, look at the things you're doing and how do we create AI agents to automate stuff you're doing, share those to other organizations, share them within your department around your company to help everyone do more with AI agents. And honestly, this is a pretty ambitious company, but I think they've actually landed some pretty successful plays. I'm excited to get into this because it's a company that was started in mid-2023, right? So we're talking like Post-Chatch UPT hype and they were able to grow scale successfully and now they've raised $50 million. So this is going to be a good one to get into. Before we get into that, I just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone. Yesterday was my birthday and I asked everyone if you hadn't already to leave a review for my birthday.

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4:01This is what he said. He said, it provides a good overview of recent news and AI, but can be very subjective and repetitive in some topics and comes across as biased for certain vendors. As far as being repetitive, it's kind of hard, right? Because you have like Google and open AI and Anthropic and they all kind of come up with features and when someone does one feature, they also are copy it. So I totally get that, how it can feel repetitive sometimes. Also, as far as being biased to certain vendors, I will say not sponsored by any of the companies I talk about on the podcast currently, although shout out to OpenAI, I won't turn down a sponsorship deal. But in all seriousness, as far as being biased to certain buyers to certain vendors, I definitely, I can agree with that, I probably am, but it's typically vendors that I use the most and that I get the most use out of. So I mean, naturally, I'm gonna be biased if I'm actively using them. And I do try to try all of the different AI companies. And so if I'm just seeing the XYZ video generator, like VO3 from Google Flow is just so much better than something like Runway, for example,

5:01I am gonna be biased and that's kind of what I'm doing. But I do try to reevaluate because these things all change all the time and give you guys the latest on whatever's imperving the most. So anyways, that's where I'm at on all of those. I really appreciate it. If you have any comments or thoughts, feel free to share them right a review. I'll probably cover it in the show. If it's an interesting thing that I feel like it applies to everyone. All right, let's get into what's going on with Gumloop. This is a really interesting company. It was started by Max Broder Urbass. He's one of the co-founders. And they started back in 2023. And I kind of gave you the idea, the overview of what they're trying to do, but basically they're just trying to help automate some of their more tedious parts of a job with AI. When they first launched, I think it was very ambitious and it was definitely a lot more experimental. And I remember seeing this company come out of the gate. It's something that was ambitious, but I didn't really know if they're going to be able to pull this off. I think that has changed a lot. I've been impressed at the time back then. There was actually a bunch of other companies that were doing demos and stuff. And some of them did not make it. But Gumloop has done a pretty good job.

6:04They're used by Shopify, Ramp, Gusto, Instacart, OpenDore. A bunch of other of these big players are actually using them. And they essentially deploy AI agents that are doing complex stuff, multi-step workflows, and you don't need an engineer. So instead of having to write the code, you can just build these agents visually, similar to what I'm working on with AIbox.ai my own startup. And so yeah, no shocker that Gumloop is doing really well. I see a ton of value. And this is an area that is growing very fast as I'm seeing with my own startup. So according to Broder Urbass, because essentially what happens, what he says happens inside of a company and why they grew so fast, he says that someone is going to build one of the employees inside of a company builds one and then another team inside of the organization is going to copy it and they modify it. And then basically it just spreads wildfire inside of the organization. So it's kind of interesting, right? I think you oftentimes hear people creating a tool and then it kind of gets out of the organization and another organization uses it or a template

7:05or some sort of resource. And that's how a lot of these companies grow. It's interesting to see that for them, it's like one person in a company uses it and they basically are kind of the person that spreads it to the whole organization. He said that once someone like this starts building more agents, then suddenly the whole company becomes AI native. That's a quote from him. So I think right now, that vision of putting AI into the hands of every employee is what they're trying to do and that's what Drew Benchmark's general partner, Everett Randall, to them. He's the one that kind of spearheaded the investment into them. Randall also is new to Benchmark. He joined it just in October. He was at Clienter Parkins before. So Randall's been at a lot of these top DCs and he believes that everyday workers should have a quote unquote AI superpower. So at this kind of, I think why they invited me this investment here. And of course, $50 million is a big lead. They didn't put the full 50 million in, but they led this around.

8:06So they're Series B investment. And this is also Randall's first deal over at Benchmark. So he's making his mark and this is a cool, this is an impressive deal. The round had a bunch of other people in it. There was Nexus venture partners, first round capital-like combinator box group and began and project and Shopify. So it's interesting because Shopify is one of the customers that uses it and now they're invested. And I think we actually see this a lot with software, especially with these bigger firms. If they can go find a startup and they're willing to use the product, they like the product and probably they're seeing a lot of internally at the company, it's saving them a lot of time and money and their employees are using it. They're like, well, that's probably going to be the case for a lot of other companies. And I've actually seen some investors, it's kind of their like a sort of strategy to invest in their, invest in their like expense sheet. Basically, the companies that they spend money on, they invest in them. So one thing that I think is interesting, Gumloop wasn't actually actively raising money, but Broder said that the timing felt right and Benchmark kind of reached out to them and said,

9:06hey, look, we see you guys are growing, we'd be interested in helping you put together around. And Benchmark, by the way, is the company, I mean, obviously, tier 1 VC, but they've invested in like eBay Uber Dropbox. So they've been into a lot of these. And so I think because of that, Broder, who's leading Gumloop was like, look, this is a big, big firm, they obviously have a lot of great connections. And so he wanted to get in with it. Originally, his goal when he was building this company, though, Broder, he said that he was envisioning just a 10 person billion dollar company. That was his goal. He just wanted this to be like super lean. And you know, with AI agents, and especially because his company is an AI agent company, I think that would have been some incredible marketing to be like, look, we reached a billion dollar valuation. And we've just done the whole thing with just 10 people and we've been using AI agents. There's an interesting report that came out, it's kind of one viral yesterday on X, which is that for like getting, for getting anthropic up to like over a billion dollar valuation, there was only one person on the go-to-market strategy team

10:07and he was just using. And I actually think up until quite recently, it was one guy running all of their GDM. And he was just using tons of agents powered by Claude to do everything. And so I'm sure that's kind of like a marketing thing. But I think the guy leaked that out himself. It wasn't like anthropic, it was trying to make a big point of it. So I thought that was hilarious. It's definitely possible more than you'd think. But of course, according to Broder, in the case of Gumloop, he said demand from enterprise customers, basically pushed them to scale more aggressively, so they had to add a lot of engineers and a dedicated sales team, which makes sense, right? And I know it's like, well, why can't the AI do the sales? And realistically, people usually want to talk to a person on a call and not be sold by an AI agent that you can't really verify and put a face to. Gumloop definitely isn't alone though. And I think chasing this kind of vision of turning knowledge workers into AI builders, there's a lot of competition, Zapier, N8N, there's some newer interesting agent tools that I've been looking at like dust. And of course, I'm building one AI box. And so I think basically,

11:08even the major AI companies are moving in this direction, anthropic recently introduced cloud co-work, which basically lets you create autonomous agents without writing any sort of code. And like JetGPT is custom GBT's, which I wouldn't go so far as call those agents, but they are useful tools that can help you kind of automate some things to a small degree. Now, one thing that I think Gumloop is doing very well, and I predict this is a huge trend across all AI companies is that they are modeling agnostic by design. So basically, every time there's a new update and a new model starts kind of crushing it in the benchmarks and beating everybody else, I mean, typically we see kind of like a cyclical loop somewhere between like JetGPT and cloud and Gemini and Grock and maybe another random one gets thrown in the mix every once in a while, but we see this like every quarter basically cycling through who's leading in the benchmarks. And so because of that, different AI models are good at different tasks. They perform differently, Gumloop basically lets companies choose whatever model fits their job best at the moment and they can switch that out. I think this is actually smart and it's kind of a competitive advantage

12:10that opening AI Google Anthropic, they can't really touch, because even though they're all gonna make these AI agent tools, if you could get the same thing at a company that lets you switch an interchange between them all, there's a huge value there as different AI models are kind of going up and down in the benchmarks and they're getting, you know, they're edging out the competitors, you always want to use the best tool. And you know, some of them are better for different things. And to that point, if you want to get access to over 40 of the top AI models, everything from text, image, and audio, I would love for you to try out my startup, which is aibox.ai. Not only do we have an AI agent builder where you can describe a tool you would like to create and it will link together different AI models, fill up prompts so you can automate tasks that you do, we also have a playground where you get access to over 40 of the top models and you could chat with them all in the same thread. So you can start talking with chat GPT, switch to Gemini, switch to Claude in the same thread, it sees the context and you don't have to worry about paying for subscriptions to a dozen different platforms. You get 11 labs for audio, you get a bunch of cool image generators, so you can go check that out at aibox.ai. I'll leave a link in the description.

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