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Welcome to the podcast.
I'm your host, Jaden Schaefer.
Today on the show, we are talking about,
I want to do a startup highlight.
It's a company called Gumloop.
They just raised $50 million from benchmark,
one of the top tier VCs.
And essentially, their goal is to help every employee
turn into an AI agent builder.
So look at those tasks you're doing,
look at the things you're doing,
and how do we create AI agents to automate stuff you're doing?
Share those to other organizations,
share them within your department around your company
to help everyone do more with AI agents.
And honestly, this is a pretty ambitious company,
but I think they've actually landed
some pretty successful plays.
I'm excited to get into this
because it's a company that was started in mid-2023, right?
So we're talking like post-chat UBT hype,
and they were able to grow scale successfully,
and now they've raised $50 million.
So this is gonna be a good one to get into.
Before we get into that,
I just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone.
Yesterday was my birthday, and I asked everyone,
if you hadn't already, to leave a review for my birthday.
And I wanted to say a huge thank you.
I had tons of reviews.
I wanted to read a couple of them.
Some of them were funny.
Someone said, I think Jaden does a great job
of concisely capturing the latest AI oriented news.
He comes across as a generally good guy,
and I always look forward to his take on things.
That is from Texas St.
Thank you, Texas St.
for saying I am a generally good guy.
I hope someday to become like a super good guy,
but a generally good guy is awesome.
I think especially in the field of politics,
you probably see this on a lot of other podcasts too,
but in the field of AI,
like there's so much that touches into politics
and ethics and so many areas
where people have a lot of strong opinions.
So inevitably I'm gonna say things
that probably people don't agree with
for a variety of different reasons
other people agree with.
So anyways, I hope that it's still insightful
and educational, and we're all learning about AI together.
So I appreciate all of you guys coming along.
One other, I got a four star review
from Matthew C. Coder.
Matthew, come on bro, is my birthday.
You gotta give me a four star review like that.
This is what he said, he said,
provides a good overview of recent news and AI,
but can be very subjective and repetitive in some topics
and comes across as biased for certain vendors.
As far as being repetitive, it's kind of hard, right?
Cause you have like Google and OpenAI and Anthropic,
and they all kind of come up with features
and when someone does one feature, they also are a copyip.
So I totally get that, how it can feel repetitive sometimes.
Also, as far as being biased to certain vendors,
I will say not sponsored by any of the companies
I talk about on the podcast currently,
although shout out to OpenAI,
I won't turn down a sponsorship deal,
but in all seriousness,
as far as being biased to certain vendors,
I definitely, I can agree with that, I probably am,
but it's typically vendors that I use the most
and that I get the most use out of.
So I mean, naturally I'm gonna be biased
if I'm actively using them.
And I do try to try all of the different AI companies.
And so if I'm just seeing the XYZ video generator,
like VO3 from Google Flow is just so much better
than something like runway, for example,
I am gonna be biased and that's kind of what I'm doing.
But I do try to reevaluate
because these things all change all the time
and give you guys the latest on whatever's imperving the most.
So anyways, that's where I'm at on all of those.
I really appreciate it.
If you have any comments or thoughts,
feel free to share them right in review.
I'll probably cover it in the show
if it's an interesting thing that I feel like applies to everyone.
All right, let's get into what's going on with Gumloop.
This is a really interesting company.
It was started by Max Broder Urbass.
He's one of the co-founders.
And they started back in 2023
and I kind of gave you the idea
the overview of what they're trying to do,
but basically they're just trying to help automate
some of the more tedious parts of a job with AI.
When they first launched, I think it was very ambitious
and it was definitely a lot more experimental.
And I remember seeing this company come out of the gate.
It's something that was ambitious,
but I didn't really know if they're going to be able to pull this off.
I think that has changed a lot.
I've been impressed at the time back then.
There's actually a bunch of other companies
that were doing demos and stuff
and some of them did not make it.
But Gumloop has done a pretty good job.
They're used by Shopify, Ramp, Gusto, Instacart, OpenDore.
A bunch of other of these big players
are actually using them.
And they essentially deploy AI agents
that are doing complex stuff, multi-step workflows,
and you don't need an engineer.
So instead of having to write the code,
you can just build these agents visually,
similar to what I'm working on with AIbox.ai, my own startup.
And so yeah, no shocker that Gumloop is doing really well.
I see a ton of value,
and this is an area that is growing very fast
as I'm seeing with my own startup.
So according to Broder Urbass,
because essentially what happens,
like what he says happens inside of a company
and why they grew so fast,
he says that someone is going to build
like one of the employees inside of a company builds one,
and then another team inside of the organization
is going to like copy it and they modify it.
And then basically it just spreads like wildfire
inside of the organization.
So it's kind of interesting, right?
You, I think you oftentimes hear people creating a tool
and then it kind of gets out of the organization
and another organization uses it or a template
or some sort of resource.
And that's how a lot of these companies grow.
It's interesting to see it that for them,
it's like one person in a company uses it.
And they basically are kind of the person
that spreads it to the whole organization.
He said that once someone like this
starts building more agents,
then suddenly the whole company becomes AI native.
That's a quote from him.
So I think right now,
that vision of putting AI into the hands of every employee
is what they're trying to do.
And that's what Drew Benchmark's general partner,
Everett Randall, to them.
He's the one that kind of spearheaded
the investment into them.
Randall also is new to Benchmark.
He joined it just in October.
He was at Cliner Parkins before.
So Randall's been at a lot of these top DCs.
And he believes that everyday workers
should have a quote unquote AI superpower.
So at this kind of,
I think why they made this investment here.
And of course, $50 million is a big lead.
I mean, they didn't put the full 50 million in
but they led this around.
It's their Series B investment.
And this is also Randall's first deal over at Benchmark.
So he's making his mark and this is a cool,
this is an impressive deal.
The round had a bunch of other people in it.
There was Nexus venture partners,
first round capital Y combinator box group
and the Canon project and Shopify.
So it's interesting because Shopify is one of the customers
that uses it and now they're invested.
And I think we actually see this a lot with software,
especially with these bigger firms.
If they can go find a startup and they're willing
to use the product, they like the product
and probably they're seeing a lot of internally
at the company, it's saving them a lot of time and money
and their employees are using it.
They're like, well,
that's probably going to be the case
for a lot of other companies.
And I've actually seen some investors,
it's kind of their like a sort of strategy
to invest in their, invest in their like expense sheet.
Basically, the companies that they spend money on,
they invest in them.
So one thing that I think is interesting,
Gumloop wasn't actually actively raising money,
but Broder said that, you know, the timing felt right
and Benchmark kind of reached out to them
and said, hey, look, we see you guys are growing.
We'd be interested in helping you put together around.
And Benchmark, by the way, is the company,
I mean, obviously tier one VC,
but they've invested in like eBay Uber Dropbox.
So they've been into a lot of these.
And so I think because of that Broder
who's leading Gumloop was like, look,
this is a big, you know, big firm,
they obviously have a lot of great connections.
And so he wanted to get in with it.
Originally, his goal when he was building this company,
though Broder, he said that he was envisioning
building just a 10 person billion dollar company.
That was his goal.
He just wanted this to be like super lean.
And you know, with AI agents,
especially because his company is an AI agent company,
I think that would have been some incredible marketing
to be like, look, we reached, you know, a billion dollar
valuation and we've just done the whole thing
with just 10 people and we've been using AI agents.
There's an interesting report that came out.
It's kind of one viral yesterday on X,
which is that for like getting,
for getting anthropic up to like over a billion dollar
valuation, there was only one person
on the go-to-market strategy team
and he was just using.
And I actually think up until quite recently,
it was one guy running all of their GDM
and he was just using tons of agents
powered by Claude to do everything.
And so I'm sure that's kind of like a marketing thing.
But I think the guy leaked that out himself.
It wasn't like anthropic.
It was trying to make a big point of it.
So I thought that was hilarious.
It's definitely possible more than you'd think.
But of course, according to Broder in the case of Gumloop,
he said demand from enterprise customers,
basically pushed them to scale more aggressively
so that they'd add a lot of engineers
and a dedicated sales team,
which makes sense, right?
And I know it's like, well, why can't the AI do the sales?
And realistically, people usually want to talk to a person
on a call and not be sold by an AI agent
that you can't really verify and put a face to.
Gumloop definitely isn't alone, though.
And I think chasing this kind of vision
of turning knowledge workers into AI builders.
There's a lot of competition, Zapier, N8N.
There's some newer interesting agent tools
that I've been looking at like dust.
And of course, I'm building one AI box.
And so I think, basically, even the major AI companies
are moving in this direction.
Anthropic recently introduced Cloud Co-Work,
which basically lets you create autonomous agents
without writing any sort of code.
And like JGPT is custom GPTs, which I wouldn't go so far
as call those agents, but they are useful tools
that can help you kind of automate some things
to a small degree.
Now, one thing that I think Gumloop is doing very well.
And I predict this as a huge trend across all AI companies
is that they are modeling agnostic by design.
So basically, every time there's a new update
and a new model starts to kind of crush it
in the benchmarks and beating everybody else.
I mean, typically we see kind of like a cyclical loop.
Somewhere between like, Chad GPT and Claude
and Gemini and Grock and maybe another random one
gets thrown in the mix every once in a while.
But we see this like every quarter, basically,
cycling through who's leading in the benchmarks.
And so because of that, different AI models
are good at different tasks.
They perform differently.
Gumloop basically lets companies choose whatever model fits
their job best at the moment.
And they can switch that out.
I think this is actually smart.
And it's kind of a competitive advantage
that opening AI Google Anthropic, they can't really touch
because even though they're all gonna make these AI agent tools,
if you could get the same thing at a company
that lets you switch an interchange between them all,
there's a huge value there as different AI models
are kind of going up and down in the benchmarks.
And they're getting, you know,
they're edging out the competitors.
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Catch you guys in the next episode.
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