
About this episode
Grunny joins us, with a surprise appearance from The Godfather, Frank Boal! All things Chiefs and some College Football Clock discussion!
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Get every episode summarized
Each time The Program publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
Hosts & guests
Transcript ready
483 searchable segments. Every word is indexed and playable.
Full transcript
The Program — H2 Tim Grunhard AND Frank Boal. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
Cooler nights in Kansas City mean one thing for pests your house just became their favorite destination Rotler pest solutions family owned for 70 years is the trusted name your neighbors already call Visit rotler dot com just go to your free inspection. That's our OTT LER dot com I remember two of the program begins right now are good buddy Tim Grunhard in talking some chief's football He's brought to my friends at the plumbing pro sewer septic drain installation and repair the guys at the plumbing pro They are the ones to call And Frank's here too Frankie boy the Godfather To interview modern day gladiators at arrowhead and original gladiators in the I guess and saw Jesse Owens get four goals It's that you run one of your head Yeah, you're good yeah Yes, we are so what the hell is going on here? Yeah, what so like this life segment? We have Tim here because you couldn't make it Frank and now you're here
You want to hear the story? Somehow it's gonna be my fault. We have to know of course it's your fault somehow this being being Frank's friends like being married to Frank That's it's like being married. You know he's he's he's not a good lady. He's the wife in the thin this relationship Okay, a lot of different ways Okay, so here's so we have a whole tomorrow Because Tim's here today exactly and Frank was gonna pull that fill that hole No, not tomorrow either. Yeah, so I okay, so there's deal Tim calls the amount of fun says Do you want to go to a Hall of Fame event in Curseville, Missouri? Tuesday we go down and do a thing was supposed to be there at 530 of course we get off here at 4 Serena if you were driving we had chance to get there by 530 But with him driver we're not gonna get there till about eight Okay, so the deal is he says there's a reception at 530 for cancer outfit or whatever for cancer charity and you know We'll do it and then we play golf tomorrow in the Missouri
All the same deal. Yeah, so I said okay fine. He says we can leave about 11 a.m. Tuesday because I've got something to do for Robert's Robertson I said okay. I called cow said cow not gonna be there to just a week was so go right so I'll go so I call back to Tim. He says no, I'm doing Seren from from three to four on Tuesday And my am I defense I'm going what are you doing do you not have a car in my in my defense The you said Robinson will hook you The Missouri Hall of Fame used to have an event right here in Kansas City up at Tiffany Green and For some reason they don't have it anymore. And it's kind of part of the responsibility if you're in the hall of Fame He they asked you to do one of that a year. Yeah, so I was gonna go do the Branson one which is later on this week But it's on Monday and they're like hey, yeah, we'll see you on Monday I said no, you're not it's Monday. I'm not even going on a Branson to go to Monday night football game
Are you kidding me? That's not happening. They're like we have one of Kirk's Boat Can you really we really need you to make it on my go? Okay, well, let me call Frank's if he wants to go Frank's like yeah, sure We'll go so That's that's why we we kind of changed it around and and let's say it's game week. It's it's Denver Broncos I just I felt like man I can't leave Seren hang I give him a little bit of my my expertise I come hey, so you can surrender either side the last thing I would ever want to do is is not fulfill my Requirements for Seren petro hey because if you do you never really leave it down Here's the other deal too. You can tell I don't give it down Well, you're like I'll just pass down the control room. Yeah, so help him out, please yeah And Frank bowl You know very particular about my notebook and then I've got ten run-art right here and no room to write and Frank So so that's why we're here. We're here to harass the hell out of you okay Okay, all right, it's gonna see how was your week off last week. It was awesome. I did almost nothing
Do you have frank opinions ready to go? No, no, we're not doing Doing the world we you know, we're just gonna talk cheese football Monday night against the Broncos, okay, okay, I don't leave anytime you want well no, no, you're fine. You're fine Unless Tim wants you to go cuz you're cramping his style no He already gets mad at me for talking too much now. He's gonna have you blathering on over there He's got a four-hour ride with me so he's better watch him. Yeah, he controls the radio on that right He does he controls everything We'll be listening to yo-yo ma a little bit of classical music really Little classical you've turned over a new I've turned over a lot of new lease Yes, by the way, I've got some books that are on the inside I'm gonna read this real quick. Okay. I'm gonna read it be free or on the inside of
Basically someone who has knowledge of how clocks work in football Okay, yeah Was in on a conversation Yeah, okay, he's reading now you're he re now you're not quite sure I'm not it. No bottom line mark. I'm just I'm because I'm not It's off the record, but bottom line is the clock you see on TV is the only clock that matters and And it was yeah, that was unbelievable and you knew you guys Everybody knew that if they gave that second that they were gonna score I mean it was I was like that's it mission gets gonna score They're gonna you know western Michigan an unbelievable game plan unbelievable Execution Michigan did not look good at all their quarterback look horrendous and they go ahead and win the game What a terrible terrible That was a lot of the possibility that our caller at the end of the last hour put that
If there's point five left it might say zero because they don't have tense if if The thing is it want at one hundred times the thing is it one second until it gets to zero Okay, so it doesn't it doesn't go to zero and then you figure out well gosh is it or it's one goes? It's one all the way down to when it gets to zero. It's zero. Yeah Well three or three of the four of us do pay attention to social media if you're over 75 I mean and by the way How I how I noticed that is that is that I Watch obviously I do a lot of basketball games here Almost the high schools have the digital clocks now and the fans will chant How much time there is on the and they're always a second ahead because or behind because it's they see five point nine And they go five four like it's actually sick. You've got one more second than you think that's how people View that so but it's not you have the numbers are where they are So that just the idea that it's possibly there was some time because it was they don't have digital clocks or one point tenths of a second It was when it's a zero. It's zero not six. I do get the point because if you have four tenths of a second
It says zero zero point four right and so if you don't have that point for I understand the point that he's making oh Yeah, I just I just I'm not buying it. I mean I I understand you know you can you can you can come up with an argument for anything Right. Yeah, if this is a high school debate class great you you get an aid to me. Right that's fantastic I love your theory on that but how we have done this forever is when it says zero on the clock That's it. It's zero and I think with social media nowadays What whatever call it is whether it's baseball basketball football guys we're getting ready to it's week one Guess what on Tuesday the overreaction is not overreaction Tuesday this week It's it is this week Tuesday not Monday like usually is but the overreaction to every little thing that was a hole That wasn't a hole that was a face mask and everybody's got their little social media Instagram X whatever they're using and they have their little clip and they're showing how smart they are and how the Referees and young buyers got it wrong and it's turned it's it's ruining the sport
I mean because now everybody believes it's all fixed. I mean I would say if you do it When you give Michigan another pride I agree but I agree with that but social media if you can you can go on there You can find examples of it at zero you can find examples it would every year trying to get your point across You can find an example and then all of a sudden you have a platform and you have an area that you can go and you can attack Everybody and anything and it's just and to me it's just ruining the game because I mean how many times that we have to hear about how well That the NFL wants to choose to win a Super Bowl So we got this this and that call and they have an example of it And it's like you know guys. It's not as easy as you think it is just like in baseball You know when you when you see the the the strike zone. What do they call that now the ABS? I mean those on pyres are unbelievable good. I mean I Quarter of an inch on a 101 mile par fastball from you know the guy from the Brewers was a Mizorowski or I mean how could you actually see that?
I mean it's how fast that's coming in and they do an unbelievable job So yeah that that but that was I agree with you on that I mean Michigan just they that was that was embarrassed since since you brought up the baseball I would say though do do they do an unbelievable job now because they know they're being tracked And before you oh you didn't like oh the guy showed me up well Guess what that's a strike that's a strike right but now everyone had their own strike zone Yeah, maybe they're not allowed to have their own strikes. Yeah, now you've got a call I mean I think I'm I do I do think that umpires a great. I am amazed at like we're talking about one the place at first Base for ridiculous like like 1.2 inches or 0.12 inches away and like like oh my god Even like I wouldn't have a problem if that got called a strike. Yeah, even though it was outside But I think it's still progress from the standpoint of I don't I Am adamant that there were plenty of calls it sucked. Yeah, but now they don't get they don't try that crap No, but you know used to be two or three innings that you the batters would have to figure out what the umpires strike zone was
What okay, that's a ball. Yeah, that's a strike. Now you adjust. Yeah now first pitch It's universal and there and there was a nuance to that that was kind of entertaining and fun to like okay Well, he's calling the low strike boy. This is gonna help someone so and I know gamblers were always on on what what upires were there and how Yes, the strike zone was gonna be and how it matched up with with the pictures and all that kind of thing Yeah, pictures like Greg Maddox who would you he would start you know outside and then work his way in and he figured out We're exactly he can get that outside He get it and they creep it out there a little by little But I mean the problem the reason why I think you need it is they threw a guy out for not having his hat on straight Which I don't know if this jackass is aware But CC some at the end never put it on straight his entire career ever yeah ever and he's a little Same yeah, and so like Fernando Rodney Yeah, right in a row yes if you're and so if you've got a guy that thinks he has the power to make someone where they're half the way
He wants him to wear it you tell me they didn't screw a guy on strike calls. Oh, yeah I'll replay absolutely they did so replay was this year last year the guy was Catcher Hill out of his glove to get a new ball and you didn't get it so you kind of okay Give up and the guy tossed the ball to the guy right after he moved his glove and the up got mad Through him out of the game boom catcher going like what he wasn't trying to show you up dude That type of mentality sometimes yeah human element is gone and then all all his teammates Put their hats on quiet now it's so to the other team. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, I'm smarticus There's nothing better than when Curtis references a movie from the 1960s It's part of this in the 60s 1960. Yeah, yeah Great movie Did you guys get the well we're old? I got it Not everybody out there's a hundred like oh Most people I did but I was trying to think of a joke on Frank. I'm like I'm just gonna leave me alone
I Said something like you know Frank Frank was Frank had three kids by the time No, I will reference current shows as well. Yeah, they I've heard the casino line about 50 times and I'm like, that's not which one Either you're in on it or you're too stupid to stop it. Yeah, but that's to make a point that's not that's not just a drop of line It's totally different I am spot August But anyway back to back to Michigan. I miss I missed this over the last day Not once did anybody say that to me Well nobody said they because you didn't leave your apartment I did a few times. I did you a couple times Yeah, I don't believe when it's a hundred degrees out there back the back is now the back was playing nice
They were the back is now saying check they cast it now through this we want we want this game overturned Yeah, do you think there's any chance in hell? Nope, I don't think it'll happen. They've already penalized like the rankings treated Michigan like they lost. Yeah, oh yeah They drop absolutely They were 28 points. They were from 16 has it ever happened 28 has it ever happened at any sporting event where there's been a reversal I can't think of any and it'd be like It's the same power structure that would be Handling whether or not they reverse it is the same Dynamic that caused it in the first place right why would you think that the same body you went? No, we want to protect Michigan suddenly gonna go. Yeah, let's give it to us the only thing I could think of is not the exact same people But it's the same situation in the late 70s at Kamiski they had disco demolition night And there was a double header and they did it between the two double header games and
Because they ruined the field and couldn't get people off they had four of those socks had a four-fit loss the game That's about the only thing I could think of that was like it was decided just from a random act But yeah, is there anything I mean is there ever been like you know because how many times the people you know file for what do they call Agreed events or you know I had baseball the play in the game in a pro tennis Pro tennis and all that kind of stuff now, but I don't ever remember in Pine tar yeah Todd just to me pay Yeah, but that wasn't after they he made the In other words it appeal after let's write and it wasn't for they came back Yeah, they came back wasn't for the game. It was for the yeah, it was for that incident. No, but but that was the game because yeah That was right they called it and yeah and later they reviewed the Plata to be the only nice job Todd. So there's a precedent. There's a precedent. God how could we forget? So do you think Western Michigan got their check they cast it and put it in the account and they said oh by the way now After we got the check we are gonna go ahead and well and just think about how much money the Mac conference Mac
Conference probably couldn't stand on its own without having those games against the big 10 well That's that's what I say like people like well the Macs well the Mac wants that the they played they get probably I don't know 10 20 million dollars a year from going and taking their meetings every year at the other big 10 schools and they they want those games They need those games. Yeah, they absolutely do. I mean it's not just for footballs for all their difference But I think I think they heard that the court of public opinion today is so overwhelmingly on their side How could you not be on this all right now we're not gonna be your bitch Even if you're a Michigan fan I mean it's a Michigan fans. I've talked to you. I like listen That was bull crap that was definitely what looked like the well what's it in the coach said it to the other coach? Yeah, he walked that was a big winning am looked like he was like that's crap Now now that he's losing the win he might be like well I didn't mean to do that. I mean I just want to make the guy feel better but you know, but yeah, I think it's yeah
When I'm seeing on Yahoo Mac school typically make between 1.5 1.9 million per game When players yeah away games against power conference schools says it was 1.5 Western Michigan and there's what and there was what about four or five Mac schools are played in this kind of big game Oh, yeah, they all get ball state play to Ohio State. Yeah, I'm gonna state play to This is that I'll be more next to Ohio State. Yeah, absolutely. And so yeah, they want the payday. So By the well way you got the call Kids was constant no today. Look at me. I came was out of bonds and have control that bone he gave to no day Anyway, that could have changed a whole collection Where is it for isn't the first point? Oh Frank Frank's He texted me and the boys and we disagreed on him I tried to call but I did not try to call I I heard it on saw the uniform and so what yeah, no, I can't What did you think of those Notre Dame uniforms? I could stand either uniform I thought both of them were just I mean the least Notre Dame was normal from the waist up
I don't know what Wisconsin was trying. Yeah, I don't know what they were trying to pull off with the No, no light colored jersey. When you were there. Did you have shiny pants? No, I did not have shiny pants They can make shiny pants and the uniform looks better when the pants match the helmet. Yeah, yeah, yeah Now when they wear mustard. Yeah, we wore the mustard Because they hadn't figured out how to make pants shiny back then They didn't know how now and I don't know why Notre Dame doesn't have shiny golden pants. I don't know Yeah, it's like they want to they want to Do history with the pants, but they want to make the the helmets all sparkly which taught it and exist Talk about it just another joke is about that game last time two and a half hour delay because it couldn't get the lights on Oh gosh, yeah, you know Florida state and yeah, I mean that's what he ran into a Was that what power station or something like that? The bigger disaster was the hundred bucks I lost to being on a squares contest and that thing and getting six Nothing ends in six
I want nothing and that after I already had a dough out cashed almost everybody for Losing in fantasy football last year so yeah, the most throw it shovel another hundred bucks right out the window on this day I'm thing well, you know what Maybe you can make it back on the chiefs this week. What do you think? Let's take a break and we'll get to the bottom of that Tim. What do you that's a dynamite segway there? I like that. I like that Tim Granartier Frank Bol the godfather is here their Hall of Famers people They're very important folks. I will take a break come back talk some more cheese football or some cheese Football next year in the program all right the twin peaks end of the hour answer for NFC teams have opened the regular season at arrowhead. I asked for any one of them Tim Granart you played in two of these The Atlanta Falcons 1991 Let's see who else you didn't start with that game, but you came off the bench Minnesota Vikings
Game yeah very first Started you you are in the game book. I just had to check you are in Second series. Yeah, and then after the first series in Denver the next week and then the rest I was it That was a good idea. I really did It's good mental this Cleo Benson. Thanks. Here's a lot of me. All right So that's going away. What was there another one? There were actually yes, there were two others actually the Lions just a couple of years Yeah, that's a big owner the chief's law. Why do they oh? Oh, that's right. Yeah, good areas Tony. Yes, and the Seck a year of arrowhead Rams were here 1973. There are four AFC teams. AFC teams who have never opened it arrowhead New England Pittsburgh Jacksonville and Denver. I was gonna say Pittsburgh The first time ever the first time ever with them. Yeah, you would thought mean a team you play twice a year for 54 years at some point they would have opened here. They never have you know the two stadiums that I never played in were Cincinnati and Pittsburgh
You never played at Nope, nope they always played here and it's like six times played him a bunch Yeah, that was my games. Yeah Monday night games. Yeah, the bill was we're always coming here for a while Yeah, you know, he only played Cincinnati maybe once or twice maybe just once in that crazy in 11 years Game. Yeah, well you were good and they sucked so you didn't come up with the like we didn't get the waiting at the light schedule Yeah, that's probably what it was but it still seems like though like every four years you be playing that division Yeah, you'd wrote to him back then you would have should have been every three years They've been with the fifth team if they were it was at a time when they had a two fifth place teams They would play each other, but you wouldn't they wouldn't play all the other teams and they around the like a full division They had a they played all the other fifths. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they made it and it made out of had But the Denver Bronco thing I saw that today somewhere and that freaked me out that they've never opened up here We don't it that surprised me at year 54 times and they've never never ever have an opening day Then surprise me that much because they they are in your division you sort of like to sprinkle those food
They play the chart like five times here in the season Can you get a see some? I can get a full sprinkle a couple games in October. It's crazy in Kansas City the nicest month of the damn year I mean we've they always have a couple games or a different chamber and then you play him in And then December there's four games in December of course there are yeah these Jam clouds come on because they're they they're pretty much for the Chiefs to win the game So you bring them in here in December and they bring up Tampa Bay Ex but you don't have to go on Facebook My space I'd say just skip it all You know, yeah, that's that's you know, I'm giving some great advice about three or four years ago I didn't handle people on X and everywhere else and and I do it now I'm with you. I'm not we're not gonna block it is That's your it's your account. Yeah, don't don't give them any kind of platform to use your account to promote their idiotic
There you go there you go And I learned a lot of you get me better by I've learned a lot from you I appreciate Nate you Katie. Yeah, that was Nate Nate's point. He's like yeah, cuz I used to take pride and I'd never blocked him I still only block like 15 16 people I think But You know he he was like why are you it's your name and your platform? Why are you gonna let him just sit there? Be a jerk be right you, you know, yeah, that's good point. I block I blocked myself unofficially How you done I haven't seen you on the day you're gonna be because you got to get there some of your unbelievable tweets on Sunday So chief games are you got it? You got a new account new account. He has a new account KLC. It's KLC. Well the old one someone hacked me last December Oh, and then blocked me changed the password and then blocked me What would I mean I won't shut it down? They won't give it back to me and they won't even shut it down I've been paying I just realized I've been paying eight dollars a month for this guy's blue check mark
And I I sit him on emails like I'm not paying for this anymore this guy have my account and I'm paying for his check mark I would ask for a refund. I am going to go so I need to I'm I'm sure they'll get back to me real quick on that We'll get back to you on that Call DM law Just like you know getting me. Let's talk about the left tackle. Let's talk about it. Andy Reid made it pretty clear He's not gonna play. Yeah, there was some rumblings last week In some of the sources that I talked to you that said that he doesn't just trendy names not gonna play and I put that out speaking of Twitter and X whatever they call it now I put that out and And I said more information to follow and some guy hit me up this morning It's like well, where's the more information when's it coming? I said well, I know you know, but I think we all know now that he's He's not gonna play it's just not gonna happen You know Andy like that that's his I mean that's as much as Andy Reid's ever given on it on an injury and saying that and one that Pat you've seen him he looks good. He's moving around
I'm wearing something coming up. He's gonna play and then turning around and saying you know It's it's a stretch. I do have some some information that I heard for somebody then I don't want to play a doctor And I obviously don't want to talk for anybody, but it's a little bit worse than I think we're all well I definitely think that now that he's not gonna play in week one. I wouldn't expect to see Week two here we go It's good. Cronhart said that he's not playing for four weeks. That's not Listen this is this kind of injury He'd have to tough it out big time and whether he has that in him or not. I don't know. I just don't know I'm not listen. I would you want him to try to push through a back injury? I really wouldn't and I think I don't think so either I think people are starting to come around to that fact Listen if the guy's hurt and he is hurt everybody out there He's not having any kind of episode. I mean you know all these conspiracy theories about Josh Simmons this Josh Simmons that he's a He's a what's this injury is something you can't just tough out. Yeah, and I don't think I don't want him
Too tough it out because I don't want it to get worse. No, and so I think that and I think that's probably the approach that the chiefs are taking is let's get him Healthy and however long that's gonna take is it gonna take one regular season game is gonna take three is gonna take four whatever it is But we want him for all the other games after that. I think that's the approach that they're taking it's scary as hell and it and it it just And I think the reason people are mad because they don't like that their football team's not gonna be a full strength So they want to take it out on somebody so they're taking it out on Josh Simmons. Yeah, yeah That's what it is absolutely. I don't understand why jail and more is not playing left tackle Do you know more play left tackle for the 49ers did a pretty good job? Who's the guy that was hurt all the time in 49ers excellent player left tackle Trebley him is already heard he's the one who filled in in fact Talked to a guy that was on the team with him and said they listen He was really good at left tackle. We always felt comfortable with him online Let's you know, I don't understand why they moving him to right and putting Cleo Benson on the left, but really what's gonna happen is Benito's gonna go wherever he's at
So it really doesn't matter where I mean they're you know that that's the old adage I find that weak link and attack that weak link and then and Listen, I hopefully a Benson has a great game. I think they're gonna help him They're gonna turn protection. They're gonna chip. They're gonna put a tight end over the ball And they're gonna run the ball that which you know, I think will really really help him and it'll give Kind of walker the third an opportunity to kind of get in the flow of the game because we give them ball 15-20 times you never know he can hit a couple big ones But this is a very very tough situation. Go ahead against I think the best defensive line in football now And maybe one of the best defense line the history of football they had 68 sacks last year 212 or so pressures that and they just get out to the quarterback the good thing is and one of the things that I saw Last week in the preseason game And I think that they were kind of testing this out was of the gap running plays when you have a guy like Benito When you have guys that rush up the field and our green basically every play to get out the quarterback They take theirself out of position those gap plays those counter powers traps will work against those guys because they're flying up
The field so much that they're really taking themselves out of the play You can cut the defense at that three technique clear out that that that edge rusher coming up the field and you can really hit some big Play so I would look for yeah I think Kenneth walkers a better zone runner But I would look for some gap runs some counter and power and they did a bunch of that last week Yeah, and I think the one guy is Who's Denver's other defense? Who's the other age? The other side I think he's exactly Yeah, Jonathan Cooper is out Yeah, Cooper's out so that that helps a little bit But this is multi-faceted when you have your quarterback coming off that injury has a big leg brace on It was gonna have a leg brace on so you take away his superpower being his escape ability and then you I mean I saw him scoot around pretty good up in St. Joe like there was one time where he took off and I was like Pretty pretty and I don't know do we know he's gonna play with the brace? I think I'll probably did you see what happened last week he went out to practice without the brace in
Andy Reed said hey listen, where's your brace? You said I decided not to worry you said who told you to take it off And he said nobody goes go get it back on So I love that I love that from Andy Reed. He's like listen. I don't care who you are You know, you're not gonna make a decision on you know on your own body. I'll make the decision I own you but yeah, but he he and you know, and it was funny because Pat kind of hanged dog a little bit Well, I'm feeling and put his knee brace on if he's Told what did you got he got he got he got you got yelled at come on dog dog Knee brace never the horrible Patrick. Yeah, but I yeah, I worry about that the escape ability part you got two Taccles and positions is one of what are you doing in those positions? You got to tie it in who's older But I think you'll be fine being a year. I think I don't know how good he's gonna be towards the end of this season The wide receiver course still very untested. Okay. What's was she right's gonna be like when he comes back? What's this gonna be like what's the savior? Were they gonna be like? You know linebackers
Kicker I mean they have a lot of scares the hell out. They have a lot of question marks Man, they got a lot of questions asked to them the homes Escape ability. I mean nobody I can't remember a quarterback ever who more consistently turned third down at the first down by taking off But I mean, so if he's 10% less. I mean, he's not gonna be Philip Rivers You know, he's if he's 10% less he won't be the best quarterback ever doing it But he's he's still gonna be pretty good at it. Give me a 20 still gonna take off Give me a 20 second time out that competitive. You know what? He's gonna run whenever he's good at do what he does But if he didn't have quite the explosiveness of the speed You may maybe he won't be as good, but he's still gonna be really good at it But I do I do think with with the play action stuff And I think they should run some boot some Gradle some screens and get him out in a space and let him have a little bit of room to kind of maneuver out there because he is a Magician when he gets out in the space. I do hope that they have some some bootleg stuff some some rollouts that are that are designed And you can't and I think they will and you can't run that stuff less your underneath
It doesn't look the same. It doesn't work. I know this is gonna sound stupid, but I I really really hope he's practiced the slide Because you watch some of these quarterbacks that don't slide real well and you like like you're gonna tear your knee up Yeah, like you're you can't slide. I know he played a lot of baseball So you gotta be pretty good at it. Yeah, I get needs to be like you need to be able to get down and practice with that brace on Yeah, and however you're gonna do which legs going first and Get down early and and because what I don't want to see is him like I'm gonna try to get it No, I need to get down and then you do this tumbling and you twist the leg the wrong way. I am your knee and around But you see the you've seen it a million times the guys that don't slide very well and you're like oh my god That that that looks like it could have been I go well. I don't need to see that need doing that And I will tell you about warning braces all the way through mine. I felt career in in college So the old Anderson you're right. It's all the interesting which by the way was the was the
Guy from the Raiders who's the one who developed the Anderson Was it Anna? I forget those two names to it wasn't it but I don't know but but the thing about sliding I didn't really slide but I tell you when you did fall and you fell wrong that knee brace We could all bent up and get all out of out of position out of wacky You'd have to try and shift it around in the middle in the huddle and trying to get it right and half the time You can't get it right until you get off the field so to your point with the slide Those knee braces get caught in the dirt. I don't care how much you put like a sock over the top of it or your tape on top of it They just get stuck because they're you know protruding out of your pant They're protruding out of on your leg and they get caught in the dirt So that could cause some issues Yeah, and there were times a camp you'd see him messing with it and trying to put it into you know Get it back up to where he wanted it. They're pulling it up higher on the leg or what have you it? They suck. They suck Okay, there's not there's no such thing as a comfortable knee brace And you know what there's a thousand people out there listening right now They've worn knee braces going on playing pickleball and everything else and you know exactly what we're talking about
Yeah, it just sucks to wear knee brace. Yeah. How do you think Calil mentioned will do at left tackle And how optimistic are you that he's I think he'll hold his own I don't I don't expect him to have anything over a C plus grade And I think a C plus per grade whatever that'd be pro football focus whatever that would be if he can get into the what would That be like 60s 70s is that what what is pro football focus with like a sick well I think he's been great on a curve. I think he's gonna do a really nice job in the run game I think he's gonna play physical. He's gonna play hard I think he's a good finisher on blocks and run game passing game He's gonna need some help you have him one on one again some of these guys this time can be pretty yeah the Last year the overall grade for Jaila Moore 63 and for Josh Simmons 62.6 So if he can get if he can get in the upper 50s low 60s I think that's a successful day for the Kansas Hs And you know what guys that's that's asking a lot for this kid is an undrafted free agent
Now we talked about it a little bit a couple weeks ago how Colorado kind of bad melt them And it was one of the reasons why I fell in the draft There was a couple other reasons, but you know the Colorado guys who have a lot of connections in the NFL were a little bit But hurt that he left them and went back to Indiana So they weren't gonna say a lot of positive things about Cleo Benson and that hurt him in the draft We're coaching we're calling saying yeah, he's this he's that he's soft. He's not athletic He's a waste-bender blah blah blah whatever they were saying it's certainly hurt his draft Spot but he really hurt yeah, but he's still an undrafted free agent. Yeah, yeah I mean it invite 32 teams said no seven times. Yes, and then by the way 32 teams After when he was there sitting around they didn't offer him even an undrafted free agent's right set for the Kansas And now and now he's starting against one of the best defenses in the NFL It's almost like the Oakland A's and I love that line that Was a Brad Pitt he said you know there's there's a guys who have it and then there's about
50 feet of crap and then it's us. Yes, that's where he Cleo Benson was sitting below that 50 feet of crap. Yes, and now he's playing starting against the Denver Broncos on Monday night Against the best pass rush in the league. Yeah, God bless them. Oh, yeah, sounds great. Can't wait Frank Bull Tim Granar there here Tim. He always brought you by our friends at the plumbing pro Are they handle all your plumbing needs sewer septic drain installation and repair the one to know is the plumbing pro Find them online at the plumbing pro dot com You listen to the program here on sport radio 810 whb What a treat Tim Granard and Frank Bull with us here on a Tuesday the hall of amers. Is that what you call this? Yeah, treat treat treat It was a trick and then it became a treat and then yeah, maybe it was a lot of strength coming in late Yeah, you're in when the I know I know the treat is getting both of your smiling Oh In that sweet in that sweet the big boss man walked by so he saw us in there so we heard this week
Yeah, so why are the chiefs favored and I saw that there yeah minus three. I don't get that I do think the chiefs of win Well, they did so then there you are But I I mean I'm thinking last minifilm go the winback one. I mean it's If anything you're counting on butkers that what you're doing I'm counting on buck I'm counting on the bucks from at least 55. Yeah, yeah, it's from 35 Or or an extra point I am that I'm not given or yeah If I if I bet on the game, which I don't think I'm going to I just go ahead and go money money line on it And just you know, if chiefs win they win they win they lose they lose but I do think that it's gonna be a very very close game It's you know 28 27 something crazy like that. It's gonna be really close Although that that would for wouldn't fit although I don't think the chiefs are gonna score 28 points I don't know why stuff that maybe 10 9 let's do that
43 and a half right now is the number the total that would be 23 20 Yeah, we've come down right yeah, it's it would be like to wonder on that I want to believe that Andy's gonna take a big step that that he's gonna outfox the league and He's definitely gonna Get the Broncos because they haven't had a chance to see anything on tape and what they're gonna do And so are they gonna run effectively and they're still gonna throw it I mean he likes to throw it up, but I just hope that with an effective running game that play action over 30 31 and a half is Pass attempts over under I Mean I think it depends on under I don't know that I don't think that's a good bet I think that's if the chiefs play from in front under yeah if the chiefs are trailing way over yeah I think if they go down 7 or 10 points like Pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass People are saying that all the times that he does run he'll throw it because he doesn't want to run around and make plays
He's gonna go ahead and just dump it off to somebody so they're worth throwing out of bounds. Yeah, hopefully I am hoping we see You know him in a little bit more rhythm and under center and it's the most anticipated opener I can remember in a long time. It's gonna be a fun one. They will be alright What is the only NFL team to retire the same Jersey number for three different players brought to you by Lafeta Delicateson
More episodes
