Hassan Shibly: He Explains “Sacrifice” So Clearly It Changes Everything | DSH #1747

You give in charity. You help the poor. You speak out against injustice.

And when you make the world better, you're honoring God. You become beloved to God.

So that's the whole thing you need for Allah in a nutshell.

Beautiful. Yeah, being grateful and being humble is very important to me.

It's the essence. The Quran says,

What would God gain by punishing you if you give thanks and believe?

In another verse, it says that if you think me, I will increase you.

And I believe just God created us for us to express gratitude.

Okay, guys, we got Hassan in studio today making his way back to the mainstream, man.

Thanks for coming on. Pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me.

Were you taking a break intentionally from social media?

Kind of walked me through that. And it's just, I've been really focusing on building my law firm

and philanthropy and charity work, especially what we're seeing. I mean, we're so blessed to live in

America and we live such comfortable lives, but you look around the world. You see children starving,

children being killed. I mean, you see the situation in Gaza.

Tens of thousands of children butchered with our own weapons and I feel a burden that as Americans,

we got to give back. So I've tried to focus a lot on raising money for humanitarian aid,

help the children, medical aid, and just trying to make the most of the blessings God gave me.

So it is a struggle to balance between doing the real work and then the social media.

People sometimes think social media is the real work, but the real work happens offline.

Yeah, beautiful man. Yeah, law firm must be a total different lifestyle than a social media

influence. 100%. And that's what I am. I'm a lawyer first and foremost.

I've got an decent following couple hundred thousand on Instagram and like tens of thousands

on different platforms, but it was never intentional. It was just through the fruit of doing the work

that we do. What type of law do you expect, Slava?

So I ran one of the largest American Muslim civil rights organizations for 10 years,

called CARE. It was just an honor to do that. I actually decided to become a lawyer when I was

17 and I just came back from an Islamic conference and they told us going for a random inspection.

My mom said, what do you mean random? I'm like, mom, random means they saw your headscarf,

but I was joking. Anything that would be the case. And when I walked into the room, I was shocked.

There were just 40 Muslims and we were all held for six hours. We were all U.S. citizens.

We were fingerprinted, interrogated, first treated like criminals just for attending

an Islamic conference in Canada. And that really scared me to be honest because my family immigrated

from Syria. We came to America seeking freedom and liberty where the government can't treat you

differently because of your political views or religious views. I think that's what makes America

amazing. And if we lose that, we lose the heart and soul of America. So that night, I decided,

do you know what? I want to become a lawyer and protect the freedom and liberty that makes America

great. So I ended up going to law school, then ran care for 10 years and then started my own law

firm a few years ago. Respect. I appreciate you. And how do you see the profile and get worse

or better since you started? It's had its ups and downs. I think the worst was around 2010,

2011, anti-Muslim discrimination in 2011 was actually much higher than when it was after 9-11.

Really? Yeah. Because people think Islamophobia and anti-Muslim hate is a reaction to bad things

bad Muslims did. But the reality is every religious group has bad people that do bad things. So it's

not a natural reaction. It's actually orchestrated. It's funded. And you know, a lot of times it's

just a cop-up for politicians who don't have real solutions to the real problems played in America.

So they want to scapegoat the Muslim community. A lot of it is also heavily sin is funded. I mean,

Zionists are spending hundreds of millions of dollars to demonize Islam to basically enable their

ability to promote hate against the Muslim community and therefore hate against Palestinians and then

allow the American government to send billions of dollars to support Israel at the expense of the

American people. They can't do that if they don't demonize Muslims first. So, you know, in the years

after 9-11, anti-Muslim sentiment was much higher. And unfortunately, we've obviously seen a

resurgence since post-October 7th as well. So we've been very, very busy as attorneys. I'll tell

you that. But I love what I do because it's not just about protecting the Muslim community. It's

about protecting American liberty for everyone. It's about protecting the US Constitution. We're so

grateful for the Constitution. I mean, I think it's what makes America one of the best nations in the

world. And we all have an obligation to keep America first and do whatever we can to preserve the

Constitution for all people. You know, I want I want a country where children of all people who

go to the race or religion can grow up proud of their faith without fearing intimidation or harassment.

That's what it's about. Well said. So you're part of the America first movement. I mean, not in any

formal way, but I'm a big believer to America first. I believe that our tax dollars just stay at

home. We shouldn't be sending billions of dollars to any country, although it sees when our own

people are struggling. And frankly, let's keep our tax dollars in our own pockets. People

work hard. Why are we taxing people's hard work? I mean, it's crazy, right? We had a revolution

because people don't want to pay a 2% T tax. And now we're paying 40, 30 crazy percent, you know,

depending on people's income levels, it's absolutely wild. If it wasn't for taxes, I would have been

retired by now. Amen. I'm really literally literally. And then you can't even you can't even own

your home now, right? You know, you're renting your home from the government. You're paying real

estate tax. You're you're paying on what you earn. You're paying on what you spend. I don't think

that's what America was made for. You know what I'm saying? And so I'm a big believer in America

first. I believe in keeping our tax dollars at home. And I'm very saddened to see a lot of

politicians destroy and undermine American liberty for the benefit of foreign nation. And I

think that's what we're seeing happening in regards to Israel, right? You're finding people

being targeted by the government, people facing deportations, people are losing their first

amendment freedom of speech, the most critical thing. Like you don't even get repercussion for

criticizing America, but you'll get repercussion if you criticize Israel. And so our

politicians are undermining American liberty to benefit a foreign nation. I mean, that scares me.

I don't think we have freedom of speech anymore. We're losing. I got banned on certain platforms

for speaking out about against Israel. Not even me, my guess. That is wild. So I'm banned on

a couple platforms. Why is it the golden calf that no one can speak about? You know, and I think

Americans got to start waking up. I think they are. And that's why you know, it's crazy.

Is on social media on X in particular over the last few months. We've seen a huge resurgence

of anti-Muslim hate. They're trying to think that Muslims are some sort of third column

that we're taking over the country that we're trying to impose our faith and our laws. When

really, I think every accusation is a confession. Lukus promoting these lies. It's Zionists.

And Lukus controlling Congress. It's Zionists. And Lukus getting billions of our tax dollars. It's

Zionists. So they're the ones that are unduly influencing America. They're the ones that are

sucking out our tax dollars for the benefit of a foreign nation. They're the ones that are

undermining freedom of speech at home. But they want to scapegoat. And they want to blame the

Muslims instead as a distraction. So they can continue to undermine the American people. And that's

the crazy thing. You saw Trump when he was talking about Miriam Adelson who funds hundreds of millions

of dollars in anti-Muslim effort and pro-Zionist effort. He said, you know, I asked her, just you love

Israel first or America first and she wouldn't answer. And he said, I think she may actually love

Israel more. And that's the truth. And this is a form of treason in my mind. As an American,

I'm proud to keep America first. I want to protect the Constitution. And I want our tax dollars

to stay at home. Yeah, it is concerning that even at the presidential level, you could be somewhat

compromised, right? Absolutely. And what I do respect about Trump, though, is that he speaks openly.

Like he's not hiding. He didn't hide that Miriam Adelson's got billions and she's influencing

politics. I don't respect that he's allowing this to happen. I don't respect that he's complicit.

I don't respect that he's allowing Israel's interests to Trump American interests. Part in the

pun. But at the same time, I do appreciate that at least he's speaking about it in the open.

Do you think it's purely just a money thing for some of these people?

Yeah, I mean, look, it's a mix. So I think a lot of it is about money. Some of them are driven

by creed. Some of them are driven by greed. But again, what boggles my mind is how anyone can

justify what our tax dollars are doing in Gaza and what they've done in Gaza. I mean, the civilian

death toll has been insane. You can't accidentally kill tens of thousands of civilians. When you're

accidentally killing tens of thousands of civilians, it goes from being an accident to being intentional.

Yeah. Would you label it a genocide?

Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think it comes from not seeing the victims of this genocide as equal

human beings, the Palestinians, the Muslims, they've been dehumanized. And only when you dehumanize

people, can you tolerate seeing such utter carnage. I mean, people can just look at the footage

of Gaza for themselves. The place is flattened. For the last couple of years, every single day,

I open my phone and I see pictures of young children dismembered blown to pieces with American

weapons. You know, I have four children myself. I love my four-year-old daughter. I love all my

kids. And when I see those Palestinian children, I see my own kids in them. And that's what faith

is supposed to teach us. We have to love all of the children's if they are own. That's what the

message of God is. And that's what blows my mind when anyone believes in God, but they can justify

this kind of violence. You cannot honor the creator when you dishonor his creation. The worst of

crimes in the sight of God is to shed the blood of the innocence. And too many people have used faith

to justify that. And it's got to stop. Yeah, I definitely agree with that. They're using faith

as a weapon now, right? It's wild. It's a Christian nationalism movement. What are your thoughts on that?

Yeah. Look, I think, look, I'll be very frank. I would love to see America be a more Christian

nation. I have no problem with that. I believe Christianity has beautiful values, beautiful

principles as long as it allows the free expression of all other faiths. And as long as it doesn't

enforce the faith through the government, but if more people are adhering to Christian faith values,

I think that's a beautiful thing. But I think they need to be sincere in their beliefs because the

most wild thing is finding Christians that are supporting Israel. When you look at how many

nuns have been killed by snipers in Gaza and in Palestine. Yes. And when you look at how many

Christian leaders, I mean, Bethlehem, they actually didn't celebrate Christmas last year. They

didn't have their official celebrations. They said, how can we celebrate when our people are

being killed and we'll find a lot of Arab Christians talking out and saying, listen, we are

Christians, we're Palestinians, we're Arab and Israel is killing us. You see, you see Christians

visiting Jerusalem, they're being spit at by Israelis over there. They don't respect Jesus.

I mean, Tatum said that 100% and you gotta see what are they, what do they say about Jesus Christ?

I mean, they literally say he's boiling in an excrement and hellfire. Meanwhile, we Muslims,

we honor Jesus. So I want to see a stronger relationship between Muslims and Christians in the

U.S. I believe the Zionist movement has spent a lot of money to turn Muslims and Christians

against each other to enable the Zionist movement to take away billions of our tax dollars for

the benefit of Israel. And I think the American people are starting to see through it and they've

had enough. Yeah. I hope people wake up to it. Have you track the flow of this Zionist money?

Like, have you seen where it starts and how? Yes. There's a lot of great reports. Care is

published some reports on it. People can also Google Fear Inc and read the data and the study and see

who's behind it. I mean, the guy who bought TikTok. Yeah. He's have, have he involved in it?

Oh, wow. Yeah. I got banned there too, man. Ever since that takeover by him? You can't post shit

about it. And how are the American people comfortable with someone like him buying TikTok? You're

worried about the Chinese man. You got to be worried about these guys. They're literally

censoring Americans at home and they're impacting their ability to earn their livelihood. I mean,

that's what they do. They're the biggest proponents of cancel culture. Yeah. And that's antithetical

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Like, and that's why I told you I said listen, I'm happy to debate anyone who wants to debate

Islam, right? Because I believe in my faith. I'm confident. I'm not insecure. If you want to promote

hate, let them promote hate as long as we can have a chance to challenge it and let the audience decide.

The best idea is when. That's how it should be. Yeah, that's how it should be.

Yeah, it's it's concerning though. Because if TikTok and fall, what's the next platform and then it

keeps going? You know what I mean? It's wild. You know, I saw a video from one of the meta executives

and she's like, you know, and she's a proud Zionist and she's like, I'm so proud in my career

that I've shut down so many pages and censored those that say we control the media. Well, don't they

see the irony of that? It's wild. Yeah, because the younger, I don't know if you've seen this

grab the younger demographic support Palestine. 100%. Yeah, heavily. 100% and I think that's what

they're so afraid of the next generation, which isn't brainwashed by the mainstream media. And

that's how they used to do it. See, before there were very, you know, few gatekeepers and they

controlled access to information and the Zionists spent again hundreds of millions to sell their

lives. You got to look up the Hasparal Playbooks. I mean, it's wild. You can see whenever civilians are

killed, all these American politicians, all these media outlets saying the same talking points

defending the killing of civilians. There's a playbook at play. But now, especially with

Musk opening up X, having more diverse voices and people are seeing firsthand what Israel is doing.

Again, you just see firsthand kids being blown up every single day and anyone with a mind can think

you can't do this by X accident. This is a policy. Even on October 7th, people are shocked to learn

hundreds and hundreds of Israelis that were killed that day were killed by Israel under the

Hannibal directive. It's actually part of their military command rules not to allow hostages

to be taken and they would rather kill their own civilians and soldiers than let them be taken

as hostages. And look, people have said now they should have released the hostages, the violence

will stop. Well, guess what? Hamas has released all the hostages. Did the violence stop? It hasn't stopped.

In fact, before October 7th, that year was the most deadliest year for Palestinian children

before October 7th. None of this conflict started on October 7th. The problem again is that

the Zionists have spent so much money to demonize the Palestinians and to promote their hatred. But

thanks to the advent of social media, I think their narrative is falling apart and people are waking up.

Yeah, the hostages got released, but they're still fighting. They're still being bombed. It's

even fighting. Hundreds of civilians have been killed just in the past couple weeks alone. It hasn't

stopped. So they might have done that intentionally then? 100%. I mean, their plan is to

have this greater Israel that takes over part of Syria. I mean, I'm a proud Syrian. The

President of Syria was just recently in the White House, meaning the President Trump, and yet

I was just reading about a young man who had just gotten married in southern Syria and then

Israel invaded and they killed him. Wow. You know, and dozens of civilians just recently killed

by Israel. So they're in Syria now? They've been in coaching in Syria. I mean, they've occupied

the colonheids for some time. Now they're again sending their forces and their bombs and their bullets

into the villages on the border. All we want is peace. The problem with Israel, I'm going to be

very clear about it, is that the people claim the Zionist claim that they want a Jewish democracy.

Well, that's an oxymoron. You really can't have a Jewish democracy when the majority of people

there are not Jewish. If you include the Arab, a Christian, and Muslim Palestinians that are in Gaza,

that are in the West Bank, Jews will no longer be a majority in the land that they call Israel.

And so it can't both be Jewish and a democracy. And I think they're choosing Jewish identity over

democracy. And there's no real democracy. That's why President Jimmy Carter said, published a book

about Israel being in apartheid state. If you are a Christian in Palestine, you literally have

less legal rights than the Jews there. Wow. And that's discriminatory. We believe in a one-state

solution, one land for all people and one person, one voice, equality under the law. That's what we're

calling for. We're calling for equal rights for all in that land. And that's what they're against.

We support equality, freedom, liberty, and democracy. They support in apartheid genocidal

ethno-state. Yeah. So that being said, I know you're very optimistic, but is there a realistic

solution to all this? Or do you think there's just going to be fighting nonstop? I mean, look,

it's quite interesting. And I think Muslims and Christians have a lot in common in terms of

sort of the end of times theology, right? And ultimately, both the Muslims and the Christians

actually believe Jesus, peace be upon them, will return. And people are shocked to believe that

that we as Muslims believe Jesus will descend from the heavens, come to earth and establish

justice amongst humanity. But I think we're all responsible for what we do on a day-to-day.

I believe life is a simulation. It's a test. It's an illusion. God put us here to do the one

form of worship we can do that the angels can't do. And that's that we can sacrifice for God to

make the world better. The angels can't sacrifice. Really? Because they're not tempted. In the Islamic

theology, angels are pure. They're sinless. They can't sacrifice. They have no oppression,

no hunger, no wealth, no desire for wealth. So they can't get the blessings of sacrificing

to help the poor, to help the needy, to speak truth to power, to serve God, to make the world

better. When you sacrifice for God, you become beloved to God. This is why in Islamic theology,

the righteous human who sacrifices to make the world better is greater and more beloved to God

than the angels. So I believe this life is a test for each and every one of us. And as long as we're

speaking out for truth and we're trying to help the poor and the needy and the oppressed children,

we're winning no matter what the outward results are. When you say sacrifice, can you expand on that

because I think like physically, but yeah, so I mean, it's any form of sacrifice. So sacrifice

could be sacrificing your ego, not being arrogant. If you're in a relationship and your partner

upsets you sacrificing your anger, right? Sacrificing your greed, giving in charity,

being willing to sacrifice your job, if you're going to criticize Israel's genocide,

and you may lose your job, but you still speak out, you know? So just any form of sacrifice,

that's the one worship we can do that the angels cannot do. Whatever good you do that requires

sacrifice is the key to the divine love because look at it within your own life. You will never love

those that have never sacrificed for you. Like you love those that have sacrificed for you.

Wow, that's true. Yeah, you know, the respect isn't there if they have

in sacrifice. Exactly. You know, our one of the greatest Muslim scholars to give a beautiful

example, Ibn Klayim, he said that when our father Adam peace be upon him, descended from the heavens

to the earth, our enemy Satan rejoiced. He celebrated because Adam is leaving the world of peace

and tranquility to coming down to this world of finite temporary loss and suffering. So

Satan thought this was the downfall of Adam, but Imam Al-Klayim writes that Satan

and recognize that only when the diver descends from the top of the ocean to the bottom,

can he collect rare and valuable pearls and bring it back up. Likewise, God sending Adam and

Austin to this world is just like a diver coming down. We have a limited amount of breaths

then we go back up to our real life and we were sent on a mission. What's that mission to collect

rare and valuable pearls? What are those rare and valuable pearls? They're the acts of worship

that even the angels in the heavens cannot do. What can we do that the angels can't do? We can

sacrifice for God. The angels cannot sacrifice for God. And what does sacrificing for God mean?

It literally means working to make the world better because you can't honor the creator

if you don't honor his creation. You can't claim to love God, but then this honor his creation

and it doesn't work like that. If you read the Quran, it's a very beautiful, beautiful theme,

which the Quran starts by humbling you, reminding you that you are nothing. God is everything.

You are weak. God is great. Once you're humble, then you appreciate everything. God gives you

vision, hearing, sight, sound, heart, consciousness, mind. You appreciate all of God's blessings. This

is why a person who's connected with the divine, they don't get bored because they even recognize

the beauty of seeing color, the beauty of nature, the beauty of being. So you become grateful.

When you're grateful, then you fall in love. You love God. God, you've given me so much,

even though I don't deserve it. And I can never repay you. So when you love God, then you're

willing to sacrifice. When you're willing to sacrifice, you can make the world better. You give

in charity. You help the poor. You speak out against injustice. And when you make the world better,

you're honoring God. You become beloved to God. So that's the whole theme, the Quran in a nutshell.

Beautiful. Yeah, being grateful and being humble is very important to me. It's the essence.

The Quran says, what would God gain by punishing you if you give thanks and believe? In another verse,

it says that if you, if you think me, I will increase you. And I believe just God created us

for us to express gratitude to sacrifice and express gratitude. That's what it is. And when you're

when you're grateful, you find happiness. The Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said,

the first people to enter heaven on the day of judgment and those who enter heaven without judgment

are those who thank God in good times and bad times. They love God so much. They trust God so much.

They rely on God so much that no matter what happens in life, good or bad, they're always grateful.

They always thank God through that they enter heaven without judgment. And the truth of the matter

is they're in heaven even now in terms of their heart because they're not shaken by every little

calamity that happens in life. They realize that God never takes you only gives every loss. It's just

an opportunity for us to get something better or do something better. So it either teaches you or

it elevates you. So I believe that our elevation is through our tribulation that nothing bad ever

happens, that whatever happens to us, even things we hate the most, it's God's way of elevating us,

teaching us, enriching us. And as long as we have the gratitude attitude, then our elevation

will always come even through our tribulation. That is powerful, man. I didn't know you had

the spiritual side to you. That's what I'm very passionate about, bro. I mean, that's what drives

everything I do. It's what drives my charity work, my political work, my social media work,

my legal work. I believe we were put on earth as God's representatives. You know, the Quran,

it's actually a beautiful story that God told the angels. I'm appointing a representative on

earth, an ambassador of ice yarn on earth. And the angels said, Oh, God, will you place on the earth

those who will cause corruption and shed blood while we glorify you and sing your praise? And

that's a profound question. Because when you look out on social media, when you look on the news,

that's exactly what human beings are doing. They're shedding blood. They're causing corruption.

And the angels themselves ask, and this is a question we should ask ourselves, why did God create

us? Well, it's greatest worship. But he already had angels that worship him without doing all the

bad things that we do. And again, the answer is because we, because we have the freedom to be

God's enemies when we do evil, we have the opportunity to be God's friends and his most beloved

when we do good in this earth. That's why we're here again, to serve him and to be grateful.

You know, angels, they have intellect, but no desire. Humans, animals have desire and no

intellect. Humans have both intellect and desire. When we choose our intellect over our desire,

we rise higher in the sight of God than the angels. When we choose our desires over our intellect,

we fall worse in the sight of God than animals. That is fascinating. I feel like a lot of people

fall into desire. I mean, desire is the destroyer of kings. I mean, desire can make kings into slaves,

right? And the Crohn says, have you seen the one who has taken his desires as his God? And it could

be very, very destructive. And all the spiritual past teach mastering one's desire. You know,

the Crohn gives an example that the one who worships God alone, they're in a very high point.

But when they go to seek to worship to desire other than God, then one of two things happens to

them. Either a violent wind snatches them and drops them in a valley or birds tear them to pieces.

And that's a metaphor. It's an example. The violent wind represents one's own desires.

You think that, okay, if I get this girl, I'll be happy. If I go to this party, I'll be happy.

If I get this much money, I'll be happy. If I buy this girl, I'll be happy. And you spend your

whole life chasing, chasing, chasing, chasing. And most people don't even get everything they chase.

And even when they get it, they start losing it until they lose their own life. And their desires

just lead them to ruin. They never find satisfaction. The birds represent people. Instead of trying to

please God who wants what's best for you, people get busy just trying to please others, right? And so

people take advantage of you, use you and just tear you apart. But when you keep God as number one

in your life and he only wants what's best for you because he made you for him. God created the whole

universe for us and he made us for him to have that loving relationship with him. So when we put

God first and we control our desires, we can be the best version of ourselves and we can make the

world better. That's what it's all about my mother. This is this is really powerful stuff, man.

Thank you for sharing all this. Of course. Yeah, it sounds like you've got a lot of research on this.

Well, it's it's how I try to live my life, man. It's it's I'm just very grateful. I'm very

grateful to be to be present, to be alive, to be Muslim, to be American, to have to be a lawyer,

to have everything that I have. And I want to express gratitude to God and I feel the best way to do

that is by sharing his love and serving his creation. And that's what Prophet Muhammad taught me,

my mentor, my example. Do you still believe these angels are around? You've mentioned angels.

Oh, yeah. I believe angels are absolutely around physical sense or spiritual. I mean, it's it's

hard to explain, right? I mean, I believe there's other dimensions. I believe in the multiverse. I

believe there's there's realities around us right now that we can't even see or or tap into.

But I believe angels are real. And God appoints angels to protect us, to record our actions,

to testify for against us. But ultimately, it's God alone that's in charge. He has no partners,

no equals. He's in control. Dangerous. So guardian angels almost. We believe in and guardian

angels. But again, it's a form of means. Everything comes from God. So for example, if I'm hungry and

you provide me food, I believe God provided me the food through you. Whoa. So like channeling almost.

Well, a means God made the world a world of means. So in Islamic, the algae, we believe God can just say

be and everything is, but he created the world in stages in the Quran says he created it in six days.

That's to teach us an example that if you want anything, you have to work for it. You have to plan it.

And if you want to be a successful leader, you need to delegate. God doesn't need to delegate. He has

all power at all times. He's infinite in his strength and his knowledge and his capabilities.

He neither gains nor loses. And that's another thing, which is very interesting because we also,

we don't believe God can sacrifice, right? I think in some Christian theology, they believe,

oh, well, God sacrificed his son. For us, God is infinite and he cannot lose. He cannot sacrifice.

We are the ones that sacrifice for him. So with all that being said, we believe God's in charge,

but he has, we believe there's angels who believe their spirits called the gin, which is interesting.

Yeah, which is why even they call the alcoholic drinks gin, right? And people start acting like a

gin when they take much of them. Exactly. And it weakens the heart and the mind and the gin can have

more influence. And look for, you know, if you know people that have explored psychedelics, I mean,

people feel like they've seen gin. They've seen different things. It's, you know, I think some of

them have been weaponized by government agencies. You know, I believe that they are working to bring

about the anti-Christ and to support the anti-Christ. And we believe in the anti-Christ,

it's interesting because I think the, you know, the sign is they're waiting for their sort of

Messiah to come. We believe that will be the anti-Christ. And the Muslims and the Christians will

unite to fight against him. Wow. So that you've actually seen them united. Oh, 100%. We will be united.

Because right now there's so much divide. Yeah. And who's behind it? Those that are supporting the

coming of the anti-Christ, who they believe is the Messiah. So there's a game. There's a game

being played and the game is to turn Muslims and Christians against each other. That's why I'm

very passionate about bringing us together. And then I do believe when we fight the anti-Christ,

eventually Jesus will return. And he will unite us. Now when he returns, we believe he will tell

us worship the Creator. He's greater than I. And that's what it even says in the Bible. You know,

don't call me good. You know, he is the good one. You know, but he will unite us in worshiping God

alone. And that's the essence of Islamic theology and the difference. Look, I'll be very frankly,

there's definitely real differences between Christianity and Islam. I don't believe that

interfaith dialogue and friendship is where we pretend to agree with each other on everything.

And then build a false friendship based on that. I believe real interfaith relationship is where

we recognize we have real differences. But these differences need not divide us from working towards

what our faith calls us to. What does Christianity call people to? Helping the poor, helping the needy,

helping the oppressed. The same is what Islam calls for. We need to unite on that. But yeah, I do

believe there's active forces trying to turn us Muslims and Christians against each other,

but I believe they will fail. And more and more people are waking up. And that's why right now,

you're seeing a manufactured increase of anti-Muslim sentiment on X in particular. They're trying to

scapegoat us and turn us against each other. Yeah, X is just a while to us right now. It really is.

Like I thought I was really excited when Elon took over at first. I thought it'd be an overall

positive, but now I don't know. Well, I mean, it's wild because you could say like, you could say

something about Muslims, about Christians. You say the same thing about Jews and it'll censor you,

but it won't do the same for the others. Why is there special protection? There shouldn't be

special protection for any group in my opinion. It should be equal treatment for everyone. The

other thing is you write anti-Muslim posts. They're going viral. Yeah, super viral. Super viral.

Super viral. And everything I brought. I put a message about let's have peace among Jews,

among Christians. It doesn't attract attention. But some idiots said something stupid about Islam.

They don't even know what they're talking about. And it just goes viral. The algorithm is supporting

it. And that's a problem. But that's why I think, man, we just got to get into know each other.

So I always have this invitation, especially for those who hate Muslims, come and get to know us.

Come break bread with us. You know, let's get to know each other and see how can we keep America

the best things because then they listen. I'm Muslim. My children are Muslim. Maybe someone else is

Christian. They're children on Christian. And then the day our children are going to grow up here.

And I want America to be the best place for my children and your children and all of our

children together. We're not going to be here for long. We're leaving this earth for our children.

What kind of world do we want to leave them? Right. So you don't limit when it comes to your

children's friendships, if the other person is in a Muslim or... Yeah, you know, my father,

who I just I just visited in Santa Monica, it was just a great example for me. What I really

respect and appreciate about him is growing up. Whenever like Jehovah's Witness would come over,

he would invite me, come son, listen to them. Learn from the interesting. Make your own decision

about life because religion cannot come through force. You know, it has to be a choice from within

the heart. And you can't really make that choice if you haven't studied what else is out there.

And I'm very grateful. My father also growing up. Man, when I was younger, I was like, man, I just,

I pray my father could just have the longest life because he really raised me with a message of

building interfaith relations. Not a fake one where we all sing kumbaya up and to agree. No, we

recognize real differences, but we navigate them to serve the Creator together. You know, that's

what it's about. So he would take me with him to so many churches that he spoke at and just very,

very blessed to have built really strong relations with the people, different faiths because of

the upbringing that I had. Fascinating. So very open-minded. A hundred percent. And this was the

teachings of our of our of our sheikh, our scholar. He was the Grand Mufti of Syria, sheikh Ahmed

Guftaro. People can look up his book, The Way of Truth, where he spoke at the UN and at the Vatican

and all over the world about. Listen, if we all claim to believe in God, then we have to work

together to serve God. And you cannot claim to serve God when your belly is full and your

neighbor is hungry. It doesn't matter what they what religion they are, right? If you believe

there is one God, then you believe he's the God of us all. And if you know, you belong to God,

I have to honor you. I can't claim to love your Creator, but hate you as a person. It's not how it

works. A lot of debate right now about Sharia law. Yeah, or Shakira law or Shanei law. They don't

even know what it is. They don't even know what it is. But again, this is exactly one of those

red herrings. Like there is no threat of Sharia. People didn't understand what Sharia is. Sharia

literally means the path, the path to water, the path to success. And it's based on preservation of

five things, the same five things that the U.S. Constitution seeks to protect. Sharia is about

the preserving. It's called Makhosa, the Sharia, the goals of Sharia. It's about protecting

religion, honor, intellect, wealth, and health. That's all what it's about. And anything that is

prohibited in Sharia is prohibited because it harms those things. As Muslims, we don't drink

why? Because alcohol could harm your honor, could harm your health, could harm your wealth. So

it's prohibited. But as part of Sharia, we are not allowed to enforce it on others. A hundred

percent, even under Islamic rule, like in the Islamic civilization, I mean, if you study

history, you see the most tolerant civilizations were the Islamic civilization. And so they would

have a universal law that applies to everyone, like you can't kill. You can't steal when it comes

to human rights, those are universal. But when it comes to the spiritual, the religious rights,

whether you can drink alcohol, marriage, all these things, then every religious group, like the

Muslims, Christians, the Jews, they would have their own courts and their own judges,

by which they would answer to. So you would live under Islamic civilization, but your Jewish

or your Christian, well, you report to the Christian or to the Jewish judge, not to the Muslim

judge when it comes to the personal affairs. And Islam really emphasized protection of minorities

and others. The Prophet Muhammad said, whoever harms a Jew or a Christian living under a Muslim

Muslim rule, I will be the advocate for that Jew or Christian against the Muslim on the day of

judgment. In another example, I mean, if you visit Syria, which I would love to host you there,

I mean, it's incredible. Damascus, where I was born, is the oldest living city on earth.

Wow. Over 4,000 years old, continuously inhabited. And you go in the center, there's the Umayyid mosque.

The Umayyid mosque used to be a Byzantine temple. After that, it became a church. When Islam

spread into Damascus, the Muslims actually asked the Christians, hey, we need a place to pray.

This is a big temple you're using as a church. Do you mind if we share some space with you?

And they said, sure, no problem. The situation was, however, the Muslims kept growing through

voluntary conversion as people resonated with the message that God is one honor humanity. So people

started becoming Muslim. As they started becoming Muslim, they started out. Number of the Christians,

guess what they did? They kicked the Christians out. And this is under the Islamic rule.

So what did the Christians do? They went to the Islamic judge and said, this is our church. You guys

kicked this out. This is not acceptable. You know what the judge ruled? God will never accept a

prayer on stolen land. The Muslims must evacuate the mosque. This is under the Islamic caliphate.

This is under the caliphate, under Sharia law. The Muslims were up. Meanwhile, if you visit

Europe, you won't find any ancient mosques because they were destroyed by the Crusaders and by the

Inquisition. They didn't protect our mosques, but we protected their churches. When I'm in Syria,

my neighbors are Christian. Their church is next to the mosque. They still speak our make, the

original language of Jesus Christ in parts of Syria. You know, I was just in Syria beginning

the year doing charity work with my Christian neighbors. It's a beautiful thing. So get this when

when the judge ordered the Muslims out, the Muslims said, but you're honor. There's literally no

room for us. Where else are we going to pray? He's like, not my problem. You've got to figure it,

make a deal with the Christians. So they went to the Christians and they said, listen, we need the

place. How can we work something out? They said, all right, we'll make you a deal. You Muslims can

have the Umayyad mosque. You can pray there. We could turn into a mosque on the condition you

build four churches for us around the mosque. If you do that, we'll do it at an event trade.

They said, sure. So to this very day, you'll see the four churches around the Umayyad mosque that

was built by Muslims for Christians. This was under Islamic rule. No other empire treated minorities

like that. That's actually impressive. Yes. You know your history. I love to live it, man. Wow.

How did not know that at all? I would have assumed they wouldn't let them back. No, that's because

this is the essence of Islam that God is one. And okay, we made this agree with the theology, but I

can't dishonor the Quran itself says, do not insult the gods that they call upon. Do not disrespect

the others. Honor, honor people. The Quran is has a very beautiful message. It says, listen,

righteousness is not that you pray to the east or the west. The Muslims pray to the east.

Christians were praying to the west. That's not what righteousness is. What you call yourself,

how you leave yourself. Righteousness is to believe in God in the last day, to help the poor,

to help the needy, to support those that are oppressed, to be patient in times of anger.

That's what righteousness is. It's not what you label yourself. See, people don't understand Islam

really is universal. It means peace through surrender to God. And a Muslim is one who surrenders to God.

So as a Muslim, I actually believe that was the message of all of the prophets. I believe Abraham

taught Islam because he taught peace through submission to God. I believe he was Muslim. He surrendered

to God. I even believe in a respectful way that Jesus was Muslim. What does Muslim mean? One

who surrenders to God and we believe Jesus surrendered to God. We believe he taught peace through

submission to God. So if you taught Islam, you don't find in the Bible Jesus or Moses or Abraham

saying God has sent me to teach you Judaism or Christianity and you must become Jews or Christians.

They never used that language, but they did use the language surrender to God. Have peace with God.

Give yourself to God. So we believe all of the gods, all of God's prophets, they were all taught

Islam and they themselves were Muslim. They may have had different rules, different laws,

but in terms of the faith, it was all have peace through surrender to God. Even when you read the

Bible, how did Jesus greet His companions? He said, peace be with you. That's how we Muslims

greet each other. The salamu alaykum peace be with you. You find Jesus when he prayed he would get

on his knees, his hands, his forehead bowing down to God. We bow down to God. The Prophet Muhammad

gave us a beautiful example. He said, the prophets before me are all brothers, paternal brothers.

Their mothers are different, but their religion is one. And I am the final of these messengers

and the closest messenger to me is Jesus. There was none between him and I. You know, he said,

the example the prophets before me and like me is like someone builds a beautiful building.

Everyone sees that building says it's missing a cornerstone. He didn't say I came to demolish and

build my own. He said, I'm that cornerstone. I just came to complete the message just surrender

to one God alone on his creation. That's it. Beautiful. Do you believe in any modern day prophets?

No, I believe prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was was the final messenger of God. I believe the

Quran one of the big reasons I Muslim is the Quran is literally and I will challenge anyone with

$10,000 to prove me otherwise. It's the only book that claims to be from God that was never changed

throughout history. So we believe the Quran is the literal word of God. The prophet Muhammad was the

final messenger of God and because the Quran was never changed there's no need for an additional

prophet. Now that being said, I do believe there's many friends of God that are out there. I believe

that God may also give a kind of encouragement and inspiration perhaps through dreams, but nothing

that would, you know, change the divine law or setting you creed for humanity, you know, but

it's not that complicated. People over complicate religion, dude. It's it's very simple. You came

from God, you're going to return to God, be grateful to God, honor his creation. That's it. And God is

one. That is it. That's a religious debate, but you just dumbed it down. That's it, man. And for us,

we believe anyone who declares that no one is worthy of worship, but God alone and Abraham,

Moses, Jesus, Muhammad are messengers of God, whoever says that once, they're guaranteed heaven forever.

Wow. That's it. I'm serious. 100%. What if you commit heinous acts? Now, if you commit heinous acts,

it depends on what kind of heinous acts those are. And I'll tell you why because the prophet Muhammad

taught us that there's God's rights and human rights. What do you think is greater in Islam?

God's rights or human rights based off how you're talking. Is it God? It's actually human rights.

What? Because God is infinite. You can never harm him. But humans are weak. If I disrespect God,

if I dishonor God, it doesn't harm him. But if I steal your phone, if I gossip against you,

if I injure you, I cause you real harm. This is why the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him,

gave the beautiful example. He said that the do you know who the bankrupt person is? And they said,

you know, the bankrupt person, the one who lost his money, he said, no, the bankrupt person is

the one who goes to God on the day of judgment, having fasted a lot, prayed a lot, went to the

mosque a lot. But he gossiped against this person. He made fun of this person. He injured this

person. He stole from this person on the day of judgment. God will take away all the good that he

did and give it in compensation to the people he hurt until they are left with no good deeds

and they are bankrupt. So you can't simply ask God for heaven and declare his oneness and at the same

time, cause oppression to others. If you've caused oppression to others, you have to fix it.

If you don't fix it, you got to make up for it on the day of judgment. And then eventually,

you enter heaven as well. Interesting. So, so I guess to answer a nutshell, if anyone even watching

this says, you know, I declare there's nothing more than worship of God alone and Abraham, Moses,

Jesus and Muhammad are messengers of God than they're guaranteed heaven. But if they've injured

people and didn't put a sincere effort to make up for it, they may have to compensate for that

first. So even gossiping has a form of, gossiping is the worst of success. There's a lot of people

are guilty though. The prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, taught us that like, basically gossiping,

backbiting, it's like worse than like fornication. It's terribly crap. Because look at how many,

you look, when you fornicate, I mean, assuming that, you know, you're not cheating on someone,

but if you're fornicating, you're not really hurting anyone. You may just hurt yourself,

catch a disease or something like that, you know what I'm saying? Be careful. But, you know,

you're not really hurting anyone. But when you're gossiping, you're causing injuries. Because you're

putting out that energy. Yeah. Well, you're putting out the energy, but you're also hurting someone's

reputation, hurting someone's honor. You may be tearing friends apart. You may be dividing

communities. You know, so for us, it's called, you know, it's called backbiting, because you're

literally like eating the flesh of your brother. It's one of the worst of sins in the Islamic tradition

to speak about people behind their back. Yeah, I don't know if you believe in evil eye, but

we do. I believe in that. I don't put out good news anymore. Yeah, no, it's a real thing,

but it's a real thing. Unfortunately, the evil eye is real. The prophet Muhammad said that evil

is real. And we also have protection from the Quran that to protect against the evil eye, to

protect against magic, to protect against jealousy and hatred. These things like the evil eye,

you gotta understand, jealousy, envy, I mean, arrogance, these are an ingratitude and even racism.

Really, these were all the first sins of the Satan, you know, because God honored Adam. And Satan

said, why would you honor him? I'm better than him. Are you created me from fire? You created him

from clay. I'm better than him, you know, and and he was jealous, you know, and this is the

thing you had to be very careful if you're religious, because in the Islamic tradition, we believe

there isn't a place on earth Satan didn't bow to God before he disobeyed. He was very righteous,

but he was only righteous outwardly. He didn't really love God. He wasn't sincere. So his arrogance,

his jealousy took him the wrong direction. So as Muslims were always taught to be humble, you know,

some of my Christian friends, I say, oh, you Christian, you Muslims, you don't like to say you're

guaranteed. Have it. No, listen, if we declare there's nothing worthy of worship, but God from his

messenger, God willing, we're guaranteed. But we're not going to live a life telling everyone,

yeah, we're guaranteed. And then, and then we start mistreating and being arrogant and abusing.

That's how abuse happens. You know, so we're taught to be humble. We understand we get to

heaven through God's generosity is mercy, not through our righteous deeds, but our righteous deeds

are important. That's how you ask for God's mercy. What role and influence do you see Satan playing

a huge role, man? I mean, I think he's behind Hollywood, he's behind the pornography industry,

he's behind the issues of, you know, the breakdown of the family, I mean, the politics that we're

dealing with. But you got to remember, Satan's ability is limited to whisper, to planting bad ideas.

So he can't just outright, you know, no, but he uses people, right? And he whispers and some people

give in, like don't give in to the satanic, satanic whispers and people do that. So you got to think

about, I mean, have people even thought about where do our thoughts come from? Like I'm going to say

a word, where did it come from? You know, there's, you know, in the Islamic tradition, we believe

thoughts, actions, they're inspired, they can be inspired from God, they can be inspired from angels,

they can be inspired from other people, or they can be inspired from Jin and Satan. And so we learn

actually how to differentiate between the different ideas and, wow, that's powerful. Yes. And,

and, and then apply in a healthy way, pull that off. So by studying under, under a lot of the

great scholars and they've sort of identified, like, like, okay, if some, some, some sort of thoughts,

it may actually even come from the own lower self. So it may come from, from the lower self.

These kinds of thoughts, they're probably coming from Satan. These kinds of thoughts are angelic.

These kinds of thoughts are from the divine. And so there's a tradition. I think a lot of times,

the problem people have is they just assume too much about God. The creator, the only way you can

really know him is through what he revealed about himself. And so it's not about, this is what I

think God is, or this is what I think about God is, we don't live in confusion. You know, I meet

a lot of people and everyone's confused and searching like, dude, I'm not searching. You know what I'm

saying? I know. And why do I know? Because I know for a fact the Quran was never changed. And it

claims to be from God and it was never changed. If the Quran isn't from God, no other book is from God.

That's just a fact. If the Quran isn't from God, no, and we know the Bible's been changed many times.

But it doesn't, and I think it's been changed so much that they incorporated pagan Roman beliefs.

It doesn't reflect the pure message of Jesus. Why believe is a pure monotheist?

Wow. The Quran was never changed. It calls to monotheism. And it has such powerful arguments you

can't deny. I mean, I was watching these verses, listening to these verses the other day. God says

in the Quran, don't the disbelievers see that the heavens and earth were one body and we pulled it

apart? What does that sound like? The big bang. The heaven and the earth were one body and we pulled

it apart. They didn't know that 1400 years ago. And then and we created from water every living thing.

Now modern science tells us water is the basis of life. And we made the mountains as pegs in the earth.

So it doesn't shake with you. Only in the last like 50 to 100 years that they realized the mountains

are deeper under earth than the above earth and they prevent earthquakes. This is a modern theological

discovery. Then it says, we made the heaven, the sky as a protective canopy. Now we understand

that the earth has a protective canopy in the ozone layer and the magnetic field as well that

protect from the solar flares that protect from the cosmic rays. So it talks about the earth having

a protective canopy. Then it says and we made the sun and the moon each have their own orbit 1400

years ago. They didn't know the sun has its own orbit in the universe. So here you talk about the

big bang. You talk about the mountains preventing earthquakes. You talk about the protective canopy.

You talk about the the sun having its own solar direction in the earth. It's it's own sorry what

you call orbit in the universe. And then God says, we created all this and you're going to return to us.

So prepare for that meeting. You know, we came from us. You're going to return to us. So it gave so

many scientific arguments that of things that people didn't realize 1400 years ago. And the

messages you're going to return to us. So prepare for that meeting. How do you prepare for that

meeting? Thank God. Recognize He's one and serve His creation. That is mind blowing. You said

earlier heaven and earth were one. Yes, that the heavens and the earth were all one body. And then

we pulled it apart. Wow. That is literally I'll show you the verse later. I'll even play the

recording for you. It's it's it's it's it's great. Mesmerized. What time period would that be in?

This was 1400 years ago. Oh, that's not that long. 1400. Yeah, but they didn't know that 1400

years ago. I tell you that. The big bang was only discovered, you know, within the several decades.

In another verse, it says, uh, we created the heavens with our power and we are expanding it.

Now modern science tells us the universe is expanding. They didn't know that 1400 years ago.

Right. It's scientific fact. That's scientific fact. The the some of the greatest scientists

who are behind modern embryology became Muslim when they read what the Quran says modern

embryology. The way the Quran describes the human embryo at the microscopic stages when they had

no technology to know it. Again, they they became Muslim. So if I highly encourage people to research

the Quran and science, here's another thing, bro. The miraculous thing about the Quran is the numbers.

So for example, the Quran mentions land and sea. The the word land and the word sea in direct

proportion to the ratio of land and sea to the earth. What do you mean? So the earth is about 70.

I don't remember the exact number. I can look it up for you, but it's about 71 or 72%

sea and like and then the 28% land. That's the proportion of land to sea on earth. The the sea,

the word sea is mentioned in the Quran 71% of the time. The word land is mentioned 20%. It's the exact

proportion. It's it's it's not a coincidence. And then you get look at words like the like the word

day is mentioned 365 times in the Quran. Why? The word heavens and an earth. The word day and night

is mentioned in equal proportions. It the word like angel and demon mentioned equal proportions.

It's it's it's wild. I got it. I got to show you the stone without the read this thing. Yeah. Yeah.

This is really impressive. So the Quran that's it basically has all these numeric miracles,

scientific miracles. And then it says God is one. You were you came from God, God created you.

You're going to return to him. Live a grateful life. Remember him. Be grateful. You'll be successful.

That's it. Control your ego. Control your desires. Give back. Be a source of mercy for humanity.

And you'll succeed. You'll be happy in this life and life to come. But I think it's very important

people realize like this isn't our real home man. This is not our real home. It's too fragile.

What's standing? I mean, what's standing between me and returning to God right now? The snack.

God forbid a car accident. A heart attack. How easy could life go? Right. And when people die,

there's no going back. You know, there's literally no coming back. I know people have

their different. I mean, that we believe in a resurrection event. Yeah. But there's no coming

back to this life as you know what? What do you what do you think about near death experiences?

How people die for like minutes and then they report seeing God and then well, I think it's

very simple to very similar psychedelic experiences. I think it opens the idea to people that

there's much more than what meets the eye, right? And people can experience simulated death

through psychedelic experience. Now there's no way to know if that's anything like the real death,

right? But you know, I think I think all of that as a reminder like, wow, this life is just a

blink of an eye and people also have to understand mathematics. Look, any number divided by infinity is

0%. So whether you're alive in this earth for 10 years, 50 years, 100 years, a million years,

what percent of that of eternity is that? Right? 0%. Yeah, it's not. So this life is a blink of an

eye. The front says that on the day of judgment, people will be asked, how long will you in the earth

how many years? And they will say years, we're on the earth for a day or half a day. Ask those who

kept count. And they will told, you were there for a very little time, if only you knew. And the

people who didn't make the most of this time on earth, they will say, I wish I prepared for my real

life. You know, we believe the real life is life to come. Doesn't mean you dishonor this life. No,

you are entrusted. You're a caretaker of this life. You're an ambassador of God in this earth.

And what does it mean to be an ambassador of God? And that's what the Quran calls us. It says,

in the Jair, or the Khalifa, I'm appointing a representative on earth. What does it mean to be

God's representative? It means to do the work God loves to be done in each and every circumstance.

When people are hungry, God's ambassador feeds them for the sake of God on behalf of God.

If you bar thirsty, God's ambassador gives them water. When they're misguided, he strives to guide

them. That's where God's pleasure is found. You know, a tradition says that on the day of judgment,

someone will be called to God and God will say, listen, I was hungry and you didn't feed me. I was

thirsty and you didn't give me water. I was sick. And you didn't help take care of me. And God,

the person will say, God, how could you be sick, hungry, thirsty? And God, of course,

doesn't become sick, hungry or thirsty. But God will say, my servant was hungry. Had you fed him,

you would have found me there. My servant was thirsty. Had you gave them water, you would have

found me there. The Prophet Muhammad said, the one who takes care of the widows and the needy

in the sight of God, they are equal to the one who prays all night and fasts all day. God's pleasure

is found in service to the others. Yeah. I think that's overall pretty good. When it comes to homeless

people, like, but they're on drugs or they're addicted, like, are you still giving to those people

to what's your approach with drugs? I think you have to build programs to get them out of those

circumstance. You know, one of the wild statistics is there's actually more vacant homes in the

world than our homeless people. No way. Yes. How is that possible? It's why. Well, because of the

markets and the different things and the investment properties and people locking up assets. But I

think that the homeless problem of people on, especially when they're drugs and they're sort of,

you know, creating that situation, I think it's a reflection of the breakdown of society. Like,

how many of these people came from single parent households? Probably a lot of them. How many?

That's why Sam says, listen, don't efforound outside of marriage. Because it's not about you and

the girl, bro. It's about the child that facts, you know, my parents got divorced from us. 10

and I would never want that for my kids. Exactly. You know what I mean? It's terrible. It's off.

It looks so a lot of my practice is divorce law, a family law in my own law firm, but I try my very

best to help parties avoid it. I tell them, listen, in life, you only have two choices. You can be with

an imperfect person or you can be alone. Well, no one's perfect. Exactly. So you can be with

an imperfect person or you can be alone. And sometimes it feels easier to be alone. But that's not

what's easier long term. They've done studies on lifespan. A hundred percent of that are alone

versus a hundred percent. So I always tell people, listen, what you're unhappy with your husband,

you're unhappy with your wife because of A, B, and C work to heal, work to grow. Because if you just,

okay, you're unhappy, you move on to the next relationship. How do you know you're not going to have

the same problems eventually? The honeymoon phase is going to wear out and I think people are too

used to instant ratification. That's why it's sky high divorce rates and just a lack of loyalty and

the children on the ones that pay the price. That's why as a lawyer, I always say, listen,

even if I'm ever saying the mom or dad, I'm like, dude, I don't care about you guys. I care

about your kids. They're innocent in all this love. You know, with the divorce rates in the

Muslim community or some of the lowest, right? They were. But unfortunately, I feel like the,

you know, the Muslim community, I'm not a fan of like, you know, I'm a fan of integration. I'm

not necessarily a fan of like assimilation because I feel like you're assimilating into a very

toxic culture nowadays where, you know, there's no respect for family. There's really no respect even

for leadership amongst men or appreciation for fathers and letting husbands be the guide for

the family. There's no respect for the woman to be a caretaker of the children. You know,

everyone feels like they have to work and get out there and they really dishonest idea of being

a caretaker for the home and raising children. I think that's a most noble work and I think it's

very noble in the Islamic tradition. The husband is entrusted to provide for the family. There's

no splitting the bills 50-50. The husband is fully responsible for the financial support of the

household and the wife is responsible to care of the home with the husband's financial support

and to honor her husband. I feel like the modern culture has just destroyed that, you know,

100 percent, you know, and the kids pay the price of that unfortunately and people end up miserable.

They really end up miserable as a result and there's this delusion. Well, if I get divorced,

I'll be much happier, alone, you know, I've sacrificed much for the kids. Islam teaches that

you prefer others to yourselves. You don't just worship yourself, right? So you're going to put

your kids first. Now, putting your kids first doesn't mean you stick in a miserable marriage for

the sake of the kids, but it means you put the effort to make it happy. And I believe in most

circumstances, unless there's like serious abuse and other things, but in most situations,

people got bored, you know, they lost the spark. They're not willing to put in the effort and

they could just swipe right and find their next entertainment. You know, instead, Islam teaches,

put in effort. The Prophet Muhammad said that he taught that a wife who is patient over a

difficult husband gets the reward of the wife of the Pharaoh and a husband who is patient over a

difficult wife gets the reward of Job. What does it mean to be patient? It means invest in healing

the relationship, get counseling, get the kind of support you need, and start taking responsibility.

The problem is everyone saw my rights, my rights, my rights. Very few people ask what is my

responsibility. Islam teaches us, look at what your responsibilities. You will be questioned as a

father. You will be questioned as a mother. You will be questioned. And your kids may testify against

you on the day of judgment. If you don't provide them the kind of nurturing care that they deserve,

they can do that 100%. On the day of judgment, kids will testify against their parents. If their

parents didn't provide them education, food, nurturing care, love, you know, faith is crazy. Guys,

they're still alive though. On the day of judgment, everyone is resurrected. And on that day,

people are just worried about myself, myself, you know, a mother. If she has a claim against her

children, she will seek her rights from her children. Everyone will be made whole on the day of

judgment. So if you've dishonored your parents, you will have to compensate them. If your parents

have failed you, they will have to compensate. And on that day, there's no trading with money and

gold. The trading is only in righteous good deeds that you've sent ahead. That's why I don't have

any bad, I don't hold any resentment towards any of the relationships. That's amazing. You know,

the problem with Muhammad saw a man and he said, God accepted your charity last night. And people

said, what charity? He said last night before I slept, I said, God, just anyone who's wronged me,

I forgive them for your sake. I don't want to hold any grudges in my heart. Another time he said,

the problem said, this is a man of paradise. And so one of the companions went and spent three days

with him. And finally, after three days, like, dude, I don't see anything special about you,

but the Prophet said, you're a man of paradise. What you think you do? He said, I don't go to sleep

at any night with a grudge in my heart towards anyone. I always keep a pure heart. It's a lot of,

you know, Islam teaches that whoever goes to a God with a pure heart is safe. Yo, Malayan,

from Malon, we'll have a new 11. It's a lot of people been sitting. God describes the day of

just when the Quran, it's a day where wealth and children will not benefit you, except for those

who go to God with a pure heart. You know, and so keeping the heart pure of arrogance, of greed,

of hate, of jealousy, filling it with the love of God and translating it into compassion and service

for humanity. That's the message. Beautiful, ma'am. Dude, I love where we went with this conversation.

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