Hermes: AI Is Moving Faster Than Society Can Handle | DSH #1729

AI is going to be a big problem. Like from when like chat GPT released in like 2023 to where

we are now, it's absolutely insane how fast it grew. Like now you could literally defake videos

that will probably be used in core and so imagine where we're going to be in the next few years.

It's very scary and like you said, it's not just going to be the cashiers, the Uber drivers,

it's also going to be the lawyers, it's going to be the doctors. Why would I consult a doctor

when I could ask you have GPT my problems and they can give me a prescription in 30 seconds dude.

You could literally import your blood results and it'll probably give you better advice

than a doctor. Exactly. Isn't that nuts? It's scary. I think we're living through very crazy times

right now. All right guys, we got Hermes on today. We're going to go. My man, what brings you out

to Vegas? I just wanted to fly out for the podcast. You know, I was meeting someone after this.

So yeah, I'm glad to be on here. Did you do any interviews while you were out here?

No, I was in California. One of my friends started a podcast and Vegas is pretty close.

Yeah, quick flight, quick flight. How have the interviews been lately for you and Miami?

They've been pretty good. I usually don't like doing too many podcasts. A lot of people

ask the same stuff, but sometimes I like to actually share why I believe some of the things I do

believe because a lot of people might see my videos and think, oh, he's just rage-baiting.

He might actually be racist or whatever it might be, but yeah, just kind of explain myself better.

So if you had a ballpark, what percentage of your videos are your actual beliefs first,

you're just rage-baiting? What would it be, you think? Yeah, I mean, obviously when I say Black

people should be born prison. I don't believe that. Obviously it's a joke. But a lot of them have

some truth to it. That's why a lot of people do get mad at them. I mean, people wouldn't get mad if

it was obviously clearly a joke and had no truth to it. So when I say something like that,

that obviously enrages it. People have to realize why does it make them angry.

So everything has a little bit of truth in it. Everything I say, but obviously there's a

spectrum to what I believe. I mean, they say that with all jokes. There's always a bit of truth.

And I agree or also what it makes sense. Yeah, I mean, exactly. And then you look at the people

who get mad at the jokes the most. That brings another layer to the equation. Like white people

sure, they might get mad at certain jokes more than other, but a lot less than other races.

Like when you make fun of black people, whoa, they go off the rails or Indians in particular,

I've noticed. Really? Yeah, especially on Twitter. Like you post an Indian thing, they have

like group chats where they'll just go master for your console. Hey, sirs. Yeah, I say it's

steer clear from them because you'll literally get banned. What about Asians? Yeah, Asians are

pretty chill. That's what I know. Yeah. Cause people like make fun of me or whatever from being

Asian. I'll really be cared if I back honestly. Yeah. I hear the same shit all the time. Like you

eat dog short dick jokes. All that's you know what I mean? Like I've heard it all a hundred times.

But I'm surprised Indians get mad because I thought they were chill. They are definitely not chill.

I mean, maybe some of them are, but again, there's like 1.5 billion of them. So if you anger like

1% of them, a whole army coming at you. And then like with Asians, like what are you going to

really make fun of them for? But they're smart. They're good at math. Like I don't get them.

So did you get mass reported about Indians? No, I haven't yet. But I've a few people have told me

like I've made some Indian posts that like steer clear from them. You're going to get your accounts

banned. You're going to get them shut down. And there's like group chats. Like people have

infiltrated their group chats. And they literally send the council in there. Oh, so they're

fake and being Indian infiltrating the group chat. And then reporting to you. Yeah. And a lot of

a lot of the Indians on like Twitter on these social media platforms, they use like white names,

things like that. But you can like tell by the way they type or the things they comment.

I mean, the blacks, I'll say this because Gary just debated 607 on my show. He was getting a lot of

hate. They were trying to cancel him. I'm not a fan of cancel culture. Yeah, you're not a man.

Yeah, that's that was a big problem for me too. Like obviously I'm still young, but even in like

high school, I used to just say what I thought all the time to people. I didn't care if it piss them

off. And that really enraged me when like during the cancel culture era, like obviously I was still

in high school, but I see all these people getting canceled. Then they're apologizing for saying a

joke about a certain group of people. Like that's fucking ridiculous. I'm never going to apologize

for anything. Like if I say a joke that goes too far, it's a joke at the end of the day. Maybe in

that time, I thought it was funny. And then you know, I mature a little, whatever it might be,

then I don't find it funny. Who cares? I'm not going to like that's ridiculous. That's one of

the main reasons I started my account. I want to see how far I could push the limits. And clearly

enough people aren't doing it. That's why I like blew up so fast. There's a few people out there,

but everybody's as scared of getting backlash. But you know, nobody ever does anything in person.

It's always positive when people see me. No one's tried you in person. No, never.

I get a lot of threats. They're like, oh come to this city. Come here. I mean, I'm pretty easy to

find. I usually post my location. So nobody's ever ran up on me. Hopefully they don't. But you know,

people love to talk behind a screen. But I do see people sometimes like stare at me like weird

when I'm in public. I'm like, okay, this guy probably knows. But again, they never say anything.

I mean, it's an interesting dilemma because very controversial people have said similar things

you're saying to me. Like, Anger tape, he gets a lot of hate, but every time he's in person,

all love. No, exactly. My, uh, Myron's been getting tested a little lately. But usually if he gets

a lot of love, yeah, now he's doing the street debates. So he's getting a little more people

trying him, I guess. But usually it's, it's mainly love, right? No, it's, it's absolutely always

love. I mean, I was actually at the first Myron debate. I remember I tried to come just to get

like a clip just ask him a question. I pulled up right at the end and there was like 10 Jews dancing

around him, dancing. Yeah, they were literally like jumping up and down, singing like a Hamas lover

or something. They were saying something. Yeah, no, they literally had to shut it down. Like the cops came,

um, I think Myron wanted to shut it down to not cause any more problems, but like they literally

fit the stereotype. Wow. Yeah. I mean, the Jewish stuff is a hot thing right now. If you don't

any content around that. Oh, yeah, that that's, uh, the first video that blew up the most bar,

I asked about like the six million cookie question. Yeah. I asked like a hundred nine bars.

So people love that. What's a hundred nine bars? Yeah. So let's say your friend, uh, got kicked out

of a hundred nine bars over a thousand times. Who do you think is that fault? Your friend or the

bars? And obviously common sense would say your friend. Yeah. Because I mean, can you really make

that many mistakes that many times? Yeah. Um, so yeah, obviously common sense says that's your

friend's fault. Um, but then you say, Oh, do you know who this is about? Then it's, oh, it's

anti-Semitic. You can't, you can't say, you can't say those things. These people were prejudice

against the certain group of people, but again, it's like the chicken or the egg. Why were they

prejudiced against the certain people that made them get kicked out of a hundred nine countries

over a thousand times? It's insane. Oh, I didn't know that. So the Jewish people have been kicked out

of a hundred nine countries. Yeah. I mean, it's not a hundred percent accurate, but people like,

it's, that's like the ballpark. Wow. There's actually a list you can go through the countries that,

and they're mostly European countries. Obviously, the Jews came to Europe from, from the Middle East

because they didn't have a homeland. And yeah, I mean, they got kicked out for

certain reasons. I mean, some countries say they were poisoning wells, you know, clipping coins

userry. And I don't know how much of that is true. Obviously, one end of the spectrum is that

I'll, you know, the Jews were just persecuted for no reason. And the other spectrum is that all

Jews are bad. And the truth is always like somewhere in the middle. Yeah. So I don't know. It's just, uh,

you should really question something. If you can't question a certain event that's supposedly

so well documented throughout history, that should really set off some alarm bells. Like, why can't

you question it? Like it's actually illegal in like 17 plus countries, I think. Mostly in Europe,

to question the Holocaust. Really? Yeah. You could get fined or get in jail. Holy crap. And I know people,

like not personally, but I know of people who have gone find or went to jail for, you know, doing

certain things in Europe surrounding this event. So it's absurd. That's pretty nuts. I mean,

I remember history class here. We learned about Holocaust from months. I feel like, right? They

were really programming it into our, into our minds. Yeah. It was probably one of the like biggest

events that everyone remembers in school. Yeah. If you ask anyone like, what's the worst event

human history? They'll say, Oh, I don't know. But like usually some, most people will say it like

the Holocaust because I was like so ingrained in us. Like who's the most evil person? Oh, obviously

Hitler. Like he's the Nazi. Like if you say something that's out of the norm yet, you're

automatically a Nazi. And you really have to question that like, why are they pushing this narrative

so much when there was different dictators? Like even if you believe the official stories and

narratives of how many people were killed, there was other dictators and regimes that killed

many more people. Why are those people not talked about? It's a valid point, right? Because there's

seen that list of like the dictators and how many they killed. And I think there was a couple

above Hitler if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Like a few like, Mao of China or Stalin, obviously he killed

plenty of Russians, Ukrainians. He killed his, he starved his own people. But you don't hear

about that. And I mean, someone can say, well, it wasn't because they're white. I mean, he killed

I guess predominantly white Christians. But I think for the most part, it was because they were white.

I don't think they really cared. But then you look at who Hitler killed and what was the Holocaust

about, you know, the Jews got went into the gas chambers. And that's what we're taught,

taught about. And it's like the worst event. And is it because it was a specific group of people

that were targeted? It really makes you a question. No, it does, man. Because I remember history class

was one of my favorites in school. But now as I'm older, I'm like, that was just indoctrination.

And I actually, I'm not a fan of history class anymore. Yeah, I mean, especially for white people,

like I remember in school, we were taught the like main things were like slavery. We were colonizers

came and stole the land and then obviously genocide. Like white people, Europeans, they genocide

it. Other groups of people. So it's like, you're taught from such a young age to like have this

like white guilt. Like you should be sorry for what you've done. But people don't talk about

all the great things. White people have accomplished. Like someone sent me a stat is like 97% of

inventions were made by Europeans. I don't know. I don't know how true that is exactly. But

it's definitely believable. And there's actually a website when they say like the traffic light

or peanut butter was invented by black people. There's like a website that like fact checks these

black inventions and you look deeper into it. And usually they're all from white people that they

might have added something or was like completely stolen. So why are we not taught about that?

Well, there's a site debunking black inventions. Yeah, I forgot the name of it right now.

But they didn't even invent peanut butter. So I don't think they've invented anything actually.

It's kind of sad. Holy crap. I mean, they were to be fair. They were pretty oppressed, you know.

Yeah, I mean, 100%. Obviously what Americans did to them was not fair. I don't think any

person should be slaves, obviously not. But I mean, how long can you cry victim for?

Like that was ages ago at this point. I mean, are you going to cry victim for the rest of your

life? Like are you still oppressed? Like I understand even the CIA brought drugs or whatever

invented rap music to try to hurt the black community. But you know, how come white people aren't

going out and shooting people because of rap music? No, it's black people doing it. So I mean,

we just have to realize that we have our differences. And I'm not saying one is above the other.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying we have to acknowledge it. I think the world would

thrive better if we acknowledge our differences and focus that on what we were good at.

And if you give us that of rules to white people, we obviously have different morals,

different values. We literally think differently. Like our skin color is literally the least of

our differences. Like our brain chemistry, our physical bodies, how we train should be different.

And people don't we're obviously not taught about that. It's so suppressed that you know,

when you say that, it's automatically racist. But I think we should acknowledge these differences.

I think we could thrive better as a whole as people. I agree. How many black friends do you have?

I don't feel believe it or not. Yeah, I have this one black friend. He's he's fucking more racist than

me. He very moved out in the middle to the middle of the woods to get away from black people. He's

like, I'm so fatigued of my own kind. I don't want to be around them. Wow. Okay. So that's not a

defining line for you then. You're still friends with black people. I'm friends with everyone.

Like again, I generalize groups, but I judge individuals, you know, based on their character.

I like that because there's obviously data behind group studies. People can't deny that and some

people get angry about that. But you can't deny facts and percentages. Yeah, exactly. I mean,

I'm not going to hate someone just because of Jewish black Indian. I literally have friends

of all groups. Like if someone actually saw the people I interact with, you're a grifter.

I'm not a grifter. I just realized that everyone is an individual and I'll base them off of that.

But you know, obviously, if I'm walking down the street or in a predominantly black community,

I'll obviously be more cautious because it's just pattern recognition. Yeah. I've seen some crazy

stats on the future and what percentage of the population will be white. And white people

are going to be the minority, I believe in like 10, 20 years or something like that. I mean,

we basically are the minority right now. We went from like 33% to 7% in like 100 years.

That's a drastic drop. And obviously it's not just that our population dropped. It's the other

populations have been outbreeding us. Like if you look at like in India or Africa,

I saw this the other day. There used to be like, I think like half a million Africans. Now there's

billions of them in a very short span of time. Wow. So I mean, like white people, they kind of

breed more for quality. Like a lot of white people, they will, they don't have money. They're not

really going to have kids or they'll have one or two. We try to get the most the best quality of

children. But like other cultures, they breed like rabbits and they'll breed, they'll have 10 children

and one will be successful in the rest, you know, not so much. And that's the way they do it.

And I'm not saying one is better than the other, but I mean, I think people don't realize how bad the

world can will get if white people are going to become extinct or a very small minority of the world.

Because everybody wants to live in white countries. Everybody wants to live in the US, Canada,

Australia, Europe. Like why are the migrants flooding there from their countries? Because obviously

white people built it. They made the country to what it is now and people want to go there. And

then so when people say, like, let in these immigrants, some of them want to work. Yeah, I agree,

some of them want to work. But at a certain point, you have to say, no, no more of you can come in

here because if you let in third worlders in that first world country, it's going to become a

third world. Yeah. What about letting in white people? Yeah. I mean, I see the argument for that.

I think that's fine. And again, people can disagree with that. But again, like the US,

yes, it was founded on immigrants. It was mostly white immigrants. And at this point,

you know, we can't deport everyone. That's impossible. And some of these people have been here

for generations where you're going to kick them out to is unfair. It's unreasonable. I can understand

that. But I don't think it's unfair to say we should want the US to be majority white. And

honestly, a lot of people that I talk to who aren't white, they say the same thing. Like, yes,

that's what shaped the country. And imagine if whatever Mexicans or Indians become the majority of

the US, how is that going to look like? It's going to be more like India or Mexico. Do you want white

kids? Of course. Yeah. What about half Asian? No, definitely not. You get the work ethic too. You

get the work ethic mixed with the good genes. You know, yeah, I don't know why so many white men

love Asians. There's something I never got the appeal to be honest. They look younger. They're

pretty skinny. Usually they're smart. They're good feminine energy. Yeah. White people in Asians are

actually a lot more similar to DNA than obviously whites and blacks, obviously just by the way we look,

but even like our brain and our bodies are a lot more similar. So I mean, you can't get a white

wife. I guess Asians would be the second. That's funny, dude. Yeah. I like Asians too. Like,

I got to defend. I'm half Asian, half white. So I got to defend my half Asian. You know,

they just work hard. Dude, they're good people. I never been screwed over by an Asian. Like,

shout out to Asians, man. Yeah. Some of the best wrestlers I knew in high school, they had

Asian, one Asian parent and one white parent. They were just monsters at wrestling. I don't know

what it was. And they were smart. So I guess there's something to it. I'm telling you, bro. It's a

work ethic mixed with the white jeans. It's a good combo. Don't rule it out. You watch his

anytime soon. Are you waiting for a bit? No, definitely not. I mean, I want to start pretty young.

Like my parents had me when they were 24. I want to aim for like around the same. How old are you

right now? I'm 20. Okay. So I mean, obviously we live in a different age. It is harder to make money.

We live in a different society. Like back then, it was, you know, normally you get married.

You have a job. You have kids. And that's how it goes. But in a broken society, it is a little

different. Yep. I'm aiming for 24. But if it's later than it's later, it's going to be hard

in Miami in my mind. Real hard. I'm definitely not raising kids in Miami. Yeah. No. I have these.

So you got plans to dip out of there. I mean, eventually, again, I'm pretty young. I'll stay

there while I can while I, you know, have a reason to stay. But you get pretty degenerate. Yeah.

Do you skip college though? I went for a semester of college. And I remember going to class,

I'm like, what the, what am I doing here? Like I'm not repeating high school all over again,

listening from professors who, you know, hate their life. They're barely scraping my, like,

I'm learning business from a person who I don't think has a successful business. All right.

And I look at the people around me. They have no direction in life. And I didn't know what exactly

to study. And I'm not saying college is bad for everyone. Like if you want to be a lawyer,

engineer, doctor, obviously go to college. But if you have no direction, and that's why I saw

with a lot of my friends or classmates, they go to college just to be doing something. They don't

know what they're going to do. So I went to a semester. I'm like, I'm not doing this all over again.

And especially in this, in the world we're living in now, like, I know people who graduated

college, they can barely get a job nowadays. Or if they do get a job, they're trying to pay off

their debt that they took out to pay for college. So it just doesn't make sense.

They're stuck in the matrix. I'd even say for lawyers with AI now, dude, like, because I know

some top law firms, they're not hiring like lawyers right now. Like they're just using AI

to do their paralegal stuff. I don't think lawyers is the move anymore.

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Yeah, I mean, AI is also a big topic. A lot of people, obviously, you could say I'm kind of a

hypocrite talking about Jews or Blacks or whatever. It's kind of steering away from the conversation

of AI. AI is going to be a big problem. From when the chat GPT released in 2023 to where we are now,

it's absolutely insane how fast it grew. Now you could literally defake videos that will probably

be used in court for whatever. Imagine where we're going to be in the next few years. It's very

scary. Like you said, it's not just going to be the cash years, the Uber drivers. It's also going

to be the lawyers. It's going to be the doctors. Why would I consult a doctor when I could

ask you have GPT, my problems, and they couldn't give me a prescription in two seconds, dude.

Exactly. You could literally import your blood results and it'll probably give you better advice

than a doctor. Exactly. Isn't that nuts? It's scary. I think we're living through very crazy times

right now. I'm not sure where this is going to go. If 90% of people are going to not have jobs,

I mean, what's going to happen? Crime is probably going to be rampant. People are literally going

to be doing anything to survive. They're going to be robbing, probably killing people,

things like that. I don't think people realize the extent of how much this is a problem.

It could go one of two ways. I think it could go down that route very easily. If it really

replaces a large percentage of the workforce, how are people going to live?

Yeah. I've heard the most plausible scenarios, probably a universal basic income.

That's probably going to happen. You dig it wrong. What else is going to happen? I'm not a fan of

that because then it doesn't incentivize you to work or do anything productive in life. You

know what I mean? You'll just collect that check and sit on your couch all day. We could see the

people doing that right now who get some of these welfare checks. But what's the other option,

the people to commit crime? I mean, I would say universal basic income is better than people just

going out and being savages. I don't know what the other option is. I've got to pay for one of the two

than yeah. That sounds better, but I don't know. I hope we don't get there personally.

Unless there's going to be some restrictions, which I don't think. I think it's all part of some plan

to do something like a lot of people who are Christians, like I'm not personally religious.

A lot of people who are Christians, you know, they tell me things from the Bible about the

end times prophecy and it's very scary how real it is. Again, is it happening because people

are trying to make it happen to believe in a certain narrative or is it actually happening naturally

or is it a bit of both? I think people are pushing it in a certain direction and they truly do believe

that this prophecy will happen and the anti-Christ or Jesus will come again, their Messiah.

I don't know. It's very interesting. I was talking with someone the other day.

They say there's a great reset every like 4,000 years and the 2,000 years in between

is kind of a minor reset. We're nearing the time of the next 4,000 year reset and again,

it's not 100% accurate. It's not every 4,000 years exactly, but in that time frame and the polls

are shifting, you know, I've heard rumors of like underground bunkers that like billionaires

are building like China. China's building like cities more inland. So it all makes you think like

why are they doing this? That is interesting. I'm a big fan of conspiracy. That sounds like one I

need to look into and times prophecy. So you're not Christian. Do you have a religion you tie yourself

to? No, not specific. I know there's a God. I've always believed in the God, but I think eventually

we're going to have to evolve past religion. I think that's kind of my belief. And I think

religion has this place. I think it's done a lot of good for the world, but it's also done a lot

of bad. Like if you see your history, a lot of the wars were fought like the crusades or whatever

it might be or because of religion. And I think at a certain point, we're just going to have to say,

you know, we're better than this. We can accept that there's a God, but we need to believe a story

that might have happened might not have happened thousands of years ago with no concrete evidence.

I don't know. What about astrology and numerology we found about? Yeah, 100%. You know, JP Morgan

had a quote, millionaires don't use astrology, but billionaires do. Right. So again,

you have to question if people who are at the top, they're clearly doing things or no more than you

to be in that position are using it. And there must be something to it. And then you know, you look

deeper in certain events or certain people, they're born on, you know, certain days numerologically

or certain astrological events. And there's definitely something to it. I mean, it'd be crazy

to say there's nothing to it. It's not what it's all a coincidence. I mean, math is literally

everywhere. The universe was made of math. Yeah. But if you ask like, what are numbers? What is math?

Nobody can really kind of answer that. Like, what is it? Is it everything? Is it nothing?

It's kind of both at the same time, like how were numbers invented? We can't really explain it.

We didn't invent them. They were here. We kind of just figured out, figured it out somehow.

And I just think it's a tool to kind of use your advantage. That is a valid point. There's

a spiritual component, I think, because where do they actually come from? I've never even asked

myself that about numbers. Yeah. I mean, I think the universe is just made of numbers. Like,

everything is encoded somehow. Like obviously, we don't see the numbers, but you know,

the whatever, the earth rotating or every human body in our DNA, it's all, it all comes down to

math. It all comes down to numbers. It's all a pattern. So, I mean, it'd be delusional to say

there's nothing to it. Well, shout out to Gary, because scary the numbers guy. I've met billionaire

that used his services, dude. So I'll vouch for him. Yeah. I mean, Gary's a great guy. And again,

anyone's watching this, he's not my manager. He's not saying he's your manager. They do. He has

not paid me a dime. He has not given me any connections in the space, but I have learned

numerology from him. And he does great work. I think he's the best at what he does. And you kind of

have to look at the person who's giving the message as well. Why would I listen to an astrologer

or numerologist that is broke, who's been divorced, that doesn't have children. Clearly,

he has nothing going for them. Then, you know, Gary, he got rich before even social media. He has

children. He's, he has a wife. I think he's been married for like 20 years. Yeah. So clearly,

he's using it in his real, in his daily life. So you have to look at the messenger as well as

the message. Yeah. Yeah. He married a virgin. Pretty impressive these days. That is honestly

unheard of these days. He's the only one I know that's done it. The only one. You know more than

that? Yeah. I know a few people, but a handful at most. It's not a common thing. Yeah, not,

especially in the US, no, the people who I, the people who I know, they, they went like to South

America or like Eastern Europe. Exactly. It's, it's rare. And it's, it's a shame. Yeah, it is.

It definitely is. You own any Palantir stock? I do not. Palantir is pretty scary.

But it's, I mean, it's not surprising. When that came out and people like freaking out,

I'm like, they already have a database. I guess they put it out in the public. And obviously,

you have to look at the people who own this, own the company. You know, the people behind it.

And what their motives are. But I mean, we carry a phone everywhere. They can, they can listen to

everything that we say. Like all your information is on your phone. So if they want to get you,

they're going to get you. There's no hiding nowadays. Unless you throw away all your electronics,

go off the grid. But I mean, who wants to live like that, right? So I mean, people freak out

about these things. But I mean, you have, again, you have a phone. We're all part of the system.

We all have exposure to it. The only way to get rid of it is like us going off grid. But like you

said, how is that a life? Like what are you going to do all the? Yeah. I mean, you know, we live in

a imperfect world. We live in a broken world. And are you going to play the game and try to

get ahead or you're just going to completely log out and you know, stop playing. And I don't know.

I maybe once you're older, you know, you've seen all the bullshit. You've went through it. And

you're like, whatever, I want to check out and go live in the woods with my wife and kids. I get it

then. But like if you're young, you want to make something of yourself. You actually want to make

a change. At least try. Even if nothing happens, like at least try. But like what's the worst

second happen? You know, lose everything. I mean, nowadays, at least in the US, can't even be homeless.

I mean, you could get a shitty job, but you didn't get on welfare. I mean, you could go sleep on

the beach shower at the beach, get a gym membership for $10 a month. I mean, really nothing bad can

happen. And that's the problem with nowadays. And I think that's why I kind of, you know, blew up so

fast as people just scared. They don't want to put anything on the line. And even me making videos,

I'm not really putting much on the line. Like, yeah, sure, I could get canceled. It's probably going

to be hard for me to get a regular job. But I mean, I wasn't going to do that anyway. I don't,

I don't care. So I mean, people just, there's, there's a lack of real men with ambition who aren't

scared to stand up for their beliefs. And it's a shame. I feel like, did you lose relationships with

family and friends when you started posting content? No, again, I like, I've always been genuine. Like,

I thought this way, even before I started posting things. And I always share my beliefs with everyone.

So I mean, my family's been supportive of me. Like, obviously, don't, they don't agree 100% with

everything I say. Sometimes they are scared, scared for me about the stuff I post, obviously.

And my friends, no, they think it's, it's funny. They usually agree with me for the most part.

And if they don't, then I'm not friends with you. Yeah, I was surprised. What would you say at

your age, at 20 years old, is your, your mission right now? What are you trying to get out there?

Yeah. So I mean, I'm trying to just make people think to be honest. I don't want people to

agree with me right away. And it'd be stupid for you to agree with everything I say. I mean,

first of all, most of them are jokes. But even the more serious stuff I post, I just want you to hear

a different perspective because from birth, we're taught one side of the story. You never get to hear

the other side. And you can't come to your own conclusion because you shoved one side of the

story at all times. So and the information isn't that accessible. Like, obviously, it's pretty

accessible now with your phone. There are certain websites or apps that you can go and actually see

the other side. And again, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. And I know I'm going to be

wrong about a lot of things in my views. Will evolve. But for the most part, I just want people to

think I, I hate cancel culture. Like we talked about at the start. And I'm trying to do my best to

do something about it. You've been following this Fuentes versus Candice Beef.

No, I don't, I don't follow it too much. Really? I mean, I have. No, I definitely have heard about it.

I think it's just kind of ridiculous. Like people would love to stir up drama about the dumbest

stuff. But I guess that's the, you know, that's the social media game. But yeah, it was kind of

weird. Like everyone started attacking him at the same time. Yeah, Tucker or Candice,

couple others. Yeah, Elon, Elon, you know, take Jumton. He said a few words.

I don't know. Was it planned for something more? Maybe where these people are trying to get

clout off him because obviously he's been very popular recently. Like getting I think 40,000

viewers a night on Rumble. And that's live. That's really hard to do. Yeah, that is, that is

insane. That is absolutely insane. So I mean, clearly there's a shift in the world. They don't

want to hear the same nonsense every time. And then when someone like Nick, even though I don't

agree with everything, he says, he's just a fresh voice that people can listen to. And clearly,

he's uncensored. He'll use slurs to make these edgy jokes. And it's kind of like a breath of fresh

air. Like people hate the PC culture. You're not allowed to make jokes about anyone or say things

that you see in front of your eyes. It's insanity. You do share, you two share a lot of similar

beliefs on race. Yeah. And then Israel. I think most people do for the most part. These days,

yeah. Yeah. I mean, especially on Twitter. And obviously Twitter is not real life. But I mean,

there's anonymous accounts that will be ratioing politicians. That's insane. By a good amount,

too. They'll be ratioing them like 10 to 1. Yeah. I mean, that's crazy. So clearly, there's

something in the air. And even I saw like, I think Matt Walsh and I got the other guy's name,

but they started like picking up like the next talking points or like the, I guess the alt rights

talking. Oh, wow. Yeah. They made a tweet. I think a month or two ago that we should stop

immigration. And if we want immigrants only let in white immigrants, something along those lines.

Oh, yeah. So the, yeah. And that would be so taboo a few years ago. But now a very mainstream

person is coming out and saying that. Why is that? That is interesting. What do you think of

Charlie Kirk? I know you were just at his event with me. Um, I don't know what to think about him.

Like, obviously, he, someone's paying him a decent amount of money to, you know, I know his salary.

Really? I don't know if it's a public. Somebody got shouldn't say it. Probably not. It's,

it's higher than most people would, would think. I'll say that. I know. Yeah. These people definitely

get paid a lot of money. I could probably think of a ballpark of, dude, in a political commentary

space, people don't know this. But the top political podcasts and like creators are making seven

figures minimum. Some of them eight a year. Yeah. I mean, if you have influence and, you know,

someone wants you to say a specific point that people are interested in, gain support for,

of course, that's worth money. And these people print the money. I don't care. Money is nothing to them.

So, again, Charlie Kirk, I mean, some of the things he says I can agree with, but a lot of it,

you can see which topics he is, uh, kind of hides inside his shell when people ask him. I feel the,

I feel the, I feel like a few years ago, I've really liked him a lot when he first came on the

scene and was doing the debates. It was really innovative. Yeah. No one was doing that. But then

over time, it's like the same thing over and over. I'm like, what are your actual beliefs? You know what I

mean? Yeah. That's the thing with a lot of these people, a lot of them are grifters or they are

paid to, you know, social beliefs and they'll say whatever they're told to say. But, um, yeah,

you have to evolve at a certain point. If you keep spitting the same, the same things out for years

on end, then I mean, you have to evolve, right? I know I'm going to evolve. And in a year from now,

I'll probably have a lot of different beliefs than I do now. So, you think you'll be able to turn

down some big money when it starts coming your way? I hope so. It's easy to talk about it, but once

it comes on paper, it's like shit. But I've turned down some big offers, bro. I'm still independent

right now. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. I know a lot of people who have turned down these big offers later on

and it might take years, but they start getting a lot more. And again, they're independent. They

don't have to answer to people. So it is respectable. And hopefully I help. I like to say that I

would turn these offers down. But again, once it's in front of your face, it's different. I mean,

Siko just came on. He turned down a six million dollar gambling deal a few weeks ago. So shout

out to him. Yeah, I respect for that. Like, if you have beliefs and you you stand on them,

that's respectable. No matter, you know, what I think of you personally, but I mean, it's

respectable. And a lot of people can't do that. And I see people usually anonymous accounts with

no following or shit on other people for certain decisions they made, but you've never been in

that person's shoes. If you were in that person's shoes, you'd sell out for a lot, lot less.

I agree. I don't respond to anonymous accounts. Do you even give them your time also?

Sometimes I like to like mess around with them. They used to get to my head a little bit. Like,

when there's a lot of them coming at you, like, damn, it kind of does get to you. Yeah. I mean,

that feels if it's all targeted like that, it feels fake to me. Look, I'm not going to name names.

I know some people who, you know, have group chats that might target specific people. And I know I've

been targeted for one and really? Yeah, 100%. 100%. Why? So there's just a group chat and they're like,

go hate on the sky. Yeah. Yeah. As for specific reasons, whether it's something you said,

or if you don't support a certain person. Wow. So it is pretty ridiculous. And that's the thing

about the, I guess, the white nationalist space. I don't even know what the space is called.

At this point, it's everyone hating on each other, ankle biting. It's very grimy. So do you label

yourself that a white nationalist? No, I don't. Because I don't even know what that means nowadays.

First, like, like we, I said earlier, I don't think the country can be all white. I don't think

white people are superior. Are they better at certain things than other people? 100% are other

people better at other things than white people? No, yes. I do, I do love my race. I do, I think

there's a need to push that out there to the young people, especially because again, like we talked

about earlier, it's been so suppressed and we've been taught. The white people have been demonized

so much in the media. Like, I mean, I was just in California and I was walking down the street

and all the ads are like mixed-race people, non-white people, or it's a mixed-race couple.

And it really makes you think, you know, who's pushing this? And then, you know, you look deeper,

you look at the companies, you look who funds them, you look at some of the CEOs. And I know,

it all starts to make sense. Like, there's obviously an agenda being pushed. It's not natural.

It didn't come out of nowhere. I mean, they started pushing this for a reason to normalize it.

Like, in movies, TV shows, you know, even gay people start adding them. And when they're such a

minority, then like, you look at TV shows half the people are gay. This isn't a real life.

Or even saw in a Mr. Beast video, he made the cop black and the criminal white. And why is he

doing that? I mean, if you look at the statistics, if you look at these positions, I mean,

most cops are white and most criminals are black. Right. Why are the roles in

inverse that it isn't? I just watched that video. That's a good point. Holy crap. Do you think you

could be born gay? No, no, definitely. Actually, you can, I think, be born gay. If your parents,

you know, eight food and had a lifestyle that kind of messed up their hormones, I think it could

like leak into the baby. Oh, like a lot of tofu and stuff. Yeah, tofu or, you know,

vaccines, you know, certain foods, GMO foods, you know, even the water you drink, I think all

those do affect you. So maybe when the baby's born and they have these messed up hormones, maybe

they'll, they will have gay tendencies. But I mean, it's definitely not normal. I could actually see

that. I've never heard that argument, but that makes, to me, that makes logical sense. Like, you

are what you eat. So if you're eating a bunch of birth control and tofu and soy and shit, like,

the kid's not going to be tough, you know, yeah, 100%. You know, people love to make the argument

of like, oh, animals are gay, but I mean, we're not animals. Animals, you know, go and rape other

animals. Are we going to say that's okay? Is that normal? I mean, I don't, we're obviously above

animals. We're different than animals. So I mean, that argument is very stupid. I didn't know

animals were gay, actually. Some of them, I guess, do have homosexuality. Really? Yeah. Maybe

they're just horny and they can't find anything to have sex with. Yeah, that's what I think.

To be honest, but I mean, if you look at the, how many more people are gay nowadays than it was

back then, there's a lot more and people will say, oh, because it's more accepted, but, you know,

I don't buy that for a second. I wonder what the percentage is these days of gay people.

It's got to be high. We don't have to look it up. We could look at what's your guess. I'll look at

in the world. Should we do world or US? Let's do US. US. How many people are gay? I would say like

two percent. I think I've looked at two percent. Yeah. What percentage of gay people live in the

United States? I wonder if this includes women. I'm talking about more percentage of gay people live

in the USA. Fuck my data slow. We'll edit this out. Dude. Okay. So seven point one percent

of adults identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or something other than heterosexual,

one in 14 adults. And that's just people that admit it, dude. So it could be higher. It could

be closer to 10, 15. Okay. That is actually, I did not realize it was that because you got to

think about it. Why would you admit it on a study like if you're gay and you're scared about it?

Like people aren't scared about it anymore. I mean, sure, some people are, but wow,

seven percent. Seven percent. That's hot. Do you know the gay city in the world? If I had to guess

would it be New York City? No, it's actually not in the US. Oh, where's it? It's in the Middle East.

What? Not shocking. Well, I mean, a certain country in the Middle East. Oh, get started with

an eye. It does start ends with the L. Damn. Do you think because they, they shame it so much that

people want to do it? Like, I, it's very acceptable actually over there. So the city is Tel Aviv

and 25% of people identify as LGBT over 25%. Yeah. Dude, that's insane. That can't be natural.

They have to be doing something different over there. I don't know what's happening over there.

I mean, 25%. That's one in four people. Yeah. Like holy shit. Something in the water there. I don't

know. Alex Jones was right. Alex Jones was right. I mean, he called that water thing back when I was

in high school and people are like, he's crazy. And now there's birth control in water. It is

effect in your own months. Yeah, I think that was like my first red pill. I remember I was in high

school. I used to watch the Alex Jones. I remember I think I watched him on like Joe Rogan was like

a six hour long. Classic. Yeah. He was talking about that. Like, damn. And then, you know,

you look into it and then somehow you end up that it wasn't six million. So it's a weird rabbit.

Yeah. And then he gets sued for over a billion or a trillion. Something crazy like that. Yeah,

a billion for Sandy Hook. Not so you can't even post on social media anymore. All right. He's all

all on a, where's he posting on his own platform? Yeah. I think.

I forgot. Maybe it's in forward. I think it's. I think it's a different platform or site though,

but I mean, he does have an extra count now. I think unfortunately, he is kind of compromised.

I mean, he's compromised. I mean, if you get sued for a billion dollars and you don't have

the money to pay for it, and maybe, you know, some people say, maybe you could say this or not

say this and, you know, lower it. We'll help you out. I hope I hope not. I used to say some great

stuff. I prefer. Most of the things he says is great, but you know, some topic you could see,

he gets a little uncomfortable. Yeah. Who would you say in the political commentary space is not

compromised right now? It's probably a short list. Like, who are you confident about that? They're

not paid off in some way. That's, that's a tough question.

Flanzas. I don't know, you know, there's accusations of him. And again, I don't want to say anything

that hasn't been confirmed. And I'm not going to go to in depth about it. But, you know,

I like to think he's not, you know, he has gotten his bank accounts shut down. He has gotten banned

almost everywhere. I'd like to think he's not. And again, it's hard to know. And when people say

compromise, it's not as easy to say, like, they give me money and they tell me what to say or what

not to say. They might, you know, buy you a gift and not even say anything. But then, you know,

then it's in your head, like, oh, this person from this group gave me a gift. And like, I know

what his beliefs are. Maybe I'll go a little lighter. Like a subconscious programming almost.

Yeah. So I don't think it's so black. Yeah. I don't think it's as blackmaili as people think.

I think it could be a donation. It could be pull up to your events and stuff like that. I would say

my own gains. I like, I do like mine. I don't think he's I don't think he's compromised. I know

people say he used to work as a fed or whatever. And he still is undercover. But I don't think so.

I'd like to think Flanzas too. I used to think canvas, but I don't know. The France thing was

weird to me. Yeah. Like, why are you so obsessed with calling another political leader's

wife's wife trans? Like, what is that even a conflict? It doesn't make sense. Like, I get one

video about it. But you've been dragging it for too long. There's more important things to focus on.

Yeah. Who cares if it's a dude? I mean, sure, that's weird. But like, does that really change

anything? And now she's getting sued. Honestly, good. She just, what did you think? She's gonna

happen. Yeah, she announced a fundraiser. There's about some two shirts to fund her. That's

going to be an expensive lawsuit. Anything international is millions, dude. Yeah, fuck around, find out, I

guess. So what are you doing? You're going to need to get some good media insurance for the

shit. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I try to be pretty, you know, cautious, have my money diversified.

And things like that. But again, if they want to get you, they'll get you no matter what. So,

I mean, I don't stress about it too much. I know the things I'm saying are controversial.

They're probably going to get me in some trouble. No, they're lying. But it's part of the game.

And the ties are shifting. It's not so taboo how it was a few years ago. Like a few years ago,

if I posted some of the stuff I do on Instagram, ban immediately facts. But now there's literally

like Hitler edits on Instagram. Yeah, it's kind of crazy how fast things change. Dude, I see

people dying on Instagram, literally dying, getting shot or run over by a train. Yeah.

Like they're desensitizing you intentionally. Oh, yeah, 100%. And it really makes you think,

why are they letting all these things slide nowadays? Is there something more to it? And my,

I've thought about this quite a bit actually. I think what they're trying to do is, you know,

people, it's like mental masturbation for people, you know, they post about whatever the Jews,

you know, black crime statistics all day long. But then in the real world, it's getting worse.

People feel like they're winning about, you know, more people are talking about it while more

people are noticing, but then groups out in the real world. Like, for example, you know,

Patriot Front, I just met with them recently. They're bad enough for everything. They can't even

post on Twitter. If you post about them, you're very likely to get a strike or get banned. Damn.

So they're scared of people actually organizing in the real world. Even they're not doing anything

illegal. They're literally just or they're or they have a group of men that are organized. They go

work out, you know, they go eat, they go train, they go march at protests. I mean, it's non-violent.

They're following the laws. But why are they so scared of that? That's why it's important to

do in person stuff too. I know a lot of people got big followings online, but it's always

important to meet up in real life. Yeah. I mean, again, it's like how how long can you talk about

the same things every time? Like, there's only so many things to talk about about some of the topics

in the sphere. I mean, I mean, eventually you actually have to do something in real life.

Yeah, you got to take some action. Yeah. Well, dude, what's next for you?

Work people find you. I'd love to get you on a debate one day too. I think you do well.

Yeah, I'm not too big into debates. I have a few times. I feel like I'm getting better a little bit.

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