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On today's show, we recap the ugliness from Utah just hours ago.
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We're at the scene of the crime here as the Bucks lose by 32 to the Utah Jazz.
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We'll hear some thoughts from Doc Rivers in a couple of the players, some very, very sobering
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and troubling numbers for the Bucks as well.
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And just overall, what there a lot has been this season and the teams that they are
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comping to, very different from where we thought it would be at the start of the season.
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But you lose by 32 points to the Utah Jazz, to a team that is actively not trying to
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Eight players out for the jazz and they were big ones.
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Laurie Marketing remains out for Utah.
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Youssef Nerkich out, Jaron Jackson Jr. out, Kianta George out, Walker Kessler out, Isaiah
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Collier out, John Conchhorn, Bryce Sensible, both out.
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What we got was eight players total for the Utah Jazz, they played in this game.
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One night removed from playing, they were on night two of a back to back.
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They went eight deep and they beat you by 32 points in a game without eights of their
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nine leading scores.
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One of those players, one of those eight that played has been on the team for a week
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on a 10 day contract and he nearly recorded a triple double.
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Four players set new career highs and went scored.
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That's why we started this show saying, apparently there's no bottom here because earlier
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in the week, you know, we talked about the moral victories component in that, hey, the
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good news is they're losing games, but they're competitive.
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It's a good trend for the box, right?
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We can accept losing.
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I think most fans want them to lose for the remainder of the season here, but just be competitive
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and we saw that against the calves.
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We saw that against the Phoenix Suns.
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Like, great, if this is what we have in store for us, perfect.
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I can live with that at least the blowouts are done.
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And then comes a game in Utah against that version of the jazz and you lose by 32 points.
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I mentioned there are some sobering numbers here.
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This was the fourth loss by 30 or more points this season for the books or of them or
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times you've lost by 30 or more points.
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That is the most franchise history tie the most in franchise history.
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This was your ninth loss by 25 or more points this season that you already have the franchise
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record there at eight or had it at eight.
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Now you're just padding the lead, the 14th loss by 20 or more points that ties a franchise
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It's the third most in the league this season.
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And I said, there's a lot of names in the company that you're keeping is not where
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we expected this team to be not where your expectations longed up coming into the season.
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And it tells a very, very different story about where this team is this year where it's
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I've said many times.
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Look, these numbers I just told you, it just tells a fraction of the story.
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And what is going to go down is one of the five worst seasons in franchise history.
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It is without question one of the five most disappointing seasons in franchise history.
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And by the numbers, this is going to be one of your four seasons.
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All those numbers we rattled off of the blowouts that the bucks have suffered here.
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The fact that you have moved past a season that saw you 67 games or excuse me, season that
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saw you lose 67 games.
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That should tell you a lot about where this team has been this season and the type of team
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that this team actually is, point differential, right?
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Every single number that we pull up, it's not good.
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They're 27th right now in net rating, 26th, I beg your pardon, 26th in net rating, point
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differential for this team, right?
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If we just look at that, I don't love citing points per game as how's your offense performing
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or opponent points per game of, oh, look at this stingy defense here.
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I think efficiency is much more important, but point differential.
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Let's use it to tell the story here minus five point four.
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That is a full point worse than the Chicago bulls who we said weeks ago have given up
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on the season, have quit.
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Only three teams are worse than you in point differential.
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The Indian users at minus 8.9, season from hellpacers with Tyrese, Alabama, the other
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injuries that have happened along the way, minus 8.9.
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So they've almost doubled you up, same with the Brooklyn nets, minus 9.3.
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The wizards have doubled you up at minus 11.2, but you know what?
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That's the company you're in, right?
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And then you got the jazz and the kings out west.
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Those are the teams that we're looking at that the books are in the company.
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Jazz Pacers, nets, kings and wizards are the only teams worse than you in that rating.
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Every single number you want to look up here, it tells you, yeah, I mean, this team is
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really one of the five worst teams in the league.
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And I guess we've been blind to it this whole season.
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I said this to someone a last week, week or so ago.
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And I didn't realize it would hold even more true today than it did back then.
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And that is the analogy in the comp for this team.
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And if you're a movie fan, we're a week moved from skurs.
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So I should have really saved, I should have sped this up and gotten to it last week.
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But you know the comp for the box this season, if we're using film, it's the sixth tense.
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And the books are Bruce Willis where it took us this long all the way until the end of
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the film to realize, oh, wait, we're one of the five worst teams were not this, yeah,
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but as soon as we get healthy and as soon as we push towards the playoffs, yeah, as soon
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as we get young as bad, yeah, as soon as he gets to chemistry with with Ryan Rounds
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and KPJ, yeah, as soon as our schedule breaks, like maybe we're not going to be fifth or
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fourth or sixth or whatever we hope that, but we'll at least be a playoff team.
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And who's going to want to play the bucks in the first round?
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Who's going to want to catch this play in tournament team that heats up?
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No, it turns out you're actually dead the whole time.
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This team was actually one of the five worst teams in the league, the entire time.
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The comments from divers, Bobby Portis and Cam Thomas that really paint the picture for
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an ugly loss in Utah to the jazz.
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All right, after the game, we heard from a couple of players, Bobby Portis, Cam Thomas,
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Cam Thomas didn't have much to say.
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As we finally saw, Cam Thomas, you know, back on the floor after what a two game absence
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of DNPs, but Cam Thomas summed it up basically that, yeah, we just got off to a pretty rough
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start and never recover.
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Yeah, so we didn't start off with it, we played harder, getting up and down, making
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And they just had the moment for the good go and we didn't answer to it.
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So it was just best start and they heard us in the end.
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Yeah, I mean, not much to push back on there as the bucks outscored by 11 in the first
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I mean, we mentioned eight players out for the jazz only eight players available.
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One of them is a 10 day contract.
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The eight of their nine leading scores out and still you open the game down by 11 in the
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Everybody's permitted a slow start.
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Just how do you rebound?
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Oh, down by nine in the second quarter outscored by nine.
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I should say, so you're down by 20 at the half, you're down by 21 going into the fourth
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and then you're outscored by 11 in that fourth quarter.
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So they lost every single quarter and three of the four, they lost badly.
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It's been quite a year, you know, a lot of turbulence taking on a lot of water on this
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As you guys have all experienced day by day and it's something that Bobby Portis is cognizant
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The road just didn't lose any game this year has been a rollercoaster of a year for us.
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You know, a lot of, you know, things that kind of took away from the team, a lot of outside
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rumors and injuries and just a lot for us this year to intake, but, you know, we're still
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Still out here burning and fighting every day, so not laying down is what it is.
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13 and 11 this season, you know, it's trying to build off of it and give fourth to get
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effort every time we out there.
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Obviously today was super disappointing and like you probably, like you probably didn't
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ever want to lose a game like that, right?
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But, you know, we play every other day, the rest of the year.
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So, you know, it's plenty of opportunities to go out there and, you know, keep guys locked
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in, you know, just keep building, like I said, man, it's been a up and down year, like
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going on, but I'm in the fight, though, so I ain't laying down.
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There's a couple of things from that that I think are very pertinent from Bobby Portis.
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You don't want to lose a game like this, but I would phrase that as you don't want to
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lose a game like this again, you know, obviously you don't want it to happen again in the final
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13 games, but for the bucks, it has happened again and again and again and again, four times
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by 32, by 30 or more points, four of them, nine by 25 or more, 14 by 20 or more.
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These are all franchise records.
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And this was, by the way, the 12th game this season, they scored 100 less than 100 points.
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That's the third most in the league in an offensive era of basketball.
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But the other thing that Bobby got to and we, well, we play every other day so we can
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We've heard that a lot.
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And ordinarily, I would say, yeah, all right, fine.
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Put this one behind you.
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Burn the tape game and I'll spawn.
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But the fact that we have to continue having that conversation, it's like what's the
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different definition of insanity, right?
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But we heard twice in that cut a lot of stuff going on outside rumors and it's been a roller
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It's apparent this all started early in the season, you know, even when they were four
16:32
and one and that think about that five games into the season was the high point for this
16:40
It quickly started to fade and eventually it crumbled and it was a lot.
16:45
It was, you know, Yana's not at media day because he had COVID, Yana's pushing back on
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and disputing some of the words from ownership over a meeting with him, the outside noises
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that Bobby referred to and having to constantly hear about rumors.
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And look, you can say, Sham Sharani is full of crap and we've already gone through this
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and we've bunked this, this, you know, all right, fine.
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But you know, who could also end this really quickly?
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And I think when you hear Bobby Portis mention that, it's a cloud that hangs over this
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team to constantly wonder, think about the week of the trade deadline when we heard
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guys, like, yeah, I've had that conversation with my teammates from Yana's or I've had
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conversations with my teammates.
17:28
And if they've asked, I've told them, but all of those guys, and we've talked about players
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on one, one year deals with a one plus one who have to wonder, am I going to be traded?
17:37
Is this guy going to be here next year?
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What do I want to do with my player option?
17:41
What's going to happen with this team?
17:42
What's the future of it?
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And I think you've just kind of seen all of this culminate that stuff beyond the court
17:50
performance in the, the, the, the frankly lack of an identity and what feels like a game
17:54
plan and the fact that we have to constantly talk about the same statistical areas that
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this team is getting their butts kicked in.
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You shot attempts and overall possessions that they're getting steals on both ends of
18:08
That's a part of your possessions, but they're turned the ball over a ton.
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They're not forcing turnovers.
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It's not rocket science.
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If you give the opponent more chances to score, they're going to beat you.
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And in those few instances where we see it, okay, let's embrace offensive rebounding.
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Let's protect the basketball.
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If they don't win, they're very competitive.
18:29
And I think you're starting to see it really start to weigh on these guys.
18:34
But this type of performance, you know, I'm never going to call out or question the effort
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of a player because we don't know.
18:44
This is tough to take and not say, boy, it feels like it's, there's a lot that's fractured
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there with this group and the overall makeup to lose by 32 points to the Utah Jazz.
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And again, to hear in that cut, two times body port is talking about outside noises and
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everything else that was kind of over this team that's made it a roller coaster of
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Doc Rivers had some thoughts as well on this one.
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And I mentioned, you know, we don't want to hear, but we got a chance back on the horse
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and fix this after two games or two days.
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We play every other day.
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And that's the beauty of basketball, right?
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Like you can only say that so many times when this is the result over and over and over.
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So, um, if you're opposed to that, I think you're going to find Doc Rivers post a very,
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So if you got tired of hearing the hey, we'll get right back on the horse and get them
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dock rivers to say, oh, I'll cut them some slack there, but dock rivers and his
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thoughts on the one.
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Didn't have any competitive spirit tonight.
22:22
I thought the first group said to tell them I thought the first group came in, everyone
22:28
on the team know that group was trying to score.
22:31
We had a shoot around the day where ball was moving everything was second action.
22:36
This is six times the guy was supposed to go to kept it and you know, at the end of
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the day, that's on me to get on the play ride.
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Just for you guys, there's still 13 games left in the season that's a lot of basketball
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Just for basketball.
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Just for you guys, what kind of needs to change it?
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I've met over doing one game.
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Honestly, I thought we played great against Cleveland, thought we competed against Atlanta.
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So I'm not going to overdo this game.
23:03
But this was the game you really wanted to win on the throw trip.
23:08
They took out everybody to help us, you know, and we still didn't take advantage of it.
23:12
So, the film will be interesting tomorrow.
23:15
Can't have him playing for a couple of minutes, yeah, it's just, what do you see for
23:20
The first half, he was great.
23:21
Then the second half, you know, got stagnant, still defensively, you know, there's some
23:27
Can't be the tough one because he's played on teams that he was the only score and
23:32
on our team because we have other scores, the ball still has to move.
23:36
I thought he did a great job of facilitating in the first half.
23:41
You know, the turnovers, miles, turnovers, turnovers, those are big concern to me.
23:48
You mentioned just, like, it's on you to do that.
23:50
So what can you do in the next off day, conclude the Phoenix that you think they find the best?
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We'll see, you know, Phoenix is playing for their life.
23:59
So we better be right.
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I think in situations like this, it's easier for the young guys, maybe to understand
24:06
that like, oh, I'm like for a next contractor, but that's on you.
24:10
This is a tough one, but this is, you know, you'll find out who the winners are.
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You'll find out who the keepers are.
24:18
Like Bobby was phenomenal the night.
24:19
Bobby had the right spirit.
24:21
He let's, Bobby played well, but let's, if Bobby had not played well, he still played
24:27
with the right spirit.
24:28
That tells you a lot about when you're trying to build a team.
24:34
Hey, coach, stock rivers after the loss by 32 to the Utah Jazz.
24:39
And again, acknowledge they played terribly.
24:43
And you heard again, I think part of why we've had whatever it was, two games without
24:49
seeing Cam Thomas on the floor and getting into the DNP's was he very bluntly and
24:55
candidly said, yeah, it was fine in the first half.
24:57
Then it kind of became struggles where the offense got stagnant from Cam in the second
25:03
And the defense remains in issue.
25:05
But the one thing I think it would be fair to push back on.
25:11
And maybe I'm sure a lot of you will roll your eyes at a two was, you know, what, the second
25:17
thing that we heard from Doc, where the, the answer was what essentially, we're not
25:23
going to over-react to one loss, you know, is it a burn the tape and move forward type
25:31
Yeah, we're not there yet.
25:32
We're not going to overreact to one game on an 82 game schedule, which ordinarily, yes,
25:39
That is a mindset to take.
25:42
You know, we just gave you the amount of times that this team has lost by 30 or more
25:47
points that this team has lost by 20 or more points that this team has lost by 25 or
25:53
It is not an isolated incident that we're talking about here.
25:58
It hasn't slowed down, you know, like the old, the old line and the old joke of the beatings
26:03
will continue until morale improves.
26:04
It does very much feel like that's where we're at for the remainder of the season for this
26:11
And now you head into the toughest part of this road trip, which by the way, the bugs have
26:16
not been good on the road and look, for that matter, the bugs have not been good at home
26:21
They are almost guaranteed to finish the season with a losing record inside a five-room
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for the first, the history of that building.
26:34
Your next three on the road are the teams that are 7, 8, 9 in the Western Conference
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It's not going to get any easier.
26:41
This one was basically gift-wrapped to you with the players that were out.
26:45
And we've heard a lot of that.
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We've heard a lot of the same from the players from Doc Rivers throughout the course of the
26:49
season and nothing has changed.
26:51
And that's why again, we mentioned the numbers and how ugly it's been where you currently
26:55
sit, not only in the standings, but statistically those teams that you are lumped in with, you
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by the numbers are one of the five worst teams in the league this season.
27:05
It means with the expectations, Camille and I talked about this the other day, coming
27:09
into the season, whether or not you thought the bugs were actually going to be 7th or 6th
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or 5th, whatever, no one thought you were going to be this.
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Not just potentially what, 11th, 12th, potentially 12th overall in the East at best, because
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a lot has started to transpire here these past couple of games.
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It's a recent point where, yeah, maybe you could actually get to the 7th best odds in
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None of us envisioned that.
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And when that happens and when the expectations were what they were and your fast track to
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50 losses this season, it means there will be a lot of change in the off season here.
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Now as we wrap here, I mentioned that some things have started to transpire here and change
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a little bit in the standing to make it at the least extremely interesting down the stretch.
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Well, your tragic number is now six, meaning any combination of bucks, losses and hornets
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wins that total up to six, that's when you're done.
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We could be looking at a tragic number of two after Monday, because the next two games
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for the books on the road in Phoenix on Saturday, on the road in Inglewood against the Clippers
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on Monday, those two teams that are fighting for their playoff lives, Phoenix can still
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get out of the plan tournament though it's three games that separate them now, but they're
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also right there in that mix with the Clippers and the Blazers.
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Clippers and the Blazers are trying to make sure they get up to the eighth spot.
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So they're fighting for that.
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Those are the next three teams on your schedule, but the next two, the sons and the Clippers.
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The next two for the hornets are the Grizzlies and the Kings, right?
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Meaning by the time each of these two teams get through those games.
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It keeps saying you're not officially eliminated yet.
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Well, the hornets play the Kings on Tuesday.
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So they go into New York or they go into a game with New York one week from when I record
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Actually, it's Friday morning now, six days from Thursday.
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You could reach the point Tuesday night that that tragic numbers down to two and then
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we're looking at, okay, Thursday, Thursday, March 26th is when the bucks could be officially
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eliminated at worst.
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It is probably going to be Saturday, the 28th, because the bucks play Wednesday.
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They're off then until Saturday and even if the hornets lose to the next, they got the
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banged up sixers, although Paul George will be back, but they got the banged up sixers
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So we're likely looking at next Saturday, one week from tomorrow's when the bucks are
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officially done, eliminated from the postseason, really quickly here.
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There is a pad for the bucks to now suddenly reach, you know, I suppose the sixth best
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odds are on the board, but realistically, seventh best odds for draft lottery more than
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But guess what, one of the teams that's moving in the other direction is the New Orleans
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Pelicans who again have no incentive to lose.
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They're still losses behind, but they've gone six and four in their last 10, they won
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seven straight at home.
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And with the way the season has gone, wouldn't it be fitting for the bucks to continue to
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sink and get down to let's say number seven, seventh best odds in the draft lottery.
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That's going to come at the expense of the New Orleans Pelicans.
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So the reality is you're going to end up draft in 10th after all, but it's going to be
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the pick from New Orleans, and you're just fast tracking and improving the chances of
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the Atlanta Hawks to have a top four pick.
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I mean, it's becoming increasingly impossible to find the silver lining anywhere.
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That's what we've come to now on this very, very disappointing season for the bucks.
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So not a fun one to do today.
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But I thought we were done with these apparently, we're not.
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So hopefully we don't have any more of these, the rest of the way and you can at least get
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back to competitive losses for the bucks Saturday night, the Phoenix Suns.
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I throw up a quick preview of that one.
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So be on the lookout for that.
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But that's going to do it for today's show.
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