Hospice Fraud in CA Is Out of Control (03/12)

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You know, a few weeks ago we played Dr. Oz

who's running Medicare and Medicaid

in the Trump administration.

He got all over Van Nies

pointing out all the fake hospices

that were draining us of Medicare

and Medi-Cal money.

And Newsom responded by accusing him

of attacking Armenians.

Remember that bizarre incident?

Well, then CBS News this week

had a really lengthy investigative report

on hundreds of fake hospices

here in Los Angeles.

We are the fake hospice capital of the world.

And now here's another investigation.

We're going to talk with assemblywoman Alexandra

Macido. She's a Republican from Toulare

and she has worked with the journalist

named Christian Heartsock.

And they found that the hundreds

of possible fake hospices.

And it could be three and a half billion dollars

of Medi-Cal fraud here just in L.A. County.

Let's talk to Alexandra Macido,

assemblywoman Alexandra. How are you?

I'm doing great. It's good to be back again.

Tell me about this investigation

that you were connected to

with this investigative reporter Christian Heartsock.

So this actually started all the way back

in early January for me

when the state auditor put out reports

of vulnerable programs that we have in California

and really where we need to kind of take a deeper look

of where we are not doing our job

to make sure that we're presenting fraud,

waste, and abuse.

And I started looking at other audit reports

and what was consistently coming up was

you know Medi-Cal and particularly hospice.

And mind you, I'm a farm girl from the valley.

So this is not my area of expertise

and I just started researching and studying

and trying to figure out why is hospice

of having these issues.

And then I kept finding articles,

you know from like 2020,

where this was already kind of identified.

So then I got my hands dirty and thought,

you know, what publicly available information is there.

So that's when I started going to the California Department

of Health and Human Services

and downloaded their data of all their hospice programs.

Just trying to see if there was any anomalies, I guess.

And yeah, there was because I kept seeing the same address

over and over and over again.

And so then I organized the data by address

and I found 197 hospices all registered to the same address,

only to be followed by another address

that was like a half mile away that had 81 there.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on a second.

And you just did this from your computer

on your own accessing the public information

that the California government has

and you found all this.

Correct. I simple Google search

and using some AI to help direct me and organize my information.

But yeah, I mean, any citizen could have done this.

I'm kind of curious why Gavin Newsom and his folks haven't done it.

They're too busy on X saying they have claimed victory

because they stopped licensing.

Well, the truth is, is the bad guys sound a loophole

and they're still doing this.

LA County alone has 31% of the nation's

hospices and home health care companies,

but only 2% of the nation's aging seniors.

So the math ain't math and because it's not real.

Yeah, it's crazy when I'm talking to some of these legitimate

hospices that are saying their businesses are under subscribed.

They're struggling to keep their doors open.

And I'm thinking, well, how the heck do we have 197 at one address?

And so I took it upon myself to go down there.

But what was crazy is this was kind of before Dr. Oz had even said anything.

So I wanted to go down there and visit for myself to verify it.

And I kept watching Dr. Oz's footage

thinking, oh, he found it.

And then I watched and I said, oh, my gosh, he didn't.

He wasn't in front of the one that had the 197.

And so I went down there and I did.

I saw crazy, crazy things.

I mean, this building is in the middle of the ghetto

that it's a dilapidated rundown building.

And where is it exactly?

This isn't Van Eyes.

This isn't Van Eyes.

Yes.

And there's an empty lot next to it.

And then oddly enough, I see string lights

and like a party space up top that when you look into it,

apparently it is a event venue that you can rent.

And then there's all these signs on the outside

that aren't hospice companies.

And when you get inside, you see every empty.

There's no administrators.

There's no doctors.

There's no nurses.

There's no patients.

But even if there was the patients and wheelchairs couldn't get in

because it's not ADA compliant.

There was no handicap parking.

And how many companies are in this building doing hospice?

197.

197.

Oh my god.

197 fake companies.

Well, you know, that's what's funny is then I started making phone calls

because for my research, I saw that as of January 1st,

they had to have an administrative office with business hours

and they had to have a working telephone number.

And almost I would say about 90% of the ones that I called

that it had this call cannot be completed as dialed.

And then there was a ton of Google numbers,

which means they weren't real numbers.

And then the few that answered, answered, hello.

Like they were so irritated that I called.

But they didn't answer like, hello, this is XYZ hospice.

How can I help you?

I mean, far from what I would consider a high quality service

business that I would trust putting, you know,

grandma or grandpa on their hospice.

Yeah.

Did you see the CBS report this week?

I did.

I did.

But you know, when we're digging into how they're doing this,

this is what they're doing.

They're stealing people's information and enrolling them in hospice care.

And once they reach their max benefit, they're kicking them off.

And there's literally hospices that have a 0% death rate,

meaning people are not dying on hospice.

That's insanity.

I mean, it's so glaringly obvious.

And I just can't believe, I mean,

people are not operating in the dark.

They are not afraid.

They should be.

Because I am really optimistic that the DOJ is going to get involved in it.

Oh, man.

They have to.

Because in the CBS story, they talked to Rob Bonta and he goes,

oh, yeah.

Well, I'm frustrated too, like everybody else.

You're not doing anything.

You just have to do the Google search that you did.

You'd find hundreds of them.

Can you hang on the line?

Absolutely.

This is so great.

So Dr. Oz finds dozens of hospices.

CBS finds hundred.

And now you have this assembly woman,

Alexandra Bacito, and an investigative reporter, Christian Hartsock.

They finds hundreds of these hospices.

And it's all in Van Nies.

And it's billion dollars worth of fraud, 197 phony companies in one building.

And all these people signed up for hospices and nobody's dying.

Must have some miracle cure.

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We are talking with a assembly woman, Alexandra Mesito,

Republican from Toulare.

She worked with a investigative reporter, Christian Hartsock,

and they discovered hundreds of hospices in their knives again,

and it's millions dollars of Medi-Cal fraud.

In fact, there might be three and a half billion dollars

in Medi-Cal fraud, all told.

We have 31% of all US hospices,

31% registered in LA County,

with only 2% of the senior population.

And Dr. Oz had found a similar situation in back in January,

and then CBS News,

and in between Gavin Newsom has been mocking this.

But this is what's going on, and he refuses to do anything about it.

Let's talk, well, we got a few minutes left with Alexandra Mesito.

Look, I know you've written a letter to Newsom.

But I wonder if you have any insight

as why are they so resistant to cleaning up all this fraud

and redirecting the money to people

who really need the medical treatment?

I have no idea.

We have been calling incessantly to where are these regulations?

I had multiple extensions, by the way,

of providing these regulations that are supposed to make sure

that fraud is not happening within the hospice system.

And his answer is that he just instituted a moratorium

and stopped new licenses from coming.

What's happening is these licenses are essentially being flipped

and still being used.

So the fraud is still happening.

It's so insane to me, and I wish I could peek into his brain

of what the motivation was to not fix this,

because we all know he's trying to run for president.

So if you figured out, let me know.

If you peeked in his brain,

I don't think you'd find anything.

This is very true.

Yeah, I've had hair products.

Sometimes I got to understand the motivation

for some of these ridiculous policies or these frauds,

but I don't understand the motivation here

for allowing this to happen.

And then mocking people who find it and publicize it

or Rob Bonta going on TV and saying,

yeah, yeah, I'm frustrated just like you are.

This is your responsibility.

This is your office.

He's found 50 lawsuits against Trump.

Meantime, you've got hundreds, thousands of people

looting Medi-Cal, but for billions of dollars.

And he can stop it.

As a state, we have an $18 billion deficit

in our $350 billion budget.

And we don't know where our money's going.

So no wonder we have a deficit

because we spend billions of dollars.

But we don't really ask questions once it leaves

our bank account of where it's going.

It's insane and it is a travesty.

We are treating California taxpayers like ATMs

and it's ridiculous.

And now Democrats are finding creative new ways

to try to tax California's even more.

And they're sick of it.

I don't care if you're a Democrat, Republican, or independent.

We are all tired of the taxes in California.

We are tired of the cost of living crisis.

But instead of fixing it,

you have Rob Bonta saying we should do something about it.

And Gavin Newsom, who's too busy on X

and doing his United States world tour,

do anything about it.

This building that you went to,

that's supposed to have 197 hospices, right?

And it's all empty on the inside.

Is this one guy working from his home

and just filling out thousands and thousands of forms

and getting all these medical checks

sent maybe to a post office box?

Could it be just one guy who created 197 fake hospices?

So there's a right, I called probably, you know,

upwards of a hundred of these.

And they all have a different registered agent.

There might be a master puppeteer, if you will,

that's leading the charge and these are just strumming.

But they have, you know, various numbers

that don't work, most of them.

And then some of them, if they have emails,

they're like just normal Yahoo or Gmail accounts.

They're not like professional accounts that you would have,

you know, at a legitimate business.

And, you know, that's where I'm really hoping

the DOJ steps in because I only have access

to publicly available information as a state elected.

So the DOJ are the ones that can subpoena these documents

and subpoena communications and financial records.

And they can get to the bottom of how this is happening

and who's doing it and where it's happening.

Like I said, this was just publicly available information

in a laptop essentially that I was able to find

that all of these hospices are registered to the same address.

And if that's, you know, not something that causes a red flag,

I'm not sure what will, but why was either one that found it

or why was it allowed to happen?

Or are our state documents out of date?

I mean, there's got to be somebody somewhere

that's saying this shouldn't have happened.

I don't know what the motivation is.

Listen, keep at it.

If you find out more, please come back on with us.

All right.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate your time.

All right.

It's Assemblywoman Alexandra Bistito,

Republican from to Laurie.

And she and a journalist Christian Hartsock,

they found a tremendous amount,

hundreds of fake companies, fake hospices.

And it looks like there's about three and a half billion dollars

in MediCal fraud going on in Los Angeles County,

31% of all the hospices in America are in LA County.

Got 2% of the nation's seniors,

31% of all the hospices.

And most of them are fake.

And they're sucking up billions of dollars of our tax money.

And Bonta was presented with the evidence on CBS.

Just kind of shrugged and said, yeah, I'm frustrated.

And Newsom denies it's happening.

When Dr. Oz brought it up, he started mocking Dr. Oz,

threatened it with civil rights complaint.

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536 National average is 359.

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well, you know, the money is supposed to go for road repair,

which is the biggest joke and the biggest lie.

I'm driving home last night.

After after the show, I went to Hollywood, met up with my wife.

She had to attend an event.

And so I was there just for a short time.

And then we went home in separate cars.

And I took the freeway home.

And I took the 101 to the 405.

I got on the 405 South.

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incredible amounts of nasty potholes.

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Oh, that's good noise.

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Got a flat tire.

Now I'm running on an allegedly smooth road in the middle of the 405 going downhill.

I go like 70 miles an hour ago.

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which is supposed to be about 40 in my tires.

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Nobody, nobody, nobody would let me over.

Of course not.

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I would, if they were trying to get out of the way, yeah.

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Give them some space.

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I would.

Okay.

I don't want them to die.

No, I understand.

But you know, you drive in the car pool lane when you're by yourself and you do other things.

And so I didn't know if you would be courteous like that.

Different.

The carpool lane.

I don't know.

I was just asking.

So I, I, I, I mean, this thing like really started to shred.

By time I got to the service station, I took the getty center, getty drives with it.

Getty center drive.

Is that what it is?

Yes.

I eventually got to a gas station.

Oh my gosh.

You were able to get to a gas station with your tire like I had no choice.

I wasn't going to stop on the 405 on the shoulder because clearly the mood of the public was.

Oh, we'll just kill him.

We'll either run him over and you get those stories every once in a while.

But some poor sap who had car trouble or is trying to change a tire or I would.

And he gets out of the car.

He gets flattened.

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The guy's a pancake.

It's a bloody pancake.

So I thought, well, I'm not risking this.

And it's and it's dark.

Oh, and they don't have they don't have street lights anymore on the 405.

I mean, it is really dark.

So I go down some pulpit of boulevard.

I find the gas station I pull in by this time.

It's just the most helpless feeling.

And I get out of the car.

And the tire is leaving clumps of black.

Mounds of black rubber dust.

I had ground the tire literally into dust.

Mounds of it trailing me.

I hope you didn't breathe that in.

I didn't even think of that.

Thanks for that.

Well, there was a bad smell because it was burning.

Yeah.

And there were holes.

Like in fact, so so many holes in the tire.

I thought maybe somebody shot my tires out.

Because I'm trying to figure out how this happened.

Like, what did I hit?

And the guy goes, oh, you probably watch at the weight for triple A.

I've been a member of triple A for a very long time.

Same.

Triple A used to show up in half an hour.

What was it?

Two hours.

I it was an hour and a half.

Yeah.

I think I called in at about eight ten.

It was nine forty.

And that's what I was afraid of is I'd be sitting on the side of the road for an hour and a half

in the dark downhill on the 405 when nobody cares if they kill you.

I either get flattened or they crash rear end me and I burst into flames.

You made the right decision.

Yeah.

So that's by choice.

Be steamrolled or burst into flames.

And I'm thinking, you know what?

If I destroy the rim, I guess, you know, that's a good trade off, right?

I can buy a new rim.

Yes.

Can't buy a new John.

They'd be too expensive.

And it's like, okay, you know what?

What in Karen Bass is Gavin Newsom's satellite?

What did I run over?

What garbage did I debris?

Did I run over that they didn't pick up?

What potholes?

I'm hitting potholes on Sudson Boulevard.

Like you wouldn't believe.

I mean, it is, you know, it is like the Middle East.

It's like the Middle East after the Iranians have gotten through.

It's just craters everywhere.

Oh, speaking of Iran, she what they're doing to Dubai?

Yes, the airport, I've been to that airport and it's a silent airport.

So when that airport's getting hit, I don't think anybody is announcing anything.

People in the airport.

It is a, it's seriously, it's called a silent airport.

But they don't make any announcements to the public.

No, they do not.

You're supposed to figure it out on your own.

Yes.

Yes.

Great.

That was not fun.

I don't know why this is, but Iran has fired two thirds of its missiles at Dubai.

I don't think Dubai even has a mill.

I mean, I don't think the UAE even has much of a military.

I think there's a base there.

There was something I read up on it.

A U.S. base.

Yes.

Yes, a U.S. base.

But they're flooding Dubai with missiles and it's hitting buildings.

I know.

And apparently all the people comes, you know, that city's full of fraudsters.

And so all the fraudsters, they call them, you know, expats, expatriates.

They move from other countries, they're hiding out in the UAE.

They're involved in all kinds of financial crimes and worse.

And now they're fleeing like it's shake.

It's shaking out all the cockroaches who came there to commit all their frauds.

They probably have a lot of our unemployment money probably got sent to Dubai.

But I saw that two thirds of missiles.

I thought maybe you'd gone there.

You've taken another trip.

No, I did not.

I'm staying away.

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You know, signature gatherers,

and they get their paid signature gatherers,

they set up tables and they call you over,

you're supposed to sign petitions.

Well, in San Francisco, these signature gatherers

were offering to pay people to sign.

It's not the way it works.

The people who gather signatures get paid,

but the signature gatherers were giving a cut

to people walking by if they'll sign.

Well, that's illegal.

We got a report here from KCRH,

Channel 3 Sacramento, Ashley Zavala.

You want to get $5 soon?

Yeah.

And what is it?

Just sign it.

Just sign it.

Yeah.

You right here.

Our name is going to be Carol.

San Francisco street videographer, JJ Smith,

capturing what appears to be a crime on camera.

Paid signature gatherers, offering people $5

to sign ballot initiative petitions

using other people's names and information.

Smith's shot in post of this video on Monday.

What I've seen shocked me and surprised me

because there was literally coaching people

telling them what name to sign

and what address to put down there

in what was more shocking than that is,

they had that information pretty

out already on an official document.

We've learned that the signature collectors

in Smith's video were doing so for ballot initiatives

backed by billionaires fighting a proposed wealth tax.

The measures include proposals to invalidate the tax,

require audits, and other tax transparency tools.

The campaigns for that are known as building a better California

and Californians for a more transparent and effective government.

Another petition was for a separate campaign

proposed retirement and personal savings protection act.

All three campaigns acknowledged their petitions

were being carried by these signature gatherers.

Today I spoke with representatives for each campaign.

All said they were made aware of the video.

They're demanding the firm identify these circulators

seen in the video and reject their petitions.

Campaign officials said the circulators

are not directly affiliated with them.

They also said they've contacted the appropriate authorities.

Smith said none of the proposals were explained to the people.

In line.

All these people that was lining up for their download they love.

I said they're for two hours and there was like,

I mean hundreds of people just came in way.

To be clear, that's not the first time you've seen those

signature collectors essentially out there or in the area.

No, I've seen it like four days ago,

prior to that, they was out there.

Smith told me as of this moment,

the campaigns involved have not reached out to him directly,

but to take a step back, campaigns hire signature gathering firms.

I'm told for anywhere between $15 to $17 a signature.

Those firms then hire people to collect the signatures.

We still obviously have several questions tonight,

such as why do those signature collectors have voter information

and where exactly did they get the extra money

to pay people on the street for the apparently forged information?

So of course the Secretary of State oversees elections.

What is that office saying?

So we know that she's definitely investigating

because right before our interview with Smith,

he told us he had just gotten off the phone

with their chief investigator in a statement,

a spokesperson for the Secretary of State's office told us

in part that the signature gathering process

is an important part of our democracy

and those who use our system will be held accountable.

So we're all going to be held accountable.

Sure, sure.

To contact again, the Secretary of State's office,

they have a form online.

That's Ashley Zavala, KCRA Channel 3 in Sacramento.

It seems like everything is fraudulent.

I mean, you follow these are street people.

These are drug addicts, mental patients, homeless lunatics,

people on meth and crack and fentanyl,

and they're given five bucks to buy more drugs

and then they're given a name to sign on the petition.

They're given somebody's, a real voter's name

and a real voter's address to sign on the petition.

They get five bucks and then go around the alley

and then shoot up again.

And this is some signature gathering group

trying to get signatures for the,

to try to repeal or to try to block the anti-billionaire tax

because they want to take five percent

or all the billionaires wealth.

So the billionaires have got together

with their own proposition to try to somehow neuter that idea.

I didn't know exactly how it works.

So I don't know if the billionaire,

this was the billionaires idea

or it was the signature gathering company's idea.

They figured, all right, we're getting $17.

The signature will get $5 to the street people,

have those drug addicts lined up

and we'll give them $5 bills and then they go snort some new meth.

And where did they steal the identities from?

And they'll tell you that our whole voting system is,

is clean, it's sanctified.

It's, don't worry, we don't need voter ID.

There's no such thing as voter fraud, right?

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