Hour 1: Dan Steals Stan's Nuggets (feat. Stan Van Gundy)

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Look at who's here. The lead game analyst for the NBA on prime. He's half the man he used to be.

He look at him. Look at him. Stand in gundy with us. Sixers at Detroit, Celtics at OKC on

thursday. A special game last night in the association. So we start obviously here with Stan

talking about food. Stan there. DTF St. Louis. They're down to feast in St. Louis at the ballpark.

You got $29. Get you an assortment of foods. All you can eat here Stan hot dogs, chicken nuggets,

bratwurst, nacho chips, popcorn, french fries, peanuts, kettle chips, ice cream and fountain

drinks for $29. What does Stan Van gundy think of that deal as a baseball fan? He's in Houston. He

went to the world baseball classic yesterday. He loves baseball just as much as he loves basketball,

but he loves food more than both of them. What do you think of this unlimited $29 deal here Stan?

That's a hell of a deal. I mean I would just make sure I didn't eat before I went to the game

that night. That's a hell of a deal. What would be your choices there? What would you go with? How

much damage do you think you would do? Well I would have the first line there that I would get a

diet coke, the hot dogs, the chicken nuggets. I'd probably well I might get a brat but definitely

popcorn and yeah that would be it but I'd eat a lot of all that stuff. So you would make them regret

their decision to make all of that $29? I would try to make them regret it. Yes. Your love of

baseball tell me about going to the world baseball classic. What did you see yesterday? Well it was

incredible. I had never and I didn't really think about it until I was going but for all the

sporting events I've been to. I had never been to a major international match like you know

I was talking to my brother and he's been to the Olympics and the World Cup in basketball. He's

been to the women's World Cup in soccer. I had never been to anything and it was phenomenal

against Mexico. I mean the atmosphere before the game there were probably more Mexico fans there

than USA fans. They were certainly louder. USA had a five-run inning and got up five-nothing but

Mexico battled back and made it interesting and the crowd was really into it. I haven't been

and I've been to the World Series when the Marlins were in it. I've been to the World Series back

in the day when I was young in the A's were in it. I've never been in a stadium that was as

electric as it was last night. Judge and Roman Anthony hit home runs but Bobby Witt Jr. made

two of the best defensive plays. You would see Judge made an incredible throw to throw a guy

out at third base. I mean it was just a lot of fun. I was hurt and defended that you went on another

show and told people that Dwight Howard had not only a world-class NBA IQ but was also an

All-Star Farter. I just got asked the question. I didn't bring it up. I did not bring it up. Well

now I'm asking. I just verified the story. So what constitutes being an All-Star Farter? No

no I didn't say that. I did not say that. They they said that the story was that you know in walkthroughs

and things that he would fart and I said yes that's true. That's it for me. I didn't I don't

classify an All-Star. I don't know if there isn't All-Star in that category. So he's cropped

Austin. Yeah I guess. But do you have second place? Like who else is all NBA Farter in your experience?

No I don't have that. I don't have that. But think about it for next time. Okay. Yeah check.

Yes give it give it some thought and and make sure to get back to us on that. I mean I'll spend a

lot of time thinking about that guys. Since February 1st okay the NBA's best record number one

San Antonio Boston number two NBA net rating San Antonio number one Boston number two NBA defense

number one Boston San Antonio number two are those your NBA finals team Stan? I don't know I mean

I still think look Oklahoma City you look at the number of injuries they've had and they still

have the best record in the league. I mean it's incredible. I mean Jalen Williams has missed

40 games and they've had numerous guys missed games. Isaiah Hartenstein I think has missed 30 games.

FGA missed 12 games. AJ Mitchell just came back after missing 20 games straight. It's incredible.

I mean they haven't had their team and yet they have the best record. So I would still say

until somebody knocks them off there the favorite but I like San Antonio. I like Boston but I think

the east is wide open New York Cleveland Detroit and then even you've got a lot of teams

starting to play well now. I mean the team nobody's going to want a face is Charlotte in the first

round. I mean so you went through all those things in the last seven weeks. Charlotte is tied for

the best record in the east with Boston and they are tied only City and Antonio has a better record

than they do. Somebody in the first or second spot is going to get them in the first round and

they're playing as well as anybody in the league right now. Stan I wonder what your thoughts are

when you heard people on television or radio before Jason Taylor returned speaking about how

difficult it might be for the Celtics to reintegrate Tatum because I remember you dealt with

something similar when you were coaching Orlando with Jamir Nelson. Yeah I didn't really worry

about Boston's ability to reintegrate him. He's played with with all those guys. I just am shocked

that in 10 months this guy is able to come back and has looked the way he has. Now he hasn't

shot the ball well but he's looked like he's moving well and playing well. I've been through it

you know with the guy coming back off of an Achilles and usually when they come back it's still

a good long time almost an entire season before they're back playing at a high level and that's

guys that have taken a full year or more to get back. So I'm absolutely shocked to see what he's

doing out there. Obviously he did an unbelievable job in his rehab because he looks like the same old

Jason Tatum to me. Were you tempted at all to say Miami when you said Charlotte there group them

when you're talking about team other teams in the east you say the east is wide open. I don't

agree with you. I think Boston is better than everybody and I don't trust everybody. You call

a lot of heat for comments recently on Detroit because you know how offensively limited that team is.

Yeah yeah look I love Detroit. I mean as a guy who really respects hard play in teams the

defense have into the floor. The whole thing I love them. I just know that the regular season and

playoffs are two totally different challenges. The regular season you know is about how often your

team is ready to play and you know brings close to their best and Detroit has been phenomenal at

that but the playoffs are what your best is. I would agree with you right now with Tatum back

looking the way he is that Boston's the favorite but I don't think that they're an overwhelming

favorite. I don't I think New York Cleveland Detroit Miami starting to play well or Lando is

playing well now and they don't have their best player so you know injuries are going to be a

big part of it. I mean you give me the top four or five teams in the east and do the same in the

west. Tell me who's going to be healthiest that's who I'll pick. Did you just make Wagner better

than Boncaro? Yeah I think he's their best player if you're looking at both ends in a floor. I mean

it's close and I will say Palo Bencaro since the All Star Break has been a different guy. I mean he's

been great. He's been much more aggressive. I didn't think up until the All Star Break that he

was playing great. I thought he was playing okay. I didn't think he was playing great but since

he All Star Break he's been phenomenal. They get those two guys in Desmond Bayne. They've rediscovered

their defensive identity. I think they've got a shot. I mean New York has stumbled in the two

games in LA but their defensive identity is back. Look at I do I think it's wide open. I would

agree with you that Boston's a favorite but I think it's wide open. Last night's game between

O.K.C. and Denver was really great. It was great from start to finish. Denver is down seven with

a minute twelve left and tie the game even though Yokech missed a free throw. The math on that is

hard. Dork again did a foul to Yokech hit him in the face and it was a flagrant.

Shade Gilgis Alexander tied Wil Chamberlain scoring streak by getting 20 points in 126

straight games. When I say that to you Stan, what are your thoughts just on that? The Shade Gilgis

Alexander has tied Wil Chamberlain scoring streak of 20 points in a game in 126 straight games.

Yeah and a look that's that's phenomenal and we have their game Thursday night

where he will more than likely break that record. I mean if you tell me you guys

scored in double figures 126 straight games it's phenomenal. I mean but 20 points in basically

a season and a half straight worth of games. That's mind boggling and anytime you're doing something

in a scoring realm that surpasses Wil Chamberlain. I mean it's incredible what Shade Gilgis Alexander

has done. I mean not only has he been great but that level of consistency is incredible.

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Wind horse has mentioned that empirically, numerically, the Lakers are good when it's

Luca and Austin Reeves, but not when Lebrons on the court. What do you do with that?

First of all, I would say that they don't have enough of a sample size with all three of those

guys healthy to really know what's going to work and not work. But I look, I looked at those numbers

the other day. Yeah. And Luca and Reeves has been better than either one of those guys with Lebron.

So I mean, it's true. I just don't know if it's meaningful in the sample size that we have.

I still think the big problem with the Lakers is going to be whether or not they are able to

defend at a high level. They're going to score. They're not going to be able to defend at a high

level. What do you do? I don't think so either. They're not going to. Like, what are you talking about?

And I would agree with you. But it's the question. If they can, then they've got a chance. But

I don't see how because you're three best players, none of them are plus defenders. Like,

they use, I mean, Lebron used to be. I mean, he was as good a defender as there was in the league,

but at 41 years old, he's not an above average defender anymore. And Luca and Reeves certainly aren't.

It's going to be, it's going to be very, very tough for them. And the West is just really difficult.

The team, I think, in the West that, you know, can give San Antonio and Oklahoma City a run is Denver.

They have not been healthy all year as we know. And yet, they're still hanging in there. And if they,

when they get everybody back, you know, I didn't think it was a good sign last night, though,

because they were fully healthy last night. And Oklahoma City was, you know, Aaron Gordon was so good

last night. Like, he's very key to them. But, you know, I would have thought, even though it was

on the road last night, they should have been able to pull that one out with no jail in Williams,

no shed home grin, no Isaiah Hartenstein. I mean, like, that was their chance in no Alex Caruso and

still Oklahoma City wins. I mean, that, that's what I'm saying. I mean, Oklahoma City, they have

the best record in the league. And these guys have missed a ridiculous amount of games.

He's the lead game analyst for NBA on Prime. As I mentioned, sixers at Detroit and Celtics at

OKC on Thursday on Friday. It's Cavs at Dallas and T-Wols at Golden State on Saturday. It's Hornets

at San Antonio. That's this week on NBA on Prime. I want to speed stand up, though. I'm going to make

his answer short. Tony's dying to get in here with a thousand questions. So we're going to speed

you up. Let's give him some music here. You mentioned the LeBron was a great defender in his prime.

The best defender in the league right now is blank. The Thompson twins, the, uh, both of them.

They're just equal. You're making. You know what? Yeah, I would have told me now early in the year,

but watching a star as the years gone on. I think he's his brother's equal at the defense event.

A men's a better offensive plan. Uh, the best shooter in the league after Steph Curry is blank.

The best shooter in the league, period, just shooter is Luke Canard.

Better than Steph. Well, I just as a shooter. Yeah, but he, Luke can't get his shot.

Put it on the put put it on the pole at LeBotard show is a Stan Van Gundy crazy for saying that

Luke Canard is a better shooter than Steph Curry. OK, see, you never let me explain myself.

Luke can't get his own shot. Steph is by far the more dangerous shooter and player,

but if we're just going to stand there and shoot the ball, Luke Canard's the best shooter.

The best front office in the sport is blank. Well, you got, I mean, Oklahoma City,

but San Antonio's pretty damn close. Is Khan Knipple the most fun name to say on a broadcast?

You know, we haven't had their games, but yes, it would be, and I would love to, uh, love to do that.

Though I will say this. OK, I had a college game, the only college game I did before I do

March Madness Tuesday night and the point guard at, and this is his true name, the point guard at

Xavier is his last name is right. His first name is all. He is all right. And now,

crazy or than that, his brother, his brother who plays, I want to say it like real grand valley

or something. His first name is always. Do you have a Hornets game? Can we get you to say

some form? Can we get you to shout some form of Genuflect before the Nipple?

No, you're not going to get me to say that, but I do hope we get one of their games.

We have Amazon Prime has the play in games. They're going to be in that. We have all the play in,

so hopefully I'll get a Charlotte game because their turnaround has been incredible. I watched

them early in the year and I thought, same old Charlotte, and now literally, there is good as

anybody. I mean, we're talking about Boston and they're the favorite. Great. I agree, but

Charlotte's been just as good over the last seven weeks. Charlotte has had the best offense

in the league since the 22nd of January and the sixth best defense. I mean, they've been phenomenal

and con-Kennepal has been a huge part of that. I think he's the rookie of the year just on

availability and teams. Why won't you say bow before the Nipple? Why won't you say it?

You know, you guys, like, I'm not going to say it. Yeah, you're not going to get me to say that.

Coach, obviously you mentioned con-Kennepal's year-reucu the year. This has been a super tight race

between Cooper, Flag and con-Kennepal. Do you feel like con-Kennepal who's now the betting faster?

Will win? I do think you'll win. I think it's more on availability. He's played more games. He's on

a better team. Cooper Flag's fabulous, but I think con-Kennepal's a rookie of the year.

Everybody talks about Wembee and going praise and all that. Can you give me Wembee's flaw, his one flaw?

You can turn him over. He's, you know, at seven foot four, he's got a high dribble. You can

attack him on the dribble and he can at times become a mistake player.

Kawai Leonard having his best season after 14 years. Can you describe what he's doing?

They're 26 and 11 and they're last 37 games. I mean, that's the other great turnaround

this year. They started 6 and 21 and Kawai has had to absolutely carry that team offensively. I mean,

and he's been up to the challenge and the thing with Kawai too is he's not only puts up big numbers,

but he does it so efficiently and he does it with defenses loaded up to him.

What do you think the penalty should be if all of this around Kawai Leonard is true,

the way that Pavlotori finds out seems making it, keeps making it seem like it's all true?

Well, to me, it's, it's not a matter just if it's true. It's a matter of who was doing it and what

the motivation was. I mean, I do not think that Steve Balmer was involved in this. I don't think

either directly or indirectly. So I don't have any idea. Why? Because I just don't see,

I don't see why. I mean, the guy's making all kinds of money. I mean, I don't, I don't see why.

I really don't. It's tens of millions of dollars that are being hidden there. You think

that escapes his attention? I don't have any idea. I really don't. On the business side of things,

I just, I don't have any idea what was going on with any of that. You haven't heard any of Pavlotori's

episodes have you? You just don't want to. I have heard. I have heard. I've read stuff. I have not

heard any of them. But listen, I do think Pavlotori's, I mean, I think he's a good journalist.

I think he does a good job. I'm not slighting him, but no, I haven't. See, I, listen,

it's the same thing. You know this when you start talking to me about sports and in basketball,

about potential trades and salary cap and free agent things. I'm interested in the games. I don't,

I just don't get caught up in a lot of the other stuff.

Stan, the Hornets sent the heat a second-round pick yesterday from the Terry Rozier trade

from two years ago. Should the heat be upset about that whole situation?

About the Terry Rozier situation. I mean, everybody's upset about all of this. That stuff is,

you know, it's affected the league in a bad way. So if again,

depending on what everybody knew and if they knew what was going on and sent the

heat Terry Rozier and didn't tell the heat, yeah, the heat should be upset. The heat should be

more upset that Terry Rozier didn't play very well. Let's play some sound here of Steve Kerr and

get Stan Van Gundy's reaction to this. I know this will not be a popular opinion in the league

office, but I will continue to to say it because it's obvious we need to play fewer games. We need

to take 10 games off the schedule. I think it would be great for the league and I get it. It's

revenue and you'd have to get everybody to agree to take a little less money and that's a really

hard thing to do. But what I know about the league, about coaching, about how hard it is to play

the modern game with the pace and the space, I think it would be a more competitive and healthier

league if we played fewer games. Stan? Well, look, I agree. I think that to me the best way, if we

wanted just great quality of play, the best way to play the league would be a very balanced schedule.

Everybody would play everybody twice. We'd play 58 games and we would take our best teams

into the playoffs. But I do think something's missing from the argument. I don't think fewer games

in and of itself is enough. I think the biggest problem with injuries is not the number of games.

I think the biggest problem with injuries is that people have stopped practicing and the

the league wide way to do things has been to do less and less and less. I think the players are

deconditioned. And yes, the game is more demanding than ever, but it's nonsensical to me that as

there are greater demands, we do less in preparation. No other sport would think of doing it that way.

Ask the swimmers if as they meet more demands, they do less and less and less. No, you do more and

more and more. I think we've deconditioned players. I don't think we practiced enough. I think that's

the problem. I think that there are people who in the scientific world who are coming around to

that. But listen, here's the thing. It's a CYA situation and no strength in conditioning coach,

no coach is ever going to be chastised for doing too little. The guy got hurt and you haven't

practiced enough. That's never going to happen. But if they think you're working guys too hard,

playing guys too many minutes and they get hurt, then you have a problem. All I know is this.

We're doing less and less and less in terms of practice. We've load managed, we've given

guys games off and injuries continue to climb. Something isn't working. Whether that's too many

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strike and then you stand up and you give a good point to the right. Stoogats.

That's same for strike two but strike three you get down low you got your hands behind the catcher

all right the right arm goes up into the air yeah and then you finish it with a punch.

The right arm flings way up into the air yeah yeah

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Stan why are they practicing last when did that start?

Well it was a gradual thing over the years and it just you know it became the idea that

you know the game is more demanding so these guys need more rest it makes sense

it's just not working I mean and I think that I think you can I don't think

practices need to have the contact all the time but I do think these guys need to be

getting up and down the court on a more regular basis I look at a lot of these soft tissue

injuries and I'm saying wait a minute now we shouldn't have as many pulled muscles and things

like that as we have I mean you're you're not going to get away from the knee injuries

and things like that we've already we've always had those um you know but

with with pull the hamstrings and groins and all of that I don't know to me that's as much

a conditioning issue as anything there's not many people um going to agree with me on this

because again the do less is really attractive to players to coaches to everybody that just do less

don't get criticized for it show up and play games um is is a popular way to go about it

put it on the pole please juju and I should remind people uh juju's got new music out today his name

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here because Tony's got a lot for stand and I want to get to it Stan are we going to fall for the

Minnesota trap again where they look good at the end of the season then getting to the playoffs

they kind of fall flat and fizzle out no we're not going to fall for that they always get us too

no i'm like i'm not anymore no not anymore what else you got for him Tony we got to speed it up

are the wizards heading in the right direction as a franchise no that's going to be the

next one Dan's gotten good at this game Stan's gotten good at this game what's your next question

I would like to see if we could change the music for a second to do a stat of the day with Stan is

that possible no it is not oh no a third no for you the nicks uh are you believing that they are

something that can actually be for real this year and get to the eastern conference finals yes

ooh what are you believing in there they're defense you believing that their defense is really

started to step up and they are an elite offensive team so yeah i i believe they've got a shot i

think they and and Boston could be a terrific series last time that you were on with us you said

that yoke uh not yoke i'm sorry luca was the best offensive player you had ever seen are you

sticking to that yeah i think so i mean it's he and yoke it's and and i said the other night

because we had all three of them in the same game in Denver yoke it's lebron and donchets the three

certainly best all around offensive players can handle the ball pass shoot from range

post up take the ball to the basket pass off the dribble i mean those three guys are the only

guys i can think of that can do everything required in the game at an elite level true or false

when b's going to start hogging all the championships man certainly possible i i don't know that

anybody in i don't know that anybody can totally dominate there's going to be some good teams but

god that team is really good and he's unbelievable you don't seem to understand you don't seem to

understand true or false it's true or false okay well i'll say false because i don't think anybody's

going to hog all the championships but if anybody's going to it would be yeah there you go

wait a minute how did that get in here did Roy get Roy overruled me coming during the ship then

i got over how do i get overruled i got to get like a mutiny you better watch him

start of the day the league leader in points per possession on isos is not who you think it is

obviously we have incredible offensive prowess in the NBA the number one person in the NBA on

points per possession on isos is patent-pitchard at 1.3 points per possession on isobal

stan can you tell me how good of a season patent-pitchard is having if that's number one

well i think what's been phenomenal he's having a great season but what's been unbelievable to

me is this guy got his opportunity to start they decided it would be best for him to go back to

the bench and he's played better off the bench than he did as a starter so he's not a guy who'd

spend any time palton he's averaged more points off the bench higher percentage feel goal higher

three point percentage higher free throw percentage more assists i mean he's been better off the

bench i mean incredible i mean that team in what they've done and that organization in terms of

developing talent and understanding talent i should have thrown them in i thought that's what

you're going to answer i thought that's what you were going to answer when i asked you best front

office in tonio and boston have been phenomenal i i think but i think what all those three teams have

done too is they have done a great job in talent evaluation all three of them and then their

coaching staffs have all done an incredible job in developing players and if you're just talking

boston look payton's Richard and sim house or i remember god i don't know how many years back

i watched them in a series against my amy and they tried to play those guys and that they they

couldn't i mean my amy just abused both of them and joma zoolah stuck with those guys and now they're

two very important players and then i watched baler shire men is a rookie and i'm like god i don't

know if this guy will ever be an nba player now i watch him and you know over the last eight games

here he's averaged over ten points of game and shooting phenomenal percentages namiya's keta

i think is better for them then christoppoor zingas was for what they need they just keep

binding and developing players i think san and tonio and okc have done the same thing

yeah that's three phenomenal organizations and brad stevens to me for somebody to have the

success he had coaching and then the front office success he had there's not too many people who have

done that obviously pat riley right there in my amy has had a six phenomenal success on both sides

but probably the next best behind pat would be brad stevens you're not going to believe this

stand but as we were leaving isp and there was a giant wrestling match for our intellectual property

and we somehow were able to wrestle this away from isp and i'm now time for his time i'm going to

stop mba no get done it Tuesday show huh thingy we're bringing back the nuggets of stanvin gundi do you

have some nuggets for us you know what here's the thing i had nuggets prepared and then we we've

hit on we've hit on most of them i had my charlotte nugget because i didn't think people realized how

good they were i will go on with my i will go this though since we're talking mvp race a little bit

so we talked about sga and is street 126 straight games i'll give you a nugget on that the second

longest active street kawaii Leonard who we talked about it's exactly one third of sga's

streaky scored 20 plus in 42 straight games that's the second active streak and by the way

will chamberland also has the next longest streaky had another streak of 92 straight games of

of 20 over so that's a very long nugget and then my third one is on uh would be on yogicch

no one has ever at any point in their in their career had a season where they let the league

in rebounds per game and at a season where they let the league in a cis per game and yogicch is on track

to do that in both categories this season i think he's a better offensive player than michael

jordan people think that it's offensive to say that but i it is okay is it if you say

anybody's better at anything in basketball than michael jordan if you are going to get a ton of

pushback i mean it's just the michael jordan fans are out there like here's the one i got pushback

on and i don't even see how you can get pushback on this we could argue all day on who the best

player is and everything else but the thing you cannot argue to me is no one has had a career

even close to lebron james no one's had a career close to him in the NBA now you want to say

at their prime who's better everything else fine go ahead argue but you can't i mean this guy

is going to put the scoring record out of reach and that's not the best part of his game

last two minutes here and it's not enough time the state of american politics at the moment go

ahead stand have at it uh listen i mean it's it's it's almost unthinkable that we're where we are

i mean it's just like forget let's try to even put aside the ideology okay which is hard for me to

do um an ideology of hate and racism and prejudice that half the country has embraced that's

unthinkable to me but even beyond that even if you're on that side and you're a conservative

through and through like can we hire people that have some experience and some qualifications

can we hire some people with intelligence like i don't think you can hire a less competent

administration if your goal was to be as incompetent as possible that's the dismount uh thank you

stand always good seeing you uh we miss you around here please make your way around here more often uh

we love you love you guys too keep having fun and i see all your you know you're getting ready for

march madness so am i i'll get my uh assignments on uh sunday and uh find out where i'm going

that i love you had a question mark on it didn't it like he said that in a way that was i love you

too i think it was a it was trying to get another burp okay you're right

is he later standing good good good good good see you spectacular stuff