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This is the down laboratory show with this two got spot cast.

So the heat are officially agitated by some of what's already happening on a fun night for Miami

nationally. I have just gotten a text here. Hey Kobe took the last 24 shots and wasn't criticized

at the time. Don't know what would have happened if the lizards it says lizards here played basketball

instead of mucking it up with five smalls but their bigs couldn't guard BAM anyway BAM probably

earned more free throws based on how often he was fouled than he got in that game. And then I

also got the tweet sent to me from Ethan Skolnik who is speaking on behalf of the heat fan base

There is no written rule he's faster than you are telling you're not as close to you. It's not

cuz he's closer to me it's because it's his gimmick and he's better he's faster at it because

he's sharpened it over the years Ethan Skolnik hold on a second I'd like you to make the case

how me being closer to him because because you don't have to put your finger on the button

I'm literally further away it takes more time for it to reach my ears and it does your ears

that's science buddy oh no way no way minor penalty two and it's for a shit conclusion

it's geographic take the puppet with you take the puppet with you uh Ethan Skolnik writes

they leave it there they're

mikes rage at the puppet as overtaken on the entire uh environment there is no written rule

in sports about who is worthy of breaking a record every player for the past 20 years has

stepped on a court with a chance to score more than 81 points one did in a win someone who's

better at defense if you can't celebrate that stop watching uh there is some hatred of basketball

that is polluting some of the coverage in a way that bothers me as someone who really loves

basketball and doesn't mind it evolving into a different sport than it has been uh but my rage

is reserved for the man who presently joins us right now Ron McGill has been making a farewell

retirement tour on every media outlet known to man except the one that cares about him most

this one right here the people who support Ron McGill's endowment and I don't mean to turn a

syrupy wonderful nice thing into something that is filled with hot acid but I am rabid with rage that

Ron McGill has taken weeks and now is going to come on here and give us the same sound bites he's

given everyone else about his emotional leaving uh in retirement of the zoo uh Ron instead of

celebrating you uh explain yourself uh I just can't believe what I just heard no I'm serious I can't

believe what I just heard um I was out of town I announced my retirement two weeks ago three weeks

ago um I I immediately went out of town with my wife I was unavailable um I had an emergency

procedure come up at the zoo where I couldn't go on the last week and we rescheduled for this week

but uh if you look in my retirement um video which I you know uh first of all I was not prepared

for the reactions I was thinking I was just making an announcement on my social media platform

for my friends to know what was going on and that was it I did not expect the overwhelming

response that came of it and if you notice in that recording that I made I think there is a

picture of you there Dan I think there's a picture of you there where I'm specifically talking

about people in the media who helped create all that means nothing you have 400 people behind you

in the media like look at all those pictures behind you that that shriemed in the media that has

helped you uh make you the legend that you are today it doesn't mean anything to be one of your

media friends you have 7th out you're a media friend prostitute in that video these people are not

on that video you're on that video that's what a lot of people saw a lot of people don't see

that that in my office and I don't have a picture of you because I've asked for it many many times

but you're just too good to send it I don't have headshots I'm not going day it's not

to headshots it doesn't stop it headshots shut off I don't have headshots to all these headshots

even on all headshots there's some nice casual shots of just people that are my you know I thought

were my friends looked behind you they're all shots they're all glamour shots behind you of an

assortment of media people there's a lot of headshots there also some not headshots it doesn't have

to be exclusively a headshot Dan okay I am thrilled for you I've known for a while that this has been

in the works I play on the front end with our most beloved figure here because you have been

making the rounds and you have been tapping into some emotions as you've said that surprised you

I'm surprised though that after all these years you're surprised that people care about you

you care about the animals in an uncommon way and you're going to be missed because you can't

be replaced well that that's not true first of all I'm retiring from Miami-Dade County I'm not

leaving the zoo because the zoo Miami Foundation has created this fantastic position for me that's

going to enable me to do all the things that I love to do I'm going to run the travel program I'm

going to do the speaking engagements I'm going to work as an expert for the media without you know

the bureaucracy in a lot of rotate that's normally associated with county government and what has

surprised you about the reaction just the extent of it I mean I came in the next morning you know

I made that announcement that evening and then the next morning I come to the zoo I get to the

zoo at 6 a.m. every day and I'm driving in and there's three live news trucks in front of the

zoo and I'm panicking I'm thinking oh my god something got out something died somebody got hurt

what happened and I drive up to one of the photons and I go what do you guys hear for it he just

looked at me without hesitation he goes for you dummy and I went what that didn't register to me

it really didn't register to me all I can conclude is that it was a very very very slow news day

no why do you do this can you guys help me with this his self-deprecation is charming

but come on Ron Ron you're an icon in South Florida when you're a fossil I'm a fossil you're

that too you're an iconic fossil that's fine I've been along for a long time but if I have

one more person come up to me and tell me how I went to their kindergarten class and they want

to introduce me to their kids I don't know how I'm going to deal with that because you know there's

that old saying this is how old would you be if you didn't know how old you were I'm in my

my mid 30s I mean but then I have these you know these adults with their own kids coming to them

and telling their kids oh he went to my class when I was in kindergarten and I'm like that that's

hard for me to register I don't understand that Ron we are a transient community we don't have

very many South Florida icons and you are somebody who reaches across multiple generations

as someone who's associated not just with the zoo but caring and decent to both animals and

humans there aren't a lot of people like that in South Florida publicly or privately and so I

insist that you take this praise and this applause because people people will miss you because you

cannot be replaced there's never been anything like you in the history of the city and there will

never again be anything like you in the history of the city very kind and I really appreciate

those words I just don't you know like I said I carry a chip of my shoulder for a long time because

I get a lot of undeserved credit I'm just I tell people I'm a storyteller the story of the people

you don't see I know because I used to be one of those people you know the irony of life is that

I'm here now I have a nice office I get a very nice paycheck and I worked less hard than I did

when I was out there with a wheelbarrow and a rake in the rain picking up crap and dumping it in

dumpsters and not getting any kind of recognition for anything when I was in fact doing the work that

was making people like me in the office get all the credit that they don't deserve and that's

kind of a juxtaposition that bothers me so it's a it's a hard time for me to accept this praise

when really I'm just a storyteller now now I really appreciate that I mean I really profoundly

appreciate the love you know people come up to me and they want to take a picture of stuff and

people ask me does it bother you when people do that let me ask you something would bother anybody

to have someone come up to you say can I take a picture with you I mean that's like the greatest

compliment you can have the people even know who you are so that that for me it's just hard for me

to take because I come from a very kind of humble family where my dad always made me realize listen

you're not such a hot thing okay he said you're very smart but you're no better than anybody else

and that was raised though I mean he was half right you're not that smart so let's play some

videos here for Ron McGill that we have we have first and perhaps you can explain this

a snake is eating itself and it ends up regurgitates when something when hand sanitizer is put on

it so can you explain to me why it is that the snake arrives at eating itself and what happens here

that the hand sanitizer makes it uncoil that's a king snake and king snakes regularly feed on

other snakes now snakes are not necessarily the brightest bulb in the chandelier it may have had

a feeding reaction and caught its own tail by mistake and just instinctively started swallowing

its own tail it also could have been purposely fed its own tail by the person trying to make the

video who wants clicks from people like you who are going to put it on the air so it gets more of

the hits that it wants so I take all this stuff with a green assault now so I said that king

snakes are snake ears they feed on other snakes and it's not incomprehensible that it would

mistakenly see its tail and bite its tail and start feeding the tail but would it die that way

would it keep going it wouldn't die it wouldn't die it wouldn't die it would eventually regurgitate

that when it realized I can't I can't eat this it would eventually regurgitate let's play another

video here for Ron and you guys please do some play by play on this Ron this is not you've told

us before that the sea is not an area of expertise for you but regardless do some play by play here

that you if you can okay I give him my best shot oh it's a type of anemone it's so it's kind

of dancing to the ocean they're looking for another host to launch itself to latch itself onto

because these anemones need to find a coral some type of foundation to latch itself onto and that's

what it's doing right now that's its way of swimming to find another location that it will eventually

let onto and then grow onto that coral and be homes for things like clownfish and other animals that

use an enemies has kind of a base for their home because an enemies are toxic they have a toxin

in them and some fish like the clownfish are immune to those toxins so the clownfish go in there

and they're protected by the anemones so they're not eaten by other fish that are not immune to those

toxins and are afraid of the anemone can you explain to people what an anemone is anemone is a

type of invertebrate that lives in the ocean that I don't know how to explain it's a living thing

that's in the ocean that feeds on fish feeds on different types of you know animals in the ocean

to swim by will go into the anemone and then there's toxins in those little tentacles that kill

the fish and consume the fish but the anemone doesn't swim it has to lure them in there so it does

so with those tentacles this fish are curious to look to feed in there the tentacles grab it

now animals like the clownfish have an immunity to those toxins and hence use the anemone as a safe

space where it can hide in there not be affected by the the toxins and not be eaten by other fish

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into a 7-11 and bought a pack of cigarettes but my question to Ron is this stew gots that

joke didn't really land the way you wanted to do it and we all just stared at you at all

this is the done lebertard show with this stew gots

you have alleged before quite controversially that the eagle is just a buzzer with a good

with a good PR agent a good PR agent yes a vulture with a good PR agent let's play

this video of an eagle and see if you want to retract your statement because this eagle is going

into the water with its claws and uh yeah very officially you know very efficiently grabbing a fish

and that is that's fairly amazing right there those are those are hard to catch

they're not they're not easy to catch and i'm not to say that the eagle is not a good hunter when

it needs to be however it will always take the easy way out small it will always take the easy

way out in the sense that it would rather get a fish that's dead on the shore it would rather

steal the fish from another bird or rather find itself at a dump site where it could eat trash

the most eagles i've ever seen in my life were in Alaska on a dump site where there were 200

plus eagles eating trash off of the dump Ron you know you know what that looks like to me America

jack a nice bald eagle flying through the sky getting a fish that i thought was going to be a lot

bigger when he pulled it out by the way i was expecting like a salmon like the like the grizzly

bears getting the wild what is the what is the heaviest fish that a bird of prey can get out of the

water what what is the greatest uh thing that you've seen in that regard i mean i've seen eagles

and osprey is get fish you know three four pounds out of the water and that's a lot when you

consider the bird itself only weighs maybe seven or eight pounds let's study some manatees here

with Ron McGill shall we i'd like to see some moments here between manatees they are we've got a ton

of here in south florida what's happening here Ron what's happening here this is probably a crystal

river one of those places that has a natural spring that provides warm water during the cold streaks

when we have our cold fronts come through florida these manatees instinctively go to these springs they'll

go to places like fp and l some of the nuclear plants they're sent out the warm water they all go

to get the warm water because they're very susceptible to cold cold can can can stun them can kill

them in fact so during cold streaks you will see these manatees literally congregate sometimes in

the hundreds i know at crystal river i was there once when there was over 400 manatees all congregated

in this one river where all this warm water is coming out and that's what they're there for

they dare to get the warm water that they need to survive Ron in hot days are they looking for cold

water and if so there's been times where people that i've seen not that i have done it myself

people that i've seen have given them water out of lamangera on their face to like because they're

they're in this hot canal in the keys or whatever and it's like here's a lot of the hoses they love

the water from the hoses but then i loving the hoses to cool them off they're loving the hoses

for the fresh water to drink uh is this a romantic moment here between manatees

what is happening here um i am not sure what's happening there no it's not necessarily a romantic

moment it's certainly a meeting moment to uh kind of you know recognizing each other trying to

figure out who each other is but it's not a romantic moment romantic gets a little bit more involved

uh let's play a sound here for Ron and have him guess the animal

that's it that's what you're giving me what what what do you think that animal looks like they just

keep playing it for me that's not long enough to tell me anything almost sounds like a dog barking

but i couldn't tell you what that is thank you good if you had to take a guess that wasn't a dog

go ahead and go through the animal kingdom and see what it is that you find just the size of the

animal it could be a toad it could be um it could be

have no idea with that it sounds like i said some type of toad or something like that it

it could be it could be breeding leopards you know

that is Greg toady that is the stomach of Greg toady after he has not eaten for 16 hours

and has just been having a lot of coffee a tower show end did the other day

it was his stomach i just threw up a little in my mouth let's discuss

right it's it's strange that he would not eat anything for 16 hours and then have two thermoses

full of coffee and be surprised when his stomach starts making those sounds

yeah what strange is it it's recorded that's what strange

Ron you know what strange that is recorded that people are really just taking liberties with

and i don't really like it have you heard about this new dinosaur show with Morgan Freeman i

think Spielberg has uh has touched it a little bit i heard about i haven't seen it but i heard

about it yeah okay what i'm done with is these people anybody in the scientific community thinking

they know what happened 265 million years ago oh this is how they would eat this is how they

walked the t-rex actually didn't sound like that it sounded more like a frog like oh you people

have no idea what you're talking about everything dinosaur related is absolute hogwash

Ron McGill thank you mike six thousand actually

you know tonia i'm with you on most of that you know there are some bases on how they can figure

out how a dinosaur may have walked just by the skeletal structure and how they can compare it to

skeletal structures of today's animals uh but when you come to color when you come to sounds

no i'm with you that i mean that's all strictly guessing they're pulling it out of their butt

it was like oh this is the mating dance it's like you have seven bones of the animal how the

fricking you know i'm with you tonia i'm with you but you know people interested in that kind

of stuff so they'll keep throwing it out there so they keep getting the clicks one i am hopeful

that ron will be around here even more and that we will be doing even more with him in retirement

he's not going anywhere it's not going anywhere to this show and the love that he has for its

fans and the love they have for him a reminder if you want to celebrate a retiring ron McGill

his endowment the charity is supported by our fans and his fans through this show more than it is

anywhere else and he is now going to be running that endowment basically a full time so he's

going to be concentrating on that damn that's a long time ago using your money to buy himself a

Cadillac and fancy your clothes and go to New York vacations with his wife he laughs in your face

at your charity because he is a shameless criminal thank you ron we uh we appreciate your time

congratulations on your retirement it's been earned you deserve to rest a little bit and concentrate

only on the things that you love the most thank you Dan thank you guys we'll talk to you soon

what did you think of bams 83 last night ron i thought they were freaking phenomenal i thought it

was fantastic and uh you know anybody's trying to downplay that should be shot i mean this is a

wonderful task in the sense that you know nobody since wilt has done that he beat Kobe beat i mean

come on this is it it's a huge thing and it should be shot he couldn't be more right about this

ron what anyone who create states to wait a minute so you would have no problem you would defend

me and you would come to court if i just wander around my amy right now and anyone who was criticizing

them i just shot them with a water pistol see you later ron good talk to you uh can i get that Greg

Cody video again as he's bothered by his neighbors uh because he's not filming this himself he's

he's picked a terrible terrible week to leave okay the dolphins have a new quarterback bamscores 83

max crossby's trade is rescinded the Italians beat the americans because the american manager didn't

know that it was a game that would have possibly cost them elimination and here's Greg Cody commenting

from Barbados okay so i want to vacation in the Caribbean and all kind of stuff keeps happening

in some form of sports stopping i'm on a beach in Portola British Virgin Islands and i find out

that the cantula cantuna and sign will equal us the dolphins have and now we're docking in Barbados

wrong capital of the world we'll be doing some wrong later today on a beautiful road tour

there's a rival cruise ship in the background anyway now we're pulling in the Barbados

and all anybody's talking about his band might have bought a sport 83 points

something to me bamscores 83 i'm like in a week in three or four games that's pretty good

83 points in one game hey

morning

probably really see the path

okay probably won't see not probably won't see the

okay

i don't know so i don't know that's that's okay

those are our friends from the sweet next door

let's say oh yeah

it's good for three four games

self-floor to sports quit doing things that are newsworthy while i'm on vacation have a little respect

they have a lot of bio of all people's sport 83 points more than Michael Jordan ever did

more than LeBron James is just insane anyway let me drink it some rum today well things keep

happening to self-floor to sports put it on the pole please are the balconies on cruise ships

private enough and also as it relates to him rumming and his stomach rumbling he's gonna have

so much rum today that his stomach is gonna be making sounds like that

and uh says low i'm not making this up when i say my brothers uh my late brothers very first

art exhibit Greg Cody an adult a responsible adult didn't know that you have to have the beer

after the liquor he had a bunch of wine after the beer and at my brothers very first art exhibit

he knocked a painting off the wall because he had had so much to drink and uh he's now

headed toward a bunch of rum and and what what Tony you know okay he come on we talked about

we talked to Ron he's deserved this beautiful retirement and you know the best we know our money

and all that stuff right correct Greg Cody deserves a little bit of run on you know in Tortuga

wherever he was it's Barbados it's not tortuga the other one tortellini it's the Spanish

tortellini for turtle and tortellini if you play the other one from yesterday i don't even know

what he was saying he's in the united states of torrella why is the other ship of rival

oh with any ship that's a competing cruise line would be the rival uh to the business all that's

it's a cutthroat industry how are you guys just bypassing the fact that one of my friends at my

brothers art exhibit these are these are things that are supposed to be at least a little formal couldn't

an adult couldn't drink correctly enough to not knock one of the paintings off of the wall because

he didn't bump into it like graze against it with his shoulder he was over there fiddle

fattling around and knocked the painting off like fiddle fattling

felt good when we said it

i also said manatees at one point

Mike explain your feelings about the puppet the puppet is great and i love Tony's use of the

puppet today uh and uh the puppet does indeed look like me although we have to do something about

how gray that beard is we have to darken some of it uh that hair came in gray and now has been

darkened what are your feelings in general about the puppet my feelings have been made known

not not not the puppet guy not not at all a puppet guy here although Tony is doing a pretty good

job with it in other rooms uh thank you Tony i appreciate you taking control of the puppet because i

eventually want that puppet to be the inner monologues inner monologue i want it to react to what it

is that Mike does as the inner monologue uh and argue with the inner monologue folks listen up quick

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side i wouldn't want to you like what did you say i'm telling you me and my friend the rest of the

the way home all we kept saying was i ain't cheating still gots i think you got your ass i think he

got your ass i got his ass Chris Chris won this one for sure not for that i don't like Jeremy

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from the other things that happened yesterday okay what is the proper amount of attention

for me to give the united states losing to italy and the manager not knowing what the rules are

well it depends a little bit on what happens tonight like depending on what happens next go

is favored to beat the us favored to beat italy but they as long as they score more than five runs

they'll be good but i mean score runs against italy like it seemed like the us struggled with that

a long stretch there right now the the us is plus two seventy five two not advanced the last time

i checked the line i mean i mean i may have ptsd but in international competition when the united

states needs mexico to help them out they don't tend to do that it's crazy because they seem to

really think they clinch the night before like de rosa was talking before the game like oh there's

some guys who were dragon they stayed up late he went on uh one of the mlb network shows and

was talking about how you know they were going to try to get some other guys playing time well the

manager saying they've clinched is a dead giveaway yeah and and by the way in the in the post game

press conference Jeremy he admitted that he got the calculations wrong it was just like whoa he

said he misspoke and then said he got the calculations wrong and then said he misspoke again

so they're two very different things those are two totally different things it seems as though

they had no idea what the scenario was for them and now they're in a position where if

mexico wins the game today and scores four or fewer runs the united states will not advance and it

will be mexico and italy in our national pastime i am looking at mark de rosa here and let's

hear real quick what it is that he had to say to explain himself yeah i misspoke i was on hot

stove with a couple buddies today and completely misread misread the calculations we knew that

mexico is going to play italy and then running all the numbers with if we lost tonight with the

runs allowed and run scored and outs so i just misspoke i don't believe them at all yeah i

i don't even understand what he's saying there he's saying two different things yes

the way that they approached the game from their lineup to like what they were doing in the game

the lack of urgency was crazy is that true like their their lineup would would portray that's what

he said he said he was going to play people he wouldn't normally play no one where i am with

the sport of baseball right now do you think it's a huge red flag if i know the situation better

than manager well i i'm going to go a step further on this okay if you've been listening to this show

for a while you know that i very infrequently fire people i very infrequently make the consequences

so strong on mistakes that the shame isn't enough as a punishment this is a fireable offense

i'm not even kidding you this kind of mistake on the national stage from mark de rosa

feels to me in the realm to any of what it is i've said that air expulster will regret that time

out that he didn't have the cost of them i thought you were going to fire him again like you did

last week against the pistons i believe that uh that will haunt air expulster for the rest of his

life i believe it's something that creeps into his sleep and affects it the fact that at the end

of a game he called the timeout he did not have and cost his team a game against the pistons and

this is worse this this is worse like i'm trying to think in the hypothetical go ahead if we want to

have another goat conversation most egregious mistake ever made by someone in charge in sports like

this by itself not knowing that you're playing in a game that might get you eliminated because

you think you've already advanced to the next round isn't incompetent so extreme and beyond my

understanding like i really don't get like he's sitting here saying i misspoke about the numbers

like they're so complicated complicated it's mad it's addition it's it's count up the runs it's

not some formula that he's doing that requires computer coding he said about outs to like is

outs part of the metrics like we didn't have enough outs this game like what the only one that i

could think of to compare would be jr smith and the finals thinking that they were ahead but i'm

talking about a leader a leader's job is to lead a player a player can make that's a great one

obviously forgetting the score but now imagine a coach doesn't know what the score is just one

of those run-of-the-mill world baseball classics with team USA we just do this whole home every day

we we would so much so that we don't know the situation it's like do you have a coaches meeting

do you talk about the tournament before so this is greaty little not taking out Pedro Martinez

this is so much worse than that so much worse trusting Pedro Martinez I can get behind

that seems easy well they almost went to Clayton Kershaw in the eighth inning he's there

basically is an honorary member he's a fighter he's not supposed to be there we're gonna put

on a five sky it was it was late in the game it was the eighth inning and they're warming up Clayton

Kershaw and everyone everyone watching is like is this is this for real jerry they not know what's

going on i had to google if my brain was wrong yeah because i'm like surely i must be wrong here

because i'm taking this way more seriously than the manager you know about that wrong brain

so this is peak carol going past instead of rush with marshall lynching the superman you're not

good at this game you're just you're just you're just mad i just individual mistakes i can defend

all of those when you meant really you can defend that one i well i can i can defend look it wouldn't

be a good defense it can be defended like you're trying to surprise them with a pass even though you

have marshall lynch how do you defend this roi belamy bad at this game you mentioned kershaw

kershaw didn't know famously did not know that the joggers had won the world series like he was

confused by at the end of that game he was confused game seven he did not know that they had won he

thought that uh... can you get me the details on this what he thought versus what it is that happened

because i'm saying that with kershaw he's old enough that that's just simple senility that is

cognitive decline he is that old he was going to be brought in the get kershaw was so spent by

the end of last season he might as well have been the statue that they're going to erect for him

he was warming up in the bullpen and he thought that a run head scored on a double play earlier in

the inning so as a result he's warming up the game ends and he's still warming up because he has

no idea that they just won the world series and they almost they were going to put him in the game

last night i'm telling you that i'm having a hard time roi is terrible at this game but i'm not

any better at it in that off the top of my head and please just look this up i'm sure

there there are many lists uh... everywhere most boneheaded decisions made by someone in sports

leadership all time because this won't be this won't be remembered that way because people don't

care about this the way that they care about their own teams but if this was something that happened

i don't know in the playoffs like in in like i don't i don't even know how it is you arrive

at the manager not knowing what the stakes of a game are when he's playing it like it is the

equivalent of somebody playing in a playoff game and thinking it's a regular season game like not

a manager not understanding that he's in the playoffs like chasing the regular season you're in

the wildcard you're in that last little play in game you're like no i think we're good and it was

like well wait hold we got one more game we got a plan it would be the the nine seed in the play

in game in the NBA in the play in going oh but if we lose this one we play again right it's like

ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife a fly in your shard name i uh don't think it's

that Jeremy because a nine seed isn't likely to win it all um Jeremy can tell you you can get

close and eight seed got there a nine seed isn't uh the americans overall uh so i misspoke

earlier and i said that mexico was favored against america when mexico is favored against italy

we just got the calculations wrong i misspoke uh can you guys tell me whether or not the americans are

or were favored at the start of this tournament was it the domestic where no no the americans were

not even even money it was us a dr japan and then venezuela and it's remained that case until now

well the other thing that's interesting about this is that this doesn't get to be the level of

historic boneheaded until the next game is played because if they actually get eliminated for this

do you retroactively get insanely mad in a historical stain for mark the rosa because you're

gonna associate his name with this particular mistake instead of his major league careers as like

i where and how does this stick uh i don't know that people care enough i i think the people around

team us a are going to know and remember to i think the average baseball fans like all that dummy

mark the rosa i don't think i how pumped was he to see bam get eighty three last night because i

you swap all the first take topics about bam with mark the rosa mark the rosa sit in there in

his hotel room yeah raiders way to go raiders way to do that and locally the wizards or the lizards

are just as pumped about the max crossby development it's just a whole bunch of people hold it

on me shields so next play on what it is that's going to happen here with crossby because uh as i

think a lot of people okay enjoy NFL free agency and i don't think in all of the transactions and

movement that there's been over the last ten days that there was anything bigger than max

crossby being traded to the ravens max crossby 28 years old in his prime a very good past

russia and the ravens doing something they never do which is trading future capital for today it's

just not the way they've ever run their organization philosophically but they thought this past russia

was so important and they thought their defense was so bad last year that they need to get the uh

you know MVP of the league or a someone who's been the MVP of the league help immediately they may

also feel like their clocks kind of ticking well because of that because of wherever it is that

look the ravens are behaving the way the rams are with staffer because they're like we've got to win

now and we think we're a piece away so they pivot off of max crossby who jerry jones was also

interested in and now they go to tray hendrickson which was the best available other option you have

to pay him and uh it it doesn't cost you paying him is different than costing you the kind of draft

capital that max crossby was going to cost you so it's just salary cap as opposed to future that

you're trading for him but the mechanics of what just happened why are the ravens more aggressively

in on past russia than anyone else in the sport when jerry jones also wants a past russia how was

jerry jones finishing second on both of these guys because i think now max crossby is indeed

damage goods right you can have happened to you with max crossby what just happened to the packers

with micha parsons it's a dangerous game you're trading for your last piece and then your last piece

gets injured and you're bleeped yeah i wish i could catch up to the the news cycle on this because

shepherds doing a lot of reporting on this around the league the ravens reputation has taken a

hit this yeah this is considered a bush league move i know these tests there isn't a standardized

physical across the NFL though it's based on a team satisfaction yeah it's a subjective thing and

there are a lot of teams that are taking issue with this right now and you don't think that the

the ravens in an NFL franchise have a million ways to go find further medical details on

knees on elbows on ankles whatever it is right and you have two firsts that are going out the door

and they're like man tray Hendrix and the numbers are probably about the same we don't have to

really do that let's rescind the trade and go sign him instead of giving away trash is bushly

is as one of the things that plays into this being considered as bush league is they made that trade

a few days ago the NFL free agency cycle just starting the rate that's the most interesting the

raiders had a bunch of money to spend that's the most interesting part is all these guys at the

raiders signed i don't think they could sign them anymore well here's one of the things that's

happened uh that i don't think people pay attention to because of the clerical stuff and the places

where honor in business is supposed to reside this is the danger of doing stuff before the NFL

calendar year has begun the only way that these things actually become official transactions

is when both people submit both teams submit all paperwork to the league offices you can get out of

anything before that it's just that nobody does that and to your point about doctors the doctor

can concoct any reason to make someone fail a physical he's coming off in these surgery he can't

play football right now he's going to fail at this point i would take a test at a doctor's office

that would make my body more functional for football than max crossbees body and a doctor can say

that the what the raiders did is just accused the ravens of dishonor but they win they win because now

they don't give up the draft things to get the same kind of player and all they had to do was give

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