Hour 1 - Mounting another strike on replay in sports after Michigan's win over the weekend

0:00It's Jeremy White. Deep drop, Underwood, five seconds left. Underwood is going to toss it toward the end zone into the crowd and out of bounds. Time expires if the attack from the Mac. So here in Ann Arbor, Michigan catches a break. On third down, Deep Drop going to unload it towards the end zone into the crowd. Canada's car. J.J. Buchanan, touch star of Miracle, Archmage, and Stadium. You're listening to Jeremy and Joe on Western New York Sports Giant WGR. Well, hello. Happy football season. Happy Tuesday. I went outside today or I've got dressed today and thought, man, it falls here. It might be pants season. I didn't wear pants, I'm wearing shorts on the shorts report.

1:01And then I heard the forecast before I actually got outside and got in the car. It's going to be 80. So if you walk outside early and think, oh, it's chill in the air. Make sure you're prepared to weather 80 degrees. So it'd be nice today. And that's nice. Jeremy and Joe, Joe's out again this week. I'm sold today with Owen Parker, Joe Cali, both here as well. Sal coming up at seven. It's a bills game week. And that also means we can have Austin Corvette on the show. He joins us at 830. Bill's guard Austin Corvette will talk to him every week during the season. Get a chance to know him, talk football, talk prep for the upcoming game, talk about what happened. That's going to be on Tuesdays and football season. So happy to have him with us at 830 today. Meanwhile, millions of things to get to over the weekend, including that Michigan game. Were you gentlemen watching it? I watched the end of it. So I saw that in real time. I caught a bit of that end of it too. So I was there for the importance of it. I don't need you to know if you saw the second quarter, the end of it.

2:02Because I feel like the entire beginning of it was horrible. It was not a good game. Yeah. The end of it. I mean what? What? I've been thinking about it since it happened pretty much the entire time. Yeah. It was, of course, if you didn't see it live, you must have caught up on it by now. You should have caught up on it by now. That the officials in Michigan and the big 10 found a super secret clock that they could invent and add a second to. And if Western Michigan doesn't give up a Hail Mary, then it's just a funny little anecdote that they had to defend it twice. But yeah. And then hold on a second for you conspiracy theorists out there. You're telling me on the same weekend that we found out of a additional secret clock that officials run that there was a prime time stand alone game that was delayed in such a way that they could just run it off of the individual clock.

3:02The officials keep that happened two days later, two days later, the NCAA went so deep on this conspiracy that no, it would need the clock. We got our officials clock. We're going to run that one. We all are so trusting of you right now. Yes, right. Thank you so much. The same weekend. Oh, make sure we get our stories straight. Why don't we kill the lights at SMU floor to state and have them go on the officials clock. That'll do it. Yeah. Let everybody know that officials have been keeping time. Power outage wasn't real. It was just an inside job. It had to be. It had to be. You're telling me the power came back for some lights, but not for the jumbo tron. Some lights, but not the communication between the coach and the quarterback. Hey, listen, we've got lights in the bathrooms, but the coach can't talk to the middle linebacker. Okay. Yeah, yeah. That sounds good. That's how lights all come back on. I'm quite sure. The officials, their batteries work, I suppose, on the official clock kept on only battery by one official. Is it in the building? Is it main framed in? I don't know. That's a word. I'm over here trying to build a conspiracy theory because it's a little more fun to do it.

4:05But, man, so much to get to. I have a lot of that stuff to get to. Of course, the bill season starts. The Patriots and the Seahawks play tomorrow. And the Patriots have extended Christian Gonzalez. So that deal finally got done. Very normal to get a deal done the day before your season begins. All right. That's fine. Patriots do that. I read that it's their first first round pick extension since 2012. Oh, wow. They have not extended a first round pick since 2012. That seems crazy. Oh, leave them. Seams impossible. Yeah. Seams impossible. Yep. But that's right. So. Wow. I'm blown away. Model franchise. They do everything right. Model, you're right. You got a draft? Well, I don't even remember them trading that many of them that it should be that long. They just haven't really haven't drafted that well. Yeah, they just aren't that good at that. So it's our coast. So that's in there as well. I feel like we do have updates on the Connor Hellerbuck story from the insider standpoint. We're getting more things to come out, more suggestions to come out.

5:08I wonder if it could be this kind of deal, which tells me that that thing might be moving forward. See about that. On Tuesdays, we do our legend of the game trivia, which gives you a chance to win a $50 gift card to the BFL store. So that'd be a fun thing to win. Keep listening. We have a trivia question about a former bill's legend of the game. And if you get a right, you win that $50 gift card to the BFL store. That's not quite everything I've got on the menu for you today. I've got, I went to a Columbus crew game. Let me tell you about that. Yes. Let me tell you about that. Cars celebrated. It's 20 year anniversary. I've got a good take on that. And that's most of it. So I texted Owen this over the weekend. I forgot I ordered a bootleg Conor Hellebuk Sabers jersey a month ago. And I got this random charge because it's just from one of those Chinese websites. And I looked and I'm like, okay, I have a 40th anniversary Sabers Hellebuk jersey on the way. This is going to be nuts. So I'm hoping, I'm hoping you're talking about that deal potentially moving forward.

6:10Hoping that could happen. How much did you spend on that? $65. Wow. $65. Yeah. Chipping was mostly of that $65. Oh, okay. What was it? $20. $28. Okay. It feels like $28. That's a solid gamble. That's a solid gamble. I'm okay with that. 40th anniversary, huh? Yeah. Speaking of which, I've got a slug mug today. Nice. Hashtag slug mug. Nice. I feel like the slug mug is going to be a staple in here. Yeah, that's a good one. Sabers slug mug. I got a lot of time for slug mug. Slug mug. Hashtag slug mug. All right. Anyway, if you're joining us on the YouTube stream, welcome in. It is a game week. The NFL season is upon us. And we'll talk about it with you. We'll get ready for the bills and the Texans. We've got a sideline reported John Harris tomorrow. Want to sales buddies. He has a mind every year. So we'll talk about the Texans coming up tomorrow. But where to begin? Let's start with the Michigan thing. All right. Just one thing I'd like to know, our phone number 803-0550.

7:10You out there listening today in the dark, driving to work, getting ready, getting dressed. Have you joined me yet? Have you come around that replay must die entirely for all of us to live? Has that, have you gotten there yet? Are you ready? It feels like the only possible place you could be after this. It has to go. It has to go. It has to die. The rules analysts have to go. We need to reclaim things that we watch. We need to have them back if we can have a secondary fake clock that a conference can invent and say, no, no, no, everybody on earth is watching this clock. But it turns out the real clock had one more second on it. Is that what pushed you there? What got you there? And are you with me yet? Because no solution is good.

8:11Nothing works. Number of challenges. Well, they should do this. You should be penalized if you challenge and get it wrong. You should have two challenges. We should we should we should go ahead and review every single thing. Replay has to die. It has to go away forever. I'm not optimistic that it will, especially with gambling being such a big part of it. And people being so fearful of some official being on the take. So that's a hard part of it is how it actually does go away. Have you had enough joy sucked out of your life by this scourge that's on sports yet? Has it happened? Are you there? We love to joke in here. I love to joke about Jean Stereitor who's sitting here looking at me in the cardboard cut out every single morning. Who were about to get back into Jean Stereitor season and Terry McColley season. And of course, that play, who was it? Was it Terry McColley? Because it's an NBC game. The mission game. Okay. Hey, Terry, tell us about this additional second that they found.

9:13Oh, what? The first he said they must have ruled that the player touched the ball because he stepped out of bounds and jumped up and touched it in a Hail Mary, which would make that a dead ball with one second left. All right. Great. Sounds great. Sounds going incredible interpretation. Too bad the video did not show that. Here's a rules official telling you a thing that he didn't see making something up. That's what they ruled, guys. They ruled that the player was out of bounds who jumped up in the air and touched it. Oh, great. My eyes work. I can see this game. That didn't happen either. Why are you here? Why is any of this in place to ruin sports? Why is the offside challenge here to ruin sports? Every single thing they give us from replay, every advancement. If nothing else, I hope that this last one with Michigan can get us to a place where this illusion that if we have transparency will be happier. That's the biggest lie you've ever heard in your life. It does not help you get any better.

10:13You don't get any different outcomes. All you get is the bumbling fools that want to make this call incorrectly. You hear how they do it. It's like watching some sort of impractical jokers show. It's watching some expose on, I don't know, I don't know where I'm going to expose it. Some television show where you get behind the scenes to see people get to a bad decision. That's what replays become. And everybody seems to think that one more step makes it a little bit better. What if we just instead, what if instead we had the officials just tell us what they were seeing? Just tell us why they're making this bad call. That I could trust it. No, you can't. And Michigan and Western Michigan proved that there will be no peace for anyone supporting replay and there will be no peace for any of us. Imagine that Western Michigan and Michigan is not the first game of the year where any team can recover from anything. I mean, Western Michigan, you nearly had a, whatever, a program defining win. Instead you have a moment where the entire world realizes that replay is a scourge and

11:16ruins all of it. You don't get better outcomes. You don't get more accurate results. What you get is stoppages, bigger controversies, more questions of impropriety, more questions of fixes because of what happened. How could the big 10 possibly possibly have us believe that there's just a clock that six people see and no one sees the real clock. Why not have that be the scoreboard? Just put a scoreboard up there with some random score and tell us after the game, actually the team that won the officials kept the different score than the score that everyone else out there saw. How about down in distance? The officials said that the markers said third and ten, but actually they had it a second and ten. Oh, okay, they keep their own and we don't get to see what the actual down in distance is or the time on the clock. It's nuts that it's gone this far. And then we're all sitting here held hostage by instant replay, held hostage by your, is it Ross Jackson in it?

12:16Ross, who's the, who's the NHL guy? Not Ross Dave, Dave, Dave Jackson, yes. Hell, Dave, Ross Jackson is held hostage, I say, by this Dave Jackson character who I don't know whose name is Nyland as Dave. It is all horrifically bad and it needs to go and it only gets worse and I'm sure we have yet to see the worst example yet. The worst example of no replay, you might have a hundred of those in your life that you're thinking about a call that got missed that didn't get reviewed. Maybe it's the Rams and the Saints passing her appearance, which led us to review penalties for a year. It lasted one year and they said that was awful. Let's get rid of it. So we are not that far. I wonder if this is the year it happens. An NFL team, a Super Bowl gets decided on a replay that is clearly wrong. Like this one in Western Michigan and Michigan, clearly wrong. And they'll just say, well, the officials have deemed this.

13:18Therefore the Lombardi trophy goes to Cincinnati. Sorry. Sorry, everybody that watched it happen. We've made an official ruling because the officials on the field have a different scoreboard, have a different, whatever it might be. All right. There's my two cents on it. Has anybody joined me? Has anybody come to this place? You used to support it and now you realize it is ruining everything. It feels like that sentiment has been growing. And last, I think that that game put a lot of people into this place. You're describing it. I saw everyone's favorite Nick Wright ranting on it, which is one of those. The worst person you know just made a good point moments. Right. But Nick Wright's all over it. It replay has to go. It's just, you know, somebody in chat, like you were forgetting about the pain of a horrible call and like I would a hundred times out of a hundred rather have that than what happened in Western Michigan. Forgetting about the pain of a horrible call that treating it like that is to suggest that those don't happen anymore. Right.

14:18And they still do just happen. What's the game? Yeah. It's deciding to stop whatever to go on a diet and having nothing change. Right. Like why am I doing this? I'm not at all protein diet, but I'm also doing carbs. That's essentially what this is. It's just what's the point? And it's and yeah, and the mistakes feel so much more unbelievable and frustrating because the system is in place to stop them from occurring. And yet they happen and this stuff goes down. We've got all this pain. We've got seven minute reviews to get it wrong still. And then it just makes no sense. Just have the guy on the call feel call it. If he gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. That's the way it goes because we're adding all this in and we're still getting it wrong. Quit it. Right. Not worth it. These rules analysts too, they double down. If they look at it and it's not something that they know what they're talking about or anything like that, they'll just really double down on what the referee on the field called because

15:21they want to they don't want to go against that. Yeah. So it's just this cycle of fraternity. Yeah. If I had a, it might be a tough pick for me. If I had to pick which of the two went if it was rules analysts or just replay. It's a tough call for me because again, the rules analyst, what does that person do? That person either agrees with the call and then when it's wrong, it's like, well, what are you here for or disagrees with the call when it's obviously wrong and it's what are you here for? What am I learning? Last night in that SMU Florida State game when the power went out and it was going to be no replays, no nothing, no jumbo tron. I think, oh, great. Look at this. I'm going to get a game where there are no reviews and what do they do on the broadcast 30 seconds later went to the rules analyst to talk about what it would be like to not ever replay. How the official is going to do this? Are the same way they do it all the time, which is just watch the game and throw a flag. What do the officials need for technology? I see a hold. I throw a flag. I walk the center field. I have a hand signal. I have a, oh, there's no microphone for the official.

16:22We never needed it anyway. That's what they have hand signals for holding that side. Ten yards. The entire sports world turned itself over to the officials and the rules analysts and the replay system. And never mind, every league has its own system of challenges this and challenges that poor Western Michigan. Oh, could you, it was, I can't believe it. Being on that poor poor Western Michigan, Michigan fans storm the field for that one. Listen, the good news if you are someone that hates Michigan, you still did get that. You do get to forever make fun of them for storming the field for beating Western Michigan. I know it's a last minute. I don't know how to handle Mary, but you do get that which that's kind of nice. Did you guys stay long enough to watch the head coach, the Michigan head coach interview on the field afterwards? I think I'm rage quit. No. I'm winning him. It might have been the greatest on field interview ever because after the game, you know,

17:27whatever the reporter is, she goes over to ask him and you can tell his mood is clearly the, that's pretty bad. Oh, yeah, he was not into it storming the field. He basically said, yeah, um, he stammered to the first answer. And then the second was, what did you learn about your team today? And he said, he stared right at our flat and goes, there we got a lot of work to do. Oh man. Good for him for being that. He was, he could feel his embarrassment coming out of him. Yeah. They were storming the field having won against Western Michigan after giving a free extra play. I wonder if you asked him in an honest moment, whether he would have rather that didn't happen if he would tell you I would rather that didn't happen. It's a great question. Um, you know, he got hired this year. If he had started his 10 year with a loss to Western Michigan, right, they'd have fired him the next, oh, the fans would have had him fired within 10 minutes. Yeah. This though now becomes all season long following them as like a, they're fraudulent.

18:31They're whatever. And it's going to just, I think that that you can get over like, all right, first game, horrible loss, unacceptable. But we can move on and try and have a season. This now feels like it might just define their season. Yeah. Like this just might be it is that because the, the coreback look, oh, it looked like it looked like I'm terrible. And what are you going to be now? Yeah, except this. I think this defines them now. I know it's week one, but I know I just don't see this story terrible, getting shaken. No, 803 05 50 is our phone number and one 88, not a number anymore. I'm no making progress. The fans have been in sufferable for Michigan, by the way, Michigan, by the way, too, they're saying how can a Michigan fan be in sufferable after that? How would you not just like go into a cave and wait six days for the next game? It's a great question, but they're talking about how the quarterback look good. They get, you know, a comeback of he didn't look great. And then they're like, well, he did on that Hail Mary. Oh, yeah, he just wins, right? I'm sure he just wins. That's how this works. Rageee and McCarthy story. Yes.

19:31This guy gets it done. Yeah. He hands the ball off 80 times. Come on. Yes. Truly terrible. It's done. Truly terrible. Anyway, 803 05 50. They're going to add hundreds of seconds to the clock. Well, that's, that is a conversation we have had on the show before because they do that with the play clock. Mm-hmm. Oh, the one went to zero and then you look at your watch and then you look up or something. Some rules analyst 20 years ago decided to say that and everyone decided, I think that makes sense. Yeah, when it hits zero, that's not yet zero. Oh, right. Okay. When does zero actually get hit? Oh, there's an undetermined time when it actually hits zero. When the ref feels like it. It's relative to who's counting. That said, you don't ever have these controversies in the Premier League or any sort of soccer when the clock is defined as like whenever the official kind of feels like it. He basically will say like, I'll give you one more run. You know what? You got the ball. Go ahead and attack. You got like 12 seconds to get up there and attack. I could have used one quicker whistle in the man you gave this weekend.

20:32I saw they scored what the 95th. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, nice. Yeah, that was tough. That was tough. There's something to say for that. The looseness of the end of a game. You probably couldn't do that in football. Probably not. Anyway, who's ready for the bills to get robbed in Houston on a review? Oh, no. Who's ready? Just prepare yourself. I know. I can't even think about it. I watched the divisional game yesterday because it was on replay before the college football game. Interesting thought. The one where they lose to Dishon Watson. No, this was the brain. It cooks the visual game from last season. Oh, yeah. Sorry. I saw it myself through that. No. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, that makes more sense that that would be on replay. Right. Yeah, right. Really, you did that, huh? I did. Hmm. Lots of looks for my family at our Labor Day picnic thing. What are you doing? Yeah, why are you watching this? But I had to. Couldn't look away. A lot of gene steroids were there. They were calling them Geno on the broadcast, by the way. Of course. Of course.

21:33I didn't realize that in real time. Geno, you got here. Big guy, what do you say? Thanks, Geno. Let's go to our man in the hour. Yeah, thanks, Geno. It's almost back all the way. Tomorrow, the Patriots and the Seahawks, the Patriots have signed Christian Gonzalez to a four year $135 million deal. He's now the top paid corner and football. They waited a long time and gave him big money, which is usually how that goes. So good for them. They will certainly need him against Seattle and going forward to have a top corner like him is pretty important. And it dragged on long enough and he got a deal. So Patriots and Seahawks tomorrow. And then we're off to the run for a football season. Kyle Shanahan and the Niners are in Australia and he gave a hilarious answer about their preparation. We'll play that for you at some point. And then off to the regular season. Bills and Texans, 1 o'clock on Sunday. What's the vibe for this game, everybody? What do you feel? It's a game week, right?

22:33It's a game week. We're going to talk with Sal at seven Austin Corbett at 830. What's your vibe? Just get out alive. Expecting a win. It's tough to expect a win against Houston because it is a team that as much as any other has their number if you could use that multiple seasons, multiple starting quarterbacks, multiple times they have beaten the bills. And in the process made their offense look silly, right? If we go back through these games, the bills offense has looked silly after the games. We come back here and say, what on earth are they doing? In fact, Josh Allen shouting into the telephone or just looking at the iPad on the sideline, the Microsoft Surface Pad saying, what are we doing and throwing it? That was last year. Houston brings that out of the bills offense, which means it's a pretty big test. So we'll dig into that. We'll talk with Sal coming up at seven. Get your phone calls as well.

23:34And off we are to an NFL season. Full of review, I'm sure. But hopefully some fun along the way as well. Jeremy and Joe, Joe's out this week. Nate's going to join me later in the week. We're going to keep getting ready for this football season and the season opener tomorrow. Join us on WGR. I certainly won that I'll never forget. I mean, it was just a dream, just dramatic and an ending as you could possibly have. Nobody, as I said, after the game, nobody's in the locker room hooting and hollering celebrating because we know we didn't play very well. Now, I don't want to negate or downplay Western Michigan. They're a good football team. I would guess they're the favorites to win the Mac and so forth, but still, no excuse for how we play. We get to play better. How long did you play Donbass in the season? Oh, geez. Five in the morning. Yeah, I don't know what to say. While winning him had coach of the Michigan Wolverines after their dramatic win.

24:39Jeremy and Joe, Joe's out this week again. It is the start of the NFL season and we're getting you ready for it. Can announce a couple things, by the way, Owen Parker, Joe Kelly here as well. Let me pull this this full list up because I do have something to tell everyone about that maybe you know, maybe you don't know. I don't think you do. It is what our lineup is going to look like. Our football lineup during Bill's games. You heard Joe mentioned we've got pregame just as we usually would. Me and Joe and Nate rotate and some pregame ideas. Pregame starts same normal time. Take your Reptile game time, but on Mondays. So Mondays this football season, we will rotate here in the morning between as a guest DJ Moore and Conor McGovern. So day after game, DJ Moore Conor McGovern rotating weeks, alternate weeks. Very excited. The wide receiver train has reached the station at the point where our wide receiver is on this on the show after Sunday games. It'll be Monday and again, the day of the week might move a little bit just based on is

25:42the game of Thursday on Monday. A Friday of you know, but DJ Moore and Conor McGovern Austin Corbett joins us on Tuesdays. So does Mike Florio will be with us on Tuesdays on Fridays. You'll have on the afternoon show. They've got Aaron Williams on Fridays. They're also going to have Dion Dawkins and Ross Tucker regularly. So you'll hear from some high profile bills, players and experts throughout along the way. So very excited to announce some of our player shows and player lineup again, DJ Moore and Conor McGovern. A couple of well, one bills newcomer and one bills veteran, but at positions that you know, will have a lot to ask about. If after this Houston game, it's either going to be depending on who goes first. It's going to be what was it like running up against Derek Stingley or how about that defensive line of the of the Texans bills Texans Sunday, one o'clock in our pregame will be just you know, like you always hear it. So yeah, excited for that. Our Buffalo football Mondays will be packed with our coverage and your calls and you know,

26:43we do what we do 8030 550 open the show talking about the replay situation in Michigan between Michigan and Western Michigan because it's a personal cause for me to eliminate all replay in all of its forms from all of sports to deliver it back to us. I've got a let's get stupid on that a little bit later, but on bills Texans, sales coming up at seven o'clock on bills Texans. What's the what's the expectation here? Because Joe Brady's first game, I would struggle to think of a tougher test and that doesn't mean they're not going to win. I don't know what's going to happen. None of us do. They are favored to win the game and your belief in CJ Stroud, my guess would not be very high. Last time he saw him play, it was against the Patriots and the playoffs and he was a disaster. Now are the Texans any better offensively than they were? I'm not convinced. How many points win this game?

27:4423. Now the bills get to 23. Would you feel pretty good? The tough part is that it's strength on strength and that's bill strength offense, right? Against the Texans strength that is defense and that it's week one. Who does that favor? Who's that more likely to help that it's the week one? The bills are the Texans. You can probably spin it anywhere you want. I do think it is probably good for the bills because they will have their wrinkles offensively and Houston defensively is known to just pretty much line up and play. If the one spot on the field where I've got strength on strength, bills offense against against Texans defense, I've got Houston's defense which tends to be very, I mean, maybe I'm oversimplifying it, but everybody that you read about the NFL defenses, the Texans are very basic. They're just so unbelievably talented and fast and nasty that they're going to line up and they're going to smoke you. The bills under Sean McDermott were said to be often said to be a defense that you know

28:47what they're going to do. They just are able to do it better than you and for most of the time, maybe not the playoffs, but most of the time McDermott defenses could line up and just beat you and that is Houston with the monstars all over the field defensive and defensive tackle corners linebackers like they don't have a weakness on that defense. There's very few ways to beat them, but Josh Allen's probably one of the ways to beat them and that it's week one. I'm ready to get back on something from way back when when Joe Brady took the job with the bills and became the offensive coordinate replacing Kendorcy. They go in house for that higher. They go in house again to elevate him to head coach. So he's come up from, you know, assistant to Dorsey to the offensive coordinator and out of the head coach. In his first game, he gets a chance to show the world, show the league that he's got the goods, right? That he's got the ability to not only call plays, which he's done, but keep a defense like Houston off balance or have answers, whether he does, we'll find out, but I do think it

29:53should help Brady to have weeks and weeks and months and months really the day he gets the job. He has to wait until May. May's when the schedule comes out. Yeah, mid May. He's known the defense. He's going to go up against four months and when do you start game planning? Do you start game planning on Monday, the week of or is it a little bit here a little bit there? I know what I wanted to do last time that we couldn't do. Maybe the receiver core is better. Maybe they feel more faith in James Cook this time, whatever it might be. There are there are slight differences this time than the last couple times. If you go back to the last two times, the bills have played the Texans inside the season. I mentioned it in the first segment. The Texans have not only beaten the bills, but they've made them look silly. They've made them look foolish offensively. Two years ago is the gaming Houston where the bills get the ball backed up in their own end zone pretty much and Josh is throwing down the field looking for Mac Hollins.

30:54They go three and out and Houston wins the game in regulation, which was pin down McDermott. McDermott asked why are we throwing the ball? Alan might have checked to a pass, two years ago, but they looked silly in that game. They had no answers. Ke'an Coleman had a catch and run touchdown on that game. Other than that, one big broken play, it was a struggle. Then there's last year. Last year, if not for a kick return touchdown from Ray Davis, do they put up single digits? It was tough. It was tough sledding. They looked bad again. They're running mesh all the time. Alan is getting thrown around. He's getting beaten badly. The Texans game was everything wrong with the bills offense last season, whether that's the line men were hurt because both Dawkins and Spencer Brown were playing injured. That's tough. Okay, you get to go unhealthy. Again, why is it an advantage for the bills week one? Healthy. Feel good about the offensive line. You're missing David Edwards, Hallock Anderson, and said, okay, I got one change. Then at the receiver position, I've got more pieces healthy.

31:56They played Houston without Shakira a couple of years back. Full receiving core available, full offensive, full playbook ready, and they haven't seen anything. Houston hasn't seen much. I don't think it's an easy game by any stretch. In strength on strength, I do have the time to prepare and the time to find if there's any way I can get through that defense. I like that for the bills offense defensively. You could say the same thing for the for the Texans. They, however, don't know what the bills do on defense. They kind of know what a gym Leonard defense might want to do. Demiko Ryan spoke about this week and had nice things to say about the bills and how big of a test it is for them. It's football season. Coach is always talking up the opposing team. The difference is probably that in this case, it's legit, right? He would have some respect for Jim Leonard as a player. They both played in the league as a coach. He would know that if Houston's defense wasn't the best last year, it was Denver's Houston,

32:59Denver, those two and Seattle, one, two, three were arguably the three best defenses in football. Houston's just got the reputation for being the nastiest because their past rush is just relentless. So I think it's a tough matchup. The bills can certainly win and I want to get back to when Joe Brady got the job. I started to say this, and I'll finish it. We would joke around is Joe Brady on the level of the Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVey, the witches. Is he one of these guys that just he's got it skamed up. He's got things to go. They were able to run hook and ladders successfully multiple times. That's not a small point to me because he was only busting out the hook and ladder plays in the most desperation desperation moments. It's a fourth and 12 and they're down by six. They worked every time and they lost all those games, but they didn't lose because of the hook and ladder. And the trick play, whether or not it comes to be a part of this offense, whether

34:01not the hook and ladder is a staple. If they rep it so much and feel good about it, will Brady really show us the artistic freedom, the creativity that he might have felt was not fully there on his own 803 05 50, not fully there when he was not on his own as the head coach. Now that he's on his own, will he feel like he's got more free and will say free activity and that's not a word, but it should be freedom and creativity. Bobby Niagara falls is up. Bobby, good morning. It's great free activity. It really should be a word, right free activity. Here's what I think, by the way, hi guys. So there was an old Broadway show called South Pacific and the words crack eye optimist was in that show and that show became a movie South Pacific. So I'm a cock eyeed optimist. I think this is going to be a new era for the bills against the Texans because as sad as I was to see Sean go, I didn't like it.

35:04Maybe it was a good thing. But I think now this could be a new era and I trust Joe Brady and that's my optimistic point of view, guys. Thanks Bobby. We'll find out there are a lot of new coaches and a lot of new play callers. Lamar Jackson has a new play call or two, right? Is Declan Doyle have the answers that Todd Monkin didn't? Does Joe Brady have the answers that I was like Joe Brady didn't have last year or the year before, possibly possibly the different approach. It's certainly a new era. And by the way, Sean McDermott's been making the rounds lately and what he had to say, we'll play for you a little bit later, but it's that he would be rooting for the bills to win and is picking the bills to go to the Super Bowl, which it's interesting. There's a little bit of a first off, I think I think McDermott is authentic in that thinking the bills are going to go to the Super Bowl. But the unspoken follow up question is like, would they go if you were here, right?

36:06You know, I'm necessarily asking that, but he's rooting for the bills, picking the bills, talked about when he got fired, how he went back to people in the organization and said, what more could I do? What did I do? Well, what did I need to do better? A very self-aware introspective guy that's looking to get a job again and be a head coach and be great at it. So I thought McDermott's message was kind of all class as he sits on the sidelines and watch. And that makes me think that as the season goes on, McDermott might be a great studio analyst for this season. Tomlin did it last year, right? And no, sorry, Tomlin's doing it this year. Tomlin's with CBS, I think it's CBS. I wonder who's Tomlin with. I believe he is with CBS. It doesn't even, it doesn't matter. But anyway, Tomlin out there is, hey, that's Mike Tomlin, but McDermott out there, NBC for Tomlin. NBC, thank you. Okay, NBC for Tomlin. McDermott out there, if they got him for a really important bills game, I mean,

37:11I'm not saying bills fans would necessarily want that. But McDermott would have the one degree of separation to Josh Allen. And you know how I feel about this? I feel like Allen is now about to be or already is the number one story in the NFL of the guy that needs to win more than Jackson Jackson. Sure he's got that too. But I think Allen paces him on that. Allen named the NFL's number one quarterback by executives and players and there seems to be more of a fight online if you go online about Allen and how he needs to win. And if McDermott is out there doing media rounds, they're going to ask him all the time about what do you make of his, his thought process in these big games? What do you make of his, his, his actual process is game mentality. I just feel like I can see McDermott being asked these questions a lot this week because the bills are far more relevant for that storyline than the Steelers are.

38:11I mean, asking Tomlin about the Steelers, like maybe that happens with McCarthy and Rodgers doing well, but McDermott's got a spot in the media. And I think he's kind of testing it out right now 8030 550 more your calls. Sal top of the hour here on WTR. Learned over the weekend that the dolphins had coach Jeff Hathley choose 10 pieces of gum per half. He's the new Pete Carroll. Just chomp and gum. I was just thinking who's the coach that I would always see. Pete Carroll, like a cow. It's Pete Carroll. Yeah. Pete Carroll gum. Jeff Hathley is the NFL's new gum chewing coach. I hope it sugar free. Yeah. You're going to have some problems. 10 pieces of gum. Wow. That was Sean Peyton too with juicy fruit, right? Oh, that might be right. I think he, in the home team film with Kevin James playing Sean Peyton, he was a big

39:12juicy fruit guy. That's my, that's my basis on that. That was the Saints movie. Yeah. You watched that? Yes, I did. Unfortunately, when that came out a couple of years ago. No one else has to. I'll say that. Yeah. I never considered it. You jumped on the record. I thought it was like a fantasy football punishment to watch that. Yeah. So it was forgettable. Yes. Yeah. Around the NFL, some other stuff is picking different captains for each game good or bad. Ever game different captains. You know who did that? Famously didn't Rex do that. Yeah. Rex Ryan, different captains each game. Is it good or bad? You have to decide and then I'll tell you who's doing it. I don't like it either. I don't like it either. You need consistency. Well, the Seahawks are doing it. And I love Mike McDonald. You know who else is doing it? The Browns. Okay. Bang, we're back. That's right. It's the perfect footballism of, is this good or bad? Well, the best team in the worst team are both doing it. So it's very ping pong table.

40:14Yeah. Narrative. I think that I think my take is going to be on that that Mike McDowell is a good enough coach to overcome his different captain about having different captains. We don't have that yet for the bills, right? No, I didn't. I haven't seen a captain enough. I've been seeing posts about him all today the day when this tomorrow, they're going to practice tomorrow before heading off to Houston. But team captains last year was just Josh and Tarell Bernard. Yeah. And they went from having as many as like seven or eight. The year that Gabe left and more slept, they lost all these captains and went just to Josh and Bernard and I wonder if they do that again. So is an interesting one with a new coach. Yeah. It's kind of a locker room vibe thing. And then you also wonder as soon as they, if they vote on it, if a coach does it, the players do it like if Bradley Chubb were to be a captain like, oh, wow, look, he's already gotten a lot of respect in the room, same with DJ Moore. So let's talk about that and other things coming up. Sal Capaccio, a game week. We get the scheduled down pat. Your life can get normalcy again.

41:15My day of the week clock, I'm not going to need it as much because now, you know, all the games are going to happen on Sundays and Mondays and Tuesdays and Wednesdays. We got to get you Kyle Shanahan's comment on time travel at some point as well. 803 05 50 Jeremy and Joe and WGR.