Hour 1: Should Darryn Peterson Be a Top 5 Draft Pick?

0:00Right now you can get your favorite pizza order at Domino's for under 10 bucks for a limited time Domino's best deal Ever is back and it's just in time for the tournament this deal is any pizza with any toppings for just 999 You choose the crust type the size you load on the toppings You can basically use this deal to make any pizza you want from New York style to handmade pan pizza to filly steak Pepparoni mushrooms jalapenos so when the tournament games are on whether it's your favorite pizza or pizza that's loaded enough to feed the whole watch party Get it for just 999 with Domino's best deal ever prices higher in some locations select this online only offer from February 23 to April 6 Size availability varies by crust type max seven toppings six for New York style and pan crust stuff crust is extra Excludes XL and specialty pizzas minimum purchase required for delivery prices participation delivery area and charges may vary Good morning happy Monday everyone welcome to first take shake or not here with you Stephen a in the building Well, I'm in the house with you shake. I did well. What up Jake? What's up, Shay? What up, I say what's going on?

1:00Oh, by the way before we start the show, you know, I don't know the kind of mood that I'm in Jay, you know It could be this show. It could be my radio show. It could be YouTube I just don't know what kind of move what will come out of my mouth this morning I'm going to be on the air for at least five live hours on top of that my YouTube show People have been talking smack particularly about me and I'm in the kind of mood where I want to exhale and check some sorry Best it's and I will be doing that today. I don't know whether it's going to do it in the next two hours I might do it. I might be in the mood of 30 minutes from now and hour from now two hours from now But I assure you Today at some point I'm going to deal with some some some some some sorry I said if you want to take a 60-second time out to display your feelings to the world I don't I don't because I'm not I'm letting it. I'm letting it for me and I'm letting it grow I just because I'm in the mood and a very very good mood to express myself So I just want to let's let's do the show

2:01But I just want everybody to know you just at any time this show turns left because something come out my mouth You know it's going to be that kind of party today all day all day I just want to say that Jay is good to see my brother. It's good to see bed. You're seeing you today. Okay. That's wrong We'll be ready for anything here on first take. We'll just put it that way kind of like they're ready for anything in New York They are partying like it's 1999 in New York City After St. John's knocked off Kansas over the weekend to punch their ticket to the sweet 16 for the first time in 27 years now they're dancing into the second weekend after a perfectly drawn up plates Dylan darling in the closing seconds There it is Patino post game about that play here. He was He is the amazing thing and the funniest thing I've ever been involved with So we're going to run a play and but they got fouls to give and Bells comes up to me and says run power which is a high back screen pick and roll So I walk away. I said, okay power walk away and said

3:02Wait a second. He hasn't scored a bucket and he wants to run a play for himself And then I'm thinking as I'm walking and I said, but he's bells And not only did he do it. He went with his right hand So real proud of him because to want the ball When you haven't made it a shot is unbelievable It is unbelievable and if you don't know why they call Dylan Darling Bells I'll let you google that. We'll talk about it later on Jay will I'm gonna go to you though now that we know St. John's is going to the sweet 16 Chance do you give the Johnny's to advance through the second weekend a K a final four beyond That's a you know, I'm well, you know every when I hear you talk about the nicks During the post season run. I see distressing your face and I see the turbulence the volatility Throughout the entire year the conversation. Where are they now? What's going on the Boston Celtics yet? I know how you feel. I know how you feel right now. I um, I

4:02I don't know how I feel about this game coming up. I'm nervous And I know it's my job to be objective. I know it's my job to tell you the truth I mean, I give St. John's a 50% chance of winning this whole thing. I do. I When they double a Jordan it Is that what you just said? You know, that's what I just said. I'm looking at all right Duke is a crazy game Can they beat Duke would you be surprised if St. John's beat Duke at this point? No No, all right, so Patrick Gamba down two starters. He comes back not sure he finds his win I think Duke is probably favorite, but they can win that game if they see Yukon or Michigan State they beat Yukon twice already. Yeah twice now. That would be a blood bath I would love to see that game if it were to happen Dan Hurley Rick Matino But they proven they could beat Yukon already So now you're talking about them being in the final four now look at what happened last night Florida lost to Iowa now. We're talking about Nebraska and Iowa, Illinois or Houston

5:07If they got to the final four if they met Houston if they met Illinois if they met Iowa and they met Nebraska They couldn't win that game they could win that game So now we're talking about them being in the championship game the road is carving out itself to be possible I never thought I'd be saying this. I mean the last team to win a championship to shoot under 34% from the three-point line Guess what that was. Stephen A Louisville 2013. Guess you coach that team. You know Rick patina That's all I'm saying to you man. The path is leading itself to itself. I never thought I would say it It is possible Jay, I feel you on that I get you and I've had trepidation Jay Jay about say John you understand I'm from Queens and from highlands. I went to Thomas Edison High School right across the street from the Grand Central Park St. John's University. I got nothing but love for them I grew up in the days where I was watching Chris Wolland would walk to Barry with Mark Jackson with Willie Glass Even Bill Wellington I remember the crew with Lucana second to coach listen. I go way back St. John's

6:12I looked at them and I said to myself damn it. They can't shoot they can't shoot and the sudden happened yesterday You know what that you know what that was Jay Bryce Hopkins No, no, Bryce Hopkins. I mean the brother only made twenty five threes this season in thirty five games But he had six and nine yesterday and Rick patino Knowing his team can't shoot worth a damn at least date back the last year because they shot four forty one Uh, they combined with Arkansas shoot four forty one from three point range in the in the NCAA tournament last year I looked at them and I said you know I'm just not feeling. I know they're tough I know they don't back down from anybody. I know that they defend because their defense is no joke they're exceptionally well-coached But call it a prisoner the moment Jay Williams. I'm gonna say it here on national television I got St. John's going to the final four They will beat Duke And then they will beat the winner of Yukon and Michigan state whether it's H to the is oh or it's dead early

7:17who I love And I got the storm In Queens, New York, Queens in the building. I got the storm going to the final four now then that wasn't my pick to the NCAA tournament That's not what I pick. That's not what I picked okay, but Duke's got some injuries and Yukon I know they kind of want them back. I get it But I'm just of the mindset right now watching cans and watching St. John survive the way that they did yesterday Watching them neutralize late in the first half Kansas went about seven minutes without feel go okay Even though they weren't about six minutes themselves. It was a struggle in the end I'm looking at St. John's and I'm like if anybody can shoot If anybody on this squad just has a good game shooting the basketball Dead defense and their toughness and their coaching Will carry them through? I'm going to roll with say John's going to the school. I say before here. Here's a differentiator for you. You ready? Even if they're shooting is not on par. It's not Bryce Hopkins has a good night

8:17You know what they do? They muck it up It's almost like you're looking at the Detroit pistons of college back 16 turnovers without the Kate cutting it yeah Course 60 turnovers just think muck it That's what I'm saying so they beat you in a deep instrument and I'm one last thing and I say I know you alluded to it at first Yo church bells give me that all day long All day long. I mean that that kid the darling of New York City He's a lefty for him to close out the game first off great strategy by bill self They had four files to give yeah, he kept winding down the clock This dude who's a lefty even though they close out. I don't know what Darren Peterson is looking out on the left side of the floor by the way But the fact that he drove Righty and finished it with his right hand in traffic After not dropping a bucket the way as the whole can it was come on with a great play that's special It was a great play by darling no doubt Especially when there was this first shot that he made he missed all four of his three-pointers some of them badly by the way All right, but props to him the flip side to it is if you're Kansas

9:22It ain't some three-point that lay launched it when you can't let some miniature dude drive to the hole and no help comes I mean no help from anywhere Kane it's the last seconds you can't let that happen But it was emblematic of what we've seen from Kansas on far too many occasions this season So the thing was saying johns. We don't have any real Cinderella's right left in this tournament right So saying johns now it feels like almost has become that because they haven't had a winning record in conference and like over a decade They've gone through a handful of coaches and here they are finding themselves in the sweet 16 for the first time since 1999 Let's go to the other side of this though. We talked about Darren Peterson here for a second The j-hawks go home now in the round of 32 Despite having possibly the top pick in the NBA draft and therapies and play 36 minutes He scored 21 points he had four boards four blocks We know the narrative that is surrounded Darren Peterson. Should he be a top five pick in the upcoming NBA draft hell no Hell no, I'm gonna say it loud and I'm gonna say it right and listen

10:23I'm not rooting against the kid the kid is electrifying He's got the skills Jay. He's a walking bucket. You see It's it's not ignore his stats even though last yes, they wasn't great five or 15 from the field But the point is this he's automatic 20 point. So imagine what he'd be on an NBA level but First of all availability was the first issue we talked about this You know him missing 11 games this year flu and cramps don't know what I ain't never heard I ain't gonna lie I ain't I ain't hear about that before flu and cramps Jay We usually with with the fellas when you on the basketball court they call it a hamstring with him They they specify cramps. Okay, that is not something we're accustomed to hearing Keeping a dude from playing basketball. It just does it all right. So that's number one number two Outside of the availability there have been times when he's been on the court like j-wheres just went out Jay Williams is sitting there giving darling props from St. John's giving Rick patino props

11:24I'm giving this cab rise to props. I'm we're seeing all of this right? So I'm gonna try right we're seeing all of this and Jay Instinctually like what is Darren Peterson doing on the left side of the court right there? In the last thing we find ourselves on too many occasions asking these kind of questions about him He's either unavailable Literally or figuratively speaking on the court in key moments He doesn't appear to be available and that is what is alarming when you're transitioning From 30 35 games on the collegiate level To being paid to have an obligation to show up 82 games a year Even though in this day and age we know that's not true, but but 65 plus games how about that right 60 plus games Plus the playoffs we're relying on you and I'm saying Respectfully that's what he has to overcome But there's nothing about his skill set that I have an issue with I think the brother is worth all the hype

12:27He's that in a bag of chips the brother special no doubt. He is not a scrub all right And I don't know I'm personally never met him never talked to him All I can go by is what I see and what I hear the experts covering the sport or yourself how you know Highlighting they're like yo, this is what it is and you can't get around that jay Williams It's a big thing when jay Williams is all remote right now and he is dissecting what is happening in the game And in a mist of his soliloquy he says what is there in Peterson doing right there That is consistently what we find ourselves doing when it comes to him that cannot be right there It cannot be and maybe he had his back turned it all that I get it because they could have kicked it out to the three And maybe you guarded against that I'm just saying Every single game We find ourselves asking What is he doing? That is not an investment that you can trust with the number one overall pick in the NBA draft

13:32And jay to kick it to you here like Seth Greenberg was on this show last we kind of said the same thing about Darren Peterson was like Watching him in person in the big tournament like not apologize to you both I was answering the question about him being the top overall pick not necessarily a top five so I apologize for that jay I'm not saying Okay, you can't pass up on the top He just wouldn't be number one overall for me. Okay, go ahead jay Thank you for the clarification because I was about to lose my mind right but I was oh I was gonna say I say because if the question on the screen is should he be the top five pixels? I appreciate the clarification yeah I If we're having a number one overall pick conversation. I'm gonna take a j debonza. I'm gonna take I'm starting to believe That I may take there is a cup now. I think a j is a better talent because of his size in his frame Kill Wilson's moon of the charts boozer's always gonna be in that conversation. I love the positional size of Kingston Flimmings I think I'm gonna say this about Darren Peterson. I've never questioned his talent

14:36I do believe though that he does love basketball I think there's a part of me that after doing more research steven a over the last month or so I think it's hard for young players and I'm not making excuses for him But I think it's hard for young players at times To do what they want to do when you listen to a lot of people Sometimes it may not steer you down the right path. We all know how we act when we're younger Right as opposed to when we're grown men and we can make decisions for ourselves So I do see when I talk to NBA scouts his positional size as a two the way he can catch and shoot work seamlessly within an offense He's not really playing with dudes that can actually create shots for themselves I see him being a special talent But as a number one overall pick I think there are two or three other players that I'm looking at now and considerably thinking Better of long term as it relates to being a number one pick than I am about Darren Peterson

15:37That's just how I feel about it. Can't pass up on him as a top five. He's too electrifying No, you got to go with him as a top five pick I'm not insane But the number one overall pick I'm with Jay. It's AJ DeBonza really quick because we do have to bump because we have a shorter show today Did his what he did in the tournament change your opinion at all? No, it's stay the same. He's just not playing in the NCAA term. We would have felt the same way There wasn't enough. It wasn't enough. What do you think did it change anything? So I'll say one last thing and I get it. He's a Hall of Fame coach I'm not sure the system that Kansas plays is the best system for Darren Peterson to play in He don't got the ball in his hands all day like there is a cuff. That's all I'll say Okay, we'll leave this here A lot more tournament talk though. Of course on the way here on first say I was upset over Florida Had it all but don't miss what Jay has to say about the game winning play by the Hawkeyes and maybe the miscues By Florida plus two more blue bloods where bounce from the tournament yesterday We more concerned about Kentucky, Kansas or North Carolina right now first take rolling along after this

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18:48Seattle of course just won the Super Bowl What is your reaction to them bringing back the offensive player of the year? Congratulations to JSN He deserves every penny and then some Ladies and gentlemen this brother was born on Valentine's Day In 2002 he's 24 years old 24 And he plays the way that he has played they let go of DK Metcalf They made him the star and what does he do? He goes from 100 receptions for 1130 yards last year To 1793 yards on 19 more receptions this year Clearly the best receiver in football last season He's 24 nothing but an upside and you don't just get paid for what you do You get paid for potential An organization that says they trust in you And when you think about the future of the Seattle Seahawks why would you not trust?

19:49Jackson Smith and Jigba He deserves every penny. I'm really really happy for him It's well deserved and it's after he delivered a Super Bowl championship There's nothing to be said here. He's earned every penny. He deserves it I didn't realize his birthday was on Valentine's Day The Super Bowl this coming year is on Valentine's Day Maybe he could celebrate it with another performance like this one All right, let's go back to the tournament here The nine seated Iowa Hawkeyes had the ball with less than five seconds to go And then Elvaro Fulgaris hit an uncontested three to seal the deal against Florida Making the gators the first one see to fall out of the tournament and find themselves sent home in the first weekend After winning it all just a year ago. Here's Todd Goldin on that final play Obviously on the last play We wanted to take a foul To prevent them from getting off a three and they got away from us We weren't able to take it and and they knocked it down so credit to them for that And just a tough way to go out Tough way for the SEC's best team to go out

20:51Jay was that more of a good play design from Iowa or bad defense from Florida It's the it's the latter Shay Well down my high school coach used to always say Dumb loses more games and smart wins And if you look at this last play, I mean, it's not it doesn't always come down to one play But in this particular situation if you're going to take a foul Why are you trailing boogie playing? Why is he trailing? Why would he be on top? And if anything you force I would have catch the ball going back towards their baseline You allow him to catch the ball trailing that play and turn that corner with the entire length of the floor for him to find a shooter in the perimeter This is why you love college basketball For as much as you want to applaud the great play design of Iowa You're sitting there as a Florida fan pulling your damn hair out if you add hair You know because you're like I don't understand If anything forced them to catch the ball back towards their baseline by the time you turn You're going to see me waiting for you Now I can turn you once or twice

21:53Games should be over that that's how the situation should play out But allowing them to turn with a full head of steam it was it was it was a bad bad defensive Execution down the stretch of Florida It's it's a debate show and we're supposed to disagree But but not when somebody is obviously stupid and that's what that's what Florida was on that defensive that last possession You can't let that happen You understand first of all understand over the last 10 games Iowa was three and seven all right You're talking about a team. They were sub 500. They were sub 50 in offensive and defensive efficiency Shoot 31% from three. Why do I bring that stuff up? If you're inefficient offensively and on top of it all you're not strong shooting the three Wouldn't it behoove you to make sure that there's a body in front of anybody with the ball because Contesting a shot. Contesting a dribble. Contesting a pry a pass and all probability it will work in your favor That is not what Florida the defending national champions at that moment

22:54Decided to do you know the play was supposed to go to this catch stirts and offensively Well, Gary's ultimately interrupted with the three procedures whether he say give me the ball I'm going to make the shot. I'll be ready a lot of confidence on his part say what you will about it But it was still a great shot in this part That's what the NCAA tournament is all about But you usually see better defense than that and for the national champions to commit that kind of faux pa Defensively at such a key moment It was very very disappointing to say the least coming out of that time how jay I was like and Stephen A I was like you don't need the three don't chase the three just get a good two If you're wide open take the three I'm like oh my god take the three wide open wide open and the last thing you supposed to be in the last few Seconds is wide open. That is not supposed to happen So now we got some of it when you don't have Walter Clayton on this year's team I sure guards not same team as last year Well again, that's why they have to but that's Florida. This is Iowa So my point is is that you know you you got to know better defensively if you had the offensive possession

23:55And your point guard didn't measure up to what Walter Clay, Julia was capable of doing for you last year That makes all the sense in the world But defensively you ain't supposed to have that kind of laps. No, no, that's unacceptable And look at me as a big 10 girly over here with our mid big 10 team just being the best team in the SEC No big deal coming up on first take Kentucky and Kansas Bounce from the tournament yesterday, but do you want to you don't want to miss the take jay will has on another blue blood We'll do that next plus the Lakers won't stop winning But are we ready to put them in the top tier of the western conference first take rose along after this Avoiding your unfinished home projects because you're not sure where to start Thumbtack knows homes so you don't have to don't know the difference between matte paint finish and satin or what that Clunking sound from your dryer is with thumbtack you don't have to be a home pro You just have to hire one you can hire top rated pros see price estimates and read reviews all on the thumbtack app

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27:05Against Santa Clara to even get there. Iowa stated four starters and double figures beat Kentucky without their second leading score And their top rebounder But it wasn't just Kentucky that struggled in the first weekend of the tournament other blue bloods Kansas North Carolina all failed to make it out of the first weekend And so there's a concern about these blue bloods But which one is the highest of concerning? Is it Kentucky, Kansas or North Carolina? Jay, what do you think? There's no question is North Carolina And I'm saying this growing up as a North Carolina fan like if North Carolina didn't have that logo I'm not sure we'd be talking about them as a blue blood over the last five years since COVID relevancy is currency And I can make a case that they're not a top five Current relevant team in college basketball right now, which is crazy when you think about this is a brand That some of the most elite elite of the elite have worn from Michael Jordan to Vince Carter to Jerry Stackhouse I mean the last time they had a top five pick was in 2005 now. They'll have won this year with Caleb Wilson

28:08But let me let me actually put together a list even I know you like your your A's lists Let me give you a list of my top five most relevant College basketball brands right now in the last five years since COVID number one you come back to back titles Dan Hurley a personality that extends and It kind of epitomizes what college basketball is Duke you can make a case. Hey number one recruiting class three out of John Shire's four years with another number one recruiting class last year back-to-back national players of the year at Cooper flag Cameron Booser this year Kansas. I mean you talk about conference dominance Bill self has won the conference tournament conference stuff regular season to the big 12 the best conference in America 13 years straight 13 years straight and by the way going to have a top three pick and Darren Peterson this year Houston. Oh, where does Houston come from? Well, Houston since they entered the big 12 in the last couple of years Have dominated multiple number one seeds and by the way a number two seed again this year in Houston

29:09Will they have a chance to compete for another final four and then Kentucky I'm just going to give Kentucky Kentucky praises for the fact it's big blue nation It's the largest social media platform outside of Duke to pay attention to in college basketball Mark Pope is struggling a little bit in gear two. They should have had a chance to get to the final for this year They underachieved but to me I can make a case that Florida is more relevant of a program than North Carolina right now I can make a case that Gonzaga is more relevant of a program than North Carolina right now I'm not saying historically in the last 100 years, but in the last five years Stephen A You're damn right. I'm going to make that case I'll come around to your point about North Carolina after I say this about Kentucky and Kansas Kentucky underachieved but it was primarily due to injuries. You got this cat quaintance and and low Who was supposed to be available to only played about three games together? I get that. That's what they said But go ahead Jay. Did I say something? What's up? I was going to say I say is jade and quaintance is a hell of a talent

30:11But he came into this season With an ACL issue. No, they gave him money. No, and he was injured So that's almost not right. That's what I'm saying is is that they ultimately were injured the issue with Kentucky is that You misspent because you spent about 22 million in and I L and so because of that you got to make sure This is a business now in college sports if you're going to dull out those dollars you got to make it count It can't be on babies. It can't be on cats that ain't available if you like if you paying them You had to make sure they're playing Okay, and that wasn't the case with Kentucky But the fact that they spent that much money in and I L and people were willing to come to Kentucky to play for Mark Pope I think that obviously like would that combine with what Jay said about their social media reach and whatever We can't just dismiss Kentucky. They can easily return Kansas is interesting Jay Because you didn't bring up Kansas. They haven't been To the sweet they've come up short of the sweet 16 for the fourth consecutive year This is what bill self coaching and now there's questions about whether or not bill self were returned

31:15Even from bill self because of his health now he has said that he wants to return He has said that he still has a passion to do this But he needs to sit down with his family and make sure that he's healthy enough to move forward That's not a good thing to hear that's not a good sign every time I look at it looks good to me But I mean the damage we don't know so if he's got questions about his health And how far he can go then that's a different matter altogether And so I understand it because who the hell's gonna replace him and what are they gonna do because they build self So what you gonna get to kids so I would tell you that Kansas is the huge question mark Jay Having said that I'm with you about North Carolina for a big to me a bigger reason than Jay even brought up Duke is eight miles down the road And Duke is right there You're talking about What can easily be conceived as the best rivalry in sports Duke North Carolina basketball, okay? and I'm I'm thinking about I can't say enough about Jon Shryer. I can't say enough about him. This guy has succeeded

32:18Mike Shchefsky and all we're waiting now we're waiting for the national championship from him He hasn't won a national championship. Do you realize that's all we can say Think about that who thought that when Mike Shchefsky departed and Jon Shryer's the new head coach for the Duke Blue Devils That we'll be saying okay with the championship, but that's all we could say I mean when you talk about this success during the regular season we're talking about this success during the conference tournament There's no drop-off This man has done a sensational job coaching Duke That cannot be said about human Davis now last year was worse But then he went out and got Caleb Wilson. So you got it all American Um, they got two comment for next season including this cat me going to K right here on first take to announce that he was going to the University of North Carolina To me the big concern with human Davis is not X's of nose. It's not its coaching acumen It's his recruiting Because you have to recruit against Duke

33:20If somebody is interested in talking to Duke that's supposed to be interested in talking to you It can't be Duke or nothing The fact that it's Duke or nothing and when we look at more key dudes They want to sit up there and go to Duke and ain't thinking about North Carolina That is a problem But there are people in North Carolina that are saying human Davis should stay Because he's got two all Americans coming in next year Okay, fine. I'm good with that. I don't want the man five cube is a good man And I think he's a good coach, but you got to be able to recruit against Duke that to me Jay is the number one criteria for anybody who wants to be the head coach of the North Carolina Tawheels and let me make some news out here and boy is he going to be mad at me for saying this But I don't give a damn because he's my brother. He's just going to have to get over it Me and Kenny Smith go back a long long long ways And Kenny Smith is phenomenal Winning awards with Barclay and Shaq and all of that stuff

34:22There are but this is not old news There are two jobs that I believe are tailor-made for Kenny Smith Years ago before Leon Rose arrived I was an advocate of Kenny Smith Kenny the jet smith Being the president of basketball operations for the New York mix Okay, just like I was an advocate of Mark Jackson being a head coach because of his his roots and queens and and St. John's and all of that I believe That if human Davis were to be gone It should be for one reason above all else That Kenny the jet smith is named the new head coach for the North Carolina Tawheels Because you can't convince me people don't notice about Kenny Smith They don't know how connected he is To youth basketball throughout this country his knowledge about the players We all know how brilliant his knowledge is about the game of basketball

35:25But on top of that His roots in North Carolina who he was The Kenny the jet smith out of archbishop moloid queens and don't tell me he wouldn't be able to recruit Kenny Smith walking to your living room. He could talk your son in the coming to North Carolina I'm telling that right now now he don't get mad at me because I'm not advocating for human Davis to be fired I know Kenny Smith don't want that. I know he want his mayor human to stay there and all of that stuff They got love for each other. That's what North Carolina is But I believe that the best option for the University of North Carolina Again, I'm hoping human Davis keeps his job But if I was running it And and I had a chance to get Kenny Smith That is the condition under which I would let him go because Kenny Smith coach in North Carolina basketball That would be special That would be special remember you heard it here first I say I don't disagree with you on Kenny I think you know, I agree look John Shire is about to have the fourth number one recruiting class

36:28In his five years. That's right. Like there's another number one recruiting class next to this kid Darryl Ripley is He's the truth. So I don't disagree I think one of the things happening down in North Carolina that they have to make a decision on Yes, do they want to stay in the family or do they want to go outside then that they're never going I'm told Rashid Rashid Wallace told me this years ago He said never think about North Carolina going outside of the family They ain't doing it. He sent that to me. Let me let me ask you some Let me ask you some If North Carolina can get Danny Hurley Would you go outside the family on Danny Hurley if you want to get Nate. Oh Over Alabama. Would you go outside the family? I think that style and tempo will be great to see and Carolina blue I feel you, but I'm telling you this right now Kenny Smith There's no way in my opinion That shy and I'm he's sensational. I really am impressed by the guy There's no way he has the top recruiting class in four of his five years at Duke

37:32If Kenny Smith is at North Carolina somebody coming to North Carolina If Kenny Smith is the head coach to somebody come I'm telling you they'll go back and forth you're not I'm ladies and gentlemen boy Kenny Smith's gonna be so mad at me for bringing because because he he he he don't want to do that I want this. I want this. I believe that Kenny Smith Kenny the jet Smith You put him in North Carolina The eyes of the basketball world would be on Duke North Carolina What back and forth back and forth back and forth Josh. I ain't I recruined Kenny Smith every year I promise you that I promise you that Jay I hear what you're saying and going in different direction But I don't know that Danny Hurley would leave you con for that job like I don't he didn't even want to do the leakers I don't like us giving all that money and more. He didn't want to go. I want to coach LeBron and in his last year The season where I'm no controllable system now. I'm not going to he should it be leaving you con for you and see You con as a big-time program to now you don't need to go to it off. I hear you but North Carolina that's cool man

38:36Stay in stores Don't get beat twice by patino in the same season Didn't with that different conversation That's a different conversation but if you're down early, you're considering. I love you con New you kind of ain't North Carolina essay To national championships Years until you wake up that bear hope you can wake up the bear please come on The family it feels like Kenny the Kenny the jet Smith might be the only option But if they say in the family, I think you've been Davis unless Kenny Smith wants to job. There you go Speaking of the Lakers coming up here on first take the Lakers got their ninth win in a row in dramatic fashion But are we ready to put them in the top tier of the Western conference? That's next plus Texas is now the only double digit seed remaining in the tournament Our deep Cinderella runs the thing in the past and is that actually a bad thing for college basketball that's next You

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