Hour 1 - Trust in Trump

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Clay Travis Bucksexton show the number one story remains.

What is going to happen in Iran and President Trump has sent very strong suggestions that

this is going to be winding down very, very soon.

And as a result, the stock market is surging today as Trump has said, look, the reality is the United

States is not particularly reliant on oil and gas arriving through the straight of

Hormuz.

And as a result, it is not the responsibility of the United States to be the world's

policeman as it pertains to oil and gas being able to come through.

Really morning press conference from Pete Hegseth, basically letting it be known that

there are still a lot of different options.

And I thought most interestingly Buck saying actually regime regime change did occur.

Now we still don't officially at least publicly know who is going to be running things

from Iran.

But Pete Hegseth this morning in a press conference from the Pentagon said,

regime change has happened and then if Iran is not willing to make a deal,

we'll continue to rain down holy hell upon them.

This is what that sounded like cut five.

If Iran is wise, they will cut a deal.

President Trump doesn't bluff and he does not back down.

You can ask Khmerney about that.

The new Iranian regime should know that by now.

This new regime because regime change has occurred should be wiser than the last.

President Trump will make a deal he is willing.

And the terms of the deal are known to them.

If Iran is not willing, then the United States War Department will continue with even more intensity.

So that was Pete Hegseth point one.

The other one is President Trump made it quite explicit as Pete Hegseth said in a choreographed truth

posting this morning.

Listen to Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War, analyze what President Trump said cut six.

Pete The President was clear this morning is truth that there are countries around the world who ought to be prepared to step up on this critical water way as well.

It's not just the United States Navy.

Last time I checked there was supposed to be a big bad Royal Navy that could be prepared to do things like that as well.

So he's pointing out this is an international water way that we use less than most.

In fact, dramatically less than most.

So the world ought to pay attention to be prepared to stand up.

President Trump's been willing to do the heavy lifting on behalf of the free world.

To address this threat of Iran, it's not just our problem set going forward.

Even though we have done the lion's share of preparation to ensure that that strike will be we'll be open, which is an outcome that the president is very clear on.

Okay, Buck.

My biggest takeaway here as I analyze everything about what the president and what Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War said, is it feels to me like Trump is looking for a way to kind of deliver a coup d'egra of sorts and just say we're out.

A drop the mic moment that he proclaims as victory and is able to step out.

And then in theory, gas prices return to normal.

See the stock market as you are seeing today is buying into that idea is it is surging very much.

Is that your analysis of where we are?

How would you analyze the latest statements on Iran from the president and Pete Hegseth?

Well, first up, here is his truth that he put out.

It is called the truth, not a tweet technically.

All of those countries that can't get jet fuel because of the straight of war moves like the United Kingdom, which refused to get involved into the capitation of Iran.

I have a suggestion for you.

Number one, buy from the US.

We have plenty.

And number two, build up some delayed courage, go to the straight and just take it all caps.

You'll have to start learning how to fight for yourself.

The USA won't be there to help you anymore just like you weren't there for us.

Iran has been essentially decimated.

The hard part is done.

Get, go get your own oil.

President Donald J. Trump.

No, thank you for your attention in this matter.

So I guess he's just had enough of people expecting him to always thank them for the attention.

Clay, Trump wants the straight open and I think to move on from this as soon as possible.

So if the straight opens up, if there's some agreement with Iran that allows the administration to say, you know what?

We're able to now stop the continuous airstrikes.

They'll take that off ramp, I think very quickly.

Yeah.

Yeah, go ahead.

So I think that builds in to me, what is being sought here is an opportunity that feels significant.

That President Trump can take as the climatic action that demonstrates this entire operation is over.

And I think the way the stock market is reacting today is that that is sooner rather than later.

You said you thought April 1.

We're sitting here at March 31st.

I think I said by middle of middle of April at the latest.

So we're very much in agreement in general with the timing here.

And it feels to me like that this is Trump signifying to everybody, hey, most of this work is done.

I also think Buck, it factors in a bit for this possibility.

Israel may not be done.

And it may be the case that we begin to step back from the perspective of the United States military action.

And that as a result, Israel is in many ways operating on their own timeline, which might be a bit different than ours.

That would be, I think that would be a big problem because if we, if Iran doesn't create a choke point at the straight by threat.

If Iran basically says we agree, we will not hit any oil tankers in the straight or any ships at all for that matter.

And then Israel continues airstrikes.

I think Iran is going to say, hold on a second.

This is our leverage.

So I think, I think the Israelis have to cut it if we cut it as well.

They can't continue on with the campaign.

Unless they want to be in a position where essentially the United States will have a ceasefire of sorts.

And the Israelis will continue the conflict.

I think that's a very tough look for the Israelis.

If that were to, if that were to go down that pathway.

So in the meantime, we're hoping that they end this thing as quickly as possible.

And the gas price is normalized and all these things allow us to move on.

Any secretary of war, Hegseth has been very clear that he thinks we are close to this being done.

And in terms of the boots on the ground situation, we didn't play eight yet.

Did we click?

I think this is important.

We are not.

Here he is talking about boots on the ground and how this is about options and getting to the desired outcome.

It's not telegraphing or making promises in advance of a negotiation with the enemy.

Play eight.

As far as President Trump and boots on the ground, I don't understand why the base,

which they have already, they understand, wouldn't have faith in his ability to execute on this.

Look at his track record for suing peace through strength, America first outcomes.

And what he's simply saying, and it's exactly true, and I've said from this podium too,

we're not going to foreclose any option.

You can't fight and win a war if you tell your adversary what you are willing to do or what you are not willing to do to include boots on the ground.

Our adversary right now thinks there are 15 different ways we could come at them with boots on the ground.

And guess what, there are.

So if we needed to, we could execute those options on behalf of the President of the United States and this department.

Or maybe we don't have to use them at all, maybe negotiations work, or maybe there's a different approach.

The point is to be unpredictable in that.

He's basically saying trust in Trump.

Yeah.

That's the strategy.

Trust in Trump.

He knows what he's doing.

We're going to get to the other side of this.

And I'm getting the sense still that most Republicans, Democrats, I can't wait because they hate Trump.

But most Republicans, I think, are still in the trust in Trump phase because other than a spike in gas prices,

what is the loss that would turn them against Trump so much?

I don't think it's there.

And even the boots on the ground possibility right now is being used as leverage.

It's not actually happening.

Yeah, I think that's where Democrats get lost still with Trump.

He throws out a variety of different perspectives.

And again, I think one of the most successful things Trump has done is keep Iran on its toes and not aware of what's going to happen.

He caught them by surprise on the June attack when we bombed initially.

He clearly caught them by surprise when they took out the Ayatollah.

And so Iran right now is sort of on their back foot trying to assess what's likely to end up happening.

And I don't think there's an easy answer as to what exactly they are able to do.

I'll say there's a ton of vehicles, ton of boats moving through the street of Hormuz today,

which is the highest level of boat traffic that we have seen in basically a month.

And I do think that that is a, that is a tacit sign that some elements of Iran have been telling the oil and gas community,

hey, we are okay with having you being able to transit and we're not necessarily going to attack you.

Remember, the straight of Hormuz is Iran cutting its own throat because the only way this regime has any money at all

is from sending their oil and gas through the straight of Hormuz.

And so if Iran is bombing, you could say yes, well, they could let their own fleet go through and they could bomb other boats,

which I guess is a possibility there. But I think that's going to be a hard distinction to make.

And that ultimately, the fact that we're seeing way more ships go through in transit, I think, Buck,

is actually a sign that Iran is trying to prove to Trump that he is negotiating with people who do in fact control decision making in Iran

and whether or not ships are allowed to go through is a sign of this regime having some control, the new regime.

Because remember, theoretically, little Mo, the son of the Ayatollah is in charge,

but we still have no idea where he is or who is making decisions.

And most of them may be gay, we're told.

Which is an interesting twist of fate that we were told this by the president himself.

And then I think Trump said that, you know, not that there's anything wrong with that.

That's right. But there would be something wrong with that in Iran to be clear.

Little Mo, you would think would have a problem if everybody knew that.

So that might have been an information operation of some sort to just get that out there.

Because I think it's hard to run a molocracy if they think that you're actually a gay guy.

Yes. That is a tough position to be in in Iran.

And President Trump, I thought, kind of, did talk about that in a humorous way as we played for everybody on the five when he called in.

And he was asked directly, did the CIA tell you that he may the leader maybe gay?

And he basically went full Seinfeld, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Okay. We will take some of your calls. We got a loaded guest list.

Isabel Brown is going to join us. She got ripped on the view for having the incredibly controversial opinion that it's good to get married and have kids.

And you should do it.

Babies are good. How good?

Babies are good.

Have them.

Congressman Chipperoy is going to join us. He'll give us the latest from Capitol Hill on the chaos there is the Senate has abandoned town and the House is still trying to get things done.

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Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.

We've got a lot to get into today.

Even had a very interesting Supreme Court decision come down and Clay we haven't talked yet about the birthright citizenship Supreme Court oral arguments that have happened.

That is a big one that is one of the probably will be I don't know is there a bigger Supreme Court case of this term for at least the Trump administration and policy to consider that one.

So we've got a lot of things happening and going on.

I will tell you today clay that I am this is in the not as big of a thing.

But I am in a Palm Beach area today.

And I was saw our friends from a tunnel to towers last night saw Frank Siddler saw Mr Sean Hannity Dennis quate was there.

Good golfer often at the tunnel the towers events bring you to the offer see I have to I have to you're the goal by the way they all ask me to like when are you going to learn golf because you're our golf representative of the show.

I don't play I don't understand why can't there be tennis charity events like this like it's always golf every.

You need you need old guys that don't have to have a lot of athleticism to be able to do things for a long time.

And golf is the one that you can hang on to for longer than most sports I think is the is the easy answer.

This is probably a time to admit because we're going to talk a lot about serious stuff in Iran and and world peace and the economy and everything in a moment here.

You know I've been nursing a little bit of an injury on my arm and people it's actually tactically tennis elbow and people have been saying well you must have gotten this from tennis.

No clay it's worse than that I got it from pedal what is pedal you might ask I wonder how many of you have even heard of this.

Pedal is a sports ball game that is incredibly popular particularly in Latin America and parts of Latin America and Europe.

It was invented in Mexico it is most probably common or like most beloved in Spain actually it's rapidly growing all over the world.

It's a little bit like tennis mixed with squash mixed with pickleball I think all together into one.

And that is how I got injured but I will tell you we're going to it's enormously popular Miami I never even heard of it until I moved to Miami there's pedal places opening all over the place.

We're going to have to get you on a pedal court I realize this is we're going to have to get some video clay does pedal.

People don't know this feels this feels like your patat pistachio ice cream take although I will say the fact that it's popular in Latin America this feels like a very.

I was like a very bougie way to to play sports with this be the this is the anti football is that a fair way.

The anti American football sport if you had to select one it's a lot of a lot of Latin Latin American folks or Americans of Latin descent that I know who play this also play polo.

So I think that tells you something yeah that's super I wouldn't even think of polo because it's so high and I don't even nobody's ever invited me thankfully to get on a horse and try to hit right around and hit something.

But I have to stop making fun of disaster I have to stop making fun of producer Ali and pickleball now because I've crossed over and started playing.

Pedel so this is this is my thing now I want to have I want to do a pedal fundraiser for like tunnel the towers because there'll be a lot of super rich guys from Latin America and

Spain and stuff who can be there and can write checks because I can't golf you are a golf representative how would you describe your golf swing.

I would describe it as awful to do sum it up in one word it would be it's a little bit better than Charles Barclay's golf swing but but I would describe it as awful on a basic level.

How much what is your handicap if we're going with all of you I think I would be like a 20 you know I don't get to play that much I am I am not a good golfer.

Well better than me and they were like where's clay we need someone to actually play golf I'm like what about the pedal.

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tomorrow buck you mentioned that the Supreme Court is going to be hearing oral arguments on whether birthright citizenship

should or should not be the law of the land and look I'm not optimistic that the Supreme Court is going to be willing to do what I think they should do

which is say that this whole concept of that citizenship by soil as opposed to citizenship by blood which will get into some tomorrow is going to be really

interesting to hear how those questions come down but in the meantime we did have a Supreme Court ruling that came down eight to one

a little bit earlier today right before in fact we came on the air eight to one Supreme Court ruling saying that a law in

Colorado which tried to ban conversion therapy which will get into a bit was unconstitutional the only the only

justice that lined up and said hey I think this ban was constitutional was Katanji brown Jackson and even Elena Kagan went after Katanji brown

Jackson who filed a 35 page descent and it is look I think the last curse of the Joe Biden era is unfortunately going to be

with us for a generation plus which is he put a holy unqualified far left wing politician not a judge far left wing politician on the court

and even left wingers on the court are I think frankly embarrassed that Katanji brown Jackson is there and buck even Elena Kagan

who whatever you want to say about Elena Kagan she is a smart principle leftist jurist but understands how the law works.

I think former dean of Harvard law school you may not agree with her but you're going to read her opinion and say there is a foundation of

constitutional jurisprudence under under guarding her opinions that is not occurring here and unfortunately Katanji

Brown Jackson basically is is going to be worthless or generate just to give everybody a little bit of a little bit of a background on this right so

the Supreme Court Clay mentioned eight one decision she lays versus Salazar she let's be Salazar and so Kaley she

was a licensed Christian mental health counselor in Colorado who was giving talk therapy to people and she was working with clients

who wanted to reduce same sex attraction the state of Colorado has had a law in place and there are other states

and there are other states with this that prohibits people who are this was a licensed therapist prohibits licensed therapist from working with people at their request to talk through and reduce

same sex attraction or get gay attraction right and meanwhile they also had a law this is the part of it that was really telling you what's going on.

I mean what happened to Colorado I used to think of Colorado was like cowboys in the mountains and now it's like communists running wild.

It's it's just gotten completely the politics there and remember Buck they the Colorado Supreme Court is such a mess that they said it was constitutional

everybody forgets Democrats tried to take Trump off the ballot in Colorado Supreme Court said you can do this.

The United States Supreme Court said nine oh you can't it's hard to get nine oh I know even Jackson think about that.

He's crazy.

Katoji Brown Jackson was like guys you went too far think about how stupid that is a state thought that they could

remove a person from the ballot who had no criminal conviction and no constitutional barter running think about how insane that is.

Yes.

I mean that that anyone actually ever and there were people going an MSNBC I'm a legal scholar and I defend this you know.

Anyway back to this this gender therapy or same sex attraction therapy stuff.

Clay if somebody went in though seeking therapy to make them more trans that was under the law yes you could make somebody more you

could push somebody down the trans path but you could not push them back from the edge of the gay path essentially and so the law was was clearly I mean this is obviously

the first amendment discrimination there's no eight eight justices found this to be first amendment discrimination.

Katoji Brown Jackson decided that words were medical care in this context.

So essentially she was treating this like a surgery.

And so if you tell somebody hey maybe you're not gay maybe you're just in a moment of confusion in your sexuality you know you're but this was for

mind you so these are including teenagers.

Maybe you're not gay maybe you're having a moment let's talk this through that's like doing a a unchangeable surgery on somebody.

Which by the way they do on the other side for the trans people.

They actually do surgery but words here were being treated by Katoji Brown Jackson Jackson.

I mean she really is she's the MSNBC comment section made into a Supreme Court justice.

She is untethered to the law and unhinged when it comes to the Constitution.

It kind of gave you a sense that there was a discomfort with her being on the Supreme Court where a lot of times they're very collegial relationships even

across different perspectives on how to apply constitutional jurisprudence.

That's a great example they were very good friends even though intellectually they disagreed very often.

There was a acceptance of a principal disagreement on how to apply the law across to Bucks Point Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsburg both very smart and had different readings.

Elena Kagan I think that there are a lot of people out there who say hey I may not agree with her you know renderings of judgment but I trust the intellectual heft that she is bringing to bear on those opinions.

When Amy Coney Barrett Buck I thought it was very significant Amy Coney Barrett does not seem like the kind of person who wants to take a two by four to people very often she seems like what she is.

A mom who tries to be kind and some of her responses to Katanji Brown Jackson were the equivalent judicially of just throwing your hands up in the air and saying I can't even stomach these arguments they're embarrassing they don't recognize any past precedent.

Elena Kagan kind of did that in this eight one opinion again on the left Elena Kagan kind of saying like come on this is an utterly ridiculous to your point Buck I think it's a you know blue sky reddit board far left wing take and that's fine if you have to far left wing takes but being a judge who does this is just again I think the final.

Final awful echo and reverberation of the Biden administration that unfortunately is going to be with us for generations.

And he told us that he was going to limit the limit the pool to black female jurists which given the actual interpretation of the constitution in most recent years it's really not okay not how to do that I don't know how you can do about the legality of such a thing.

But Clay if you if we put out a job let's just say we put out a job opening for this show.

And we said hey guys great opening you know we got we got great producers here we're going to have a fabulous team to work with we're only hiring black women for this job.

Yeah we would be sued and we would lose.

Yes no question and by the way rightly so like that would be a clear violation of of the standards that you can use under the constitution under the nondiscrimination and employment that's how he set up a supreme court appointment.

He said it out loud too it's not it's not like worse we're surmising this he said it out loud and and you have somebody who is just I I agree with you by the way I don't.

I see things differently than Kagan but I respect that she's at least trying to stay within the law.

Yeah Katangi Brown Jackson you know what she's going to do more or less based upon what your standard MSNBC watching leftist wants to happen.

Yeah which is not the way it's supposed to be.

Yeah and again it's not even a judge opinion it's just crazy left wing opinion and I said this at the time Katangi Brown Jackson's appointment under federal law was unconstitutional.

What do I mean by that you are not allowed under federal law to say I am only going to consider a black woman for a job.

First of all it's demeaning to the black woman because if you pick a black woman for a job and you've eliminated what is it 97% I think of lawyers 98% maybe even were eliminated on their face when Biden said I'm only going to pick a black woman.

So you're saying I'm only picking a judge from 2% of the legal community and then he picked one that was not particularly a stoop or talented in the black female legal.

Can we can we can we unpack this first and let's unpack this for a second he picked her she had been a judge before okay.

Did she have a leg up in that appointment because she was a black woman yes the only reason she got the job in the first place was because she was a black woman.

But but I'm saying yeah you know just keep keep working it back oh she went she went to Harvard law okay what were her assets yes she have a light we we know that that tradition that generally speaking overwhelmingly black students of her age that went to Harvard would have had a tremendous benefit from their race that as we know the Supreme Court has actually said you were not supposed to have you're not supposed to have that that's wrong.

So you can work it all the way back and people because when you say oh she's not qualified to say well she was a judge before and she went to Harvard law yeah well did she have those things because she was a black female.

These are these are entirely valid questions which I know until recently we're told we're not asked these questions but actually know you can ask these questions because like we said.

Elena Kagan is a is is a you know a gay woman she's a lesbian she's a very talented lawyer and she's very very smart yeah so it's not about identity but the left makes it about identity.

There are black women who would be great on the Supreme Court there are black women who would absolutely deserve that job.

I don't think that the contingent Brown Jackson is one of them I agree and that that's just you know observing what we can all see here because they they never say look at the look at the depth and clarity of the opinions.

I know they have staffs but the opinions put out and look at the depth and Claire Clay she speaks like five times as much as all the other jerks together or some I mean it's not that much but it's a lot.

Well and again that goes to I think that she has broken a lot of the collegial norms I think a lot of people are fed up with her on the court.

And I think even leftists are of the opinion like Elena Kagan is where they just kind of rolled their eyes and say this is a poor choice and she's going to be there buck for 30 more years.

A very a very long time well but also it's a reminder Biden we got sold on Biden to the degree that we were actually sold on him just let's let's let's just take let's move past that for a second you know the country was sold on Biden so to speak as the uniter clay and as he's not a radical what better what better example can you have of the actual radicalism and practice of the Biden administration.

Which we could sit here and we did for years talk about it but we're going to whether it's the covid stuff or the spending or the trans policies or the wide open border Joe Biden was the Trojan horse for far left Obama is policy if you will and there's no better example of him being a far left figure head.

That's the supreme that's the moderate supreme court justice that we get from a Biden administration.

Also remember that he picked Kamala Harris after saying he would pick a woman as his running mate and eliminating all men from consideration and then he took it a step further by saying I will only pick a black woman.

And and the result is I think we have ended up with the least qualified most political supreme court justice in any of our lives and I was just looking up to see how old she is and unfortunately buck we're going to probably have her if if age is any expectation for another 30 years I would also point this out as we go to break here Supreme court requires a majority Senate approval.

There is a possibility out there that Republicans could lose the supreme could lose the Senate in November and that Trump basically would not be able to get anybody appointed.

Just like with Ruth Bader Ginsburg who thought hey I'm going to live forever and left behind the opportunity to have Obama be able to appoint her replacement.

Look at this situation right now we've got clearance Thomas around 75 we've got a Lido around 74 if I'm not mistaken.

It may be five or six years until Republicans have what they have now which is control of the Senate and the presidency to be able to control who gets on the Supreme Court.

Everybody who gets into their 70 seems to think that they're going to live forever and be healthy forever the data often reflects that's not true at all.

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All right, welcome back in here to play and buck. We have a lot that we're going to be getting into today and we're going to update you also on the the TSA and DHS funding situation because it feels like that's getting better but it hasn't come to a full resolution yet.

We'll talk to Texas representative chip Roy about that. It's you know, Clay, we get to this point where I think it just becomes very.

Oh wait, actually. I had I had something I want to throw in the mix. I'll hold that for a second.

Democrats just made a lot of people ruin their vacations and ruin their day hundreds of thousands of people for no reason.

Yeah, except that they're bitter that they're not in power. Just I hope everyone remembers that because they're getting nothing out of this other than.

The bitterness that they spread everywhere because that's what Democrats do, but some a bit of good news.

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I got to say I love it. It should be named. I mean what what other airport would be named. This should be the airport name for him.

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That's why I also fly into Fort Lauderdale. It's a little bit of a difficult traveled schedule sometime, but it's way easier to get in and out of.

A great guest Isabel Brown, Chip Roy, Jared Isaacman of NASA still to come. Keep hanging with us.

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