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Having had some time here to cool off and be alone with my thoughts
and see all of the ways that I am flawed,
perhaps publicly you guys can help catch me up on some things that I've missed
last week from the scouting combine.
Because I thought that there were three big stories
from the scouting combine, okay?
Diego Pavia is himself,
and so people don't like when a quarterback goes in there or any player
and isn't maximum humble inside of the system.
Rubenbane's arms are too short, and then this man,
Jennings Dunker.
Oh my hero.
Offensive lineman from Iowa,
and from your hair metal band past.
This is 80s music, this is poison.
This is, yes, this is a big guy with a mullet.
Look at him doing drills here.
Is that a pure ginger?
Chris?
Oh, that is a proper ginger right there.
Full.
What do you think?
Do you think that's a proper ginger?
You know how I feel about that word.
I don't want to be scared of that word.
I don't like the word either.
I don't get it at words.
It's pejorative.
It's pejorative.
I don't think it is pejorative.
I believe that it should be pejorative because you're attacking a minority,
but you're doing it with ginger, and it's just a nice word,
but jujitsu doesn't want any part of it.
If you're listening to Ellen.
I didn't like the word growing up.
I'll be honest with you.
Okay, so you think it's a slur?
You think this because jujitsu is avoiding the word entirely.
On the list of slurs, probably low.
But a slur nonetheless.
I'll give you that.
But I don't think anyone looks at it as a slur.
But now let's rank them.
Well, I'll do the one.
You need to, on behalf of fellow gingers,
rise up if you wish for it to be considered a slur
because no, I haven't heard no one ever say
that gingers are being wronged by being called gingers.
It's not exactly a term of endearment,
but it's sure not a slur, it's not a slur,
it's not a slur, it's, it's, look, it does,
I don't think it even gets close to cracker.
Oh, wow, I am scared.
I don't think it's even, I think ginger
exists in this space where it is not quite offensive,
but it's, it's just a descriptive term
that isn't quite as benign as redhead,
but also I have never heard anyone,
I've heard gingers refer to themselves as ginger without...
We could say it to each other.
Oh, see?
Oh, sure, they could say it.
They could say, they could say it with an A or an N,
gin job.
Can I see a little more of this guy doing drills?
It's a great, it's a great name, Jennings Dunker,
but it's a lot of, it's a lot of red hair,
but Chris, I'm not sure it's a lot of freckles.
Oh, there's some pale thighs though.
I cannot tell from here that they're, they're freckles,
and also...
Can we zoom in on that arm?
And also, Sam Darnold is a little bit paler
that I think of gingers as being slightly less tan
than this person, not getting a tan in Iowa.
The combine, the combine is wears.
Is it still in Indianapolis or something?
Yes, that's why Carson Beck got booed
because they allow paying patrons
to go over there and hackle Carson Beck.
Who, by the way, made himself some money
with some most impressive quarterback on throwing day.
Why is it that he was being hackled just...
Because they law say Indiana.
Also, people just hate Carson Beck.
I think it's his face.
Definitely his face.
It looks like a mugsie cartoon.
What other scouting combined stories did I miss?
Is there anything good that other than those three
that I just mentioned?
The head coach, the Jets Aaron Glen,
took a nap during the conversation on TV.
Aaron Glen got caught.
Was alerted that he was on camera and had to be startled.
We can wrap that video for you.
Jeremiah Love, very fast.
Why wasn't Arkansas better?
Was another question that people were asking.
Markel Bell, hey,
where maybe Ruben Bayne has some physical deficiencies.
Markel Bell seems like an elevated human being
who is very fast.
I don't know if he's going to have to run 40 yards down field,
but it seems as though he can do so quite well.
The Ruben Bayne discourse is interesting,
because we've always known that he's been undersized.
We've known about his wingspan,
but I guess people at large didn't
tape speaks for itself.
The thing about wingspan that's interesting to me,
because every year at this time we start objectifying
these people in a way that's a meat marketing
and it's usually there's some small hand stuff.
This is not something that I've heard a lot of,
because you have to have a specific set of things
to be a great edge rusher.
And usually,
the
jadevian clownies of the world happen to have
hands that reach down to around their knees
because they can swing around the edge
with that kind of wingspan.
But Ruben, the way that Ruben Bayne does it,
though, is because he's lower to the ground.
He is lower to the ground on the edge rush
when he leans to you,
and it's all strength.
It almost doesn't matter that his arms are short
because of how he's using leverage.
But he will run into times where it matters.
In fact, he has run into times.
I've seen film breakdowns of when he was going up
against Ole Miss's line.
That was good and bigger body types
and where your wingspan does matter.
We ran...
Same thing happened to Brett Romberg,
who was a center for the University of Miami.
T-Rex on his short arms.
It's blocking.
You're physically battling someone else,
and you're at a disadvantage, a clear one
if your arms are shorter when you're trying to disengage.
So yeah, Ruben Bayne has to be more powerful.
Has to be a little bit lower.
Has to be a little bit quicker off the edge.
He is all those things.
I think he's going to be a real good pro.
Will he replicate the same amount of success he had in college,
going up against consistently bigger body types
and wingspan?
He's going to have to be really, really great
to overcome that stuff.
And it's probably why he won't be drafted,
you know, top five.
If he had normal arm length at the position,
the guy would be a bonafide top three pick and no doubter.
Yeah, it was also two more stories
that came out.
One, the USC Y receiver, lemon.
He was giving sassy look.
He was serving looks after the question.
I saw that.
Right.
Then it didn't go over too well.
As also a reporter, one of our own guys
of in the media took upon himself
to do his own combine.
And this is one of the guys that they say
has been talking about Caleb Williams, fingernails,
and the softness of people.
And he did a little bitch press.
And we got a video with that.
Let's see that video, too.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
And they were like, I was not ready for that.
Did he say, oh, yeah, no.
Why would he subject himself to do that?
That's 135 pounds.
That's not the 225 that they've got to throw up.
That's 135 pounds.
Why would he subject himself to that?
Jeremy's, I want to do it.
That's not what I'm saying back here.
He said he looks like me.
And I said specifically, I'm not going to say I could do that,
because then Dan will make me do it.
And I'm not going to.
I'm already saying it.
I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to do it.
Nope.
We have a gym.
I already have a bad.
I already have a bad back and neck
specifically because Brian McKinney put me in a headlock.
And I'm not doing anything about that.
So let's not push it any further.
McKinney hurt me too in that same situation.
So I'm on the other side.
Can you guys look up for me what the record is?
It's still Larry Allen holds the record for bench press
at the scouting comment, because I think he did 225 46 times.
And I don't know if anyone has topped it
since their Larry Allen was somebody
who was feared by a whole bunch of violent men
who do defensive things for a living.
For 46 times at 225, which is that,
that's really embarrassing for that report.
How do you think those are going to go?
I'm just surprised that he had that much trouble, though,
with, I mean, you've got to be able to get 135
up off the one time.
Like it can't just collapse on your chest.
If you're someone who's criticizing Caleb Williams
for painting his fingernails and being
soft, it was immediate give up.
You can't just quit when it lands on your chest
and is, and is that light?
He said, oh, yeah, no, that is.
The record at the combine for reps of 225 pounds
is 51 set by defensive tackle of eastern Kentucky
Justin Ernest in 1999.
Larry Allen did it 43 times.
How do I probe?
How was that player from Eastern Michigan?
Did he play in the pro's or was he just somebody
who holds the combine record and then
stopped playing football after that?
Because it's not somebody whose game I am familiar with.
I don't know whether that person has actually had success
in the pros or not.
Never played an NFL game.
Broke that record.
He was in all Ohio Valley conference pick in 97.
Played it at Eastern Kentucky
and then never played an NFL game,
despite doing that 51 times.
Pretty impressive to me, whatever.
Who cares NFL?
It is actually.
You know what?
I'm with Zaslow on this.
There's some guy wandering around the earth
telling people, and nobody believes him.
Would you believe?
I never played football.
But I did more bench presses with 225
while in a football setting
than anyone has ever done.
Including Larry Allen.
That guy, that gasbag levitard won't shut up about.
I did it eight times more than he did.
And I was, I never played a decent football.
Horrible at the other drills.
I think that person actually tells people the bar now.
I think we should A, try and get a hold of that person.
And B, I think that guy, the way that he
retells the story now in old age
because it was in 99 is like, yeah.
Once I did that, I didn't have any need to prove
I was stronger than any of them.
So I just quit football all day.
Ran a 9-4-40.
He must have really been terrible at the other drills now.
You would think somebody would take a chance
on the guy who could bench press through 25-51 times.
Probably bomb the interviews.
Been to be good at the cone drill.
What have you guys noticed recently
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But you've heard me complain about
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Get ready for gas to go up if it hasn't already
when it gets to $100 a barrel.
But a cup of beans right now.
I just paid $9 for a cup of coffee.
And it wasn't the most offensive purchase
that was made by me in the airport.
What is the most you guys think a blowpop costs now?
I had not bought a blowpop in, I don't know, how many years?
One blowpop.
One blowpop.
And I'm saying that this is what they cost all over.
I know that the airport goes with game show prices on stuff.
So I know that this isn't normal pricing.
But still, I was alarmed when I put a blowpop on the counter
and then put a dollar behind it thinking that I'm thinking that-
No, that's not silly.
Come on, that's not silly.
That's not silly, man.
Not silly, then come on.
What a whole dollar.
What a, look, if that person knows sports at all,
what a strange interaction the person
on the receiving end just had that.
Yeah, you guys remember the guy from
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Came to my little kiosk, he put a single blowpop
on the cashier table and slid a dollar behind it
and looked at me like I was crazy.
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Dan Lebatard.
But it's just his titties are sitting on the shelf that is his belly.
Stugats.
He said titties and he's like shocked me a little bit.
I wasn't quite prepared for titties.
This is the Dan Lebatard show with his Stugats.
Again, though, I want to ask the question.
Are you, you guys, nobody here is surprised
that a blow pop is over a dollar back in the day.
It was a quarter.
I would have guessed the dollar like that.
When you said the, to guess, I was going to say,
I didn't even get halfway there.
It's 250 a bad guess.
That was three dollars easy.
It wasn't three dollars to 75.
It was two dollars and 29 cents.
But why are you, I don't think we're asking the most obvious question
is you're at the airport.
You're going for a snack.
It's a great snack.
I'm with Dan.
And a blow pop.
It's not, it's not a, a grown man at the airport with a sucker.
And I think the, the airport shops know that they can jack up the prices
because where else are you going to go?
Also, do you get a banana?
You a bite or a low and slow?
I am a bite and two Trista's question, which is a good one,
a real need to get airport breath out of my mouth
and didn't want to buy an entire pack of gum.
So instead of buying an entire pack of gum,
I just wanted to get out, you, you guys know what I'm talking about?
No, we don't, we don't, we don't know what airport breath is.
It sounds like you might have sleep at me.
It's a six hour flight and you're,
no gum, just blow pop.
Well, it is mouth breathing.
No, what do you mean?
Yeah, there is gum at the center of it.
But like, I want to go to a blow pop to make my breath smell better.
Uh, I'm going to get that taste, that airport breath out of my mouth.
The airport, yeah, that is a result of the airport taste.
Yes, clearly.
It's a key little taste.
Yes, but is that what airport?
That's usually what airport breath is, brother.
It's like, what do we do with the airport breath?
It sounds like six of the lounge.
I think people know what I'm saying when I say,
you've taken a six hour flight.
Do you have airport breath?
I think people know absolutely what I'm saying.
I also think I'm being quite reasonable when I say,
I didn't want to buy a whole bunch of gum.
I wanted a single piece of gum.
And you can't buy a single piece of gum.
Because I want a dollar with that blow close in the purse dollar, bro.
Do you guys have something like this recently?
Everyone's complaining about how much, yeah,
despite having a fixed interest rate,
my mortgage has gone up $600 over the last few months.
And they don't tell me I have to figure it out for myself.
I'm like, well, maybe it'll go down since it went up.
It doesn't work that way.
Yeah, who do I call?
Because the second I get a mortgage,
it changes like you immediately get a letter in the mail saying,
hey, the person that you signed up your mortgage through,
they don't have it anymore.
They immediately sold it.
They love selling that.
Then you get another letter saying, guess what?
I hope you then get used to them because they sold it.
And then, you know, four months later,
your mortgage rate goes up.
You don't know who to talk to.
This is insane.
It went up $600 in the last few months.
I'm not going to blame you for playing my invented game incorrectly.
But when I went blowpop,
I wasn't expecting you to go mortgage.
I got one of those good ones.
I got one of those like right at the time that you should.
I'm telling you, we got less than 3% interest on this bad boy.
Got that good rate?
I got one of those COVID rates.
I'll pre-pandemic.
Yeah, yeah.
So imagine all the leftover income
that I could have spent on blowpops over the last few months.
And then I look at this statement.
I'm like, there was something wrong with the last one.
But you know what?
I got enough problems.
We'll give them a month.
It went up another couple hundred.
Put it on the pole, please,
Judeoat Levitard.
Show is $2.29 too much for a blowpop.
And speaking of finances that I don't understand,
there are a couple of things happening
in the business of college sports that I don't understand.
I don't understand Cincinnati, the university,
suing quarterback Brendan Sorby for a million dollars
because they want a million dollars
for Texas Tech stealing its quarterback.
And I don't understand how it is
that Mike's guy, D-Money, from Kane Inside,
keeps putting out that the FSU program
is $437 million in debt.
The FSU athletic program,
I don't even understand how you get to $437 million in debt
and are allowed to keep functioning.
A lot of bad buyouts and no on-field success,
no college football playoffs.
And they've spent a ton of money on lawyers
to thankfully they were the ones that did that
because Miami ended up reaping all the benefits
from the FSU actually being the ones to sell.
But this happens.
Maryland and Rutgers have also lost a lot of money.
There was a story that said Penn State
who's actually had some success in the college football playoff.
There are losing money over there.
Two quick things.
There's an SNK's insight and an SNS Sorby.
Did I not say Kane's insight?
I said Kane's insight, which is at my other website
that is totally dedicated to the Undertaker's brother,
the Big Red Machine.
How does a program exist at $437 million in debt?
How do you get out from under?
How do you compete in big-time college football
against programs that are making money
when you're $437 million in debt
and you can't get rid of your coach
because you can't afford the buyout?
Right.
So what happens is they're going to spend another year
knowing that it's a nowhere year,
but that saves them on the buyout.
That's the reality of their situation.
They're going to have to get lucky on a coach
that is known to develop talent.
They haven't really taken that path right now.
They're probably going to turn a private equity
to get them out of it,
but we don't know the rules there yet.
I know that they've been talking plenty.
But Elliott has said he's a part of a private equity group
that is trying to help FSU's financial situation.
Ultimately, where this all goes
is some kind of uniform super league alignment
from the top 50-some odd schools there.
And football is siloed off on its own,
and you'll have owners.
You'll have private equity firms
and they'll be treated like actual professional projects.
But how are you going to define
what the top 50 programs are?
Can one of them be $437 million in debt
they're going to have to dig themselves out of that debt.
But I do think that, look,
it's all network-talking pro franchises
in the world of college football.
Florida State has immense value as a franchise, as a brand.
And it's probably a worthy investment
and a decent pay cheaper type of opportunity
for someone that is looking to invest in private equity.
Just there's a lot that needs to get worked out.
That's why the president understands that.
And at this point, conveniently reaching four sports
to have some sort of normal conversation
which he and his brand so desperately need,
this thing's going to need to be collectively bargained.
And it's going to take time
and no one has the balls on either end
because they're not wealthy enough on either end
to say, let's stop sports for a minute.
They're too popular and the money and the revenue
is coming in and these TV deals exist
and they can't turn off the spout.
So they have to build the plane in the sky.
And it's got to look messy
and it's got to look like Brendan Sores
be getting sued for a million dollars
because they just saw, do get some sort of buyout.
Basically, what's the, what can we lose here?
Couple, maybe a couple, $10,000 on a lawyer's bill.
Like Texas Tech has money to make me go away
and shut me up and that's all that's happening.
Well, but when you say Texas Tech,
you see that Texas Tech basketball is also really good.
Texas Tech has now bought its way into the game.
And when you say top 50 schools at football,
it's Cincinnati, one of them,
because Texas Tech just stole Cincinnati's quarterback
and Cincinnati wants a million dollars in that exchange
for finders fee, whatever it is,
they want a million dollars back
because you stole our quarterback.
Is Texas Tech now,
Texas Tech has to be considered a major player.
They've, but Texas Tech,
in my lifetime, they beat Texas once
with crab tree as the quarterback
and have not mattered at sports the rest of the time.
It's tumbleweed you.
Texas Tech has not been one of the major programs
in my lifetime.
They exist to be like the seventh best program
in the state of Texas as fodder to,
for the rest of the conference and the good schools.
Now Texas Tech is top 50.
Is Cincinnati?
I don't know if Cincinnati makes it to whatever super league.
Cincinnati made it to,
I think the 14 playoff pretty recently against Alabama.
They've been a decent football program
more known for basketball and their,
and their heyday.
Texas Tech's basketball team has been good
along the way.
A couple of times,
certainly in my lifetime,
they've been good.
Not this good, not this good.
Not top 10 good.
Didn't they make it to,
they made it to a final four in San Antonio?
Yeah, they had a good basketball team
with some good players there.
But Texas Tech is just knowing
what the NIL marketplace is.
Texas Tech is really, really a tighten
when it comes to talent acquisition and spending money.
They have a very large affluent base
that makes no bones about what they want.
They're in a conference that allows
for a pretty easy path as we saw.
They made it to the college football playoff
with relativ ease and we're given even a buy this year.
So Texas Tech,
they're going to be around for a long time in this game.
I don't know how it all works with private equity
and you would assume there's some kind of cap
which may make Lubbock less appealing
because right now they're not really dealing with that.
The Lubbock Texas is nowhere land, right?
The idea that that exists as a place
that is now buying premium college football
and basketball talent
and that they've gotten into the game
is something that is a little bit,
it's unbelievable to watch them climb to the top with dollars
because you can buy yourself into this game.
Yeah, for older people like us too,
but you have to keep in mind,
Patrick Mahomes is a huge brand
and he is very much associated with that school.
It has his own brand that is designing uniforms there.
If you're an impressionable high school kid
looking where to take your talents.
The school that Patrick Mahomes went to
that's always putting up points
and is very recently mattering in college basketball
and mattering in college football,
that seems like a lovely place for me to take your talents.
Well, it's happening,
what's one of the interesting things
to see happening in the business of college sports
is these athletes are no longer paying
to put their name on the weight room or something.
They're doing what Andrew Luck is doing
which is saying, well, I'll go get the donors
because I'm Andrew Luck.
And if you give me the rights to run the entire program,
I will get people who have money
to spend money on the program because I'm Andrew Luck.
So they're getting involved in a way that gives...
When you see the athletes with money
get into the competitive games
where athletes are competing against each other with money.
I don't know what Gilbert Reenis is doing right now,
but the problem Gilbert Reenis had recently
is that he's got too many guys in his neighborhood
showing up with cars on his lawn
and the neighbors are complaining.
So he can't do a full studio that has skipped bailiffs
in his house even though he's got enough money
to compete in the media game.
He's got too many people on his lawn
because he's trying to run a full media empire.
And on Tuesdays, when he's doing basketball
and football shows, there are too many black people
and the white people neighborhood
and what's happening is they're like, stop.
We got too many cars in the driveway here.
Gilbert Reenis can't run a media center
out of what is a legitimate studio.
He's got a legitimate studio.
Judges, like Jay Cole, I think the neighbors think
I'm selling dope.
This is actually like that better use as.
Yo, that's my gimmick.
Wait, what?
No, that's not my gimmick.
No, I was feeding him.
I was feeding him a line and it's...
No, I'm a wrecked Cody.
No, I wanted Zaz to say you know
about that too many black people.
And he wouldn't do it.
No, he wouldn't.
But no, he said, yo, that's my gimmick
not realizing that I was...
I crouched down like in a whisper
because I didn't even want the internet.
Unbelievable.
Not like anything.
I mean, it's a red alert.
Dan said crackers are there.
Oh, it's on Zaz, so Zaz load.
What just happened is, did you get scared?
He said Cody, did you get scared?
Because what were you saying?
That's my gimmick too, black.
Oh, excuse me.
I was feeding him a...
You know about that, you know about that
too many black people, Dan?
I would've thought it was on air for a second.
Yeah, first part was my gimmick, the second part,
not my gimmick.
Well, none of it was...
We were working in the shadows, pal.
Like, no one was really alerted
to what we were doing workshop in your gimmick.
I respected the fact that it was your gimmick
because I was trying to feed you the line
so you could do your gimmick.
That's in the shadows.
No, but you said that on the air.
No, I said it on the air.
It was just something that you're just grasping right now,
even though it was very clear to everybody else.
You know what?
I'm sorry to do this to you, Zaz, low,
but you're gonna have to get out of here.
I don't think I've ever made that mistake before.
Minor penalty, two minutes,
revering the show with your bare hands
and a dismemberment kid in cold blood.
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Don Lebatard.
The only is Captain Slapy.
Stugats.
Is this chumbucket?
This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugats.
And...
If Gilbert Arrines back to doing his show
or has he not been able to get it back.
Like Gilbert Arrines got into the game aggressively.
Uh, big.
Uh, he gave up part of the ownership of his media thing
and started his own thing as many people are doing
in the media space, but there's too many cars at his house.
Too many cars.
When he tries to have Skibalus on,
and this is why Texas Tech is back.
Yeah.
That's correct.
That's what Andrew Luck has something to do with it too.
And speaking of money issues as we were,
I wanted to get into what it is that has happened
to both boxing and Floyd Mayweather
because I'm assuming that most people
who are watching Floyd Mayweather,
one of the few names in boxing that still somehow matters
because there are very few of them,
comes out of retirement at 49 years old.
We're assuming, right?
Everyone's assuming he needs money, right?
Nobody goes back into the game of possibly being hit
and embarrassed in front of people,
simply because they love boxing a great deal
at the age of 49.
He's probably incredibly confused
why someone keeps selling his mortgages.
He probably has a dozen homes,
and three dozen different people holding his mortgages lately.
That's why he's fighting.
It's the price of blowpops that has brought him back into the game.
I'm sure all of it.
And he doesn't look from where I was sitting
over the last 20 years,
didn't seem like he was super fiscally responsible.
This is the least surprising thing ever.
Well, you say it's the least surprising thing ever,
but Jeremy, just look up for me, okay?
The amount of earnings that we're talking about here,
because while athletic money being blown
is a bit of a cliche,
there are very few athletes ever
who have made the kind of money
that Floyd Mayweather has made,
because he's the best in the history of pay-per-view
at making sure that the money ends up in his pocket.
He is or has been a businessman as an athlete
that almost doesn't have a peer
because he owns all his own stuff as an independent.
Your spending has to be so fiscally irresponsible
to lose the amount of money that Floyd Mayweather has lost
that it is almost beyond anything that is reason.
It's not merely fiscal insanity,
it's something that doesn't make any sense to me.
Right, and another sign of him maybe in financial trouble
is as of February, 2026,
Floyd Mayweather has initiated a massive $340 million
lawsuit against Showtime Networks
and former executive Stephen Espinoza.
So he's trying to get some bread right now.
The estimate is that he made over $1.2 billion
over the course of his career
and just earnings from fights.
Yeah, I think a question though,
that you should also ask outside of how much is he made,
is how much has he spent, you know?
Because I would say he's fully capable of spending
close to $1 billion in the last 25 years.
You say that, but not that turn into the movie,
Brewsters, Millions from the 1980s.
It's hard to spend that money.
It really is hard to spend that much money
and end up in a situation where you have to fight at 49
because you're so used to a lifestyle
that brings in giant amounts of money,
that the only way for you to make a giant amount of money
is to do what he's presently doing,
which is something that somehow will make money
because people will still want to watch
if Floyd Mayweather can lose because that's where he made
his $1.2 billion, he made it in us watching to see if he'd lose.
I don't even think, like, it's just celebrity boxing
is so popular because we are obsessed with celebrity culture
and this is the rare reality show
in which we can see people fight, you know?
Like, oh, wouldn't it be awesome if this celebrity
got in a fight with this celebrity?
Look at the views that Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, AI video did,
just because wow, what an awesome fight
between two super famous people.
Celebrity death man.
Yeah, Mayweather doing the exhibition fight with Tyson
who, you know, literally almost died the last time
he tried doing this in his training
against another celebrity and doing it against Pac-Yo,
who, you know, them two together, that has cachet.
That certainly has a big value
and I think people will watch it well into their 60s
if they decide to keep doing it.
Well, but the thing that I'm pointing out though
is that at 49, he would have no other way
of making this amount of money in one place
because it is an enormous amount of money
that he will make though it pales in comparison
to the previous amounts that he's made.
But I remember telling you guys here
when I saw it on South Beach at the height of his earning, right?
He and his crew walk into a place that's crowded,
it's by the pool, it's a pool party
and one of the guys just takes out of the duffel bag,
$10,000 in cash to get it for a handful of beach chairs
by a pool.
And I remember saying at the time
and I felt judgmental saying it,
but I'm like, that's exactly how you go broke,
no matter how much money it is that you've made.
But Jeremy, while you're looking up 1.2 billion,
I'd love to know any athlete's ever
who have made that amount of money
because the boxing game is so corrupt, right?
That Don King ran the boxing game
and one of the ways that he ran it is,
he just puts the suitcase with a million dollars cash
in front of Muhammad Ali.
He just puts it in front of Muhammad Ali
and gets him to sign it over for the fight in Zaire
that's going to make him a lot more money
that it ends up making Muhammad Ali.
When you hear that Floyd Mayweather is going after showtime
and because money in these contracts
doesn't end up going straight to him
even though he thinks that it does,
1.2 billion dollars still represents
more than Tom Brady is going to be making
from all of his ventures,
even with a $375 million contract for the last 10 years.
Like 1.2 billion dollars as an athlete
is such a staggering amount of money
to blow that I'm going to guess
that you're not going to find a whole lot of athletes ever
who have made that kind of money.
Well, that was just career earnings based off of fights.
That had nothing to do with endorsements.
So when you look at endorsements and things like that
you add Cristiano Ronaldo,
you add some of these tennis players
but like one Soto right now signed a $700 million contract.
Shohei Otoni, $700 million contracts.
Those are sort of the largest that you would find
just in terms of the on field product
but when you add endorsements
Otoni's right up there near the top as well.
Also only making $2 million for the salary right now.
And he could be super fiscally responsible
and just see a huge pile of $100 million lying around
and say, well, this is pretty easy.
Tyson almost died the last time he tried doing this
against a YouTuber.
I think I can hold my own there for a little bit
and I'm too threatened against Mani Pacquiao.
It's not like his life is in danger taking to the ring here.
It's one of the most defensive fighters of all time
going against guys that will pass their prime
for an easy few mil.
I get it.
He could he probably looking at this
and like this makes the most sense.
Right. He also spent heavily on luxury goods
including a $402 million $60 building acquisition in New York
on top of just carrying around 80,000 and Louis V backpacks
in which he was caught spending $500,000 in Louis V
in one sitting.
Back to you, Dan O.
The real estate ventures, I've heard him brag
about the real estate ventures.
You mentioned $400 million.
It's supposed to be an investment.
That's not supposed to be money lost.
That's supposed to be something that accrues.
That's a place to put your money so that you continue
to make money with your money.
It is, I'm not kidding you.
When I say it's really hard to blow 1.2 billion dollars
and when you get to 49 and have to do this,
what do you imagine 60 is going to look like for Floyd
if he cannot get his spending in order
because he's got used to a lifestyle that's a sign.
I don't know if it is that hard to spend as much money
as he's spent given all of the handlers
that always take percentages of entertainers, gross figures.
You've got publicists, you've got managers, you've got promoters.
They all want a percentage and then you have
a fiscally irresponsible life and all of a sudden you're broke.
So I think it's all of the people that suck at the teet
of an entertainer and athlete, et cetera,
that makes it really easy to blow through that plus taxes.
That's a, and who knows what his tax situation is?
That's an excellent point by Trissa
where the internet gathers, he's generated 1.3 billion dollars.
He's probably looking at taxes, handlers, managers,
fight promotion fees, saying I've actually cleared
like 450,000 of 450 million,
which is a lot more plausible for him to actually spend.
There are 11 athletes according to Sportico
that have ever made over a billion dollars
and this is including endorsements,
but the bottom two on that list are Phil Mikkels
and Floyd Medweather.
Now Phil Mikkelsen as well,
someone notoriously not exactly great with his money.
But in those instances, what's been reported
is that he was also gambling enormous amounts of money,
which is different.
When you guys are saying it's easy
to spend 1.2 billion dollars,
I'm again going to tell you that it's not quite as easy.
You, we are talking about the most fiscally irresponsible athlete
there has ever been,
ever if he can blow this amount of money.
There's, there's never been anything close
to this kind of fiscal irresponsibility in the history
of sports because I'm guessing all of the other people
you're going to mention there, Jeremy,
aren't having any issues.
They may have tax problems.
They don't have to come out of retirement at 49
for another big payday because they've gone through
all of that money.
I think Mikkelsen did.
It could be a coincidence,
but Floyd Medweather is smack in the middle
of Neymor and Phil Mikkelsen.
Those three guys gamble a lot.
They, they wager a ton.
Neymor is, there's a famous internet video of Neymor
on a, on a poker app while his daughter's being
sung a happy birthday.
You can't do us have to pay tax and lose it gambling.
You can't do us have to pay tax and lose it gambling.
You can't do us have to pay tax and lose it gambling.
You can't do us have to pay tax and lose it gambling.
You can't do us have to pay tax and lose it gambling.
You can't do us have to pay tax and lose it gambling.
You can't do us have to pay tax and lose it gambling.
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