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JuJu Gotti is here as our Atlanta expert to refute Luke Kornet's take on Magic City, Dan wonders why arm length matters so much at the NFL combine, and Mike and Zas are furious at this show's asinine defense of sharks.
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Of all the unusual things about Jonathan Zazlow, him not eating chicken wings because he
doesn't want to be eating with his hands, he doesn't want it to be messy, is one of the
stranger culinary habits that he has.
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He does not have any shame about this.
For the rest of you, what is the best chicken wing to have?
Because famously, Magic City's lemon pepper wings are among the best in America, but when
you think of wing flavors, what do you like best?
My personal favorite is my own wings.
Talk to me, Dan.
Yeah, I've had those.
They're good.
I think before we get to flavors, we go, are you a drum or a wing guy or gal?
Flats only.
Really?
That's great coating.
Oh, I'm drums only.
Flats only.
I had a flatt of drumsticks.
I had a flatt of time in my life, but now I'm just down the middle.
Give me a little both.
Gotta go flatt.
Fence it or pick a side.
It's a time to pick a side in America.
You can find in the middle.
Habitat, show, chicken wings, drums or flats, and then put four flavors.
If you've got four to choose from, you've got lemon pepper is one of them, garlic,
parm, I think.
Buffalo?
Would be another one, buffalo.
If you go fourth, I'm going off the grid with my own.
That's not a usual popular one, right?
Yeah, I like hot with lemon pepper sprinkles.
Wow, combining through the titans of wing land.
That's all you got?
I was surprised.
I thought you had a little more.
Juju is obviously famously Atlanta, and the Atlanta Hawks are celebrating the region.
They're celebrating the famous nightclub, strip club in Atlanta Magic City on March 16th,
and I've seen it's a small controversy.
It's something of a controversy because of one NBA player.
Right, one NBA player, one of my favorite NBA players, too, which is very disappointing.
Luke Cornett stood up, and he basically, I don't have the statement in front of me, so
I don't want to go word for word, but I just don't think he's abreast of the security
that's provided for Magic City employees versus other places.
This is a high level establishment and very successful, so it doesn't follow the category
that he's...
The biggest concern.
Did you see the stability?
The gravity.
Abressed there purposely, or did you...
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Wow.
You really took it in a different direction there.
We were talking about stream change.
Not just the name change, but promoting his music.
You want to keep you abreast.
He did keep me abreast.
Did you have any thoughts here?
We just put the statement on...
What is Cornette getting wrong here in terms of...
Is he making this...
It feels it's degrading to...
That strip clubs in general is degrading to women and doesn't believe that the NBA should
be partnering with this type of establishment.
And I got to tell you, I love a strip club.
Don't get me wrong.
I love strip clubs.
All right.
You want to say...
You're trying to throw me in a waymo.
All right.
How about you send me to a strip club anyway.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
The last sentence of Cornette's complaint here says, please join me in petitioning the Atlanta
Hawks to cancel this promotion as to ensure that the NBA remains a safe, respectful, and
welcoming environment for everyone involved.
Again, I love gentleman's establishments, and I think this is funny what the Atlanta
Hawks are doing.
But I am rather shocked that the Hawks are doing this, you know.
Like Trista, when have you ever heard of a...
This isn't minorly baseball.
When have you ever heard of a professional sports franchise is partnering with the local
strip club for a theme night?
I think you need to get down to the ATL and really do some deep...
We need some journalists.
Pablo Torre needs to go down to Magic City and really dive in to how important this
establishment...
I don't even want to call it a strip club.
I want to call it a juke joint.
I want to talk about it being a breeding ground, an incubator for top rap artists that have
broken through a place of communing, a place to come together and eat some of the best
wings in the region.
We cannot say, Luke Cornette, have you ever bitten to Magic City, Luke Cornette?
Because he says, regardless of how a woman finds her way into the adult entertainment industry,
many of this space experience harassment and abuse, and that's not what we're doing here.
It's Magic City on a Monday playing the Orlando Magic.
It's a perfect common and the sweatshirts I need.
Juju, you have to get me one of those sweatshirts.
I already ordered two, by the way, preorder right now on AtlantaHouse.com, but yeah, you
said it perfectly, bro.
It's like, you have to do your knowledge, do the knowledge on what you're talking about.
Like, I can't come in here and give a man, you know, that heated rivalry show, they shouldn't
have that show.
Hockey is about this, hockey is about that, bro, I'm even going to watch the show, man,
so I can't be that passionate on it.
At LeBetard's show is the question that I want answered.
More of an Atlanta institution, Magic City, or the AtlantaHouse, and I'm not even kidding.
Because...
Or that aquarium.
When I put those two things next to each other in the NBA in terms of cultural reference
point, I think Magic City has more, is more of a cultural icon in Atlanta than the
Hawks who have never won anything.
More than Coca-Cola.
Mmm.
It's a good nominee.
It is not.
The word association.
It is not.
It is word association.
It is not.
I don't, you think that if I ask the audience here, Coca-Cola, and they're going to go to
Atlanta?
Like, that's the...
Magic City, Atlanta.
I'm aware that that's where their big factory is.
Yeah.
We got a Coca-Cola factory.
It's amazing.
But...
Yeah.
It's not better than Magic City, huh?
I just say that.
I'm talking about associated with Atlanta when you think of Atlanta and...
Track music.
I mean, well, but...
Definitely.
But T.I.
And that's a big reason why?
Well, T.I. is performing too that night.
Exactly.
And I'm glad you bought up T.I.
Because T.I. is a perfect example of these old brother steel-guided, 50 cent jumped out
and posted a picture of his wife trying to make fun of him just because he didn't want
to do the verses.
But T.I.
His son, his other son, and even his younger daughter have put out great, fantastic
distones on 50 cent and man, I'm proud to be from Atlanta.
I think it's so antiquated in 2026 to look down on women who choose to do this for a living.
Women who are making a lot of money, and perhaps more money than they could make in a job
that Luke Cornette would find acceptable.
It's their life.
So do with it what you want, young ladies.
That's my attitude.
Zagaki.
Thank you.
I wanted to go to you for all of your strip club expertise.
Yeah.
I have attended strip clubs in my day.
Attendant?
No.
All right.
I'm going to leave.
It's not lately.
Put it on the poll.
I love a tarred show.
Does anyone use the verb attend when talking about strip clubs?
Here's the thing about strip clubs in people my age.
Back in the day, the strip club is where you went for a bachelor party.
Like if you were getting married, you and a handful of buddies, go to the strip club,
bring a bunch of us at singles, spend a stack of money, spend a break before going to
a strip club with dollar bills and asking for change.
It's true though.
The real victims right now are the booby trap.
Because here in Miami, I feel like they have a case if magic city has one.
We cost an NFL PA guy his job because he went straight from the airport over to what
I guess was it scarlets or yeah, Tutsi's what it went straight that scarlets would like
a word.
Don Don Van Nadeau loved the report, loved to put in the report.
The details of landed didn't even put his suitcase in the hotel.
Just had his luggage waiting expensively in the parking lot at NFL players expense as
he didn't end up at his hotel room until the following night.
There aren't a lot of places in America who do that.
There aren't a lot of cities that stay open all night so that you can do something like
that.
Greg, did you have any thoughts on the recent conversations that we've been having
about the scouting combined and the stories coming out of the scouting combined, whether
it's Diego Povey has still got too much personality for the position or Ruben Baines arms
are too short?
Well, it's the it's the latter that interests me.
I honestly think we make way too much of the scouting combined.
I know if you're a scout, if you're preparing for a draft, you have to do it.
But the idea that Ruben Baines is worrisome to some teams because his arms are 33.9 inches
instead of 34.1 is just absurd to me and I think we glorify that.
It's the same way if you're running a 40-yard dash and in 4.39 instead of 4.41, it doesn't
make any difference.
It doesn't say whether or not you're a good player with a good future in the NFL and I
think we just aggrandize the combine and make too much of it.
I think it's overblown.
A couple of things here though.
It's not just that we need football coverage at a slow time and any amount of football is
an amount of football that people tend to want.
If you're making investments, giant investments that are largely unscientific because so much
of this is subjective and the combination of many, many players are separated in that
sport by literal inches.
The difference when a play is called perfectly and I have 10 guys trying to block 11 defenders
and what I need is my running back to be able to hit that corner with a step of speed that
is faster than the cornerback who can get there when that's what you're doing and it's
the investment of your life as scouts or general managers and your future is involved in getting
that right.
Don't you want to play probabilities there with literal inches?
Yeah, but we're not dealing with a step of speed.
A step of speed is a long, that's major.
We're dealing with a blur of speed.
If you run 438 as opposed to 441, that means you're getting to the finish line about that
much slower.
But it's a huge difference.
It's the difference between you getting drafted in the first round as a cornerback and not
the fact that you're putting something, you're putting out a time that's in the four
twos.
Yeah.
Well, how offensive lineman make up for speed off the edge is with their wingspan and once
you engage in a block, wingspan does matter.
It's a data point.
Look, Ruben Baines picked on guys that are a little undersized in the ACC, but he's also
gone at six foot six Blake Miller from Clemson, who's going to be a top first or second round
pick and put out his worst tape against Ruben Bane.
I'm not saying it's not important because it is.
It's impactful making your decision, but there's going to be tape in which a guy who's
bigger with longer arms can kind of contain him on the edge, but that's what he has a motor
that doesn't stop in the running game.
He can make an impact there and it's not like wingspan is the key to stopping Ruben Bane
because he can go out those guys too.
I agree that the quantifiable are valuable information to the teams and the scouts preparing
for a draft.
I don't think they're particularly interesting from a fan standpoint and I think the media
overcovers it and I disagree with you when you say it's a slow time of year.
We're coming to the NHL and NBA playoffs.
MLS has just started.
We just finished with the...
Greg, that's right.
I'm a luscious.
They're about to start.
They haven't gotten...
The stakes games haven't started yet.
World baseball classic.
I mean, there's a lot going on that shouldn't rivet our attention to Indianapolis watching
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Just to get back to the Rubin Bane thing for a moment.
When we're talking about fractions, when we're talking about inches, when the consensus
seems to be that Jeremiah Love is the best player in the draft, but he plays a disposable
position.
Rubin Bane does something.
He's saying, I'm the best player in the draft.
It's the most interesting thing I've heard him say I know a lot of guys say it.
He's saying, I'm the best player in the draft, but he's doing it at a position that's
more valuable than the one Jeremiah Love plays.
And I understand that we have to get into critiques that are very minuscule when you're
talking about some of these guys in the top 10.
But how many things, given that this isn't a great quarterback draft, how many things
are more valuable than pass rush in football?
Cover corners right there with it.
I don't think it's worth valuable, but it's right there.
I don't think, if you tell me, I just saw what Seattle did, and Seattle just did it with
a player that previously would have been in that conversation with James Hardin on guy
you don't trust in the playoffs.
Just eliminated Sam Darnold from that entire conversation in a game that he played fine
in, but not great because pass rushes, it's the most valuable thing.
Michael Lewis wrote the blind side and wrote the science of, this is how the left tackle
became the most valuable thing because it protects the most valuable thing.
But if it's a weak quarterback draft and what I have is something that can blow up your
left tackle, like that's the, there is nothing more valuable that you can give me in football
than a guy who can do that.
And I don't care that his arms are shorter than the next guys.
I saw what that guy looked like in college, and the University of Miami has had very few
of those throughout their history, somebody who can get back there no matter what.
The one thing I will tell you, and because I had this conversation with like draft analyst
from ESPN over the last week about Rubin Bain, I know what I saw with Rubin Bain.
I would love for him to play for the dolphins, be amazing if the dolphins were able to
select him at number 11.
But I do think there is something interesting about the fact Rubin Bain's arm length is
under 31 inches, okay?
And in the history of the national football league, there has never been a player with 31
inch or less arms who has had a season with double digit sex.
So you're essentially asking yourself of all the players in history of the NFL is this
one.
Is he going to be the guy that is different from all of that?
And I think that's interesting to consider.
Yes, I'm willing to bet on it because the same things that are being talked about Rubin Bain
right now are the same reasons he wasn't given a full five stars in high school.
And when Rubin Bain came in, the Memorial Crystal Ball said, this guy is essential to what
it is that we're doing.
Everybody wanted to see Rubin Bain at Green Tree against, look who he's going up against
in practice.
A top three pick, a guy that's got an NFL body type and you see him perform against
guys with NFL body types all the time in Coral Gables.
Rubin Bain does well.
So I think that translates.
If he can do it against our old line in practice, he can do it at the NFL level.
But what Zaz is saying here, and I think this part is fair, if your job depends on it
and you've got to hit on a top 10 pick because you can't miss on those.
Like it'll, it'll set you back in your employment to miss on those.
You're asking Rubin Bain to physically be an unprecedented failure.
Is he going to be something we have never seen before?
Man, he will.
So far so good.
He has been.
But you have the part of the conversation that's interesting to me, right?
And I do this all the time with coaches, right?
The reason Mik Kronin is the way that he is is because he's a control freak who doesn't
actually have that much control once it is everyone starts playing.
And it's got to be exasperating.
It's got to affect your mental health and your happiness to be a coach who's a control
freak and you have control over 10% of the stuff when it happens.
You can call timeouts to just stop things from happening to you that are out of your control.
Your job depends on getting this right.
It's not a science.
It's subjective.
There are a thousand things that can make a player a failure, a quitter, and one of them
before now has not been arm length.
Like that.
I've heard about hands in the scouting combined.
This is the first time that Aaron Donald was a famous case study, Dan.
And Aaron Donald did a lot of things that Ruben Bain can do, which is if you're one of
those guys that doesn't exactly have the measurables, you need to dominate.
The tape needs to speak for it and you need to be versatile.
You need to be good against the run.
You can't just be a past Russia.
You need to be able to have some play some versatility to you where they can put you
anywhere along the line to maximize what it is that you're bringing to the table.
Aaron Donald did that.
I think Ruben Bain does that.
Not to the level.
I'm not saying he's Aaron Donald.
Aaron Donalds may legitimately be one of the greatest football players I've ever seen
if not the greatest at his job.
That's a hell of a comp.
But he does so many, so many different things on the field and he's so good against the
run that I think it's fine.
You're doing Aaron Donald arm length.
It was the squatty size in general of Aaron Donald that I remember that he's a bit, that
he's just not.
He wasn't a prototype.
He was understandably large as you would want for somebody who needs to be a run stuff.
Look, there are precious few.
I don't know.
You guys tell me how often you've seen this because when I talk about the University
of Miami and past Russia, it's not edge rushers that I go to.
It's Cortez, Kennedy, and Warren Sap because of how much holy shit there was for me and
how are those guys getting right through the middle of all the double teams to always
be in the backfield?
I have seen very few college players who are getting sacks from the defensive tackle
position.
That's sort of, if you're under size there, I understand the questions, but getting
around the edge is an entirely different thing and I have never, honestly, before now,
I have never considered the idea that an edge rushers arms would be too short.
Not any of the good ones I've seen.
It's not, this is the first time I'm ever hearing this about somebody I know is going
to be a good pro because nobody can block him when he's loaded the ground on edge leverage.
And I have a question to that point and I don't know the answer to it.
How long have we been measuring arm length seriously at the combine because what I have
a feeling is I have a feeling there are dozens of Hall of Fame lineman offensive and defensively
in the Hall of Fame who had short arms.
You have just brought up a subject that no one can answer here because none of us can
possibly know what it is that you're saying.
You've thrown dozens out there.
You could have gone hundreds.
You could have gone to.
You have no idea how many short armed Hall of Fame offensive lineman.
I know what I know.
I think, thank you.
I think dozens hit it right in the middle.
If I said hundreds, it would have been gross hyperbole.
I recall Elvis Dumerville and the discussion around his size and it was actually the other
thing.
This guy is super under size.
How is he so effective?
And it's because his wingspan was so huge.
It really helped him put out one of the great gadget guys off the edge.
This guy is just a past rushing demon, ever.
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I think, when I think arms in the NFL for some reason, I think of Alonzo Spellman.
And it's, it's the size of his arms because I, they're, they're long, but they were also
the most muscular of arms and now we've lost our way.
As we've spent a good, we could, good 15 minutes talking about the length of arms off
of Greg Cody's complaint that he doesn't like the scouting comment.
Yeah.
I mean, I hear your argument.
If, if it's your job to nail a pick, like, do you take the chance there?
Well, then I ask you the same question.
If you have to bet, is Rubin Bain going to be good at professional football?
I, I'd bank on him.
I, I understand it's a bit of an outlier, but his entire career has been an outlier,
and he's done it against incredible competition very recently.
Where are you guys, though, on Jeremiah Love?
Like this is an athlete of athletes, right?
Stands out, jumps over people all the time, probably needs to stop doing that.
He's going to get hurt, but I don't take a running back high.
Like that, that day is done.
Why would, why would anybody be taking a running back high?
I think you do.
If you feel like you don't have the holes that you can afford to take this because I
do think he's a special player, despite only running for 33 yards against Miami.
I, I really rate the player.
I think he's fantastic, and if you don't have holes or you need another weapon,
Kansas City is one of these rumored teams that would see him as a fit.
I actually like them doing that there.
I'm not one of these people that are just flatly, you don't draft a running back.
I think context matters.
But everybody's saying that's the best football player in this draft.
Like that, and, and he's not going to be taken first.
Like I don't know where, I don't know where he's going to be taken because what's
happened in that sport at that position is a bit stupifying to me where they've
replaced the running game with the passing game and made the running back not have value
anymore.
And so where is he being projected to go?
Where is Jeremiah?
Top 12.
I think he's going to do a dolphins.
They won't, they have a chance, but they have a chance.
I don't think that's a fit, and they have plenty of holes.
Like again, it's, it's a luxury to take them that high.
Yeah, I'm not going to have to draft your milk, Kuiper, milk Kuiper.
Did you beat him in exactly, did you, did you beat him in exactly those last year?
I think I did.
You think you did or did you?
I'm pretty sure I did.
Have you, I'm pretty sure I did, been a minute since the last draft.
So I'm not positive, but he hasn't gone number nine.
And, and you're right, that talent at a different position would definitely be top five.
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Don Lebatard.
Baker Mayfield tearing up Tampa Bay 38 for 45.
Two cats.
Shreddom.
This is the Don Lebatard show with this two cats.
There is no position in the sport that has lost more value than that one, correct?
When we talk about how it is that people are paid, when you talk about the salary cap
and the fact that all of these guys, all of the people who are running these teams are
looking for the advantages in whatever small place it is that they can find them.
These tiniest of places where again, it's all so subjective, like none of it is science.
Do you guys believe, I mean, I am genuinely curious about this for all the things that we assign.
Obviously, the Eagles and Seattle do a good job with the selecting of players.
But do you guys believe that when they look at players, they're seeing something that
Pete Carroll doesn't see, that the game has moved past wherever it is that Pete Carroll
can have an advantage because he's seeing something that a player can become.
Do you guys really believe that once you get to the level of where these people are who
are selecting players, that maybe they see stuff that we don't see, but you think that
they see all sorts of stuff that the next guy doesn't see who's picking a team?
I think in general, there's dumb people at all levels and we're seeing that with even
Judges favorite team and Brandon Bean, like he's made a lot of really bad mistakes and
he's still getting promoted.
So if you're looking at arm length as your differentiator, like I don't trust you really
anyway, like are you really watching the tape?
I mean, we see how he Roseman does and I don't think he's looking at that.
I think he's looking at whether this is a prospect that I think will fit into our system
that is a defensive monster and can get after the quarterback.
I just really think that if that's the minutiae you're going on, you're already fucked.
And with your Pete Carroll point, once you hit your wagon to Gino Smith after we've already
left Seattle and now you bring him to LA Las Vegas, I think I might know who could
be better at that position than you do, be it bro.
Tristan, say it again.
I think you might be.
You know what?
I'm anxious.
Miner penalty, two minutes, personal foul, personal and foul.
Ron McGill is going to finally be on with us tomorrow to talk about his retirement and
Ron McGill for a while now has been telling us that the reputation that sharks have is unfair.
I think the reputation that sharks have is created absolutely by the movie jaws.
That is something that had a cultural impact in America that was enduring.
I think it still ranks as the number one horror movie ever made.
I told you guys recently that I saw a good documentary on prime about the making of jaws
that had all sorts of fascinating facts in it, including that Steven Spielberg's career
almost ended right there because of the number of panic attacks that he was having because
he wildly underestimated how hard it would be to make a movie on water.
This show stands on sharks as well noted and I'm assuming you and Ron McGill are both on
the take from Big Shark because I've never heard a show that's got so many good things
and so many excuses for these killing machines.
Ridiculous.
These monsters underneath the water who they're going to kill you if they get close to
you and you're trying to tell me to get a bad rap because of a movie they're talking
about.
You go surfing.
You come out, you'll also limb.
No, that's it.
There are many things that happen.
I've seen that happen.
No, that's the half.
That's happened.
That is a thing.
You've seen it happen.
People get bit all the time.
They're monsters.
It's a mistake.
The shark is making a mistake and there are many more surfers who are surfing who are
not getting their limbs lost to a shark than there are.
Maybe the first bite's a mistake, but what happens when they keep on?
Yeah.
It's a big shark then.
Where are you in the prequel to jaws that you are reading slash listening to?
Ooh, it's a prequel.
Yeah, so I'm fascinated by this.
It's someone that loves taking an established property and seeing like what talented writers
can do with that.
And this leads me to another topic, a conversation which is heat too.
But I did not know this.
Steven Spielberg was off the success of jaws.
He was pressed by the studio to make a sequel, naturally.
And he didn't want to make a chronological sequel like ended up happening.
People just wanted to see the killer shark kill again.
He wanted to do an origin story that was a prequel for one of the characters, Quint.
In that movie, famously survived the sinking, which was a real thing, even though big shark
doesn't want you to know about it, the sinking of the USS Indianapolis in the Pacific,
in which several, this is a real thing that happened.
Nicholas Cage was in a movie about it.
They got eaten alive.
Why sharks?
So we're all still doing those sharks getting a bad rap then?
Killer sharks.
It was very clear to the sharks in the Pacific that these were human beings and not the normal
type of food.
And they were just hanging around, picking them off.
This book is unbelievable.
Now it comes out with like the USS Indianapolis and then it tells a story.
So you kind of have this early crescendo, but it is incredibly vivid and terrifying when
you're reading it with your ears.
It puts you there.
And I would actually really like to see this movie and I thought it was an incredible
concept.
And Steven Spielberg, actually, I wish he were empowered to actually do it back then.
He maybe didn't have the juice to be like, I'm not going to do your normal sequel thing
of going in order.
Let's focus on this incredible character.
I thought it was going to be a prequel on the origin story of the shark.
The shark, baby shark.
The shark and jaws was cartoonishly large.
Like in the wild, you rarely, if ever see a shark, big enough to swallow.
It didn't work though.
It was really funny when they started filming that.
It would just end up coming out of the water, ask first, like, tail, look at that.
Yeah.
I mean, respectfully, I don't see you doing a lot of work in the out of Guadalupe.
Okay.
Those things are monsters.
All right.
Give me a second.
Last shark.
That reputation is deserved in the man.
Well, let me tell you something about sharks.
Okay.
Put his drink down.
The shark is like a nurse shark, like five, six feet.
If you run into a shark in the wild and you give it a punch in the nose, the shark will
turn tail and run a punch in the nose.
You have to be in McGill will back me up on this now.
If a porpoise, a porpoise moves like a torpedo through the ocean, I would rather confront
a shark than be hit head on by a bulletin, a bulletin, a bulletin, a porpoise.
I mean, I would just tell lies.
No.
No, that's not true.
It's absolutely true.
This is terrible advice.
Please do not follow it.
Let's put you in the open water, and I would love to see your reaction to a porpoise
swimming alongside you and a shark, and let's see how your big shark apology tour goes
then.
We're going to put Zaz in a Waymo to a strip club and my dad in the ocean.
Okay.
The porpoise, in my scenario, is bulletin toward me, like a torpedo, whereas the shark,
which doesn't move as quickly as a porpoise, if that comes to you, and then the dinosaurs
of the sea, like the audio audience, he's holding out a boxing motion.
Yes.
I'm saying it's a five or six.
Have you ever seen Flipper?
If there is a bottle nose dolphin going that fast towards you, it's probably because there's
a shark behind you and it's trying to protect you.
Why are you making sound effects for your porpoises so that you can hear the speed of his
fists cutting through the wind?
Porpoises are only a problem if you have your period.
Everyone knows this.
Well, they are attracted to blood.
I'll give you that.
And the water cast like a slide.
You can't really see what you're like.
You punch there and the shark is slightly there.
So what happens when the shark grabs your calf first?
Okay.
Do you still punch?
You know what the brave men of the USS Indianapolis tried plenty?
Punch in the sharks.
You've taken the sharks.
Do you bring up a good point because everybody knows that the punch underwater is not as
quick.
It's like.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
It doesn't move as quickly.
It agrees with you.
Yes.
That's what it sounds like.
Are you guys surprised as I always am, okay?
Whenever I'm looking through the movies, the trailers, there's always a new shark movie.
And I just really thought we got it right 50 years ago and we didn't need to do more
shark genre movies.
But there's always a new one.
Did you see that the director of Deep Lucie is coming out with another shark movie that
may not, that I don't think is at all related to Deep Lucie.
It's about a plane.
And this one's been done before.
But I guess this one has a higher budget because I think Ben Kingsley was in the trailer.
It's a plane that crashes and then it gets sworn by sharks.
Yeah.
I did see that.
That's one of the movies I was talking about when I'm flipping through the, I'm looking
for something to watch.
And I'm like, they can't still be making.
Like they need to just stop with the shark movie.
No.
People are fascinated with it because they're evil killing machines.
Yeah.
You got to see the Meg.
Yeah.
I mean, that shark looks like Godzilla the Meg.
You know what?
You know what?
Never happens in these shark movies.
Ever.
The shark just swims by and does nothing.
Right.
Oh, my bad.
I thought you were, you know, some bloated whale carcass.
Mayacopa.
That's not something that happens in these movies.
Jason Statham fights the shark in the Meg.
All right.
So just to be clear, for those of you who don't know or understand what it is, his enthusiasm
is just to be clear.
What you're advocating for is a movie in which Jason Statham on a jet ski goes and
fights a giant shark also runs on a dock as the shark just keeps, keeps, he's running on
a dock as the shark right behind him is knocking out pieces of wood.
And at the end, Jason Statham wins.
Dan, Dan, the ocean turns into chaos when the mining operation forces them into a battle
for survival, facing off against megalodons and relentless environmental marauders.
How can no one's ever said anything about this bucket hat today?
I just have been wondering for hours.
It looks like a baby bonnet.
This hat that he's wearing, okay.
So I had a friend of mine in California, he, oh my God, I'm going to go to such lengths
here now that you've mentioned this hat, but baby bonnet, that's a good, that's a good
call.
A great hat with a great sponsor.
Yes, that is correct.
All of what it is, you have said is correct, and I'm going to walk my position back now
that you have said that because I had a good, you didn't even need me there, bike was on
it.
So we're welcome to back, I'll take it back when we were, Zazlow, you think you scared
of the Meg?
Let me introduce you to a tornado full of sharks.
Yes.
Did you think those sharks had an undeserved reputation?
The ones in Sharknado?
Yeah.
Yes, I do believe that we have done to the shark through film something that is wildly
unfair, including in that Nicholas Cage movie about the USS Indianapolis.
Pottle.
Kick.
Punch.
You mentioned heat too, I didn't know there was going to be a heat too.
Yeah, because there was a book heat too that was written by Michael Mann.
So you can trust the guy that wrote the original with the source material.
And people who haven't read the book just assume this is going to be a sequel.
And then they're corrected.
No, no, no, it's a prequel.
And those people have it wrong.
Dan, it's both.
All right.
Different timelines?
Yes.
It.
At one point in the story, well, the way it tells three story simultaneously, Val Kilmer's
character, that's after the events of the heat movie.
All right.
Bale with Danero and I don't know who Bale is playing that Christian Bale is in heat
too.
Yeah, he's the caprio.
I think is going to play Pacino's character.
I've always heard Adam Driver was linked to Danero's character.
Maybe that's changed.
Although I think Bale is older than Danero was when he did heat one.
So I don't know how he's going to play young Danero, but we go into Danero's past.
We go into Pacino's past and we stay with the future with Val Kilmer.
However, Pacino's character catches up because there is a foil from Pacino's past that
ends up being a foil for Bale Kilmer's character too.
I'm not going to give away the spoilers and the big crescendo there, but it is a fascinating
story in that it is both a prequel and a sequel.
I'm into it.
You guys know, right?
And there was no mention of this in this and the original heat, but Pacino was playing
a character that was supposed to be addicted to cocaine, right?
I don't know.
I'm not sure how anybody didn't catch on to that.
He said that as if he said, I got a wopper for you.
He's got a great ass.
My character, this may come as a shock, was on cocaine.
It was pretty evident.
Hank Azaria has told us that that particular scene, which Hank Azaria was under Pacino as
he yelled.
She's got a great ass.
He was legitimately scared and they used the take that he didn't think they were going
to use because he was surprised by how aggressive Pacino was.
There was a great video because that's become a funny line because of what's happened
without Pacino.
There was a boot like VHS of an old school like Pirate in the theater and the crowd loved
it and laughed their asses off when he delivered that line.
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