Hour 2 – Kyle Whittingham, Kyle Long

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4:07But still came out of the tunnel and oh my goodness. Didn't think he would make it, but Todd after surgery, life threatening surgery is here today. Dylan in the back row, Marv up front with Paulie. He was truly and the back room guys as well. Are they Dylan? Well, I got bad news for you, Dan. According to 72% of people, they think Todd just had a procedure. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Put him under when there's an anesthesia involved. Todd actually thought that was the name of the nurse. Hey. Wait, is your last name is Stesia? There's Annabelle Stesia. Annabelle Stesia. Annabelle Stesia. Oh, Annabelle Stesia. Hi, Anna. How are you? Todd did Google the nurse who took care of him, by the way. I just want to say thank you for all of the first service of course. You didn't want to thank the doctor who actually did the surgery on you. Yeah, he's just you know, he's just there doing his part. Yes, Paul. Todd's going to consider a malpractice lawsuit just to talk to her again. What do we have Dylan?

5:08Do you think that's the first Google of a nurse ever? Because I'm sure doctors get Googled all the time. That genuinely might be the first instance. Not by Todd, I don't think, by someone else. There was an assistant. She was an a nurse, but she worked with the doctor who gave me the replacement knee. And she, she when she was in the room, you knew she was in the room. But I remember when she was taken out my surgery, she goes, I love doing this. She's taken out the stitches. I'm like, oh, all right. You love doing this. All right, 8773DP show email address, dpadampatric.com, Twitter handle at D.P. show, the head coach at Michigan, Kyle Winningham still sounds strange to say that coach after all those years at Utah. Do you have any Utah gear left over? There's probably something back in Utah somewhere in my house back there, but I would take me a minute to locate it.

6:08All right, so how prepared are you for this moment? Well, as shoot as prepared as we could possibly be, I mean, we got three more days of practice. We certainly need every one of them, but we've had a really good fall camp, made a ton of progress. And eager to play somebody else, you know, we've been beating on ourselves for eight months now. And so it's going to be good to find out what we got on Saturday. But the expectation level, now Utah wanted you to win, Michigan wants you to win. Do you feel any different with the expectations from the fans of what they're hoping for? No, I don't believe so. I mean, you know, in both places, you're hoping for conference championships and then whatever you can accomplish beyond that. But, you know, I've said it before, it doesn't matter what level you're coaching at high school, college, NFL. I mean, wherever you are, you're all in. And if you're all in and you're, and you've, you know, given it everything you got, then you have the same burning desire to win as anybody else.

7:10Why did you feel the need to clarify your comments about Ohio State? Well, I didn't feel the need to clarify. They were asked about it. You know, people ask about it. And I, you know, just answer questions. Okay. So from the first comments to the second, like people want, when I hear you say you hate Ohio State, right? I guess that's what they want. I don't know. I want to beat him as bad as anybody worse, probably worse. And that's how about this? I guess we could hate him on one day a year. How about that? Yeah, but, you know, I said, and I grew up in Ohio, I said, give him a break. You know, you can know about this rivalry. It'd be like if somebody went and said, oh, you're at Utah, you got to hate BYU. And you just came there. You're like, all right, let me live this first a little bit here. So I don't know if there's a tutorial on how to strongly dislike a team. Yeah, to me, it's got to happen organically. And you know, it's tough to manufacture that.

8:13And so, but just the competitive nature of the game, I mean, it's the rivalry game in the, you know, the premier rivalry game in the country. And it, you know, that's, you know, everybody knows that. I'm fully aware of that. And by no means, I'm trying to downplay the game of the game is huge. I mean, it's a huge game year in and year out. All you got to do is win. You can hate them. And if you don't beat him, nobody's going to give you credit for, well, at least you hate them, coach. Exactly. Good point. Yeah. Help me understand where you stood with NFL players coming back to college. I know that, you know, all the conferences are kind of in sync on this. But did you ever think we'd get to a situation like this where somebody leaves college, goes to the pros, puts on a uniform or two, and then comes back? Did not foresee that at all. And that's something that, but, but any, you know, in this day and age, anything that happens to cause football shit and comes to surprise me. We're so all over the, we're so all over the place with everything that, that I guess anything's possible.

9:17Okay. How did we get here with just no, there's no singular voice. There's no lifeguard on duty in the deep end here, coach. Exactly. And that's, that's the problem. I mean, you look at the NFL, which is in my opinion, the best run sports organization in the world. And you've got a, you know, a great structure and a commissioner that lays down the law. And if you cross that line, you've paced of your penalties. And I think that's what we got to get to in college football. We've got to get to some sort of NFL minor league model. I've said that many, many times. Why wouldn't you pattern yourself after the best to ever do it? Kyle Wittingham, Michigan head football coach, beginning the season this Saturday, Western Michigan, next Saturday, you welcome in Oklahoma to Ann Arbor. There was a story in the Salt Lake Tribune a couple of days ago. Some former players accused you and your staff of mishandling injuries. I'd want to give you a chance to address this.

10:17Never in my career have I ever tried to sway influence whatever the word is our medical staff. You know, wherever I've been. We listen to the medical staff. If they say players available, we go with that. And if they say he's not available, we go with that. So I'm not sure where this came from or what the, you know, what the, you know, just how whatever materialized, but never in my career have we ever crossed the line of trying to override a medical decision by our medical staff. Could you have stated you taught if you wanted to? I believe that's probably what have been in the cards. I think I think if it really push came to shove and you know, I've two years left on my contract and and but you know, I've always been the type of guy. Don't worry how to welcome it. I felt like that that was starting to happen and and you know, overstaying your you're welcome to something that I made a conscious decision not to do several years ago.

11:21When I, you know, and you know, you just don't want to stay somewhere too long. Maybe I did stay too long as it was. I don't know, but but I'm grateful for the situation. I'm in now and couldn't be, you know, happier with what's going on here. I feel like mutual mutual parting. Is that fair to say? That's probably on some people's part back there. Yeah, I'd say, I'd say, you know, depending who you talk to. How good do you know how good your team can be right now? That's a good question. I don't know if anyone in the country knows how good their team can be because you've been, you know, he'd be playing against each other. And if you struggle moving the balls because you're lousy on offense or is it because your defense is outstanding and vice versa. And so you never really get a good gauge completely until you line up and play somebody, but you can certainly see talent and positions that really are, you know, special. And so I think you got to, you got some more of an idea, but you don't know for sure until you line up and get to get someone to play against and get a barometer to measure yourself against.

12:23What's the coolest thing in your office? I'm a cool thing in my office. Why do you pictures of my grandkids? They're all around here somewhere, but somebody gave me this. Oh, I can't show you. There's a really cool. I am that lights up that's got like lightning bolts throughout it and really cool. It's pretty good size and you can change the colors and all that stuff. So anything mean you want to know. How cool stuff is you know, I do have some great stuff in here. I think the one. Do I have a Michigan helmet in here? I got all kinds of helmets in here. Do I? We don't have one. I don't think I have. Let's get you one. We'll get you one. Oh, no, no, no, no, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Just want to let you go. Coach, we'll just keep each other company. Yeah, okay. Yes. There you go. Dan, there you go. I don't have an Ohio State helmet in here. Oh, that's good news. That's that's it. Yeah. I like to hear that. And I think this came from who was the wide receiver who played for the Giants who played money tumor? Yes.

13:30I think I'm on a tumor. Gami is helmet here. Coach. I think it's a keeper. Yeah, it's autographed here. That's the old school byckelman. Yeah. Yeah. And then you got the stickers here. Uh huh. Yeah. We still have that tradition. What do the stickers mean? If I? All different things. Yeah. Somehow the area code of the player or he's from big wins, big plays in games. I mean, it's got all kinds of different things on those stickers. What if I go to class? Do I get a sticker? Like little things like that. That used to matter back in our day. Well, it still matters. Okay. That matters to me anyways. And you know, graduating players is number one on the list and winning games is number two. That's that's how it always functioned. Do you want to say anything mean about Ryan Day before we say goodbye? Say anything mean? No. We'll see him. We'll see the last game of the season about that. Wow. That's bulletin board material right there. Don't beat me. Yeah. Good to talk to you. Good luck this weekend. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. That's bio-winning. Yeah. I don't have. I was staying home.

14:37But this is a real helmet. This is one of those heavy suckers. I could walk around and try to convince people I played for Michigan just like that guy with the 49ers. You imagine a guy is on the beach running past patterns with his Niners helmet on trying to convince the ladies that he played for the Niners. And he scammed these women out of over a million dollars. They thought that he was a professional football player. Yes, boy. Are you spending scamming the Niners for two years so this guy is not even close. Wow. Yeah. The story that I saw salt like Tribune. I know it's a big deal local. I have to ask just to have coach on record of talking about it. Or having him on and then not at least asking him about it. But it had to do with a handful of players who it felt like they were saying Kyle was old school and that he wanted you to play through injuries or maybe forced players to play through injuries.

15:42And once again, I'm paraphrasing. I read the article this morning and felt the need that I should at least ask him. And when I said the need to clarify his comments about Ohio State. He initially said something about Ohio State. And it was kind of lukewarm for the Michigan fans like win-win. You got a hate Ohio State. Why just got there. And if he came in on fire and that he hated Ohio State, then I don't know. You might sound like Brian Kelly at LSU. No, just like no, no. You know, I know the significance of the game. And believe me, once we get to that point, I'll be ready to go. Like, you know, you can't wait to beat him. You can hate him. I'd rather you beat him. You could even say, look, I respect Ohio State and Ryan Day. Yeah. And I'm glad we beat them again. If I'm a Michigan fan, I'm fine with that. I don't want the guy. Brady Hoke may have hated Ohio State. Did he beat him? He didn't even have his headset plugged in. Poor Brady. He was a nice guy.

16:52How did I get that comment about him saying not God. Oh, did I say something about how do you like your chances against Ohio State? I think it was a similar question. How do you feel about your team this year? And he was like, not any cross himself up. And he said, good. Oh, I think. Well, we'll deep dive it. Yeah, I forget. I thought it had something to do with Ohio State. And he said, not good. That's fun. Yes, Dylan. I didn't realize that that's where that came from. Yeah, Brady Hoke. Yes, he weakened climate. By the way, Labor Day weekend on NBC, you got baseball. You got a double header. It'll be Braves, Philly Sunday, Twin Swipe socks Monday, Cardinals, Giants, Labor Day weekend on NBC and Peacock. All right. We'll take a break. Phone calls coming up, settle on a poll question for hour two. We're back after this.

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24:16And that's when Brady Hoke said, not good. Pretty spot on. It's so it's just an honest answer. It's so good. Not good. We'll get phone calls coming up. Luke Kekeley, Hall of Famer. We'll join us coming up next hour. He's Kyle Long, CBS Sports NFL today, studio analyst. Big tough guy here. Good to see you again. How would you have done against your dad if you had to block your dad in his prime? Oh boy, I would have brought help. That's the good thing about playing offensive line. I would have taken my licks though. He was pretty violent with his hands. You got to be aware of the get off. You got to be aware of the one, two club rip inside. I would imagine is on the menu. And then that Reggie White patent at Home Move is probably the main course. When did you, I guess realize you could take your dad like you if you're wrestling, they're having so I'm still waiting there.

25:22I'm still waiting. It's funny. There's that inverse relationship of the ability to whip your dad's ass and then your willingness or want to whip his ass. It's like as you get older, you could. But it's just like why would I do that? Look at he's making he's making a blueberry shake for my my my daughter. Why would I want to get him now? Yeah, but I don't know. It's like you play one on one with your dad playing basketball. I think he was aware probably when I was 16 that I could do some things physically that might have put him in jeopardy at the time. No, I couldn't do the math on how old he was, but you know, probably around 16, 17. So I started to realize and molder brother Chris started to keep his distance probably. I'll bet the fights though. I mean, your mom had to go. I got to replace that end table or that chair, that couch. Yes, she was dealing with riot control, track control far before it became invoked in American society.

26:26All right, let me give you the full introduction. First round pick, 20th overall pick by the Bears joining us on behalf of generation fine.com. We'll talk about that because I love what you're doing with this at this point in the preseason. Do you know what kind of team you had going into week one when you were playing? I think that the good things about your roster are always you have a higher expectation for and the bad things you say this is going to be our kill is this going to kill us. And then you end up somewhere in the middle. I mean, it always ends up being a one score game, Dan. It always hits like can you get the third and one conversion. That's really what it comes down to. And I think, you know, if I look at the bears, for example, people are really keen on the bears offense of Ben Johnson says he's going to set an NFL record for points per game. And that's all well and good, but he knows that has to be the case because they've got injuries on the back end. They've got question marks upfront. They've got guys getting paid a lot of money that haven't produced the way that they expect.

27:29And bear stands are hoping that this thing lands somewhere in the middle. Yeah, and trying to handicap the NFC North now, no green Bay has got some issues. Certainly Josh Jacobs out. Michael Parsons not back for a little while. The Vikings defense is going to keep them in games. It feels like. And then you got the lions that we kind of forgot about. So if you were going to go one through four. If I were to go one through four, I would say the two teams holding hands at the top of the totem poles, the packers in the bears. And I think the lions are right there when they hand on one of their ankles. And who the hell knows who the Vikings are going to be to your point that defense can carry a football team Kevin O'Connell is a brilliant coach. And if Kyler Murray can be Kyler Murray, there's a lot of people who are going to be in trouble. There's a lot of people in Vegas who are either going to look like brilliant or idiots. In fact, I think that if Kyler Murray can figure out how to press the circle button, which is Justin Jefferson on his Xbox controller, he's had to find great success in that division.

28:36And it's going to be close games and who can who can guard who in a two minute really that's who it comes down to. I've asked former offensive lineman, even current ones blocking for a scramble or blocking for a passing quarterback. What would you have preferred? Well, it really does depend. So like if I got a guy like let's say I'm blocking for Patrick Mahomes, you understand what the play is drawn up to be. And you understand where the launch point is where he's going to throw it from and what the action is leading up to it. What we're trying to influence the defense to do. What you can account for is the great things that are going to happen after that three second timer goes off when Patrick goes Picasso on the defense. There are long series to having guys like that because they can get out of harm's way on their own. Now the ask becomes greater for an offensive lineman because your clock goes from four seconds to maybe eight seconds if you're running around there behind the line of scrimmage.

29:38You get a guy who's a pocket passer. Your job becomes very easy. If I if I blocked for Matt Ryan easy in terms of predictability. Dan none of it's easy, but the balls out the ball is out go watch the mic dust of these defensive lineman rushing against these statuess pocket passers where the balls out. They are frustrated beyond belief because there is no move that they can do the wins. How would you test Aaron Donald now coming back after a couple of years? Well, I would lean heavily on double teaming in the run game and reminding him of what kind of game he's stepping back into. I'm not saying in any way that Aaron is not going to come back and dominate, but if I'm an OC, I'm going to put four hands on him to helmets and a couple thigh boards and we're going to run the football with that game plan. And then when we have to throw the football, you continue to give him that action.

30:39You do not let him take the fight to the offensive line. He is as dominant in a passing situation as there's ever been. What did it feel like trying to block him? Well, luckily in the one year that we played the Rams, I played tackle. It felt like blocking a fire hydrant quite honestly. So I was coming down on the double team trying to find a spot in his hip area while my guard was praying and trying to get hands on him. And this was young Aaron Donald and I do remember he gave us fits and this was before he was AD 99, but I knew I had inside intel from that Rams locker room, my brother that they had drafted a future hallfamer like his first week in camp. Chris was like this guy is unbelievable. So when I was playing him, he was finding his way through the cracks. He was unbelievable at finding he was like water. He could get in between anything and he would look at you after the play. He looked at me one time and he said every time you looked out at me, pre snap, I know it's a double team.

31:43And I was like, you're not supposed to help me, bro. You're 20 years old and you're 5 foot 11. Go back to the little that I know. How did he fall where he fell to? I think for whatever reason, we were we were at the end of the stage of the phase where size mattered, right? Like you have to fit a certain archetype and Aaron Donald is an outlier, but it also opens the door for plenty of guys who are 5 11 to 50 to go terrorize guards on third down. The picture who throw all this Chapman, you know, there was a there was a place for him. He would come in and he would throw 103 and guys would know what to do with it. It's the same impact that one of these rush tackles can have on a guard. And I think about a guy like Willie Lampkin who was a center out of the University of North Carolina. He's 5 foot 10 deep. 5 foot 10, 290 pounds, but he is all as kick and grit. Okay. And he's on the Eagles roster. And he has been choking these giants out all summer long.

32:54Then he's a prime example of like you let a guy like that in the club. Now you got to let all the 5 11 games in the club. Okay. Do you miss hitting people? I miss high five in my teammates. You know, like I just miss being around the guys. This version of me does not hit it like miss hitting people. I loved it when I was that age because I was good at it. But now the things that I miss is, you know, sit next to the math forte and eat pancakes and get laughed at for 10 minutes and go into the training room and, you know, John Fox coming in and. Tell us a ridiculous story about his voting adventure that weekend or, you know, hanging out with the equipment guys and just hearing about the debauchery that happens in a 19 year old's life in Chicago. Tell me what you're doing with the generation fine generation fine. Okay. So this is a fantastic thing and like size matters going out the window.

33:55I think mental health mattering is coming into the house now because fine doesn't have to be a finish line so many times you get asked how you're doing. You sound good. I'm fine. Finds not the finish line. We can be way better than that. And there's ways to get there. Okay. There's tools resources information. You can visit visit generation dash fine.com. And you can find out why I'm partner with Johnson and Johnson and why this is so important to me because for so long, I thought that the things that I was feeling and for a lack of a better term depression at times would creep into my life as an athlete as a man as a father as a husband. And I didn't know what to do with the way that I was feeling. There are resources tools. You're not alone. There's so many more guys that you know that are dealing with something silently. I call it the silent battle. And you know we're here. We're waiting. It's like you know it's like that angel in the movies. You know where you see him in a couple scenes. You know like I've seen that person and go and then they show up at the end. They say the day what's like if you just stop and talk to that person when you saw him the first time and that person is that conversation about mental health and there's more people there to share your experience and their experience with you.

35:07Why do players did players feel the need to hide this? Well, I think I have a unique perspective on this growing up in a football house and a football a gladiatorial football house. You know one that was football proper. Okay like six weeks training camp two a days full pad type shit excuse my language. And I understood that what you show is what they know and what they know could get you killed and I'm I'm in the camp now of why not work on your mental health like you work on your front squat like you work on your hamstring stretches like you work on your cardio. It's it can be a weapon for you in the best way possible it's it's a light inside of you and you can make it brighter if you work on it if you recognize what you're going through. Yeah, I went through a dark period. I had an autoimmune that was affecting me and I didn't want to get out of bed and I my wife said why don't you share this on your show.

36:10Because if you share it then maybe it you know like goes on with somebody like he's he's willing to talk about that and it was painful to to reveal that that you go into that shell where you just don't want to do anything and so I mean it took a long time for me to get through it but I can certainly empathize with you know NFL players you're in your 30s or 40s and we've seen what happens with you. It happens with not only depression but everything else with CTE and I mean there's a there's a whole melting pot here of stuff that you you don't even know what's on the horizon so I I do appreciate you sharing this because I do think it's really important that we do talk about this instead of because you know what when I was growing up Kyle it was oh he's got mental illness. If you had depression there was something mentally wrong with you therefore you never said anything to anybody.

37:11Yeah and it's really a brave of you and I appreciate you speaking up on that and is this not just the damn best thing what a microcosm of what generation fine is all about it's like reach out dude there's a network of people that are you know whatever word you want to put in there and I really relate with your couldn't get out of bed. And I've been there before when I dealt with injury when I dealt with the stress and rigors of playing the national football league there have been moments where I have been literally stuck in place and I need somebody to come physically remove me and I know there's others out there and did if that's you listening on the other end and you feel in any way like like making your life better take a visit to generation dash find dot com. Good luck this season with the football with CBS big big promotion there moving up the ladder yeah having fun we got him fooled another year. My best year father and thanks again Kyle yeah thanks a lot see you guys soon it's Kyle long CBS he's part of the NFL today studio analyst and former Bears offensive lemon it's a generation fine dot com take a break we got phone calls coming up Luke Keekley who.

38:28Retired early in the NFL but Luke play eight years I think and you know went through concussions Kyle played eight years I buried I think that when I see players and it's weird to say this the better you are the more susceptible you are for CTE because you're going to keep playing keep playing three more years Aaron Donald coming back and I understand that. That if you say to those players would you do it differently most of them would say no because I provided for my family and that's where when somebody comes back like Aaron Donald I can only think he gets hit every single play or he's hitting somebody every single play. And you just had that study that came out that talked about the number of players that they examined in a 10 year period that it's it that it would be an epidemic level. In any other walk of life.

39:29We don't refer to that in the NFL so I'm I'm very cognizant of it very empathetic sympathetic and when somebody is willing to talk about depression. And if we can have them on the show then you know I hope that I'm helping you on the other end but you know 20 years ago I'm I may not have been able to grasp this or the number of sponsors who would be taking. Up this crusade or the players willing to come forward and I know Kyle has talked about this and I appreciate that well take a break phone calls coming up update our poll results were back after this Fox sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio dot com and within the I hard radio at search F S R to listen live. When I was 14 years old I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them.

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45:43No, I did that before. Wow, I go. I went in the preseason started. Todd, you have any idea? Big night at my house. Some kind of post wedding get together with everybody in the house? Another celebration? There's okay. You're at least on the topic of what's going to be the big night about. Yes, Marvin. Your wife and your wife, your daughter and new son-in-law are coming back to your house. No, no. Dylan? You guys are having tacos for dinner. What is Tuesday? We are going to open up the envelope of how much the wedding cost us. Because my wife said when we checked out of the hotel, she said, to the person behind the counter, just put it in envelope and seal it up. They said, you don't want to check the charges. My wife goes, nope. Just seal the envelope.

46:44We'll open it up at a later date. I've had a wedding before and I only saw some of the bills. But I thought most of it was scheduled and prepaid beforehand. Are you talking an ancillary things? Everything that's on the bill. Do you have an idea? No. You know what? I just said, I didn't want it to ruin my day. Where are you going? Wait a minute. How much that cost? Now I know there are certain things. We had a budget. We said to my daughter, you know, here's your budget. If you go over this, then you take the money out of your inheritance. Because I thought we want to let them get their inheritance before we die. So we know what you're going to do with your inheritance. I know. Dark. But yes, I was like, let her understand how much these things are costing. And she still blew through the stops on. But I said, okay. But you're going to spend your money after we give you a certain amount. We're opening up the envelope.

47:46The envelope, please. That's what we're opening up. And big night tonight. Because my wife said, what do you want to drink? And I said everything. Everything, huh? How about a couple of beers and then maybe some tequila? Yes, Paulie. We don't want to get into exact numbers. But if we were ballparking it, would it be like a year at a high end college? I don't even want to hint at what I think it could be. It's far more than one year at USC. Got it. Oh, yeah. Far more than one year of college, anywhere. Yes, Paulie. So is this a bad time to ask for my inheritance? You said four kids, four damnettes. Yeah. Because I, you know, when people say, oh, you're going to leave some money to your kids. And I wanted to see what they would do when they get to a certain age. And if they're not married, then they can get their inheritance.

48:46If you're married, then you can get your inheritance. And I said, well, why don't we see what they're going to do with? Instead of, you know, I'm gone. I don't know what's going on. So yeah, Dylan. You're not worried they could fake it for, you know, until you guys do pass and then just really turn the jets on. Then that's probably what I would say if they want to. I mean, it's up to them. I just said, you know, just be smart. You know, this is it. Yeah, Paulie. I saw an interview with the great actress, comedian, Julie Louise Dreyfus. And she grew up rich, like rich rich. And she said, I had a lot of rich friends and they went two ways. Do nothing or know that you could do anything because you got a place to live in a car and a backup plan. But if you're married or you get to 35, I'm assuming you already have. If we've done our job as parents, then we've taught you correctly of how to live, be, you know, good worker, you know, all of those things. It's not like, I think you get to 35 and you're going to go, let's go crazy.

49:48Or you get married and you go, yeah, let's spend lavishly. Yes, Paulie. I don't know a lot about Dylan's family, but Dylan kind of seems like a guy who's waiting around for his inheritance. I'm not going to let him. No, I only wish that were the case. I wouldn't be here. I'd be doing nothing. Really? You would leave? No, no, I wouldn't leave. I'm saying like, if I knew that there, if I knew in five years, there was a substantial sum of money coming my way. Yeah, I'd be coasting to 35. I think you've been more than now. This isn't hard to work. This is not coasting? Yes. Yes. You are a coaster. I've been known to do this. Like, that sounds like a slacker, but you're a coaster. Yeah. It feels like we just came up with a new term. Like, yeah, trust fund kid, you're a coaster, aren't you? It sounds nicer than slacker. And actually, employees are doing less.

50:48I know Todd isn't sitting on any inheritance from his mom. I'm not. No. I didn't. I think it cost me money when my dad died. And my mom died. There wasn't anything there. I remember going, man, I don't think mom has any, my dad died at 54. And I'm thinking, I wonder, do you have an inheritance? I found out quickly, he did not. We had to pay money. It's like, we got to pay for a grape's headstone here. Wait, what? Yes, Dylan. Hey, hey, with the old inheritance, Unova, reverse card, late in the game. And even my wife, her dad owned a pitceria in lower Manhattan. And I thought, all right, maybe he's got some money. Nope, he didn't, didn't have any money. But, you know, if you're not expecting it, you know,

51:50it's not like you're disappointed. It's when you go, man, I think dad was really raking it in. And all of a sudden you find out, no, no, he wasn't. He wasn't. Marvin, I know you don't have a treasure trove at the end of the rainbow. No, but the absence he, dad, you left me something. I know when you said it. And I was like, good for you. You deserve far more than that, but at least you got something from him. I mean, wait, he waited until I became somebody. I was like, I don't need it. I'll take it, but I was like, what about when I needed it? Yes, Paulie. When my dad passed away, we got a little money for college funds. There's like this lawsuit and stuff. And I remember it was like a decent amount of dough. I didn't know anything about money. But I couldn't get in any colleges that I could use that level of college fund for. I couldn't get into Berkeley or USC or Harvard. Well, there's reasons why you couldn't. Oh, I know. Believe it. I had the money, not the ability. Yes, Dylan. Well, Paul, did that then just become spendable cash for you or? I'd be proud of myself.

52:51I didn't blow it. I went to Southern Illinois University because it was less expensive. And I could get in, not necessarily in that order. And I left college with like 10 grand or something. And if you're starting a family, you have a young family, don't be afraid to have those conversations now of what you're going to give your kids. That will, when you go in there and draw up that will, that's tough day. Because everybody's kind of looking at me because when you die, because I'll die before my wife, and then you got to ask tough questions. Yes. Now, my wife will live to be a hundred. Why does you call take that one? No, my wife, my wife, lived to be a hundred. Dylan is in the box, the confessional. More cheery talk like this coming up in the final album of the program. Luke Kekeley, Hall of Famer, will stop by. More of your phone calls as well. Fritzi is here, a hero. Dylan, Marv, Paulie, Yours, Julie, and the BRGs. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman.

53:56I can wait four hours for the next bus, or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Pinero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I survived nine months in captivity, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the survivor files. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable, abducted, stalked, controlled, and merely silenced. These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with the Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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