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He hasn't told me what it is yet.

He's just told me he's had another one of these weird dreams.

So we'll get into that with the mean.

In a second, we're also going to get into this yogic dork

back and forth with the mean.

But I wanted to ask you guys something about the back and forth

between Kevin Durant and Tyler Hiroh.

So Tyler Hiroh calls Kevin Durant a whiny B word.

Kevin Durant calls Tyler Hiroh,

the P word and after they have done that,

the two of them say, we respect each other.

And I just don't think that in any other context

that I can think of, that exchange would happen

between two people who would then immediately

afterward say, we respect each other,

because that sounds disrespectful.

What are the other workplaces where two people would talk

to each other like that?

Because Kevin Durant said, let's move past that.

The quote is, I've got respect for Tyler.

He has respect for me.

In those words, they're just words at the end of the day.

We didn't do nothing too much.

It wasn't too physical on our end,

but I appreciate his competitiveness and vice versa.

We can move on from that one, not too serious.

Tyler Hiroh says, he was saying I couldn't guard

and I said something to him, but we're competing

at the end of the day.

You want to be able to play against the best players

in the world and be able to compete like that.

That's what I live for.

I love to compete.

Are there other places, and I'm not talking

about human resources or anything,

but are there other places where I can have

that exchange of name-calling with somebody

and say afterward credibly, I respect that person.

That's someone I still respect.

I'm sorry.

I feel like it happens in actually.

You're having a terrible day.

You need to go out again because you did it again.

You can come back in a second.

I don't know how many, too many, it's still a show.

But Jiu-Jiu was clearly going to talk there.

It was clearly his floor, and you just got away.

Just heal your finger in the other room.

Jiu-Jiu, you were saying.

The UFC.

Yeah, competing, fighting.

Also, rap battles.

Also, well, yeah, I guess rap battles,

although I don't think that Kendrick and Drake

respect each other.

Like I don't think that what they have done,

they probably have gone to a place

where the disrespect is real.

You can, the thing that I'm noticing, though,

when it comes to these two particular things,

when it comes to these two human beings

that I believe them, when they say,

that's nothing, it's just talk.

It's not a place that I ever visit.

I never feel so competitive about anything

that something like that would come out of my mouth

toward somebody that I actually liked and respected.

Like I really don't...

Can you guys say...

Can you guys...

I've never eaten some replays.

No, I just sigh.

They just put in the preview him hurting his finger,

so I just...

No, that was on air, too.

I just saw him injuring himself.

It's just not something...

I remember I was playing ping pong one time

with David Samson.

He's very competitive.

And that level of competition was something

that I long ago sort of lost interest

in the ego stuff that comes with being really competitive.

It's not something in adulthood that I held on to.

I didn't even feel like it was good for me

to be noticing what other people are doing

and then start competing with them.

So this doesn't exist in me anymore

where I would be across from somebody.

Tyler...

Imagine how Tyler Hero actually thinks of Kevin Durand.

And that something would stir in him

while he's playing against Kevin Durand

who must be a genuine hero to Tyler Hero,

to hear that come out of...

Kevin Durand's mouth at him.

It's just because it's part of what the culture they exist in.

It's the most normal thing in the world

to respect someone and disrespect them that way.

I'm sorry.

This is a very white take.

Yeah, it's red.

It's blue.

That just stumbled me right there.

It's a little interesting.

She does it every day on the alley.

You go check it out on DL and Supa's right now.

But I think that sticks and stones,

they know like this is the world we live in.

People who get so upset on some words,

you might need to go into some training

because sticks and stones was taught to me

at like second grade.

But it also refers reminds me of Backwind.

You remember that Jimmy Butler?

You know Jimmy Butler?

We can get 30 perns.

That I didn't want to say it then,

but him calling Jimmy Butler and that's it.

That's regular in New Orleans.

Like it's not necessarily the disc.

So it's just where you are in the world

and what you're used to is what you're going to deal with.

Chris Cody is feverishly looking for both that

and the dream imaging that he has now that I mean is there.

We've got some weird dream imaging.

But go ahead and play.

You're saying we overreacted

and I overreacted to Jimmy Butler taking a bunch of this

in the face and not doing anything

with it other than walking away.

I'm going to blow up.

Why do you think I have a 30 per?

Ameen is here.

We're going to do weekend observations with Ameen in a second.

But go ahead and play your dream imaging there Chris

so that Zazlow can tell us about the weird dream

that he had recently.

Is that it?

Oh man.

So I remember my dreams.

All right.

Like Trista, you remember your dreams?

I remember your dream.

Jamie, you remember your dreams?

I remember your dream about being a cuck.

Yep, that was the one I was talking about.

That's the one she was talking about.

Mike, you remember your dreams?

Not all of them now.

I remember my Daniel about them dreams.

Wait, what's that stumble?

What was it again?

So I remember my dreams.

And over the weekend, I had a dream.

I was on first take on ESPM.

I was making my debut on first take.

I'm dressed up.

I'm looking all good.

Your boy was looking good.

He got brand new shoes.

Oh my god.

That's right.

Wait, how are you dressed up?

Are you wearing a Roman Reigns t-shirt?

No, I want a suit.

You're wearing a legitimate suit.

Yeah, that's right.

I don't know how.

When was the last time you wore a suit?

Oh man.

Funeral wedding.

Yeah, wedding.

Like a year ago, wedding.

Yeah.

Whatever.

I look good like this.

I know how I look good.

So I'm on first take.

I'm making my debut on first take.

And I'm on the set.

And the other panelists, all right,

sitting right next to me is Kendrick Perkins.

And sitting right next to Kendrick Perkins is Stephen A. Smith.

And sitting right across from me is George Sedano.

All right.

Now, I don't know the other faces who are there.

Sometimes you don't see the faces of everybody in your dream.

You know what I'm saying?

But those three, I recognize.

Those are there.

Kendrick Perkins and Stephen A. Smith,

they're having a back and forth.

They're talking about the Miami Heat.

All right.

And Perk, he says something incorrect.

So I interrupted.

All right.

I interrupted and I made the correction.

I made a good point, all right.

But I was like, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm interrupting.

And I made the point.

It's a different show.

Oh, it doesn't matter.

You understand what I'm saying?

And I made the point.

And Perk was not happy that I interrupted him.

He was not only was he not happy that I interrupted him.

But I also found out that I wasn't even in the segment.

I was off camera.

So I was correcting Perk while like I wasn't,

like I was off to the side.

I wasn't even on the camera.

You're wearing a suit, but you're off camera.

You're on the set, but you're not on the show.

Are you making your debut?

Or you're making debut from off camera?

Yeah, like I was going to be in next segment.

OK, like I was waiting off to the side.

You couldn't help yourself.

And I interrupted Perk.

I'm not even on camera.

He did not accept my apology afterward.

And the people were not happy with me.

It ended very poorly.

What a dream.

Chris, I got to salute you for this music.

It makes me, it transports me to both a spa

and a lovely beach side shack somewhere in the Caribbean.

I mean, you are our dream expert around here.

You had your head in your hands while he delivered

that particular dream.

What is your dream analysis there?

My analysis is that when I tell my dreams,

Mike Ryan got a pitch fork and ran me out the studio.

But now we have imaging and music when Zaz does it.

I see how it is.

No, that imaging was produced so that when you appeared

to talk about dreams, you'd be our dream expert.

That imaging was made for you.

It's good imaging.

And the segue was Zazlow had a had a dream.

And so we wanted to share it with our dream expert.

It's amazing imaging.

I got to give Chris 10 out of 10 for the imaging.

I just want to point out that when I talk about dreams,

again, pitch forks and torches came out.

I was up to believe my dreams and the topic of dreams

were off limits for the Dan Libertad show.

But it's nice to see that it's been returned into the graces.

Comparison.

There's a thief of joy.

For me, it was just refreshing to hear him get through it quickly.

Was that quick?

On the scale?

Yeah.

Mine was more important, more interesting.

I had mobsters chasing me on high speed trains.

This guy's talking about first take.

Got a dream of that.

What?

Yeah, I don't control.

So that's what he that's what he was asked.

Look, a tarlic.

What do you think it means to mean?

The question is, what does it mean?

I love how you bogged this down when the main complaint

is that your segment usually bogs things down.

Wait, Bob.

He wants to be on first take.

That is good analysis.

Good analysis by a mean.

That is why he's on our dry.

That's why he's our dream expert.

He's extraordinary at looking into and probing

the subconscious in the sleep.

I felt bad.

Like I interrupted him and I wasn't even on camera.

It's very important.

You're doing the slurring again.

No, he's slurring.

So how did they get angry?

What like were you afraid?

Did you wake up?

The way that people wake up.

Well, falling off of building when Kendrick stares.

Live on TV like Aaron Glenn.

And do I wait in the gate?

Or ate commercial?

Well, I didn't get my segments for one.

All right, I like that was it for me on the day.

And I had to sit down with like the executives.

Oh, wow.

So what is a literal dream being on first take turned into an enemy?

Yeah, yeah, I didn't like it.

I had a similar dream like this that I have only told to my close family and friends

that I was in a warehouse for a live taping of the Bill Simmons show with Zach Lowe.

And every time Zach would toss to me,

my mic was off and Bill would talk over me.

I feel like that was closer to possible reality.

But now every single time was like that.

I couldn't understand why Perk wouldn't accept my apology,

but it makes sense because I wasn't even on camera.

A meme was clearly going to talk there and you interrupted him again.

I mean,

I'm not a penalty.

Too many to play a show.

Zach, this is the worst show you've had since you've been here.

I mean, you are about to say,

what were you about to say there before?

Zach clearly bothered you by interrupting you.

How was I supposed to know?

That's not a dream, Trista.

That's called the Dan Levitard show.

It was funnier in the moment.

Damn.

Have you had any good dreams recently?

I mean, because this is your dream segment.

That imaging was for you to come on here with whatever your weird dreams are that you write down.

I will not share my dreams with you people anymore.

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I have a number of questions for you. I mean where do you stand right now?

Okay, I saw everybody when you said Tyler hero is calling a Kevin Durant burner boy

Everyone seems to believe that the Kevin Durant burner story is real

I stopped paying attention to it the moment you said it wasn't real and where are you on this now has any of your opinion changed on this

We texted about this last week while you were out and I told you Dan

The first time the next time someone presents evidence connecting him to these accounts will be the first time

It's literally just what cuz he had a burner before and that's it. That's the evidence and so without

rising

But below the lowest threshold possible of proof. I have no reason to believe. It's true

This is simply a case of I want to believe much like Zaz

Mike and Chris wanted to believe an Uber driver freaked out and told the guy to get out because he was on speaker phone

You want to believe it's true. It's not there's no evidence. There's no proof

But everyone's everyone's running with it though

I mean like everyone's talking about this as if it's absolutely true

They're not it's not merely a straw man. It's being made true by the people who are talking about it

I go back to okay. What was the evidence they provided other than he had a burner a few years ago

There is none that's my point so just because they're all running with it

But none of them not one person said you know why because I did the IP address look up for what nobody

You're talking a hundred percent of the people running with this story as true have zero evidence supporting it

That should throw your red flags up immediately when there's nobody not just one kind of one person

One quiet guy. Hey, I did the the tracking and be logged in at the sit nobody not one of them

They just ran with it. That should tell you everything you need to know. I'm not running

To a means point like it it was something that went viral for about 24 to 48 hours and then there was

No follow up after that with any more evidence of any screenshots from a group text of anything pointing toward any of those

Accounts and and he's even laughing now there was someone at the game on saturday that yelled while he was at the free throw line

That's get higher 77 and he like stepped away from the line and laughed because at this point like it's all just a punch line

It's not really anything other than just

Father for the internet that isn't even continuing beyond what happened in those first 48 hours

I get into this a lot like when comedians say something and people and it turns it to headlines

So-and-so believes that these people shouldn't have rights or whatever and I said no

What so-and-so did was make this thing called a joke which doesn't necessarily represent their true feelings about anything

And the problem with society is that we have lost the ability to accept that a joke is just a joke and not a bigger

Narrative about something greater than all of us

Whoever said hey, this is made those fake posts and said this is Kevin Durant or maybe they're real posts and said this Kevin Durant

It's funny

It's funny as a joke, but we don't have to actually take the extra step as a no we have to take this seriously and believe it's actually him

Juju put it on the pole is the problem with society that we can't take a joke as a joke

How do you feel about this Paul George impersonation of Kauai Leonard? I'm not running

Sui award winner not nominee winner. I'm not running if you didn't if you didn't tell me this is Paul George

I would have thought that was Kauai Leonard. I'm not running. That's how good it was

He does a good Charles Barkley, too. Did you guys know that like Paul George does a really good Charles Barkley?

Did not know that I've got a couple of basketball questions to throw your way the first this interaction

You mentioned JJ Reddick earlier and Lakers losses being loud

What did you make of this interaction between Luca and Reddick your thoughts here are what?

I mean, that's that's the NBA like this happens all the time

Sometimes guys get pulled and they didn't want to get pulled and the coach is talking to him and and JJ's a fiery guy

Lucas a fiery guy and they're gonna get into it and it's nothing

This is every day it happens. It's happened with Pat Riley and players. It's happened with steep current players

And I think the best part of this video is this Jared Vanderbilt

Playing defense right there playing

Interference but doing it like as if you just like I got a demo state of indance right here

That is they say he's a good defensive player

They told me he was gonna make them good at defense. That's the best defense the Lakers have played this year

Well, he might have saved Luca Dodge. It's there for sure with his defense because what if Luca storms back what happens if things escalate again

Firey people getting mad about stuff. By the way, they were blowing the warriors out. That's the weird thing about this

This isn't like a nip and tuck game that that desire that kind of level of intensity look like JJ

I wanted a good high five

He just wanted a high five and look it and give it to him. It's all you got to do that. It's got a high five

They wanted more macro than that though. I mean the Lakers as

constituted and Luca as their centerpiece

They're not as good as the Mav's team that made it to the finals

They are not gonna go anywhere in the playoffs because of how they play defense

Your thoughts are what

Reddick reddick has a long-term deal there. He has

Relative security there. What do you make of that as a team?

So when you said not as good as that Maverick's team

Are you saying because that Maverick team achieved the finals appearance?

That Maverick's team was a four or five seed that was able to beat the rest of the west to get to the finals

This team is not going to the finals

I don't think they're going to the finals

But I think it's also premature to compare them to a Mav's team that also midseason was struggling until they made

Really big deals that changed the complexion of the team

acquiring Gafford and acquiring PJ Washington and that really changed the trajectory of their season

Obviously the Lakers were not able to do that. I think this Lakers roster on day one

We were all like this is not a championship roster. It's a decent roster

It's good compared to where they were a year ago

But it's not a it's not in Oklahoma cities

Category or Denver or Houston or any or or obviously we found out San Antonio later

But those three teams for sure. We said our head and shoulders Minnesota as well. So to me

I'm be surprised if Rob Pelinca and JJ Redick and the staff thought yeah, we've got a championship team

This is a team that's not athletic that doesn't defend and usually say well

They're really good offensive. They hit a lot of threes. Well, they don't shoot threes well either

So they don't really have a way of punishing you one way or another you can be unathletic and slow

But you better be the best shooting team in the league or you can be not a good shooting team and be athletic and defend

Like crazy like the Detroit pistons are what you can't be is neither of those things and that's what the Lakers are

I mean, would you pay Austin Reeves who's we who was I am I the Lakers you are the Lakers you are the Lakers

I would I wouldn't because not because he's not worth it

Because if I devote that kind of money to him and that money to Luca and I'm assuming that kind of money to LeBron James

Then now I have no flexibility and every dollar you spend over here is a dollar. I can't spend over there

And I can take what I'm what Austin Reeves is worth and I can get a bunch of role players to make it deeper now

If we're saying LeBron's out the door

That's a different story that changes things because now that frees up

50 plus million dollars that I can now spend on other things and I can pay Austin Reeves to stay

If you were the Lakers wouldn't you let LeBron and Reeves go and just go ahead and start it over around Luca

I don't think you need to be that drastic if you're gonna let LeBron go

That's one thing right, but then Reeves like okay. I want to get another number two guy will Reeves

Is it played pretty well that you're particularly before LeBron came back

So I think I would go with him and then I'd take the rest of that money and I would say I need a real center

Not DeAndre Aiden. I need real wing defenders. I need real three-point shooting and and kind of go around

Building that team as such, but again

This is the part and you know you got something like killer wary earlier in the way it suppose handling him

And this is a guy who's not even two years into the league like is it possible that we're gonna

Give him tough love for a little bit longer than 10 minutes and that the results don't have to be immediate

I was listening to

Rich Paul and and Max Kellerman and Max was saying

That delayed gratification is a sign of maturity

Meaning if you can wait for the reward as opposed to like want it now now now now now now that's the sign that you've

Reached a higher plan and I agree 100% yes, Kalilware wants to play. Yeah, you probably hate Spowe for not playing him

Guess what man? That doesn't mean he's right in the moment and that doesn't mean what Spowe is doing right now

Isn't part of a longer term plan to make this guy the type of player that we all think he can be

Do you think though back to Reeves and Luca really fast? I mean do you think you can really contend with a back court of two offensive first players that are cones on defense?

I can't you can if the rest of the roster is built to take care of that if you have if you're

Three man is long and ranging and can defend if you're four is a guy who can guard down and guard up

If your five is a bonafide rim protector if you're bringing people off the bench will bring energy

Yeah, I think you can do it and I think also more can be demanded of at least Austin Reeves maybe Luca as well

I think look at this point as I said last week tigers don't change their stripes. They just change jungles

Think Luca is who he is

But you can absolutely build around it

That's why I reject whenever people say defense wins championships or like oh you need a big three to win a champ

No, you don't need any what you need to have is a good team

And however that looks however you build it is how it comes about

Where are you on and you mentioned this during weekend observations briefly on yogic and dorked

It seemed like yogic was responding to the sensitivity of that's the knee. I injured more than that's the dirtiest play

I've ever seen, but it was dirty right

Yeah, it's a dirty play and he responded and Jalen Williams got right back in his face

It didn't back down and again. This is the NBA guys do things and guys getting to the spaces

I don't know if it's about the knee specifically

I he's probably sensitive. It's just about getting hurt in general now that he's had his first major injury of his career

But again, I go back to him. I mean bro, you kind of did the same thing a dirty as play

That has no place on a basketball court now is talking about there are ways to impose your physicality

There's ways to cross the line. I mean look think about like this

We talk about aprons all the time in terms of basketball finances

There's a first apron of physicality as a second apron. The first apron is I can hip check you

I can give you an elbow when I'm coming across the line. I could do these things and like it's a foul

But it's we accept it

And then the second apron is things like tripping guys shoving guys blindsided like

Sucker punches

That has no place that is out of bounds and and what Lou dorked it was out of bounds doesn't make him a bad guy

But he did something that I thought was kind of dirty

Do you know anybody that heads into a fight the way that yogic did forehead first because

It's not that he just got in dork's face. He literally got in dork's face by going for head by first of all

Coming down about I don't know eight inches and then

Just putting a rage in everybody's face by going forehead first John Starks did that didn't he

John Starks did that he was he was leaning against Reggie and then at some point Reggie said one more thing

And John Starks just he popped them and then Reggie went oh

And he like you know, he did the Reggie Miller thing and John Starks is ejected and Reggie stayed in the game

Thank you. I mean good seeing you. We will talk to you again next week

I will tell all of you that I am scared of the person who fights forehead first the person who comes in looking for the fight with the forehead

And knows how to use the forehead as a weapon is not a person that I wish to be fighting with

I'm gonna go ahead and drop my sword and walk in the other direction if you're

aggressive enough that you go forehead first

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