HOUR 2: Why you need a moving company you can trust.

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2:00You're listening to the Dana and Parks podcast on KMBZ. And a good Monday afternoon. Monday night football tonight, game starts at 715. The dates are already open to get into the parking lot. Dana and Sam were saying that some crazy people were parked outside Arrowhead last night. It's sick. Oh, yeah. They want to be the first on in. Okay. Sophie Cunningham's personal life is in the spotlight after photos of the Indiana Fever Guard and her rumored boyfriend made the rounds on social media on Friday. The sports illustrated swimsuit model was all smiles while posing with Frank Adams the head athletic trainer for the men's basketball program at Grand Canyon University on a boat in the lake of the Osar. Have you noticed athletes tend to date in similar circles? They were showing Ben Shelton's girlfriend during the US Open Over the weekend. She happens to be Dennis Rodman's daughter who plays professional women's song.

3:06Destiny Rodman. And then they were showing all of these other people. I'm like, all of these athletes all kind of because think about it. It would be hard to understand what that life at that level would be like. So you probably end up gravitating toward people who are in the same sort of tornado of media coverage. Yeah, like the three of us. What do you mean? None of us are dating anybody who's in. Okay. Well, we're not like famous. No, I'm just saying like elite athletes. I thought what she was saying is people that run in the same sort of professional circle that you run in. That tends to happen. Yes, but I think that to extend or expand on Dana's point, it's more about the fact that they live in a certain level of society. They're not going to go and just go on random dates with pardon my term, a commoner like us. Right. But also don't you think athletics is hard. It's just tough. I think this is why college athletes, state college athletes. It's a full time job. How else are you going to understand the training? And it's a full time job to do what they do even in college.

4:10I love her. I absolutely love her. David, talk to us on the radios of full time. No, it is not. Okay. No, it is not. It also kind of points to how their brains are wired. Yeah. If you're pushing for that level of exceptionalism 24, seven, you can't really be with a guy that's like, Can you date someone who's sacked out on the couch that just wants to watch Netflix and eat pizza probably? I think you're missing out if you don't explore all your options. No, I don't, I don't disagree. I just think it's easier probably for them to understand what that life is like. If they're dating someone else also in that, I mean, the guy in the couch eating the pizza is going to understand, wow, that looks like it's really hard to do. Okay. Yeah. What's on Netflix? You go play your tennis and go to the gym and I'm going to hang out here and have another slice of pizza. I like that guy. Speaking of fishbowl, did you see Princess Diana's revenge dress is going up for auction in New York City and every single woman listening knows the exact dress that I am talking about. Is it the black one? Yes, even you know what the revenge dress looks like.

5:14The then Princess of Wales turned heads when she arrived at one of London's most celebrated art galleries on a warm June evening in 1994, dressed in the figure hugging gown for a vanity fair hosted fundraising dinner. That dress is now going up for auction for the first time in almost 30 years, December 9th. Sotheby's calls it quote an enduring symbol of confidence and self possession. It is expected to fit. Yes. That's not what it is. It was a Hey Charles. Yeah. You gave this up. Yeah. Both middle fingers. Mm-hmm. Uh, it is expected to fetch any guesses. $10 million. I thought it would be higher. It is nowhere near that high. Three. $150,000 to $300,000. Huh. It's a bargain. It will be unveiled and exhibited at Sotheby's London starting next week. Okay. What are you going to do with it when you buy it? Um, I think it belongs in a museum quite frankly.

6:17It reminds me of the Diana exhibit that came here. Then maybe a museum ought to buy it. You're going to show all your friends how much money you have like when you put a T-Rex head and you're full. Right. I have Diana's revenge dress. Speaking of T-Rex in a foyer, I went down to one of my favorite, no, trust me, this goes right into it. Squirrel. I went down to one of my favorite antique stores over the weekend along Metcalf. Does it have a name? You can buy a stuffed gerat, like a taxidermied giraffe right now in Kansas City. And when I say giraffe, Scott, I walked in like a giraffe. I look it is. Oh, you forget how tall those things are. I didn't see the squirrel that looked like the taxidermied squirrel that looks like it's trying to if you are in the market. I'm going down the side of a building. Yeah. For a real giraffe. Look at that. I can see it. Guess how much? It doesn't include the body or just the head. No, it's the entire giraffe. It's taller. I could stand underneath it. That's how tall this thing is.

7:17$2,800. No, no. $2. What are you going to do with it? $8,000. Higher. 12,000. Higher. 2018. $15,000. And I'm telling you, if you just walked in, you think it's a real giraffe. This is not some weird stuffed creepy thing. Is it a real giraffe that's been taxidermied? Yes. Now, if I happen to go to the store and I do purchase it, but I can't get it home in my own vehicle, will you ship it to me? You need a very tall truck. Shipping would be a tall order. What movie was it when they were transporting that giraffe in the back of a truck and hit the bridge? I can't. And hit the bridge. It is the Metcalf antique mall by the way. And now you're, if you get that, Dana, you're going to have to get like a really tall fountain for the. Exactly. So the dragon drink from. Uh-huh. It is just the most beautiful thing. And I mean, you can't miss it when you walk in. You just stand in right there. What are you going to do with that? How do you even get it out of the store? With that.

8:18Very carefully. Scott, by the way, the movie you're thinking of is the hangover part three where Alan purchases a giraffe and tries to bring it home in a trailer behind his car and did not make it home. Well, part of it did. Well, you couldn't put it outside. You would have to. The elements would destroy it. Yeah, it would have to go inside your house, which begs the question, where would you put it? I have a tall ceiling in my pointer. How tall? To the second floor. Okay. You should go get it. If you could afford that, you've got a large enough foyer. Who would want the only group of people I think would want it might be Cabellas? Okay. Yeah, yeah, sure. They've got all the animals in that. They don't have a giraffe. No, they do. No, they do. No, they do. They do a very odd thing to put in their hunting section. I'll see. I've mixed all the white tail deer. I don't even know how they got it in the store quite frankly. But it's in there. Go look at it. I love Metcafan Teekmall.

9:18All right, tell everybody what we have coming up. Matt Flainer, KNBC 9 News is coming on after the break. We're going to take a break a little bit early. He just got off the phone with some very, very important people in Washington, DC. They are now hearing our alarm bells about the moving scams where you go to move from point A to point B and a lot of people are military family Scott. And let's say you give them $500 up front to move you, which you shouldn't do. And you get to your destination and you're like, hey, where's my stuff? Where are you guys? And you are either ghosted or they hold your possessions hostage where they will say, you know what? For a ransom? This cost a lot more than we thought to move this stuff. We're going to need $10,000 by tomorrow. It's awful. It's happening all across the country. You know what happened to my parents. We're going to talk to Matt Flainer about it straight ahead. I'm Anna Garcia, host of True Crime News, the podcast.

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11:25My post is taking way too long to upload. That's a sign you've got to get T-Mobile. So many reasons to join T-Mobile. Find yours at T-Mobile.com. It's a space on analysis by Uclos Speed Test Intelligence, the data of national speed score results incorporating 5G download and upload speeds for the first half of 2026. Hey guys, fly on the walls back for another season. That's right. On audio and video every Monday and Thursday. Follow and listen to Fly on the Wall everywhere you get your podcasts. I'd story here from Channel 9, K-M-B-C dot com. It's from Matt Fleener. He writes, Kevin Sneathen rented a U-Hole on Wednesday for the 7-hour drive to 11 worth. A dollar a mile from Clinton, Oklahoma, Sneathen had to spring for a hotel room as well. He never planned to spend that money when he paid a moving broker $4,000 in May to move his household items from Nebraska down to Oklahoma.

12:28Says Sneathen, I had no way to trace the property. But Sneathen got a call from Kelly Klein, a landlord who discovered his entire household stuff packed in boxes and stacked inside of her warehouse in 11 worth. Joining us on the K-M-B-C hotline is Matt Fleener with Channel 9. Hello Matt. Hi guys, another day, another fraud story catch. Oh, man, I'm telling you. Well Matt, and this is, it's my heart and is close to me because it happened to my mom and dad and you think, well, it's just stuff, but no, it's not. These are people who are moving. My mom had important documents. She had photographs. Like my grandpa's dog tags, it was heartbreaking to watch them go through that even though they ended up getting their stuff back in the end. Yeah, we're talking to people who put their social security cards on the moving truck. Their loved ones ashes are on moving trucks, like guns. And like it's pretty wild to think of what is getting moved across the country and not

13:32delivered, right? And that is the essence of K-M-B-C9's revocation rip off investigation that we've been doing all summer long. We keep hearing heartbreaking stories from people who are getting ripped off by unscrupulous moving companies across the United States. And we're finding that there's not much enforcement happening at the local state or federal level about this. And these movers are getting away with it. Basically, upcharging people thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of dollars on moving day after stuff has already been loaded onto the truck. They're demanding cash or they're demanding sell payments, online payments. And then when they take their stuff, they're holding a hostage in these warehouses, like the one we found in Levinworth. We track to that Levinworth warehouse using GPS trackers of people who put air tags inside of their boxes. And thankfully, they've been able to get reunited with their stuff. There's hundreds and thousands of boxes of items that are getting stolen or stored in

14:33warehouses across the country. And the bad guys are getting away with it. And we're trying to shine a light on this problem. Wake people up to that this problem is happening every single day in the United States. Dana, just like your parents experienced. Matt, if you deal with a company like Mayflower, or I used to work for Century Van Lines in Levinworth when I was working my way through college, these are reputable. Well-known companies, but how do you know if the company you're dealing with logistics moving is as good as Mayflower or Century Van Lines in Levinworth? Yep, there's dozens and dozens of reputable movers out there. We're not going after those folks. But there are hundreds of what we call and what we've discovered are called chameleon carriers. Right? So what they are is these moving companies that will spin up for a season, say a spring, maybe a summer, they'll get as much money as they can and then shut down once the federal

15:35government is on to them or once investigators are on to them. But then there's really no regulation whatsoever. So they'll just spin back up as another name, right, as another company. And we found that with one company that's happening that we've been investigating. The way to protect yourself, we have been working with a website it's called trunk. And if you just google it, just trunk.lurea.ai, that website has been absolutely incredible to search reputable movers. They use a system where they're checking federal databases and checking for the unscrupulous movers that are out there and doing a great job of it. The federal government, you can go to protect your move. You just google protect your move. The federal government has federal records that you can look at. But some of those records, honestly, we're finding are incomplete. And Dana, I mentioned to you, I was just able to speak with the US Attorney General today

16:36about this issue. He's in town with the Vice President today talking about fraud of all things, paycheck protection loan fraud. But I asked him about our investigation. He said, yes, send it to us. We want to know about this stuff to be able to root it out and make sure it doesn't happen again. So hopefully we're bending the ear of federal investigators to a problem. Yeah, I don't know how you stop it because as you said, one company shuts down and then they pop up with another company logo and company name. It's so easy now, Matt, to make the websites look legitimate even though they're not. But Dana, I think there is a way. It's a probably a pretty easy way to do it. It's to connect those companies within the federal transportation database system. So one company spends down, then you then they spend back up. And what I think needs to happen is there needs to be some sort of proof or some sort of catch or regulation to where they can link those two companies in the federal DOT database. I think we're on to something here and we're really trying to figure out how to get in

17:41front of the right federal lawmakers, the right federal law enforcement to make sure that this gets stopped for good because I firmly believe people are getting ripped off and I've also firmly believe that the federal government can stop this. They have the tools and the mechanisms to stop it. They just need to do it. You know, usually I would move myself, but as I get older and older, when I moved five years ago, Matt, I hired a company for the first time in my life. And you know who I got the referral from, my realtor. Yeah, yeah, sure. They know all the reputable moving companies here in town. They do. And they talk to each other and they do a good job. The problem is if you go for a Google search of these moving companies, a lot of these people, a lot of these movers are hiring fake reviewers. So they'll flood the market with fake reviews and it just catches people and say, oh, yeah, we've got 200 fake reviews or 200 views of five stars.

18:43A lot of those were finding her fake and so people get duped. And a lot of people are finding these movers on Instagram, on TikTok. You know, don't do that. Go to the government's website, go to the Better Business Bureau, go to that trunk website we mentioned earlier and do your research. Make sure you're and talk to your realtor. Talk to anybody you know who has moved before who can give you a great rep. Real quick, can I ask Matt, once once you catch these people, like law enforcement catches them, it's not like, and my mom and dad had this happen. It's not like you can just go breaking into a storage unit to get your stuff back. And I think we're finding that's what's happening with a lot of the victims. Like we might know where they took my stuff, but you don't have the right to go get it. And nor did this landlord up in up in Levenworth. She even didn't have the right until she actually went through the court proceedings for a victim to go into that warehouse. She didn't have the right for about two weeks. And so literally we were watching movers moving things out of that warehouse over a two

19:45week period until she had her next court hearing to go back in. So yeah, you see your stuff in the warehouse. You want to go get it, but you can't legally. And that is the absolute most frustrating thing for people. Once they do know where their stuff is, they can't go in and get it. It's really complicated, but I tell you what, we are, we are, I'm fired up about this. I really am because it is, it is people's life's possessions. It is your entire house. Somebody is coming to your house, they've stolen your stuff or they've taken it, they're, you know, extorting money from you. It is not right. And air tags, is that the solution? Yes, yes, yes, yes, before you move, if you move across the country, get some sort of GPS tracker, write it in your stuff, get 10, get 10 GPS trackers. Because that is the only way that we've been able to help people reunite with their stuff. And that is, that is, put it in your luggage, put it in whatever, you know, buy a hundred

20:45of them. I don't care. And make sure that you're tracking that stuff across the country. At least then you have some idea where it is. It doesn't mean you're going to be able to break in and get your stuff immediately, but at least then you have an idea. All right, Matt, thank you for keeping, yes, go ahead, go ahead. You can keep tabs on it and law enforcement can keep tabs on it too. Good. Matt Fliener with Channel 9. Thanks for your time, as always, my friend. Thank you, Matt. Take care. All right, be well. It makes me so mad and I'm telling you, what happened there's never any justice. It's like, it's theft. It is grand theft. If you think about every single thing in your house, Scott, someone, if they came in in the dark of night and stole everything, that would be, oh my gosh, you've been burglarized. But somehow they use a fake moving van and a fake name to literally walk out under your watchful eye with everything you own. And we treat it differently somehow. If they roll up in a you hold, this rapidable moving cabinet, if they, if they roll up in a you hold, that is not a good sign. Whatever became of the guys that ripped your parents off. They went on to rip off other people.

21:46I guarantee it. They were not arrested. Police met them to facilitate the unloading of the stuff because by then I thought they were probably armed crazy people. And the argument they would make is what crime did I, did I kill it? Look, I'm here three, two months later. I'm here. I brought their stuff. We got delayed, but I'm giving them their stuff. That's what we agreed to. It didn't say it had to be done in two days. They told my parents they were leaving Topeka going straight to Alabama for another delivery and then from Alabama to Mississippi, we'll see you in four days. It was months later. We found out their stuff never left the area. We found it in a storage unit in Kansas City. I want you to retell that story because even I forget how this all went down, but I remember you and I in the back studio looking through the computer 913-586-7798-5867-798 here on Dana and Parks.

22:53When your folks moved to Mississippi years ago, handful of years ago, they hired what we later learned was some fly by night moving company. Do not ever Google moving company near me because what happens is the scammers are working the algorithm to shove their fake company up toward the top. Above a mayflower. They Googled, you know, they sponsor their links. It's like an ad. Nierist moving company to me and of course it had five stars and it had all these fake reviews and the website. Look, you know, everyone smiling and shaking hands. It was all a scam and two guys showed up in a rented, I believe it was you all. They came with you all. That's right. And what broke my heart is my mom. One of them said he wasn't feeling very well. She helped pack up her own stolen stuff into this van. She felt so bad for him. Bring in and water. It was hot out. She's like, you know, my mom got a heart of gold. We can help you. She literally helped facilitate the theft of her own stuff.

23:53So they go down to Mississippi. They're waiting for their stuff. It's going to be there in four days. No, four days. We'll see in four days and then it was ever chosen and then it was a month and there was a picture. I remember that you got on your phone. Yeah. They stopped answering phone calls because my mom was like, where is our stuff? And then every single day, Scott, she would break down crying, thinking about the one other thing she had forgotten that was in there. Like, I mean, every day it was something. I forgot my grandfather's, you know, whatever was in there and they were smart enough, Scott. They kept their passports, their social security cards, which I would tell you no matter who you're using moving, you know, the van could catch fire for all, you know, take all of your important paperwork, put that in a binder and keep that with you when you move and they did that. And then one day, because, you know, the reporter in me came out and just decided I was going to go all jump out of a bush on these guys. They. Mom and dad were like, look, we're going to the media. We're going to call police. Where is our stuff? And they were like, what are you talking about? It'll be there.

24:54And she's like, it's been a month, you know? So he was dumb enough to send her a proof of life photo. And you could tell it was all of this stuff was packed up, stacked in what looked like a storage unit. And you're right, Scott. We were here at work and mom sent me the photo and she was crying and she says he says he still has it, but I don't know what to believe anymore, but that does look like our handwriting on some of the boxes. And I said, click on the photo. Did you check the metadata? Get the metadata. And I'm like, what are you talking about? Because there's a picture of my dog sent to me from Heather Meade. Yep. And it tells me exactly where Heather Meade was when she took the photograph. We were here when I pulled up the metadata on that photo and it took us within about six inches of my parents' property. I don't know. It was Kansas City, Missouri somewhere near Independence. On the east side. On the east side of Kansas City, Missouri. And I remember calling KCPD and I'm like, look, y'all are about to have something go down at this storage unit because if I've got a bust in there and get my parents stuff,

25:56I'm going to do it. And so, you know, can you meet us there? And my mom called. They had a police report by this time and she was trying to explain to the guy in property crimes. My daughter found our stuff and he said to her, Ms. Wright, you know, we've got a lot of cases in front of yours, of course, of course. And also just because your daughter says she found it, we can't just go bursting in there. And then she explained the metadata and she said it and he goes, oh, she's like, look, this is our stuff. We can show you the text exchanges between us and this shady guy. And so sure enough, they go down there. There's all their stuff. And the company decided, and I say, company and air quotes, that they would deliver the stuff down south. And I said to my mom, don't, but they said, look, we've already paid them and they paid them like, it's got what was it like six grand or five grand to move on? It was expensive. But what guarantee did your mom and dad have that they were actually going to go to this

26:58locker in Eastern Kansas City and bring it down to Mississippi? I think once police contacted them, things started moving along pretty quickly. But I'm telling you, this is just going to keep happening because it is a signingly brilliant way to steal the entire contents of someone's home. Let's go to Bob in Waldo. Hello, Bob. Hey, kids, how's it going? It's going well. Thank you for asking. Hey, so quick story, friend of mine, or actually my neighbor was moving out West Coast two years ago. They requested a zel deposit, which is a flag, and they arrived on site and said, well, it's not going to be $7,000 to be $17,000. Yep. They're like, we can't do that. And they also made a mistake of telling them they're closing the next day on a house. So Katie borrowed the door. Everybody was running around trying to scramble through all the stuff inside of a storage locker in Kansas City so they could figure out another plan.

28:00But that's the new slick way. Use a credit card anytime you do the opposite. If they don't take a credit card, don't deal with them. Because at least then if it's an amex, you would get that money back, but that doesn't necessarily mean you'd get your stuff back. So let me give you just a couple of things, and this goes back to when I was in over 30 years ago, plus here are two very simple things to look for. To know if they're legitimate or not, or if they're a really good faker. They will tag, they'll have little stickers. They will tag the back of every piece of furniture you own, or if it's a table, the sticker will go underneath. And there will be, there should be a guy holding a clipboard. And I tag your furniture and I say, you're, let's say you're the crew chief, okay? A one. No, Dana, 161, it's a kitchen table. And then at the end of the day, there's a log of all of your stuff, book box, dish box,

29:02a sort of clothing, blah, blah, blah. And then at the end of the day, you have to check off and then sign the log, you as the shipper. If they're just throwing all of this stuff in a back of a truck, you got a problem. Jeff in Kansas City, Jeff hello. What's up, Dana and Park, happy Monday to see you at first time, caller. Welcome on in. Take it, Michael. You bet. Thank you. So I got a quick story for you. So my ex-wife, we got divorced about six years ago. It's very amicable, divorced and she moved across country. She moved Arizona, arranged a company and to come pick up all of her stuff and move her across country. She left about a week before they were coming to pick it up. Not a big deal. We arranged it. They showed up, got everything loaded. And she had already paid for it in advance. They every person in additional $2,700 because the estimated space that it was going to

30:04take in the trailer was much larger than what they had estimated. You know, at that time, the stuff's loaded. What do you do? Really felt like, you know, you're in a pickle there. Thankfully, I got it all taken care of. But the point that I wanted to make is that all of her possessions for three and a half months went from Kansas City to Arizona and stopped in somewhere in Denver and then a little further out. But ultimately it took almost three and a half months for her to get her stuff. So not only do I feel like we were going to spend more. But also it took three and a half months to get her stuff. Three and a half months? Yeah. And so, I mean, that's all your personal possessions. Yeah, you're clothing. Oh, she took a few, yeah, Dana. I mean, she took a few days of clothes with her, but it wasn't like she didn't take two, three months worth of clothes. So she's calling me saying, hey, what do I do here? I don't know where my stuff is.

31:08Well, we only did a couple of moves when I was going through college where we would pick them up and then drop your stuff off. And it was usually somebody in the military who was retiring and we're, you know, they were coming off of Fort Leavenworth and moving to, you know, they were going to stay in the area and we would go pack them up at Fort Leavenworth and then move them out. I remember moving one guy to Chilacoffee one time from Fort Leavenworth. We pick your stuff up on a Wednesday. We drop it. We're there Thursday morning at eight o'clock. It's less than 24 hours on, on, on move like that for your mom and dad. It should have been no more than two days. Two days max. The other thing he said and it bears repeating she paid up front. Mm hmm. Yeah. And the whole, yeah, well, you had a trigger. This is going to, that is a classic scam. Now that we got it all in here and we're eyeballing it, we're going to need another 25 classic scam. So when I moved last five years ago from Ropo to Western Shawnee, we didn't have the house in Shawnee yet.

32:10And so I hired a company called Gerber at a Monter Springs. They're very good, by the way. Not a client of the show, but they're very good. They came by, there was, there was some up front if I remember correctly and then I had them store my stuff until, until I found a house. And then, you know, based on the amount of time that my stuff remained at their warehouse and then how much weight of stuff I had, that's how we figured out the final bill that I paid when they dropped by stuff. But they had a brick and mortar warehouse. That's also important to you. And I know that all moving companies don't have a brick and mortar, but it helps if they do. They have more often than not they do because they have to store their trucks. And like at Century Van Lines when I was in college, we would store people stuff in these three gigantic warehouses. And for whatever, you know, let's say they're going over to serve in Germany for a couple of years. They don't need to take everything with them.

33:10So they would store it in our warehouse. And then when they came back, they would call us up and we would get their stuff. Tell me about the reception that Craig and Big Juicy gave to these Nerduels when they finally showed up with their stuff. My mom was just very, let's not rock the boat. We're getting the stuff back. Let's try to go through it and make sure it's all here. Let's rock that boat. Oh, I said the same thing. I would have come out of my skin, but they had two sheriff's deputies down there for the arrival of the stuff because they were so sure now that we know we're dealing with criminals. That's what they are. We are dealing with criminals. And the handoff was was fine. You're not getting a tip either. Please start normally. Oh, God no. No, no, no, no, not a tip. But normally when the movers show up, you're supposed to offer them some drinks, you know, a Coca-Cola, some cold water. If they're going to be there past lunch, you get them a pizza or some McDonald's. I'll also tell you this. As I recall, the people that showed up to unload were not the same people that loaded.

34:13What? And they look like they might be family members. Like he just grabbed, hey, I need you and I need my sister and her aunt, everybody, all hands on deck here. No more. Now that I've said that all of it, not that the scammers listen to Dan and Varks, but man, that proof of life photo was cracked in the case of they still would not have their stuff. 913-586-777-985-867-798 here on Dan and Parks. Have you ever felt like you were living just a B or B plus life? It's so dangerous to live that more dangerous than a B minus or a C plus life because when you're living a B or B plus life, you don't change it. You think it's good enough? Is it? I'm Susie Welch. I host a podcast called Becoming You. People think, okay, an A plus life is not available to me, but there is a way. We are all in the process of becoming ourselves.

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37:23She said a new proposal will be pitched at tonight's board meeting to revert to the old policy that said food and drink could not be ordered to the school, but did not prohibit food and drinks being brought to the schools in the morning by the students. What do they have going on in that school that they think everybody's boozing in their coffee or something? Sure somebody is. It was far more common than you guys would care to imagine. Coming to school drunk. I know of, oh gosh, off the top of my head, at least four people when I was in high school that if they showed up to school with a QT cup in their hand, it wasn't just the T or the sprite or whatever the heck they claimed was in there, they were boozing. I know that for a fact. I could tell you, I know this for a fact, I'm not name and names to protect the guilty, but there were a number of people, especially at Lansing, who would roll up, let's just

38:27say, fast times at rich one, high like. Okay. And get through the day. High as you know what? Oh, absolutely. Oh, I know people who snuck out during lunch to go do that and refill their QT cups. Well, you're talking about alcohol. I'm talking about people rolling joints on the way to school. I'm talking both. Yeah. And smoke you could smell it on them. Oh, you never knew anybody in high school who got drunk at high school or got high at high school. I mean, I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I was so oblivious. I was probably like, oh, he's in a hyper mode today. He's rather chill today. He's rather mellow. One of my best friends to this day, we didn't become friends until after high school, because when we were in high school, we had gym class together. And it was fairly regular that he would come in after, you know, taking a little break. And I'd say, hey, man, probably a little bit more cologne next time. Was it weed or booze? It was weed. Okay.

39:27He would get mad at me for calling him out. And then we became friends after high school. Thank you for calling him out because better you than a teacher or a vice principal or something like that. Oh, it happened all the time. I'm not saying I'm trying to think like what percentage of the kids would roll into school high? I would say in the senior class, four or five percent every day. Okay. And it was the usual cast of characters. Yeah, yeah. You know, but they would. How are they doing today, by the way? Generally. Well, I don't know. Okay. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, because some of them probably went on to be incredible. Have great careers, you know, that was a phase, but maybe not all of them. I don't, honestly, God, I don't know where they ended up. The ones that I knew that were drinking before class did not end up doing great things. The ones that were doing what Scott's talking about, they're doing great. Just fine. Okay.

40:28Really? Living their lives. Successful people. Really? Uh-huh. Even though they smoked a little weed before they got to school every day. I wouldn't say a little bit. Okay. Good Lord. Anyway, school board meeting tonight, we will of course keep you updated. Uh, news coming away in about two minutes. Telephone number here is always 913-586-777-898. Dana Wright, Sam Stevie III. My name is Scott. And when we get back, enhancing a fart here on Dana and Parks. Thanks for listening to the Dana and Parks podcast on KMVZ. And just online anytime on KMVZ.com or get the podcasts wherever you get your podcast. G'day, I'm Justin Wolffers, host of the Platypus Economics Podcast. If there's one thing I've learned from a career teaching economics, it's that your life is shaped by economic currents you'll never see. A single price tag can explain things a thousand experts can't. People who understand economics, they make better decisions in their careers, their finances,

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