HOUR 3: Concerns flare again about the new downtown Royals stadium. Others can't wait.

0:00You're listening to the Dana N. Park's podcast on KMBZ. Who knew? Let me take you to Maine, the state of Maine for just a moment. Maine, okay? Where they just wrapped up or are wrapping up the second annual Bigfoot Calling contest. Ooh, okay. How does one call Bigfoot? Would you like to hear last year's winner? Uh, please. I can hear you typing. I'm almost there. Let me play one for her. Hey, Bigfoot! That's right. How could I forget? How could I forget? Bigfoot Wilson from Stanley County, don't care a line. Come on. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! You know, here's some more. This is all from last year. I'm good. No, I'm good. Okay. Woo!

1:01Oh, that's the winner. Okay. Two out. Two out. How, what? But my vote goes to the whoop whooper. Whoop. Whoop. Whoop. Whoop. Whoop. Okay. Are they calling him or making the sound when they get attacked by him? I'm confused. They like it. There's a huge crowd in a very picturesque main town. Yeah. It looks very quaint. I like this place. Thank you. If they're also good at calling for him, why can't they get him to come out? Hey, Bigfoot! I can't have had enough. We have been sitting on pun intended this next story all day. And it's time. Scott, it's time to unleash that line.

2:01Okay, I have to go back and get the story. But he is from ABC, I witness seven news. Okay, go ahead. You want to read, you want me to read it? A repeat offender has been charged after multiple butt sniffing incidents. He's known as the butt sniffer. I smell it. I smell it. Kind of smell. The smell smells. 39 year old police crouter was arrested last week by the Glendale Police Department. He has a history of arrests in the San Vernon, Dino Valley for allegedly seeking out women specifically and their hind regions. It's always by the way, this one of these is gone. He did it in a Marshall's clothing store. It looks like no, no, don't think Marshall's clothing.

3:01Think TJ Maxx. Okay. Like in the where, in the aisle where you would buy like, they've got kitchen appliances. You don't think clothing. She's look, it looks to me like she's looking at whisks and spatula turner things. He also did it in a Walgreens. Officers were called there on Friday. They said, Crouter had been crouching down, quote, getting close to others. And so sure enough, they, they, they looked at the surveillance and saw the cereal. They call him a cereal butt sniffer. That's what? Well, you do it more than once and you become cereal. It's a lot. Crouter is just trying to get a whiff of that chowder. You know what I'm saying? Sam Stevie. Quoting here from store manager Jimmy co. I know he's harmless, but it's a weird fetish. Co says it is the third time the man has engaged in similar behavior at his store.

4:03He crouches down. He says like he normally would. And he just looks around and then tries to take the chance to get close. Two oh, woman's behind. You got to be more creative, man. Walk over to her. Be like, oh, my shoes untied. Drop down there. Tie the shoe. And away. What does one sound like when they're sniffing butt? Crouter has been arrested for violating the terms of his parole. At last check, he was being held without bail. He was re-arrested in August, 2025. After yet another sniffing incident, that one at a Walgreens store in Burbank. He was on parole at that time. They call it loot conduct. And honestly, if you turn around at like one of these looks like a Barnes and Noble, if you turn around in the bookstore and there's some guy crouching down behind you, he's getting clocked in the head with a hard back. I'm just checking from the text line. That man needs a hobby. I think he has one.

5:03Listen to the police police report of Walmart. While in the women's section, the suspect was observed following a female customer, crouching near her and engaging in loot behavior by inappropriately sniffing her butt. I can't understand you when you're laughing through the line. Police, right. Engaging in loot behavior by inappropriately sniffing her butt talks. That is in the police report. Crack is whack. That crack is whack. It just has, it has happened so many times, you guys. From the text line, how is smelling air a crime if he doesn't physically touch them? Where is the crime? Okay, so so much of this is caught on surveillance tape. You tell me Scott, if this happened, and here's the serious newsman on it, we need to bring up one of the news stories because they are very serious.

6:06You know, as they are, and this is a crime. You know, anytime you're getting that close to a woman's space again and again and again. In one of the cases, you guys, he had to register as an offender because they believe this to be motivated by ludonless, severe things. Right. He had to register as a sexualist. He needs to be probably institutionalized. You think? Yes. I do. Dana, if you run around, I mean, unless you have a baby and you're pulling the diaper back to see if it's time for a change. That is the only time. You don't sniff, but I'm trying to get up, this, hang on for a second, Sam, I'm trying to get this ABC7 story, but they're in the middle of a commercial right now. Okay, I think I've, there we go. Let's see if this is an actual, it is. It's an actual news report. Here it is from ABC7 in California. That is back. He's already been arrested and jailed on the same charges before. So why can't law enforcement keep this chronic creeper from committing more crimes?

7:09The latest incident at a neighborhood grocery store was also captured on surveillance video. And we have it. I witness news reporter Tim Pulliam has the story from Glendale. Take a look. The alleged butt sniffer is apparently back to his dirty deeds. This latest attempt caught on security video at Big Say Discount Store in Glendale, where Jimmy Coe is manager. I know he's harmless, but that's a, it's a weird fetish. In the video, the suspect's apparent obsession targeted toward the store clerk, stocking shelves. Jimmy says this is the third time the man has done this at his store. Caughting down like he would normally would and he'll just look around and then just trying to take the chance to sniff like any woman's butt. The first time I caught him, I was like, what is this guy doing? He looks creepy. You want a sniff butt? You could do it to sniff somewhere else. Glendale police identified the suspect as police crowder at the witnesses reporting him doing something similar at another store the same day. The 39 year. Okay. In one of the videos and this appears to be Barnes and Noble, the woman is just casually like looking at the books, like looking at the bookshelf like you would.

8:14And the video is pointed toward her and all you see behind her and this is creepy picture the spider man pose, the crouch down spider man guy. And he gets right up against her crouch down. So if I turned around and some strange dude was crouch down, I mean, he's getting a need to the face. There would be a legal assault and battery on that man from the text line. That is a sign. Get out. I'm actually trying to figure out where the law would apply here because his intent Sam. I mean, I'm not condoning it and no, I wouldn't want my daughter in a store with this guy, but. You can't because where does it starts with the sniffing and where does it end? The only thing I can figure is that this would be assault. Get out. He's probably going to get fired from his job at the gas company. I'm not even I'm not even acknowledging that last comment.

9:17If he accidentally touched him, would it be buttery? Get out. Samuel. Whoa. They actually wanted the TV station, you guys. Got a legal expert to weigh in on this. Why does Crowder keep resniffing? It really comes down to it seems the limitations of the law and what he's accused of doing. I reviewed footage to know what to think about it. Hang on. California does not have a law that would specifically deal. I don't think they do. And why would they? What are you going to call your law maker and go look? I know it's one guy and this is going to sound really weird, but could we have a law? What is the crime? I know it's bad. It's wrong. He shouldn't do that, but what is the crime? And I don't think one exists as long as he doesn't touch you.

10:18By the way, when confronted, you know what he says, ladies, I'm sorry, I'm tying my shoe. Right underneath my butt, Jake, you're tying your shoes. No. It sets a weird precedent though to charge a crime because he was too close to a woman. What if they're on a subway and it does need to touch the attorney says he just happens to inhale. If there's an actual touching, that is a felony, but quote, just sniffing somebody. It really doesn't rise to a felony as the law stands now. It is very hard to fire file rather a felony offense based on this conduct. Now he's in trouble because it's a parole violation, which is probably more than what he's going to get for the old sniffing weird stuff. Somebody says on the text that you don't have to touch someone to be convicted of stalking. But you have to stalk somebody to be charged with stalking. Yeah, he's stalking Marge once in a Barnes and Noble. And then he goes across to Marshalls and stalks a woman over there.

11:19But is that really what he, I mean, is that the, is he really stalking them? He's just, he's picking these windom, wind the windom women at random. Is he not or at least that's the way what we're led to believe in these news stories is that he's just there. You walk by in one, in one of the videos, the woman bends over to pick something up and he goes right into action. It's go time people. This is my Olympic. I got a window opportunity and I'm not going to let it pass. 913-586-7798. From the text line, a down dog yoga class must drive him nuts. That would be true. Okay. A down dog yoga class. We are not welcome in any yoga class, sir. That is a target rich environment.

12:22Tanya and Grandview. Hello, Tanya. Hey. Go ahead. Okay. If he wants to smell something, it's far downing. Okey dokey. This show has gotten so high brow lately. Tanya, I will tell you this. I think that would be the worst thing you can do. That's what he wants. Yeah. And we'll leave it at that. This is so gross. What I'm looking for. Could you do that again, please? From the text line, my nose don't want none unless you got buns, hun. All right, we're done. We are. Okey dokey. Okay, we're good. Did you see the line this morning? I know I brought this up once, but it bears repeating. That's the line to get into the Trader Joe's as it opened in Mariam. You know, Mariam has not had a grocery store in 10 years. Since time house closed. I mean you guys, it's time. It's a very exciting time.

13:23That down. A high V right over here. I know and I love high V. I love high V, but I love them for different things. I got a high V all the time. Thank you all the time. Thank you. A group of people from the Missouri Workers Power Group turned in the final piece of paperwork today for an initiative that could send a royal stadium plan to a vote of the people. Again, just more than two months ago, the group turned in more than 4,000 signatures to qualify their initiative for a vote. If passed by a public vote, the initiative would require a public vote on any project. So we got to have two votes. We have to have a vote to vote. Sounds like that. With more than 2,500 seats that's getting public funds like the plan for the royal stadium at Crown Center. In August, the Kansas City City Council did pass the framework for a plan for $1.9 billion royal stadium, included in the project is $600 million in public city funds and additional

14:23tax breaks. Was there not a story in the stack that we didn't get to yesterday, Sam? And you alluded to, I think, about a half hour ago, there are two lawmakers in Missouri who are trying to put the caboch on any state money going to the royal stadium. Is that correct? The new royal stadium. State law passed last year during special session, they called the special session just for it as a last ditch effort to keep both teams in the state. That law promised, I don't remember what the number was, up to a certain percentage of the funding for a new stadium. That is an underlying pre-determined funding package or whatever. And these two lawmakers filed suit arguing that goes against the state constitution because they're promising funds for a project that doesn't exist yet. That went to the Supreme Court in Missouri on Tuesday where they first heard arguments. I have not seen an update on any ruling there, but that could tank it entirely. If the state cannot provide money, then they're missing $600 million of that project.

15:32Keep in mind, I believe it was the USA today. We had the story, a handful of weeks ago, that ranked every majorly ballpark around the country. Kansas City's Kaufman Stadium, even though it's decades old, came in fifth best in the country. Yeah. Sorry, bad math in my head. The state would need to cough up more than $400 million to get to the $1.9 billion. And yet, this is going to happen no matter what. Somehow, some way. I believe it is. The city's not going to let this go. No, who's going to pay for it? Kansas City? It will completely change downtown in a way that bringing in power and light completely changed downtown. But I think a lot of Kansas Cityans are looking at it as it's going to change downtown to be too expensive for me. I think a lot of Kansas Cityans, quite frankly, already look at downtown as too expensive for them.

16:33Oh, because it is. Yeah. It is expensive to live downtown. And the star is a story today where Crown Center shop owners are split on the idea of the Royals new stadium in Crown Center. Are they split on the idea of the stadium or the renderings? Well, here's the headline. Crown Center shop owners split on new Royals stadium, Colin, from thumbs up to monstrosity. On Tuesday, let's see here. Peter Wong, he is the owner of Packling Express. He says, and I quote, I think everybody down here is struggling, especially post-COVID-19. And now they're paraphrasing him with so many hallmark employees not working remotely and patronizing Crown Center in fewer numbers. Wong has little confidence at a new ballpark, even once it's built and attracting visitors for 80 home games a year will make business any better. For Mr. Wong, because most of the time when people come for a game, they go straight to the game.

17:34And people who want to come down to shop or something on game days, they'll think there's too much traffic down here or no parking. They would be right. They will stay away from here, like on normal days where mom takes the kids to do something at Lego land or something. They won't come on game days. Okay, that is a fair criticism. If you are paying attention to the royal schedule and you wanted to go down to say Lego land, would you go knowing there was a game that day? It's not that you wouldn't go. Wait a minute. You're not going to go during that time frame. You know, royals are off tomorrow. We'll go tomorrow. And did you see unforte restaurant has closed at Crown Center, citing the impending construction that restaurant told Channel 41 last night, it has declined a new two year lease due to the future royal stadium in the area, quoting here with the anticipated construction and development surrounding the future stadium project. And the uncertainty regarding how that construction will impact traffic, access and businesses at Crown Center, we felt that committing to another two years is not the right decision for our business at this time.

18:47So if I'm a business owner at Crown Center, by the way, somebody goes on one of the shop owners down there goes on to point out, they say this is the halls desperate way to stay in business with all the vacant. I haven't been to Crown Center a while. Real empty. Is it really empty? Yeah. Okay. If you are a business owner, one of the remaining business owners at Crown Center on opening day, you might as well just close your doors. Not open because we're talking 35,000 people plus crammed into the Crown Center area of downtown. Okay. And nobody's going to nobody who would patronize your business is going to be able to find his place. Have you been to Riggley field? I have not. There are restaurants and shops and apartments and it is completely built up all around. Riggley, I've had the pleasure of being there. My kids have gone there. And those restaurants are packed during game day. They need to address this at the point of how they are laying this out. And if you lay it out correctly, I don't think people go straight into the ballpark.

19:55Would and to be clear, would you rather pay $40 for a beer and a hot dog and whatever? Or would you rather go early, have a great lunch or dinner and then go into the game? Do we not think that prices of everything else in Crown Center are going to skyrocket as soon as the stadium is there? I don't know. Currently, you can park in Crown Center for free. Fair point. That is not going to exist. The second stadium is there. And also an interesting point from the text line that I can't believe hasn't been considered throughout the what has it been 455 years. We've been talking about this. The team value is 1.6 billion. If they were to put the team up for sale tomorrow, according to Forbes magazine, it would be worth $1.6 billion. Okay. Why are we building a $2 billion stadium? Well, but that's just the going price for stadiums. Well, I understand that. It just doesn't make any sense. I understand all of the concerns. I've accepted the fact that this is the fate. But we'll see what happens.

21:01If we're giving that side, we have to give the other side. Michael Miller, the owner of the missing piece, a hat store, has been doing business at Crown Center 20 years. I have no plan on moving. I think the stadium will be good for Crown Center. He said, recognizing that construction might cause some disruptions. But he says, I've been here 20 years. And since I've been here, Crown Center has kind of lost its edge. He says, the mall's third floor used to be home to numerous storefronts, a movie theater, boutiques. There was a bookstore. Now there are only two destinations, Hall's department store and music theater heritage. He says, you know where the stadium is now. There's nothing around that. You get out of the game. You just go home. I think the new stadium will help us. 913-586-777-985-867-798. Dana Wright, same Stevie the third. My name is Scott Parks on KM Music.

22:03And interesting story in today's Kansas City star where they went down and talked to shop owners at Crown Center. And it's a mixed bag that they found regarding the proposed new royal stadium in the Crown Center area. Some of the shop owners are like, yeah, thumbs up. Fritz has been around for 50 years. Fritz says, we ain't going anywhere. We can't wait. Others are saying, this is going to kill my business because baseball is different than football, obviously, and so are the fans. And for a chiefs game, you know, the tailgating is just part of the ritual where with baseball, it's less so. I think it's fair to say. And partly because a lot of those games are played at 640 at night. You know, you get off at 5, you race home, grab the kids, grab the husband or wife, and you get out to the ballpark. By the time you get there, you got to get in or you're going to miss the game. With the chiefs, of course, as everyone knows, it's usually on a Sunday. And you can get, I mean, Sam once said famously, you can't drink all day. If you don't start in the morning.

23:11Janet in the photo. Hello, Janet. How are you? Thanks for taking my call of the show. So I am so like talk about a mixed bag. My emotions about this stadium are mixed bag as well. I will say that, wriggly field and Yankee Stadium, some of the other places, they have a distinct advantage over Kansas City. Do they have mass transit? They have an infrastructure, our road system to bring that kind of volume in for a six something game. You want to be there before six businesses are getting out the ones that still have employees at 5, 5, 5, 30, 6 o'clock. I think it's going to be a nightmare. And I also worry about what's the cost of that to the American family that just you can barely afford to take your family afford to a royal game now. And I hate that stadium. I hate where it's located. I hate its look. I hate all about it. And I want a new one. But this one I struggle with. I want America's game to still be affordable. And I think this stadium and where it's going to be located is going to take it out of reach for a lot of people. Janet that is a thoughtful call and response and thank you for your words. I actually like the current location. I think the Truman sports complex. And this is coming from a guy who couldn't live farther away from it in western Shawnee.

24:17I like the location of the Truman sports complex. Why? Because it's convenient for everyone. It's at the intersection of two major highways. If you live east of Kansas City, Lee Summit, Blue Springs, at all. It's very convenient. If you live in the Northland, you just come down on 435. You live in Johnson County. You just wrap around a 435 or come in on I 70 like I do. Here's the thing. And I've said this from day one. I think what they ought to do is move the chiefs extend the royals lease on Kaufman for. Period of five to 10 more years post when it's supposed to expire. Let the chiefs move out to Wynda County. That's a done deal. Tear down arrowhead. Build a new Kaufman on the site of the current arrowhead once it's complete tear down the old Kaufman. What's wrong with that? Everything I want it downtown. I know, but wanting it downtown is one thing. I think what we're doing is we're chasing other cities. We hate change. That's all this is about Kansas City hates change.

25:19There is not a highway other than I 35. Think about how you would have to get there. They are going to have to build arteries to make that where I don't know Scott on what you don't think they've thought about this. Yes, yes, you're not just going to say let's vomit a stadium right in the middle of downtown without having conversations about transportation. They were asked about parking at one of the public hearings and their response in short was you'll figure it out. They will. No, they said you'll figure it out, meaning that we will. Keith and Kansas City. Hello. Hello. Thank you for taking my call. So I've been a royal fan for 50 plus years. I do not want to see them leaving Kansas City because the alternative is if they don't get the stadium done, they're going to move to Nashville or for something like that. That's the last thing Kansas City needs. The structure is available. They've got 71 highway that runs right through downtown.

26:20They've got, you know, they're working on the transit system with the shuttles and the. Some of the actual buildings are owned by Tonkowicz, but Troy trains and everything else. Kansas City's change a lot in the last 20 years. I last lived here in 2006, moved back up here last year and the flight. Nightingay, how downtown has changed you see families walking around downtown? Crown centers saying that they're not. They're going to be losing business. Crown centers losing business because of a towards $7.99 per half hour to park in the parking garage down there. I was telling earlier, it may have been something to do with the World Cup. I don't know, but the sign that was up there was look like a permanent sign that had been there. And I didn't see people down there to begin with. I think the moving downtown is a good thing for the city. I think it's a good thing for the royals. And I think that a lot, as Dana mentioned, a lot of people just have a real problem with

27:21change. I want to keep throwing up the fact that the owner should be putting the bill, the owners and our pain for part of it. But if we're going to be hosting them as the host city, that's where the responsibility of the city comes in play. And there's a lot involved with that, that the city is going to have perks with it. I think it's a good thing overall, but I understand the problems that people have with it, but I think the good outweighs the bad. Okay, thank you for the call. And do you remember how many people hated the idea of a new airport? We don't know the monkey. It isn't convenient. What are we doing? The airport's fine. Oh my gosh, it is a joy to call home to that airport. It is a joy to fly out of that airport. And you don't feel like apologizing when people come in from out of town now. What about the people that were opposed to a NASCAR track? I did not think it would work. And I was. It doesn't have very often, but when I am wrong, I admit it.

28:22I did not understand why people would go do that and they do. Right. Fair point on the text line, 2121. How does Kansas City seem to figure it out for all those T-Mobile events? It holds 18,000 people. What is the Royal's average attendance right now? It'll be fine. Okay. I agree. Derek and Lynnex at Derek. Good afternoon. Hi. I'm going to show my sister and I have a tradition where we go on the road every year to go see the Royal's play. And all the cities that we go to that have downtown stadiums, we just got back from Cleveland this weekend seeing a Royal's win. All these cities with downtown stadiums have bus wing, storefronts, all the restaurants, all the bars are full before and after the game. It really brings a lot of vibrancy to the downtown area that I don't think we probably have on a lot of Saturday afternoons or even evenings. But I've seen firsthand that these are really good things in the city that we've been to downtown ballpark. All right. I want to be clear.

29:22I love the idea of a baseball stadium downtown. Yeah. I'm just worried that we've not worried. I just wonder if this is the right location. When they were talking about east of downtown, you're just northeast, barely northeast of city hall and the county courthouse. Right. I actually thought that was a really good idea. If you've ever been in that area, it's, I don't want to use word rundown, it's underdeveloped, undeveloped. It's a bunch of, you know, just street level parking spots and it could use, it could use a picker up. And I thought a stadium would look fantastic right there. There's plenty of room. I'm just my biggest concern and I think this is part of Sam's concern. Is there enough room there and do we have the arteries to get there? And because as you know, let's say you're coming in from I 35, northbound I 35, you'd

30:23get off on 20 on the 20th street exit, right? Yes. And there's a tiny little gas station down there that doesn't even have the store. It's just you can put your credit card in and fill up and go. That is one lane. And then you have to turn around other places you could exit. They're going to have to make and they're going to have to make it one way out on the way out, which they will do. They will, they will turn those streets into, you know, you see this at chiefs games. Everybody out, everybody's going down this lane, get out of here this way. They're going to have to do that. But that's on a, that's on a three lane road, actually four lane road getting out and everybody's jumping on to a highway. And if you have those plans, tell us. Yeah. The problem is the process. It just feels so icky. They're like, we're doing it. We don't care. I mean, people literally show up to the meetings and shout and they're like, we don't have any answers for you. Fair point on the text line. How did we handle it during the World Cup experience at the World War One Museum?

31:25They figured it out. Guess what? Remember on the very first day, there were some transportation issues. Guess what? By the next match, by the next time they needed it to work, it did 913 586 77798 here on K MBC. So earlier today, and I know you posted something similar on your Facebook page today, I just wrote the jury in Lindsey Clancy's case is deadlocked for a second time. And people that I know, people that I have known for a long time, people that I know are sane, logical, reasonable, are writing not guilty, husband, dead, it. I'm telling you, man. Hashtag Patrick did it. None of us in this room can admit that we don't know someone who believes in people

32:26in your life. Don't lie. Don't name them. There are people in your lives, both of you who think the husband did it. It's concerning. That's not a denial. I don't know anyone personally that believes it, but I cannot. Oh you do, you just don't know. You do, Sam. Yeah, you do, buddy, buddy. They just haven't told you yet. Why are you two? No. Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching, and it's all over. It is everywhere. We had barely gotten the name Lindsey Clancy out of our mouths today to tell you that the jury was deadlocked for a second time. What happened on the text line, Sam? Immediately. Different people chimed in saying she's going to be found not guilty and they're going to take him to trial. What did Emmett Smith do? And if El legend Emmett Smith is being accused of conning a Native American investor out of $2.5 million as part of an alleged solar project scheme, the lawsuit, which was filed

33:29in Delaware alleges that Kittewa LLC, the investment in economic development arm of the Cherokee Indian tribe loaned the $2.5 million after it was convinced to join the project by Smith, his business partner David Mosley and their real estate company for 13 solutions ink. I've read a poorly written but longer story somewhere else that said he borrowed the money from the Cherokee Indians and then used that to pay off unsatisfied loans that he had received. Right. He said, I'm going to use this money to develop this for you on your behalf, but instead use the money to pay off another predator. Some other loans that he has. Which sort of is the definition? It's Ponzi-esque. It is pie. Did you also see he owes $400,000 in unpaid rent to the Emmett's, his Emmett's restaurant in Vegas has been, I think so has been shut down.

34:30How does he not have any money? He does. He does, I'm sure. Here's what I bet is happening. There's no way that Emmett Smith who played forever, but I know I can already hear people screaming at their radio in the car, but he played when they weren't, you know, salaries weren't $50 million a year. That's true. But probably he's got somebody else handling his money and they're not doing a very good job of it. Emmett Smith, total career earning, $61.275 million preinflation adjustment, his current estimated net worth 15 million. That's it. 15 million. That's part of me. 25. Still, that's it. 25 million dollars. That's it. When you made 61 million. Who's the person that won six million buying a lottery ticket at state line and a hundred third street on Saturday? Is it you? It's not you. It's not. I am. We didn't buy one. He's coming up in two minutes. Thanks for listening to the Dana and Parks podcast.

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