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Yankee information.
Yankee of J's?
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All right.
What do you got?
But there are certain people.
I think you'll be included in this.
I know Jacob probably already knows that he's included in this.
Oh, yeah.
Who will be very excited?
What do you got?
On July 10th, which is a Friday,
and July 11th, which is a Saturday,
at Yankee Stadium.
Jay-Z is performing to celebrate two anniversaries.
What?
So, on July 10th, he's doing the 30-year anniversary
of reasonable doubt at Yankee Stadium.
Woo!
And on the next night, he's doing the 25-year anniversary
of the blueprint on back-to-back nights at the stage.
Oh, yeah.
So, for a certain kind of New Yorker.
Yeah.
On the Venn diagram.
Yankee hat.
The Yankee, the Yankee Jay-Z Venn diagram.
There's going to be a very happy group of people.
And of course, you know, there's really no argument that reasonable doubt
in Blueprint or Jay-Z's two best albums.
So, to have them sell, because when I first saw it,
I thought he was doing Blueprint both nights for 30.
No.
I mean, I'm sorry.
He's been doing his best nights, which is cool.
Because reasonable doubt is amazing.
But from an album standpoint, I'm probably more excited
to see him do the Blueprint 25-year anniversary.
Back to tonight's two.
It's going to be pretty cool.
I look, it's not the Baja men.
All right, but for the Yankees, it's not bad.
You know.
Why does he have to do it?
Why?
It's not bad.
That's a pretty good poll.
It's not Timmy Trumpet.
Why is it, why can't you?
It doesn't make you feel bad, John.
Well, he has to do this.
He can't just say it's enough that you have the biggest rapper of all time
who has to perform at Yankee Stadium again.
Just making a point. That's all now. What's the point that the meds have tried to do things like this to and and you know
Has not hit the same this will be on the DVD right this
Will be on the championship DVD. Oh, this is all star weekend too. You know what I mean?
Like this will be all part of like the the greatness thing. I'm guessing now. Here's the question if it's all star weekend. Yeah
All star weekend is always they'll be back to like do you think it's the
mid-July. No, no, it's mid-July the last day they play on all star weekend. It's usually the Sunday, right?
Yeah, and then they're off that whole week until when Friday
It's a week
Oh, yeah, got it. Okay. Yeah, so so there's a game on Thursday night before. Oh, they played the night before like I said
God, okay, got it interesting. All right, so pretty good. I'm excited man. Good a good pull
No, that's excellent. And again, it'll all be part of the championship DVD now what
What else could be part of it if this is the year the Yankees finally break through and we've been talking about clutch a lot on the show so far
We have tons of calls to get you eight hundred nine three seven seven six that we will we made a list of
All-time great players now you got a MVP caliber to be on this list that just couldn't come through in the clutch and
Having judged currently on the list gives him time to get off the list of course because you don't want to be on this list
But last night was wasn't it another example as much as you want to fight it and we all want to fight it because we know how great of a player he is
That 0-4 with three strikeouts striking out right after
Harper hits an epic home run to get the US team right back in the game get the building back as well
Like on a pitch that you always see him strike out on like just it looked familiar
We had a caller earlier that said it felt like a Yankee playoff game
Yeah, a murderer's role lineup that couldn't score and only could rely on a home run and judge not coming through
Stats will tell you throughout his career. He has had moments people will bring up moments
You know, we somebody came over and said, you know against class A and against Cleveland came through huge in the seventh inning in that series
Yes
But world series big moments those are the things you're looking at
I thought yesterday was an opportunity for him once again to close that conversation and instead it opened it oh
Fact it couldn't close to media did well you got to help it silence is well well well. Well is probably the better word, but
It's all it did to me is almost light a fire on it. I know as much as we're calling it right?
Well, but we're calling it an exhibition. We're calling it a it's a fun series of games
But it's before the season and all that stuff
But for some reason because of him and who he is and how important he is to the sport how big he is is a Yankee
How much coverage he gets people couldn't wait to jump all over the fact that in a moment for the US to win something
He did not come through once. I just want to remind everyone about the word exhibition that we keep using all right
This is an important moment might. I remind you that the fight between Apollo Creed and Drago is an exhibition
This was supposed to be an exhibition
You know that it did it started with James Brown a man died and a man died because because his best friend threw in the towel
One to Marcus and already hit the mat too late so an exhibition could go wrong and it went wrong last night
It did for Aaron Judd. I like how you pulled in Rocky on this because I'm always there for that
I am always there
And because Apollo is acting to be so fun and the whole time Rocky's looking at the highlights and Drago like I don't know
Rocky's like you sure
You've been retired a long time
All right. Yeah, this is not gonna go well for you
Remember Rocky in an exhibition. I mean don't get Rocky knows about a bad exhibition
He had a one with thunder lips also didn't go great with that did not go well
You're also fine and then okay. They got a polaroid together
And that was really what it was all about. I love them. All right. So is it fair is it fair
To the criticism that is coming the way of Aaron Judd and what people are saying and again
Is it also a lot of red socks fans and a lot of meds fans probably
But it is something that once again got loud. It was amplified off of the performance last night
And a great amount of frustration that goes with it. Chris in the Bronx. Chris. What do you say about it?
Oh
I say it's not fair. Um pretty much
You know it's just tournaments and started everybody's talking about exhibition the games don't mean anything
But when it comes to Aaron Judd
It seems like they they want to change their tune
Um, this guy you know during the season if you're a Yankee fan you didn't see these WBC results as
Anything other than just a glorified spring training. So you guys do his thing and you didn't work out the last game
But um
I'm sorry I lost my train of thought but
Pretty much what I'm just trying to get to is that if you're a Yankee fan
You see that he batted 500 in the playoffs last year and you see that that run that that story that he can't get it done
If you watch the games you know that when this even comes he'll do it, you know
I mean um, I just think you know
Using the WBC as an example. That's just met and
Yankee haters, you know, I mean that's that's what I think it is. I mean
There's a lot of stats out there Chris. Thanks for the call
And that that's part of the problem is that you have dueling stats now about his clutch ability
And I think there's a lot of it that is I test for a lot of us who have watched him over his career since 2017
That there were moments that you were like, okay, this is a big moment. We're used to seeing
Great players come through in these big moments. I mean again
Derek Jeter is a guy that wasn't really the best player on the team in those great teams
But man did he always seem to find them like had that clutch moment even later in his career
Let me ask a question Yankee home run for three thousand
Let me ask you to walk off for his last game like just oh, and ask your question Yankee boy
I'm listening and I say it respectfully
Who had the most
Clutch moments of that Yankee team? Is it a given that it's Jeter?
It's Mariana Rivera
I can't I hate that that's not a clutch moment. No, I hate to be that guy
But besides Mariana Rivera because yes, you're right. Oh time and time again. Sandman delivers
I know but besides all of them are off because I'm real time at the abats
That's how we're kind of measuring the judge thing. I guess so
What are you saying Anthony? Yeah, cuz it would it be Bernie uh Bernie, but but it felt like
It felt brochures it the the 98th year. He brochures was unreal in the postseason, but I felt like
Everyone seemed to have that moment. Tino had his first moment
He really needed to have the grand slam. I mean O'Neill
You remember in the comeback in 96 that's right
The the some of the hits that he had running down a fly ball
Like I think it was shared and so if you're gonna push back
That's your best pushback is
Those great Yankee teams that Jeter was part of that Jeter gets a lot of credit for being clutch
Had a lot of guys contributing to clutch
Aaron judge
Who contributes to clutch with him?
Well now stand stand stand in that guy very good in the playoffs. Anyone else
That's the only name that really comes to your mind
That's the problem and so I don't I do think
Clutch opportunities can't always be on the shoulders of one player in a team in a sport like baseball because
You only get the bat four times
But in one of those times if it's a big moment and last night it felt like twice
He had big moment at bats. The one right. I know what you're saying
You said that Bryce Harper's home run took the pressure off him
That's what I thought because it made it to two and now he didn't have to step up with two on or with one on
And come up big if Harper what if you would have thought it judge didn't have to bat thinking if I strike out the games over
The game wasn't over they extended the game. It's two two right turned out to not extend the game
But they seemingly extended the game. Yeah, so I thought now less pressure just get up there and do what you do
Yeah, and it looked like he felt all the pressure no Harper gets out the innings over and then he leads off
Which there's no pressure on a leader. Oh true. It was too out. Yeah, but but if if Harper gets on and now
You've got a chance to knock two in to tie or hit one out to take the lead that would have been the highest pressure
So that's the highest pressures, but but I still think it's pressure home run
The stadiums now going crazy you wake up the American fans were being out cheered. They were
The Venezuelan fans were completely much louder. They took over the building
And now you get the building back momentum. You've maybe got there a little rattled
And you strike out swinging on a pitch that we have seen that got swinging
Anytime and that's
And you moment that must have felt so familiar. Oh, it had to Yankee fans of like it was to me when I watch it again
I admit I was working last night. I didn't watch it live
I watched it this morning and I remember sitting in that bat and when he swings in misses. I'm like that
Is judge the nutshell you have the big moment right before and you're all hyped and like before the crowd has even come down from cheering in the stadium
Judges taking off his batting gloves to walk back out, you know like it ended so quick
You're like no already spitting the gum and batting it away with the bat right like just so frustrating
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Well, we're packed man. We are packed. I'm looking for fitting into the conversation
Bobby and Bill Moore is ready to roll
And I know I know I think he's already ready to freak out
Good Bobby. Hey, guys
How you doing?
Before I get the judge James hot in the worst fourth quarter playoff shooter in history the NBA
The playoffs
Yeah, it's a long fact, but let me talk about judge for a second
You look at his numbers in the final four just the final fourth is 2022
one for sixteen against the aftros
2024
Three for eighteen against the indians the aftls
Well, he was started one for twelve against the dodges
Then in day face an opener and getting it was a series all over and he got a couple of hits
Best forward to this year one for eight in the last two games semi-final against filming in and alpha four last night
That's nine for sixty with a 150 batting percentage
You're telling us LCS world series or
Right to the final four so final four see I
I would go with those because I feel like those are the biggest stages too
And I don't like any of those numbers. I don't like any of them and like you can't argue with numbers
Yeah, yeah numbers don't lie and
You know you want to talk about last year. I mean he didn't have any help. No one. No yank. He didn't even two 50 last year
In the playoffs and it's and I started stunk in the playoffs in against Toronto
So maybe you had a shot, you know, because he was really hot. So that was the thing. I really wanted to say
Yeah, and uh, oh and this year. I mean you've got to look at the Yankees
I mean close coming off Tommy John. Well, then you don't know about the playoffs
He's a hit a miss. He's got over 70 already in the playoffs
Three, you know, pitch well against boys to be with awful good Toronto and this history hasn't been that good in the playoffs either
Another guy, right and I bet that you know
He also gets Toronto, you know, and he has a 200 by now, but you make a more money in judgeship which is hard to believe
He's making four over 40 million the first two years of his contract and could opt out after that
So I don't know what Yankees gave him so much money, but he hasn't done anything in the playoffs last year either and he hasn't been a student
Yeah, he has but Bobby and thanks for the call Bobby the numbers you gave again final four those are that's the biggest stages
You know, you can't argue with them
But I will say though there's two things that can happen right now
For judge it can just be one of those things that he just ignores
He just says I'm not listening to the criticism and just goes back into his robotic kind of way of approaching baseball
Which I think is the best way to describe it. Yeah, he just does seem very robotic and very much like he blocks out all the criticism
or
It becomes the fuel it becomes that frustration for him even where he's now just taking it personal as I said
I thought they should have done two years ago coming out of the world series when they're auctioned off the ball that I dropped
You kid me like I'm out for blood now. I'm out the shit like I want Aaron judge with a damn chip on his shoulder
I don't want Aaron judge just
Robotically going out and just doing my at-bats and I'm just sticking to the program and trust the process
No, I don't want that. I want to see a pissed off Aaron judge. Would you would you prefer an Aaron judge?
I don't think we've seen that yet. This may be obvious, but would you prefer because it let's suppose he needs that mentality
To be the sort of proficient player that he is would you take Aaron judge who batted
25 points lower
had
7 to 10 less home runs a year but seem to have more moments where he stepped up in like the big spot wouldn't everybody
I guess right as it is, but you lose games because of that you his average goes down 20 25 points
Oh, it affects his losing game. No, his his war is a reason why like he is a great player because his impact on winning for the Yankees is
Is notable and that's one of the best stats for him is that he is somebody who contributes to winning
You can't say he doesn't help you win
But we all know what it looks like clutch moments statistically in analytics and clutch moments in what we'd remember or two different things
And there are clutch moments that you remember because it's a moment
Not seventh inning or later all season long that's much different
You know like come on when you watch sports there are clutch moments you'll never forget shots. You'll never forget
Well, we haven't mentioned the guy. There's one guy to mention whose personality in some ways seemed like Aaron judge
Very business like never up never down always straight ahead all right except the difference was all he did
Was beast mode in clutch and that was Eli man
You know, that's a cool like he literally was just phenomenal phenomenal pull you would you would look at Eli
Everybody everybody watch let's take another moment
That's not a strange pull that's a phenomenal. Thank you very much. I think he's having a day. We need a big play phenomenon
You are having a day right now, but Eli Manning is a great example. Yeah of a guy who was very much like judge
In that he really didn't show you emotion didn't really get caught up in things
Didn't want to hear criticism whatever kind of like just went through it
regular season though
He didn't put up epic numbers like judge does but when he got to the postseason who was a killer number one
He was a killer even though it didn't exchange an expression whatsoever
No, he's a guy took a beating in San Francisco
He's a guy that froze his tail off in green bet
Didn't affect him at all win
And then when it came time to make a big throw in a big spot did it twice to get a super ball and then as sort of
He sort of the answer to the question of would you take the trade off of worst player with the clutch gene
Eli Manning was never as sexy as his
Uh, uh, you know
Compadre is in the NFC East right at the time you would have thought at the time
Romo was better than Eli that would have been like hey week to week who do you fear more in your schedule
You probably say Romo over Eli, but guess what one guy shrinks and the other guy shows up with the playoffs on real perfect
All right, Vinnie and statin islands pissed off Vinnie. He always is go Vinnie
They got to get off the iron judges back
Enough is enough this the Yankees would be actually nowhere without this guy. It's true
And another thing is let me ask you a question. Let me ask you guys a question all right if he
Take the C wins in the rest of his career two-ball world series
Does he get that much you off his back? And yes, who good world?
I don't know just one Vinnie. He got to win once. It's the same as Lamar Jackson. Just win one and everybody shuts the hell up
He was pretty he was pretty great to play off last year. You got a win
He wasn't paying the player fashion. I mean they got a win, but you got to get one
We get rid of iron bones. Uh, that's another thing. Can I say one thing about the game last night? Go ahead
I want to take one thing about the game. I say watch the game last night. They're losing one nothing
I think it's the third inning the catcher comes up
You got a two-no count on him and he swings that swings the next pitch, which is ball three
To me that's that's that's the Yankees and Aaron Boone in a nutshell right there
Let Aaron Boone was a Florida watching the game on television
But that's but that's what that's just the idea
It would Vinnie say Vinnie. We got to run but that's what Boone was like. I like that
I know what Vinnie saying we got to run Vinnie, but thanks for the call
What he's saying is what the caller earlier said yeah is that game not just judge that game from a US perspective
felt very much like it totally it gave off experience of so much offensive firepower and
Very very little production. It felt incredibly familiar. You look up and you go. It's the sixth inning already
We have any hits what's going on? It is but that's what again pressure baseball
That's what it's like you've got to be able to have a clutch moment when it matters
Vinnie's well it did hats off to them
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Garry Cole did pitch today. No, he really did pitch today
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Uh before we get back to calls. So Garrett Cole actually pitched today one in it against the red socks
He 53 weeks since Tommy John. He's on the mount and he had he had he right he was good
Yeah, no, he did bring it. He had six fastballs at average 97 miles an hour
I think he topped off at 99 on one of them. He only threw 10 pitches, but still
Uh did not give up a run. How about the first the first at bat first pitch a bunch
Like if you're coming back from Tommy John and like you're just trying to get into rhythm and the first thing that happens
It guys squares for a bunch. I'm thinking about shoulder right into writing your chest serious question for you
What how much money would I have to hand you right now to envelope? Okay, just square up and bunch against Garrett Cole
I'd probably have a better chance
Than swinging oh, oh no, oh no, it's there bet it's 100% your best chance. It's absolutely the only chance
Yeah, I don't know if they're like that can you imagine that no the cubes of a guy you know it's garic
You know, he's just coming back from Tommy John and you're going I'm gonna
Like what are you doing about it? It's spring training. It's spring training, but well, I'm telling you
I hope I don't we do say we do say how often to someone call at least once during the season to go they don't practice budding
So I mean, this is the time really first that bad of the game. It's a little odd. Yeah anyways
Uh, but Nicole you got through it 10 pitches. I believe he was supposed to go to the bullpen and pitching another 20
Just to kind of get the work up now. He's still about two months away from returning
They do have to ramp them up. There's a lot of hurdles. You need more than 10 pitches
More than 10s probably get you're gonna need to get them there
But the good news is though is that he he did it got on the mound pitching
That's a good sign for the Yankees and so I think it's the strength of the team
Their potential pitching rotation by the time we get to the second half of the season on paper
Looks elite and I think that could be the difference
It's so for a guy like judge if there's ever a time to win you can win
When you got great pitching well if that pitching were able to be healthy and elite in the playoffs
The difference that means for that offense is
Rather than thinking about how do we generate six runs with an offense that always seems to tighten up
Tighten up in the postseason. Yeah, it could mean we need three. Yeah
Can you put together three runs and by the way, that will affect the way
I know the boon haters won't like this. Mm-hmm that can affect the way boon can manage a game
Yes, when you feel confident
I only need to get to three runs not to four five, but it also could be you know one nothing zero zero games adds what
Pressure that is that is the part that for Aaron judge he has to continue to prove that he can play pressure
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So two points for a quick on your list. I think Josh Allen deserves honorable mention
Mm-hmm. Yep, he has lost to my beloved chief quite a few times old. He's on my list of uh
Clutch players that didn't come up much. Okay. It's fair great players and vp
But he has I'll just say the reason I still put him ahead of Lamar
Is that he has had the the games were in the playoffs where he's done the opposite of that
He has more marquee playoff way. He's played out of his mind. He's just the rest of the team stinks. Right. Yeah, that's true
Yeah, I want to get to the wbc and my
Aaron judge who I love to death
But there is a fear of doing this a nervousness that you can see when he gets up to that plate
It's like he has the yips. I know you haven't heard that phrase in a while
But that's how I feel like he's got this hitting you. It's interesting because
That's what when we at Kendanico here
That's why I wanted to get into with them when I asked him and he's gonna come back and join us for the watch party later
But that's what it's when you see it in the eyes either of your opponent or your teammate
when you're like
He looks yeah, I scared to tough word for an athlete
But are you nervous anxious uncertain?
Those are things that you can't have in your eyes and
Is does the pressure get to him does he want and you could say this too because I love the point that Nas brought up
And thank you for the call Nas
But it's you could want it too much
That's a real thing
Well, there's multiple versions but you can't just
Namaste. Yeah, do it. Well, there's there's there's so many different versions of athletes like that that we've seen right and you know
And Rod Strickland talked about it with us last week as he gets ready for L.I.U. to play Friday at 130 the tournament
Let's go fins up
Strick said he threw up before every single NBA game he ever played
But guess what afterwards he felt a calm come over him and he was able to to be a top one
You're saying Aaron Judds needs to make himself throw up. That's right before and at that
That is the only way to do it. Stephen Willie Beaman right in the right in the on deck circle
But it would not be a how picture this
Game seven ALCS Yankees down a run
Runner on base
Right the guy in front of him there's one out the guy in front of him fly ball out whatever it is
Judge knows it's all on me
Stix's finger right in his mouth just but I don't know if that would be the right on the field
New guys in front new guys in the quarter pukin his guts out
Exactly. Could you imagine that scene though?
And then he will and then he strolls up to the to home play. Oh my god. I got a care in the world
You know what it's giving what's it giving it's giving rabbit in the bathroom
Before the bat mom spaghetti a mom yeah had to get it out. You got to have that mom spaghetti moment
vomit on a sweater already that's exactly right
But everyone maybe that's what judge needs a little vomit on the pinstripes
How epic would that be?
You know what that would go for an auction how they win the world series
You know what that goes for auction the vomit jersey over the bloody sock. Oh my bloody sock. He's on the table now fake for
Bloody sock the ketchup sock we all know it was ketchup, but
Could you like imagine the the viral moment though of those sitting in those seats right there by the index
I'm just trying to think of the post headline the next. Oh, oh, oh, so he hits a home run
They win the game. What's the headline?
Judge vomit throw up throw down
That's that's that's that's it's workable throw up throw keep working. Let's keep working. Let's keep working. Yeah, we gotta effort this
What else we got like it's um is this is tough to come up with though
I might go give if the case listening
Well, what's the call we'll get a text in two minutes. Oh, what the headline? Oh, don't the Greco Texas. Yeah, because you know
It's three up and three down. This is a throw up throw down. Throw it down. It's not bad. You know what I mean?
Um don't the Greco Texas earlier when you were taking shots at meds
I don't remember taking shots at the meds. You did we're talking about the JZ concert to Yankee stadium
Right, and you said well, I know it's not Timmy trumpet or the ball. I said it's not the ball. I remember it'll do
That's an observation and
Don wrote the group and said the Beatles played at Shay Stadium like I won't say the word that he said at the end
But he wanted to remind you can I see the word that he said at the end? It's a very childish. I don't think you could say it though
I mean, you could legally, but it's not appropriate
Yeah, they played at Shay, but Billy Joel a lot of pounds of the Shay season was over. He also played Yankee stadium
He did also play Yankee. He also mentioned the Yankees a few times in his song
He did
Yeah
Rose he rose. He knows he was credit to the game, but
You know the Yankees get the headlines every time you nailed it. That's one. He was also in Miami 2017 was awesome
Uh, and of course my my my goat Paul Simon reference to Maggio. We have you gone
Now it's Paul Simon being a Yankee fan fraudulent
Why is it fraudulent Queens guy. Yeah
Queens guy, but he grew up in a time where there was no mess. There was no national league team, so I guess he didn't go
Maybe they're maybe baseball. Yeah, it was pre-mets. Yeah, so I became a Yankee fan. Yeah, my mother's the fraud
Because she was a Dodger fan. They left
She then as a teenager we go to Yankee games
Because she loved baseball. Okay, she you know, she should have just become Yankee and then when the meds came
Then she just saw it nationally team woman nationally fan went back to the med
I'd never understood the rooting for a league
I don't I don't care about that. It's a style of play that no longer exists now of course
The nationality of the pitcher hitting because that's baseball
Susan
Let's continue with the calls eight hundred nine one nine three seven seven six
Frank in Long Island wants some wants to give us some recommendation on the clutch list that we made
Frank
Hi guys. Yeah, um, so for me
Armando Benitez is just synonymous for blowing it
When we do the list, we're looking at the best in your sport like the pinnacle MVP level people
You know what I mean? So when we say the greatest players that didn't come up clutch
It's got to be in that criteria
There's many people that we could point to that have had you know that
Had unclutch moments, but I'm talking like we've got it. We've got to have
A standard of you've got to be at this level like all the fame level player
MVP level players, you know what I mean Frank so that it doesn't really work with Benitez. Thank you though
Uh, let's go to Paul and Florida Paul
Hey guys, how are you today good
Thanks, so I was wondering um
I've been calling with just one but down based on what you said about guys who have won
But didn't win enough. I had two other
That I wanted to ask about but my first thing was damn marino
Marino is an interesting one because he did have clutch moments though
He just never got back to a Super Bowl
But I thought during my career he'd had some unbelievable clutch moments
I kind of feel like it's similar to to youwing pat did have some big moments. I got to mix
Through some rounds that he just didn't have the running mate and Patrick's a heart as a very difficult one for me to put on the list
I was strong armed
Okay, um, if I could could I ask about the other two that I thought about you guys brought up Peyton go ahead
Uh, I was thinking about our Rogers and Farve
Uh, Farve ended like three different teams seasons with a pick three years in a row
And they both had some epic teams that probably should have won more titles than just one each
Yeah, Rogers was suggested to us by somebody here
And even I don't put them on the list because
once you win a ring
Like remember these but I like the man in call and I like the Rogers call
Don't ever get because four-time MVP and how many times did he run into a wall one Super Bowl and and the games that were bad too
That championship game a few years. We're not a few. I guess it's like five years ago now at San Francisco
Yeah, remember that game when he just wouldn't run it in completely laid an egg. Yeah, so no he's at his moments. Yeah, no question
That is true. All right, Moria calls eight hundred nine one nine three seven seven six
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Jay and Connecticut with a name for the clutch list Jay. What do you got Jay?
Hey, what's going on guys? We're trying color. Um, we got a question
Um, I didn't hear it at the beginning of you guys list. Did you guys mention Carmelo Anthony on the list did not
No
I don't like this mellow slander. I don't know and I don't know if he's I don't know if mellow could be at that like
Would you put him at that level of the names on this list as far as in his generation?
I mean, he's pretty great
One of the great old time you guys had being hard in on here. I
And James Harden one MP. Yeah, you know what I mean?
You're an MVP. You're an MVP. Did Carmelo have a scoring title? Yes. Yeah, he has a scoring title. Yeah, he does
He does have a scoring title. He has been
No, no, no, let me ask you a question. Uh both you guys Jay were out. Was there one particular like moment in the playoffs though when you really felt like
Carmelo came up small
No, I felt like like look the biggest year for him with the nicks was 2014
At 2013 that playoff
He was
Against the Pacers they lost that for it's typical story of nicks Pacers lose the first game in the whole series goes the hell
But he was in the game to try to force a game. I think it was a game six right game six
Trying to force a game seven
No one played harder than him in that game
He did all he could and then that's with the Roy Hibbert. Remember the Roy Hibbert block
He went up to dunk on Roy Hibbert almost broke the guy's interesting choice. Well almost broke the guy's hand
Like unreal
Like that's how but it was a great block
But he played so hard in that game
I felt like he was trying to carry the team the Celtic series the two the year before two years before
I thought also the same story. So sorry Jay. I just don't think mellow
Would be someone I put on that list. I just don't think he was in enough of those and you forget in Denver
That team went to a conference final and he was epic in that run as well
They lost to the Lakers no shame there. I like Jacob. I'd like you to get both a name drop and uh stranger
Oh, yeah, Roy Hibbert
I'm hung out with him many times
Dipper seen my manager is very close to Roy Hibbert. Okay, like
Merit man unusual like there's no reason for them to be there's no reason for Dipper seen who's all a five foot five
To be that close with Roy Hibbert who when you hang out with him
No, he's an astoundingly large man. Okay. I mean he is just a but what a sweet guy. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep
Hell to play. You know how to great career, too. Yeah solid career. Oh, it's gonna rob a new jersey with another one
Billy Wagner. Good Lord. This guy never never was crushed ever ever
Well, how could that be? He's in all the fame. Yeah, Billy Wagner. Yeah, exactly. Look it up
Root 2006 on the map
Be it well. I figured that's never in a world series
Okay
But great enough to be honest. He great enough though. Even though he's a Hall of Famer and some people were wondering like
Is he really a hall of like did he qualify but he did he got voted
But is he made the whole actor is yeah, I get that but was he on the level of the best in his sport at the time he played it
Uh, I didn't mean the whole fame
I know that's but there are compilers who make the Hall of Fame, right? But they were never close to the best in the game
Rob, it's a good effort. We'll give you the effort. We appreciate it, but I don't know if I'm
John
Winthrop our resident met fan
Would you would you say Billy Wagner is on that list of people that you're like man this guy was never clutch
Infuriated you but as it was he great enough to be on that
He said, but well, we had another cause. Hey Benitez. So Benitez was the one that more than what amount of Benitez was frustrated
You more as a fan than Billy Wagner. I was just a Honest Wacker who I was a big fan of. Yeah, whereas Don knows him
Hornets
Hornets was the bruh in a couch and found like a harness Wagner rookie card or site
Harlan you never know harness Wagner
Honest was born as a hornet
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