HOUR 3: Now the government will pay you to be a stay at home parent?

0:00You're listening to the Dana and Parks podcast on KMBZ. The border war is Friday night. Oh yeah. 7 p.m. Mizzou versus KU. Mizzou's favorite Dana. Yep. By like not a lot, by the way. This is the first time that that Mizzou and KU will play in Lawrence since 2005. Yeah. Yeah, I think two years ago was in Columbia. Arrowhead. I thought it was an arrowhead. Maybe it was arrowhead. We'll see what happens. I know what's gonna happen. I love your optimism, but as a KU fan, we know what's gonna happen. It's not gonna be pretty. Like I asked the guys in the sports department. I said, are the royals mathematically eliminated yet? And Carrington looks and he goes, not yet, but and then Rob goes, might as well be. Well, might as well be is not, yes.

1:02They did lose last night. What? The royals lost? You're still holding out, huh? Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. Okay. A little bit. You wanted to talk about 9-11. I do. I, let me call up the name of the thing. I spent this morning watching a documentary on Netflix. It's relatively short and it is a Sam. It is called Turning Point Generation 9-11. And you know, when you're scrolling around for content as we marched toward this 25th anniversary. I can't believe that. It can be overwhelming because so many documentaries have been done. There have been so many documentaries, right? This is a 2026 documentary. It's an hour 30. Oh, that is a Sam. And I really do think it's worth a watch. Turning Point, it is on Netflix, Generation 9-11.

2:04So Turning Point is a series where they do other things as well. If I'm not mistaken. It's very well done. It can be Turning Point Titanic. One of the things they do is they interview relatively young people like Sam's age. And you know, they all start out by saying I was two years old when it happened. Or I was four years old when I was six months old when it happened. They interviewed the daughter of the pilot that was on the plane that would be downed over Shang'sville, Pennsylvania. And you know, she talks about she has this like alternative in her mind, this struggle between the life that she has. And she knows. And this other life could have been over here because she never knew her father. And what the life she was supposed to have might have looked like. But one of the interesting things about it, and we don't talk politics on this show, but I'm going to mention this only because it spans multiple administrations, is that in the wake of those attacks, we were all raw raw,

3:05do what you have to do to exact whatever justice looks like. And quite frankly revenge. Oh, sure. Right after those attacks, right? And it gets into the sort of the war powers that quickly almost unanimously were signed into law. Some of like the Patriot Act. Giving the then president, you know, the Department of Homeland Security was born out of that. Like all of the things that if you're listening in your 20s or 30s or 40s right now, you've never really known life without those things, right? You've never known life going on doing airplane, and you've got to put all the stuff in the bin. All of this stuff was born out of 9-11. And it talks about the problem, post 9-11, with the American public sort of allowing, certainly Congress allowing those unchecked powers. And then everything that came after it, we're in the beginning, of course, God. We want to burn it down. Let's go find who did this.

4:05Let's give the president the pen and you go. And I think it was almost unanimous. America was like, yes. We were fearful. Yes. We felt like we had been violated. Yes. And we had. Yes. And I think that there were a lot of things in Americans in any other time would not have accepted. But, you know, it happened so quickly. And I heard somebody in one of the cable channels today say, this was the first time, and it hasn't, you know, not the first time, but this was the most in your face terrorism attack. That the United States had really ever, or at least in the common era, had seen witnessed firsthand. You know, for so many of us, it was, you know, terrorism was something that happened over there. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it didn't happen here. And we were afraid. Let's be honest with ourselves. We were pissed. We were afraid. We didn't know what was next. They didn't know what was next the next day. One of the things that survivor, survivors that they interview talk about,

5:07is when you're watching that footage, it's hard to put into words, the real terror and fear that in that moment, we didn't know if another bomb was going to happen. We didn't know whenever it's out the building. We were going to fall down. We didn't know the next day if there was going to be an attack. And the documentary really gets to the heart of how this has shaped an entire generation of people who were barely or not even alive when this happened, right? And they interview people who signed up for the military Scott, for all of the right reasons I am going to sign up and we are going to go fight this war on terror. And some of them are shockingly, um, frank about their views when we started out. We're going to go after the bad guys, right? And then where we've ended up. And what do you mean by that? Well, sort of, I want to get you into it. One of the soldiers is like, we did all of this and fought and, you know, in for the right reasons in the beginning.

6:08And then because of the vacuum that was left when this war happened, it's just backfilled with, with more bad people under a different name. And, and politically, this is not going after President Bush at all. I think, you know, the America did what it thought needed to be done in the immediate aftermath. Let's like, let's go. They haven't reversed it. But should it have stayed and it talks about the Obama administration and the drone strikes, all of the collateral damage that we saw from, quote, targeted drone strikes. And then all the way up to present day. And, and why we are here and what it means globally. And it's very well done. Sam, what were you going to say? Just to Dana's point, the fact that we went in there to take care of the Taliban. I'll use the term take care of. And now they're not only back in power, have a larger hold on the country. And the firepower that they are using was built by us. That is correct.

7:09That is correct. It is called turning point generation 9-11. And when you think generation, think those who never really knew mom or dad. Because, you know, we're really knocking at the door of this entire generation of people that this truly is something that they mention in school, Scott. Well, you got to think, I mean, now that we're in another war in the Middle East, how many years of peace has the average or the typical American who's 25 years old actually experienced? How much, how many years? Four, five? There were only four when we did not have an active conflict in the Middle East. And then I just want to mention this because this is bittersweet, but it did bring a smile to my face. The White House today awarded the presidential Medal of Freedom to a man named Wells Crowther.

8:09You know him. He's the man in the Red Bandana. Credit it was saving more than a dozen people from the World Trade Center on 9-11. His mother and his sister accepted the Post-Germus Award. The nation's highest civilian honor during a ceremony paying tribute to the first responders who died today. And if you've missed the documentary, the man in the Red Bandana, my god, that's another one, go back and watch that. You know, Sam, I don't feel sorry for your generation, but I want to because you guys have never really known a nation at peace. Yeah, I mean, and then you take in all the different story lines that we hear about it. I mean, Dana brought up the strikes under the Obama administration. We were fed certain messages that entire time. That was about the time that I started obsessing over politics was because we were fed certain messages. And then they would interview people from those countries. And it was like, well, wait a minute. Who's telling the truth here? What's actually going on? And yeah, I don't know.

9:11You know, and the two wars that came out of 9-11, specifically Afghanistan to a lesser degree, Iraq, it's hard to argue that we won either one of those wars. I don't think we've won any of it. Quite frankly, we've taken out some scary leaders, some scary terrorist organization leaders. One of the soldiers says, what are we doing? I mean, think about it. Other than the Cold War, which really wasn't a war, what's a war that the United States is one in your and my lifetime? Going down a rabbit hole. You're going down a rabbit hole? That would just be going down a rabbit hole. I mean, I think they would have said that Operation Iraqi Freedom was over like that. Oh, I forgot about Kuwait. You're right. Little to no casualties. But then did that not just create other problems? I don't know. 9-13-586-779-8586-779-8 You're on Damon Parks.

10:21Story here from CBS News, Patrick Clancy, Lindsey Clancy's ex-husband issued a scathing statement to conspiracy theorists who have been claiming that he was involved in the deaths of the couple's children. Quote, there will be consequences. He should sue everybody. Enough is enough. This spread of blatant and baseless falsehoods must stop. He said through his attorney Howard Cooper, as attention to Lindsey Clancy's trial and testified over the summer, some conspiracy theory started to spread online, claiming that Patrick Clancy could be responsible for the crime, even though that never came up in court. In fact, he was the first witness to testify against his wife, which ended with a mistrial last week. Jerry deadlocked. Lindsey Clancy admitted through her attorney that she killed their three children in their Massachusetts home in January of 2023, but she pleaded not guilty to first degree murder. No, I think all these people making these claims are absolute loons.

11:23That's why we've made fun of them for weeks on end. However, does it, does it dressing it not provide some legitimacy to ignore it, dude? You know what you didn't do. No, but if you've got that many people, he's damned if he does and he damned if he don't, because you got that many people saying, well, I think that's been at some point, do you not have to defend yourself and say enough is enough? I see where you were both of you are coming from, but I'm with Dana on this one. I mean, people are online who have no idea what they're talking about. Okay, we can all agree to that, right? That these are just truly conspiracy theories. Corrazy. Yes, crazy. And they're accusing you of the worst day in your life when the day that you lost your three children and they're saying you did it, even though there is zero evidence to back up what they are claiming. I don't blame, I mean, I'm assuming that there will be consequences.

12:26He's talking about defamation. I mean, notice not one legitimate news source has even touched that. No, it would be a joke if they did. And there's a reason they're not touching it. Number one, you're going to be sued because it isn't true. Well, CBS is why we're just festering on the internet. CBS has picked it up only because he now said there's going to be consequences. I'm going after the people who did this, said this. I mean, is doesn't he have to prove though the negative impact to him? No, because he's a private citizen arguing for devil's ad. You just have to prove malice. You just have to prove malice and it is malicious. Now, where do you begin? Do you do you sue, you know, Marge in Southern Florida, who's bored and has nothing better to do than then get on these websites? Like he's going to have to find, you know, I say sue everyone in air quotes, but who, where do you begin and who do you sue? You only sue the biggest content creators because Joe Schmoh is not going to have a pocket to pull from.

13:26Yeah, I mean, info wars wouldn't even touch this. I was almost going to say it took a, it's a long time, much too long, but it's finally what brought that dingbat down. Alex Jones. Yes. Um, refuse to say his name. Okay. But I mean, even the crazy conspiracy theory content creators weren't even touching this one because there's nothing there. I, but I go back to what I said to both you and Dana last week. You all know someone who believes that Patrick Clancy did it. And we need to have a serious conversation about the aftermath of this mistrile situation. First of all, we've already seen a Lindsey Clancy obsessed woman. I don't even want to get into the gruesome detail. And Chicago child has is now gone. I'm sure is going to claim postpartum psychosis because she was obsessed with Lindsey Clancy. The child was two.

14:27And you're right, Sam, that neighbors immediately were like, this is just like Lindsey Clancy. I got, you know, I said earlier, you'd be very careful. I mean, I think it's a little greenlighting that behavior or at least glossing over that behavior. And what was done in that case or we're going to have a slew of other cases where people are trying to claim rightly or wrongly that that's what was going on when the unthinkable happened. And then we were at the lake over the weekend and we were in a cove just hanging out. And you know, you can overhear the other people party in and hang out. You can hear their conversations. I heard multiple groups talking about Lindsey, the Lindsey Clancy trial. And I also heard two separate groups of people make the joke. Oh, I'm a woman. I can get away with it. Because of my hormones. Wow. From the text line, I am really shocked and baffled by y'all's stance on this. I can't think of a time that I have not been on the page with y'all. But to call us conspiracy theorists or crazies for thinking Patrick is responsible,

15:30I am just mind blown right now. I am so shocked right now. I'm even angry to some extent at the thought that he just should have stayed home. He was working from home. And I've said this before, when something like that is going on in your house and someone is struggling and they are getting care because she was, are you just, are you supposed to quit your job until you lose your house and you lose your livelihood and just stare at that stare at that person. I don't know what he was supposed to do. Never leave the house ever. Is she, was she in a physical condition where she could not have gone and got, I'm not blaming anybody here. No, I know you're not. I'm not blaming him. Like could she drive? Could she go get on those myths? I don't know the answer to that. So she function reasonably, she went to the doctor's office that morning with her daughter and had a well check at the pediatricians office. Was she the driver of the car? I believe he was not there when that went down that morning.

16:32She was functioning well enough that she had committed herself at some point and been released. Look, the system failed and often fails new mothers. I have nothing but sympathy for anyone who's gone through that and struggle to find help or don't have the resources to find help. Simply just saying this is his fault is it's a shiny object. My opinion is irresponsible. But I think that the, first of all, the people who are saying, you know, Patrick Clancy did this or he shouldn't have left the house that day and gone to get her meds and I think Chinese take out or something like that are the same people who want to believe that she is not guilty. And the only way that you can rationalize that she is not guilty is by saying, well, he must have done it and he threw her out of a window, which there is absolutely zero evidence to back that.

17:34And if there was, she has one of the fiercest, best criminal defense attorneys in the country. Don't you think that would have been their defense? If this was so true and so believable, that attorney would have said, you know what, we're going to offer an alternative theory and here it is. And he did not do that. In fact, they conceded that she killed those kids. Why would he, his whole job is to offer the most robust defense, get his client out of what she has found herself in. Why would the attorney not have said, you know what, we're just going to say he did it. And I didn't. I have not been that impressed with a defense lawyer in a long time. He was good. Why do you think this particular case is so divisive? Since the mistrial, I've seen hundreds of postings about all of the men out there and women, quite frankly, who were diagnosed with schizophrenia and killed their kids, who were diagnosed with XYZ and killed their kids. Many of them, by the way, got the death penalty in their respective states.

18:35Lisa Montgomery, Sam. Why is this particular case such a, I don't know, tender box? I don't know. Young attractive family certainly doesn't hurt the attention that this case ended up getting. And I said it to you guys in the newsroom last week. I'll say it on the air. When you see pictures of Lindsey Clancy pre-arranged, you know, she quote looks normal. And she's very attractive. And I don't think that hurt her. Well, when we get back, a very controversial proposal, controversial on both sides of the aisle, by the way, where they are considering a new policy in the United States that would sort of pay, stay at home parents under certain circumstances. What? Oh, yeah. But there are some qualifiers.

19:38There are some qualifier, not everybody who stays home with the kids would get paid. Who's going to pay them? The government. Oh, because we're not $40 trillion in debt right now. 913-586-779-8-586-779-8. You're on Dana and Parks. You're on the news. Story here from news nation, but it was first reported by the New York Times. You can also find it on the Fox News website. The news is read from the New York Times. Well, I can't, I can't get in there. You have the subscription. I don't have it. Go ahead. Continue on. Okay. The Trump administration has drafted a proposal that would pay some stay at home parents using funds from a federal program originally designed to help working families of Ford childcare. The stay at home parent childcare subsidy proposal, I mean, when a, that's kind of wordy. A originated within the White House, according to a White House official who spoke with

20:41news nation. Early reports had said the proposal came from Vice President J.D. Vance's office. It doesn't matter. It's the same administration. The New York Times reported the plan would create what could become the first federal grant program to directly compensate parents for staying home to raise their children. The proposed benefit would apply only to married couples. Funding would come from the Child Care and Development Fund, a program created during the Clinton administration to help low income and working class families pay for childcare. Okay. There's more. If you want. Oh. Oh. The program currently provides about $9,000 per child annually with funds typically paid directly to childcare providers. Under this proposal, eligible stay at home parents could receive payments directly from the federal government.

21:41Okay. There's some qualifications. Well, you have to be married. You do have to be married. Once spouse working at least 35 hours a week, have this, the other spouse stay home to care for the children. And then there are some income requirements. The goal here for being honest is the family first forward before elections goal. That we want a traditional parent. They don't say the woman, but you know that they mean the woman staying home to watch the kids and they are going to incentivize that. What if I am a woman who is single because I'm widowed? Because my husband happened to be a firefighter or police officer who died in the line of duty. Single parents would not qualify. It says it right there. Why don't we just start paying everybody? You realize the move would also redirect the money that fund is usually for

22:50low to middle income families who need help. Like we're both working. We're both trying to make ends meet. Can't afford daycare. In essence, this would move that money from working families who need it to incentivize moms staying home and let's say it's $9,000. In order to stay home in this economy, Scott, does one spouse not have to make a pretty significant amount of money? Or am I wrong? One of the parents to stay at home? Yep. Forgo your salary and stay at home. Yeah, I think in today's day and age, but that's largely a creation of our own. Oh, yeah, we've created that. We've got to live in three car garage houses and everybody's got to keep up with the Joneses. So my home in Rowland Park years ago in the 50s and 60s was a typical suburban

23:51home. Yeah. It was a three bedroom one bath one car garage home still is. Now you've got to live in Leewood or Western Shawnee or Southern Overland Park. About 80% of the almost 900,000 families who currently get the child care subsidy credit, okay? 80% have single working parents and most of them are mothers. The policy change would effectively create a government incentive for parents in married households. To stay home. I've also read this is a broader, broader goal is to get more people to have children. We've talked about that with Sam. No one has aged. None of them are lining up to have kids right now. I find absolutely unbelievable that you are 29 years old and you don't have any friends or Mary Beth have any friends that have kids. Yeah, I did do a little bit more thinking and I,

24:53when you extend our friend net to people we don't talk to a whole lot. It's one. We have one. That's one. I don't know. Do we really think that this is an actual proposal or is this just a group of politicians looking to beef up their voter base? I'm being honest. The money, Sam, the problem is the money already exists. This would funnel it from one group of families currently. Receiving the subsidy to another. Well, and to your point, Dana, the people who actually need it the most are the single moms or single dads who have to go to work. I don't have a significant other. I have to go to work. My job doesn't pay me enough to take care of the house or the apartment, a reasonable car and daycare. Daycare is outrageously expensive.

25:53Now, if you're married and you're lower income, go on you and hear some money according to this proposal. But if you're single and for reasons who knows, maybe it was a violent relationship, maybe your spouse died. Those are the people I would argue need the help. Am I wrong? What if you're married and you're receiving the money and then you divorce? Let's say you are fleeing an abusive situation. For every, for every, you know, raw raw, this is going to be great. You can come up with, yeah, but what for this scenario? Same. I can't get a second job. I have to stay it. Who's going to take it? I know you. I was just adding on to it. From the text line, if you're a single mom, just go get married, problem solved. I feel like we're trying to fix a problem that's not the problem. Tell me more. I mean, there are many, many factors going into why people aren't having kids.

26:55It's not just the cost. And we can address the cost side of it from the cost side of it, not the paying for it side of it. Why is daycare so expensive? Why are all of these, why is housing so expensive? We can address these things incrementally over time, just because we've absolutely ruined the entire system, doesn't mean we should just start pumping more money on it. That's probably how we ruin the system in the first place. And I'll tell you this, Sam, when you start a family, and I'm not telling you anything, you don't know, that childcare payment every month is the equivalent of a mortgage, a mortgage payment. Yeah. Be ready. And to your point, Sam, maybe that is why young American adults are not having kids. We're barely able to make the mortgage now. And then you want to add another $1,500 a month onto that? How are we going to get that money? It's going to Justin and Shawnee. Hello.

27:55And I don't know where you're getting your child care cost. We've created $680 a week for two kids. That is about $36,000 a year in child care. So I don't know what this $9,000 is going to do for anybody. As a side note, I'm in my late 30s, and we didn't have our first kid until we were 35 and well established in careers. $9,000 is going to do nothing. It's a pittance. $680 a week for two of them, Justin. And is that for two children or one? That's for two children. Two. Okay. For what we found is about standards from what we found. But even still, that's more than our mortgage payment is a month by about $1800. I mean, when our kids are out of child care, we're going to do rich. High-revebr- Well, just I remember saying this and then you will eventually trade that for like, oh gosh, now they're going to college. But you know, they're always expensive. You know that for soccer or for sure. Yes. But and forgive me on my outdated numbers, Justin.

28:57My daughters are 25 and 21. I haven't paid child care in years. I do. I just remember it was more than the mortgage payment. I wouldn't create it for anything, but I mean $9,000. I don't really see how that's good. And that, and for me, that might sound pretentious, but $9,000, what is that really going to fix for a stay-at-home mom with or say at home dad if the one who is working and there's income requirements? Like, what is that honestly going to do? Like maybe I'm maybe I'm. You're not just. And because let's say you're making $50,000 a year, they're going to give you nine that's before taxes I assume to stay home. Well, I would assume that they're if it's a government program like that, a benefits program. I'm assuming they're not going to give you 9,000 and then take 2,000 back. Okay. So let's say it's nine. Let's say you're making $50,000 a year. So you are then for going, $41,000 a year to stay at home for nine.

30:00And to Justin's point, that math doesn't math. Now, you want to pay me $50,000 to stay at home? Then we'll start talking numbers. 913-586-779-8586-779-8. From the New York Post, Americans are flocking to the movies again and they are back for more than just the flicks. Theodore operators across the US are reporting the spendiest summer in years. Spendiest. As the nation rediscovered the classic joys of seeing the latest Hollywood fair in a packed house, raking in a whopping $4.6 billion in domestic ticket sales from May to August. That's just May to August. Said to be the best number since 2013. One chain reports that even the streaming diehards who still refuse to leave their homes

31:01are finding a way to participate in the fund by ordering giant bags of takeout popcorn. When we went to go see Kioe versus Acme, go see it. Hilarious. They were running a special where you could bring in any bucket. I don't know if there are parameters on this, but they were saying like, I don't know. We went and saw the movie Saturday. And I think it was like, if you come back Sunday, we'll fill your bucket with popcorn. Think like Home Depot Orange Bucket. That's a little too much popcorn. That being said, we got a small popcorn. Scott small. Is movie popcorn not the greatest thing you've ever had for the first like four handfuls? I hate popcorn and I like movies. Yeah, it's got the butter. It's nostalgic. You're like, oh my gosh, this movie popcorn is incredible. This is so good. And then about your fifth or sixth handful, it's like, and then like an hour later, you're like, uh, what just happened?

32:02Because your body is like, what the hell are you doing? You just ingested three tubs about it, right? But it's still so good. So when they say, we'll fill your bucket. Who is going to go in there and eat like that much? They're not. They're going to take it home. Does it keep? I don't think so. AMC, which has roughly 850 theaters nationwide reported this week that food delivery sales. So like, think of DoorDash or Uber Eats, they're going to the movie theater and getting popcorn and then have it delivered to your home so you can watch streaming. No, AMC reported this week that food delivery sales are up almost 50% year over year. I never even would have thought about that. But if you're doing a movie night with the family and you want to just sack out on the couch, right? That is a great thing to order. Or just can you just walk into a movie theater and tell the ticket guy, look, I'm just here for popcorn. I promise I'm not here to scam you out of a movie.

33:03I just, I'm going to go there, get popcorn, come back. Probably not. Would be my guess. I bet you they let you. AMC's mega bag offering an oversized portion package for takeout with a side of butter typically sells on the app for $25 before fees and tips. Wow. So you're going to stream at home. Yep. But you're going to get the mega bag from AMC. That's 25 bucks. I love it. By the way, Spider-Man led the box office this summer, of course, and then followed by the Odyssey. Story here from Channel 9, severe storm swept through Kansas City on Sunday night is everybody remembers leaving significant damage. And I think Sam, you mentioned this in passing earlier at the Salah, Santa Calagon days festival in Independence wins up to 60 miles per hour. Left shredded tent roofs, scatter merchandise, food debris, all over the grounds, officials reported no injuries despite the destruction.

34:03Sam, didn't you tell me that some of the vendors reported 100% merchandise loss? All of their merchandise that they had out on display was gone. Then listen to this, couple struck by lightning while walking on Florida trail. Two people were rushed to a central Florida hospital on Wednesday. Last week after they were possibly quote struck by lightning, walking together on a trail. First responders got there. Two people were on the ground. One wasn't breathing. There was a 911 call. They said, we think we have been struck by lightning. Male was bleeding from the face when they got there's no question this was lightning. They did CPR. I think they're both going to be okay. What are the odds? They're struck by lightning? Together as a couple. Well, you're right next to each other, aren't you? Well, yeah, but does lightning strike you or does it strike the ground? And then you are, do you know what I'm saying?

35:04Thank God, I don't know. It strikes the ground. So when we see a lightning strike, we think of it as one strike. In fact, it is actually millions of strikes. That's the only way we can see it. If it struck only once, we would not see it. Really? It strikes the ground and it strikes millions of times. And that's why if you are near somebody else getting struck, you too will get struck. That's why folks who my dad has a story where he was driving along and it struck like 15, 20 feet to his left. And he felt the electricity, believe it or not, in his truck through the tires, through the whole nine. He felt it. He could just feel the electricity coming off the strike. So I have not been struck by lightning, but when I was a young reporter at KOF O'Donand, Ottawa, I was driving back to Lawrence one evening and lightning struck right next to my car. It is the brightest light you've ever seen without it. I was blinded. Tell her you blinded by the light. I was blinded by the light where you revved up like a dude in the middle of the night. It's a doose, not a doose.

36:05I should say that and could we please not that is a horrible lyric. Who wrote that song? I don't know. He's springsting. Terrible. It's a great song. It is a great song. News is next. You're on Dana and Parks. Thanks for listening to the Dana and Parks podcast. Remember you can catch us online anytime at KMBZ.com.