Hour 3: Phil Simms on Geno's Return to NY & Ty Simpson's Potential

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Barton Carlin. Phil, it's here he is helping us examine the free agent quarterback options

and especially as we lead up to the draft, you will be with us every Wednesday at noon

to break down the draft quarterbacks and Phil, I think this was probably the best part

of your appearance last week.

We should call this. I thought that maybe we should call this segment the sims car because

like a sim car, a phone and communication don't work without a sim card. What do you

think about that?

I think it's awful. It hit the spot right away. And your broke part spirit, which was outstanding.

Well, I got to say this, right? You know, I don't know what the hell a sim card is or whatever

he's talking about. How can I say I loved it? See, but it's all good. This is why I love

about me and Phil's relationship is directing straight forward. No hurts villains here.

Exactly. I cried in the car, but I ain't crying for you, Carlin.

Well, you, yeah, you a mister can't wait. Did you make t-shirts up of that when you said that

later? Did you? Well, you know, so yeah, you know, I coined the fairies and I bought it

and bought the, I forgot what you call it, but the rights to trade. Yeah, that trademark

and then I used the, I made t-shirts and made about only 60 grand or something like that.

And I gave it to Erick Le Grand to handicap, assess rises house, but also what, how much

money could you have made if not for Brian Shottonheimer? Yeah, I believe that's not really

one. I did just thought they were going to have this whole can't wait campaign. Like, no,

no, sorry, buddy. I own all that. So Brian Shottonheimer roughly owes him about $4 million.

Exactly. And he got it now because he had coach of dollars. Cowboys. He got it now.

Not even with interest. Just gave my money back running the damn ball four times, Shottie.

How about that? Yeah, there you go. Well, you think you have a problem running the ball in the

NFL. Like I think I said last week, they sure as hell don't know how to run it and call it

football either. So it's the epidemic. I tell you what, who won't have problems running the ball.

Now, man, you see what you're, what harbs is trying to do to your giants, make them tough guys

again by bringing in tough guys. Oh, well, yeah, there's many things about that. As you look at

the giant size, they are likely, you know, one of the, I guess, I don't know what title Greg Roman

down in Baltimore. So he just said, they had four tight ends at one time in Baltimore. Yeah,

and I was talking to him. He goes, hey, Phil, you just can't have enough tight ends. And you know,

the other ones patch were cards, you know, the fullback. Yeah, 300 to 300 pound fullback. Yeah,

what we're going to call it, what we're going to call him in and him in scataboo's package,

like the meathead package. Oh, yeah, I think you mean me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.

Yeah, the end of all, we call the crew, we call the crew, we call it our captain caveman.

Well, that's the one thing that, you know, you just know now the New York giants are going to

go in there. And yeah, they got the quarterback, they need a receiver, which I'm sure they'll get

in the draft, but they're going to be tough running the football. And then when you have a quarterback

that has runs called for him and designed, which Greg Roman, I'm sure is excited about that,

that it's, you know, that's, that's a lot. It's, it should, should be big improvement,

for sure, with the giants on the offensive side because of who's coaching them now.

I try and tell everybody, like, like, I don't like want to bear to lead. I know they know Greg

Roman from what he did for Colin Kaepernick. I know they know what he did for Lamar Jackson,

but I try and tell him that his ability to put together a run package goes far beyond that,

because he was the run game coordinator when Jamal Lewis ran for 2,000 yards when I was a part of

the box more ravens. So he's, he's always been a part of that. So one thing you guys can count on

that you guys are going to run the football, even though he's not the offensive coordinator,

you're going to be able to have great schemes, great schemes and stuff like that, which should

benefit Jackson Dart because the more that they run the ball, the more he doesn't have to run the ball.

And that, and that's, that's a good thing for his longevity and his long term health.

Yeah, listen, running the football makes your team tougher because, you know, you don't just turn

it on on game day, you're out there, you're practicing the run game during practice,

during the week. And sometimes, you know, how that goes, they can get a little rough. And,

you know, I used to hand the ball off on like a Wednesday too, that 9 on 7, they caught with this

run game. And, you know, I'm still sore from the game and we would run it up in there and I hear

hitting that go, oh my god, how these guys do this. But, you know, that's part of who your team is,

but like I said, it carries over to everybody. And Matt Nagy is going to be in Greg Roman.

They're going to work together. It's going to be a great, it's just going to be a good thing for

the Giants and it's kind of good to see him get back to who they, when we think of the Giants,

at least I still do, that, you know, it's about toughness and of course running the football is always

part of that. Yeah, because they was soft as hell the last couple years. This is keeping it real.

They've soft, you know, I'm standing out there. They wouldn't, they couldn't bust a grape in a fruit

fight. But now, maybe they can. Yeah, we'll see. And, you know, that brings me to this other thing

that I've been thinking about this morning. I mean, the Giants, they just said to hell with it.

We're going to go out there and just get us a whole new starting defense and whatever. And

in some, everybody call me, what do you think? What do you think? And I said, I'm going to tell you

what I like at a lot. And what they're doing or trying to do. They've had production. It's not

about potential, which you, when you have draft picks. So in it, and the first guy jumped out to

me, Bart, you tell me, Chris, tomorrow, Davis, man, I mean, I've known him when he was down there trying

to stay on the team with the jet. He would be in the gym that I used to go to twice a day working out,

having somebody there to come and teach him how to do other things. And he is going to make a

difference just with his attitude, practice meetings. And he's all in. So that's pretty cool.

I was glad to see him come back to the jet. Yeah, they got one. They got one at every level. You

know what I mean? Rather you talk about make up his Patrick. You talk about Phillips. You talk

about the, uh, what's his name? Abada. Keepada. Chipada. On your mother. Yeah. Close enough.

Yeah. Yeah. So they, they got professionals at, at every level. But how did you like the Geno

Smith calling, you know, coming back? You know, I think Carl and thinks he sucks and it doesn't

matter. But I think at least he brings a guy that if you can, can't run the ball,

that he can at least has an arm that's willing to put the ball down and fill and push the ball

down the field, try and get some explosive plays. Well, you know, I loved it a lot. I've been talking

about it for weeks. The Geno Smith would be probably the perfect fit, the bridge quarterback,

whatever you want to say about it, you know, and you can't, I don't think you can downplay

as talent. I mean, he's out there in Seattle for years back in up Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson,

you know, goes to Denver and immediately they named Geno Smith the quarterback. And somebody,

you know, said to Pete Kara, why, why did you do this? And he says, well, I've been watching

for years and week after week and day after way, day, destroying my defense when we're practicing

for the other team. But he's the scout team quarterback. And then of course, they were again in,

you know, in Las Vegas. I mean, come on, you know, to judge a quarterback in certain situations

and be hard on it, it's just wrong because they weren't bad. They were horrendous. And Chip Kelly,

I don't know why that happened. Right. God, but he's running things they used to run into Oregon.

That doesn't work in the NFL. But in Oregon, he was very successful as a college coach,

because he was the first guy to say, we're just going to go fast. It wasn't about, hey,

if they blitz, we're going to pick it up, throw deep down the field. No, let's just go fast. That's

the answer to everything. It worked for a lot of years, but it sure didn't work at the end. And

college and it didn't work. It didn't work with the Raiders last year and all either. And it would

have helped if you had Brock Bowers into Kobe Myers. Phil Simpson. Let me do this real quick about

the Jets. You know, they got all these, I was writing down some of the eights of Geno 35,

sweat 24 on Yamada 33, Fitzpatrick 29. And I said, you know what you got. So when I liked about it,

you know, a lot of times, Bart, you know, want to hear you, but you got guys that are mad as hell.

They, you know, they want to stay in the game. They change teams and they're not looking just

for this year. They went and busted up so they can hang in for a couple years. And I, that's the way

I look. And, you know, I'm met with a shoe, the coach in Indiana, the coach in that. Yeah.

Yeah. And I said to something to him once he goes, listen to me, Sims. You know, he had, you know,

he was, he was almost kind of scary, but he goes, I want production. I don't care about potential.

Ever since he said it, I go, damn, that's a good line. He wants guys to produce. Don't tell me

about some of that might produce. And, you know, so that's kind of what we got going with the

jets. I have no qualms of what they did. And, you know, their whole big thing is Geno Smith.

He's got the arm. He's big. He can play in the pocket, run the offense. And I guess, you know,

we're going to find out here soon in the draft. Who's going to be the next quarterback probably

for the New York Jets? Phil Sims with us in the Sims Spotlight each and every Wednesday at noon,

breaking down not only draft picks, potential at quarterback, but also free agent pickups and

trades with the jets, specifically here with Geno. All right. So, Phil, I'm the skeptic. I'm the

guy that looks and says, all right, I know the Raiders were bad, but they had, and we're talking

about with him 41 interceptions in his last three seasons. Why is it going to be that much different

for Geno Smith with the jets when the jets have been as much of a problem for as a place to play

as the Raiders have for years? It's not like one's he's he's not immediately going to so much better

of an organization. No, I understand that. Look, and I think it's right. You can have that opinion.

And you, you could be right. I'm looking at it a little different. I still see the talent as soon

as he got a chance to start out in Seattle. He became a real pro bowl quarterback. Now this

crap that goes on now where, you know, we have 17 quarterbacks that are going to the pro bowl and

this and that. Not a Shadour pro bowl, basically. Not a Shadour pro bowler, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah,

he got two votes and self and somebody else I heard. But, you know, I think you know, he's

going to be on a different team with a different attitude and he's going to have guys around him.

They're going to teach and, you know, that will be Chris. That'll be one of the big things.

If you go out there and you're, you know, just a little too aggressive with the football,

then, you know, they're going to sooner or later it's because you're going to lose the job a lot

quicker. I think he understands why he's coming in here. I've always been a big fan of his just

from the talent aspect and when he had some talent around him, he did well with the little kid.

When I watched the Las Vegas Raiders last year and him playing in some of his interceptions,

yes, they were bad because, well, I shouldn't, I don't know how to even say it. But he would move

and no matter where he moved to, he was going to take a big hit and he was trying to make those

throws while he was getting hit. And when you do that, you know, it's not going to go well.

So, so that's it. Again, I'm glad I thought he might, he might be the guy. I think he's going to

fit Frank right, very good on the offensive side. Bill must brave the next quarterback back there

as a QB coach, I think. So it's a good situation for him and a good way to show everybody he can still

get it done. Okay, so having made that trade, people always use the phrase bridge quarterback.

Does that, does that now in your mind make it more likely or less likely that the jets

with one of their higher picks? I'm not going to say number two, but let's say 16 or one of their

early second round picks would draft a quarterback this year or is it now what we're going to

punt on that as far as a higher pick and we'll wait till next year.

I think both those scenarios are could happen. In other words, you know, if you're looking for the

next quarterback and you're you're thinking of pick 16, then it would have to be Tyson Simpson.

You know, there's no ifans and buts about it. And look at the guy's town that he can really throw

the ball. He's six ones about two fourteen. So, you know, if that's small, then man,

we got a lot of quarterbacks in the NFL that might have to look out. But, you know, he's a really

good like I said, a really good throw. He has that strong arm and he's mobile. But I don't know

if he'll fit. I think they could pass that along and somebody else is drafting and then look at

one of these big quarterbacks, Drew Aller and Carson Beck, which is one of those two that I think

they'll both definitely be there in a second round, maybe even in the third round. So, they might

choose between those two and see if they caught something special that maybe we didn't judge

correctly and teaching them sometimes that brings them up to a different level too with the team

they're on. So, that'll be interesting to see. But I'll be surprised if it's not one of those

quarterbacks. Just so, you know, it's an interesting class. But most of it's going to be a lot of it's

going to be day three is when some most of a lot of these quarterbacks are going to get drafted.

Well, if you spend pick 16 on Ty Simpson, then I would think that he would get a couple of years

to be able to prove himself because he's the first round draft pick. It's Ty Simpson talent

good enough or do you push or do you kick the can down the road and you go for, okay, let's see

where we are next year and see if we can get one of these picks next year. In worst case scenario,

Mac Jones is a free agent. We can try to sign him to a short-term proven deal. Or as Ty Simpson

the guy if he's there, he's relatively close and he's still around at 16 that you say, you know what,

I'm good with this because that would be Aaron Glenn's guy and he will rise and fall based on that

pick. Yeah, that's right. There is a lot there. Would I be like, oh wow, he'd take him at

pick 16? That's it. I don't know. I do love what I see in play. I think I talked about this with

you guys. The beating he took, somebody should have got arrested for what they did. He took so

many beatings, especially late in the year and their team was just about one thing at Alabama.

It was about him. They couldn't do anything if he wasn't the quarterback. He doesn't have a lot

of starts in college, which a lot of people want, but the arm, the mobility, if there's no question,

it's very good NFL caliber stuff. So if the size bother you, then that's going to be the story

for him. Oh, it's a big enough. Well, he's every Betty. I know. I'll tell you this.

I'm going down to Alabama and I'm going to work my way up to East Coast and I'm going to go to his

pro day and watch it and just to, you know, because sometimes you just got to see it in person.

So I'm going to have a nice trip. I'm going to look at about three or four quarterbacks on the

way back home and I'll have a whole different opinion, I think, or not a whole different opinion.

But one, I really believe in once I've sized him up, seen and watched him throw.

And, you know, I don't really need to see him throw because I saw him tear up a lot of good

defenses in college football, but I can't wait for this to come about. I think it's March 25th.

So we'll see a little bit after that. Phil Sims is with us every Wednesday,

12 noon in the same spotlight, taking a look at the quarterbacks and the draft and

for the jets and giants, but specifically for the jets. What do you make of the

that theory now that you have to have X number of starts in college to really get, to really be

worth drafting hive. Where's somebody like Simpson, Phil? Well, I think it comes to this, guys.

You know, we, you get to see more of them and there's nothing like it, of course, just having game

experience. You know, that's why sometimes you see better in quarterbacks. They have two careers,

you know, the first one, then they wear that team out. They go to another one and all that

experience, man, they're able to use it and they play really well. So I think that would be

a concern about Ty Simpson that limited starts did fall off at the end of the year, but again,

I, you know, just don't jump on phrases. Flash a little bit of it. And man, I'll tell you what,

I would watch some games. I'd be sitting there going, oh, oh, like I, they were hitting me

because, and he saw him against Indiana and the playoff game out in the Rose Bowl.

No, that was waterline criminal. The hits he was taking in that game. So yeah, it's a good thing

or it's, it's a big issue, I think, too. So there's a lot there. And I think it'll just

see does the mobility, the arm and all that other stuff we've talked about. Is that enough to

overcome some of the other things we think about? I got two for you, Phil. One,

did you, did you sign off on, you know, maybe your number being used this year? And two,

Daniel Jones, $44 million a year for two years, possibly, they have a hundred million dollars

that John, well done, or is this a slip result for Indianapolis?

Well, I don't know if Indianapolis. First off, let me do the jersey thing. I said, I was going to

use my number because I just, I'm not worried about it. Oh, all this stuff is retired, no.

But then my daughter, in my daughter-in-law, oh my gosh, I mean, I took some beating over that.

I thought, all right, hell, call him a tell me, I can't do it. You know, even my sons were kind

of behind it. Like, well, yeah, that'd be cool. These weren't it. But so that's one thing. What

was the second part? Oh, it was about, I'm Daniel Jones getting $44 million per bet on his self,

could be up to 50. Yeah, well, you know, with the injuries that he's had, he's had the killings

and not the ACL. Is that a smart move by Indianapolis or, you know, is it risky? Oh, it's risky.

There's no doubt about that. You know, it's boomer in size and the great boomer in size and

always would tell me, yeah, Norman, there you go. That's even better. But he would send me a note

while we were at CBS sitting there some days and then, but always be, can you, he would write four

years, 130, or whatever, all for the career he's made 280 million. And I go, boomer, I don't care,

I don't care. And then one day he sent one over to me, I looked at him, I said, you know what,

it bothers me now. It's just a, it's really incredible how it's moved so fast here of late and

he just keeps going up. But yeah, I think the Indianapolis Colts, this is Jittera manager coaches,

a lot of people, their jobs are on the line. So the safest thing they could do was go with Daniel

Jones. And, you know, I'm never going to get on people go, oh, he doesn't deserve the money.

Man, and football, whatever position you play, I don't care. Whatever money you get, good luck.

Good, I mean, good for you because Bart, Chris, you both know it can end anytime. And it's tough to

hang in there, especially in today's world where they got the salary cap. That's all we hear.

So good for Daniel Jones. I hope he's healthy. When the season starts, he's ready to go. He can

be, I don't know if that can happen. But I root for him. So just like I root for Geno Smith,

once they leave this area, I still root for him. Phil, we'll talk next week, excellent stuff. And,

you know, next week we'll take, not just a look at some of the draft guys, but, you know,

maybe how these teams have been constructed around Jackson Dart and around Geno to be successful

next year. Yeah, you know, Chris, like one thing hit me, you're just talking too much.

You got it. I know, I know it's a problem. I don't know if you know this. Bart is very reserved

in the way he handles things. He doesn't like to talk a whole lot. He's, he's, he's always been a,

you know, let me be in the background kind of part of the wallpaper kind of guy.

Yeah, let's make this real quick. I know I got you, man. So I feel bad. I got to let get you

in there more. But real quick, Bart, do you love the jets? What they did on the defensive side or

not? I do because they're saying we listen, you can beat us, but you're not going to push us around.

It's nothing more than moralizing to have the team just run the ball five to four to five yards

a clip. And he's nothing you can do about it. So now you got some big fatties. You got some

guys that have a, a reputation of setting the edge. And, and one thing about the Mario, he's

not going to get punk and, and out physical coming up the middle of the gut. He's going to meet

force with force. And that was something I think that Sherwood and Quincy didn't do well because

they were like, you know, Quincy's only like five, 10, 220 and Sherwood's a converted safety

walking around at 220. You know, you talk about now, I think it's the return of the power run game

and what's old is new and what's new is old and guys running the ball downhill. You got full

backs and you play and you live in 12 personnel more than anything. So you got to be a three four

guy or a guy that got some big fatties in the middle. And what I, what I love is we got weight.

We got poundage. And when they step off the off the, off the bus, you got to respect the way

they look coming off the bus. I don't know if they could play dead in the country, Western,

but we'll find that out later. Hey, okay, that was a great analogy. Chris, good luck, man. I

have a good day. And thanks for having me, guys. You had part sales. I've got Bart, Phil.

Sims card. Okay. There you go. Appreciate it. Phil Sims. As we said, each and every Wednesday,

we will break down quarterbacks of the draft. We will talk about where the jets and giants are

positioned to be successful in the coming year. Great stuff from Phil. And I'm very curious. It

feels very high on on Geno. I'll give him credit. I know, maybe I'm alone on this one. I just,

I don't see it as much as everybody else does. I don't see why I should trust him to be successful

here. I think you're going to get better quarterback played and you got from Aaron Rogers. You're

going to get better quarterback played and you got from Justin Phil's. And I think you're going to

have a more solid team all around team. I think it'd be well rounded. I think it'd be balanced.

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Am I the nozzle? There are two sides to every story. Everybody need to keep a cool booty, okay?

We are here to judge. I pay the bill. Am I right? Adore? Am I the nozzle?

No, no, no, no. We're going to get back to some of your comments from the ESPN, New York YouTube

channel. Go there, subscribe and comment in the chat. Right now, though, we turn things over to

Tom Bauer who will present scenarios to us. We often find ourselves in where we're kind of

looking around and saying, is it me? Am I the nozzle in this situation? Or is it somebody else?

Tom, for sure. Well, gentlemen, all of Atlanta is devastated. We talked about Magic City Monday

last week in this edition of Am I the nozzle and now Magic City Monday canceled. The NBA

rained down on the Atlanta Hawks plans and the statement they said when we became aware of the

Hawks schedule promotion, we reach out to the team leadership to better understand their plans

and rationale while we appreciate the team's perspective and their desire to move forward. We

have heard significant concerns from a broader array of league stakeholders, including fans,

partners and employees, maybe even Michael K. I believe canceling this promotion is the right

decision for the broader NBA community. Nozzle, yeah, you're na for the cancel. I think it's nozzle.

I mean, come on. What's the big deal? They were not having strippers at the game. It was not one

of those cases where if the opposing team misses two free throws, everybody gets a lap dance for free.

That's not what it was. So everybody just calm down. Atlanta's a different city, man. Let them do

there. It's Wakanda and strip clubs is what they're known for makes them unique and it's just honor

in the club, right? Rather than we make fun of lemon pepper, Lou and all that type of stuff,

it's a great place to go to and hang out and it's not like what you think. I know people won't

talk about exploitation, all that stuff. Hey, man, nobody had a problem going to see a burlesque

relax. Like put taking yourself so seriously of something that was fun. That was unique to them.

Unique only to Miami probably. So I think you know, started off with old boy from the Spurs.

I broke you and damn. You damn it. I'm not even playing in that. You damn it in Mexico. We don't

want to hear nothing about what you talk about what's going on over here on the East Coast, baby.

So I guess to really add it all up, Michael case the nozzle in this. Is that accurate because he's

the one who went out. He made this happen. Let's call what it was. He absolutely destroyed it.

And what do you know the next day? Bad guy. Bad guy. Bad guy. Bad guy.

Hey, you're the nozzle. Next got an Adam Silver's year. That's a shame. All right. So

this happened at the WBC. Chris, you outlined all the tie breaking scenarios of how team USA

could be eliminated, even though there are three and one. There are three and no entering last

night's game with Italy and apparently because they were three and no, they automatically assumed

that they were onto the next round. When in fact, no, no, no, that is not the case. Mark Derosa,

the manager of team USA. Yeah, I misspoke. I was on hot stove with a couple of buddies today

and completing this red Miss red decalculations. We knew that Mexico is going to play Italy and then

running all the numbers with if we lost tonight with the runs allowed and runs scored and outs.

So I just misspoke. He did not understand that there would be the the runs allowed a tiebreaker

in this situation. Nozzle, yay or nay. Well, here's the problem. This is somebody that wants to be

a manager in the big leagues. This does not help his case. You have to know what the situation is.

You have to be locked in on that. Now, is it 100% his fault? No, because he's supposed to have

people there who are assigned to knowing exactly what the scenarios are. And my guess is whoever

that was probably dropped the ball there too. But here's the thing. You might want to speak to them

before you open your damn mouth. How about that one, too? Yes. Yes. I would say the DRO unfortunately,

in this case, would be the nozzle. And now he finds himself in a bit of a squeeze box because of

Italy loses tonight in Mexico scores. It's not beat them by five runs. It's it Mexico scores at least

five runs. Correct, Tom? As correct. Yeah. And Mexico scores at least five runs and they win.

Well, then the US is out. And that's going to tell what that's also going to do. That is going to

kill a lot of interest in the WBC. So what US is trying to say is Spanish strikes on or

striking strike strikes on. I need to know which way to bet. Because if his money involved for

America, we know that certain things are going to happen. I would let's say that Italy gets a little

bigger strike zone. Yeah. Okay. That's what I need to know. I would say that DRO unfortunately,

here is the nozzle. Tom, do you agree? Disagree? We never get your opinion. Oh,

absolutely. I 100% like you said, if you want to be a manager in the big leagues,

if there are no rules, I understand people make mistakes from now and then he was warming up

Clayton Kershaw in the eighth inning thinking he was just going to get him out there for the competition.

And then he may have gotten the notice at that point. He may have realized, oh snap,

we might lose and be eliminated. Let me warm up my closer so that way we don't make a complete

ask of ourselves. Did you see Kershaw squaring off against McAfee last week? McAfee actually

went up and was donating money to charity, depending on the outcome of the at bat,

but McAfee was trying to even make contact and it was a problem. Was he even close to making

contact? He was. He did make contact a couple of times, but like I don't know what Kershaw was

throwing and what level he was throwing. He did throw on a curveball that just he basically crumpled

at the point. But it was it. Listen, I'll give McAfee credit. He did. I think he hit a ground ball

to third at one point, just like a little weak ground ball. At that point, do you even try and

take a swing and you just try and lay it out there like a damn air swing, but I think that's

almost what he was doing. That's almost what he was doing. Next. All right, another WBC one for

you. And I believe this was also mentioned on the show. They're little supposed beef

between Randi Arosa Reina and Kyle. Oh, I like this. I want to get your take on this.

Yes, this is exactly what I want. This is a barred Scott question more so specifically because

former athlete. So Randi Arosa Reina trying to be the nice guy in his at bat ceases

Mariners. He make how rally behind the plate tries to give him a handshake before

his he for he steps into the box for the first time. Kyle Rally refused to give him a handshake,

pretty much refusing to acknowledge him. Randi Arosa Reina pretty much after the game said,

go to hell. Kyle Rally. Wow. Much more explicit way. And Kyle Rally is now trying to play it off

and like, you know what guys? There's no beef. Don't worry about it at all. Bart, would you have beef

with your teammate? If he is the competitor in this case, would you have beef with him if he

wouldn't even tap you up? I mean, it's difficult because Miles was former teammates, but I mean,

teammates getting to fights all the time. Don't don't don't don't you know, don't practice stuff

like that. But I have no beef with that. You locked in. You're trying to protect and represent your

country right now. You know, you see this a lot of times as well and world basketball classics,

right? Or the Olympics. You got guys going against, you know, the French or somebody like that going

against guys, they're going to they're going to play hard. You know what I mean? Because at the end of

the day, you're there for a certain purpose at that time. So no, I got I think I got a problem with

that. They'll be totally fine when they get back. Listen, uh, uh, Rosalina stuck his hand out to

shake his hand. Then Raleigh said something to him. And then he stuck his fist out to get a fist bump

and didn't get either. So it was I'm not going to call Raleigh the nozzle here. But I can understand

her Rosalina being a little bit out of shape about it. Hey, dude, come on. We're on the same team

during the season. And this is, you know, nice little exhibition that we've created. I don't know,

although I will say a lot of these players seem to have gotten a lot more out of this because of

the energy that is in the building for these games. Yeah, you got your whole country looking at you,

man. You've got guys on from other countries, not necessarily the US, they're more stagnant on this

from other countries saying that this is more important to them than the world series.

No, those guys are dead yet. No, stop. I want that guy off my team immediately. I'm going to pay

you how much and you're telling me that the WBC, a little tournament that lasts two weeks in the

middle of March, means more to you than winning a world series. Get out. Get out. Get out. That's

that criminal. Not the Olympics. That's that Carmelo Anthony stuff. Yeah. At the Carbello. The,

you know, us winning the gold medal. That's why I'm a champion. Stop it. You also lost it too, by

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I got the t-shirts. We got the t-shirts last two nights yesterday. Okay. And in this morning,

Jordan and Gabby did bring them into the studio and one is a picture of Rick. And it just says

the future and it's his ESPN picture, but with AI, what he's going to look like is he continues

to go bald. Ah. And the other was Dave looking exactly like Dave Kettleman. We cannot confirm nor

denied that he is bald. I mean, we don't know you cannot confirm it. I can't confirm it because you

will take his hat off. Is the glue to his head as a part of what that's one hair piece. I

would be amazing. Like Andre Agnes playing with the bobbin pins.

Like somebody would have for Halloween a hat with a big mullet on the back.

Rick won't take his hat off. I think and I heard him this morning talking about it. He said that

his hair was not going to cooperate this morning when he got up. And it's because it's picture day

here. So he was going to get his picture taken with the hat on him. Like, it's a little,

a little skeptical in there. He's like, well, you know, Cassie was, it was early in the morning,

didn't want to wake everybody up. Are you living in a one bedroom out on the island with the entire

family? The last time I checked, I think I'm pretty sure that Rick's got a mansion out there.

You can find another room to go and get his hair checked out in. That's all I'm saying.

Just a little copper pet ties to the top to the scalp. I told you I knew a guy one time

back when that stuff was still in existence. I don't believe it's in existence anymore.

What am I not going to do? No, this was the spray can stuff that they used to advertise. That it's

spray hair spray hair. Yeah, like topping. Yeah, the spray hair stuff.

follicles. Yeah. And I knew a guy would use it and was living in such denial about the situation.

Yeah. Somebody ran into him at the gym. Yeah, saw him in the locker room. He went and got on

the scale in the locker room completely naked except for the hat. Living in that level of

deniability about the situation. But that's because he knows how much the hat weighs so he just

automatically subtract. Oh, exactly. It's like when you're buying, when you're when you go to the

supermarket and they automatically put in the weight of the little bag that they put your slices

of American cheese and Taylor and ham in. Plus, plus, plus he had already got that factored

into the weight. Plus he had all his clothes off. So he was a little chilly. You know what I'm saying?

No quickest way to lose your body temperature is through your feet and through your head. That's

what they tell you. He was in the old gym locker room. It was not in the middle of the Arctic.

He was wet and it was windy because it was hot outside in the AC was on.

That is unfortunate. That is unfortunate. It's Barton Karlin on ESPN New York and on the ESPN

New York YouTube page. Listen, we talked about it a little bit. I cannot take the BAM out of

bio 83 points thing seriously. Just, and God, please stop with that. How many shots to Kobe take

and what they plan a real opponent? Like, who would they plan and like was watching to last night?

Yeah, I'm saying who was Kobe playing? I don't remember. See, those are the things. I think Phoenix

maybe, but I'll double check because it because I would say like what David Robinson has 71

or something like that. No, it was against the Raptors in 06. Yeah, who was on the Raptors?

Yeah, the Raptors at the time were 14 and 27. Okay, so Kobe's adjusted. Sometimes we remember

things differently. I understand. So the mama didn't have to be the mama. He was just a garden

snake. Here's my thing. Okay. It's more justifiable. Kobe took 46 shots in that game. How many

did you see in BAM took with 43 and Kobe was 18 of 20 from the line. See, but you have to think

and when Will Chamberlain did 100, he was the only black person on the court.

And Kobe and Kobe had 73s, only 73s in that game. See, here's the problem. You know,

John says, hey, let's let the stallion run. That's true. Every once in a while, the stallion

tries to slip a fastball past me and hopes I'm going to swing. Right. And chase one in the dirt.

Right. Can we confirm or deny that when Will Chamberlain scored 100 points, he was on

including the, including the janitor. He was already black person in the entire building.

I'm going to deny that. I don't even know. I'm not, I'm not going to acknowledge him. Name

another white player. Like, there's this one. This one. Will Chamberlain was here. Here's my point.

It's only five of us in the league. It's one thing when it's Kobe and when it's willed.

When it's BAM out of bio. Hey, he's a champion. Any? Come on. No, he didn't win a championship.

He didn't win. No, he didn't win. They made it to the finals twice. Yeah, Jimmy Bucket. He didn't,

I don't think he was on the, uh, any of the, the teams with. Yeah, he wasn't a little break,

because he was. Yeah. But here's my point. When it's those two levels of players and those guys have

those kind of nights, I can understand it or excuse taking that many shots. Okay. All right.

When it's, you know, Kobe was on the floor that night just to give you an idea of who was around

Kobe when he had 81. Lamar Odom. Chris Mim. Kwame Brown. Oh, God. Smush parker. Smush.

Slava Medvedenko. Brian Cook. Luke Walton. Devon George. That's who the hell else is going to score?

I mean, outside of, I mean, who's out there with him? Norman Powell.

Last night? Yeah. Norman Powell. I don't know who was playing with him last night. Yeah, I'm saying,

they probably took the day off. They're like, bam, you get to eat, man, because we ain't playing

today. We gonna take a day off. Here's my point. Bam went to the line 40 sometimes. Come on.

What are we doing? I mean, it's one thing when you have 31 in the first quarter, which you get.

But I can't get wrapped up when we're sending Bam out of bio to the free throw line that much.

Well, they call time out. Now, okay, what's the best? What's the best high scoring game you've ever seen,

then? Like you would probably say it was in the 50s when you could talk about going against the

party. I would say the best one I've ever seen live. What Jordan, Jordan, double nickel at the

garden, come at like seven, eight games back from the second time around, huh? But were they good?

The next and bolts. Yeah. Yeah. That was Jordan coming back from playing baseball.

And it was probably five or six games back when he had 55 at the garden. And he hit Bill

Wennington underneath for a layup on the game winner. What the hell was you when Bill went,

come on. I know. It was Charles Smith out there when he did that. I don't remember. I think you

probably was. So I guess you're talking about impactful. I think I had it. It has been confirmed

that Wilk Chamberlain was the only black person on the court. And he was,

right. You went through and made sure to confirm that. He's not confirmed. He was three. He was five

inches tall in everybody else else. He just stood it to three. He just stood it to three.

It was in all three seconds. On the New York Knicks Cleveland Buckner was on the next.

Cleveland Buckner. It was like, it was like water boy. We all got to go get one.

Well, I just, how can I put her to any more bluntly? I don't care that it's bad

out of bio. I really don't. But you know, at some point, bam out of bio is going to be somebody

like, oh, bam, what's that do? You know, I mean, oh, bam was underrated. And then it's going to be

you know, it was like David Robinson had the 71. You know, I mean, David Robinson was a much better

player than bam ever was. Well, don't listen, bam, hang around long enough. He'll make it to the

hall of fame. No, what is that saying? I'm just saying. That's like saying, Gino Smith was a

jet's best option in quarterback. No, see, that's the same damn thing. I put salt. Do we need salt in the

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