Hour Two- How deep is the NFL Draft & How unlikeable are the LA Dodgers

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No, they're not on a golf Jacksonville.

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Jumbo shrimp.

Okay, sorry to mean to make it plural.

Well, you were being normal.

There is that, yeah.

Championship celebration.

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Who are the Jacksonville jumbo shrimp?

I mean, if you know, Ryan, bring it.

I'd be super impressed, but no pressure.

There's no points for getting this wrong.

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They're baseball, correct?

Baseball.

Yeah.

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Yes, internationally, the bison line opened today.

And there's a team now in the league.

Maybe they were.

And this is embarrassing named Jacksonville jumbo shrimp.

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Yes, they existed last year.

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And that's why we never did.

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All right, sorry, Ryan.

Thanks for your patience.

Ryan Fowler with us draft analyst.

We are within a month now.

Let's get the macro from you so far.

This season, Ryan, like how this draft feels to you.

What you kind of expect from it.

Yeah, first off, fellas.

It's going to be back.

Look, everybody is doing well.

Look, this draft for a lot of folks out there.

I think, you know, are a little bit down on this class.

As far as the blue chip talent really runs out quickly at the top.

And I'm right there with them.

However, I always try to do my due diligence in each draft, guys.

And really dive into the weeds really when you get past day two,

fourth, fifth round bucket, where it's really where I think in this draft,

you're going to find a lot of players that can really contribute

on offense and on defense.

And I now, there's a lot of positional groups, I think, linebacker.

I think receiver.

I think edge specifically really pop off the page tight end as well.

27 of them were invited to the combine.

You're going to find a lot of players in those classes.

And if you're a GM in football that really does your due diligence

and trust your collegiate scouting staff,

that was out on the road for the entirety of the fall.

And even scouting this class really for the past two, three years.

You're going to find some contributing players

in those middle to late round in this class.

I actually really do like this class,

even though some others may not.

Well, I like to hear that especially about linebacker,

because like that feels like a position,

especially like, you know, interior linebackers,

like not guys that are like pass rush specialists as well.

I mean, those are classified as that, anyway.

But I feel like linebacker is sort of the defensive version

of the running back.

Although that's changed over the last few years.

More teams are running it more.

And you've seen more running backs drafted earlier

than probably the previous five or eight, 10 years.

I feel like linebackers that like,

I think I should be able to find a linebacker inside linebacker

that can play for me on Saturday without much trouble.

You know, most years, but it sounds like this year especially.

Yeah, it's a heck of a group it really is.

And you made a good point.

You know, when you move closer to the middle of the football field,

you know, communication leadership,

guys that not just, you know, say it,

but also show it with their paths and pop.

And when you look at the bills right now,

as far as guys that they're going to look to have

and know this new look gym letter defense,

whether it's an A typical three floor,

they're going to look some, some hybrid looks,

and a couple bare fronts with five down linemen.

Don't really know really until we really get the training camp

and you see them in week one.

But you mentioned as far as Saturday,

that early fourth round bucket.

I think a couple guys come to mind.

Keishon Elliott from Arizona State,

extremely, extremely physical typical ball

player that sets the tone in the middle.

And then a guy that, but all the attention right now,

Alabama is on Deontay Lawson,

as far as how long he played in the SEC.

But I think his teammates in Justin Jefferson

is going to be the guy that plays quicker than him

as far as get snaps quicker in the NFL

and also better than him long term.

So Justin Jefferson again,

and Keishon Elliott to do those early day three guys

really like their skills at the first versatile players.

And if you're drafted early portions of day three

at the linebacker position,

you may also have to cut your teeth on special teams as well.

So both of those guys that think we'll be able to do that

are absolutely names to know in this middle of us,

potentially adding those bills defense.

With Ryan Fowler, Ryan, you lay out

and I've heard the same from other analysts as well,

the positions where the draft is the strongest.

They're right in line with what the bills needs appear to be.

I don't know about interior defensive line,

but linebacker edge wide receiver.

I guess the bills are fortunate to be in a draft

where what they need is where it's kind of rich.

Yeah, they are.

You know, they are.

And again, it's going to be all seven rounds.

You're going to be able to find guys.

I think you look at receiver.

You know, you're going to have what's really

branding being flavor?

Is it going to be an Omar Cooper Jr?

Is it going to be a Casey conception on both those guys

at three level threats?

Casey's got a little more juice in his game

as far as after the catch than what I've seen in Omar's tape

or do they want a bigger physical player

to what they thought they were going to have

with a guy like Keon Coleman.

You know, I think he's a still talented kid,

but right now it has not worked out.

It hasn't come to fruition.

You know, are they going to value a guy?

Potentially they take a swing on a guy like Nalekai Fields,

laid on day one.

Is it Chris Brazl, Denzel Boston from Washington

or do you move in the middle round?

Is it Kobe Lane from USC?

Bryce Lance from North Dakota State.

This receiver group.

They're short guys.

There's tall guys.

There's guys that create after the catch.

A lot of unique skill sets at this position.

And then you mentioned corner.

No, look, there's a really good separation

as far as day two, day three, as far as what the nickel class

looks like.

Headliner really is the Angela Ponds from Indiana,

one of the pound for pound best players in this class.

I wish the kid was 20 pounds heavier and an inch taller.

I think he goes back into night one,

but we don't have that luxury.

He's an outstanding football player.

The audience says Scott from Miami

or do you want a bigger physical player?

There are only three guys at the combine

that measured in six, three or taller.

Devon Moore from Florida and the two Washington guys,

Ticario Davis and Ephesians Priceock,

one of the best names in this class, guys.

Both those guys all vertically impressive players.

So it's really going to depend on what the flavor is

of each offensive coordinator,

offensive coordinator,

how they evaluate their board.

But really, in those positions of need for Buffalo,

there can be a lot of players to add on all seven rounds.

Ryan, let's jump back to receiver for a second here.

Nothing I'd assume we're all following the same people

on social media,

but probably some of them,

because it's draft content.

And so today feels like Ted Hurst Day on my Twitter feed.

Like I just,

there's a numerous draft analyst posting videos

and retweeting videos of Ted Hurst from Georgia State.

64206,

where is this player falling

and how interesting a prospect is to you?

Yeah, it would be really nice

if the bill had a second round pick

because that's where I think Ted Hurst is going to go.

I really do.

Too soon, Ryan.

Talking to some of his rest guys over the past

really a couple of months.

Ted had a ton of offers to leave Georgia State

for a lot of money.

And he stayed there.

And it looked, they did not have a good year

of disgusting down there,

really what it was for the Panthers this year.

But here's the bill, like you said, 64205.

He's a three level threat.

I think he's outstanding.

And again, I think he's someone

for if you're looking to cross this draft board,

where's who's one or two guys

or maybe going to go much higher

than maybe the consensus.

If you're looking to cross different sites

of their big boards.

And most of them had Ted Hurst in that 90 to 120 range.

I don't think at all he gets to 90.

I'd be surprised he gets past 65 and 70.

This is a very physically impressive player.

And on tape against lower level competition,

he showcased well.

Then he goes to the senior bowl,

where he really showcased well

with one-on-one scenarios.

And then also in team drills,

where you're asking the block and the perimeter

as a big player.

Take designated touches.

He's a guy that's really taken advantage

of this pre-job process.

He looks the part.

He plays the part.

I think he's going to be a really nice player

for wherever he lands, likely for me at least,

in the second round,

where I think he's going to come off the board.

With Ryan Fowler, Mike Schopen,

the Bulldog here on WGR.

I mean, I'm sort of chirping when you say,

I wish they had a second-round pick.

I wish they had a second-round pick.

I think this is the majority opinion, actually.

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Problem I have with the trade for DJ Moors

that it just cost too much.

Not to mention the money he got.

But I don't have a DJ Moor problem.

I just think they could have been better off

doing this differently.

Do you agree?

I do agree.

I think you could have added DJ Moor on the straps.

Guys, I really do.

And I think it wouldn't have cost the money

that you paid DJ as well.

I mean, for me, DJ Moor has always

been a guy that hasn't lived up to expectation.

Whether that was in Chicago or whether

that was in Carolina before.

You know, a guy coming out of Maryland.

I thought it was a fine player.

And at his best, a wide receiver two in the NFL

and very average at that.

I think, again, in this class,

and the reason why I said the second round

is where this receiver group is so deep

and it really does start.

Once you get past lemon, tape, and Tyson,

and still, as of right now,

I'm not even sure where Jordan Tyson goes.

It still thinks it's the top 20 pick,

but not sure exactly where he goes

at the injury concerns, which are legitimate.

This receiver class is outstanding

and it's really going to go all seven rounds.

I don't think you need to add a guy

like DJ Moor in this situation

where he could have found one really

in a top 50 to 60 picks.

How about Casey Concepts, you know,

and I mentioned this, you know, phrasing

about how it feels like a Ted Hurst Day

on my Twitter feed.

I would say the same thing about Concepts,

you know, earlier this week or over the last weekend.

A lot of bills fan and a lot of bills analysts

and even just national analysts have been

highlighting Casey Concepts, you own.

And that's a player that might be viable

at 26 of the bills do decide

to go receiver despite having made the big investment

in assets and money in DJ Moor.

How do you feel about the Texas A&M Whiteout?

Yeah, I'll say this in that, you know,

I think I do like Khalil Shakir.

I really do in the slot.

I think he's a dynamic player

that can really expand your ground

and game as well for his ability,

designated touches.

But when you look at Casey Concepts,

you know, I don't think you potentially,

if you really like him, don't go and get your got.

You know, I'm always in support of that.

I don't think you don't add a Concepts,

you own because you made a move for DJ Moor.

Because I think what Casey's able to do

right away is win in those shallow to intermediate areas.

And he's going to expand your ground game

as well as far as he can create

undesignated touches,

take pressure off of Josh Howell

and not to do everything on every single play,

which he's been asked to do now for a long, long time

as you guys understand what both his arm and his leg.

So one thing is Casey's game, he's a guy also

that can take it to distance on special teams as well

as the partner Turner potentially

want to throw him back there as well.

He is absolutely dynamic after the catch.

Really for me, the best after the catch in this class

right alongside a healthy Chris Bell

from Louisville at 215 pounds.

It's not lemon, it's not taste, not Tyson.

So Casey's a guy that does not lose foot races.

When the ball is in his hands,

believe it or routes,

and the concept, if you will, really does start.

He's an explosive type of playmaker

that I do expect to go back end of night one.

If he ends up in a bill's uniform,

I fully expect him right now to potentially lead this team

in targets, receptions and touchdowns in year one.

What about Tyson?

That's big.

Yeah, you mentioned you think he still goes

on the top 20.

What's your latest?

If you could expound on that,

your latest thought on how the league sees him.

Yeah, I mean, I flew an athlete as you're going to find guys

in this class.

And this is smoke screen season.

I'll say that.

It always matters who your information

who you're getting it from

because some people talk to different forces

and some people talking to the same people.

It's just always important now this time year,

less than a month out of really

where you're getting that information from.

And there are legitimate concerns

for Jordan, as far as the ACL, MCL, PCL,

the collarbone, the hammies.

That's a little bit concerned if you're taking a risk

of a guy of attention in the top 15 picks

to come in and be your boundary ex-receiver.

Again, I think at his best,

I think he's absolutely a guy that can be a wide receiver

one at the NFL level.

I think he's a guy that had no injuries.

I mean, that's something that's

I don't like playing hypotheticals.

He's absolutely a top 10 lock for me

and someone that can really be a wide receiver one

in the top potential 10 to 12 receive him football.

But we don't have that luxury right now with his profile.

So again, I think that 10 to 20 range

is where he comes off the board.

Is there a team in the late 20s?

Maybe they want to make a move up?

We will see what happens.

But that's really where I think he's going to go

because the injury concerns are legitimate

concern for teams.

You tripped another wire for me mentioning Chris Bell

because that's a very interesting player to me.

I mean, there's the injury late November,

so then ACL, so you've got that to work with.

And then I get the impression, again,

pouring over like different analysts

and whatnot in the last few weeks or so

that there's a talent looking at film with him

that maybe wasn't utilized to the best extent by Louisville.

I don't know if you agree with that

and could kind of expound upon Bell

because there's a sentiment out there

that feels like he's really electric

but just hasn't really had the chance to show it yet

and then you've got the injury piece as well.

Yeah, that's a great question.

And I think it reminds me a couple of years ago

not exact parallels

but at the tight end position

when you watch Sam LaPorta at Iowa

and you projected him to an offense

that really expands vertically

and from an aerial perspective

and you say, man, this kid's really good player

and obviously what he turned into

and that Detroit offensive last few years.

Now with Chris Bell

that Miller-Malsch run offense,

I'm right there with other people as far

as what they've said as far as hey,

the guy that's really worn on dig routes

and crossers and designated touches.

If he gets into an NFL scheme

to where he can be a wide receiver too,

the attention is on somebody else.

I think he's someone that can be a three-level threat.

Physically, he's one of the most imposing receivers

in this class and I mentioned him

right alongside Concepcion

as far as his ability to create after the catch

and that's personally what I would love

and a receiver.

I don't want you catching the ball

and falling forward four yards.

There's a concern with Stalfey

who wants that sometimes injured

and Tyson's tape going over the middle of the field

following instead of trying to get those extra yards

always falling forward.

So Chris Bell, it's unfortunate the ACL happens.

In November, everything I've heard

he's going to be good to go

as you work into the summer months

and into the regular seasons,

barring any setback of course things can change.

But as a physically imposing type of football player

that I do think also goes in the second round.

But again, my point earlier,

if Brandon Bean loves Chris Bell,

they believe in his skill set

as a physically imposing kid

and they're in the back end of round one

where you trust your board

or you trust your scouting staff.

I think this is absolutely a player that can come in

and be a wide receiver one for you for the long haul.

Few minutes left with Ryan Fowler.

How about Jeremiah Love, Ryan?

Where do you see him landing?

What's your guess?

He's an outstanding football player, guys.

You know, if you were to ask me three players in this class

I think that it'd be pro-bullars in year one.

Jeremiah Love, Caleb Downs

and then Vanguia Wane,

the interior offensive alignment from Penn State

at non-premium position.

It's a very unique year.

But Jeremiah Love, I think,

is in that Bijan Robinson

to mere Gibbs category for me.

I think he's someone that can be an electric inside

and outside the tackles

whether you want to run power

whether you want to run outside zone.

I mean, look at some of his tape on the outside.

He's running big routes.

He's running posts.

He's running nine routes over corners.

He's just a really outstanding football player

that's going to expand your offensive playbook.

And he is the one B to mine on my board,

one A, which is Caleb Downs,

the top two players overall in my class.

I think he's a sensational football player.

He's a sensational young man as well

that just wants to live and breathe football

and wherever he lands.

Whether that's at Tennessee,

to the Giants or to potentially Washington at seven,

I think he's going to expand their offensive

immediately and become really one of the most dynamic

ball carriers and offensive weapons in the NFL in due time.

Are we one and done with running backs

in around one this year?

Do you think there's another one that could sneak in?

I think if there's one that sneaks in,

it's Jadarian price,

keep an eye on him to see how we'll see Hawks

in the back end of day one at 32.

And lastly, Ryan, what about quarterbacks here?

Everybody's got Mendoza at 101.

There's some Ty Simpson buzz.

How many of these guys are interesting to you?

I like Mendoza.

I don't love him.

I have a mid to late first round on Fernando.

Ty Simpson, I have a two on,

the second round quarterback really doesn't exist

in today's day and age

because player development and coaching,

it really goes from organization and organization

in the 2026 and the microwave society.

It just doesn't really exist.

But again, Mendoza and Simpson are one, too.

I would have really liked to see him turn that jambless

declare if that worked out that way.

He would have been QB2 for me in this class behind Mendoza.

But really behind those guys,

I think there's some interesting names.

I mean, Cade Clubnik from Clemson, Carson Beck from Georgia,

or excuse me for Miami,

we've been talking about him for seems like a decade now.

Garrett Nussmeyer from LSU,

Duru Aller from Penn State.

I still like the skill set on him.

I just, the mobility does scare me,

but the arm talent is evidently there.

Two guys, though, at the quarterback position

that are very interesting in this class,

one, even they potentially be QB3 in this class,

I'm not sure if Cole Payton from North Dakota State

gets out of day two.

A lot of NFL teams like his skill set

as a big physical player that they can really work with,

and then Taylan Green from Arkansas.

Long way to go is the quarterback,

but you can't find six, five, six with six guys

that run four, three that could potentially come in

and even be a wide receiver in the future.

I don't know if it's going to be quarterback,

but someone is going to take a chance on both those guys,

really date two, and that third round type of bucket.

And again, keep an eye on Cole Payton.

I think he goes much higher than a lot of people think

as of right now.

I know Mike said last thing,

but he didn't consult me before he set it.

So I want to squeeze in, edge real quick, Ryan.

That is certainly a position of need for the bills.

How likely is it that they could get an impactful player

at the edge position at 26?

I think it's highly impactful.

Now, do you want your atypical three, four end

or are you going to get a guy

that really just gets that for the passer?

Because I think you could have a shot of the cash

as howl even though obviously the arm length is huge.

However, you know, we watch this tape in the SEC

facing future NFL tackles as the building

to win a variety of ways is excellent.

Now, do you want a Derek Moore from Michigan, Zion Young

from Missouri, more power bound,

power laden Jared verse types of players?

But I think one name to know that Nathan Sneak

in the back, back end of day one guys

is our Mason Thomas from Oklahoma.

62, 245 pounds, extremely explosive.

Can play on all three downs.

Extremely versatile and mature,

pass fresh repertoire as well.

So back end of day one, I think there are a lot of guys

to know in this edge class.

It's just going to really vary what Brandon

being wants in its specific, specific type of body type.

I'm mostly looking for a guy to get around the edge

and set an offensive tackle on fire.

So that's it.

That's all I, that's so good.

I think howl sounds pretty, pretty tasty to me.

I grabbed like as just howl as well.

You know, someone that again, SEC experienced

a little bit under size.

But again, we're talking about the arm length stuff.

I think the arm length will show up in the ground game

more so than getting after the passer

and his variety and what he can show.

We show with me a lot of what I've seen on tape

as Nick Benito, really in that spinner role.

I'm not comparing the two players.

Nick is longer than Cassius.

But in that type of role where you're going to pin

your ears back and get out for the quarterback,

teams want to drop back 35 plus times.

You're facing Lamar Jackson.

You're facing touch from home showboro.

The long list of names, the ASC, I know you guys know.

You got to get a guy and get out for the quarterback.

And I think Cassius Howell, if he was there

and the bills won him, I think it's actually a very nice fit.

Thank you, Ryan.

Where can we find more of your work?

Absolutely.

You can find me at NBC Sports Philadelphia.

Very good.

Appreciate your time.

We'll talk again down the road.

Absolutely. Thanks as always, guys.

Ryan Fowler, NBC Sports, Philadelphia.

I regret to inform you that the defending

international league champions

are the Jacksonville jumbo shrimp.

And I believe triple A champions as well.

Having beaten Las Vegas in the series

that follows the international league championship series

in which last year they beat Scranton Wilkesbury.

That one, that might have heard of rolls off the tongue.

We know that one.

That's the rail riders, I believe.

It is the rail riders.

So did they play the bison?

I don't know.

I think I'd like to think I would have noticed.

Yeah, I think so too.

I've never heard it before.

But they've been in for a few years.

Okay.

Well, and they are the defending champs

and they're celebrating that achievement tonight

against the Rochester Red Wings in Jacksonville.

Be funny if they celebrated in Rochester.

That would be odd.

Yes, I agree.

All right.

Well, I mean hats off to the Jacksonville jumbo shrimp.

That's right.

Congratulations.

I feel bad for not knowing you exist,

not only existed, but are the champions

of a league in which we have a team.

Luckily, I feel a lot of shame.

They are the only team in the league.

20 teams.

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They're the only team I had no knowledge of.

The rest of them, with enough time,

I could have named them all.

Now, do I sound defensive?

I could have named the rest of the international league.

I do believe.

I did not know about the jumbo shrimp.

Yeah, I'm merely basing this lack of knowledge, I guess,

about the Jacksonville jumbo shrimp.

I'm sitting in here five days a week during baseball season

and hearing in the update who the bison's are playing tonight,

either at home or on the road,

and I just don't feel like I ever one time heard Zach Jones say

the words in order, Jacksonville jumbo shrimp.

I don't know.

I read the game release every day, so.

Right.

I look today to see what the bison's

were when leading after eight.

Right, zero and zero.

They hadn't played a game yet.

You posted on that.

Oh, that was a bit from last year.

Yep.

All right.

Well, you learn something every day.

Even if you can't even if it's years old,

even if it's just about the Jacksonville jumbo shrimp.

Wide receiver names.

Jordan Tyson, maybe a faller in the first round injury stuff.

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If you're looking across different sites of their big boards,

then most of them have had heard from that 90 to 120 range.

I don't think at all he gets to 90.

I'd be surprised he gets past 65 and 70.

This is a very physically impressive player.

And on tape against lower level competition,

he showcased well, then he goes to the senior bowl

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with one on one scenarios.

And then also in team drills,

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as a big player, take designated touches.

He's a guy that's really taken advantage

of this pre-job process.

He looks support, he plays the part.

I think he's going to be a really nice player

for wherever he lands, likely for me at least,

in the second round where I think he's going to come off the board.

Draft analyst Ryan Fowler on Ted Hurst.

Doesn't have the good name.

Malachi Hurst, Denzel Hurst,

of the good name Smith Hurst,

of the good name doesn't have the good school.

Georgia State, what?

Georgia State.

There's got to be a nickname somewhere hiding

in his world, his life for you.

Move off from Ted.

No offense to Ted.

All the video I've seen of him,

it's really one video that I just keep seeing,

you know, a half a dozen different analysts commenting on.

I haven't seen anything about a nickname,

so I can't help you there.

I don't know.

It's too late.

Oh, okay.

Now, I mean, after he gets drafted maybe,

but now he would just be confusing.

Is there someone else named?

Is there another Hurst?

I see.

He can't change it now, I think.

Yankees and Giants getting started,

beautiful overhead shots of the Giants stadium

with the Bay and all of it.

San Francisco, awesome place.

The Dodgers, I watched the Dodgers last night.

Peacock, you found your way.

Okay, I did Dodgers diamond backs.

Dodgers had the gold outline of their letters and numbers

because they won the World Series

and their gold brim on their hats.

I guess I liked it.

It's just for opening.

I don't know, probably.

Yeah, I would think they're not,

they haven't changed their uniform.

Go, but I remember when the Royals won.

That's 2015, I think.

So that long ago,

the next year they had gold element on their uniforms.

Maybe again, only for opening day.

Okay, yeah.

But I was wondering,

and I know you're not the biggest baseball fan anymore.

Neither am I, really, but the Dodgers are one of those teams now.

They've won the last two years.

They spend way more than everybody else.

They kind of toy with baseball.

They don't have to win championships.

It's not like that's automatic.

Last year we saw how hard they got pushed

and how close they were to losing.

But the regular season is mostly a formality

for the Dodgers now,

but I think I might still like them.

I've not to the point yet where I hate the Dodgers.

Like the Chiefs,

and this is a little bit being from here.

But the Chiefs won a couple

and it sort of seemed like everybody started to hate the Chiefs.

Sick of them, I don't know what they really did

that was so annoying.

I mean, a couple of their personalities

can be annoying, but there's a lot of guys on these teams.

Yeah.

And they get worse too than my homes and Kelsey.

I agree.

So the Chiefs though became like,

you know, we would talk to people on this show from anywhere

and that would you that would come across.

Like we're just all sick of anybody.

Anybody with them kind of mentality.

Yeah.

Yes.

And I don't feel that way about the Dodgers either.

At all.

I don't know.

I it might be the casual nature of my fandom

at this point talking.

But I think of the Dodgers and I just appreciate

that they still play in that ballpark

and they look like the Dodgers.

I even made mention I know one time last year

they were like some highlighted game

on some like Friday night on Apple or something.

Maybe it was a standalone game

on not a common carrier.

If that makes sense,

we talk now about sports.

It's a carrier, right?

And they were they were wearing some

that's just not the Dodger uniform playing the Yankees.

I remember saying there should be a rule

that if you're the Dodgers and you're playing the Yankees

and it's like the it's the part if Fox baseball night

in America or whatever it would have been,

which is not like a new standalone carrier.

Anyway, you should wear your regular stuff.

You know, just I'm I'm in part here

because it's the Dodgers and the Yankees.

And I wanted to look like the Dodgers and the Yankees

because you know, I'm it was born in 1965.

And so that but I generally I like everything about them

because it just reminds me of, you know, being a kid still.

Well, there might be a baseball difference there.

You know, specific to baseball.

I think it's their players and even their manager

that just give off a friendlier.

Yeah.

Vibe maybe.

I mean, certainly Otani.

It's not I don't think it's easy if it's even possible

to dislike Otani.

How do you dislike Otani?

We never seen anything like him.

I don't know.

And there's nothing really about him

that is annoying.

I mean, he's not that he's not the most demonstrated.

He's not, you know, he's very likable.

Unless you think like the gambling scandal was a sham

or something, I guess you could you could hang onto that

if you, you know, might be the only thing.

Yeah, I think it I think in my opinion it is.

I think that's is super likable.

I love mooky bets.

I think Freeman is.

You know, the the pitcher Yamamoto

last year became a star.

What do you even know about him?

Kershaw wasn't ever a problem like somebody

that baseball fans didn't appreciate or like.

He's retired now.

He was on the broadcast last night sitting next

to the dugout in a suit.

I saw that.

Interesting.

Imagine a manager.

I mean, the managers of Red Sox,

folk hero for me.

So it's mooky bets for that matter.

So there is that.

I mean, yeah, Dave Roberts is,

you know, responsible for one of the greatest moments

in the history of the Red Sox franchise.

Not everybody would feel the same way

about either any of these guys,

but for me,

I mean, even even gets a gets beyond those names.

Like the lesser stars, Tiasco Hernandez

or a few other guys.

I don't know, like they just I think I should be.

Yeah, at a point where I sort of especially

being with Toronto last year, but I'm really not.

So I don't know if there's something about them

that makes them immune to this kind of thing

or if I'm just sort of on on my own,

but you're with me on this point.

I'm kind of with you.

Yeah, like they don't.

I think it is the casual thing.

I mean, even though you care about Toronto,

you're not living and dying on it.

Like you wanted them to win,

but it's not like so you're not bitter about it.

I don't think anyway.

And that that is, you know,

if you're way all the way in with a team,

then maybe that would be different.

But I'm really not that way about any even the Red Sox.

I mean, I'm I'm enjoying this sort of little rebirth

going to the game last year and following with following them

with my son and we're going to go to a couple of games

in the summer in Pittsburgh.

And I like I like that.

It feels good to be sort of reengaged with them,

but I'm not, you know,

I don't know what their lineup looks like yet.

And every time I sat down to watch them last year,

I'd be like, I don't know who that is.

Who is that?

So I maybe I'll do better than that this year.

And it's early, this this didn't start for me last year

until I decided to go to a game.

And I was kind of playing catch up for the,

you know, the back end of the summer.

Want to know, right, right?

You know, yesterday we had the Mets.

And you were talking about something in reference,

like I'm not really a Mets fan anymore.

I was in the 80s pretty intensely.

And then that I grew out of it.

But this is 40 years since 86.

I know they're doing a lot with it.

Oh, yeah.

Different like wall of fame,

inductions and an overall like a team reunion.

I couldn't sure they will milk the hell out of it.

They couldn't just wait until 50.

Well, they'll probably do it again and 50, right?

Yeah, but you know,

guys pass on.

I mean, you got to do what you

can do when you can do it.

This is a great spot, right?

40 years since that epic world series.

And so maybe this year I'll get a little bit.

Like if there's a reunion,

an 86 Mets reunion,

and I'm home, I'm going to want to see it.

And some of those guys are still very prominent

as broadcasters like Hernandez and darling.

Sure.

Yeah.

So it's not like good and in strawberry,

their stories have been told so many times.

They're not like out of the public eye altogether.

So it won't be,

yeah, I haven't seen this face in forever,

you know, it'd be quite like that.

Some of them.

We're all wondering what Rick Aguilera is doing now.

And does he still have that like magic marker beard?

He used to rock.

Then he ever really tightly trimmed later.

Yeah, like a show almost a little more than the shadow,

but a beard.

Yeah, like Ryan Day.

Get right.

That's when he went to the twins Aguilera

and was the closer for the kids.

He got that beard off.

Maybe he felt Jeff Reardon pressure.

But what the match now with the match.

Okay.

When Dave Henderson hits that homer,

you can see his face.

Okay.

There's no beard.

All right.

Right.

We lost Gary Carter.

Right.

Yes.

Anyone else that you can think like,

you know what?

This is, I don't even really want to admit this.

But when I think about like old teams,

that's one of the first things I think about

is how many of them are dead.

Yeah.

You know, sort of like,

because it's a, it's morbid.

I don't know why I think about that.

But it starts with how long ago it was.

Yeah.

And I can remember it.

You know, I would, I lived through it.

And you know, some of those guys,

those guys would be all like in their 60s or

even older depending on who we're talking about.

And you know, life.

But I don't know about anybody else in the match team.

Boston though.

It was not you and me, right?

It was at the baseball draft.

I went to in Philadelphia.

We were talking about this.

The 86 Red Sox Henderson is dead.

Seever was on that team is dead.

Baylor is dead was on that, you know,

Buckner is dead.

I think there was someone else.

Well, the manager probably is dead, right?

I guess I don't know that one for sure.

But, but, yeah.

McNamara probably, yeah.

Davy Johnson is dead.

Trying to think who else?

The manager.

I'm McNamara died in 2012.

I don't want to start guessing it.

Whether, I don't.

But the reason that that's not a good,

that's not a good radio.

Who's dead?

803.

But when I, when I asked you,

you know what I first thought I was,

Lenny Dijkstra seems like he could be dead.

But I don't think he's not.

He's not incredible.

He's had this incredible,

this very rough around the edges is a way to put it gently.

I guess life after baseball.

Oh, my God.

Nobody's ever been more rough around the edges than nails.

He absolutely picture in the,

whatever the book is that has terms.

It wouldn't be a dictionary entry,

but whatever that book is, there's Dijkstra.

Yep.

Well, I don't know if he's persona non grata

or what if he's around for any sort of reunion stuff.

But he's also somebody that's,

has not hidden from the public.

No, Sphere.

No, he's Dijkstra.

Kind of.

Yeah, he's stern fan knows that's right.

He's a little maybe his son.

Oh, my God.

Actually more than head from it.

Incredible.

Yeah.

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