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Welcome back to Numbers on the Board.
Numbers on the Board, yes!
It is a very special day, y'all.
March Madness.
Not a very special day.
It's a brand new day.
And I can't be more excited.
If you know you know, how are you feeling today?
Feeling amazing.
I had my coffee this morning.
I'm ready to go.
Let's coffee get you to runs.
Um, at least not now.
So, I'm okay.
I mean, it is one of those things that help you go.
Not a real sense.
You're supposed to give you diarrhea.
Is that how liquid too?
Yeah.
Whenever you put anything warm inside your guts,
it's supposed to help you.
Try to just things out.
Yeah.
It makes you go.
Okay.
It says your guts for show.
You quit inside your guts.
Have we got you off the mic?
We do.
I'm going to start with the conversation.
What are some things that were once rare in the NBA
that have really become the norm?
If you kind of need it,
just a second to think about it.
Shootin' trees on a fast break.
Hey, I had a list.
And that was one of the first things on the shootin' threes
and pull ups on the fast break.
Yeah.
And my day of basketball,
I would have got you taken out of the game.
I would have got you scolded.
You would have gotten trouble.
Yeah.
Actually.
And now, I think sometimes you could get a trouble
for not doing it.
I would also say, base getting offensive rebounds
and immediately looking to pass it out for the three-point shot.
I feel like back in the day,
if you're big at the office of rebound,
they're taking that up.
Because the two was easier than the three.
Dependent.
I'll have some teammates where he was definitely like,
hey, kick that out.
They should throw that out, big fella, right?
You don't throw that out, right?
Because you missed the two layups, right?
I appreciate your big fella.
All five players have the luxury of grabbing and go.
You know, you used to be just found your point guard
to get this break started.
And then the big fella is like, I got this.
Almost like across every team.
It feels like.
Got just got the lead way to drumming down.
Just take it up.
Drumming.
Just go.
Stuff like that is just like, I don't know.
I got to understand it, right?
Because these are NBA players at the end of the day, right?
And you don't want the defense to set up.
So let's just run.
Let's just go.
It's a lot of things, man.
The game is completely different than 10 years ago.
And even crazier that compared to 20 years ago.
Yeah.
I had also put down just the amount of free throws
that players get.
I think that especially just like the 20 free throw mark
usually felt like the Kobe is there.
The car mellows would get in and even like
superstars wouldn't even really get to that 20 benchmark.
But like now we have like
all stars that can shoot 20 free throws in the game.
People are just like kind of adapted to trying to get to the line.
It's like,
it used to be really a superstar call thing.
But now we see a lot of players get there.
Yeah.
I can see that.
But I also feel like super yes.
Also, I love the players.
I feel like they come and go.
Why wouldn't comes to the free throw thing?
But the superstars, I feel like they always want to get that.
Do you know of league wide free throws
up in comparison to when we were younger?
Or you just saying,
No, just a feeling of it.
Like I've seen Denny shoot 20 free throws before.
And as it's like,
people that shot free throws,
it's like Shaq can shoot 20 free throws in the game.
Because he's just going to get fed that much.
But we see players kind of like of all different styles.
They just get to the line.
You know,
another one is,
obviously I feel like the score and just 50 point games in general.
So diluted.
Yeah.
I mean, when Terrence raw score 50,
he was a super big deal.
Because it's like,
we just,
role players didn't usually score 50.
Now I think the,
we see a role player score 50 is like,
yeah,
see the highlights in the morning or something like that.
So dang.
That's how you feel.
If you get a notification that's so and so player got 40,
you know, like,
all let me see if they do that.
I do.
I do.
But I'm just saying,
I was going to say,
I feel like that wasn't one of them like,
wait, what?
I felt like that was one of the last ones.
I was getting to that point.
I think the Malachi was a,
how many,
how many 54 games you think we've had this season so far?
Wait,
12 games left each team.
12 games.
I don't feel like we've had a lot.
Probably like four.
Four.
Four.
Five.
Four.
We just had almost two in one game.
83.
I'm going to say,
I'll say 12.
I say like 15.
The number is 14.
Yeah, we have 14 of them.
I'm starting off with Eric Gordon.
You set the season off.
Yeah.
It was a little 50 ball.
They don't feel like we've had a lot of the season.
I wonder what that is.
Wow.
This comparison.
Four is very crazy.
Yeah.
I feel like I just,
I didn't watch to pull more.
Four of them may have happened this month alone.
They feel like,
Luke ahead of 50 peace against the bulls.
Bandon had his 80.
Yeah.
Daven Booker might have had a 40 ball against the South.
Daven Booker in.
Jaylen Brown had 40 in the same game.
So Daven Booker, you're four right there.
Yeah.
We got more news this morning.
The K Cunningham is going to be missing some extended time
with a collapse lung.
Which is just super unfortunate for all parties.
It's unfortunate for the fans.
Obviously we love watching K.
It's unfortunate for K.
Because I haven't had a collapse lung,
but my wife's brother has.
And the way he talked about it,
you might as well put a bullet in his head.
Like that's how painful it was.
But also,
he's only played 61 games, y'all.
K Cunningham is an all in a first team candidate.
And there's a world,
depending on how he recovers from this,
where he doesn't even qualify for all NBA just like that.
Which is,
that's so crazy to me,
because he obviously has a lot to make the top two teams,
maybe even for a lot of people,
a lot to make the first team.
And now,
depending on how he recovers,
he may not make it at all.
Yeah, this is really unfortunate.
And you've got to,
you never want to deal with an injury going into the playoffs.
I don't know what it's like to play coming off of a collapse lung.
I've never had this issue.
So,
I could only imagine that
cardio-wise
it's probably going to be some sort of adjustment
once he does come back.
And that's just not something you want to deal with
going into your first round playoff series.
Yeah,
I saw this morning,
because a lot of people,
obviously, have seen the news
of all the different cases in recent history
of people in the NBA,
have had collapsed lung.
So,
he's McCullum had two.
One time,
it kept him out three weeks,
one time,
it kept him out six weeks.
There's another guy who was this out two weeks.
So, like,
it can definitely vary
as just depending on
Cade's recovery.
The thing about it, too,
is like,
there was a time
where I thought I made have had it collapsed lung
because it,
it does,
it's something with your back.
So, like,
Cade Cunningham first
was reported as having a back issue.
So,
that's also the lingering thing,
to even once he recovers
from the collapse of lung,
you hope that,
because you're back.
Hey, man.
That's how you move,
man.
Your back is the most important thing.
I was just dealing with back
tightness,
the whole past week.
And I can imagine playing basketball.
You know what I mean?
It's just me trying to.
Trying to guard up on somebody.
Yeah.
I'm just sitting around a crib,
you know,
but like, actually trying to be with it.
He got,
just,
just,
oh jeers somebody,
just pressing them all the way up the court
and you're back.
He's like,
yeah, yeah.
And then like,
I keep thinking about,
let's say he does miss,
yeah,
just the two weeks,
three weeks,
and he does have enough games
to maybe get to that.
That's what we're going to project.
Yeah.
Because of the rule,
they're going to do the three weeks.
And even if he's not 100%,
and I just,
I hate that idea.
Boom.
Yeah.
I think that's the short,
like the bad side of the stick
with the,
the new 65 rule,
is,
I don't know,
this is not what they kind of wanted
to prevent.
Like they wanted to prevent people
from sitting out
and doing all the,
the, the rest management,
having him miss
all the NBA team
and not really getting the accolades
because of the 65,
it does,
doesn't tell the story
of the whole season.
It reminds me of making a rule
for your kid.
Hey,
don't answer the door
for anybody.
And you come
with a handful of groceries
and you like,
open a door with me.
You said not to open a door
for anybody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
His mom had told him
not to open a door.
And his grandma was at the door.
He was at the door talking
about I live.
Yeah.
He said apparently not
if he ain't got no kid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's really what it's about.
Just trying to rush it back.
I just feel like there's no,
no good that can happen
from that.
Um,
if there's any silver lining,
Kate is not one of those
extension eligible guys.
You already got his Supermax
extension.
So the money is not going to
change.
But I would be just really
surprised if we're two years
from now in the 65 game rules
still exists.
It's just,
I just did like a mock
all in the 18.
Not only the 13 is good,
but it don't feel like
it's going to seem to me.
You know,
and now Kate's gone.
God.
At least some of the people
that was James Harden.
Welcome to all NBA.
It was like a really good player.
But I think the story comes down to
like what are the games
look like?
If it's like that in teams
or I mean,
players are only having 60
games played and they're
only missing about a handful
of games.
I think that's more so the story.
But if players are legit
missing the time,
I think it's like,
it's fine.
But 60,
61, 62.
I don't like those.
I think Kate might be
the first actual case
that we have.
Of, you know,
you remember when they first
originally said,
like, hey, if you close,
you can send it to the league
and they'll decide,
Kate might be the first person
to actually be able to do that.
If he misses all NBA
back four games,
because he's at 61 right now.
If he misses about four games
while having one of the seven
best seasons in the NBA,
they better write in
and the NBA better give him a
good play.
I mean, there's a couple of,
I mean, when he, again,
he could knock on wood.
He has to miss a game.
Just say for illness or whatever.
Like, it's going to start creeping
towards it.
And there's a couple of players
you don't want to take them
out of the history books
for this year,
because they've just been
so great.
Hopefully they do that.
Hopefully they don't press
to get every game.
And they miss a game or two
and you're sitting
into the league.
So we can start that
established rule
and a thumb knowing that,
hey, you ain't got to break
your neck for specifically
65.
I mean, you play 63 games,
you're good, bro.
Yeah.
Because that would be
as a nine.
With three and a half game
different between them
and the Celtics,
do you think the Pistons
keep that one C for the rest
of the year if Kate doesn't play?
It's going to be tough.
Especially, yeah,
especially with double
digit games love.
That's what we tell.
Yeah.
It's going to be tough.
Yeah.
We'll talk about more basketball
when we come back with numbers
on the board.
I know we are excited
for March Madness
and we can get into some
things with that.
But I did want to say,
for me personally,
y'all let me know if
you all agree, disagree,
this is an open conversation
or write a wrong answer.
Yesterday was a tough,
one of those tough days
for me.
So I'm already in a point
at a season
where I'm struggling
because I am so into
the college basketball world.
But I also know I have
a duty and a job to do
to keep up with the NBA
and it's getting close
and close to the playoffs.
So you want to kind of
get your gears ready.
But last night to me
was one of those nights
that kind of had me
a little frustrated
with the NBA.
I felt like last night was
some BS,
almost every game.
I said,
I'll text.
I looked, I was going,
I was watching,
I forget what game.
I was watching Clippers
versus Pelicans.
And the Pelicans
were turning a ball
over at a disgusting rate.
I think they had
eight turnovers
in the first quarter
to the Clippers none.
And they came back.
And they did come back
and went.
But as I'm looking
to potentially switch
the game,
every game was disgusting.
Really the thunder
and the nets was crazy.
Yeah.
But then I was
very excited for that game too.
Then I'm looking at another game.
12 point lead here.
14 point lead there.
16 points down
about 30 going into half.
And I text y'all
like,
it's crazy.
And then we just
talked about it in between
blocks of like the y'all
want to talk about anything
and be related and out.
So we're just like,
we can try,
but I don't really
have much because I,
like I refuse to sit there
and watch BS
because it's called
unquote March.
Yeah.
The nets tied
to franchise record
for the lowest amount
of points going to halftime.
They had 20,
I think they had 23 points
going to halftime.
I just don't,
that's just unheard of.
Look at me having
that in the first quarter.
Shout to prices though.
Right since the bar did
have another 40 point game.
In a 30 point loss.
So shout to hell.
Shout out to Bryce.
I mean,
I gave what you saying
for sure.
It's just,
I think it also plays
at a part of the length
of the season, right?
And especially the,
the goals
of these NBA teams.
Because,
not that we could have
predicted that it will be
seven 20 point games.
But you see, like,
playoff team versus
Bond Feed.
And we kind of be like,
okay, okay,
C's going to Brooklyn.
They probably
going to win by a lot of points.
And you kind of felt that.
And that's why at this point
we're going to have two
games. And like,
this is my,
it's Lakers versus Rockets
is my game of the night.
And you know what,
if anything else gets
close, then I'll tune in.
Like the grizzies
beating up on the nuggets.
I tune into that one
for the last quarter.
Because that was a
close game.
That was a discussion.
Shout out to Ty Jerome.
Shout out to Ty Jerome.
Did the nuggets have
like 20 plus turnovers?
Ten of those was
yokets from South America.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was just like,
yokets has more turnovers
than assists.
Like, this is unheard of.
That's not in the
Coli yokets.
It's, um,
like, the last one.
So, but no, I,
I could clearly understand it.
I think that what's
disingenuous is like,
I think Bill Simmons
made the tweet of like
screenshot in that OKC
score versus the,
the Brooklyn score like,
um, sarcastically saying,
yeah, let's expand the league
for two more teams.
They're like,
trying to showcase
that the league is not
that deep where it can't
afford two teams.
And I just feel like that's so
disingenuous.
Because you can,
you can take a screenshot
of so many random days
of like a super blowout.
And that doesn't show
the value of the teams
across the league,
if that makes sense.
Yeah.
Just a few years ago,
the OKC Thunder lost the game
by 72 points,
and then they won the
championship two years later.
So like, it's going to be
times where you have these
super bad teams
going to lose by 20,
but that doesn't mean that
we shouldn't expand,
or that doesn't mean that the
league isn't super talented.
You also have to remember
what the goals
of these teams are.
The Brooklyn that's
could very well put together
a good-ish team next season
if they wanted to.
They just don't,
didn't want to this season
because this is the one
year they have their own.
I feel dumb.
But damn it.
I mean, you're going to have
the kids in a city.
You shouldn't want to have
23 points at the hat.
Oh, 100%.
That's all we say.
You don't even plan on
something like that.
You can lose some games.
I'm with you.
Build your team up.
Do it everything you got to
do.
But I mean, you got people
in your city that is paying
money because this is my
thing.
If you're going to have that
approach and give us 23 points
a time, you see home game.
Look, hey, them fans
go crazy over there.
Right, yeah.
But Brooklyn that's
if I got the ASCick
at home as well.
No, no, no, no.
This was a Brooklyn
game.
And they had no kids.
Because the fans was
cursed.
Give those tickets away.
Get them tickets away.
I'm a big fan of that,
man.
If you're going to lose on
purpose.
I'm not saying you can't
make no money.
I'm not saying that you give
four seats away.
But like do something that
do a night.
Hey, man.
Yeah, I'm a big fan of
that.
If you go and have
asked your fans, didn't
like give them some
rewards, some
reward back.
You know, I'm not saying
they can't make money.
They have to make money.
And the business
is going to be a lot of
money.
But I think you do a service
to your fans when you
acknowledge, hey, you know
what?
We are thinking we've been
taking for a couple of
minutes, not today.
This is an NBA.
We've been taking for some
years.
We do have a blue collar city
behind us that we still want
to be engaged throughout this
period because we do want to
put together a winner.
So we're going to pay it
for for y'all by having a
certain night.
And yeah, it's just
something.
Something.
You know what I mean?
It's not my job to come up
with the plan for them.
But man, it ain't nothing
to sell the kids to bring
in a report cars.
And if you guys, you
are three or more a's,
you get to get a free
ticket.
There's a lot of a's, man.
It's very simple.
Very simple.
Very simple.
I don't actually think
she sounds like a cool
ass incentive.
Yeah.
Just something.
I'm still thinking about
that the bill Simmons
come into just because
I'm looking at a lot of
these raw
especially the teams
are just going to be
dislating the season.
So many players are
sitting out.
Like teams are playing
not even really
close to 100%.
They don't even have
their top players
out there some of the time.
Again, I was
fake excited for this game
right?
Yeah.
I tuned in.
And then let me see
what this guy's name is.
I tuned in.
And Malachi Smith was
playing for the first
quarter minutes.
Malachi Smith checked
in the first quarter.
And I did something
I've done a lot this last
week and a half.
He had Google and that.
He had the Google and that.
Who is this guy?
And where is he from?
Gonzaga.
He also, I don't actually
see this one.
He's got that one.
Oh, he did.
He did.
I was patched.
So shout out to you
for your NBA Navy with
everything.
I even played 10 guys
in the first half.
Jalen Wilson had a
little 15.
I was fake excited for it
because I really like
Jordy Fernandez.
And I think that he's a
very good schemer.
So I want to see what he did
against Shay.
And they sent two bodies
at him like late doubles
and Shay just picked the
party.
He was just magical.
Yeah.
He still had 40.
But again, I had to turn
the game off about halfway
through the second quarter
because it was like
I think we also do get the
good games like the
Lakers versus Rockets,
which I feel like there's
nothing new to say
because we just saw this
match up tonight to go
other than Luke
continuing to be ridiculous
and Braun.
Roll player, Braun still
dropping 30.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Two shots in the fourth
quarter.
Yeah.
I think.
Again, I'm going to say
something real quick about
the Lakers.
I get to the Rockets.
But again, I thought this game
was going to be a lot tougher
just in it.
They did fight back.
And you know, they
definitely had their runs.
But it's just harder to be
the team twice in that
short span of time.
And you would think, you
know, the adjustments are
being made.
And we just know how to
prepare.
Yeah.
I'll say it's single.
Single and being back
was also another factor.
But we were kind of able to
just do what we did.
And again, it's being
consistent on that level.
That's what separates
a lot of these great teams
from just the good teams
and the better teams.
Is there able to do this
on a nightly basis?
And for the last couple
of games, the Lakers
have done an on a nightly
basis.
How y'all feel about
eating squat or y'all
buying it?
He basically said that
he looked in the mirror
and said, I'm not that
guy.
I'm not that guy.
Oh, I love it.
I'm 100% buying it.
When did he say that?
Like a few days ago.
Okay.
So he's got like three
game two games.
Yeah.
Because him and Luca
in that pick and roll.
They just hunt his
shingo.
And I read this morning.
It was a 1.7 points
per possession out of a pick
and roll with shingo and
was guard, which is like,
you run that.
You never lose a basketball
game, you know.
So yeah, it was cool.
A lot of conversations
about him being like.
Luca, EVP stuff?
How do y'all
feel about that?
I think he he's definitely
dessert.
He should be in
the conversation for sure.
Is he number one number
two, number three, or y'all
battle today?
Obviously with Luca
13.
No, he would be number two.
I sure.
I put him at three.
What if you're not a EVP?
I don't give it to you.
You know, we always make
a fool out of it.
It's two or three.
I think she's still not
working.
We did so much talking
about the shei stuff with
the, especially against
the knuckers game.
I'm not about to just all
of a sudden, because we
I think that's, I think he's out of real arguing for two.
I think Shay's still one, but I think you could, you could make a argument for him over
Wimbenyama and Yo-Kitch at this point in the season.
Well, in that way, I have no idea.
Yeah, not.
Could he close the gap between him and Shay these days?
It would be, I think it would be really, really tough, man.
They would have to, like, finish the season, like, damn down the feed and...
Yeah, it would be really, really tough.
The way they play it ain't impossible.
It definitely ain't impossible.
I'm about to make a video about Joe Lakers and I gotta send the first minute...
They're probably gonna lose tonight, because, you know, sometimes I make a video about
a team and then they lose, like, look at Kenny Jinks and the team, because they go
against the mind of the heat, and I read this morning that they didn't land until 6am.
So it's like...
That's okay.
This is the schedule of...
Lebron is the third option for the Lakers has been, like, the most amazing thing ever.
Like, Austin Reeves.
Him as a player operates more with the ball and just being the second option, and Lebron
is just such a great player.
He just drives kind of wherever.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lebron doesn't play tonight, because he said he didn't feel
good playing yesterday.
That's my hand.
He dumped the ball six times, it's in my hand.
Out.
Dr. Balls is sad.
That's sad.
That way he's kind of in the bass lines, like, I don't even know.
Like, I'm in Thompson.
Well, look at the whom they love, Lebron.
Ooh.
Ooh.
I mean, the first lob...
I think Marcus Smart threw in that lob, he had to go all the way back.
I think that's my favorite Laker outside of Luka.
Marcus Smart.
Marcus Smart is.
Hey.
You don't know.
Marcus Smart, he played hard.
He played hard.
All right.
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Hey, man.
Last few times I picked Russ in the pick set.
He delivered.
And so I think I'm going to ride this wave until I can't know more.
He's got me what I need it.
And one thing about him, he's going to spoon feed his bigs and find a way to get those assists.
So shout out to Russell Westbrook, they're playing against Philadelphia tonight.
I wouldn't be surprised if he got a triple double.
That brother can ball.
Yeah, you said something that was very special to me.
He said he always spoon feeds his big fellas.
I personally went with pressure to chew your moral points.
13 and a half.
We in this together.
We in this together.
But with my head, we we feeling great.
See, I don't know if you know, but I covered UCLA back in 1989.
That brother played not only with Darren Collison and Kevin Love back then,
but we talking about a brother.
Don't get your say a Johnson.
Don't forget your say a Johnson.
He was on that team.
I think so.
I think you're saying what's on that team.
We're talking about a guy.
First ball in Hall of Fame, a walk through the dough, get you a triple double.
Rock with Russell Westbrook.
I feel like.
The big sneezes there too.
Mike, Ryan Roll, a 17 and a half points more versus Utah.
Yeah, this should be a pretty decent game.
Why do you laugh through that?
Because you know it's not.
Ryan Roll, I just think a lot of people are kind of questionable for this game.
And Ryan Roll and he should be there.
And he's one of their value guys.
I feel confident with him.
Okay.
Lastly, Derek, Deb Vaseo, more on points at 12 and a half.
You struggling brother.
You need versus Phoenix.
Yeah, I felt like this 12 and a half seemed very gettable for Devin Vaseo,
or especially over the last four games he's hit this three times.
So I'm feeling pretty confident in this.
This is a dude that can go out there and get you a bucket.
And I think that's what he's going to do tonight against Phoenix.
Okay.
Where should we know Dylan Brooks?
I think the game of the day is probably the Lakers Heat Game.
I feel like any game right now with that Lucas playing as the game tonight.
The game of the day if we be in on this.
It's Troy is on this piece of paper.
It's definitely going to be a lot of games.
So y'all keep on my pick six for me because I won't be watching NBA today.
I'm looking at a Duke is a 27 and a half point favorite versus Sienna.
Oh, I think I know.
I think I know.
Let me tell you this.
Sienna has a guy on 18.
Brennan Coyle who shoots eight shots a game.
Right.
I had those eight shots.
Seven are three.
He's six seven.
What do you think he shoots from three?
80%.
40.
The reason the reason I was about to say it's got to be something really.
He shoots 29% from three, but he shoots seven.
Three is a game out of his eight attempts.
That's a coach.
Shooter shoot.
And he's seven.
Where do you count Mr. Shoot if he shoots 20?
He shot 42 pointers this year.
Uh-huh.
He's six seven.
Yeah.
Same like upside.
Cause he might get hot tonight.
Yeah.
That's not even a big spread though.
Because Michigan is favored by 31 and a half versus Howard.
I like that.
31 and a half.
Shot to Blake Harper.
He should have stayed at Howard.
31 and a half.
31 and a half is nuts.
You got to see that and go out there.
You dare you can't.
Yeah, you can't.
You like.
I don't know.
Anyway, uh, when we come back, we'll get into a little bit of March Madness Talk.
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So it is March Madness.
Today is Thursday, the games actually kick off pretty soon.
I know y'all are not guys that love or not.
No, no, no, y'all love March Madness.
Everybody loves March Madness.
Y'all don't keep up with college basketball throughout the season.
Which I think is incredible personally.
I think this makes for great conversation, great bracket talk.
I had a lot of people, y'all probably know similar people as well, where their job, school or something is doing a bracket challenge.
And they probably feel like, oh, I don't watch college basketball.
But I like those out of people that should do it.
So when y'all have taken a glance at y'all brackets over the last few days,
give me some of the upsets that y'all pick and tell me why it might be logo based.
It might be, you know, you heard something.
Y'all don't strike me as I'm going to watch some YouTube videos about the tournament.
So take us into the mind of the unknowns.
Yeah, for one of my upsets, I have the Akron Zips beat in Texas Tech.
You got to look at a lot of these like hot teams coming into the tournament.
And they're definitely one of them.
I'm also looking at the other side where Texas Tech lost JT Topping.
Is that just making an easy game for Akron?
Absolutely not. Still going to be a tough game.
But it's going to be a factor.
And for one of these like lower C to teams,
all I'd be taking is that one win to really get the confidence going and to really spark a run.
So after the zips in college football, they're the worst team in the game.
They are.
Yeah.
Like a 508 rate.
And that's a team called the basketball.
Did you build them up?
I have done a rebuild of them.
Absolutely.
They got nice facility.
I know.
They got a guard.
They got a guard drew like, so I hope you will tune in and watch the game.
I enjoy my relationships and I'm biased.
So I'm picking Christian Anderson in Texas Tech.
Shut up to them.
I'm biased.
I don't care.
Um, I'm, I'm anti UNC every year.
I want to pick them to lose in the first round every season.
But I'm, I definitely, I don't know if I've had a single bracket where UNC has been in the sweet 16.
Like I'm always picking against them.
And I'm picking against them in the first round.
Okay.
Good old fashioned VCU win.
I like when he was kids.
Give me, give me the 11C VCU overnight.
You got a good freshman guard.
I picked McNeese over Vanderbilt in the first round.
That's so hilarious.
For the people at home, the reason they just made that.
No, no.
I did this yesterday.
The reason it's so funny is because one of our producers, Christian, you may know from teed up.
He has to shave his head if that happens.
So actually, I'm with you brother.
Let's go McNeese.
I also picked VCU over North Carolina.
Okay.
So we, that's okay.
No, Caleb Wilson.
So I still like, uh, I still like North Carolina.
I like VCU center too.
I think it's going to be a good matchup.
I like Troy.
I, I, I, I, I, I play over in Nebraska.
I couldn't do it.
I, I went, I changed it to Nebraska.
Ooh, but you thought about it for a second.
I did at least.
Okay.
I was just saying stuff about it.
I have no idea who's on either.
I had a few upsets on it.
Hoiberg.
Hoiberg.
Oh, Hoiberg's on.
Be locking up.
You better get into him.
I, I'm saying Hoiberg.
I picked it against Illinois.
What?
And what went around?
Pennsylvania.
Did you smoke a crack?
He has to be here.
That ain't even nothing that I considered.
What?
I know nothing.
But I don't know.
I don't know what he's saying.
Whenever I feel like I believe in Illinois.
So Derek, how many upsets do you have?
You know the average age is like 32 years old.
They get real.
This is only on the south side of the bracket.
Right.
So how many upsets do you have?
I don't know.
4, 5.
In total?
Yeah.
Or only net bracket.
No, no, no whole bracket.
Because that's why I revised my bracket.
Because I was like, I got too much going on.
And the upset numbers I've dropping throughout the years.
Yep.
Oh, that transfer, man.
So we're going to get some.
But I like your Northern Iowa pick.
Northern Iowa.
They play slow.
They defensive minded.
They've done it before.
I like that one.
I do remember that.
I'm a high point guy.
Personally, I went high point over Wisconsin.
As much as I hate you.
I did too.
Because I like Wisconsin a lot.
But I took high point.
You're so funny, KV.
Because you just said me too.
Not it.
Somebody go right here.
I did.
I went high point over Wisconsin.
I like them a little annoying.
Whenever I feel like I want them to win.
They lose.
So Pierre is just based off his side.
And somebody that actually watches the league and everything.
Yeah.
How do you feel when you and Derek have the same bracket?
I got this by several years.
I'll find one.
I'm fine with it.
Because Derek, we don't have the same bracket.
We have the same pick.
Oh, yeah.
He did say Illinois's, Illinois versus Penn's Nuts.
And they are the 26 and a half point favorites right now.
Illinois is.
I always said that would be the biggest upset since Virginia.
I also don't have Northern Iowa.
I just said I like the pick.
Okay.
of Northern Iowa had better luck,
they would have been a pick for me.
Right now, as live on the show,
I got Cal Baptist beating Kansas.
Oh wow.
But that's one of the picks I might change.
Okay.
You guys, you still got an hour?
You still got an hour.
Yeah, I woke up this morning and changed some things,
and that might be another one.
Is there, is there any NBA players on Kansas this year?
Yeah, there in Peterson.
What the hell are you talking about?
Oh, well, oh yeah, that's true.
Michael Brown is rude out for Louisville,
so I went to South Florida in that matchup
because I was having a hard time between those two.
I think it's gonna be fun, man.
But there in Peterson really separated himself?
No.
No, no.
You get the question out there, he's like,
oh, okay.
I mean, he's there in Peterson.
How much separation is he gonna get?
I mean, I've seen Mox, where AJ goes first.
Like, is there where?
Yeah, that's why I feel like at this point,
they're both kind of, you know,
it's like interchangeable at this point.
Yeah, but I don't think anybody's creating
any separate, I think that's how he, he already too.
Yeah, like what is going to be zero?
Not just like the guaranteed one.
I don't think nobody's gonna be again,
because that depends on who's picking one.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
I'll mention it just a team that I like.
I like Houston.
Obviously, we talk about like Cinderella teams
and they, I think you're too see but like,
I really, Cinderella somebody.
What?
I didn't say that was a Cinderella team.
I just had a team I like.
I really like Kingston Fleming,
just a young guy that's really got a lot of game.
I mean, people always talk about these guys,
like turn over your size and all that,
but like not all these young guys can be perfect,
but for him to be 19 and doing the stuff
that he's doing kind of like leading this team,
Houston has always been that team that's been
super physical, especially last year.
Their offense just wasn't that good,
but this year they have a pretty decent offense,
which is good for you,
so I like riding with them for this year.
So I like you locked in a little,
that at the analysis, I sound like you're an analysis.
Yeah, I'm a watching.
So you say you like them,
you have them as like the winner of the entire tourney?
Yeah.
Oh, am I, yeah, am I team this tourney?
It was just funny.
He called it toothy, he's Cinderella.
He didn't.
He said we was on the topic of Cinderella.
Oh, yeah, on the topic.
But he's talking about a team that ain't a Cinderella.
Okay.
I like Houston too.
I had Northern Iowa going on like a Cinderella run.
What's that to you?
Making it to, they played Duke for me in round 60,
and make it to the 316.
Okay.
It won't you be Kansas in that second round.
Okay.
Okay.
Take out St. John's in Kansas.
Wow.
Micah team, I want you to watch.
If you have time, Ohio State.
This is going to be one of the first games.
We might still be here when that's game start.
Ohio State versus TCU.
Ohio State got a guy that you would like
and Brew Store all time leading score.
Ohio State, a little guard, get to get to it.
How many years?
See you for, yeah.
This is the first year, your first year in the tournament too.
And his back court may, uh,
mobily, I don't know, I don't realize.
Ohio State fell off that much and they made the tournament.
They've had some coaching changes or whatever.
Um, well, I think that back court is Mike Cintric.
That's a bit of a two 20 point scores almost.
When I think Brew Store is the only 20 point score,
mobily might be close, might be 15, 16.
Both shoot 40% from three.
Go get it.
Just just, I mean, especially like first round,
you just might see a lot of like,
just blowouts because it's like, it's just top teams going against the lower
seats, but that's what kind of gave me a bit.
No, I don't think that's the case at all.
I think you're going to see some shit that's going to blow your mind.
I think that's the purpose of March, man.
Yeah, I was going to say, I was about to get to what we are going to say.
But it's like that, but you get so much of the late game.
Every possession matters.
Feel that you just don't always get in the NBA in April or in March.
Yeah, that's why my video, I was telling people like,
sometimes in the NBA, covering the NBA,
you got guys that you don't like to go against.
Like, man, I ain't going to get stuff in the foot.
But like, when Kauai is locked in,
you can't go against Kauai Aluka.
I, when I'm talking about my bracket, like for TCU,
I switched to Ohio State,
but it's hard for me to go against Jamie Dixon, the coach.
Tom Izzo, I liked North Dakota State.
It's hard for me to go against Tom Izzo in March.
It's less player-centric, but more so,
like the coach in the program,
I'm not going against certain coaches
because when they get to March,
they got the execution down pat.
And so that's what I like.
And then you have so many different, it's 64 teams.
You got some teams that don't shoot threes.
They only want twos.
You got some teams that only want threes.
They don't want to shoot twos.
You got a team like Texas A&M.
I see in Texas A&M when I was grinding a film,
they pressed off of a miss.
How many teams do you see in press off of a miss?
Yeah, you got to press it off of me.
You got teams that want to control the offensive glass.
You got teams that swing the ball.
You got like, it's so any different style.
You got teams who play through their centers.
You don't know me, like St. John's,
their center is almost like an outjefferson of today.
Like, you know what I mean?
Troy, their center leads them in assists.
You know, like right state who I love,
got my boy Michael Cooper,
who leads the team and scoring off the bench
as a freshman.
So it's so many different styles.
It's so many different ways that basketball can be played.
And I'm going to be an attendance for all of this
because this also happens fast.
We'll get here on Monday and half of the practice.
We're going to win all of it.
Shout out to Illinois.
That's my pick.
I love it.
Johnson, when we come back,
we got more numbers on the board.
All right, so we bring in a statement calling
the good or the bad.
So we had roughly over 60 games to watch some of these guys.
Oh, we back at the NBA.
That's not me college related.
What I want y'all to do is tell me the good
that you love about these guys and what's the bad
and what you would like to see them improve on.
Or the number one guy, Scotty Barnes.
Scotty, I did a little segment
while I was answering questions and somebody asked me,
we always talk about offensive systems in the NBA.
The Lucas, the Shades, the Yoke,
you know, the people that are offensive systems.
We haven't talked about defensive systems.
And we borrowed up like, ready to go beer
or Victor Wimba Newhamma.
And the third name that the person that asked me
says like Scotty Barnes.
I was like, I don't know if Scotty Barnes
is the offensive system by himself,
but he's pretty close to it.
So the thing that I love about Scotty Barnes
is that defense.
It's how he's so rangel.
You never really know what his assignment
is going to be on a nightly basis,
but whatever it is, you can expect it to be
an A to A plus production.
So defense, baby.
What I love about Scotty Barnes is I remember,
this is a little bit more early in the season,
but I still think some of this applies.
He can play with it so many different people.
When they would have a crazy run of success,
and you will go through the lineups
in the different successes,
he was a part of almost every successful lineup.
You know, there was questions of how of him,
RJ Barrett and Ingram, all of that
meshin' up together, him and CMB.
Some people felt was redundant.
Well, like some of the best gritty dick lineups
early on in the season, and Jacobi Walter,
they were with Scotty Barnes,
and Brandon Ingram was still able to have
successful Scotty Barnes and RJ Barrett,
and he made a quick, so I think it's something
about being the best player that can give your franchise
the comfort of going out and getting different type
of players without feeling like you can't.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, because I feel the same way,
like it's hard not to love the defense.
I feel like he can take some people kind of like
out of the game, like individually,
just to kind of nitpick.
And again, he's one of those players,
not saying he's a perfect player,
but it's hard to kind of take away from him.
And it goes to a peace point where just like,
you feel so comfortable with him,
kind of playing with anybody,
and that's just because he can fill somebody roles.
I would just like for him to be a little bit more,
I guess, insertive sometimes.
Like, I think that he can take a little bit more
of the control of the game offensively,
just seeing him do that more.
So that's the bad for you?
Yeah, but again, I have to...
Yeah, I mean, I don't know who all Derek has,
we're talking about an all-sorry hit.
Yeah, so like he obviously, you know,
but if we had to pick a bat,
I think that his handle is good,
but I think in order for him to be like a
cranial, all NBA guy, his handle has to get better.
Again, we talk a nitpicking,
that's like the biggest nitpick you can have,
because he said, what, six, seven to six, eight,
power four, like you don't expect him to have a handle,
like, you know, Alan Iverson or Carrie Irvin,
but I think that part of his game
could definitely get fleshed out a little bit more,
and that'll make him better on the offence side
of the ball and the half-core,
if he was just, you know, a little less loose with the ball.
Yeah.
Next, have you guys Brandon Miller?
Be Mills, I love that there's no shot
that is too difficult for Brett Abel.
And sometimes that could be a negative, right?
There's some players in league that you say the same thing
and you're looking at it's like, oh my God,
he shoots this percentage.
But Brandon Miller is one of those guys
that can take a tough, really tough shot,
but like you have the confidence
that it's gonna go in regardless or shout out to Be Mills.
Only bad thing was prior to this year,
or I guess the early part of this year too,
is just injured.
Just wanted to see him be healthy.
I love Brandon Miller's game.
I'm happy to see the success that he's been able
to have with the Hornets.
I was a big advocate of them drafting him and not scoop.
Yeah.
And so to see him fit in with his team so beautifully
makes me happy.
And I believe outside of Victor Memyama,
he was, I was a little biased,
but he was my favorite prospect
just cause he played for Nate Oldt at Alabama.
And then when we had him on our show,
and he thought it was Paul George's goal.
I'm like, oh, look at my boy.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
I think as youth, as far as like a lot of the guys
come in super thin framed,
I don't think he needs to bulk up like Yannis obviously,
but just like a little extra muscle
would help him get past offenders a little bit easier.
I think to add on to that too,
I was just looking at it.
He's such a good score.
I think he's got to kind of find an act
to get to the line a little bit more.
It's only average in like three and a half to four free throws.
He shoots 90%.
So you would like him to get more.
I think if he adds the muscle,
you get to the rim a little bit more.
And again, you have some,
you have so many good shooters,
like a Lamello and a con to be able to get to the rim,
it kind of just build on the offense
and just build on how like teams just have to guard everything.
Him getting to the rim would be a lot.
It would help him.
Now, if he double his free throws,
I'm gonna be calling him a foul baiter there.
Hey, I'm gonna be calling people that man.
Where you, you got to earn them free throws.
It was a time in my, in my basketball career,
where I was trying to get to the line every time
I was trying to drive to the rim.
I've seen starfish on the court before.
Yeah, it didn't work out too well for me.
With the winning, the Hornets are experiencing too.
I would love to see him take on being a two-way,
like really followed Paul George footsteps.
I'm saying those teams best player.
Yeah, that would be, yeah, that would be nice.
It would just help their course so much if he could.
Yeah.
Because some of them games,
you're like, oh, this is their assignment.
And they've been doing good, obviously.
They've been there.
But yeah, if he was able to step up and do that,
my goodness.
Denny Avdia.
Denny is so stiff.
I think he's the first person I started off with the negative.
He's such a stiff ball player, man.
And I don't know how to explain it other than when you just watch
everything is so straight line and it's effective
to an extent in the 82 game.
See, I think we had the conversation like,
how does this look in the postseason or whatever,
but he's a very stiff player.
Yeah.
I feel like I'm going to go to a bad two,
but it's like, I want to see,
because he's had such a really good season,
I do think that like when the team is fully healthy,
I don't know if he'll be the number one featured guy.
So I just, uh-huh.
So I just want to kind of see how he's able to adjust his game
back into more of like, maybe I'm the second,
maybe I'm the third,
and still be just as impactful.
We all know he can kind of like,
he came up doing all the little things and stuff like that.
So I'm going to see how you kind of adjusted the role back
when this team is really fully healthy.
The good is getting to the foul line,
whether they like it or not,
easy, easy points on every possession.
This is good. He's, I mean,
that's part of his straight line.
Yeah, yeah, go straight through his defender.
Yep, I think the other good is just,
he was able to run point guard for the team for a lot.
I mean, it's good.
Jew holiday mids time,
they just had a lot of people mids time.
He was the guy that kind of ran the offense.
I'm talking about score the ball, pass the ball,
they set the defense like he was doing a lot for that.
Stop talking to the roughs.
Yeah, um, if he said no.
Next up, guys, Evan Mowbley,
Emo, the good is obviously, um,
he's not in that system conversation just yet,
but he's still one of the premier defensive guys in the NBA.
Um, so that's always going to be a good.
And I think the bad is the opposite side, right?
Not that it's, it's not bad in what it is.
It's bad in our expectations as far as like,
we hope that he one day would be a 20 point per game score.
And that's not really part of his game a year,
what five of his career or so.
Um, and some of that has to do with the aggression.
Some of that has to do with him, you know,
getting switches and not maximizing them
when he has a smaller defender.
Um, and some of his just can't him like floating
is the way I would describe him offensively a lot of the times.
Just floating while the other guys do a lot of the heavy lifting.
I think Evan Mowbley is a good player.
I think there's a lot to like and love.
Uh, I think regardless of whatever he's going to do,
he has to show up in the playoffs.
And I'm not here to say he doesn't show up,
but there's been some injuries.
There's been a lack of success for the Cavalier team
as a whole.
And I think if they were able to get over a home,
a lot of this stuff wouldn't matter.
Yeah.
Regardless of how aggressive he is,
how many points he scores per game.
If he, if they, if he just was him and it worked,
um, I think we were just accepted and he would be a champion
or in the finals or whatever.
But I think because they have expectations,
they haven't been able to meet him.
Some serious, he was in some serious.
He's what he wasn't in.
Sometimes like KB said, he's floating.
He's been defensive player of the year.
The themes he's on are pretty stacked.
Yeah.
I mean, this is a time to do it because
before you know it, he's going to be in a position
where he is going to have to, you know what I mean,
carry a burden if this team can win
that I don't know what other teams he's going to be on
that's going to have these type of opportunities.
So Milwaukee.
I think it really comes down to the aggression
against the bigger front courts, like the, like the pistons.
Sometimes it could be the spurs and that's on,
like that's a long time in the playoffs
where you get to the spurs.
But it's the aggression against the bigger front courts
where you can kind of see him.
Hey, I might take six threes this game
because they clogging up that pain.
And I think from every night basis,
it's just so much easier for Evan
mobility kind of dominate in the pain
or near the restricted area.
Sometimes teams can hold them out from that.
And for a guy that's the, you know,
second to third best player, you got to be there every night.
It's just the best teams do it.
It's a nightly basis where I can depend on you
to have your 15 to 20 points.
Yeah, they got a lot right.
I mean, when they first started the James Harden,
I was like, oh my goodness.
And now that school down completely.
Yeah, where it's like, they might still just be
the fourth best team in the conference still.
And obviously, Jared Allen has been in
and out and the lineup over the last couple of weeks or so.
But yeah, that first week, I was like, oh, man,
I'm close to picking them to win the East.
No, I'm not, no, I'm not there.
You know, that changed real fast.
You should see that because JT came back.
That does matter.
That's all that's all we need.
He changed his mind.
He kind of looked on stop, not on stop.
They look great.
All right, when we come back,
we got more numbers on the board.
All right, so back with the good and the bad.
Paolo Bank Hero.
The good is, there's a lot of good.
All these plays have a lot of good.
I don't feel like we have to purpose it.
But my favorite thing about Paolo is the self-awareness
that we talked about last week.
Talk about how you watched a bunch of film.
He looked in the mirror and now he's ready to adjust.
The bad is a lot of them long middies still not going there.
And it's just like, it's like really, really bad.
And a tough shot taker,
but in order to be a tough shot taker,
you also got to match that with a tough shot maker.
And right now he's one and not the other.
But I think it could be both.
You know, it's just.
He hasn't been shooting ball better.
He's been very good the last month and a half.
Yeah, I completely agree.
He has done a lot, you know, to kind of,
I feel like change the narrative
that's, or the discourse around him this season,
especially kind of when they did hit their stride.
I think what he's got to improve on is
taking some of those tough shots
and just kind of finding ways to get the easy ones,
being able to move it or run in transition,
being able to cut without the ball.
I know it's kind of hard to change your whole play style love,
but he's such a physical dude
that he's kind of like a walk and mismatch.
And I think that anytime you're kind of cutting,
you're just creating disadvantages or advantages for your team.
The reason I really like the quote is
because some people are stubborn to a fault.
I feel like a good level of stubbornness,
especially in a professional like this
is very important for an NBA player,
but for him to not just settle for like,
well, this is who I am.
It's, I think it says wonders about a 24-year-old.
It's too many players that have kind of said that
and I don't think he's falling out the lead here.
And I'm like, that's, people in that mindset
has kind of saved careers where you see people
are dwindling down and you don't know what their value is
and they kind of changed their whole mindset and all of a sudden,
hey, I get to do 15 million a year.
I get to do, I want that dude on my team.
So it's always just kind of like knowing, again,
just being self-aware.
Yeah. When I watch him, it's just like,
why does everything look so tough?
Like, I think it's part of the offensive system
and how the life they're off.
It's like, why is he always just running
and picking role, I saw him.
There's no like fluidity to it.
It's just like, yes, I pick a role with everything.
The role man can't get open because they just tagging them
because the shooter in the corner can't shoot
and for him to be the role man a lot more.
I would love it to work.
Do need more like the creators,
like you would need Desmond Bain to be able to run it.
Obviously, you could see like Anthony,
but it's just the guards kind of running it.
You need them to be able to shoot the ball.
I feel like you have somebody that can't shoot
and he's running a bigger role,
kind of defeats the purpose,
especially if the guy's rolling.
But him as a roller, I think,
would be able to just open up because again,
you don't have everybody trying to gap up on you,
but if you catch it on the roll, it's either I'm scoring
or I'm smart enough to make the right pass on the roll.
Also love that he gets to the foul line, a great amount.
Love that for him.
I love that he show up, man.
In those big moments, Pat Logon beat here.
I never forget his first playoff.
He was going toe to toe with Donnie.
Donnie even Mitchell.
Pat Logon do his part.
What was the, who did they lose to when they second playoff thing?
That was a self-takes or is that last year?
That makes sense to me.
There was a four, five matchup.
I think the self-takes were the one seat that year.
And then one of those games,
Franz Wagner went like one of something.
Yeah, he ended the series like ridiculously bad
that last close out game.
Next year, we got this VJ edge call.
Ooh, it's so early to even pick up home like this one.
He sees early, so he's working.
And it's his support.
He's supporting jazz hands, but like his OGs.
You know what his bad is?
He never seen a double seat before.
No, that's the, yeah, I don't have anything bad.
It's so early.
Let's go chat home.
Okay, yeah, I like that one.
I think that my favorite thing about chat home grind
is that though he gonna get called a few different times,
he challenges everything at the rim.
Absolutely.
Like his, his block numbers don't show
that he is the most effective rim protector
in basketball right now.
Like even better than when we statistically speaking at least.
Obviously, we pick and win be defensively over chat,
but like statistically is the best.
My least favorite thing is, yeah,
we really had that conversation last week about,
this is his first 20 point game in two months.
Like, what the home grind on this team,
with this, this roster with this MVP?
It's like, I'm just going to jump between the players
that I always see is like, man,
he got 15 in the first quarter ends with 20.
Like, I would love for him to have that offensive consistency.
It's kind of, Evan Mobley and Jason were like,
we keep one and more offensively, one and more offensively.
And it's like occasionally he'll do it,
but we can't, we can't count for chat.
I always wanted to point a chat though,
because chat I think is a better offensive player.
For sure.
His offense looks sometimes effortless.
And I just like his skill set.
So I always be one and more from chat.
He could, he could put it on the floor
and attack a pole with a three.
You could do it.
He could do it.
He gets to the mid-range turn around.
Yeah, so.
I remember early in his career,
he did that one mid-range turn around on the right wing
and somebody paired it with like Kevin DeRoe, right?
He's doing the exact same thing as a rookie.
He was like, oh snap.
A rookie, Kevin DeRoe, that's the best offensive player.
Oh my goodness.
That's ridiculous.
Next guy we got is...
Gotta be a last guy, right?
Yeah, a trade Murphy.
Kyle Lee, Derek.
How much trade Murphy do you think we've watched this season?
I like that trade Murphy can score.
He scores a ball really well.
I think he can score in a lot of different ways.
But I do, the bad is that he's just plays for a team
that I think doesn't utilize it.
It would look a lot better on a playout team
than what I would say.
Maybe next year for them.
Maybe next year.
Don't do more, it might have been right.
Another great episode, a number zone, the bore from Mike,
from P, from Demailer, from Kenny Beach,
and we see y'all next time.
Peace.
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