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When it comes to the Lakers' continuity impacts everything from the MVP race to the playoffs,
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even the off season will explain next.
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In this episode today, a reminder will be back after Tuesday night's game against the
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Cavs, excited to see the Lakers play a good competition again as they try to nail down
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a top three seed in the West, but so Monday's show Andy was all about the MVP race and like
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where Luca fits in and how that discussion is going and whether or not Luca's sort of
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being treated fairly and all that other stuff.
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One of the interesting nuggets that didn't make it into that show, I came from our friend
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Isdak Franco, who has covered Luca in particular for a very long time, but writes fantastic stuff
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about the Lakers and the NBA on his sub-stack, which I highly recommend everybody, everybody
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subscribed to, but he had an interesting point about Luca's candidacy, which will make
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now, but it really is relevant in other ways too and about continuity and how it fits
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into the other candidates and Isdak's point was compared to Jalen Brown, to Wembee, to
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Yokech, to Shay, nobody is playing with a bunch of strangers more than Luca on a roster
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with fewer guys who have spent time together than Luca.
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His point was that should give you maybe a more favorable idea of what Luca and the Lakers
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are doing this year makes it a little bit more impressive, but it also kind of frames where
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the franchise is and so it was a really interesting point that he was making both little
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picture and as we're going to get into big picture.
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Yeah, it's not surprising, Isdak's a really smart guy, he's been on the show before, we
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have recommended his coverage to our viewers and to our listeners all the time, you definitely
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should check him out.
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As far as the framing for MVP and even if you go through his piece on this, he's not
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looking to necessarily make the case for Luca over everybody else.
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He said at the end of it, like ultimately I think there's great cases to be made for
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really the top four guys, Luca, Wembee, SGA and Yokech, I think are the consensus top four
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with Jalen Brown gaining some steam, but I would be surprised if he finished at the end
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of the day ahead of those four.
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The framing device of Contnuit I think is interesting and I hadn't thought of it that way specifically
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in terms of framing what Luca is doing or the season, like if nothing else, it speaks
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to his ability on the fly to make offense work in a lot of ways with a wide variety of
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revolving characters in and out of the lineup.
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It has not always been smooth, I mean we've talked about the grand majority of this season,
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the offense was not functioning to nearly the degree that people expected beyond just
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But Luca can paper over a lot of problems just from his own offensive dominance.
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I don't necessarily think the Spurs have a ton more continuity.
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OK, see Denver and to whatever degree you consider Jalen Brown a key figure in this race.
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Those three teams, the continuity is off the charts and it is a reason that all three
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of those teams have been in the finals recently, have won championships recently and seem
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to currently be in that mix over the last say five years.
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It's because they keep working together and they have the luxury of getting better together
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and the central figures have been together longer and there's no question of the five players
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Luca is the most disadvantaged, he's the one that's had to work the most with the least
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in terms of just pure knowledge of each other.
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He is, I think in a lot of ways the closest thing we've seen to staff in terms of just the
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pure bending of a defense because Luca can do so much scoring, shooting and playmaking
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He really does become somebody that can completely change the geometry of how you look to defend
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any team that is on.
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Yeah, it's an, again, we're not looking to get into another MVP debate with your discussion.
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We did that for Monday's short show, but it is, it's an interesting, if nothing else,
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and smart way to talk about just all of the things Luca does and just how much he means
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So after I want to get into what this means, not just for the MVP candidacy because it's
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another thing to think about, another way to frame the very difficult separating of these
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players in terms of what's your preference in this and that, whatever.
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The playoffs are coming up and this kind of continuity is relevant to that, especially
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in ways that go beyond that top seven season long thing to just who's in the lineup for
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For example, with Denver, guys like Christian Brown and are back and he's not in that group,
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but Aaron Gordon, not in that group of top seven minutes guys because they've been injured
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for so much of the year.
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Similarly, they'll be back in the playoffs.
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So the calculus changes for what continuity looks like and what it means and how it impacts
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Doesn't just impact the series though, it ought to impact what the Lakers, how they approach
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the offseason as well.
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So we'll talk continuity when we get back.
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Okay, so in the context, you know, it is talk was writing, you know, MVP is a season long
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So who plays the most minutes, who are your top seven top eight minutes, you know, minutes
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guys for the season is relevant because it's, it's a good framing for who's been around
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for most of the season.
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When you get to the playoffs, continuity looks different.
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You know, Jalen Williams, for example, hasn't isn't among the top seven and minutes havers
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for the Oklahoma City Thunder, but it certainly matters when he's back and the continuity that
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they've developed, you know, over a title winning season and beyond becomes more relevant
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And so, you know, we mentioned Aaron Gordon, we mentioned, you know, Christian Brown and
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guys like that with the the nuggets who are back and don't have anything to do with
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Yokech's MVP candidacy and things like that, but we'll have an impact on the playoffs.
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The Lakers go into the post season, assuming everybody is healthy, definitely on the short
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end of the stick when it comes to time together, series together, all these, all of these
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They do have at least, you know, two supercomputers and LeBron and Luca and a pretty intelligent
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player as well and Austin Reeves, guys who can tear it out, but it's not like the other
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teams are filled with dummies.
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So the question becomes like, how much do other teams have an advantage over the Lakers
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in the playoffs when it's all said and done?
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I mean, I'm not saying it's insurmountable like that it's that it's an advantage that
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the Lakers can't overcome.
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I mean, they've beaten Denver this year, two out of three games, despite lacking continuity.
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They've beaten a lot of teams this season that have had more time together, but you know,
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for example, when you mentioned Christian Brown and Aaron Gordon not being in the top seven
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for minutes this year for Denver, I'll be honest, I don't care because they've had so much
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time with, right, group, assuming they're healthy to me, that's a relevant, like Jason
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It's relevant for the MVP conversation.
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It's irrelevant for the playoffs.
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It doesn't matter when it comes to the playoffs because these guys have that time together.
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So, you know, that, you know, Jalen Williams wasn't there for Oklahoma City, isn't it
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Yeah, with Jalen Williams, for example, it only matters if he gets enough time between
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when he's returned and the end of the regular season, just to feel comfortable and like back
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in a rhythm, but the continuity is already established.
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So, the Lakers are going to be dealing with an uphill disadvantage compared to pretty much
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all of these other teams other than San Antonio, between the relatively little time they've
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spent together, compared to certainly these other teams and the playoff and experience
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that is its own side thing they're going to have to deal with.
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The Lakers are the most disadvantaged.
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It helps that LeBron and Austin, I think, have a lot of reps together and LeBron, Austin
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and Rui have a lot of reps together, Jackson Hayes.
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It's now in his third season with the Lakers, like every bit that you can look at or fine
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in terms of those reps together can matter a lot.
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That's also why it's so important that they not only landed on a formula that works,
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but they, a big piece of the formula was clarity.
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It was really important that everybody understands exactly what they're going to be doing, but
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they're going to be figuring out a lot more information in real time than I think, okay,
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see will, Denver will, that's just the reality of it.
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The good news for the Lakers is if you're going to have to be led by a guy who has spent
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less time around, your other players has only played one series, and in that series
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only played four games, three and a half, if you really think about how sick Luke probably
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still was after game three, but LeBron is that guy.
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If you have to think of a player who you feel comfortable plugging into a playoff series,
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get the guys who he has never played in the playoffs with, Marcus Smart is another guy
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who feel very comfortable with in that regard.
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That will certainly help, I think, these are all really difficult things to quantify and
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difficult things to figure out exactly how they impact a series, but in a tight playoff
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series, these little shades of advantage or disadvantage can end up making a difference
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where one possession, one miscommunication, one something or other can be the difference
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between winning a game and losing one.
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The last thing I would say just in terms of having to overcome the lack of continuity
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compared to most of these other teams, one big advantage they will have is Luca is as
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good or better as any of the best players on these teams we've discussed at just taking
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I don't think there's anybody in the field that is better than Luca at taking over a
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It may not always be taken over the exact same way, but I don't think there's anybody
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And again, we talked about what Luca has papered over in terms of just his overall talent,
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that's another part of it.
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Yeah, and it's for a team that has thrived on late game execution, that will be tested
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against, in these playoff moments, against teams that have more reps together as a group
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in these types of situations, so that's something to look forward to.
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The other thing we don't get super deep into it yet because we've still got a lot of
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season and hopefully a lot of post season to talk about, but it will also ought to impact
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the way the Lakers look at the off season.
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There is a belief, or at least was, especially before the Lakers started rolling that it
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was going to be pretty much their internal over the roster completely in the off season.
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And flip this thing up upside down, start with almost a brand new batch of guys with almost
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nobody under contract going in next year, nobody they have to have under contract.
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How they approach this off season in terms of adding the players that need to be added
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to really create a long-term foundation around Luca, while also bringing back a team where
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not everybody is wearing name tags for the first six months of the season, introduce
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each other three months of the season, it's an interesting balance and how they look
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at that, what should we bring back to maintain a little continuity, what is available to what's
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worth really turning things over, and then more importantly, the new players that we bring
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in, are they brought in on one year deals, are they brought in on three year deals, are
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they brought in on four year deals, like all of this stuff is really interesting to watch.
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Yeah, I've said many times I still believe they need to start building towards sustainability
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and future forward and they need to be thinking about dedicating resources in years towards
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players that are, if they're worth bringing in at a certain price point, they're worth
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committing to, at a certain price point in years as well.
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I do think it matters, they clearly want to team up Luca and Austin and assuming that
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ends up the case moving forward, you start getting into multiple years of Luca and Austin
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together and when you really start drilling down on, we mentioned OKC Denver and Boston
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as these teams with continuity, it's not just the roster, it's their top two players have
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played together for a long time.
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Jamal Murray and Nikola Yokech have incredible chemistry.
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Shay Gilgis Alexander and Jalen Williams play extremely well off each other.
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It took Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum, it took them I think a couple years as young players
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with some degree of overlap to figure it out, but the time was worth it and they now play
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extremely well off each other too.
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It's extremely important that the continuity includes your top two players, that they
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get those reps together and if nothing else, that seems to be the Lakers' plan short of
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something very unexpected and in terms of just sheer continuity and I think the way to build
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continuity, that is a good thing.
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So we'll see what happens both, obviously the postseason first, but it's just one of these
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things to kind of store away in the memory bank as once the season's over and you head
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into the off season, what exactly is you're trying to build and how.
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So plenty more to come on Tuesday, Lakers playing at home against the Cavaliers, a marquee
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match up for sure without of a Mitchell and James Harden and Evan Mobley and a company
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in town, it should be a really good one with back after the game to break it all down.
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We'll see you then.