How Flock Cameras and AI Are Building a Nationwide Surveillance Network

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1:04show. My name is Ike Skelton, I'm the presiding commissioner of Camden County, Missouri, beautiful Lake of the Ozarks if you've never been this way. I'm doing this just on my own free will, nothing government related, nothing official of that nature. She had me on tomorrow, asked me to come on, I believe it was last week, and we discussed flock cameras. And the fact that I happened to, I believe, and haven't been able to find anything different, that Camden County, Missouri was the first county or the first political subdivision, maybe in the nation, that had prohibited flock cameras. We did this back in December of 23, really. And then January of 24, we changed our ordinance to make sure that it was a little more white sweeping. I didn't like the narrow one. I wanted to, we haven't happened to have a flock camera that was installed by the Missouri

2:07Department of Public Safety through their request to our sheriff's department. And when I found out about it, we had a big meeting, had flock actually participated by Zoom, and we had the sheriff there, and a lot of other law enforcement that, of course, advocated for these things. And we had a big full room of citizens just from the county that were advocating against flock cameras. And this was back before it was popular to be against flock cameras. So I think that we were doing something very special and very new and kind of exciting here in Camden County. As a matter of fact, Camden County, Missouri, as far as Missouri goes, has been a leader in a lot of different things. When the Missouri Legislature was contemplating what we call a second Amendment Preservation Act, Camden County led in the counties.

3:09By being the first county that adopted an ordinance that created Camden County as a second Amendment Preservation Sanctuary County. So we kind of went online with these leftists that were trying to become, you know, the immigration sanctuary cities for immigrants, which you and I both know that immigration is a federal function in the United States Constitution. And they are supposed to deal with immigration and enforce our borders and our immigration laws. So they have a sanctuary city that actually restricts a federal government. Constitutionally recognized federal government activity is a little bit over the top. I believe a lot of us, the viewers to this show tomorrow show what agree with that. I hope. And maybe some others around the country would as well.

4:10A lot of Republicans, a lot of conservatives think that way. And of course, we know the left doesn't think that way. We kind of got to figure that if the cities and or states could defy the Constitution by creating these sanctuary cities that would help and embrace illegal immigrants, well then why couldn't Camden County become a sanctuary city for something that actually is a protected right in the Constitution? So instead of defying the Constitution by becoming a sanctuary city to protect illegals, we became a sanctuary city to protect an actual right that you have. And that goes along with the philosophy that I have and I spoke with that tomorrow last when I was on with her that I believe every elected official that takes an oath to the

5:10United States Constitution should absolutely uphold that oath at every level. Even the lowest, I'm say low, but even the smallest municipality or in the state of Missouri, we have villages and those can be pretty small and they will have a board, usually of five members, five to seven. And they get to make us some rules about their own municipalities, but they also take an oath to the Constitution. Like anybody that takes an oath to the Constitution, that is their first duty is to uphold and defend the Constitution. And when you uphold and defend the Constitution, what you're really doing is defending the rights and the liberties of your citizens that you have been given the duty to do the business for. And obviously as a County Commissioner, my duties are very wide range, we have to deal with

6:12the road bridge department, health department, planning zoning and some other things within our county. So we do those jobs and all of the buildings and the grounds maintain those things, insurance for employees and other functions of just having the government open. But again, our very first responsibility is to the Constitution. So and again, as I said, by defending your citizens' civil rights, you are upholding the Constitution in its basic form. So Camden County became a Second Amendment Preservation or Sanctuary County. So to know that if you have issues, you want to come to Camden County and be free to carry firearms, as our Constitution says, even our Constitution here in Missouri. It's pretty second amendment friendly for sure.

7:12I was honored to have a part of doing that. But so we have the Second Amendment Preservation Act. And in doing all of those things here in Camden County, we also led with prohibiting flock cameras. So that's where I kind of the big round about here to get back to it, that Camden County Missouri has been leaders in these fields within the state of Missouri and within the country. And I tell you that not to, I mean, I'm honored to be part of the commission and the administration that did this. But I kind of bring it up as I did last time when I was all at tomorrow to just also kind of prove that you at your various counties, municipalities around the country, if you look at your state's Constitution, find out where it is that you can use your extra citizen property and go do it. Now, we don't have to wait for our states to move in a lot of cases.

8:14We don't have to definitely don't have to wait for the federal government to move. We should be moving on our own because we are the dog. The government is the tail. So we should be lagging that tail of our own volition and honoring our rights, or excuse me, honoring our oaths to the Constitution and protecting our citizen trees. And one way we've done that, I believe, in Camden County is by prohibiting flock, excuse me, automatic license plate readers. Flock happens to be the big guys on the block right now. And an awful lot of times, if you can take down the big boys, then the other individuals will kind of follow along. So in getting prepared to do this show, I actually just did a presentation last night in a county here in Missouri to let folks know a little bit more about flock. We've got some very informed people here in Missouri. They know what's going on in some of these counties.

9:14And it's starting to become a big deal here in the state of Missouri. I don't know about your state. I know it's becoming a bigger deal around the country. So I like to stay on top of it. I was honored that Camden County was first among it. But as I was preparing for this show, I also wanted to look into where and what's happening right now because there's so much information about what's happening with flock. And now that so many other entities are becoming involved in it, we're now getting more and more information from across the country on how those particular states act and how your particular state may or may not have authorized flock camels. I know in Illinois for sure, as one that we'll talk about, and then Florida for certain, have both allowed for the use and deployment of these technologies, this automatic license plate readers.

10:15And they have both put some, I'm getting tired of using the term guard rail. So I'm going to put constituent protections. That's what I'm going to start calling. So they put some so-called citizen protections in these bills and in their enabling laws in Illinois and Florida. And if you've been paying any attention to Florida, Governor Ron DeSantis has now come along and said, well, we need to do away with these things, start covering them up and then taking them down. What I'm kind of fascinated about is I'm wonder if he really is aware that their state legislature has signed these things into law. And I wonder what Governor actually signed flock cameras into law. Was it Governor DeSantis? I haven't looked at that deep Florida is not my state. I just see what's happening on the national news. And I found it very interesting that the governor through some executive order was going to override his state's legislature.

11:17So we'll see how that plays out in the end. I'd imagine it was going to be more of that story as it comes along. Aaron Missouri, however, there has been no enabling language allowing for the placement of automatic license plate readers along our highways at all. And a long story to be a little bit shorter. This is part of why our commission created this ordinance and why we wanted to try to enforce this ordinance because we believed, I believe, that because there is no enabling language that allows the state to have these, the county should be able to come along with regulations to regulate them because there is no other authority for them to exist. Now the state of Missouri's Department of Transportation can certainly put cameras up along the highways for whatever purposes they need as far as traffic control is concerned,

12:22traffic monitoring and traffic patterns. It's not there to do any kind of law enforcement investigation whatsoever. So how the Missouri Department of Public Safety has been able to put them on our highways and maybe in your state as well, does your state have enabling language allowing for these automatic license plate readers and if it doesn't, then I would encourage your lawmakers to make prohibitive legislation to get them out of your state or at a bare minimum, go to your local municipalities and your local county sheriff and see if maybe you can't get them taken out in some capacity that way. So there are things that can be done. We're going to have to go to a break here in just a little bit. When we come back from that break, I did some interesting looking around this morning. There are a couple of places that you can find a lot of information about automatic license plate readers. 404 media is checking these things and the electronic freedom foundation are also looking to those

13:28very deeply. Now I know when you go look at these two websites, you're going to find out that they're a little bit on the bluer side of the scale than maybe a lot of us are watching this show. But to me, that's part of that left-right paradigm that I'm personally getting tired of. There are things that we as Americans can agree with across this country whether it be Democrat, whether it be Republican or what have you. When we get back, we're going to get into this a little bit deeper. I found out how the federal government is using automatic license plate readers and through the border patrol. It's not what you think. I'm hoping that when we reveal some of this information that you're going to be maybe just about as appalled by it as I am. Again my name is Ike Skelton. I'm sitting in for tomorrow's Scott on the World View Network.

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15:32Three volumes now on preorder at worldviewstore.com. Hi there, Ike Skelton back with you on the tomorrow's Scott show. Thank you for being with us. I appreciate you coming back. We're going to dig a little bit deeper into this now. And I find an email I came across. Like a lot of you, I get information just sent to me. And requesting stuff, and we find out. And this is from, let's see, this is from 404 media. You can check them out. It says border patrol is running secretive, predictive policing units that analyze Americans financial activity and other data. Let feed that into then feed that intelligence into local police who pull people over or are not suspected of any specific crime, which the government thinks may be worth searching. Now, you ask yourself what do you mean by financial activity?

16:34If you remember correctly, the government and others have been talking about how through credit cards and debit cards, they would be able to track various things that you do. And they would be able to track, let's say, ammunition purchases. Let's say gun purchases. Let's say purchases just for proper food. To be able to take care of yourself, who knows what any of those folks might be concerned with. So, this kind of feeds into that a little bit because we wondered with a digital currency, we don't ever allow a digital currency. We never truly wanted a digital currency to America. We want to keep cash, right? We always want to keep cash. Because these things, this electronic world that we are living in and helping kind of facilitate this cage that we're building around ourselves, they're going to start using financial data against us and they will start using our patterns against us.

17:39And I think that's an awful lot. Not to get into data centers too much right now. But I believe that is a lot of where this stuff is coming from. They need some place to store all of this information and be able to run their artificial algorithms, artificial intelligence algorithms and other processes that they're going to be able to use to inventory, monitor and control everything that we wind up doing here in America. For a long time before I got into elective office, I worked on the United Nations Agenda 21, Agenda 2030 and of course, there's Agenda 2050. We're getting really close to their Agenda 2030. I don't think they've met the goals that they're looking for, but they're getting them off a lot closer to them and they're going to continue to strive toward those goals as they can. I know here in Missouri and this is going to affect states across the country, the Iran's America Corridor is being talked about here in Missouri.

18:43It's going to be an area that would go across the country, extensively and you'll be able to have high speed rail maybe through there, particular traffic patterns through there. They're actually talking about being able to pump water, electricity and other utilities along this corridor. And that sounds kind of okay if we're all just tapping off of this and we're all having a little bit of it. But it's supposed to be, I know in our area, they're talking about a 50 mile wide corridor. Well, during that 50 miles, you might not be able to go. If any of you are familiar with the biodiversity map that came out in the early 90s, right around the time, the United Nations met in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil for what is commonly known for us as a United Nations agenda 21, where that was born. They talk about these processes. They talk about in the biodiversity map, they talk about these corridors and they talk

19:49about corridors of connectivity. And those are going to be corridors that are from one city space to the next city space. And that is why it's not that big of a deal that electric vehicles can only get so much of a charge because there's going to be these corridors of connectivity. And along that connectivity, there will be places that you'll be able to spend the night charge your electric vehicle and things of that nature. So they're building a little, they're building their own little world that they want to try to put us in instead of Americans being free as they want to be free. So one of the tools that most of you probably know of that they're using very, very heavily this day and age is the automatic license plate reader. And I'll tell you, the automatic license plate reader is the very basics of every type of, oh, certainly of every surveillance system we have here in America now when it comes

20:50to the government for the most part, do they have just stand-alone cameras and buildings and what not? And what we're supposed to do, but the automatic license plate reader is the basis of any type of control and or ticketing or finding a base because without having your license plate, how are they going to know where to send the bill? How are they going to know who's door to come knock on if we're looking for you a little bit later on? How are we going to know who to charge for speeding down the road at a particular time a day? Or if you go into New York City right now, this day and age, if you go into New York City when it's heavily congested, how are they going to know who to charge the extra money for being there? And that's what the license plate reader is all about. That's what gives them the information to be able to do that and that is what gets a bill into your mail. So that is going to be the base of every bit of surveillance, especially when it comes

21:54to vehicles, movement around the country, and other techniques that the government is going to want to use for modification behavior. And that's the, or excuse me, behavior modification. That's exactly what they want to do. They want to change your behavior. And it is absolutely well known that the more and more cameras that we wind up putting into our lives, the more and more surveillance that we have, the more and more data that is out there, the more people start to change how they do things, you become a little bit less of who you actually are and start becoming more of a state-approved citizen. Maybe? Can I go robot? People are only going to do the very right thing as the government sees fit to call the right thing. What point of time are they going to come knock on your door because you went into a

22:58neighborhood that you weren't supposed to. Well, but they didn't want you going to. We know that in Europe right now, if you are driving a vehicle that is older because of emission controls, then what is allowed in a particular area, you drive into that area, the license plate reader not only is going to be able to know where to send the mail, but the computer software is going to know that the vehicle you're driving is too old to be in that area. And then they're going to send you that ticket in the mail. Now, they'll let you go on about driving that car. So what is the true goal here? This behavior modification, they're definitely going to do that through revenue generation. So if, and I bring this up, is again, if we don't kind of knit this right now and try to dismantle the surveillance state that they, the government has already been put in place,

23:58we're not going to be in a very good spot in the next five years or less. The network is being built. It's been built for a long time. Border patrol and other federal government agencies have been using it for various reasons, primarily along the border for a long time. They've tried to hide it, nobody knew about it. The cameras are not outhanging on a pole like they probably are in your community and how they certainly are here in Camden County, Missouri. But the camera is there nonetheless. The surveillance is there nonetheless and the control will eventually come as they can put it in place. So at 404 Media picked up on, I want to get into a little bit here. This is a article that was written by Byron Tao and, well, I'm going to mess up this name, Nancy Burke of the Associated Press.

24:59So let's get into this a little bit and see what they've discovered and what they have to say and see what you think about it. Since the US Border Patrol is, this was done, wow, this was done November 20 of 2025. I didn't know the story was out there. I apologize, I should have known this already as much research as I've done, but there's more and more and more out there and it just keeps getting deeper and deeper. The US Border Patrol is monitoring millions of American drivers nationwide in a secretive program to identify and detain people who has traveled, patterns, it deems, it deems, suspicious. The predictive intelligence program has resulted in people being stopped, searched and in some cases arrested. A network of cameras scans and records, vehicle license plate information and an algorithm, flags vehicles deemed suspicious based on where they came from, where they were going and which route they took.

26:01And it says federal agents in turn may then flag local law enforcement. Now that's a problem I've had with this predictive policing or you might want to call the minority records similar to what that kind of show did, but it's maybe not quite as intrusive, not just as concerning. Law enforcement now, and you can see this tool here, this is probably one of the more important tools for them to be able to use against us in this regard. Now as you can see, they're figuring out where you've been, where you're going to go and how you're going to get there. Why is that a big deal? Well, if you came from one person's house and you go through a bunch of back roads and around things to get to another person's house, maybe they figure that you're doing something you shouldn't be doing because you didn't go the straight and narrow path. But they haven't considered that maybe you're just going to go visit a friend.

27:04But it was a nice beautiful day out, so you took a little bit of a longer drive. Maybe you like to go to the back roads. Maybe there was a friend along the way that you wanted to check out and say hello to for a minute. Maybe you're doing something wrong. Maybe you weren't. But should we really have our law enforcement now starting to track everybody and everything just to see if you might be doing something wrong? I think it's a little bit of step beyond. I think that the government is starting to get to a point where they are doing this so much and it's such an egregious manner that it's going to be very, very difficult for them to hide it anymore. As a matter of fact, it is becoming more and more prevalent. People are finding out more and more of what these cameras do. I think the more that we find out about these, the less happy we're going to be. We're going to take a quick break and we get back. I'm going to get back into this article a little bit by the Associated Press and find out a few of the actual cases that they've discovered of people that have done wrong

28:07and how you might think about those and how you can use that in your own municipalities to help prohibit these cameras and help dismantle the surveillance network that the government has put in place. Ike Skeleton here will be right back with Tamara Scott's show after these messages. There's a list you keep without meaning to. Things you used to do and stopped. Not because you decided to, it just got longer. A joint is collagen too. The same matrix as your skin, under more load. Two things wear it down. Time and inflammation. Bella Grace Elixir works on both. 5,500 milligrams of collagen peptides, 150 of Amazonian cats claw. Bella Grace publishes the research behind that ingredient, eight papers, two human clinical

29:09trials, most of them by the scientists who did the original work. For joint health, a healthy inflammation response and aging muscle. One gel packet once a day. The list doesn't have to keep growing. Bella Grace Elixir at MelissahouseBG.com. Show, thank you for being here. World view network. We were talking about flock, automatic license plate readers, automatic license plate readers in general again. Floc is kind of the big guy on the block. So that's why they're in the news and they're going to be mentioned probably more than palin tear even or accent or Motorola has a camera and I think others do as well. Got into this article by the associate of press talking about how the border patrol is expanding their network of cameras around the country, automatic license plate readers.

30:13They've been doing it for a long time. Matter of fact, this article says that they've been doing it for some decade now. It says once limited to policing the nation's boundaries, the border patrol has built a surveillance system stretching into the country's interior that can monitor ordinary Americans daily actions and connections for anomalies instead of simply targeting wanted individual suspects. Started about a decade ago to fight illegal border related activities and the trafficking of both drugs and people, it has expanded over the past five years. Some of the things I'm going to talk about as we go forward is going to sound a little bit disparaging on law enforcement. I don't mean it to be that way. I support law enforcement. I support our local chairs. I support our local police helping to get the bad guys off the street, murderers, rapists, kidnappers, bank robbers, general robbers and just general thieves.

31:15I'm fine with... Okay, the drug laws that we have in this country aren't working. We're not going to get into that. It's not for this topic, not for this subject. But an awful lot of things that law enforcement does has been predicated on the alleged war on drugs. A lot of things that law enforcement has done through the courts or what has been elevated through the courts, various alleged Fourth Amendment violations and other violations. The court has really helped erode the Fourth Amendment in my opinion, where it almost is meaningless. No search or no knock warrants, things of this nature. So the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution, which provides for us to be secure in our persons or papers or facts and our things and our being, has really come under attack for several years now, again, under the guise of the alleged war on drugs.

32:19Again, I'm not going to get into this war on drugs and talk about this episode. Maybe if I get the opportunity to guest host again, I would do that. But the fact is that they're using those conditions, American conditions, to be able to justify the use of programs and automatic license plate readers tools that are further eroding and taking away our constitutional protections. So I think it's important that we can't just look at one little part of it. We have to look at the totality. And when they bring these excuses together, this is what helps get this type of a surveillance network together. Because it goes on here to say it says the border patrol has recently grown even more powerful through collaborations with other agencies, drawing information from license plate

33:21readers nationwide, run by the Drug Enforcement Administration, private companies, and increasingly, local law enforcement programs funded through federal grants. So yes, in about 2021-2022, federal grants for these cameras went wide open. Who was in office during that time? It was a Joe Biden administration. I'm not saying this is the first time they came around. I'm saying this is what it heavily expanded. And more and more grant money was available for local agencies to get this type of technology. And you know, Eisenhower warned us a long time ago about the military industrial complex. And I think he warned us of that for a lot of different reasons. Not only would we potentially get into more conflicts because let's face it, you can only

34:23build so many bombs until you've got enough of them that you shut down that factory. But if you continue to use those bombs, the most factories have to continue to make them. And therefore you keep jobs. And you have businesses and so forth that continue to make money. And your loved ones wind up in this military one nature another and sent over to wars that we didn't want to have. And only the politicians are participating. Right? So Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex as we should be concerned about them. But what we haven't been warned about and maybe we should be more warned about. And that is the law enforcement industrial complex. There are continued agencies, groups, companies that are constantly trying to find out new ways to do surveillance, to find you, to track you, to look into what you're doing all of the times

35:25of the day, to serve value, the biggest thing is surveillance. And my friend, I know a lot of the argument is if you're not doing anything wrong or if you have one of these cell phones, they've got all your information. Well, maybe they do have a little bit of information. But why in the world are we going to continue to give them more? And when I read in this and says that it's, you know, they're now becoming more powerful. It's the words here by teaming up with the drug enforcement administration again. You might come back and say, well, hey, they're finding these big drug traffickers. And yeah, they certainly do from time to time. Have you seen the use of drugs in America go down over the last, I don't know what 40 years that we've been engaged in this alleged war on drugs? I haven't seen it go down. Statistics, I don't believe it's gone down. We know that crime is nearly as high right now as it used to be. Crime is down a little bit. It's a little safer to be in

36:25America. I don't think it's because of license plate readers so much. I think there's a lot of reasons. It could be a part of it. But if you've seen those things change much. If you haven't seen them thing, seen them change much, maybe you should ask the reason should we continue to do this. Ask the question, should we keep doing this? Because the more and more we do, the more and more our rights are eroded for everybody. And now they have built this system that you might say is a good thing to help catch the bad guys, especially bringing drugs in across the border. But again, how long does it take to where we go from what seems to be good getting turned into something that lines up being very, very bad and violating our constitution rights? Well, I'd say that we are there. We have crossed that threshold into it is now violating in my opinion more rights than we're doing any good.

37:27And Blackstone and Ben Franklin, they both use different numbers. They basically had the same theory. They would rather guilty people walk free than to have innocent people being locked up by their government. And that is what I tell folks when they talk about cell phones and other things we do, Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, whatever, cannot come down to my house, knock on my door in the middle of the night, come in with a warrant and put me in handcuffs. Only the government can do that. So that's how that argument to me is a little bit lopsided and not quite the way it should be. So we get into this a little bit further and the reason, again, you might say, well, I can force them in all this, but says this act of role beyond the borders is part of a quiet transformation of the parent agency of US Custom and Border Protection into something more akin to a domestic intelligence operation. Under the Trump administration's heightened immigration

38:31enforcement efforts, which I agree with enforcing immigration rules and getting more and more illegal out of our country, I'm cool with that. How we do it is important to me because I don't think we should just pull out every stop and say, let's just get rid of all of them because I don't know how we can even do that without violating our rights. So it's a tricky thing. But under the Trump administration's heightened immigration enforcement efforts, Customs and Border Patrol is now poised to get more than $2.7 billion to build out border surveillance systems such as the license plate reader program by layering and artificial intelligence and other emerging technologies. One of the other emergency technologies is called signal trace. If you haven't heard of signal trace, it is now being tested and it will be rolled out once it's found to be effective and they like it. And what it does, not all the ins and outs of it, but it is a signal gathering technology.

39:39So let's say you have it paired up with an automatic license plate reader on a highway. You drive by it, the camera captures the license plate of your vehicle, it captures your vehicle, it records the color, the make, the model, it records bumper stickers, dents, roof racks, do you have a tow package, all sorts of different things that records to use what flock calls or to build what flock calls a vehicle fingerprint technology. So they will be able to know, even if it doesn't have a license plate, they'll be able to narrow down what vehicle it might wind up being because of the rest of the technology and information they put in their database. So what signal trace does, it comes along and as you drive by, now they have your license plate in your car, now they will also be able to get an electronic signature of your car. That's right, they'll be able to pull electronic signals that are coming from your car, such as Bluetooth, such as receiving

40:43various radio or satellite transmissions from, from Sirus FM radio or what have you. They'll also be able to get the Bluetooth of your phone. They'll be able to get the electronic trace of your phone, the electronic pattern of your phone that'll all be pulled as you go by and it will then be analyzed by artificial intelligence and other computer programs and software's and get put into a database and now we have just another piece of a puzzle that we can put together on you as an individual. And with automatic license plate readers, they also now have something that they they put out now in city parks and whatnot along trails. We've seen these, the cameras that are around the highways are called Falcons, the ones that are in the cities on in parks and whatnot are called condors. There are a pan tilt zoom camera. They as you're walking down the

41:50sidewalk and you can find this on YouTube, the guy hacked someone hacked it on members name, you can find it, you'll look for it, because you're walking down the sidewalk, it'll pick up your voice, it'll then turn to you, it'll take a picture of your face, it'll use artificial intelligence see if they have you on facial recognition ID. Now they start recording whatever it is, you, your spouse, your friend, what have you might be talking about and they will now start picking up that speech pattern and they are going to be concerned about what you're saying, but I believe right now in its infancy, they're more concerned about the fact that you're just saying something. Now they will be able to put a voice pattern with a facial ID, now they have your face, your voice patterns, and now they don't even have to see your face, all they have to do is hear you, and as you drive by the plate readers, they'll now have what your vehicle looks like, what the

42:51license plate is, they'll be able to put your address together, then they will have your facial recognition ID, then they will have your voice print. What do you think is next? We come back after this break, we're going to wrap up this last 15 minutes or so with a little bit more from this story from the Associated Press on automatic license plate readers. You are listening to Ike Schelton, yes, toasting for Tamara Scott, I appreciate the time and we will be right back after these messages. A storm comes through, roads blocked, power out, every pharmacy in the county dark, what you own is what you have. 200 supplies in one bag, bleed stop bandages and a turnipet, trauma dressings and abdominal pads and sterile gauze and elastic bandages, shears and hemostats and scalpel and sutures, a cervical collar, a splint, airways, a CPR mask,

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44:59privacy I guarantee you of that. So, we're going to get into this a little bit more, we've talked about the fact that they're building this surveillance network across the country using automatic license plate readers, signal trace, facial recognition ID, voice pattern ID, and now signal trace where they're grabbing these electronic signals, but don't worry about it, don't worry about it, here's what the Border Patrol has to say, Border Patrol's parent agency US Customs and Border Protection said they use license plate readers to help identify threats and disrupt criminal networks and are governed by a stringent multi-layered policy framework as well as federal law and constitutional protections to ensure the technology is applied responsibly and for clearly defined security purposes. Well, that doesn't sound great, I feel a whole lot better about it, let's forget about license plate readers and let's just go ahead and let the government surveil us. Now, yeah, I don't think so either, because here's another

46:05interesting document that was put out in August of 2024, now I say, Ike, that's a little over a year, older than what this thing is, but does the government really move that fast? I really kind of wonder when this individual is Border Patrol agency gives the reporters this comment, I'm wondering what federal law they're talking about because this document I happen to have is called Congressional Research Service, Law Enforcement and Technology, use of automatic license plate readers, it has dated August 19 of 2024 and right in here, it specifically states law enforcement agencies may use automatic license plate readers for a variety of proactive, is that just to be looking for people, predictive, that's in that document, we have proactive here and reactive policing purposes, including gathering intelligence and evidence, helping identify potential suspects and facilitating

47:13crime scene analysis. There does not appear to be publicly available data on the frequency and extent to which APA LPR technology is used for various purpose areas, we've got an idea of how many times they've been misused and there are no data on its use at various phases of the criminal justice system from generating investigative leads, investigative leads, and helping establish probable cause for an arrest or indictment to serving as evidence and courtrooms, that's fascinating. As my understanding you had to have probable cause to surveil someone to begin with, so do we have probable cause to use the surveillance cameras to automatic license plate readers so that we can then get probable cause for indictments later or does the probable cause come after you found somebody which you think's doing something wrong on these cameras? I'm a little

48:17confused because according to this report, no specific federal legislative framework exists that governs federal law enforcement use of ALPRs. It does go on here to say that the Department of Justice does provide guidance for federal law enforcement agencies regarding the use of race, ethnicity, gender, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, or gender identity, which specifies what type of information may or not be used in law enforcement and intelligence activities, even when law enforcement activities involve automated systems or in artificial intelligence. So it sounds to me like they are concerned about discrimination based on race, ethnicity, gender, and all this other stuff, but they don't say anything about the Fourth Amendment and whether you

49:21might be violating that Fourth Amendment and our protections against unreasonable search and seizure. So they will like, you know what? These guys are coming across the border with these drugs in their cars, what we think. Do they have a right to that protection? Well of course they do. You're in America. While you're here, those laws apply to you, so you have to go through them. So APL are agencies use automatic license plate readers for a variety of purposes including gathering intelligence and evidence without a warrant, helping identify or apprehend potential suspects and a range of criminal investigations. Potential suspects? Folks, I think that these are just going a little bit too far. I really do. Automatic license, this is again from this is a congressional research service. Automatic license plate reader systems catalog and store information,

50:27particular license plate number, GPS data and day and time. This data retention can help law enforcement track where vehicles have been over time. It says that this evolving technology now allows automatic license plate reader software to be used on existing security camera systems including police vehicle dashboard cams. So maybe we're even getting away far away from the fact that you don't even have to have a special camera. You just put these in your regular cameras that are already on your law enforcement vehicles and they use it just through that and gather your information and store it. So this is how LPRs may be used by law enforcement agencies. It says they may also be used to provide additional context to suspicious or unexplained situations. And I find it fascinating when I watch these first amendment auditors and law enforcement will come

51:31along and detain these people and they ask for what crime did I commit and they say well you're a suspicious person and they'll say well what crime is suspicion and of course there isn't a crime there and they're going to detain you just because you look suspicious or they just don't want you there. Another thing's going on it's in this article that they brought up and unfortunately this is an awful lot of how law enforcement works. They'll play you over for just about anything that they can play you over with. Start asking you a bunch of questions and then they'll be able to work through there investigatively. So folks I think we need to wrap things up we're about done here for my time on a tomorrow's Scott show. Tomorrow thank you so much for having me I truly appreciate it. It was great to be able to get here and talk about these some more to expand on what we talked a little bit about when you when you had me on and and have me lay out our story. So ladies and gentlemen watching this I hope that you will take a little bit of interest in your community that you will find these cameras a little more repugnant and get together with your

52:39lawmakers and see if you can't do something to help dismantle the law enforcement industrial complex and their surveillance state that is popping up all across America. Again folks thank you so very much for having me I appreciate it and I hope to see you again my name is Ike Skelton. I hope you have a fantastic rest of your day. What a million!