How ideology is reshaping Americas schools and churches

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It's time for The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.

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I am Booker Scott and we are now going to be joined by one of the writers and directors of that very film beneath sheep's clothing.

Her name is Julie Beeling. Julie, welcome to the program.

Thanks so much for having me.

You are welcome and where does the motivation come from?

First of all, to do this.

Are you like the rest of us where you just fear of what is happening here in America over the last?

Well, how long? I know in your documentary you say maybe back to a hundred years of the last century.

Yeah, well, I mean, for me it goes further back.

I actually wrote the book beneath sheep's clothing that the documentary is based on.

And then my book is based on largely my master's thesis from graduate school.

And I went to graduate school to study Russian language and literature,

Russian and Eastern European studies after I lived in Russia as a missionary for a year and a half.

And so it goes back to the late 90s when I was living in Russia.

Yeah, most of your life then has been about this subject.

And I think so many of us here in America are starting to wake up and use discernment finally.

I was given a book last week and the name of that book actually I'll grab it and tell you is none dare call it conspiracy.

And it was written in 1971 and I started reading that book.

I actually read the first page of it on the program last week.

And it seems like the same issues that we're dealing with today.

They were dealing with back then.

And one thing I think about quite a bit is how so much of my life I'm 58 years old.

So much of America's foreign policy was to stop communism.

And here we are in 2024 and it doesn't look like anyone is giving an effort to stop the communism that's right here in our country.

Yeah, it's really disturbing, but you know, it's gotten so blatant.

I mean, when I wrote most of my book initially beneath sheep's clothing, I wrote it between 2009 and 2011.

And it was very, very fringe back then to consider the possibility that America was at risk of falling to communism.

But because things have gotten so blatant with the woke Marxist revolution that's ongoing and with 2020 and everything.

People are waking up and we do have a chance to wake up a lot more people.

We've got to do it quickly though to prevent, you know, the full scale communism from coming here.

But that's my goal is to prevent, prevent that from happening.

Well, if you go back 15 years ago, when you wrote the book, what was your reception like from other people with this book at that point 15 years ago?

Because not near as many people were awake then as they are now.

Yeah, I didn't publish it till 2022.

I wrote most of it back then, but it wasn't complete.

And I just set it aside and it was just on a hard drive.

No one saw it except for like two people.

Well, in this movie, you have some familiar names that are in it.

You have Trevor Loudon who happens to be here on America out loud talk radio.

He has a program here on the weekends. Please check that out if you would at America out loud dot news.

You have James Lindsay, the both of those names I think most people would know and pastor Rob McCoy.

What do you see is going on in America right now as someone who has studied this for a long time.

Take us back to your studies in what communism is.

First of all, I guess in the Soviet Union and then bring it here to America.

Yeah, so I mean, I was I was living in Russia just a few years after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

And I was asking people every day as a missionary asking people if they believed in God.

And it was shocking to me that in a year and a half of talk.

I don't know maybe a thousand people I talked to about God about if they believed in God and only one person said they were an atheist.

One, and this was after 70 years of forcible atheism with communism in the Soviet Union.

And I met some people who their families had they had very clearly been bleeders all throughout that period and they had just the deepest faith I'd ever seen.

And so when I was in graduate school with Russian and European studies, I decided to write my master's thesis.

I was really curious about underground Christian movements in the Soviet Union.

And I researched their survival tactics and the tactics of the Soviet state to try to dismantle Christianity.

And there were three main tactics that emerged, particularly I looked at from post-World War II up until Paris Strika.

And then in 2008, so I actually defended my thesis and finished it in 2004.

In 2008, I started seeing the same tactics, the same anti-religious tactics that the Soviets employed happening in America.

And then I looked closer and they were all here. There's three major tactics, some for over a hundred years at that point.

Can you share with everybody what those tactics are and what you saw in 2008, 2009?

Sure. So what raised an alarm bell for me, in 2008, there was an unpopular French Christian group that received a militarized raid with tanks and snipers, even though they were they were not a threat to anyone.

They were not going to be, you know, engaging in violence.

And then they had all their kids forcibly removed without due process.

And this forcible removal of children without due process and putting the kids in state care, this was one of the tactics the Soviets used against their French groups.

And it raised that red flag for me and then I looked closer.

So one of the tactics that the Soviets used was heavy persecution of just the French groups.

In the early days of the Soviet Union, they persecuted all Christians equally.

But they actually discovered that backfired. It read a lot of underground activity.

And so after World War II, they regrouped and they stopped persecuting all Christians and they kept their heavy persecution tactics just for the cults they called them.

And this was the underground Baptists, sevens day Adventists, Pentecostals and Jehovah's Witnesses that were in the Soviet Union.

Some of the earth they had a lower social status than rapists or murderers.

And so the government could come and take their kids and no one cared.

They could be sent to the gulag for ridiculous made up infractions and no one cared.

They could have their homes raided in the night and no one cared.

But because the mainstream Christians, even though you weren't supposed to be Christian in the Soviet Union, there still were the mainstream Christians belonged to registered churches that were infiltrated with KGB agents posing as clergy.

This was one of the tactics that they started after World War II.

They infiltrated the churches with KGB agents. They would rise up in the ranks and they would they would control the churches from within.

And that was a very effective tactic. The other tactic is one that they did all throughout the whole Soviet period, which we have here in America too.

Yeah, it's anti religious propaganda and pro socialist propaganda through the education, the media, the arts and broadly throughout all aspects of society.

So there are a couple of tactics and you know, when you look at communism, when you look at Karl Marx in particular and you probably know this a whole lot better than I do, he wants to wipe out or he wanted to wipe out Christianity.

And that is the goal of communism, socialism, and we're starting to see that here in America.

And we see one side of this, as I see this election, to me it's very clear you're voting for communism and socialism or you're voting for freedom and liberty.

And one of those freedoms is, you know, being able to worship the God that you want to worship the way that you want to worship them.

Talk a little bit about Karl Marx and wanting to do away with Christianity.

Yeah, yeah, that is the goal. And so well, Karl Marx, the way that I define Marxism for people is it's the playbook to prepare a society to fall to communism.

And Marxism employs this oppressed versus oppressor construct where you locate a group of people who are oppressed or who can be considered oppressed or made to feel oppressed, you harp on grievance, you stoke them up to anger to tear down their oppressor class.

And, you know, in Russia, that was the proletariat versus the bourgeoisie, the proletariat being the workers and the peasants and the bourgeoisie being the upper class and maybe upper middle class.

And so it was class warfare, but that class warfare did not work in America or the West because it's just a large middle class, large prosperous middle class that we've had.

And so they had to locate other groups that were oppressed and look, oppression is actually real. There are people who have been oppressed throughout history.

Absolutely.

And in fact, in Russia, the peasants had been very highly oppressed for centuries.

So, but see, this is what this is what people have to understand. Communism marries a truth to a lie.

There is truth that there are oppressed groups and there are harms that have been done.

But the lie that Marxism employs is, oh, but we have the answer for that and we're going to help.

But what ends up happening with communism being implemented is that everyone then becomes oppressed except for the tiny elite at the top.

Everyone becomes enslaved. Everyone becomes subject to famine and purges, execution, imprisonment, enslavement, impoverishment.

So, it's not a good solution for, they use, they use, and what they're doing here in America is they're weaponizing the empathy of Americans because most Americans do not like the idea of people being oppressed in our country.

Right.

And we don't like it at all.

And so they are weaponizing our empathy to get us to fall to communism. It's a trick.

It's a trick that's worked in countless other places around the world with very similar results. I already listed those results.

So, what we need to do is help and uplift people who are underprivileged but not through the Marxist and communist frameworks.

And when you look at what they do here in America or what has been attempted to do, and I think you would probably agree with me. It's been pretty successful when you look at intersectionality and what they try to do with oppression.

So, look at LGBTQIA++ and I think now the S has been added so that you can pretend to be any of those things.

But a lesbian has nothing to do with a gay guy, you know, one likes of a giant of the other one likes a penis.

But when you throw them all together in this box, which is something I talk about quite a bit on this program, then you can say that they are oppressed, even though they really don't have anything to do with one another individually.

Which America is built on individual rights and freedoms and liberties. And that's what you're speaking about, isn't it?

Absolutely. So, we have the critical race theory where people of color are the oppressed, queer theory where it's queer and gender theory where it's gay people are oppressed and heteronormativity is the oppressor class.

Where trans people are the oppressed and cis normativity, whereas where males or males and females are females, that's now oppressive and has to be torn down.

But the problem is, look, a lot of us, we see this and it's ridiculous. But what's happening, this, our schools are infected with this, the curricula, the people who create the curricula, the people who are training and have been training our teachers.

This is deeply embedded. And so our children at increasingly younger ages are being raised up with these ideas.

And they're doing it through the social and emotional learning curricula in the schools through ethnic studies curricula.

And most of the people who are implementing communism in America do not understand that's what they're doing.

They have no idea that's what they're doing.

Julie, you mentioned something a couple of minutes ago that I find interesting. You use the word empathy and we see these people that do so many things because of virtue signaling and you just said it right there.

They don't see themselves doing something bad. They think they're contributing to the good, don't they?

Absolutely. And that's, that's how it was in the Soviet period as well during the Bolshevik Revolution.

People were incited. So communism does not have any limiting principles.

As long as you're doing it in the name of helping the oppressed, you're allowed to murder, you're allowed to plunder, steal, commit acts of terrorism.

And so we see that same, same thing infecting people today where it's okay for them to do anything as long as they're doing it in the name of helping the oppressed.

And they're radicalizing vulnerable young people. They've been brainwashed. It's very, very sad.

And we saw this a little bit with COVID if we can pull back a little bit and look back at COVID where we saw people on the left that wanted to put people on the right into concentration camps.

Howard Stern was one of those that said, let's move all the unvaccinated people to the state of Mississippi.

And some people even wanted unvaccinated people to be killed, which is bizarre.

But I think that's a pretty good demonstration of how it works. Would you agree with that?

Absolutely. And in our film, in Beneath Sheeps clothing, James Lindsay explains what he calls hate craft.

And that is when the media and like celebrities collude together to craft hatred towards particular groups of people and we absolutely saw that towards the unvaccinated.

We've seen that towards MAGA. We for sure seen that towards Donald Trump individually as well.

And it's worked remarkably well.

And when you see a politician like Hakeem Jeffries who can't stand in front of a microphone without saying MAGA extremists.

And then you see someone take a gun and go to the rooftop in Butler, Pennsylvania and try to kill Donald Trump.

And then beyond that, you see everybody on social media that was saying he should have hit him.

You know, it's a shame he missed. And that's where we are in this country.

And really and truly when people like me and you see this as communism and so many people think we're quacks.

But that's how this all works, isn't it?

Yeah. And look, I hope people will watch Beneath Sheeps clothing because you can't watch it and not come away.

One of my biggest goals with this was to really illustrate in a very guttural way what communism is, what it does to people, the human toll of communism.

Not some ideological definition of what Karl Marx how Karl Marx defined it, but what in real actuality, what it is, what it does.

And you can't watch this film and not come away with just look the same way that all of us learned about the Holocaust in school.

And we have a disgust. We have a disgust with the gas chambers and with what Hitler did.

And we were not taught that most of us, especially younger generations, not taught that in school.

I didn't even know what the gulag was until I was living in Russia and had met people who had survived the gulag.

Yeah. And I was a college graduate.

Yeah. And you know, when you were just talking about that, I was thinking of the younger generation.

And so many of them don't even believe the Holocaust existed.

And that is scary.

Yeah, it is a bizarre story.

But it's true. It's the way America is now with our youth and how we are not teaching them important things like history, world history,

American history, and even civics and how our government is supposed to work.

And maybe that's part of what we have been seeing with living communism into America.

I want to pick that conversation up right there when we come back here in just a minute.

We're going to continue the conversation here with Julie Beeling.

She is the writer of beneath sheep's clothing and also put out that documentary.

That documentary is available right now.

And before we are done with Julie, I'll make sure that you know how to go and get that documentary so you can watch it for yourself.

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And we're back here on The Truth Be Told on America Out Loud Talk Radio.

We're in the middle of a conversation with Julie Beeling, the writer of beneath sheep's clothing and also the documentary that came out in 2024.

Starring in that documentary is James Lindsay, you probably know him pretty well, especially if you're on social media, you can't miss him.

Trevor Loudon, who happens to be here and a host on AmericaOut Loud.News, also pastor Rob McCoy is on there.

Julie, we were talking there going into the break about how our schools have kind of failed our children in teaching American history and civics and even world history.

That's also a part of all of this, isn't it?

It is, and actually the schools are operating exactly as intended by the powers that beat.

The goal is to have poorly educated people who are trained up in a new ideology and neo-Marxist ideology and trained to become activists for that ideology, and it's working perfectly for them.

So with the social and emotional learning and look, almost every school in the country uses social and emotional learning and it looks very, it's the ultimate wolf and sheep's clothing.

It looks very innocuous. There's lots of nice things about it teaching kids to have empathy, teaching them to different skill sets for dealing with challenges, but it's also teaching them in a new ideological framework of diversity, equity and inclusion as their new foundational ideology and DEI.

That is neo-Marxism and it is also is causing them to delete their Judeo-Christian ethics and Americanism individual rights in favor of collectivism and DEI.

Yeah, and we're getting into the globalism with all of this and the world economic forum.

These are scary times in America and if we were to lose our country, what does American socialism look like to you? What do you think that is?

Well, I mean, a lot of it depends on if people wake up. If we do nothing, if we just sit back, then it will probably look a lot like China, communist China, where you know, it's not, we're not going to go back to a command economy like what the Soviets had because that failed.

Yeah, but like a fascist economic system and with very heavy social controls and if people don't comply, well, you know, hello, look at what happened in code with COVID during China, where people were being forcibly tested daily, the people were sent off to, you know, isolation, quarantine camps.

They were being welded into their houses and their apartments. They were they were welding doors so they couldn't get out. And I guess a lot of people in China don't have a problem with the way they are, but I know there are millions of people in China that would love to have freedom and liberty.

Do you think there are Americans? Well, I think this may be even a rhetorical question by the time I get it out of my mouth. Do you think there are Americans that believe that the way China is would be a good way for America to believe?

That's a very good question. I, I haven't asked anyone that specifically.

That's a very good question. I mean, people have this pie in the sky view of what communism is. Oh, communism's never been done. Yeah, but every society that's tried to implement it has ended with the blood bath and the hundred million plus dead bodies.

Yeah, yeah, but you know, it's just scary to me where we are. And you know, for me, you've been looking at this for 15 plus years. And it's interesting that you came to this place in your life from a mission trip in Russia. And you really started to see the oppression of Christians and believers. And that's where your journey started with this.

Which I have to believe that God is really using you to try to get this message out because I believe that America is the beacon of the world. We are still the bright light. And I believe she's worth saving. And I believe that we can. It can be done. I also say this. I don't know that we're ever going back to where it was.

That maybe it's time to start reimagining where we are going to go. If you could reimagine where we are going. What does it look like? What does it look like now?

Oh, that's a very good question. I mean, I'm not the best person to do is probably. But I mean, we do. We do need a society that is kind. And look, I will admit that look, I think people on the left are right that there are the third world countries have gotten the short end of the stick.

Where they have people working for slave wage laborers, making the goods for the west to consume. Look, we need to reform a lot of things. There's a lot of problems in the world. But communism is not the answer. Socialism is not the answer.

We need people to choose of their own free will that they want to help uplift people that are underprivileged.

Absolutely.

That's really at the heart of what we need.

Have you ever looked into effective altruism much Julie?

I'm not familiar with that term.

Okay. Well, I'm not going to get into it with you. I want you to tell everybody where they can find this documentary. If you would give websites and all of that so that people have an opportunity to go watch this work again.

The name of the documentary is beneath sheep's clothing. We're having a conversation with Julie Bailey.

Yeah, people can go to beneath sheep's clothing dot movie. And you can watch the trailer there. If people want to see it again, they can buy a ticket for the film.

We will have DVDs up for sale.

Well, imminently we have a few t-shirts and also there's a link to buy my book as well as don't if anyone wants to donate.

And it's beneath sheep's clothing dot movie.

And other than watching this movie for the people that are listening to this right now.

For the audience here of the truth be told, what do we need to do to bring people's attention to what is happening in America?

I know that I try to do it all the time and sometimes we run into a wall when we're having those conversations and people look at us like we're crazy.

You know, I've been a conspiracy theorist at least for five or six years. For me, it started all with Seth Rich and his murder.

And my family used to look at me like I was crazy. They would call me crazy. Now they call me to find out what's going to happen next.

So how does that conversation take place with people that really don't believe that America is going to communism?

Well, watch the film and once you buy it, it's yours $12.99.

You can watch it as many times as you want, invite people over to your home to watch it, share with people.

I really do feel and not just because I'm involved with this film, I do feel like it's one of the most powerful vehicles we have powerful tools to wake people up.

Because the visuals and it's very well produced, very well done.

And we need to protect our children, but people need to understand the need to protect their children before they'll protect their children from these agendas.

When you look at American history and you go back to the Korean War, which happened just about five years after World War II.

And then you go 20 years after that and you have Vietnam. Actually, I guess it was about 15 years.

I think Kennedy first started sending advisors to Vietnam in about 64 or 65.

But it escalated for the next 10 years. We were there in all of that and throw in the Bay of Pigs too, by the way, with JFK.

All of that was in the name of stopping communism. American lives have been given for the very purpose of stopping it.

To me, I just have a hard time wrapping my brain around the fact that it's here on our doorstep and nobody is doing anything, except some in our country are promoting it and wanting it to happen. It's bizarre.

Yeah, we got to understand the history. The film does a great job showing the history of how communism came to America and it's chilling.

And look, I'm sorry, our churches here in America began to be infiltrated with communism literally over 100 years ago.

That's one of the reasons why the churches are silent. It's very sad.

Can you talk about that process a little bit? How did our churches start becoming infiltrated with communism a century ago?

Well, you've got these robber barons with loads of money, Rockefeller. They bankrolled it. They funded Harry Ward was one of the, just one of many who was an avowed communist who went and became a clergyman.

We got a position teaching at the Union Theological Seminary. And a lot of these communists got positions teaching in the seminaries. And so they influenced the up and coming clergy.

And what they did is they dematologized the Bible. They retooled Christianity to not be this individual relationship with Jesus and a, you know, salvation from sin, but instead to be social justice, to be about social justice.

Because Christianity Christianity lends itself perfectly to that because we are as Christians supposed to help the underprivileged.

So through the National Council of churches and organization called the National Council of churches, which is still in existence.

Those churches, those denominations that belong to that group, which is about half of America's Christian churches, they by the mid 20th century were very heavily subverted from the top down with communism.

And it pushed their adherence further left. And those churches have actually had major drop offs in membership since that time, the churches that go left and go woke.

People tend to walk away from those churches. But even in more recent years, people have seen Trevor Loudens documentary and enemies within the church, the evangelical churches have been infiltrated.

There's no major Christian denomination that is not infiltrated. And you can see the fruits of it. And there's, you know, we have actually another website, people's network dot us, we were, we're putting together tools to help people know what they can do to push the Marxist agenda is out of their schools, out of their kids schools, out of their churches.

We're working on all that right now as well.

Well, Julie, you have addressed our children in schools. We've addressed the churches. One place we have not addressed is how communism has affected academia, the higher institutions of learning.

They have been there. And I think it's pretty obvious for most of us that that has happened for a long time. It's been 50 plus years, hasn't it?

Oh, it's been more than that. Yeah, that happened before, you know, that would that had that was a prerequisite before the K through 12 schools could be adequately important. You had to teach the teachers, didn't you?

Yeah, so I mean, really it was going back to the early 20th century. That's when all of this really took hold with the universities.

And even in K through 12 with like John Dewey and various others who John Dewey, sorry, we think if he's this great hero for American education, he was he's he loved communism.

He loved the Soviet Union. He went to the Soviet Union and studied their education system, praised it excessively and brought some that back to America.

But within within the colleges and universities, yeah, that look, I went to college and I had a great experience. I was one of the few people who I had actually and a hater of communism as my major professor.

She was herself a former Soviet dissident who escaped the Soviet Union by the skin of her teeth. So that's who instructed me. I don't think we have much of that in our universities anymore.

And when I was in college, which was 40 years ago, now it's hard for me to believe. And one of the classes I had was a speech class. And I was pretty good at it in high school and I debated in high school.

And I did really well in this speech class. I had over a hundred average through seven speeches. The final speech was the biggest one. It was a 10 minute speech.

And I gave that speech on patriotism coming out of the Vietnam War and how our soldiers were treated. And that was my the first time I ever came in contact with somebody that was anti-American.

That is when I found out that that professor in that speech class didn't think the way that I thought. And because of that, even though I thought it was a pretty good speech, all of my other ones had been.

It certainly wasn't worth an F. But that's what I got on that. Just because of his ideology compared to mine. It didn't matter what I was saying, what the content was.

Because of the content, he gave me an F. And there was nothing I could do to get out of it. My grade went from an A down to, I think, a low C, maybe a D.

But that was 40 years ago. And that's an example of probably 90 or 95% or even more of our professors and teachers at the college level.

I've had Dr. Carol Swayne on this program before. And of course, she left Vanderbilt University, used to be at Princeton. But she was sort of forced out. And she said that, you know, what she saw was our young people coming to universities in about 12, 13 or 14.

I mean, those years, 2012 to 14 before she had retired that those kids came to these classes with more knowledge and information, at least in their opinion, than the professors that they were able to answer all of the questions, the philosophers of the world had been trying to answer for thousands of years that these kids already knew it. And she thought that was odd.

Yeah, well, I mean, according to James Lindsay, pretty much all of the colleges of education were subverted with Marxism by the early 1990s.

Yeah, I believe that. I think so too. But what at her point was that they were getting to the kids long before they got to college because my question to her was, I think all the colleges and universities, they're all Marxist. And they're all indoctrinating the kids. And she said, but in reality, for the last 15 years, our kids had been in college.

Our kids had been indoctrinated before they ever showed up on a campus. Right. Yeah. So I mean, I graduated from high school in 1993. So I got out before schools turned, you know, super Marxist. Yeah, I would love to go back to that era. And I'm afraid I'm afraid we're not going to be able to.

But I know this election is important for the direction of this country. And you know, I hope that you see it the way I do that. It's not personalities. And it's not Donald Trump or Kamala Harris or Kamala, however you want to say that. I don't want to be called a bigot, like the Vanderbilt professor called Nancy Mase last week on CNN.

So I want to make sure that I pronounce her name correctly. I think it's Kamala is what they expect. So I'll call her that. But it really is not about the personalities here. It's about a clear direction of the country. Unfortunately, every four years, we're told that. And but this time, this time, this election coming up here in about 65 days. I think it's 100% accurate. Don't you?

Yes, I mean, and I hope that there's going to be enough people voting for freedom that it overcomes whatever fraud they try to enact. But I would also I would also really encourage people to vote only for people at every level city, county, state, federal, only people who understand these agenda, the Marxist agendas to overtake America and are explicitly will oppose it.

But don't vote even if they're Republican. There's lots of rhinos. Look, I live in Utah. We are the land of rhinos here. And it's really bad. We have a terrible governor here who panders to the conservative is occasionally, but then he and acts leftist agendas.

And Mitt Romney rip Mitt Romney's out there in Utah.

Well, he stops in Utah occasionally. He's not he's not natively from Utah. So, but yeah, he's supposedly, yeah, he's a Utah and supposedly, but yeah, so, but we need to be voting in people at all levels who understand these agendas and will fight against them.

Well, Julie, thank you so much. You mentioned a couple of different things here. You mentioned where people can get your movie. And you also mentioned that other website.

I want you to tell people again about that. Her name is Julie Beeling. The name of her book is beneath sheep's clothing. And that's also the name of this documentary film that was released in 2024. Julie, give us those addresses again.

Yeah. So the film just came out in the in August of 2024. And then you can watch it at beneath sheep's clothing dot movie. You can also grab my book there. And at the end of the film, we direct people who want to be a part of the solution.

The film does a great job exposing the problems, but we don't have time to go into deep into the solutions. And so we developed people's network dot us for that.

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And welcome back here to the Truth Be Told on America Loud talk radio. I'm Booker Scott. I appreciate you being here tonight and every night.

I know one thing that is so important for you and for me it should be and I'm going to talk like I know what I'm talking about but I really don't.

And that's one's health. We really should take care of ourselves. We have to take the time to do that because there's really nothing more important.

And I know I speak a lot about politics and I talk about culture things. I talk about society. I don't talk about health a whole lot but it's something that should be really important to all of us.

And right now when I bring on to the program someone that knows a lot about health what it can do to you if you're not taking care of yourself.

And he has a way for you to take care of yourself in a better way. His name is Tim James. Tim, welcome to the program.

Hey, thanks Booker for having me on and just excited to share with the guest today and hopefully somebody will get something they resonate with go take action on it and improve their health.

Well, I hope so too. That would be the goal and I would say that you and I talked a couple of weeks, a couple of weeks ago.

And at that point I was just starting a journey on your product. And so I'm at the end of two weeks now which was a detox.

So let's talk about what the product is and more importantly, why, why am I doing this? What's the purpose?

Well, you know, I helped Jodi O'Malley the nurse, one of the nurses on nurses out loud and then also Kimberly over to encoaching them.

And when Malcolm had some gut issues, I was referred to him and I kind of coached him a little bit and we did use some products.

But there was other some other things with the products that I'd like to share today because it's not always just products, even though the products are going to speed up the process.

And yeah, they they solve problems. We can use them like, you know, if I need a pound of nail, I need a hammer.

Right. If I need to clean up the digestive track, I need something to do that.

Right. And then that led to you and stuff. And so then you've been on the products for a couple of weeks.

But, you know, we really I never really got some that private time with you like I like to have with my clients and just kind of gauge some other things.

But just to go up the middle with everybody listening, the reality is, and then I learned this.

13 years ago, I mean, I knew nothing about my health. Let me just set the stage here like I wasn't some super expert born into this.

I was I grew up on a farm. I was hunting in fishing. We raised a herfered cattle. We did grass hay. I'll falph a hay.

I was out side a lot. I really enjoyed being outside.

And then fast forward, you know, I'm a financial advisor. I'm 37 years old and 42 pounds overweight.

I got X amount cracking and bleeding over my body. I'm pooping blood in my stool. And I had to be lifelighted to get an emergency surgery to get an organ removed.

That led me to wanting to get healthier. But I still didn't know how to do it. I was trying reading books. This and that high fat low fat low carb.

I mean, I tried a bunch of stuff five meals a day. Never even tried juicing at one time.

But I didn't know I was juicing all this sugary stuff and it didn't really work. Tasted good.

Tell my friend got cancer. Then we went to a detox clinic. And I started learning about how the body worked and the organ systems.

And the first thing that I learned at a three and a half hour class called internal awareness was that the average person, especially here in America, western civilized world, we have

because of processed food and stress and the chemicals that are bombarding us 24 or seven, the average person has six to 12 pounds of toxic impacted fecal material in the colon. Nice.

And when I heard that, I was like, well, that doesn't sound good. And then they showed us how to get it out. And they taught us about colonics or colon hydrotherapy. Have you heard about that? I have not known.

Okay. So it's basically I had neither. So for those listening, if you didn't know what it was, I didn't. I was clueless. And I remember sitting in the room with my buddy Charles who had cancer, I was there to support him.

And the doctor proceeded to say, well, basically they inserted to rectally and water goes in gently and comes out for about an hour and cleans out your colon.

And I elbowed Charles and said, hey, look, dude, I came here to help you, but I ain't doing that deal.

You know, I just wasn't. I had friends. We're not that good of friends at that point.

Yeah. Well, I was like, dude, you can do that. You got cancer, but I don't. But my health was a mess. I was just right around the corner from a heart attack or cancer. It was just a matter of time, right?

Because I was on that slippery slope, but I was in denial. And I was a guy ego and the way I was raised red neck. And so, um, but that doctor spent three and a half hours convincing us.

And he showed us the insides of people. And there was a 24 year old woman in inside of her. She had a thrush, which is a yeast.

I've heard of it. Yeah. And I'm like, Hashimoto's like a thyroid issue and inside of her coin. Now my thought is if I go into a colon, I'm going to see brown stuff.

Yeah, I would think that just my common sense deal. I still think it was white and yellow all overgrown with yeast. And I'm thinking that doesn't look good.

No. So her colon was a mess. So was her health. Next guy, 64 year old male with colon cancer.

Go inside of his colon, black is midnight. And he also had parasites. There was white worms crawling around. Then everybody's skin was crawling in the room, including mine. And I'm like, oh my God, that's not good.

Again, horrible environment in the colon, horrible health.

Next person was a 45 year old female with breast cancer, black like tar, a little bit of brown stuff. And she had horrible colon.

And you know, horrible health. She had manifested some cancer. Then they went to a person who had cleaned themselves up down this program for a while.

Inside the colon was all pink and clean. You could see some brown stuff like you were supposed to. And that's when the light bulb went off. And I'm like, it's an inside game.

The next day I do one of the colon hydrotherapies where I did the water treatment. I dropped 11 pounds of impacted fecal material in one hour.

And that's where my I like reset my entire health. It was like a reboot. And so we started eating cleaner.

So it's really about I looked at like my body like a tractor, you know, like a car. It's got an engine. And the engine is my digestive track.

And if the engine's all gummed up, then I need to clean it out first. And then I put good nutrition into it. And then it'll be able to burn through that fuel better.

You know, absorb those nutrients better for safer humans. And then I'll have more energy and bubble.

That's exactly what happened. Let me let me tell everybody where to go to find your product here. Let's go to America out loud dot news.

And you can find it in the shop there. And there is a fantastic discount there that you will find anywhere else in America. And we'll talk about that here toward the end.

But you're looking at it. And I think it America out loud. It's Malcolm's gut punch or something like that.

It's Malcolm's healthy gut bundle. I call it the gut punch by Malcolm. Right. We have we have a bunch of other products and bundles and stuff. But that was the one for somebody out of the gate

really wants to clean up the gut. It was just it would work for him. And that's what I've been doing. That's that's been that's what I've been doing for the last two weeks.

I was going to explain the product that I've been using, which is green 85 juice formula gut detox tablet, which are three in the morning, three in the evening.

And then some silver nano, which is two tablespoons in the morning. It really and you said this when we met a couple of weeks ago, it takes minutes. It really does.

The juice. It is really has a good flavor. When you look at it, it kind of looks like grass got up to be perfectly honest.

That's what it is actually juice extract. It's more powerful than the grass cut up because the grass cut up is some fiber to feed your gut microbiome, these bacteria inside of us, they need food.

Those are called prebiotics. Yeah. And that's fiber from plants, cellulose and stuff.

But the taste was good. The taste is is good. And I think when we met a couple of weeks ago, you said that you can add some lemon to it or maybe some lime or something like that.

Yeah, we're putting an unsweetened cranberry juice or tart churros if you have an aversion to the taste, but the reality is is that your cells need nutrition.

Yeah, I didn't have that feeling. It did not, you know, I thought it tasted good. But now let's get to what this has done for me over the last couple of weeks.

I noticed today two weeks into this that I really wasn't hungry and I haven't eaten all day.

No, that was going to be my question for you. How was your appetite, man? It's gone at this point.

So that's my question to you is that what I was supposed to be expecting.

Yes, absolutely. So what will know is people that are on are especially with the greens and the gut detox. If that's in one of the monols, your grocery bills going to drop in half if you follow directions because what's happened is Americans are no different than a starving child in Africa, except for getting excess empty processed calories.

So your cells are just as nutrient deficient as that starving child in Africa, because it's not in the food. Remember 85% of the nutrients have been farmed out of the soil and sprayed out of the soil with chemicals and tilled.

The dirt is the digestive track for the plants, the trees, the crops, the dirt is the digestive track for those plants, just like our digestive track is inside of us in nature, the digestive track for plants is outside of them.

When you till the soil, you're destroying those microbiome that are in the soil, which many of them are the same one in our gut.

Imagine going into your gut three or four times a year and just grinding it all up. Well, we do that with toxins and this kind of stuff, and that's why people have ill health.

So 85% of the nutrients gone. So most of the people are walking around 85% nutrition on a cellular level and their cells are starving to death.

So they're sending signals to you, go eat, go eat, go eat, and you do, and you eat and you eat more of this deficient food, and you can never satisfy the cellular need for nutrition.

And so you're all going to be overweight yet malnourished. So what's happening is when we start cleaning up the digestive track with the gut detox formula, which by the way is like a 5,000 year ancient formula from an aerodynamic traditional medicine, that micro cleanses the digestive track.

You'll take three in the morning and three at night for the first 15 days and then after that, just three a day for maintenance. That will help you get rid of that six to 12 pounds of impacted gunk and funk and junk.

You got slodged in your colon, like most of us. And by the way, the record at the Institute, however, 600,000 people did this, one lady dropped 27 pounds in one hour doing that colon hydrotherapy thing.

Think about that. Think about 27 pounds coming out of you. So even if it was one pound, you want to get that crap out literally.

That's what I was going to say. It's the objective of this is health. And it's, you know, basically if there is weight loss, whatever it is, that's a side bar.

The important be a byproduct being healthy. So you're just reintroducing yourself back to mother nature. So we have to clean up the processed modern garbage out of the digestive track, the driving engine of your health.

Then we flood it with green 85 or neutral, highly nutrient sprouts, living foods. These, this replaces the 85% of nutrition. That's the nutrition component.

And then the third part is because of those gut bacterium have been so damaged, just like the ones that are getting killed in the soil from killing in the chemicals.

The chemicals are going inside of us and the stress is killing our gut microbiome, which is 70% of our immune system.

Think about that 70% of our immune system is inside of our gut. It's these bacterium that work with us like ants and aphids. It's a symbiotic relationship. And we've destroyed them, not intentionally, but through our modern toxic lifestyle and stress.

And so the nano silver now comes in. And it's the first one. I was a big colloidal silver guy. And now all colloidal solvers are obsolete. And this one, because this one does not affect the gram positive bacterium in the gut.

The other ones do. So when you drink this one, it knocks back the gram negative back into the corner, tell you die to do their thing. They're supposed to be there, but not in the amounts they are.

And now it clears the room so the good ones can start recolonizing. We do have some probiotics in the greens. And then we recommend people get outside, eat raw sauerkraut, raw kimchi,

eat first good yogurts that have not been pasteurized. And we do these types of things to recolonize the gut. And those things just are tooled kits that are available. You can do it under a few minutes a day to completely reboot your gut.

And that's one thing that I've been impressed with is the amount of time it takes me. I'm busy. I'm moving in the morning like everybody else. And I don't have time to take five or 10 minutes to do it. And it doesn't do it. It just doesn't take that long.

It's a couple of minutes at the most and probably even less than that. When we spoke a couple of weeks ago, you we were on this call. And I said, what are what are the objectives? What would you say the objectives are? And you said this is to restore health to a level that you didn't think was possible.

And that was one of the things. Do you remember the other thing that you said when I asked you that question?

The reality is is like, you know, I know you talk a lot about politics and stuff like that. And if people really want to be patriotic and stand up for not just America, but for the working class people all over this world, the most patriotic thing you can do is take really good care of yourself and be healthy and have a clear mind and have energy so that you can go fight for those freedoms.

It's the most important thing. When you're in pain, you don't want to do anything. Like I remember when I was a kid growing up, I get sick and even through my adulthood until I was 37, I'd be down for two or three weeks with the cold.

I didn't want to go to work. I didn't want to talk to anybody. I was hacking and coughing and, you know, I've been in pain before I broke bones. And, you know, when you're in pain, in fact, there is a there's a there's an old saying it says, a man with was a healthy man once a thousand things.

A sick man once won. Yeah, that's true. And you just want to get better. And as a financial advisor man back in the day, I'd see these people coming in, they had tons of money and poor health.

And I had to send this one couple of home like three times because the wife, her acid reflux was so bad, she couldn't even sleep laying down anymore. She had to sleep up. And she was getting girded. And it was just this acid reflux stuff. And you could just look on her face. She was in pain. They had all the money, but she had no happiness.

Yeah, one of the things that you told me the objective of this was, and I was impressed with this. It's really putting your body back the way God made it. And I don't know if you remember saying that, but I thought it was a perfect way to say it. This is Tim James. He is chemical free body dot com. And please tell everybody where they can find your product.

And tell them also about America out loud. News and the shop and the discount that is available there. Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, you guys can go to chemical free dot body dot com forward slash out loud. And it'll take you to a page where it showcases all of our stuff. And for all first time.

People that come and join and become new clients, you get 20% off. Just to give you an idea, our products are raw materials. They are 41 years of Dr. Tredway sourcing. I mean, I'm piggybacked off of this guy's love for pure purity and what he did. And and they're very expensive to manufacture the way we do things. It's not like you're buying a synthetic. It's, you know, under 110 degrees. So the enzymes are active. These are very well thought out formulas are based on 10,000 years of biological engineering system science.

So we know they're going to work for 98% of people up the middle. Black Friday, we might do, you know, 15% discount or something like that or 10. So 20% you can't get it anywhere else. It's a, you know, it's on the dot news thing. And it's a, it's a really, it's a good deal for for the American out loud listeners. We just want you to try it and see if it works for you too. And if something doesn't work. I mean, I just had a gal yesterday that one of the products muscle tests.

It didn't work first. So I gave her, we gave her something else and we, I kind of coached her a little bit. So our team, we're here to help you. We've even sent people to other companies. I, I take a few other products from other companies too. We know how to read labels. And and we have a double your money back guarantee and all of our products because, you know, Dr. Tredway just knows what he's doing. And I've been at this almost 10 years now. And we don't get returns. I'll just put it that way. I mean, it's rare that we get a return. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Tim, thank you so much for joining the program. Again, it is chemical free body.com.

And I should say it's a chemical free body forward slash out loud. You can also go to America out loud. News go inside the shop. Use that promo code to get the discount. He was just talking about Tim. Thank you so much for coming on the show, sharing your knowledge and your products.

My pleasure. Thanks for having me, Booker. And thank you for joining us here on this Thursday night. Don't go anywhere, though, because on least the political news hour. It starts in just a minute.

Also, after that, the national security hour and then at nine o'clock Eastern, six Pacific. It is after dark with Robin Andrew. I'm Booker Scott. And this has been the truth be told. Thank you so much for joining us.

And don't forget that you were told 2000 years ago that you are the salt of the earth and salt without flavor. It has no value. So whatever you do, keep being salty. Have a great night.

There is only one truth. You've been listening to The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott on America Out Loud.