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It is astonishing what can happen in a week.
It was sunrise Saturday in Tehran when the U.S. and Israel launched the first strikes
of a war that over the past seven days have spread throughout and now beyond the Middle
East.
Over the course of the first 24 hours of the operation, the two countries struck more
than a thousand targets.
The most significant said President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,
a strike that killed Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Kaminayi.
The hour of your freedom is at hand.
Stay sheltered.
Don't leave your home.
It's very dangerous outside.
Bombs will be dropping everywhere.
When we are finished, take over your government.
It will be yours to take.
Your suffering and your sacrifice will not be in vain.
We promised you the help and the help has arrived.
We even saw one of the explosions from our office window around downtown Tehran.
This engineer is one of many we talked to in Iran this week who asked in PR not to use
his name for fear of government retribution.
Suddenly we heard cheers from our neighbors and to be honest with you, the moment I hear
the cheers, I knew what had happened.
Iran's foreign ministry called the airstrikes a gross violation of its national sovereignty
and vowed to respond decisively.
They struck back, firing drones and missiles at U.S. bases in the United Arab Emirates,
Qatar, Bahrain, and Kuwait, where the strikes killed six American servicemembers.
On Monday, Iran continued attacks on targets as far afield as Cyprus and the Mediterranean,
and Iran backed Hezbollah and Lebanon launched its own attacks on Israel.
It's first and more than a year.
To Iranian drones damaged the U.S. Embassy in Saudi Arabia on Monday, and the day after
an Iranian drone targeted the U.S. Consulate in Dubai, hundreds more targeted U.S. troops
in Iraq and elsewhere.
And President Trump warned of more casualties.
Sadly, there will likely be more before it ends.
That's the way it is.
As the U.S. and its allies responded, confusion sometimes set in.
Kuwait mistakenly shot down three U.S. fighter jets.
Oil prices spiked on Monday when Iran closed the strait of hormones and threatened to fire
on ships.
The energy analyst John Kilduff of again capital.
So this is becoming a very much a real supply problem for this market in real time, like
a slow-motion traffic accident coming to fruition here.
The war strained relations between the United States and its Western allies.
These operations were conducted outside of international law, which we cannot condone.
That was France's president, Emmanuel Macron, other European countries like Germany struck
a more concilatory tone.
Spain has been very, very uncooperative and so has UK.
Trump blasted the two countries when they refused to let U.S. troops use military bases
in their countries to attack Iran.
Spain held firm.
British Prime Minister Keir Starmer eventually allowed use of its bases for defensive purposes.
Still, he made an impassioned speech in parliament saying Britain does not believe in regime change
from the skies.
We all remember the mistakes of Iraq.
And we have learned those lessons.
By Wednesday, the conflict spread even further.
A U.S. submarine sunk in Iranian warship in the Indian Ocean of Sri Lanka, carrying
about 180 people, Pentagon chief Pete Hexath.
It was sunk by a torpedo, quiet death.
The first sinking of an enemy ship by a torpedo since World War II.
The strike set off ripples of anxiety across South Asia.
Sashant saying a former Indian military officer worries the strike will test Chinese dominance
over the Indian Ocean.
If the U.S. Navy is doing this, it really sends a signal which is the Chinese are likely
to take more seriously.
On Thursday, more fronts opened.
An Iranian drone struck an airport in Azerbaijan, a U.S. ally, NATO intercepted a missile headed
for Turkey.
Secretary Hexath warned yesterday the war will only expand in the coming days.
The amount of power over Iran and over Tehran is about to surge dramatically.
President Trump says there will be no deal except in his words unconditional surrender.
Consider this.
For the past week, Israeli and U.S. bombs have devastated Iran.
The conflict has widened to include multiple countries in the Gulf.
How is the conflict reshaping the world order and impact in Trump's popularity here in
the United States?
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It didn't take long for the Iran War to spill over into the wider region.
I spoke to NPR's diplomatic correspondent, Michelle Kaliman, about how allies are viewing
the widening conflict.
Michelle, the Trump administration says its airstrikes are only just picking up steam.
They say this will degrade Iran's ability to threaten the region, but most countries
have faced Iranian drones and missile strikes.
Will they be drawn into this fight?
Well, that's really a big concern and why some are calling for de-escalation now.
That includes the UN's top humanitarian official Tom Fletcher.
He calls this a perilous moment.
He says about a billion dollars a day are being spent on this war.
And he's worried about what he calls an increasingly deadly alliance of technology and killing.
We're seeing a sustained attack against the systems and laws meant to restrain us from
our worst instincts and from reckless warfare.
So too many warning lights are flashing on the dashboard right now.
And he's also worried this could have ripple effects on markets and supply chains, which
would have a devastating impact on the world's poorest people.
What are world leaders in diplomats doing to keep us from escalating further?
Yeah, I mean, the UN's top, sorry, the European Union's top diplomat, Kaya Kallis, met
this week with counterparts from the Gulf States.
And she says they're talking about what they can do to promote stability.
And she says everyone's worried about what comes next inside Iran.
Take a listen.
Every time when we have seen these wars before in the Middle East, we have also seen
that it doesn't go that easy, that one day there's war and the next day there's democracy.
So clearly, the risks are there.
And she means the risks of civil war.
She's also worried about air defenses and the Gulf.
And it's interesting because Ukraine is actually offering Gulf States and help, because it
has experience in dealing with Iranian drone technology used by Russia.
And speaking of Russia, Michelle, the Washington Post is reporting that Russia has helped the
Iranians with intelligence for its targets, and that's something that NPR has now been
able to independently confirm.
What role has Russia been playing so far?
Well, it's called for the U.S., and it called the U.S. and Israeli actions of violation
of the international law.
China has too.
But neither of them are really offering overt military support to Iran.
They're both members of the BRICS group, which includes Iran.
And you know, India's in that too, but India's been pretty silent so far.
Even after the U.S. torpedoed that Iranian ship in the Indian Ocean, and that ship was
there, Wana, at the invitation of India, it had participated in a multi-nation naval
drill that was hosted by the Indian Navy.
President Trump has said that after Iran's surrender, his words, allies and partners
will bring Iran back from the brink, but from your point of view, will he have willing
partners to do that?
Well, we'll have to see.
I mean, I will point out that it was just a couple of weeks ago that Trump brought
together what he's calling this board of peace to rebuild Gaza and raise money for that.
Indonesia now says that it's paused.
It's talks with the board, though the State Department insists that Indonesia is still
a member.
It's really a key country, because it's one of the few countries willing to offer troops
for a stabilization force, so we'll have to see if it continues with that.
Michelle Kalaman at the State Department, thank you.
Thank you.
Now, we're Americans feeling about the war.
That's something I discussed with NPR senior political editor and correspondent, Domenico
Montanaro.
He joined me to talk through the results of a new NPR-PBS news, Marist Paul.
So what do we learn about how people feel about this war?
A majority are against the military action.
You know, 56% said that they oppose, and that's of the almost 1600 people that Marist
surveyed this week.
And like we've seen in other polls, Democrats and Independents are largely aligned, almost
nine in 10 Democrats, and 61% of Independents are against the war, but Republicans heavily
in support 84% say that they're in favor.
That's interesting because so much has been made of the various maggot influencers who
are not so supportive of this war.
Yeah, I mean, there's going to be those voices, but like on so many other highly controversial
things that President Trump has done, the overwhelming majority of Republicans are strongly
in his corner and are likely going to continue to be there for lots of reasons.
So a big divide by a political party, which like you said before is the story of the
last decade.
Were there any other notable divides here?
Yeah, younger people, those 18 to 29 years old, were the most likely of any age group
to be against the military action, almost two thirds say that.
There were also notable divides by education, gender and race.
For example, whites with degrees heavily oppose the action while whites without degrees,
a slight majority is in favor.
When it comes to men and women, men are far more likely to support it.
And on race, those who are black and Latino were more likely to be against the action
than whites were.
What about President Trump?
How are people viewing the way that he is handling this?
Yeah, he gets just a 36% approval rating when it comes to this war.
That mirrors Trump's overall approval rating on foreign policy from our last poll last
month.
It's also worse than when we asked about his handling of Iran after the killing of the
Kudzforz leader, Kassim Solamani back in January 2020, then about 42% approved.
Great, but still higher.
We also see, again, some of the same divides, Democrats and Independents heavily disapproving
while eight in 10 Republicans in Trump's corner.
Let's take a step back.
A big part of the justification for this war from Trump and others is that Iran is a huge
threat to the United States.
How much do Americans feel that way?
Yeah, a majority 55% sees Iran as only a minor threat or no threat at all.
44% do see it as a major threat, and that's four points lower actually than last summer.
Those who see Iran as a major threat are mostly Republicans, white evangelical Christians,
white women without college degrees, those who live in rural areas, and people who are
45 to 59 years old, those least likely to see it as a major threat, white women with
college degrees, people who live in the Northeast, white college graduates, and millennials.
We're seeing a real schism about just how heavily Americans feel the threat of Iran
looms over American society, and the Trump administration has really been shifting its
rationales for the threat that Iran poses, and or what the triggering event was to start
this war in the first place.
And Trump continues to face a skeptical American public on many of his policies while people
are continuing to say the economy is their top concern that Trump isn't focused enough
on it.
And today we saw losses in the jobs report, and there've been now five monthly jobs reports
I've shown losses in the past year when there had been four straight years of job increases
before that dating back to the pandemic.
Thank you so much.
You got it.
This episode was produced by Conrad Donovan, Atlanta Burnett, Alejandro Marquez-Hanza and
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