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7:08Stories that will inspire you no matter where you're from. I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you. Listen to La Brega, campeones on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How are you, warmer? You good? I'm glad you asked. That's a great jacket, yeah, by the way. Thank you, man. How I complimented you when I saw you today. Thank you. Yes, you liked this jacket. That's a great jacket. You thought it was Ralph Lauren. Because I remember when we were in Texas that time, we went to that store, you took me to in Austin. Yeah. And it had all that great gear, and you were explaining to me how Ralph Lauren does their own sort of line. What's that line called? Double RL, that's it. I mean, double RL is very cool. It's a, it's inspired by so many vintage pieces that no longer are in rotation. So it's like almost like vintage new. Yeah, you know, like you can put on some pair of pants knowing that somebody else's stuff was not in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like your, your, your speak easy is, is that style.

8:13Yeah, a little bit. It's a little like vintage new, but you know, the only thing that's like really, really vintage is this motorcycle, which somebody's stuff has definitely been on that seat. You know, make sure to look barn, you know, who let us have this motorcycle. Yeah, you know, as a, as a backdrop. But are you a motorcycle guy? Not really. I've been married a long time and my wife's not crazy about me being on a motorcycle and having kids. What about you, your motorcycle guy? Well, like every young Latino in the 90s, I wanted a ninja. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I wanted like, like a real colorful neon. Yeah, no, maybe that would be cool. Maybe red, black, you know, and I, you know, I just wanted to wear that outfit, you know? Yeah, what do you mean? Like the whole motorcycle jacket. Yeah, like the jacket, the leather pants. It's like speaking leather pants, not to bring back a social object, but, you know, Freddie has a like experience with leather pants.

9:14Yeah. So have I to be fair? It's going to say, I have a feeling you did too. I just got a mind. To my fortune, it was, it's never been historically recorded. So yeah, I think I'm going to have to talk to a man about that. But I have more embarrassing stuff in my career. This is definitely historically recorded and immortalized. Like, like, could you, could you give an example? Ah, man. Did you watch that 70s show? Do you have 200, half hours to talk about this? This brilliant comedic acting is what I saw. But you had the television once before. Yeah, a little bit. You had the TV before and there. It's embarrassing moments. What's the longest running show you're, you've done. The longest running, let's see, a bowl. The show was your son ran five seasons. Six feet under, ran five seasons. Five has been the magic number. All right. And how many episodes do you do in those? The cable, six feet under was, it started off as like 13 episodes.

10:16That was kind of like a tamper order at that time. Yeah, yeah, but bowl was like 22, 23 episodes. Which made it, it's right. You hit like that January point after the holidays. And you're just like, wow. So six feet under was nominated for tons of awards. It was, yeah, yeah. We were actually at a certain point, we're in the Guinness Book of World Records for the most Emmy nominations of all time. No way. Yeah, this was like 2001 or something like that. I don't know. Who had the record? Before us, I'm not sure. The lesser show. Who was the lesser show? I don't know, maybe Masha. I don't know, but Game of Thrones de-throamed us, I believe. But they had VFX and all the categories that you didn't compete in, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we held that record for a while, but they, I heard that they de-throamed us. So I don't know. Speaking of going through and shout out to Brian Cogman. Yeah, I'm Brian. Our boy Brian is a great executive producer and writer.

11:18Game of Thrones for Emmys as a writer for that show. Crazy. Just an amazing brilliant man and a good guy. So with that show, actors got nominated on that too? Yeah, yeah, I was nominated. Oh, yeah, that's what I was learning today. You're going to have to finish my sentence. Yeah, I was. Perfect set with the talk about award season because you had an experience. I only campaigned for a team choice award. I won it. Yeah. With the Emmys, I don't have much experience, but you have, which I'm excited to talk about because I know award season is about now. The Oscars is, you know, is a big deal in this town and also a lot is defined. You know, a lot is dictated by, you know, some of some of these academies, right? I mean, they're, yeah, I mean, when you, when you did your show six feet under, what was that like? You get a phone call like how do you,

12:19how do you first had you find out that you're nominated? You watched the, the nominated announcement of the nominations or you're just wake up the next morning. You get a call from the producer. How does that work? I got a, well, for me, person, I got a call at like five in the morning to tell me that I was nominated, which is insane. Where you sleep in the morning. You know, I was like half asleep, you know, we were all nervous. It was, it was like our second season, I believe. And then we, we sort of, I'm in a second season. Yeah, second, it was like first season going into like second season. And this was before social media, before any of that, you know? I mean, it was, it was like being shot out of a cannon, you know, all of a sudden you're, you're a part of the biggest show on the planet, you know, and you get nominated, but it's up, but it was such a humbling experience. And then you, you go through these different like lunches and you get to meet the other people who were nominated. You, you get to go to different parties. You get to, I mean, I, I describe,

13:20because I've also gone through an Oscar campaign. Oh, okay. You didn't even let me, you didn't even let me go there. No, no, no, no, what I was going to say is that what's similar is that it's very, it's what I would imagine is, is like a, like a political campaign, like if you're running for office, who are the people you kind of have to, you know, kind of be in community with during that campaign? The voters, the Academy voters. And so, you know, in 16 Under's case, it was the, in 16 Under's case, it was different because it was such a, it was such a phenomenon from like, from, from the joke. It was a very obvious choice for the, yeah, yeah. So there wasn't much campaigning beforehand. But, but I did a movie called Bobby. And for that, there was a lot of campaigning. And, and I describe it, I mean, I've never ran for office before, but from what I've seen in documentaries and on TV, it was very similar to that. You, you literally launch a campaign.

14:22And if you're running for office, right? The campaign is vote for me, right? I should be in this position in office, right? If you're doing it for an Oscar, it's the same thing. You're saying vote for me, you know, for best supporting actor, best actor, whatever it was. That's an interesting campaign, because I wonder what gets the, the vote? Is this lobby and actually, you know, you know, influential? Yeah. Is the proximity at the artist or the filmmaker? You know, a favorable moment for a voter. Like, I think that's the biggest question for me when you think about this campaigning. Like, what is effective, you know, in campaigning? In your opinion, you, you, you feel like meeting the voters, is it about them liking you? Or is it about them like just being exposed to your process and understanding that it was deeper than just a nomination that you didn't work for the part? I don't know, it's, I'm trying to figure out exactly what gets it done, what gets that vote?

15:23It's, it, in my opinion, I think it differs every time, right? Like, like I was saying, like, with six feet under, it was an obvious thing because it was such a phenomenon, right? And sometimes even for film, as it pertains to the academy, right? Sometimes there are particular films that are just such obvious choices, right? Because they've become phenomenons. And then there's, there's sort of the smaller movies, right? That have really good performances in it. And like, like, the film that I was in, Bobby, and that we were sort of vying for that position. And then sometimes I kind of feel like, you know, there are some pretty big name actors in some other films and they want those actors to show up, right? So, so, you know, they kind of try to make a place for those guys to be nominated. It's a, at the end, what I got out of it was that it was just this huge balancing act of all of it, you know, of popularity, of merit, of campaigning,

16:26which, by the way, costs so much money, man. Like, how do those little movies do it, right? Like, if you'd probably get a distributor on board, yeah, I mean, look, I think a distributor that gets one of those independent films that, you know, we're made by two million dollars and adopt investments and other nine million dollars in a campaign or five million dollars in a campaign to just ultimately get that second wave of awareness for the movie, because really, the way I look at nominations and I look at award shows is that for a lot of these movies that are breaking even, because they only had 400 screens or they have maybe just 600 screens across the United States. Right. They didn't make their money back. I mean, I feel like this is such a crazy gamble. You're trying to get nominated because you know that it'll put you on a world stage and people could find your movie and also eventually be distributed on a wider air because then the secondary window and third window of distribution happens after you get nominated. But that's a good question. You know, it's funny, you mentioned that.

17:26The Golden Gloves just happened, right? And like, I think his name is Joe Edgerton, the actor, right? And he was in a movie called Train Dreams and it was on Netflix. And I thought the movie was fantastic. It was such a beautiful film, but it was a small film as you were just saying, right? And it didn't seem like the budget was that high and it didn't seem like they had much of a budget for the PNA, for the publicity and advertisement. However, he got nominated for Golden Globe and he won the Golden Globe, right? So it's like, oh, okay, they really didn't put that much money behind the campaign, but nevertheless his performance got found within the plethora of other performances. But he didn't get nominated for an Oscar, right? He won the Golden Globe and didn't get nominated for the Oscar. And I'm always such an eccentric thing, right? Like if you win the Golden Globe, it doesn't necessarily means you're even gonna get nominated for the Oscars.

18:28In his case is a perfect example, you know? Did that have to do with maybe they didn't have the financing for the campaign? To, you know, you look in variety, right? For your consideration, you know, like that stuff calls money, man, you know? Or the billboards that you see in sunset Boulevard or, you know, all that stuff costs so much money. The same way it would, you know, for like someone running for office, right? You know, you see someone like a Kamala Harris or Joe Biden, whatever you're like, they have a hundred million dollar war chest for their... They spend up $1 billion on this campaign. It's the same thing, man, you know, to a smaller degree. Imagine never having to buy gas again. Sounds like a dream, except it's real. That's everyday life with an electric vehicle. No long lines at the pump, just plug in at home and go. EVs are as easy to charge as your phone and build for real life. Most Americans drive about 40 miles a day, and most EVs go 200 to 400 miles on a single charge.

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20:31when you switch to T-Mobile. Switch today online in store or on the app. You choose, do this, see this. Visit T-Mobile.com. Switch in 15 minutes per line. Qualifying plan required. Hey there, this is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life. The Stuff You Should Know Think Spring podcast playlist is available now. Whether spring is sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not, the Stuff You Should Know Think Spring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside, and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know Think Spring playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Before Bad Bunny was traveling the world and sharing Puerto Rico through his music, the podcast La Brega was telling you all about the Puerto Rican experience. We're proud Boric was, and what does that mean? And we are still in the fight. This season, we're telling stories about champions from a place worth fighting for,

21:32stories that will inspire you no matter where you're from. Come on, go, go, go, go, go. Wow. Listen to La Brega, Campaones, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come check this. iHeart and TikTok have come together to create something new. I love it. We're the world of TikTok meets your playlist. Three words that will change your life. iHeart TikTok Radio, the biggest hits across iHeart Radio. What's trending for you on TikTok? Tonya Sound that's better than this. iHeart TikTok Radio. Plus TikTok's most influential creators all in one place. Search for iHeart TikTok Radio, make it a preset, and stay connected all day. It brings me full circle to reflecting on some of our communities and some of our cultures, as you know, some of them have had the privilege of having people like you and others who hit that stage and actually brings quite a great deal of pride

22:34to see some of these images being considered at the same caliber as some of those that I conically will be known for these nominations and these wins. Do you feel, and I think this is a question I guess for both of us, do we feel that it has gotten better at a presentation? Now, and that's a question with also a secondary statement, which is there's tons of studies that says we're only 6% of the roles of entertainment period, right? That doesn't reflect on the majority of the consumers, the man, which happens to be a lot of Latino communities for the opening weekend, you know, for the same day of viewership and streaming subscription, also advertising buyers and things like that. So when you see the power of the spending power in the buying power of this community, and when you look at what gets made, it doesn't really reflect on that, but based on how long we've been doing this,

23:36roughly between 30 and 40 years, each one of us combined with almost 100 years of entertainment. But the idea is that the you feel that it has gotten better since when we started and then for, have you seen us on that stage, you know, of the award shows? As well, what do you feel? That's a really tricky question, you know? I feel like it fluctuates every year, right? You know, you brought up a really interesting point to say that our demographics, buying power is high, and it continually is high every single year. And so perhaps the award seasons should reflect that, as basically what you're kind of saying to a degree, right? And it doesn't, right? And so their lies, the dilemma, you know? Or even the quantity of opportunity, right?

24:38That will get us a proximity to be noticed on one of these, you know, world stages. Yeah, the quantity, right? Which is a whole other conversation about, you know, us getting projects out there and them being greenlit. Some of them being commercially viable enough to do well so that the power's at me go, hey, it made some money. Let me give you some money to do another one and then another one after that, you know? You know, you brought up an interesting point in one of our conversations before about it all being sort of an ecosystem, right? That perhaps needs to be fine-tuned maybe a little more and perfected a little more in order for that ecosystem to continue to work in. And let me follow that rabbit hole there because I think the ecosystem is an interesting conversation. We're yet to really be a part of that ecosystem. The ecosystem has now been balanced, right? I mean, they can, you can put odd bets in Vegas

25:42about whether the movie's gonna be number one or not. Right. Now, you can predict based on level of awareness a week before, whether the release is going to get to X amount of dollars, right? Like they can predict that number, but what they cannot figure out is how they can trust that it will do good merely by saying the ecosystem has a healthy amount of not only representation, but a real thorough look at how we consume content, how are we invited to the content? You know, I dared to say at Universal, that's a really great job with the Latino community. A lot of their movies, which are John Rae, whether it's Adventure, Horde, or Action, they speak a language and marketing that actually says, hey, this is a movie we're inviting you to this movie too. You know, most, I think most of you are- You're referring to like Fast and the Furious or Fast and the Furious. Jurassic Park, you know, like when you look at the numbers

26:42of Latinos that show up to those movies, you're like, whoa, is it a genre or is it the marketing? And when you think about it, you go to the neighborhoods that are prominent in the Latino culture. In Latino culture, you realize there's like, there's posters there, there's flyers. There's like, you know, Jurassic Park, you know, candy at the 7-Eleven, like, you know, they're really infiltrating pop culture for the individuals who really trust that genre. I don't know that most studios have really given a kind of scientific look at like, how do we balance our marketing strategies? And then, you know, and then they think that is really about just like putting a piece of casting in front of it, right? It's really about hitting the notes. It's not just the brown face and a beautiful character that takes you to an extraordinary circumstance. I think it's to me about, it's about, you know, what, you know, what notes,

27:45what boxes does it check in values, right? And spirit and trajectory and story, they're actually relatable to our specific experience. And I'm not saying like, it has to have salsa music and maracas, right? That's not how we relate to content, right? Right. But it is about uniting us all in the tones and in the boxes. Is it the genres, right? Like, people are blown away when they saw Jen Artega, you know, doing incredible with Wednesday. You're like, whoa, Wednesday and, you know, Luis Guzmán plays, you know, they're all good. They're a character like it's, a lot of this stuff is like really interestingly, you know, subliminally successful and they can't explain it. Why? Like, it's the same thing. It's like, we want to be going along with an extraordinary circumstance and we want to be able to be part of the character lineup that actually contributes to winning the day. And look, it gets very, very complicated,

28:46but as we bring a full circle to the awards in the award season, did you feel like you've seen an improvement on, you know, on Latinos and minorities as a whole, being invited to the award shows? Improvement is a really tricky word. I don't know if I would say improvement, I would say that it fluctuates. I would say that there's certain years where you do see representation that has earned their position in those categories and there's certain years that it doesn't, that sometimes there are projects out that you point to those projects and you go, well, why wasn't this person do you think it has something to do with the inconsistency of the quantity of opportunities for certain actors to be showcased? I mean, I think the quantity has something to do with it, right? Because some years, like, Pedro Pascal does three movies and then next year he's in only one.

29:49Right, right. Well, I think, you know, you talk about quantity, which is an interesting conversation, I feel like if we had more quantity than we would have more opportunities to be allowed to fail, right? I think sometimes you have to be allowed to fail in order to learn from that failure, you know? It's just like in any sort of business, right? Like the more you have, the more could be sacrificed in order for the others to do well. Everybody gets more strikes than we do. Yeah, yeah. And then so then when we do get that opportunity at bat, man, we have to hit a home run every single time. And sometimes that's not humanly possible to do, right? But that's what's required of us. And, you know, I think that's maybe a little unfair. Yeah. What do you think? Hum, I think you're right. I think that's it. I mean, I think that we have to continue to work on the all the different connecting tissues

30:54that make Latino entertainment. Yeah. And I'm only saying, and let me really, really deep down on this double down on this is that the Latino entertainment is mainstream entertainment. But I only say Latino because it finally comes from us for the world, right? Like we're creating and developing things and putting things out there. We've never been the entertainers or the artists that are just like, oh, I'm the brown character, right? Like we never think of ourselves as that. Specifically, the two people sitting in this chair, right? Right. What I can say is that I think that to your point, there hasn't been an opportunity to continue to cultivate the talent we already have because there's a lot of like that bottlenecking. And when somebody wants to make something, there's a usual suspect short list that is trusted with that stuff. And I don't think necessarily they, you know, they get it to the next level, right? So I think it's about investing in community.

31:55So by investing in the trust in the audience. And in order to do that is you got to put more, you know, you got to put more on that screen that test is, you know, what you've already tested for decades and decades of content and with other, you know, configurations. Yeah, you're right. There is a short list, you know? And that short list is always expected to hit a home run. And many, many times they do, but sometimes there's another list of people who may not always hit a home run, but maybe if they were given more opportunities that bad that they would, they would hit a home run. But you brought up an interesting point about Wednesday, you know, first of all, she was terrific, as she always is on that show. But what I really loved about what she was doing, what Louis was doing and just the whole construct of that show was that here was the show about this family, these people. And she just happened to be Latina, right? And like Louis Guzman just happened to be Latina.

32:57And I don't, I don't even think, I don't even know or think if that's mentioned at all during the series, whether that's important or not, right? Which is a whole other conversation, right? Why every time like we're on screen, it's always, you know, they feel that we have to sort of emphasize ethnicity, I just feel like they were just people. There were people who were playing these characters who did a great job at it. And they were seen as Americans, right? And I think that if we had more of that sort of business model on screen, I think that, I think that we would have more opportunities to be more commercially viable. Exactly. And to tell the stories that connect with the masses and general audiences, yeah, absolutely right. I think piggybacking off of what we just said, I think that's why it's so important with what you're doing, for example, with your company and the stuff that you're producing. Because I feel like the stuff that you're producing

33:59is very much on track with what we're talking about. I feel, I feel that you're not have been in this thing long enough to kind of understand how to really help, in the kitchen. And I think to be invited to the kitchen is to kind of start cooking up some of that solution, right? Yeah. But I think we're both been kind of part of that kind of early forefront to do that. If I were to ask myself the same question, is it getting better? Is it improving? I will tell you that I remember that we both always were the only Latino on the whole network sometimes, right? It's no longer the case, right? So when you look at a network like CBS, there's multiple Latinos in different shows, there's African-Americans, there's Asian communities represented, so there's like,

35:00it feels that there's more organic in a more fruitful kind of interpretation of that. That being said, it's not enough shows, there's not enough things. We're still like a very small percentage of the storytellers and lead characters and shows which I think has to still continue to improve and evolve. I will dare to say that I think the studio's trying to figure it out, I think they're smart enough to know they really have to get to the audiences and I think we're looking at a very interesting moment of shifting of paradigm. You know, look coming for a circle to like, most importantly, the marketing and how we show up for each other, we've seen more of us show up for each other's premieres and each other's as social media campaigns for each other's projects than before. You post something about a movie immediately and repost in it, right? Back in the day, we didn't have those tools to be able to show up for each other.

36:01We had to go to a red carpet and be like, I'm here supporting Freddie. Right. Now we can do that, but then also there's all the ways in which we can support another. And I think one another, and I think that we're seeing this very uplifting moment where a lot of Latinos I think are showing up for each other at least in the, you know, you got a thing, let's all tweet it. You know, we're getting behind it and, yeah, there's definitely that system in place now where that didn't exist before. You can look at what, you know, Bad Bunny just did in this, in the halftime, you know, at the Super Bowl a while ago. They, you know, they, you know, the Latino world was like, yes, we're all in this thing together. We're all waving our flags, but one together. Yeah. You know? And I think that's what we got to do in entertainment to kind of keep it pushing. Yeah, yeah. There was definitely that, although he is Puerto Rican and a lot, and a lot of the show focused on very specific intricacies that revolve around Puerto Rico.

37:01It felt very unifying, you know, and it was wonderful to see people of other ethnicities supporting him and supporting. And we have to translate that energy into all the different parts of the thing. Yeah. But, you know, but I, listen, this whole episode was about making sure that people knew you were nominated for the N.A. and that you were definitely a part of. That's what literally what this episode was about. Especially because you also did an Oscar campaign. So, I'm just a nice guy. I appreciate it. You're one of our great, Senator. Thank you, my brother. Thank you, man. But either way, everyone, thank you so much for joining us on our first episode of those amigos. Season, those. Season, those. And, you know, remember, tell a friend that we're here to be here. We're here, amigos, too. That's right. We're a third amigo. This is Freddie Rodriguez. I'm Wilmer Valderama. I'll see you next time.

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